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00:01 mats no updates re: esp8266, don't have time for it but i'll cough up the coin if someone wants to try a bulk purchase and play with one
00:04 mats BingoBoingo: any side effects i should know about, do you know if its effective with ulnar nerve entrapment
00:05 BingoBoingo mats: None I know about, and no specifics on that application. It will however allow for greater effective dosing than continuing 800 mg ibuprofen
00:06 mats the ibuprofen hasn't done shit for me besides give me heartburn
00:10 mats https://gregpytel.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/largest-heist-in-history.html 'This blog demonstrates that ... the financial system was turned into a pyramid scheme in a technical, legal sense'
00:11 mircea_popescu such a novel idea.
00:14 BingoBoingo mats: Well that's why you ought to go topical
00:15 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/04/15/once-upon-a-time-in-a-36-sigma-event-far-far-away/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Once upon a time, in a 36 sigma event far, far away…
00:15 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/04/civil-unrest-continues-in-berkeley-antifa-terrorists-deploy-chemical-weapons/ << Qntra - Civil Unrest Continues in Berkeley – Antifa Terrorists Deploy Chemical Weapons
00:15 mircea_popescu is asad goin gto bomb berkley ?
00:18 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644346 << item doesn't exist, no.
00:18 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 03:26 asciilifeform: ( where do i even buy a provably nonwhitened trng ?! to compare to, i mean. i tried to buy such a thing, failed. not sold afaik for any amount. )
00:20 mats https://www.scribd.com/document/344995943/Report-by-White-House-Alleging-Proof-of-Syria-as-the-Perpetrator-of-the-Nerve-Agent-Attack-in-Khan-Shaykhun-on-April-4-2017 Prof. Ted Postol believes the current us administration is being manipulated by clever propaganda
00:21 mircea_popescu pretty much the consensus afaik.
00:22 mircea_popescu old man watching tv.
00:22 BingoBoingo Clearly Puntin needs to redirect Assad to this dire threat
00:22 mats same fella is also known for debunking an earlier attribution to assad for the 2013 damascus attack, disputing israeli claims as to 90% effectiveness of the iron dome (discussed here iirc), and pissing on the effectiveness of the patriot pac-2 system in 'desert storm'
00:23 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644377 << because amateurs.
00:23 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 03:49 asciilifeform: the 'mules' piece i read, and wondered why it does not discuss the people actually fucked by cc fraud (vendors) and instead dwells on the people not-fucked-at-all (banks)
00:23 mircea_popescu mats or perhaps more properly put, "anti-known", in the sense the tards pretend not to know.
00:24 mircea_popescu somehow they're also insulated from the "isn't it strange, you seerm to know what you're ostensibly not knowing" problem. through wishing they were, because that works irl!!1
00:31 mats i suspect it was delivered with an artillery shell rather than a rocket dropped by su-22, american radar may be able to disprove this
00:31 mats but then why not publish this evidence?
00:32 mircea_popescu the syrian story is the rebels were stockpiling it and it broke out once bombed.
00:32 mircea_popescu this is rather likely true ; if it is by far the best strategy for the terrorist state involved is to publish nothing and yak loudly.
00:33 mircea_popescu it still enjoys a lot of support among ~300 million moral idiots without any sort of conscience.
00:33 mats https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/04/05/khan-sheikhoun-chemical-attack-evidence-far/ a collection of osint on the subject
00:35 BingoBoingo The point that matters is that someone needs to make POTUS great again
00:36 BingoBoingo take the fucker's tv and put the old man on a strict diet of AM radio
00:40 mircea_popescu heh
00:42 mats i have been thinking usg destabilization of dprk is a great way to jam a fork in the party's eye
00:42 mats this month has been entertaining
00:44 mats (chinese communist party)
00:46 mircea_popescu maybe.
00:46 mircea_popescu usg has a lenghty history of monumentally inept intl politics
00:46 mircea_popescu honestly i'd rather trust a gaggle of ghana street urchins than us state to achieve anything.
00:48 mats there's footage suggesting massive .cn troop movements to the border
00:48 BingoBoingo Which is why Trump needs to listen to Rush Limbaugh like real Americans do on their drive home from work.
00:49 mats although this is consistent with specific brinksmanship events
00:49 mircea_popescu mats this is how the usg lost ukraine, iksn't it.
00:49 mircea_popescu if china decides to annex korea, both of them, who's gonna say anything ?
00:49 mircea_popescu the ny strip club/grill dba "un" ?
00:50 mats perhaps mr. trump will let a nuke off the chain
00:51 mircea_popescu nobody ever will. nukes are a unique item that a) doesn't work and b) everyone thinks it does. it's the exact equivalent of the "valuable inheritance".
00:51 mircea_popescu it ain't ever getting sold because it's more valuable as a tool to control the children than it'd ever fetch on the market.
00:51 mats what would the party want with dprk anyways, they'd be picking up the tab for an entire generation
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00:51 mircea_popescu what'd anyone want with ukraina.
00:51 mircea_popescu i dunno, don't ask me, there's a reason i don't try to run a geostate.
00:52 mats i agree that its unlikely anyone will use a nuke and claim responsibility for it
00:53 mircea_popescu if anyone "uses" one there'll be auto-allocated responsibiolity. just like in the case of assad.
00:53 mircea_popescu according to everyone, everyone else dun it.
00:53 mats but the use of, say, one of those long-lost ussr suitcase nukes in uncertain circumstances, well...
00:54 mats great excuse to annex a wealthy neighbor experiencing a fictitious civil war, under the pretense of martial law
00:54 mircea_popescu eh amnd what's that gonna do. bl;ow up a parking lot ?
00:54 mircea_popescu mats indeed.
00:54 mircea_popescu hence the earlier comment re "buy ssds whole they still exist"
00:55 mircea_popescu not like china believes in free market in the sense of selling you anything but the dregs.
00:55 mircea_popescu you know, just like the usg wouldn't sell it anything but the dregs for a century.
00:55 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644428 << lizards are at war with the very concept of sovereignty.
00:55 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 04:51 mats: what would the party want with dprk anyways, they'd be picking up the tab for an entire generation
00:55 mats the border with dprk is enormous, how do you unfuck the refugee problem
00:56 mats guess you could put a couple divisions to work shooting people and digging holes...
00:56 asciilifeform which is why they've been trying to rm -rf northkr since '50s
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00:57 asciilifeform it is currently the only nation ( and, yes, unlike, e.g., usa, it is a nation) with industry but no mcdonalds, no riaa, and no harvard sons.
00:58 asciilifeform total rejection of the lizard cathedral.
00:59 asciilifeform which is why their attempts to build cheap, effective usg navy erasers is painted as 'aggression'
01:02 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561581 << see also thread.
01:02 a111 Logged on 2016-11-01 22:30 asciilifeform: but to appreciate it, you'd have to actually think re subj and not simply swallow south kr (usg) nonsense
01:09 mircea_popescu can't say i'm all too keen on the nation bullshit.
01:09 mircea_popescu from experience it always works out to "we'll link up to protect our stupidity in a group of idiots"
01:15 mod6 <+asciilifeform> and spiffy scope, mod6 << thx!
01:15 mats some riot clips from today: when antifa tries to build a wall https://twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/853357068149022721 leled at beer belly guy wearing a 'captain america'-themed t shirt
01:15 mircea_popescu i suppose the commie dorks forgot what all happened to the guys hitler's sa practiced on.
01:16 mats https://twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/853369814353661953 what is wind
01:17 mod6 <+asciilifeform> incidentally i'd be curious to hear if anybody's ever seen a dieharder output on something that isn't a prng or prng-whitened trng, that consistently produced no 'weak'. << werd.
01:17 mats the 'antifa' people are all out of shape compared to the other guys on scene
01:17 mod6 i'll be testing the other ones and will report back how the ent/dh results look on each.
01:17 mircea_popescu doh. they're the fat whores.
01:18 mats http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-trump-supporters-beaten-agitators-berkeley-rally
01:18 mircea_popescu cool deal.
01:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i can't say i personally much relish nations, but the alternative seems to be 'atomized' people who are deculturated to the point of qualifying for simian cage in zoo, and crushed by megastate like insects when needed.
01:19 asciilifeform mod6: neato, i look forward to reading
01:20 mod6 <+asciilifeform> NOW if it happens with all of the units in mod6 's parcel, and ~every~ run -- then problem. << this is key too. i'll perhaps collect another 1Gb+ a few more times from that initial first one and report back on the ent/dh results too.
01:21 mod6 asciilifeform: werd. anyway, it's exciting to test these.
01:21 mats i look forward to watching riots in vr
01:22 asciilifeform mod6: it helps to recall, also, what 'dieharder' and similar tools are actually ~for~.
01:23 asciilifeform they will reliably find what one might call 'coarse errors in pilotage' of rng builder
01:23 asciilifeform (e.g., stuck bits)
01:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform just because the ustard is a sad excuse for monkey nation does not imply we'll now accept the turd soup of "nations" does it ?
01:25 mod6 i'd like to get more familiar with the types of statistical tests from `ent` and `dieharder`.
01:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: everyone i ever met who was worth knowing was a product (and typically escapee from) a healthy , traditional nation. not deculturated ???s, no.
01:27 mircea_popescu i'm certainly no product of a (wholly imaginary) romanian "nation".
01:27 asciilifeform mod6: most of'em are essentially montecarlos of various sorts, and result is judged by how close to 'expected'
01:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: says the d00d from whose www i learned enough ro to read , e.g., 'silver boar' hunt poem and 1,001 other cultural treasures from 'imaginary nation'
01:30 mircea_popescu if you're definition of a nation is a language then you're very much not talking of the same thing as in the case of best korea.
01:30 mircea_popescu 2nd best korea uses same language.
01:31 mod6 asciilifeform: aha. ok, just read about that on the `ent' page. mine was: Monte Carlo value for Pi is 3.141730891 (error 0.00 percent).
01:31 asciilifeform different кто ты по жизни jumper settings, however
01:31 mod6 Looks pretty solid to me.
01:32 mircea_popescu anyway. i'm transylvanian if anything, which is an ethic group, if you must, and which has about as much to do with "romania" as say http://trilema.com/2013/the-greatest-accomplishments-of-the-french/#comment-92869
01:32 mircea_popescu there's certainly no such thing as "the ardeal nation"
01:32 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this i can picture.
01:33 asciilifeform the 19th c. 'nationbuildings' were bogus, is obvious to blind man.
01:33 mircea_popescu and for that matter i don't recall you being much of a "nation of ukr" either.
01:34 asciilifeform i dun see appeal of inhabiting fictional nations any moar than mircea_popescu does.
01:35 mircea_popescu so then lettuce leave this 1800s hillarytardism rot in the 1800s.
01:35 mircea_popescu nations are for people too stupid to have been born this century.
01:35 asciilifeform they're the pilot light.
01:36 asciilifeform 'healthy breeding cow pool that sometimes produces people' as old mircea_popescu article put it.
01:36 mircea_popescu im unconvinced.
01:36 mircea_popescu teach the girls to whore and the boys to die, that's all the nation you'll ever need or for that matter want.
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01:37 mircea_popescu (note that this is also exactly THE OPPOSITE of what every "nation" aims or attempts)
01:37 asciilifeform usa was , at its root, a massive test of 'hey nations are bogus, nobody needs, let's all be Independent People Doing Own Thing'
01:37 asciilifeform massive failure.
01:37 mircea_popescu it worked while they worked it.
01:38 asciilifeform while folks from healthy old world came and worked it.
01:38 mircea_popescu once "doing independent thing" became watching tv (a subset thereof http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-15#1643888 are -- they're exactly IDENTICAL to middle aged women, watching their favourite tv dramas)...
01:38 a111 Logged on 2017-04-15 01:17 mircea_popescu: i expect about half are white, unsexed, males in their 30s +- 8 years.
01:38 asciilifeform deculturated wonders automagically create a tv.
01:39 mircea_popescu i don't think so.
01:39 asciilifeform in 18th c it was their dour churches.
01:39 mircea_popescu lazy is not in any sense precluded by smart. just look at bernstein.
01:41 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644493 << ahahaha die for ~what~. is what nation is.
01:41 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 05:36 mircea_popescu: teach the girls to whore and the boys to die, that's all the nation you'll ever need or for that matter want.
01:41 mircea_popescu i don't think it worked on anyone but illiterate peasants, that trick.
01:41 asciilifeform 'die for mcshitburger' ain't working out so well for the anglotards.
01:42 mircea_popescu again, historical accident dun enact engineering lest we end up building planes of roof since tornado happened.
01:42 asciilifeform 'die for a fat broad's right to marry her dog' (tm)(r)(trilema)
01:44 mircea_popescu i don't think anyone imagines natostan works
01:44 mircea_popescu theirein included, the "our democracy" aparatchicks.
01:46 asciilifeform hassids, however: work. ( e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561673 thread )
01:46 a111 Logged on 2016-11-01 23:12 asciilifeform: and in re last thread also, i know of 0 examples of anybody pulling this kind of thing off using strictly volunteers having no blood relation.
01:46 asciilifeform chechens -- work.
01:47 mircea_popescu i thought you didn't think they worked.
01:47 asciilifeform they work, as far as i can tell.
01:47 mircea_popescu heh.
01:47 mircea_popescu how about we let a chechen join the wot, make it to the lordship, then he can tell us they work if they do.
01:47 asciilifeform fact: somebody gotta fall on grenade. plug embrasure.
01:47 mircea_popescu till then, they work as well as drinking gasoline works.
01:47 mircea_popescu "man... i forgot what i was tryinna do!"
01:48 asciilifeform resisting dissolution in surrounding deculturated liquishit == works.
01:48 mircea_popescu nonsense.
01:48 asciilifeform resisting mcshitburger.
01:48 mircea_popescu makes it into l1 and says it works = works.
01:49 asciilifeform whole point is that they are own l1.
01:49 asciilifeform dun need us martians for anything.
01:50 mircea_popescu = not works.
01:50 mircea_popescu that's my whole fucking point, i need another set of "oh, we have slavegirls! no they can't dance and what is this cocksucking ? BANNED BY GOD!!11" bullshit.
01:50 asciilifeform this is a postulation, not an observation, nor a deduction; i won't engage it
01:50 mircea_popescu might have been entertaining in 1100
01:51 mircea_popescu the notion that random-dorks may make "their own" l1 is not unlike the proposition princeton made its own alt-world in which it is relevant and "Blockchain technologees".
01:51 mircea_popescu if it didn't suck it'd have been in here.
01:51 asciilifeform princeton is a tendril of the octopus.
01:52 mircea_popescu what, and you're enumerating badness ?
01:52 asciilifeform whereas anything demonstrably separate from the octopus, and that resists it, is a valuable thing.
01:52 mircea_popescu the problem isn't "princeton is tendril of XXX". the problem is "if princeton didn't suck it would have been in here."
01:52 mircea_popescu that is nonsense.
01:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu seriously expects sane folx to automatically accept him as pope 'at first sight' ?
01:56 asciilifeform just like-so?
01:56 mircea_popescu me ?
01:57 asciilifeform well, how am i to process 'if they didn't suck, they'd already be here'
01:58 mircea_popescu well, in my apparently peculiar view "here" is a construct of thought rather than a mpapacy.
01:58 asciilifeform ideally!
02:00 mircea_popescu eh, let them be the better mps, if they got the wetware. what, you think i'd object ?
02:01 mircea_popescu save me the fucking trouble, i'll throw a ticker tape parade.
02:01 * asciilifeform typically of same mind re own functions.
02:02 mircea_popescu if power rangers weren't terminal fucking retards it's altogether unlikely anyone'd even know the name.
02:02 mircea_popescu i don't even mean "if they were brilliant" or anything.
02:03 asciilifeform if earlier set of powerrangers weren't similarly retarded, we would not have heard of stalin, say.
02:03 asciilifeform i don't know of a traditional name for his historical process, but imho it deserves one.
02:03 mircea_popescu conceivably.
02:04 asciilifeform *this historical
02:04 * asciilifeform bbl, bedtime
02:04 mircea_popescu i dunno, fucking with the tomb of tal'rasha
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08:07 mircea_popescu ^ iran, fancy that.
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10:00 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/in-scams-today-disk-less-terminal-sa-dba-laesquinadelamazmorra/ << Trilema - In scams today, Disk Less Terminal SA dba "laesquinadelamazmorra"
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10:35 * BingoBoingo suspects nation scam is simple effort to hijack tribal tendancies for gr8 tragedy
10:40 mircea_popescu certainly fits observed record.
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11:13 asciilifeform in other non-news, northkr pr0n, http://red-sovet.su/post/29932/walk-around-the-north-korean-network
11:13 asciilifeform ( text is a snoar, scroll to pics )
11:16 * mircea_popescu scrolls
11:16 mircea_popescu i do not understand why all the girls are old ugly and dressed in this porn ?
11:16 mircea_popescu http://68.media.tumblr.com/2cd87e3f3bad357bf5e1d68d67069f2d/tumblr_obpp2tZzta1s71ndao1_1280.jpg << better porn.
11:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform seriously now, what's with the syncrhonized glass clinking, is this one of those mass weddings or something ? scientology run event ?
11:18 asciilifeform hey, asia. martians.
11:19 mircea_popescu the waitresses have nice tits and terrible skirts.
11:19 mircea_popescu i expect this pretty much summarizes north korea altogether.
11:20 mircea_popescu aaanyway, must be one helluva trip for good soviet, it looks exactly like what su'd have been in 2017 had everyone involved been braindamaged enough to permit it to continue past 88.
11:21 mircea_popescu including the terrible apples and all the food fixation of an evidently hungry people.
11:21 asciilifeform i especially luvvv the usual american retort 'over where they didn't let the tourist go, they have zimbabwe, ruins, zombies'. as if, e.g., baltimore, did not look like this.
11:22 mircea_popescu my objection is that if i invited any of those girls with nice tits to my hotel room she wouldn't have sense enough to strip while walking the hallway.
11:22 asciilifeform no shit, hungy, they only recently came out of latest usg-organized famine, 90s
11:23 asciilifeform *hungry
11:23 mircea_popescu it's funny how you don't regard the is-organized rape of the us as is-organized but you DO regard the best korea-organized famine of best korea as us organized.
11:24 asciilifeform who blockaded usa , again ? land, sea, air
11:24 asciilifeform ?
11:25 asciilifeform picture if martians bombed everyone who paid for usa exports .
11:25 mircea_popescu who bombed china ?
11:25 asciilifeform nobody , since the chinese built sovereigntytrons
11:26 mircea_popescu it's also their very largest trade partner by huge margin.
11:26 asciilifeform ~only afaik
11:26 mircea_popescu so then what are you on about ?
11:27 asciilifeform the chinese are reluctant partners.
11:27 mircea_popescu ...
11:28 asciilifeform they, afaik, would rather that 'korea problem' quietly evaporate.
11:30 mircea_popescu someone would not rather the usg problem quietly evaporate ?
11:31 mircea_popescu what, you imagine if tomorrow there were simply a hole in the ocean where the us stood anyone'd miss them ?
11:31 mircea_popescu nobody'd miss them, don't kid yourself.
11:31 asciilifeform now that'd be something!
11:32 asciilifeform nao if only problems quietly evaporated, ever.
11:34 asciilifeform for instance, squirrels have dug a tunnel into my wall, it would be great if they disappeared suddenly. but they won't, will have to get specialists
11:38 mircea_popescu o.O
11:38 mircea_popescu are they deposing nuts with the first bank of alf ?
11:42 asciilifeform devil knows
11:43 asciilifeform took me forever to even find the hole, was behind a gutter, on roof
11:44 asciilifeform owner of bldg: 'get removers, then invoice'. takes forever, tho, still waiting.
11:45 asciilifeform these cardboard dwellings , they take heroic efforts simply to keep from coming apart.
11:45 asciilifeform under pressure from such thing even as squirrel.
11:48 mircea_popescu i must confess it's first thing i hear man's dwelling under threat from squirrel.
11:48 mircea_popescu first time*
11:48 diana_coman alternatively, get an owl I suppose
11:49 mircea_popescu ahahaha
11:50 asciilifeform i'd buy ten.
11:58 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644558 << cr sounds moar and moar argentine every day? ( but... with slightly better cheese
11:58 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 14:00 deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/in-scams-today-disk-less-terminal-sa-dba-laesquinadelamazmorra/ << Trilema - In scams today, Disk Less Terminal SA dba "laesquinadelamazmorra"
11:59 asciilifeform ? )
12:01 mircea_popescu i did think that dude is likely ag expat.
12:01 mircea_popescu but no, the country is fine. bars, open!
12:01 mircea_popescu they are poor, of course.
12:09 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> for instance, squirrels have dug a tunnel into my wall, it would be great if they disappeared suddenly. but they won't, will have to get specialists << THere's a version of polyurethane foam marketed for this purpose.
12:10 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> these cardboard dwellings , they take heroic efforts simply to keep from coming apart. << The general movement seems to be converting the cardboard into polyurethane in place at sucker's expense
12:10 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: aha, already used. result: new hole.
12:11 asciilifeform gotta kill the colony, the queen, or however it worx.
12:11 BingoBoingo Ah, yeah. Apparently D-con is popular for this purpose as are veteran barn cats
12:11 asciilifeform dozen orbiting cats, apparently 0 help.
12:12 asciilifeform i've never even seen these fat hogs, climb a roof.
12:12 BingoBoingo Wrong kind of cats. Urban cats
12:13 BingoBoingo You need a redneck kitty that ain't going to let any of those coons/squirrels/mice onto kitty's land
12:18 BingoBoingo Common theme of "ode to barn cat" postings is week after mourning presumed loss of barncat, barn cat returns from spec ops mission of murder
12:19 mircea_popescu lol
12:21 BingoBoingo First rule of barn cat is you feed them well so that they do not try to ration their murder in instead recreate in their death skills
12:21 BingoBoingo Second rule of barn cat, is you wait for barncat to approach you for petting.
12:30 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: If you do not wish to travel to civilized lands in search of barncat other things squirrels hate include OC spray and .22 LR
12:35 BingoBoingo In other pest control problems https://archive.is/gaKxL
12:44 BingoBoingo Still more pest control http://www.returnofkings.com/119492/antifa-gets-destroyed-by-right-wing-safety-squads-in-berkeley
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13:23 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: lol, sprays into house ?! and .22 may as well be dynamite, where i live
13:23 asciilifeform ( though quiet air rifle might work. still quite a bit like squashing individual ants, to control ant problem. 99% of the time the beasts aren't in the open air, where one might draw a bead on them )
13:27 asciilifeform from comment section : 'Watch the clip again. Watch her stand there against that wall. You can see she is thinking for the first time in her adult life about REALITY, not the fantasy she has been dreaming her life was all about.'
13:29 asciilifeform 'I don't know what happened to Trump. Some muse he may be drugged and we would never know it and it makes sense. The world watched this man for two years to election day. And after Jan 20th, we watched him proceed immediately to walk his talk. Then... in like 24hrs... a full 180. If not drugs and mind control, there is always the secret grassy knoll footage of Kennedy's head being blown off to help Trump "get the message."'
13:29 asciilifeform lulzy.
13:37 mircea_popescu heh
13:37 mircea_popescu how about don't elect 70yos.
13:38 asciilifeform 'elect'
13:38 mircea_popescu eh wouldja stop already.
13:38 asciilifeform there wasn't a 30yo on the ballot, what.
13:38 asciilifeform i checked.
13:38 mircea_popescu ah.
13:39 asciilifeform we have perfectly good elections here of the presorted 70y.o's. just like in the other su.
13:40 mircea_popescu myah.
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/81831C6E8476ADF6D95F869D65330BAA462CE6D7B442AB83077A0D98548DE9BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1602...0837 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '209.131.117.10 (ssh-rsa key from 209.131.117.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (aaa1.dgram.net. US NY)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/81831C6E8476ADF6D95F869D65330BAA462CE6D7B442AB83077A0D98548DE9BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1677...1853 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '209.131.117.10 (ssh-rsa key from 209.131.117.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (aaa1.dgram.net. US NY)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CF93649AC225B58AA0456CF8DA98FA588E8453CACE17A1D461D4FDDCB2FF1A18 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1741...4817 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.210.162.147 (ssh-rsa key from 210.210.162.147 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (210.210.162.147.cbn.net.id. ID JK)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CF93649AC225B58AA0456CF8DA98FA588E8453CACE17A1D461D4FDDCB2FF1A18 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1417...3453 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.210.162.147 (ssh-rsa key from 210.210.162.147 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (210.210.162.147.cbn.net.id. ID JK)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/01455705F0486015FF171CA50A4981C16D62C238C5FC70DAA16CC5D24DC3BC84 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1576...4113 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.174.84.173 (ssh-rsa key from 88.174.84.173 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (via95-1-88-174-84-173.fbx.proxad.net. FR J 95)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/01455705F0486015FF171CA50A4981C16D62C238C5FC70DAA16CC5D24DC3BC84 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1746...5073 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '88.174.84.173 (ssh-rsa key from 88.174.84.173 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (via95-1-88-174-84-173.fbx.proxad.net. FR J 95)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7AD0C288DAC0088B7CAF1EDB0BE90720348D4E4C5949D54F3FDCD5511342C249 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1484...6029 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.222.33.5 (ssh-rsa key from 213.222.33.5 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown BG)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7AD0C288DAC0088B7CAF1EDB0BE90720348D4E4C5949D54F3FDCD5511342C249 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1623...2089 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '213.222.33.5 (ssh-rsa key from 213.222.33.5 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown BG)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A1647B55DEE35AAD8F888A4E8AE24333DAE40CDC1C27E6EA1DC19917D4D82C5C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1667...9797 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '69.55.234.228 (ssh-rsa key from 69.55.234.228 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (web1.bookoo.com. US)
13:45 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A1647B55DEE35AAD8F888A4E8AE24333DAE40CDC1C27E6EA1DC19917D4D82C5C << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1433...2207 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '69.55.234.228 (ssh-rsa key from 69.55.234.228 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (web1.bookoo.com. US)
13:45 asciilifeform turns out thing was down, ddosed to death, for a spell.
13:47 asciilifeform the postgresql nonsense is infuriating.
13:51 asciilifeform http://web1.bookoo.com << 'Hi. Welcome to TEST Bookoo! Our fantabulerrific online yard sale in TEST' >> looks like a faux alibaba
13:53 ben_vulpes craigslist for the maga demo?
13:54 asciilifeform nfi
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15:58 mats http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldunne/2017/02/19/rats-new-cars-soy-coated-wires-give-rodents-plenty-to-chew-on
16:05 asciilifeform 'Some newer model cars use materials like soy that are more biodegradable than plastics. It's all part of an effort to make car parts more environmentally-friendly. A Volvo service representative at a Volvo dealer in Michigan confirmed some instances of chewed wires, though they "mostly occurred in rural areas -- not cities." A Volvo spokesperson said that an "initial investigation [into the subject] did not return any substantive info
16:05 asciilifeform lulz
16:06 asciilifeform envirowhinerism - expensive, shoddy, deadly. (tm)(r)(uncle al)
16:07 asciilifeform and, of course, 'inflation dun exist, terrorist. and here, buy a 40,000$ auto with plastic body and soy wires.'
16:09 asciilifeform and if rats won't chew through the 400$ soy wires, the engine comp will auto-destruct ( sop in obummer-era units ) in 5y
16:18 asciilifeform re: 'biodegradable' -- see also http://btcbase.org/log/2014-05-26#690046 thread.
16:18 a111 Logged on 2014-05-26 21:42 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reminds me of a time when i stowed some stuff in plastic garbage bags, then discovered they were... biodegradable. turned to astonishing quantity of dust. when vacuuming old flat, found fragments - years after the fact.
16:19 asciilifeform and every day that an auto lasts past its purchase credit being fully paid in -- is a bug , from lizard pov.
16:21 * asciilifeform knows several people who ended up throwing one out either ~immediately after, or even prior to, the expiration of the magic 5y timer.
16:22 asciilifeform from magically-unfixable ('this is the 7th replacement engine comp and now they last 2 hours only') boojums.
16:24 asciilifeform shit however much you want on su, but their card were ~eternal~ -- in the sense of being repairable, theoretically for ever, and with common 20th c. tooling.
16:25 asciilifeform 'lada' in cuba will be on the road when the last toyota made post-'08 is scrapped.
16:25 asciilifeform *cars were
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16:41 mod6 not sure if I mentioned yesterday, but I did start a collection of another ~1Gb of entropy from the same fg as I wrote up the blog post about.
16:41 mod6 gonna see what those results look like... then will probably continue on and test the remainder of the fgs I've got.
16:45 asciilifeform neato mod6
16:45 asciilifeform i'd also much like to hear from other FUCKGOATS users.
16:46 mod6 me too fwiw
16:48 mod6 update on offline-eatblock: 431K+ and into blk0041
16:49 mod6 looks like 7655 minutes running so far. ~5.3 days.
~ 36 minutes ~
17:25 ben_vulpes in other alf triggers: https://github.com/zhemao/glisp
17:38 asciilifeform snoar
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17:54 mircea_popescu soo... i spent most of the day in the casinos, during which amiable passtime i happened to pick up the following tidbit :
17:54 mircea_popescu ford made a fucking crib. like for kids, for your house. except it mimics your driving
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17:54 mircea_popescu lights and errything. you can even register actual tracks and have it play them back to the poor baby.
17:55 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: lol, sprays into house ?! and .22 may as well be dynamite, where i live << Nah, onto squirrels looking at your house. Get picnic chair, grab coffee, and wait
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17:59 BingoBoingo "Wozniak envisions Earth zoned for residential use and Mars for heavy industry." << Tard, residences can only be so far from heavy industry or "Y no Roads?"
18:02 ben_vulpes relatedly, light industry in p-town is gearing up for some serious wailing on the topic of how all of the cheap housing for their cheap labor is ~gone and now cheap labor has to buy a car and fuel/maintain/operate/park it instead of biking ten minutes to the shabby-chic warehouse from their squalid shared living setups
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18:03 mircea_popescu can has road to mars
18:03 mircea_popescu i read a novel.
18:04 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes biking is no solution to anything.
18:06 ben_vulpes tar me not with their wailing!
18:07 mircea_popescu :p
18:09 ben_vulpes the naive counter that "cars and more land area covered with rapidly-depreciated asphault solve nothing either!" is stupidly ignorant of path-dependent processes. america is the land of cars (thanks eisenhower) and will remain so for as far out as i can see.
18:10 ben_vulpes plastification of typical vehicle mitigates against wear and tear from ever more degraded roads. less mass, less demand on the shock absorption system.
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18:11 ben_vulpes there's a very real lower bound on the savings to be delivered with this vehicle though, and they're probably going to get burnt down by the poor folks who can't afford any better than the plastic having to drive further because must ams cities.
18:22 mircea_popescu you have it re the tear issue.
18:22 mircea_popescu the decision was made cca 2006 us infrastructure will not be maintained. the plasticar is unavoidable "squeeze last drop"
18:23 mircea_popescu but the curious are encouraged to do a court survey of cases of "motorist killed by large road debris", there's been 100s of cases to date.
18:24 ben_vulpes bridges still fall down in the great again
18:24 mircea_popescu and will. "because bums".
18:24 ben_vulpes mitigation actually runs in two directions; reduction in wear on road from lighter vehicles and reduction in wear on lighter vehicles from their own asses bouncing around. human-mass will keep going up, though, which will also eat the savings.
18:25 ben_vulpes aaaand because the rail system is nonexistent, freight weight will not change and continue to rip roads up.
18:25 mircea_popescu not so much freight left. most of the "goods" consumed by average ustard being "virtual" ie ipad bonbons.
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18:26 ben_vulpes who could've predicted that a transportation system designed to give every schmuck their own car for driving as far as they can would be so expensive in the long run. who could've predicted the automatic transmission would accelerate the trend, or that robocars idem.
18:26 mircea_popescu awell
18:27 mircea_popescu whocouldhavepredicted/condolezzariceism pays well and wins no wars.
18:28 mircea_popescu in other news and fwiw -- mp's stable of expert pic interpreters diagnosed the usgtard face smashing brigades as "likely oakland, maybe some rural oregon"
18:29 BingoBoingo Who could have predicted!
18:29 mircea_popescu in any case chick getting facepunched will be new trilema header.
18:40 mircea_popescu muuch better.
18:41 * ben_vulpes loled at an old local liberal spitting on the ground when having to discuss "eugene anarchists"
18:42 mircea_popescu awww
18:42 BingoBoingo Well, Oregon was founded for whitey
18:42 mircea_popescu that dork is precious though. overweight, totally cockroach-headed female going at a very hurr durr pace right into a fist.
18:43 mircea_popescu hopefully it fractured her nose in such a manner she's still bleeding.
18:43 ben_vulpes glorious socialist republic, at the forefront of socialist innovations claimed and actual, from right to die to filthy black-brigaders messing up all of our lovely peaceful protests
18:43 mircea_popescu she's like something from a coloring book for mongoloid kids.
18:43 mircea_popescu happy poo bear or some shit.
18:44 BingoBoingo Literal "poo" bear
18:44 mircea_popescu amusingly, the trump still delivers even in his hour of senile irrelevancy.
18:45 ben_vulpes something something also "involved in 'porn'"
18:45 BingoBoingo In other roads, nearby shithole cutting spending but total tax levy still goes up 10% in one year because pensions http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article144779574.html#storylink=hpdigest
18:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes huh ?
18:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Apparently she does unshaved cunt porn
18:46 mircea_popescu who the fuck ? "police" pantsuit clown ?
18:46 ben_vulpes unrelatedly, /me testing a node compiling under c++11 rules, wild vpatch for anyone who wants to play along: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/p2A0L/?raw=true
18:46 ben_vulpes 1% compiler flags, 99% syntax gynmastics
18:48 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> who the fuck ? "police" pantsuit clown ? << Punched antifa cunt
18:49 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: this builds ??
18:49 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo link plox ?
18:49 * mircea_popescu will make a better gif.
18:49 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: unless i've made a terrible mistake, do believe it builds
18:50 ben_vulpes is there a reason to think that it wouldn't?
18:50 asciilifeform - printf("nTransactionFee = %"PRI64d"\n", nTransactionFee);
18:50 asciilifeform + printf("nTransactionFee = %" PRI64d "\n", nTransactionFee);
18:50 asciilifeform ^ wai?
18:50 ben_vulpes gcc's c++11 mode began complaining about such
18:50 asciilifeform what's the such ?
18:50 asciilifeform spaces ?!
18:50 ben_vulpes something along the lines of string literals next to template macros
18:50 asciilifeform pffff
18:51 ben_vulpes i can reproduce up the specific barf if you'd like
18:51 asciilifeform plz
18:51 ben_vulpes one sec, brain liquifier running
18:53 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: https://www.erocurves.com/venus-rosales-hairy-inked-girl/
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18:53 mircea_popescu ahahaha nice.
18:53 asciilifeform notbad.jpg
18:54 BingoBoingo more http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/before-after-antifa.jpg
18:55 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644681 << does it come with little smoke bomb so they can breathe CO even when at home, in sim car ?
18:55 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 21:54 mircea_popescu: ford made a fucking crib. like for kids, for your house. except it mimics your driving
18:55 mircea_popescu possible.
18:55 asciilifeform ( orlov had a point re 'notice, they have CO detectors in boats, but not in any passenger car. because the alarm would ring continuously. )
18:56 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ew8j2/?raw=true
18:56 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644683 << aha, i can sit and enjoy perforating own roof and walls, while i wait for 1st passing police car to shoot me in the back, 'we saw terrorist with rifle'
18:56 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 21:55 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: lol, sprays into house ?! and .22 may as well be dynamite, where i live << Nah, onto squirrels looking at your house. Get picnic chair, grab coffee, and wait
18:57 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: nuts.
18:57 ben_vulpes although wtf, perhaps this vpatch does not nuke all barfage
18:57 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Nah, that's where you deploy OC spray. If cops come you just say brown man was near, feared rape
18:57 * ben_vulpes have stale strange in tooling
18:58 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: my street is ~100% 'brown'
18:58 BingoBoingo Sit in chair, spray squirrels
18:58 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Then story is credible
18:58 BingoBoingo And consider moving
18:58 asciilifeform to where ?
18:58 asciilifeform mars ?
18:59 BingoBoingo Move to place where neighbor has productive barncat.
18:59 BingoBoingo http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/04/16/exclusive-gay-porn-kingpin-protect-america-muslim-barbarians/
19:01 mats http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644743 << white people with dreads are the worst
19:01 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 22:53 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: https://www.erocurves.com/venus-rosales-hairy-inked-girl/
19:01 mats fucking wooks
19:01 mircea_popescu heh
19:01 mircea_popescu you don't understand her search for her own cultural identity.
19:02 mircea_popescu also, she's not white. she prefers to be referred to as "buttery"
19:02 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> also, she's not white. she prefers to be referred to as "buttery" << i.e. wants to trap a black man and get Obeast on him
19:03 mats and while i'm being hateful, i think the chinese owner of my favorite chinese takeout spot sold the place because i received complementary dinner rolls with my meal
19:03 mircea_popescu also thank you very much internets! http://trilema.com <<< now has a header fit for the times.
19:03 mats probably bought by a white person
19:03 mircea_popescu mats i get free shit in chinese restaurants half the fucking time.
19:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: l0l!!
19:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform truth gotta be spoken somewhere on the www.
19:03 mats i've never seen a dinner roll in any asian restaurant in my life
19:04 mircea_popescu oh the item specifically. what is it ?
19:04 mats bread roll
19:04 mircea_popescu um
19:04 mats http://allrecipes.com/recipe/215378/classic-dinner-rolls
19:05 asciilifeform meanwhile, they built a 'whole foods' ('high end' food shop) not far from where asciilifeform lives, he went in, and saw : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/wfood.jpg
19:05 mircea_popescu lol!
19:05 mircea_popescu mats it's a CONTINENTAL!!11 chinese restaurant nao, beotch!
19:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform very typical of the "expert in metaphysics" generation.
19:06 asciilifeform let's put random wordz on the sticker.
19:06 asciilifeform and moar random wordz.
19:06 mircea_popescu who the fuck wants swamp dc LOCAL coffee ?
19:06 mircea_popescu im not even sure i'd eat the local gator.
19:06 asciilifeform it ain't local of course
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19:06 mircea_popescu nooo ?
19:06 asciilifeform coffee dun grow here, wtf
19:06 mircea_popescu WOULD A LABEL LIE?!
19:06 asciilifeform it grows in bananistans
19:06 asciilifeform 'fair trade'
19:06 BingoBoingo lol
19:07 mircea_popescu "it was a fair lie!"
19:11 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644701 << even in tiny nowhere town, megatonnes of shitburger, cornstarch 'beer', menstruettes, devil knows what else, delivered every morning. on gigantic trucks.
19:11 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 22:25 mircea_popescu: not so much freight left. most of the "goods" consumed by average ustard being "virtual" ie ipad bonbons.
19:12 asciilifeform 'man does not live' by ipad ' alone'!11
19:13 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644692 << i know of 0 evidence that the car vendors give any measurable fuck re usa roads. it's pure, unimpeded rape of the captive customer.
19:13 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 22:10 ben_vulpes: plastification of typical vehicle mitigates against wear and tear from ever more degraded roads. less mass, less demand on the shock absorption system.
19:14 mircea_popescu there's nothing there to rape.
19:14 mircea_popescu this is like saying "su govt raped colovek" gtfo ?
19:14 mircea_popescu su peon had nothing on his own. all he had - gift.
19:14 asciilifeform not so long ago -- iron cars.
19:14 asciilifeform now -- shitburger.
19:14 mircea_popescu pfff.
19:14 asciilifeform somebody ate the delta.
19:14 asciilifeform and not martians, no.
19:15 mircea_popescu if i water MY tree with beer one day and with piss another, i still don't want to hear what it thinks on the topic.
19:15 mircea_popescu only thing for tree is to be thankful watered at all, and thankful WAS watered once not watered anymore.
19:16 asciilifeform well yes, that's what american car buyer is.
19:16 mircea_popescu o wait, you say buyer because he... umm... what does he do ? "buys it" on "credit" ie govt gives him a car ?
19:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: unlike obummer-housing, car loan gets repaid or confiscation.
19:17 asciilifeform no 'forgivenesses'.
19:17 asciilifeform and repaid with +%.
19:17 mircea_popescu oh oh oh don't tell me... inca takes his own car back, used ?!?!?!
19:17 mircea_popescu this almost souinds like the peon bought it, totally.
19:18 ben_vulpes i think this gets the rest of the gcc bitching: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/k9CNE/?raw=true
19:18 ben_vulpes even funnier is the "car lease"
19:19 mircea_popescu many different flavours of "please don't notice same thing".
19:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is an appealing model but does not explain why inca would make the junk ~unrepairable, rather than sov-style durable
19:19 asciilifeform if it is plain overhead for inca.
19:19 mircea_popescu same reason it keeps bombing asphalt stretches in syria / produces "airplane" etc.
19:19 mircea_popescu makework. at the height of communism, 150% of soviet gdp.
19:22 asciilifeform fact: if you walk in with the 40k in turkeydollarz, you 1) still get a plastic piece of shit that comes apart in 5y ~exactly 2) you're out 40k turneydollarz.
19:22 asciilifeform *turkey
19:22 mircea_popescu you're also an idiot.
19:22 mircea_popescu 40k turkey dollars buys you an ukrainian split, why the fuck would you trade it for a car.
19:23 asciilifeform split?
19:23 mircea_popescu yes, i linked the paperwork coupla days ago. what the ukr split cost was 40k.
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19:23 mircea_popescu but -- turkey dollars 40k. us embassy barely scraped it together.
19:23 asciilifeform what's a split ?
19:23 asciilifeform ooooh
19:23 asciilifeform lol
19:23 mircea_popescu you know, when two groups of niggers call each other names.
19:23 asciilifeform that's rather like to say, killing kennedy cost 20cent
19:24 asciilifeform (bullet)
19:24 mircea_popescu not quite.
19:24 asciilifeform can asciilifeform go and split, say, czechoslovakia, with 40k ?
19:25 asciilifeform if not -- it dun 'cost 40k'
19:25 asciilifeform it 'costs 40k' + x.
19:25 mircea_popescu if asciilifeform can't split with 40k, asciilifeform gotta find a better shop.
19:25 asciilifeform this costs >0.
19:25 asciilifeform ergo sum >40k.
19:26 mircea_popescu i guess.
19:26 mircea_popescu get a better girlk to do better coupon clipping
19:27 asciilifeform which countries, mircea_popescu's bettergurlz split today ?
19:27 mircea_popescu berkley!!1
19:28 asciilifeform lul
19:28 mircea_popescu :D
19:28 mircea_popescu FUCK YOU IM A DRAGON!!!
19:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644685 << what industry was this, ben_vulpes ?
19:29 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 22:02 ben_vulpes: relatedly, light industry in p-town is gearing up for some serious wailing on the topic of how all of the cheap housing for their cheap labor is ~gone and now cheap labor has to buy a car and fuel/maintain/operate/park it instead of biking ten minutes to the shabby-chic warehouse from their squalid shared living setups
19:32 asciilifeform http://fordmaxmotordreams.com << holyfuck -- exists
19:33 asciilifeform (defaults to spanish, even)
19:33 mircea_popescu what you thought i was making it up ?
19:33 asciilifeform i was half-convinced it was an april1
19:33 mircea_popescu no, had lulz at all time checking out the "fox central nitro"
19:37 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644792 << ceremony is an Annapolis, md roaster
19:37 a111 Logged on 2017-04-16 23:06 asciilifeform: it ain't local of course
19:38 asciilifeform many shops roast even on the grounds
19:38 asciilifeform i thought mircea_popescu was speaking of where the thing grows.
19:38 mircea_popescu phf so if i paint the car in alaska it's a local car now ?
19:38 phf well, if you assemble a car out of chinese parts in alaska it still wouldn't be an alaskan car, but the line gets blurry
19:39 mircea_popescu the roasting coffee is paint not assembly.
19:42 asciilifeform can -- in principle -- roast in own kitchen, on frying pan.
19:42 mircea_popescu moreover, the best thing roaster can do is not ruin the coffee.
19:43 mircea_popescu this is not a substantial contribution. but i suppose assemblage is not that different after all.
19:43 asciilifeform ^ this is quite beyond the ability of -- afaik -- anyone in usa
19:43 phf well, in u.s. dominant roasting brands tend to ruin the coffee
19:43 asciilifeform i have 2, maybe 3 cups of unruined coffee period.
19:43 asciilifeform *had
19:43 mircea_popescu phf this is true but also you know, "everyone assembles the car with wheels on hood -- we do not"
19:43 mircea_popescu well... okay...
19:49 phf like many things discussed here, it is a situation of many causes and effects also known as "the whole spitoon"
19:50 mircea_popescu tru dat.
19:50 phf but what i was actually going to say, is that openbsd disks apparently weren't pressed. it seems like theo de raadt has been burning them by hand up until now
19:50 asciilifeform !
19:50 asciilifeform lol!
19:50 phf http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=149232307018311&w=2
19:50 asciilifeform phf: srsly ?! iirc, danielpbarron had aluminum disks
19:52 asciilifeform 'Goodbye CDs I'm done with you today Goodbye Goodbye Goodbye No more pre-production And no more long delays So I have peace Of mind Goodbye.'
19:53 phf "Anyone want to buy some well-used CD burners?"
19:54 phf it could be a joke, but the "well-used" part, i dunno if that's the kind joke somebody with a proper pressing plant contracts would make at the end of a long run
19:55 danielpbarron huh, yeah the CDs i have are the "real" kind that look aluminum
19:55 asciilifeform hey phf , danielpbarron , et al, any of you have any such cd nearby ? can look at it ?
19:55 danielpbarron i have it sitting right next to me
19:55 asciilifeform and 'delays' suggests -- aluminum.
19:55 asciilifeform (burned disks tend to happen same-week)
19:56 asciilifeform pressed disks -- happen at FUCKGOATS speed.
19:56 danielpbarron i haven't opened versions 5.6 through 5.8 but my 5.5 is the official kind of cd that looks shiny metal (not colorful)
19:57 asciilifeform it gets worse:
19:57 asciilifeform 'The decision is not only economical. I don't want the "friction" of trying to achieve high-quality production of collector item data CDs twice a year, in 2017. 6.0 was a high-quality CD release like previous ones, but don't want to expend the effort of producing and testing to make sure 6.1, 6.2 etc are up to that standard. It is better to call it quits on a high note.'
19:57 asciilifeform looks like he's done.
19:57 asciilifeform done so much as trying to matter.
19:58 asciilifeform 'Based upon income from contributors the Foundation performs a fantastic function -- making worries and problems disappear.'
19:58 danielpbarron speaking of.. let's see if this works now
19:58 asciilifeform including the 'problem' of non-remotelymodifiable copies .
19:58 danielpbarron !!deed http://danielpbarron.com/obsd55-cd1.iso.tar.gz.txt.asc
19:59 phf also, in case nobody noticed, 6.1 release has arm64 support, that relies on the base clang (that in turn was included but otherwise not used in base last december)
20:00 asciilifeform ugh
20:00 asciilifeform looks like mircea_popescu was quite right to tune out openbsd when he had.
20:00 asciilifeform complete snore.
20:00 mircea_popescu holy shit two in one day ?!
20:03 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2017/from-the-bounty-of-the-internets-mp-was-right/#comment-121835
20:05 mircea_popescu answer't.
20:05 asciilifeform lol, about what new autos cost.
20:06 mircea_popescu just about.
20:07 mircea_popescu better to rent the car than the tits though.
20:07 asciilifeform ever see operetta 'repo' ?
20:07 mircea_popescu dun think so.
20:07 asciilifeform http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0963194 << not mega-masterpiece. but on subj.
20:07 mircea_popescu aite
20:08 asciilifeform 'happiness lives in a little glass vial, a little glass vial, a little glass VIAL!111'
20:08 asciilifeform cast : '... Paris Hilton' << i had nfi.
20:09 phf that's the only reason i went to see it
20:09 mircea_popescu i dunno how the us bought wholesale the "straight teeth!!1" bullshit, as if anyone ever gave a shit, or as if the bidet dantures of usians are attractive to any degree. yet the "ALL girls must get proper tits" thing -- not.
20:09 mircea_popescu it's the rule in all south and central america btw, girls get new tits for their fucking quincenera here.
20:09 phf otherwise it's an awful attempt to make a modern "rocky horror", with very explicit appeal to the rocky horror crowd
20:09 mircea_popescu phf wouldn't you say p hilton qualifies as what alf discusses, xy skeleton ?
20:10 mircea_popescu ~half of euro models are very much "as close to a tranny a female could get", and have been, since ~90s.
20:10 mircea_popescu this because fucking fags got permitted into society. shoulda put lagerfeld in jail when he was 19.
20:16 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/from-the-bounty-of-the-internets-mp-was-right/ << Trilema - From the bounty of the internets : MP was right.
20:17 phf paris hilton is the stand in for the american culture of the 00's
20:19 danielpbarron !~bible lev 20:13
20:20 danielpbarron >> Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
20:21 danielpbarron see also: http://atruechurch.info/homosexuality.html >> In its decision to declare homosexual marriage a "fundamental right," the Supreme Court has completely missed its God-given purpose. Instead of being "an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil," they have exalted vileness among the sons of men. And, as the Scripture says, the wicked will prowl on every side (Psalm 12:8).
20:21 mircea_popescu i suspect the supreme court is very unadherent to the theory it has any missions from god.
20:23 deedbot deeds online
20:33 asciilifeform elsewhere: http://314256.blogspot.com/2016/01/random-numbers-from-radiation.html << KCl d00d. though his postprocessor algo is sorta strange.
20:34 asciilifeform and he doesn't seem to realize that he's only picking up the gamma.
20:47 mircea_popescu write to him!
20:47 asciilifeform i'm batting 0/N so far.
20:47 asciilifeform let's somebody not- asciilifeform , write.
20:48 mircea_popescu eh wouldja stop being shy.
20:48 mircea_popescu and in other ugly naturals, http://68.media.tumblr.com/1b0c98ac24e15cafbfec417d8df397aa/tumblr_o87l6fwY6F1v1hlnho1_1280.jpg
20:49 * asciilifeform goes 'hah, a not wholly ugly!'
20:51 mircea_popescu just the tits. acceptable at say 13, but she looks like she imperatively needs the knife.
~ 21 minutes ~
21:12 doppler pointy!
21:25 BingoBoingo <phf> well, if you assemble a car out of chinese parts in alaska it still wouldn't be an alaskan car, but the line gets blurry << Many proud "USA!!!" mower made in USA, even varied manufacters (even when accounting for companies collecting "badges"). Motors usually now made by Loncin motor company of China. But USA!!! made the mower!!!
21:26 BingoBoingo <phf> well, in u.s. dominant roasting brands tend to ruin the coffee << But ruined consistently!!!
21:30 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CEB77044FC17881EC0A5EA941010DF040E7EB3CDA3CCEADFCB876AA2597FF565 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1449...4567 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '50.84.131.35 (ssh-rsa key from 50.84.131.35 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (rrcs-50-84-131-35.sw.biz.rr.com. US TX)
21:30 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CEB77044FC17881EC0A5EA941010DF040E7EB3CDA3CCEADFCB876AA2597FF565 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1427...0857 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '50.84.131.35 (ssh-rsa key from 50.84.131.35 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (rrcs-50-84-131-35.sw.biz.rr.com. US TX)
21:41 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: printing of tshirts and stickers, leatherworking/seaming, i believe the glass fabrication folks are in on it as well
21:42 ben_vulpes none of it much larger than "cottage industry"
21:50 asciilifeform 'printing of tshirts' is now 'industry' ?!
21:51 asciilifeform somebody excavate and inform nubbins!
21:51 asciilifeform incidentally i still have a crate and a half of s.nsa shirts here.
21:52 asciilifeform originally i was ready to include them with FUCKGOATS but found that it would require even larger and costlier (shipment overseas is already outrageous, costs > the hardware ) parcel .
21:53 mircea_popescu eh, gift them to people you like.
21:53 asciilifeform already did.
21:53 asciilifeform there are many, many more in the inventory, than there are people i like.
21:53 asciilifeform ( most of whom -- already got one . )
21:54 asciilifeform i have literally a cubic metre of'em.
21:55 danielpbarron you were supposed to send some to me!
21:55 asciilifeform hmm
21:55 asciilifeform yes!
21:55 mircea_popescu so like more people. and write to more people.
21:55 asciilifeform no he's right, iirc he even paid for this, and somehow it fell through the floor
21:55 mircea_popescu also, rent a pool, get all the girls to do t-shirt only, make video, wear bling.
21:55 danielpbarron if you have 100 to spare i can throw them in with my own FUCKGOATS orders :D
21:55 asciilifeform danielpbarron would you kindly resent the qty & destination.
21:56 danielpbarron yessir
21:56 asciilifeform ty danielpbarron .
22:11 danielpbarron asciilifeform, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/foIIo/?raw=true ; I don't recall the original amount, and I don't know that I ever paid you for them anyway. I think even then it was to be a gift. I did pay nubbins, and he never sent them, and was supposed to refund payment, but I don't think that ever came either
22:12 danielpbarron this all happened right around the time of the chan fork
22:12 asciilifeform nono danielpbarron did pay.
22:12 asciilifeform crate will go out this wk.
22:12 danielpbarron lol, cool
22:22 BingoBoingo How much is t-shirt?
22:22 asciilifeform 0 + postage to l1
22:22 asciilifeform while they last.
22:22 BingoBoingo And how much is postage?
22:23 asciilifeform depends how many pieces, neh
22:23 BingoBoingo What sizes do you have?
22:23 asciilifeform pretty sure they only existed in 1
22:23 asciilifeform but not entirely
22:23 asciilifeform will have to open the crates, see.
22:35 mircea_popescu nah were various sizes
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