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01:58 mircea_popescu and in other materia obscura, http://law.di.unimi.it/software.php#buging
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06:27 diana_coman ave1, I tried compiling eucrypt & components using your runtime: need support for Interfaces.C (used by keccak/oaep) and Ada.Unchecked_Conversion (used by Serpent)
06:29 diana_coman fwiw the footprint of eucrypt with default runtime is 215K (separate components: mpi 109K; bit_keccak 17K; keccak 42K; rsa 19K; serpent 20K - 31K (depending on level of optimisation chosen)
06:30 diana_coman I'm using gprbuild 2016 with gcc 4.9.4, both from adacore
06:41 diana_coman !!v 5741268585B87EBBBEA12E619EB421FC629C369A76F153F5CCB68EFE3348204E
06:41 deedbot diana_coman rated ave1 2 << useful and clearly reported work on ada & ada+c; writes at ave1.org
06:52 diana_coman trinque, what do I need to do to add ave1's www to deedbot's list? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784953 ; I really would have liked to have seen http://ave1.org/2018/sending-arrays-of-octets-between-c-and-ada/ when it was published, last week; or did I miss it in the logs somehow?
06:52 a111 Logged on 2018-02-19 13:25 diana_coman: also: is ave1's blog in the rss list? I find it quite useful
06:54 ave1 diana_coman, I have a version that has both files, but not published yet. It is not hard to make, copy from the runtime dir the files: i-c.ads, i-c.adb (for Interfaces.C) and a-unccon.ads. Then edit i-c.ads and i-c.adb
06:54 ave1 The function versions of To_Ada and To_C need to be removed + exceptions raised
06:55 ave1 Then, smg_serpent self_test procedure needs to be function and raised removed
06:59 ave1 Well, maybe not so easy, I will publish patch (but probably next week)
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07:50 ave1 After that, as it turns out, ada still produces some code which is not supported by the zfp lib. I fixed some of this, but this is very much a build - add some code - retry cycle and that will take some time.
07:51 ave1 For example the zfp lib is not really written (at this moment) for a C main program, so 'adafinal' is missing.
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08:24 diana_coman ave1, take your time on it; just publish when it's ready and I'll give it another go
08:24 diana_coman I am not using To_Ada or To_C so they can be removed, not an issue
08:26 diana_coman as to the serpent_self_test procedure - it can in principle even go away entirely as there is an equivalent test in the tests dir where tests should be anyway; the self_test is left mainly because it was in the original, but not crucial in any case
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09:40 mircea_popescu in other sad news, holy shit the http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-january-2018-statement/ was utterly broken (and nobody said anything!!!) hence the delay with this month's report. will be publishing a restated version of the jan one too.
09:43 trinque diana_coman: you ask. happy to add it. sec
09:54 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/03/public-bailout-of-bezo-bungle-continues-in-indiana/ << Qntra - Public Bailout Of Bezo Bungle Continues In Indiana
10:03 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl/ << ave1 - Building GNAT on MUSL
10:03 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/building-gnat-on-musl-now-with-a-signature/ << ave1 - Building GNAT on MUSL, now with a signature
10:03 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/on-ffa-chapter-1/ << ave1 - On FFA Chapter 1
10:03 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-and-pragma-inline_always-a-report/ << ave1 - GNAT and Pragma Inline_Always: A report
10:03 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/mp-wp-a-genesis/ << ave1 - MP-WP, a genesis
10:03 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/on-ffa-chapter-2/ << ave1 - On FFA Chapter 2
10:03 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/from-the-proverbial-peanut-gallery/ << ave1 - From the proverbial Peanut Gallery
10:04 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-and-zero-foot-print-runtimes/ << ave1 - GNAT and Zero Foot Print Runtimes
10:04 deedbot http://ave1.org/2018/sending-arrays-of-octets-between-c-and-ada/ << ave1 - Sending arrays of octets between C and Ada
10:04 mircea_popescu i didn't know non-romanian speakers even knew the word "octet"
10:04 mircea_popescu where'you from ave1 ?!
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10:15 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/minigame-smg-february-2018-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), February 2018 Statement
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10:39 mircea_popescu in other lulz : the people who debuted in porn this year are... 70% male.
10:40 mircea_popescu i expect porn is very much going the way of fashion, or academia : first, faggots get a hold of it, then... nobody would touch it with a ten foot pole.
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11:30 diana_coman thanks trinque
11:34 trinque yw
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11:55 * asciilifeform has at least a mild hint of bureaucracy flavour associated in head with 'octet' -- the word is mandatory in rfc txt's
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12:32 mircea_popescu leftover from a day when http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-29#1760685 was a lot clearer.
12:32 a111 Logged on 2017-12-29 15:44 mircea_popescu: but not on "byte" meaning anything other than what it does, which is to say... "how much the machine takes in at a time"
12:33 mircea_popescu as opposed to word (how much is needed to compose a complete address) and so on.
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13:47 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/03/pantsuit-nashville-mayor-resigns-while-admitting-to-theft/ << Qntra - Pantsuit Nashville Mayor Resigns While Admitting To Theft
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14:02 mircea_popescu not, notably, CORRUPTION
14:04 BingoBoingo Well, notably
14:09 BingoBoingo When dem hollywood boys do it "Exploitation!" when pantsuit does it "wage theft"
14:12 BingoBoingo Why no outrage for the poor suffering Sergeant who had to convincingly pretend enthusiasm when banging it out with a bag old enough that she had a mid-20's adult son die from terminal reddit/opiods last year.
14:22 mircea_popescu you know ?
14:24 BingoBoingo Pretty sure that's actually in the stankred pantsuit texts: Power differential sex abuse.
14:31 mircea_popescu yes but http://trilema.com/2018/memoranda-of-congress/#selection-157.595-159.101
14:31 mircea_popescu this is the limit where it must stop!
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14:48 mircea_popescu π•―π–Šπ–“ 𝖔𝖋 π•―π–Šπ–™π–Šπ–—π–’π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–‰ π•―π–†π–’π–˜π–Šπ–‘π–˜
14:48 mircea_popescu nice phf.
14:48 mircea_popescu 2017-02-04 23:23 ec changed the topic of #elliottcable to: a π•―π–Šπ–“ 𝖔𝖋 π•―π–Šπ–™π–Šπ–—π–’π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–‰ π•―π–†π–’π–˜π–Šπ–‘π–˜ slash sΝ”ΜžuΝ•Ν™pΝ™Ν“e̜̺rΜΌΜ¦i̼̜oΜ–Μ¬rΜ™Μ™ c̝͉α»₯Μ§Ν˜αΈ·Μ‘Ν™Ε£Ν“Μ€ || #ELLIOTTCABLE is not about ELLIOTTCABLE
14:48 BingoBoingo Well, one small herd of boxes on its way here. Hopefully this time we've assembled the men and talents necessary to secure and sustain a digital space from which to serve the notices of hanging.
14:49 mircea_popescu gl!
14:51 BingoBoingo Hoping here that SeΓ±or Vulpes arrives intact and ready to deliver good news.
15:03 ave1 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-06#1787066, I'm from and in The Netherlands.
15:03 a111 Logged on 2018-03-06 15:04 mircea_popescu: where'you from ave1 ?!
15:04 mircea_popescu cheers.
15:04 ave1 Remembered octets when this came up in the discussion.
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15:59 mircea_popescu meanwhile in other lulz, https://robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/
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16:09 mircea_popescu and for the crit lit / media experts, here's a conundrum : cool it carol, easily the best movie made in the 70s and one of the best movies ever, came out 1970. in 1971, "plaza suite" featuring matthau and various women has a segment dedicated to this anti-carol (mimsy), a dumb murican priss who locks herself in bathroom on her wedding day. the clou of the entire production is made into some schmuck (almost as ugly as rob askw
16:09 mircea_popescu ith, and certainy with the same bad hair) knocking on her door and saying "mimsy ? cool it!" so matthau can lay into them with "he went to college for four years and all he's got is cool it ?!".
16:09 mircea_popescu now... is this a reference or ain't it ?
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16:25 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-06#1787095 << old noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1640230 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742487 , afaik long dead
16:25 a111 Logged on 2018-03-06 20:59 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, https://robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/
16:25 a111 Logged on 2017-04-07 19:37 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: here's an even worse, https://mastodon.social
16:25 a111 Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same
16:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform got brought up in #picolisp which is why i bothered.
16:26 * mircea_popescu is engaged in a review of freenode channels, article to follow.
16:27 * asciilifeform remembers a lengthy picolisp thread, but either forgot or did not know , that it had own chan
16:27 mircea_popescu seems kinda social.
16:28 mircea_popescu meanwhile in ##openfpga, "<mithro> mircea_popescu: symbiflow.github.io -- what I'm spending all my spare time on"
16:29 mircea_popescu https://irclog.whitequark.org/~h~openfpga/2018-03-06#21488103 context.
16:35 mircea_popescu !!up nonlinear
16:35 deedbot nonlinear voiced for 30 minutes.
16:35 nonlinear Oh, Hi mircea_popescu just stumbled in here, and reading trilema.com to get a sense
16:36 mircea_popescu enjoy.
16:36 mircea_popescu though sense is usually an emergent property of half a year to a year's exploration
16:37 mircea_popescu meanwhile in #picolisp lulz, https://devco.re/blog/2018/03/06/exim-off-by-one-RCE-exploiting-CVE-2018-6789-en/
16:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: re the xilinx reversing attempt , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1769036 << prev thread
16:38 a111 Logged on 2018-01-11 16:49 apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-04#1764242 << do I understand correctly that there's nowhere to store the result, as there seems to be enough hw adders in an 'ice'?also, it seems that the same authors are trying to reverse some xilinx nao: https://symbiflow.github.io/
16:38 mircea_popescu o hey, it WAS mentioned!
16:39 nonlinear Yes, that seems about right from what I have seen so far. Exploration is a good term, and enjoyable.
16:39 asciilifeform iirc same author as 'icestorm'
16:39 mircea_popescu aha. goes by mithro ; i pinged him with it.
16:39 nonlinear Oh, I hope an opensource flow for Xilinx is achieved.
16:39 mircea_popescu nonlinear maybe once they're dead.
16:40 asciilifeform the seekrit tricky bit , is that if you can't compute an ~exact~ delay path, in nsec, between any point 'a' and 'b' in the fabric, yer tool is ~useless
16:40 asciilifeform ( in lattice's 'ice', the elements are homogeneous, so it was a nonproblem )
16:41 mircea_popescu ie you must know placement, rather exactly.
16:41 asciilifeform aha
16:41 asciilifeform ( and in more 'luxurious' fpga, some components have variable delay depending on how configed , even )
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16:59 mircea_popescu !#s "radxa.com"
16:59 a111 0 results for "\"radxa.com\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22radxa.com%22
16:59 mircea_popescu apparently this is a thing.
16:59 mircea_popescu http://wiki.radxa.com/Home
17:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'rockchip' rk series. asciilifeform ported trb to these in 2015.
17:02 mircea_popescu aha. they have a (dead) freenode chan.
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17:19 mircea_popescu "ARTIQ (Advanced Real-Time Infrastructure for Quantum physics) is a leading-edge"
17:19 mircea_popescu leading-edge! it's a leading-edge!
17:21 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
17:21 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 10716.89, vol: 14101.07474564 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 10719.0, vol: 44379.30953958 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 10731.2, vol: 9893.67637678 | Volume-weighted last average: 10720.3301767
17:30 * mircea_popescu tried to read above-linked rundown of gnu failure at social media ; erection died about midway through. really, kids too clueless to comprehend how clueless they are writing "the history" of how spurious irc re-implementation went nowhere ?
17:34 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-other-dead-things/ << Trilema - And in other dead things...
17:35 mod6 fuck all social media, i want gossip
17:36 mircea_popescu eh, i just want performance. they've got this thing now, where they're so desperate for cheap footage, they'll actually dress up athletes like they were people, seat them down in studios and make them talk.
17:36 mircea_popescu srsly nobody cares what random trained monkey has to say.
17:36 mircea_popescu strippers are for twerking not for tweeting.
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17:53 BingoBoingo They have even went futher and started dressing up the broken monkeys in suits and moved them from shows about the sports they used to play to hosting the old people and NEET morning shows
17:56 deedbot http://thewhet.net/2018/03/sede-atlantico/ << The Whet - Sede Atlantico
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18:28 * mircea_popescu ended up laughing ass off at trinque refuelling station once more.
18:29 trinque that one cracked me up.
18:30 BingoBoingo Balcony Disco!
18:33 mircea_popescu they're fuckin hopeless.
18:33 mircea_popescu government better be issuing more bonds.
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