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00:00 mircea_popescu and i suppose the evident similarity between dirac delta and "whichever unnamed abstractions you support your estimation of string theory" is also striking to you ?
00:01 mircea_popescu (schwartz above is laurent schwartz, provided an elegant translation of the non-functional nature of dirac's delta by using distribution limits to model it)
00:01 asciilifeform the difference is also imho obvious
00:01 mircea_popescu what's it ?
00:02 asciilifeform ( the string orchestra not only dun give a flying fuck re parsimony, but quite the opposite , complexity cancer deliberately cultured, breeds grantolade for mediocrities )
00:02 mircea_popescu but this is a political consideration.
00:02 mircea_popescu should be applied against people not against things.
00:02 asciilifeform there is no separability of the political.
00:03 mircea_popescu there is in this sense. if "alcohol" "leads people into sin", then those led into sin are to be hanged ; but alcohol not condemned.
00:03 asciilifeform i am not convinced of there being involvement of 'things' : strings have not even the reality anchor of phlogiston.
00:04 asciilifeform are ~= 'privilegism'
00:04 mircea_popescu they're abstract things
00:04 asciilifeform unanchored abstractions, like in schizo patient.
00:04 mircea_popescu but those are also still things.
00:04 mircea_popescu not concrete in any sense ; and not meaningful either, but still.
00:05 asciilifeform and unlike in schizo patient, crafted with clear political angle.
00:05 mircea_popescu "things that i can fuck", "things that i can understand", "things i can talk about". many kinds of things.
00:06 asciilifeform there is also 'things that, if loaded into a head, make it stupider'
00:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dirac's delta, aslo crafted with clear political angle : to exclude non-diracians from so-and-so set of benches.
00:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i put it to you, that if such a thing should exist, the head is at fault not the thing.
00:07 mircea_popescu do also there exist "bad data" known by that fact that "if put into computer, break it" ? fix the fucking code.
00:07 mircea_popescu obscenity laws, banned books, political correctness, antivirus corps etc are all the sorry product of the contrary view.
00:10 asciilifeform the basic sin in strings is same as in microshit and elsewhere: rejection of parsimony
00:10 asciilifeform that way lies daemonology and nothing else.
00:10 mircea_popescu so you'll settle on "dirac's delta visibly parsimonious ; string theory not so visibly if at all" ?
00:11 asciilifeform aha
00:11 mircea_popescu makes sense.
00:12 asciilifeform at least was obvious attempt. at parsimony.
00:12 mircea_popescu i suppose this actually enacts a fundamental of "parsimony" in estimation of all ideal objects.
00:12 mircea_popescu "do it or else alf won't like it and mp won't defend you and what else is there for you."
00:12 asciilifeform 'do it or you ain't even thinking, but fermenting'
00:13 mircea_popescu that also.
00:13 mircea_popescu very literally true, too. the act of fermentation as a thermodynamic process is correctly modelled as an increase in entropy ie exactly "that way lies demonology"
00:14 mircea_popescu system becomes more complex over time at a steady rate based on temperature / gates' worthless money input.
00:14 mircea_popescu exaclty as per the above "ants doing mango pulp powered research"
00:15 asciilifeform they're crankin' out LPUs, wat
00:15 asciilifeform troo hardworkers, candidates for tenure.
00:15 mircea_popescu indisputably.
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05:19 mircea_popescu in other lulz : each and everyone politician abscam put in jail (bout 30 or so) were... democrats. the party of corruption survived!
05:29 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/prince-of-the-city/ << Trilema - Prince of the City
05:43 mircea_popescu aand in yet more lulz : cancer incidence increased in us adolescents by a steady 0.5 - 0.6% per year, each year, since 1975.
05:43 mircea_popescu GOOD THING THEY STOPPED 2ND HAND SMOKING!!!
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11:41 BingoBoingo Oh, qntra seems not up from here
11:42 diana_coman seems down from here too fwiw
11:43 trinque dns error on my end. IP up?
11:46 shinohai I can't reach qntra either, get SERVFAIL reply
11:50 lobbes DNS error on my end as well
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12:25 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-25#1716991 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714469
12:25 a111 Logged on 2017-09-25 15:41 BingoBoingo: Oh, qntra seems not up from here
12:25 a111 Logged on 2017-09-14 21:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714333 << much chance of survival, seeing how a state of necessity was just declared, and absent servers there's no digital.
12:25 mircea_popescu as they say back at teh idle ranch, "it's only been ten days, what, that's not even two weeks (tm)!!!"
12:38 asciilifeform dulap is up, fwiw
12:39 mircea_popescu ahaha.
12:40 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-24#1716863 << same place, you realise.
12:40 a111 Logged on 2017-09-24 16:41 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, CAN YOU FUCKING BELIEVE phuctor is still on ?
12:41 mircea_popescu and in other lulz : google spent a quarter billion dollars worth of its govt's printouts on "corporate diversity". the results are not exactly zero
12:41 mircea_popescu in the sense that apparently there's less black chix coding at google now than before.
12:41 mircea_popescu leaving aside https://www.dhillonlaw.com/blog/news/have-you-experienced-illegal-employment-practices-at-google/ lulz
12:42 mircea_popescu (tl;dr : nigger jew faggots at google conspired to hinder anyone not of nigger jew faggot political persuasions.)
12:45 mircea_popescu and in other lulz from elaine ou : "ripple", which apparently is an entity that scammed wall street "investors" out of 55mn "investment" managed to write "R3" which is a sort of nothing in particular an XRP option worth supposedly a billion (admitting ripple the fake coin is worth anything) and while they can't back out of it, there's legal wrangling lulz : https://elaineou.com/2017/09/20/r3-should-just-buy-ripple/
12:46 shinohai It will soar in value to a whole 25 cents per!!!!!
12:47 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-25#1717002 << well yes same place, hence oddity
12:47 a111 Logged on 2017-09-25 16:40 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-24#1716863 << same place, you realise.
12:55 asciilifeform re qntra, i get a ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED -- which is not consistent with the 'box finally thrown out' picture
12:56 mircea_popescu yes if the local zone is deleted.
12:56 asciilifeform hm yea
12:57 mircea_popescu was 46.166.170.207 ; dun respond
12:57 * mircea_popescu shall bbl.
13:12 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
13:12 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3914.98, vol: 13514.60247765 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3908.7, vol: 37620.46954242 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3805.2, vol: 1318.80590000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3913.6, vol: 4258.15951396 | Volume-weighted last average: 3908.15761558
13:26 trinque but the chicoms banned bitcoin?
13:32 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-24#1716874 << this is neato btw
13:32 a111 Logged on 2017-09-24 22:51 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-22#1716721 << tests so far look great http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/e6fuo/?raw=true ; awaiting the full 1gb and then I'll publish results.
13:36 BingoBoingo !!up cruciform
13:36 deedbot cruciform voiced for 30 minutes.
13:36 cruciform hi! I'm having trouble self-voicing with deedbot
13:36 cruciform I've registered my key, but it won't let me !!up
13:37 trinque !!rate cruciform 1 New blood.
13:37 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IiHuI/?raw=true
13:37 trinque !!v 81E30B82ECBDFE45C9F242FA25D0A46CA3735FEE944CA3D7450C0B4956576428
13:37 deedbot trinque rated cruciform 1 << New blood.
13:37 trinque !!gettrust deedbot cruciform
13:37 deedbot L1: 0, L2: 1 by 1 connections.
13:37 cruciform thanks!
13:37 trinque cruciform: give it a try now.
13:37 trinque !!down
13:38 trinque lol, whoops.
13:38 trinque !!down cruciform
13:44 asciilifeform btw did i ever print the rated power consumption of a FUCKGOATS ?
13:44 asciilifeform it's 80mA @ 5v .
13:44 asciilifeform ( average, naturally )
13:46 asciilifeform in practice, this means that an unpowered usb hub should be able to support 6 of'em without problems.
13:48 mod6 that's what you use to test in parallel right?
13:48 asciilifeform mod6: i typically use powered hubs
13:48 asciilifeform one of the items i am currently working on is a fully-automatic FG tester
13:48 asciilifeform at the moment, the process is only semi-automatic.
13:53 asciilifeform linux kernel ( all the varieties i've tried ) seems to have a serious ( and wholly undocumented ) problem with > 7 serial devices .
13:54 asciilifeform transfer rate on 8th and above, slows to a kB/s or so
13:54 asciilifeform ( where the buffered bits go -- devil only knows )
13:54 mod6 <+asciilifeform> one of the items i am currently working on is a fully-automatic FG tester << ahh cool.
13:55 mod6 <+asciilifeform> transfer rate on 8th and above, slows to a kB/s or so << ugh.
13:56 asciilifeform mod6: the interesting bit is the -- afaik -- total absence of public discussion. because -- evidently -- Only A Terrorist (tm)(r) would use 8+ serial devices on pc.
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14:11 mircea_popescu who would you expect to use 8+, the usual appletard/tablethead/who exactly ?
14:11 mircea_popescu i expect more people complain of the chip color than of this.
14:11 asciilifeform appletard has problem even with 1 serialport
14:12 mircea_popescu so to him this seems heaven
14:12 asciilifeform ( iirc somebody here tried )
14:13 * mircea_popescu now trying guatemala's ron (colonial).
14:13 mircea_popescu tis exactly as i recall it from the mid 2000s.
14:13 asciilifeform the part i find interesting is that it is -- apparently -- impossible to use a current pc in the way, e.g., pdp11 was used - as box with two dozen + serial ttys hanging off
14:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty sure you could sit down a multi-usb hub unit in the card slot
14:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it dun work at rated speed
14:14 asciilifeform regardless of where you put the ports
14:14 asciilifeform kernel issue
14:15 mircea_popescu haven't trierd
14:15 asciilifeform i have a 9-port pcie card, same thing
14:15 asciilifeform iron serial ports apparently count towards the total
14:15 asciilifeform (not a usb-specific thing)
14:15 mircea_popescu tsk.
14:16 asciilifeform likely some idiocy in the interrupt handlers
14:16 trinque ^ wd
14:17 cruciform long time Windows derper - getting there!
14:18 mircea_popescu at any rate, if anyone cares : centenario anejo 25 yo (costa rica) > diplomatico r. exclusiva (venezuela) > colonial artesanal (guatemala) > centenario run of the bar > flor de cana (nicaragua).
14:18 mircea_popescu cruciform how did you end up here ?
14:18 cruciform I've been reading the logs+your guys' blogs
14:18 shinohai Is mircea_popescu sampling rums of CA ?
14:18 mircea_popescu shinohai aha.
14:19 mircea_popescu cruciform so what do you do ?
14:19 * shinohai tried some Colonial Artesanal in Guatemala .....
14:19 cruciform I look at cards and hope they're good
14:19 mircea_popescu the one with the leather corset for the bottleneck for some unknown reason ?
14:20 mircea_popescu cruciform where, like in macau ?
14:20 cruciform nah, Macau games have been bad for a while - London and LA, mostly
14:21 shinohai Yes mircea_popescu .... when one finishes the bottle lovely Guatemalan maidens tie it to your dick and ride .... xD
14:21 mircea_popescu i c
14:21 cruciform but I've been busy up until recently with the whole BCH nonsense
14:21 mircea_popescu heh
14:22 cruciform next up is transferring my BTC to some sane paper wallet solution - I've been using Armory thus far
14:22 mircea_popescu lol
14:22 ben_vulpes cruciform: didja catch the armory fail?
14:22 asciilifeform London and LA << you wouldn't by any chance know the fella in old thread, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-01#1709226 ?
14:22 a111 Logged on 2017-09-01 21:41 Barbarossa_: I'm a professsional poker player from the UK
14:22 cruciform and after the SSS botching, I need to change the setup
14:22 mircea_popescu every step of the way huh.
14:22 cruciform yea, that's me
14:22 asciilifeform cruciform == Barbarossa_ ?
14:22 asciilifeform aite
14:22 cruciform yea
14:23 cruciform I read Pete's guide to bitaddress.org
14:23 cruciform but I'm not qualified to audit the code of that site
14:24 cruciform http://www.contravex.com/2014/03/14/on-making-high-entropy-bitcoin-paper-wallets/ is this still the way to go?
14:24 asciilifeform i'm partial to well-made electric rng
14:25 cruciform I'll be ordering a FG soon; got some casino dice for now
14:25 cruciform it's just that bitaddress.org is a black box to me
14:26 mircea_popescu lol soon eh ?
14:26 asciilifeform running crypto routines via browser is monumentally dumb idea
14:26 cruciform well, I'd like to get my BTC out of Armory ASAP
14:26 asciilifeform every time you visit a www pg, potentially you get something new.
14:27 cruciform gotcha, so how should one convert his entropy to BTC private keys?
14:28 mircea_popescu i imagine the idea with browser stuff is you just save the javascript. as close to "compile locally, fucktard" as the redditard generation can possibly get -- guaranteed success through a browser-compiler of approximately-integer language.
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14:48 shinohai SoldierOfFortune: plox to fix your connection or get a bnc
14:56 mircea_popescu eh actually, why bother.
14:57 shinohai Well more than one way to skin a cat
14:57 * asciilifeform chopped down an oak with an ordinary ax today, and inescapably thought of BingoBoingo's wurk
14:58 mircea_popescu ropes and errything ?
14:58 asciilifeform was maybe 6 m. tall, no rope
14:58 asciilifeform but oughta have done it back when it was a wire cutter job
14:58 asciilifeform there is some sort of moral here.
14:58 mircea_popescu ah.
14:58 mircea_popescu oak, you know, 6m AROUND.
14:58 asciilifeform we have one of those. from it, the 'weeds' grow.
14:59 mircea_popescu aha.
14:59 mircea_popescu oak encounter is actually how a lot of pine lumberjacks get fucked
14:59 mircea_popescu apparently it "doesn't fall correctly" or somesuch
15:00 asciilifeform and i finally can picture how
15:00 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> oak encounter is actually how a lot of pine lumberjacks get fucked << And collects dead limbs in canopy!
15:00 asciilifeform even based on this scale model
15:00 asciilifeform it has strong fibres, they sorta bend, it breaks not in the expected spot
15:01 mircea_popescu aha.
15:03 BingoBoingo tis a good property for reflecting cannonshot
15:06 shinohai Looks like the Weiner gets 21 months in a chastity cage.
15:06 mircea_popescu who ?
15:09 BingoBoingo Huma Abedin's husband
15:09 ben_vulpes "I wanted to see if he was still up to his old tricks"
15:10 ben_vulpes http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-weiner-sentence-20170925-story.html
15:11 BingoBoingo "Cote acknowledged those efforts in her sentencing remarks. Still, she said, it was important to use his case as a deterrent to other would-be child abusers."
15:12 ben_vulpes i'm still waiting for the case where the sting agent claims to be 18 but then the dood gets locked up because he never checked her id or some shit and the agent was really playing a fifteen year old who was just pretending to be an eighteen year old
15:14 mircea_popescu it's... coming.
15:15 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: That's all of them
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15:40 mircea_popescu !#s ro15-4513
15:40 a111 0 results for "ro15-4513", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ro15-4513
15:40 mircea_popescu hm. i thought surely we did the "Secret alcohol antidote" thing.
15:41 mircea_popescu after all, what other basis in fact is there for all the "one weird trick they don't want you to know" / "the gubmint is supressing the water car" etc
15:45 BingoBoingo Oh?
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16:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we did
16:02 asciilifeform it was a yarchive thread
16:02 mircea_popescu ah
16:04 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-06#1089606 << possible thread
16:04 a111 Logged on 2015-04-06 01:34 asciilifeform: 'palcohol' << anyone remember when they banned the etoh antidote ?
16:05 BingoBoingo AH
16:08 asciilifeform 'Roche never commercialized this drug due to ethical & liability concerns. It would be useful in emergency room settings where physicians neede to communicate with intoxicated accident victims. But there was too much concern about it getting diverted to become a 'party drug.''
16:10 mircea_popescu the whole "can't prosecute me for drunk driving, i popped a magic pill" angle was just too much to swallow
16:12 asciilifeform the 'gotta prosecute for impairment, regardless of whether from drink or not sleeping, rather than litmus' was evidently too much to puritanswallow
16:13 asciilifeform ( recall also mircea_popescu's article re the fat train riders . )
16:14 mircea_popescu they demand their exam papers to cheat for god dang it!
16:15 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/the-peak-of-insanity iirc
16:15 asciilifeform ftr, 'No, they don't have ads in the subway going "fat women are an insult to society", no they don't have steel bars at the entryways to make it impossible for the overweight to get in and bother people. Instead, they derp about "manspreading". Why this and not that ? Because while they are both intentional actions of responsible agents, the decision of the man to stretch is right there, whereas the decision of the woman to overeat
16:15 asciilifeform is one step removed. That's all. That's the way the nazist state works...'
16:18 asciilifeform https://archive.is/jW1pv << in the plebepress.
16:24 asciilifeform !#s felonious fortification
16:24 a111 3 results for "felonious fortification", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=felonious%20fortification
16:24 asciilifeform ^ fans of al schwartz will recognize
16:25 asciilifeform in particular http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-17#1671451 .
16:25 a111 Logged on 2017-06-17 17:35 asciilifeform: elsewhere in uncleal, 'The FDA screamed "felonious fortification" when makers of cheap fortified wines wanted to add thiamine to prevent alcoholic neuropathy caused by thiamine malabsorption.'
16:32 asciilifeform and re dulap : http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/dump_9_25_17.gz ( sha512: 886a750d8c1bc8a4e254824a267a407e651e31dce62aa29e2c85c07dfd6e25921671742d6c775df5ea2d065068d579a7e5922b4c36b0d263a7972afc10194164 )
16:32 asciilifeform ^ latest.
16:33 asciilifeform ^ not massively different from prev snapshot, but here it is.
16:36 mircea_popescu more different now than a second before, apparently it didn't have elaine ou's pgp eithyer, notwithstanding it's on mit sks
16:37 asciilifeform is it rsa key ??
16:37 mircea_popescu yes
16:37 asciilifeform link ?
16:38 asciilifeform nm found
16:38 mircea_popescu a kk
16:38 mircea_popescu was just fishing it out lol
16:38 mircea_popescu http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/26209E74B2F34ACE5BC63F5904F41598FFD0D0A468CF4C5F63A285D62C7024B2 for record
16:38 mircea_popescu it'll be sad indeed once phuctor goes away, currently serves as gazette of record of rsa pubkeys.
16:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: post the sks link plox
16:40 asciilifeform i'm rather curious re why it was not snarfed
16:40 mircea_popescu possibly because may 2016 creation
16:40 mircea_popescu iirc we only ran it in 2015ish
16:40 asciilifeform that'd do it.
16:40 asciilifeform apr 2016 latest actually
16:40 mircea_popescu ah. month off huh. well then
16:41 * asciilifeform at one point put in some sweat to make a real-time sks feeding thing, but junked it when found that it requires ASSENT on peering ends to work
16:41 mircea_popescu i rtecall the whiole convo
16:41 asciilifeform aha, in the l0gz somewhere.
16:42 mircea_popescu !~later tell valentinbuza plox no more join/part spam.
16:42 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
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17:07 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/09/25/american-football-is-over/ << Bingo Blog - (American) Football Is Over
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18:15 mircea_popescu damn this cigar is a fucking great smoke.
18:15 cruciform what is it? I enjoyed a Romeo+Juliet last week
18:15 mircea_popescu presentation suggestion : one montecristo, aside one part fresh milk to one part centenario cafe (coffee liqueur in rum spirits, fucking fabulous).
18:16 mircea_popescu movie about inept us revolutionaries of the 40s optional.
18:21 mircea_popescu (daniel, lumet movie, about these "isaacson" couple and their spawn, a sort of rosenberg lite)
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18:54 BingoBoingo In classic Trilemas of the re-readings http://trilema.com/2013/requiem-for-a-dream/
18:57 mircea_popescu great one huh.
18:59 BingoBoingo Prolly the Trilema movie review which most comprehensively summarizes the context of the film
19:00 mircea_popescu goes great with http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/diana3.jpg ; tho i expect you need an expert to spot the dialated pupils.
19:01 mircea_popescu who else can take a flash to the eyelid like that, but the teen slut.
19:01 BingoBoingo Well, practice and timeliness
19:03 asciilifeform https://archive.is/0TMj5 << meanwhile in brittardia >> 'As part of their enquiries, detectives seized Rabbani’s mobile phone and laptop for the purpose of examining it, but Rabbani repeatedly refused to provide passwords for the devices to officers. ... Subsequently, the officers arrested him on suspicion of wilfully obstructing or seeking to frustrate an examination or search under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 ... He was t
19:03 asciilifeform oday sentenced to 12 months’ conditional discharge and ordered to pay a £620 fine'
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19:20 mircea_popescu eh, uk african lulz. who cares really ?
19:27 asciilifeform iirc there are l1 folx, even, still there.
19:27 asciilifeform ( and possibly whoever thinks 'i'll connect via heathrow'. badidea. )
19:28 mircea_popescu i imagine the day is not far removed in the future where idiostani residence is absolute bar to l1.
19:28 mircea_popescu for that matter, sitting on ass during natural disaster is just as much absolute bar to l1.
19:29 asciilifeform natural disaster ?
19:30 mircea_popescu but in other lulz : i idly considered checking out jamaica for a week or so. a) THERE IS NO BOAT SERVICE. fucking period. can you believe this inept shit ?! and b) idjits wanna connect through... miami. atlanta. FUCKING NEW YORK, someone actyually said this to me with a straight face, "sure, flight is 10 hours, sjo to la guardia and la guardia to kin".
19:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714469 ; i dunno how oft i'll have to repeat this, but, comparatively, katrina was a minor concern.
19:30 a111 Logged on 2017-09-14 21:30 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-14#1714333 << much chance of survival, seeing how a state of necessity was just declared, and absent servers there's no digital.
19:31 asciilifeform aa
19:31 mircea_popescu how exactly am i going to go "hey, he did nothing during state of necessity, but still should be in l1". because why the fuck ?
19:31 asciilifeform normally i think of word 'natural' as something else.
19:31 mircea_popescu let him move over to #hplusplus or wherever the fucktards gather to do nothing self-importantly.
19:31 asciilifeform that there's enemy fire
19:31 mircea_popescu stupidity is natural.
19:32 asciilifeform 'where were you in june of 41' (tm)(r)
19:34 mircea_popescu quite fuckign exactly.
19:34 mircea_popescu except, of course, this is more like a levy. "oh i know, i'll argue with mp about building levies in 2015, as if that's fucking permissible now, arguing with mp ; and then in 2016 and then whoops, the obvious natural occurence took us by total suprise!!11"
19:39 asciilifeform iirc in '15 the 'hosters are all shit for the same reason as miners, they are -ev to operate without scammitude, so change'em like condoms' school of thought was still strong.
19:39 BingoBoingo !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Pvvul/?raw=true
19:39 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
19:39 BingoBoingo brb, sobertime
19:40 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RZZNy/?raw=true
19:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform twas nonsense then as now.
19:48 mircea_popescu (for the curious, teeny slut above is from http://trilema.com/2010/masa-monetara/ which is part of a larger likbez on economics that i'm rather proud of)
19:49 * asciilifeform honing his ro-fu, reads...
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20:05 asciilifeform in other lulz, "GET /faq HTTP/1.1" 200 8124 "http://milrev-rannub.urbit.org/~~/talk/"
20:16 mircea_popescu dojos now ?
20:17 mircea_popescu they're never going to run out of other people's words to try and steal and sell, are they.
20:17 mircea_popescu fucking hot topic, "and THIS is a pirate" "no, it's not" "19.95"
20:20 asciilifeform pretty sure they've by nao stolen every single word in anglodictionary, up to 5 letters an' counting
20:22 mod6 https://koinswag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/MPSilver.png
20:22 asciilifeform lol!
20:23 mircea_popescu kek what is that in the background, rocket launchers ?
20:23 asciilifeform do we know who was this maker
20:23 mircea_popescu i vaguely recall tshirts being made at points
20:23 mod6 no idea, it's been around for a while tho...
20:23 mircea_popescu tho tbh i'd prefer it modeled on tits.
20:23 asciilifeform https://koinswag.com/shop/bitcoin-t-shirt/mpex-bitcoin-t-shirt/ apparently also
20:26 deedbot http://trinque.org/2017/09/25/fuckgoats-tested/ << trinque - FUCKGOATS tested
20:26 asciilifeform oh hey hey hey lbj!!
20:27 mod6 i like the mpex shirt too hehe. but aha, tits would be sweet.
20:27 mod6 MPEx = ( . Y . )
20:27 mod6 or something
20:28 asciilifeform btw ain't it riotously scandalous that the dieharder d00d never showed up here ?
20:28 asciilifeform i and iirc a few other folx -- wrote
20:29 mod6 yeah, would have been proper.
20:29 shinohai !#s http://www.ru.j-npcs.org/usoft/WWW/HOWTO/mini/Clock
20:29 a111 0 results for "http://www.ru.j-npcs.org/usoft/WWW/HOWTO/mini/Clock", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ru.j-npcs.org%2Fusoft%2FWWW%2FHOWTO%2Fmini%2FClock
20:30 mircea_popescu this "i'm more important than the world" is the easiest delusion.
20:30 mircea_popescu they're by their nature sweet, but this one's like truffles to the pigs.
20:32 asciilifeform trinque: updated FG www with link to your review.
20:32 asciilifeform this makes 3 .
20:32 trinque cheers
20:34 mod6 nice trinque
20:41 asciilifeform i'm still waiting to hear of somebody other than myself, doing the yoke test
20:42 asciilifeform because -- unsurprise, i hope -- if yer FUCKGOATS were replaced with an identical-looking ftmeadegoats en route, it would pass (perhaps even 'prettier') the dh, ent, etc tests, as the original
20:42 asciilifeform even after being lethally boobytrapped.
20:43 asciilifeform another suggested experiment for FG owners is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1703042 .
20:43 a111 Logged on 2017-08-24 17:16 asciilifeform: btw you can make this right now by attaching 2 hg tilt switches to a fg , 1 on each end ( b/w the middle and the +v pins )
20:47 asciilifeform ^ incidentally : if you can get hall-effect switches, these will work even better ( the important thing is for whatever switch to be 'bounce-less', contact-bouncing creates predictable, in theory, temporal patterns )
20:49 asciilifeform ( back to yoke test -- it is somewhat tricky, you need ~very~ good cabling, and very short, for the clocks to sync properly )
20:51 asciilifeform FG-II rng will prolly have 4 pins, 1 for shifter pulse, to make yoking ultra-easy at ~0 cost.
20:54 asciilifeform ANOTHER useful advice to every fg owner is to verify that the cpld shitstream in yer unit, is in fact == to the one asciilifeform signed.
20:54 mod6 asciilifeform: so far, i've only gone to the extent of unplugging both RNG-TWs and ensuring that the SAD lamp does what it should.
20:54 asciilifeform i'd be surprised if anybody's, at this early point, isn't... but this is by far the cheapest and easiest method for enemy to tamper, and leaves 0 physical trace
20:55 mircea_popescu "Chi square distribution for 1048576000 samples is 217.95, and randomly would exceed this value 95.52 percent of the times."
20:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in the torture room , i get a pretty flat distrib of chisqr values
20:56 mircea_popescu me2
20:56 mod6 that's in the 'suspect' range no?
20:56 mircea_popescu wtf is this
20:56 mircea_popescu Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141491330 (error 0.00 percent).
20:56 asciilifeform i see 5 ... 95 range approx. flatly.
20:56 mircea_popescu !~calc (3.141491330 - pi)/pi * 100
20:56 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: (3.141491330 - pi)/pi * 100 = -0.0032252300334771494
20:57 mircea_popescu !~calc pi
20:57 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: pi = 3.141592653589793
20:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: technically the idjit util is right tho, it's below 0.01% err
20:57 * mod6 checks his results
20:57 mircea_popescu ya.
20:58 mircea_popescu counterintuitvely, the 4th decimal of pi should be within a 100th of a 100th
20:58 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660236 << oblig thread
20:58 a111 Logged on 2017-05-23 01:04 asciilifeform: asciilifeform used 'dieharder' to reject a handful of screamingly defective analogue units , but currently isn't sure that it's good for much re a ~working~ one
20:58 mod6 I had one result that was 10%, the rest 25%-50% : http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg-test.html
20:59 mircea_popescu anyway, item seems fine.
21:00 asciilifeform it chronically bothers asciilifeform , that there is actually nothing to compare fg to
21:00 asciilifeform unlike literally every other instrument i have
21:00 mircea_popescu heh. count your blessings.
21:03 mircea_popescu and in other epic pix : http://files.cinemacenter.ir/images/0b1m007w1zswc6qjspdg.jpg check out the lt checking out the ukr slut while she's going "omfg, are there more coming still ? this will be a long night."
21:07 mod6 get your wienerschnitzels ready
21:07 mircea_popescu !!up eo
21:07 deedbot eo voiced for 30 minutes.
21:07 mircea_popescu hey.
21:07 eo hullo
21:08 mircea_popescu !!register your key ftr.
21:08 deedbot 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452 is already registered as mircea_popescu.
21:08 mircea_popescu then ill rate you and you'll be able to self-voice.
21:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform chick came by in march and then a few days ago, my records show, none of you hardasses thought to up her.
21:09 asciilifeform ain't n00bz supposed to pm somebody an' ask ?
21:09 mircea_popescu i suppose.
21:10 mircea_popescu eo so what do you know of teh republic ?
21:11 eo @mircea_popescu only what i read in your blog posts
21:12 mircea_popescu i see. soo... wanna argue about anything ?
21:12 eo that's tough. i'm only here because i already agree with most of your content.
21:13 mircea_popescu weird, we dun generally find much fault with yours, notwitstanding in theory we should!
21:22 mircea_popescu !!up elaineo
21:22 deedbot elaineo voiced for 30 minutes.
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21:44 asciilifeform meanwhile, vex writes in, in au, with https://archive.is/Pyln1 : 'One of the country's top universities has warned maths students not to use the term 'marriage' when referring to a well-known theorem because the word may cause 'offence.''
21:52 mircea_popescu why would anyone stick around after that is incomprehensible.
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22:28 danielpbarron !!key cruciform
22:28 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/4E18288CAA6A98F4C51066053B6F4A8387D54AC6.asc
22:35 danielpbarron !~later tell cruciform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/u5Dhj/?raw=true
22:35 jhvh1 danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
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23:17 asciilifeform in other lullies, https://www.ebay.com/i/232493884604
23:22 BingoBoingo !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/f2zCx/?raw=true
23:22 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
23:34 BingoBoingo https://gensteel.com/steel-building-kits/strip-malls << Anyone know a place to plop one of these outside NATO near transit cable to make datacenter?
23:38 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: http://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/products/Prefabricated-IT-Data-Hall-500kW-97-Racks-Perimeter-CW-Cooling-Mod-Distrib-480V-60Hz/P-PFMIEA500C2N097A perhaps a more suitable prefab?
23:39 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Prefab strip mall has shorter walk to coffee shop, provided a coffee data tenant rents space
23:41 ben_vulpes it is a sad truth that all data centers i have been in have sadder coffee production facilities than even starbucks.
23:41 ben_vulpes also use windows. also in usshitistan.
23:45 BingoBoingo Really [coffee shop][datacenter (studio apartment carveout)][scooter dealer] is imagined layout
23:45 BingoBoingo for the moment
23:47 BingoBoingo If locale has enough people who feel entitled to protective road cage to justify 4-wheel dealership, locale prolly sucks for building building
23:50 ben_vulpes under that analysis, should probably do fork/heavy equipment/rental+dealership instead of scooter dealership
23:50 BingoBoingo Nah, the customers there are demanding and suspicious. Not to mention keeps existential threats to datacenter too close.
23:51 BingoBoingo Re-reading of the moment http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/
23:51 ben_vulpes existential threats, yes, but in their docile state!
23:52 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Few have meaningful locks on them. Only docile because passerby have anxiety about starting up unattented equipment.
23:53 BingoBoingo Anyways, it's hard to meaningfully lock a door when excavator sleeps within 100 yards of door. Doesn't leave much time to take position with anti-materiel rifle before it closes range
23:54 ben_vulpes lol ok ok
23:54 BingoBoingo While scooters produce delicious 2-stroke exhaust and help the pobre commute within their substantial means
23:54 ben_vulpes not like it would be hard to wire keypads into them if they still don't have meaningful locks.
23:55 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Most heavy equipment starts by holding hidden button while pressing "start button", Or turning key shapped ignition switch while holding hidden button
23:56 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: asciilifeform's father's auto in ye olde su, had one of these
23:57 asciilifeform 'seekrit' starter-enbl button
23:57 asciilifeform to this day i have nfi wtf was the point
23:58 asciilifeform iirc it had to be clicked a magic # of times, or rhythm, or somesuch
23:59 mod6 lot of the bobcats i've seen recently have a 10-key pad to enter a code before it can be started.
23:59 asciilifeform ritualistic voodoo-hoodoo-hex against thieves
23:59 mod6 older ones though...
23:59 mod6 lol
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