#trilema | 2017-08-26

heh

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aaanyway. zee pantsuits have serious reason tyo be worried, in a police state the unchecked power to pardon is very dangerous.

00:07

way us works, "everyone's guilty", of nothing in particular but nevertheless. then trump's guys walk and the pantsuits are left to do 5+ years "sentencing guidelines".

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a coupla years of this, the pantsuit party will be akin to 1880s russian futurists.

00:07

Yeah, pardoning is the only power that matters when original sin is on the line

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asciilifeform predicts that if this button starts getting heavy use, it'll be unplugged quickly and quietly

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Can't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKjc8IfzzMM

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how ?

00:13

constitutional ammendment ?

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nah, same way as they unplugged his executive orders. 'pardon? very funny, d00d stays in jail, whatchagonnadoaboutit'

00:14

heh

00:14

he actually can call the natl guard.

00:15

that's how all the rooseveltian bs was imposed in the 50s.

00:15

could have called it to get the illicit immigrants out of berkeley, also

00:15

but did not.

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iffier, but yes.

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nor the 'judges'.

00:15

well how the fuck would that have worked.

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i suspect that he dun particularly want to learn whether ~that~ button worx

00:16

"You broke the rules" "Fuck you, you're breaking the rules" "Fuck you I'm Tom Brady"

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who's tom brady ?

00:17

The Cartman who is in the nightmare with Commisioner Cartman and Coach Cartman

00:17

ah

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A perfect storm of hypocrisy that captures America's attention for months on end...

00:19

asciilifeform why not ?

00:20

now this i have nfi, why not, lol. ask him...

00:20

but YOU proposed it.

00:20

"i think alf fucks chickens" "Why would he do that" "i dunno, ask him"

00:24

proposed for lack of better hypothesis in my head

00:24

hanbot

does mircea_popescu assert you can't suspect someone of something without knowing a plausible motive?

00:24

well gotta have some basis ; otherwise what are you suspecting them of, "i suspect thee of me not liking you" ?

00:24

( e.g. If it were known that asciilifeform were stranded on asteroid with only his chicken, but nevertheless fucked... )

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asciilifeform bbl

00:25

asciilifeform ok, that works. indicate such set of knowns.

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<asciilifeform> nor the 'judges'. << Pardon theology doesn't work that way.

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i think that was re "call natl guard"./

00:26

Right, but this is why not call on judges over executive orders. It's a theological question.

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Pardon vacates decisions judges attach to people.

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Decisions judges make about decisions are condemned to float around judge wank

00:27

interesting point.

00:27

It's why you can national guard over one point and not the other

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<asciilifeform> could have called it to get the illicit immigrants out of berkeley, also << And on this point INS is scaling up enforcment, can't National Guard while they can scale up unless salable "crisis".

00:33

While 'Murica may have been denied the possibility of a functioning culture by the Puritains, the Xtian possibility of absolution is the only role President and Governors have which seperates them from retail managers and traffic cops

00:33

http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BDFE9593C55F0E1D9A7E6C27AF731FCBBE190D92FEFB036540ED5929D245901A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1362...2729 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.253.102.108 (ssh-rsa key from 87.253.102.108 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host-108-102.253-87.enter.it. IT)

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00:33

myeah

00:36

Without pardon there is no executive, which means dissolution

00:36

If pantsuit kills Trump on this they won't have anything left to take

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jhvh1

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!!up p0nziph0ne

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p0nziph0ne voiced for 30 minutes.

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jhvh1

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13:07

shinohai

yay, trinque is still alive! :P

13:08

no tx weather is allowed to kill me without my permission

13:09

shinohai

If only we had bigger blox, could fit more weather in those tx's

13:10

lulz

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14:16

trinque so how alt-weather did it get ? pictures post ?

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14:42

as yet, hasn't done much of anything in houston, though I think I slept through a wave of rain last night. corpus christi and surrounding areas got a pounding.

14:43

we're right in between two bands atm, and sun is peaking through.

14:43

could still flood if the thing turns NE

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if we get a decent deluge, will post

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mircea_popescu chuckles at the thought that while all this was brought about by 40 inches of rain,

14:44

costa rica gets 25 FEET. A YEAR.

14:48

hola mike_c

14:56

mike_c

good afternoon

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mod6

glad to see you stayed safe trinque

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jhvh1

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shinohai

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