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00:22 phf asciilifeform: http://www.bdsoft.com/resources/bdsc.html "An 8080/Z80 C Compiler"
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02:07 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
02:07 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1066.36, vol: 5760.53544584 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1047.0, vol: 6288.11426 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1067.0, vol: 15090.9745082 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1090.477953, vol: 17215.16550000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1068.567, vol: 2227.40564737 | Volume-weighted last average: 1072.97262884
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05:28 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612411 << it's the periodic sort of idiocy ; you end up hearing it from sinking civilisations. the greeks thought "the future is female" and it survived ~1k years, as seen eg in the cathar heresy.
05:28 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 04:07 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612127 << i actually heard that phrase verbatim from the nordics more than once in the past week
05:28 mircea_popescu the universal cure for it, as deployed by the french king, is raising special forces cavalry dedicated to raping the daugthers and castrating the husbands, and billeting it with the families in question.
05:29 mircea_popescu more or less the "refugee" thing.
05:31 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612417 << quite exactly, yes. a fine example of the general principle in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612300
05:31 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 04:36 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612232 << umd is a giant h1-b clearing house, when you take away that, there's nothing left. at a recent career fair i saw huge lines of azns and indians at google and facebook booths ("our wait time finally dropped below an hour so i could get away and grab lunch")
05:31 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 00:28 mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, they won't fucking yield, mostly because being a libertard means you have absolutely nothing else, so what exactly would be the difference between yielding and blowing oneself up ? they would, isis style, if they had the guts.
05:34 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612420 << and the first time you see a lord in full regalia it's also kind of impressing ; by the time the peasants made themselves replicas and every barefoot-in-the-mud haystack princess is embroidering her "crest" on pillows...
05:34 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 04:40 phf: first time you see a physics ph.d. with a patent you're kind of impressed, but when you have ten of them in a row..
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05:52 mircea_popescu kind-of easy to forget (especially for the ustard who never knew) that there was a california a thousand years ago, and it was called languedoc.
05:52 mircea_popescu shit ended poorly for them.
05:53 mircea_popescu (after "they won't fucking yield" peacefully, without any sort of plan other than "we'll just keep on going". holocaust predictably followed.)
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06:29 mircea_popescu !~google "donas e tozas e mulhers"
06:29 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Siege of Toulouse (1217–18) - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Toulouse_(1217%25E2%2580%259318)>; Simon de Montfort, 5th Earl of Leicester - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_de_Montfort,_5th_Earl_of_Leicester>; Mulher recebe flores, mas percebe que buquê era para... o cachorro ...: (1 more message)
06:30 mircea_popescu dude how the fuck can google be this fucking useless.\
06:32 mircea_popescu seriously, 500 fucking references, all of which to one of either "according to the most detailed sources" or "according to one source", or "apparently" or "legend" ? fuck me, really ?
06:34 mircea_popescu "E tiravan la donas e tozas e molhers e venc tot dreit la peira lai on era mestiers." how about that! what fucking magic is this, i wonder! you mean to tell me it's possible to KNOW THE FUCKING SOURCES as opposed to n-th hand idle commentary of no value or import ?!
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07:45 Reuel Hi goys
07:45 Reuel guys*
07:47 Reuel When I am looking at the TRB site seals, I see more than one for each patch, does that mean code has been reviewed?
07:47 Reuel like an ok from different signers?
07:49 Reuel Also, in the spirit of what you guys are doing, I'd guess Ubuntu would not be the prefered system to run a bitcoin node on for serious use, do you have suggestions as to what to use?
07:49 shinohai Reuel: I'd say Gentoo myself, though trb *has* built countless times for me on Ubuntu/Debian
07:51 Reuel I will check that out, thx.
07:52 Reuel Yet, following the philosophy, then at some point one would want to build an OS this way, right?
07:53 shinohai I was a Debian fag for years until the Lordship convinced me of gentoo switch
07:53 shinohai Yup, whole lot less retardation.
07:54 Reuel And hardware isn't 100% safe either... ah I am drifting off anyway
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11:44 mircea_popescu lol hi goys
11:44 mircea_popescu Reuel yes, that's what it imeans exactly.
11:47 Reuel ok, great
11:49 mircea_popescu !~calc 5.7 + 1.1 - 7
11:49 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 5.7 + 1.1 - 7 = -0.1999999999999993
11:49 mircea_popescu ^look ye and be amazed at the grandiose arithmetical future of alphabet, inc!
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12:10 mircea_popescu !!rated lobbes
12:10 deedbot mircea_popescu rated lobbes 2 at 2015/02/05 20:41:28 << #eulora logs bot
12:10 mircea_popescu !!rate lobbes 3 eulora logs + auction bot, and altogether a very solid lordship candidate.
12:10 deedbot Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/ib14G/?raw=true
12:20 Reuel does trb have the bitcoin-cli rpc stuff like the other implementation?
12:24 mircea_popescu that's all it has, there's no gui
12:28 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Don't forget Qntra Qntributor http://qntra.net/author/lobbes/
12:28 mircea_popescu right-o
12:29 Reuel ah yeah i hobbied a bit with the cli before, can't seem to find it now... i'll look harder
12:29 mircea_popescu Reuel pretty sure it has a --help
12:29 shinohai ./bitcoind -?
12:33 Reuel was this built from scratch btw?
12:35 mircea_popescu what's your definition of scratch ? it was built from genesis, which is a historical client deemed closest to "no nsa involvement"
12:35 Reuel right
12:37 shinohai http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html <<< is pretty self explanatory ... phf also has a nice source viewer which is helpful for reading the code.
12:41 thestringpuller !~s EC_KEY
12:41 jhvh1 thestringpuller: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
12:42 thestringpuller !#s EC_KEY
12:42 a111 2 results for "EC_KEY", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=EC_KEY
12:45 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612462 << /me bows. I am honored to serve
12:45 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 17:10 mircea_popescu: !!rate lobbes 3 eulora logs + auction bot, and altogether a very solid lordship candidate.
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13:02 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-capitalism/ << Trilema - The New Capitalism
13:11 mircea_popescu ^ plox to lemme know what you think
13:12 mircea_popescu lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing.
13:20 trinque speaking of which, ben_vulpes, I'm hacking on the raw protocol logging thing today for a bit. dunno if you did anything there to get ACTION working with logs.bvulpes.com
13:21 trinque I'm gonna need that to finish logbot-wot (handles voicing model and ratings), after which the thing's modular, ready to release (and accept other Lords patches)
13:23 mircea_popescu pretty cool.
13:31 mircea_popescu trinque but anyway, here's a directly evident usage already, guy starts auction in #eulora, lobbesbot makes him a bill, guy goes !!pay http://bill
13:31 mircea_popescu we'll have to have a standardized bill form i guess.
13:32 mircea_popescu possibly they should exist as deeds for that matter.
13:33 mircea_popescu at least if they do we'll get to explore the "automate signed" space cheaply enough.
13:35 trinque deeding them is attractive from the operator's perspective
13:39 ben_vulpes trinque: no, i settled for hooking into ctcp-action-message
13:40 trinque nbd
13:40 * trinque shall hax
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15:46 Reuel mircea_popescu, i am geting blocks so i guess i built TRB, what would you suggest i do next? you mentioned mimisbrunnr, looking at that now, anything practical I could do except read?
15:47 BingoBoingo Reuel: Watch it sync, note and debug any pauses
15:47 BingoBoingo !~s 168000
15:47 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
15:49 Reuel sure
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17:41 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612483 << yeah, I'm fine with trinque handling the payment portion of the process, and I shouldn't have any issues getting lobbesbot to handle the billing portion
17:41 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 18:12 mircea_popescu: lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing.
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18:28 ben_vulpes https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-chat
18:29 shinohai heh ben_vulpes I saw that earlier.
18:29 shinohai I tried to install it in a sandbox, naturally it says "Oh you are a speshul case because you dont share your private keyz with us"
18:30 trinque shinohai what, that's easier!
18:34 shinohai not when your keys are airgapped
18:35 shinohai but, keybase
18:36 trinque !!up framedaddy_ghett
18:36 deedbot framedaddy_ghett voiced for 30 minutes.
18:36 trinque who is your framedaddydaddy and what does he do?
18:37 framedaddy_ghett my stack is too small to handle that chain
18:37 framedaddy_ghett oh, there.
18:37 framedaddy_ghett basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes!
18:38 framedaddy_ghett (autorecovery seems to have worked, which is always nice)
18:38 shinohai !~later tell mod6 3 builds with exp V ... Deb, African, and Gentoo. All worx
18:38 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
18:38 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/02/08/the-shallow-depths-of-the-apparent-deep/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The shallow depths of the apparent deep.
18:45 shinohai !~ticker --market all
18:45 jhvh1 shinohai: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 1050.59, vol: 9616.71752270 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 1029.999, vol: 7470.47495 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 1047.8, vol: 23089.09984459 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 1051.561, vol: 2949.29081892 | Volume-weighted last average: 1045.59576314
18:46 thestringpuller shinohai: which Deb?
18:46 thestringpuller Jessie?
18:47 shinohai Well I tested with wheezy and jessie, mod6 knows my lingo by now (i hope)
18:51 thestringpuller ah. do you have an image name for the wheezy you used? i just wanna try it out lol
18:54 shinohai thestringpuller: I honestly don't want to encourage you to continue to use Deb for obvious reasons .... but it's just vanilla wheezy
18:55 shinohai The only reason I am still testing Deb/Ubuntu at this point is to help potential noobs that have a smidgen of an idea how to operate linux
19:08 deedbot http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-circle-explore-method/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Circle Explore Method
19:13 danielpbarron heh, i typed up the xml file manually to make it do that
19:14 ben_vulpes lol, dedication
19:15 shinohai I manually made buttons to explore and return to town in xml xD
19:15 shinohai one for irc but kept messing up client
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20:22 shinohai #chainstate ..... so much better than irc.cpp
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20:43 mod6 shinohai: +1 outstanding work! thanks for testing those for me. much appreciated.
20:47 shinohai o7
20:57 mircea_popescu trinque what do you think re bill, line 1 name, line 2 amount in satoshi, all likes prefixed by a # memo field ?
20:58 mircea_popescu nothing else is needed or wanted , or is there ?
20:59 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612495 << if your trb node is on solid hardware might as well add it to the list of nodes ; otherwise there's an ample swath of thingd to do, depends what your inclination is. i suggested looking into mimisbrunnr in the context of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-29#1609460
20:59 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 20:46 Reuel: mircea_popescu, i am geting blocks so i guess i built TRB, what would you suggest i do next? you mentioned mimisbrunnr, looking at that now, anything practical I could do except read?
20:59 a111 Logged on 2017-01-29 17:56 mircea_popescu: then you can look through mimisbrunnr and see the sort of load bitcoin db implies, then you'll be in a fine position to model adequate tests for the profiling thing above
21:03 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612504 << o noes, and i thought keybase is srs bzns of crypto, doesn't try to scam privkeys out of users.
21:03 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 23:29 shinohai: I tried to install it in a sandbox, naturally it says "Oh you are a speshul case because you dont share your private keyz with us"
21:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612513 <<< o noes, but i thought internets are srs bidniss run by like professional corporates etc!
21:04 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 23:37 framedaddy_ghett: basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes!
21:04 mircea_popescu whole fucking stack consists of pictures of cats clicking upboat on pictures of dogs going "i have no idea what's going on".
21:09 shinohai I'm not Framedragger or asciilifeform levell but I've had my eye own them from inception
21:09 mircea_popescu who are them here ?
21:10 shinohai them = keybase
21:10 mircea_popescu ah ah yea
21:10 mircea_popescu in other news, checking out the latest trump news is like fucking catnip, total unintentional comedy & butthurt goldmine.
21:11 shinohai Why the insistence I upload mah pk
21:11 mod6 'easy d' lol
21:13 mircea_popescu pk ?
21:13 mircea_popescu anyway, apparently melania trump worked as a high end escort, sez daily mail ? i never had the pleasure, but seriously, wouldn't you WANT a president whose daugther is keen ?
21:15 shinohai *pk = privkey
21:17 mircea_popescu ah ah
21:22 mircea_popescu "i have nfi who thios coretta king person is". totally.
21:23 mircea_popescu i suppose it's a harsh blow to the socialist dorks to realise that no, being "an activist" doesn't mean you're someone. every yoko ono out there shudders, and that's... most of the movement.
21:25 mircea_popescu anyway. warren becoming the libertard schelling point is possibly the best thing for sanity. she's utterly terrible.
21:30 mircea_popescu selected fake news butthurt : https://archive.is/VJCqA
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22:53 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/18b0b3a13a75ed537a94955d7ec082e8/tumblr_o7yhg27Se91v0oj9oo2_500.gif
23:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-capitalism/#comment-121289
23:07 asciilifeform http://www.trobar.org/troubadours/montan/montan2.php << found by way of the not-so-great www sources.
23:08 mircea_popescu o hai. was just answering
23:08 * asciilifeform sick in bed all day, caught up on l0gz, about to return to same.
23:10 mircea_popescu there you go.
23:10 asciilifeform ty mircea_popescu !
23:10 asciilifeform pretty good bed-reading.
23:12 mircea_popescu certainly.
23:17 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Beautiful new blog layout!
23:18 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612526 << i saw this and immediately expected it to be about the spiral 'torpedo' search strategy, but nope
23:18 a111 Logged on 2017-02-09 00:08 deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2017/the-circle-explore-method/ << Daniel P. Barron - The Circle Explore Method
23:18 asciilifeform ( pretty spiffy hot-cold search algo used in torpedo and some types of ir-guided rocket. possibly generalizable to n-dimensions )
23:20 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612539 << i am unaware of 'keybase' in any ~other~ context but 'ploy for scamming privkeys out of idiots'
23:20 a111 Logged on 2017-02-09 02:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612504 << o noes, and i thought keybase is srs bzns of crypto, doesn't try to scam privkeys out of users.
23:20 mircea_popescu heh.
23:22 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612513 << somehow this unfailingly happens to every d00d who works with tmsr. reminisce nostalgically of the old days when kgb did not have to take down an entire building to plant one phone bug.
23:22 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 23:37 framedaddy_ghett: basically, whole hosting provider's network went down, unannounced, including all their services etc. funtimes!
23:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612423 << this is very spiffy phf . didja ever use 'microc' under msdos? similar.
23:23 a111 Logged on 2017-02-08 05:22 phf: asciilifeform: http://www.bdsoft.com/resources/bdsc.html "An 8080/Z80 C Compiler"
23:25 asciilifeform (though for n00bz i will point out, c compilers as a class did not get much play in the z80 days, because everybody programmed in asm (well, in codes, most folx asmed on paper , by hand)
23:25 trinque goes without saying but hey, back your shit up locally, folks
23:25 asciilifeform )
23:25 * trinque had namecheap "oh we deleted your records but you noticed, so we removed the penis. what penis, even?" while back
23:26 mircea_popescu i recall
23:26 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-09#1612534 << sounds sensible to me
23:26 a111 Logged on 2017-02-09 01:57 mircea_popescu: trinque what do you think re bill, line 1 name, line 2 amount in satoshi, all likes prefixed by a # memo field ?
23:27 mircea_popescu prolly should add line 3, block count where bill is due.
23:27 trinque makes sense. and "this is paid when the precise amount of satoshi moves to my account" ?
23:28 mircea_popescu so something like http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tOSaM/?raw=true
23:31 mircea_popescu trinque well if they're deeds then i say something like !!pay http://deedbot.org/deed-451136-1.txt and deedbot responds with 451136-1.txt paid or insufficient funds or somesuch
23:33 mircea_popescu of course im not so sure tight coupling between deeds and bills is such a good idea.
23:33 trinque right, previous threads on opposability are coming to mind
23:33 mircea_popescu of course in principle deedbot could work as it works now, take any url, if shoe fits it pays.
23:34 mircea_popescu so if user wants to deed fine, if not, no.
23:35 mircea_popescu that opens up the "omfg why did you pay bill at http://scambills.org/roflcopter.txt it wasn't me!!" to which the retort is hey, sfyl, next time don't let someone else log into #trilema as you.
23:35 asciilifeform ^ ups the ante for fleanode-diddling tho.
23:35 trinque might be a good thing
23:35 mircea_popescu for one, yes, good thing ; for the otherdeedbot can still limit payments to voiced ppls.
23:36 mircea_popescu so you know, if you pass a !!up...
23:36 trinque also payment can just challenge with OTP
23:36 mircea_popescu should yes.
23:36 * trinque planned on that
23:38 mircea_popescu there;s a lot of flexibility here. i mean i can see the value in terms of both ease of use and discovering how frail the system is to not bother with opt challenge ; on the other i can see the value in terms of solidity and so on to do bother.
23:43 trinque perhaps sensible to leave it to choice here as well.
23:44 trinque I provide some command to flip the challenge-me bit
23:44 trinque folks want to use it out on a night of drinking, can. want to hold it more tightly, also can
23:47 mircea_popescu yeah.
23:48 mircea_popescu i mean suppose what'll now forever be known as the phf problem : you find yourself stranded in tijuana with a drunk slut in bed. you want to buy breakfast. wut do ?
23:48 mircea_popescu !!up mthreat
23:48 deedbot mthreat voiced for 30 minutes.
23:48 mircea_popescu o.O
23:49 trinque speak of the diddle
23:49 mircea_popescu !!up mthreat
23:49 deedbot mthreat voiced for 30 minutes.
23:49 mthreat lol
23:49 asciilifeform cosmicray!
23:50 mthreat mircea_popescu: how's BA?
23:51 mircea_popescu as shitty as always.
23:51 mircea_popescu how's texas enjoying the pussygrab ?
23:51 mthreat ride 'em cowboy
23:51 mircea_popescu lel
23:57 trinque mthreat: whereabouts in tx?
23:58 mthreat austin
23:58 trinque ah I think maybe we had this conversation already
23:58 trinque anyhow that's a californian exclave by now right?
23:59 mthreat yeah all the rich californians coming into the third world here
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