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00:04 hanbot couldn't've hurt. really though, there's nothing like travel and working for mp to give someone a pair of disdain and derision glasses.
00:05 BingoBoingo But the forum offer a flayground full of bodies to skin!
00:06 hanbot speaking of which, i got contact lenses for the first time last week. talked to a few people here about them, then realized i'd been calling them "contact lentils" (lentejas de contacto vs lentes)
00:06 BingoBoingo Glasses only go so far. At some point gotta practice cutting.
00:06 hanbot "i'm still getting used to my contact lentils", i said this.
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00:06 ben_vulpes haha
00:06 BingoBoingo lol
00:07 ben_vulpes how long did it take the arsholes to correct you?
00:07 hanbot oh no, i realized this on my own. when out grocery shopping.
00:11 ben_vulpes mhm
00:12 ben_vulpes "oh, contact lentils, that's what they're called"
00:12 ben_vulpes did any say contact lentils back?
00:14 hanbot ...nah. but totally, a derpy tourist pidgin would be just the thing to take off here.
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00:22 hanbot anyway BingoBoingo a major lesson of the forum was that "nothing/nobody could be that fucking stupid" fails to pan out, and pretty much every time it's tested, too. i imagine scouting stories for qntra yields the same realization.
00:22 BingoBoingo Pretty much
00:23 BingoBoingo Except I don't get to play with the food as much.
00:24 hanbot do you want to?
00:29 BingoBoingo Nah, I have a hobby for that.
00:39 hanbot BingoBoingo's backcatalogue of butthurt weeds? :D
00:46 BingoBoingo lol, bipedal ones too
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01:14 BingoBoingo In other news, under Mayor de Blasio New York rents are apparently falling?
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01:18 ben_vulpes someone showed me a 'data point' that supported that hypothesis recently
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05:47 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-14#1583052 << that's nothing ; in romania she asked the clerk in the fish shop for a coupla sidewalks, because english trout seemed cognate to romanian trotuar and wtf is a "pastrav". that guy is probably STILL staring into the empty space.
05:47 a111 Logged on 2016-12-14 05:06 hanbot: "i'm still getting used to my contact lentils", i said this.
05:49 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-14#1583060 << it is, after all, how they ended up mispronouncing spanish. no, lluvia is not shuvia motherfuckers.
05:49 a111 Logged on 2016-12-14 05:14 hanbot: ...nah. but totally, a derpy tourist pidgin would be just the thing to take off here.
05:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-14#1583068 << maybe the dear hearts an' gentle people of iowa&co finally figured out new york's really not worth the hassle ? and stopped moving there in hopes of becoming a magazine writer with a manhattan mansion just like that carrie bradshaw irl genuine real person ?
05:55 a111 Logged on 2016-12-14 06:14 BingoBoingo: In other news, under Mayor de Blasio New York rents are apparently falling?
05:55 mircea_popescu i dunno, shooting in the dork here.
05:57 mircea_popescu or maybe it's all part of the summoning of the great again. new york used to be the cheapest in the werld at some point.
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07:47 asciilifeform 'rents falling' could simply mean that 2 or 3 buffetts moved out...
07:48 asciilifeform no need to even be a buffett, if asciilifeform were to move out of his street, 'rents would fall' there.
07:49 danielpbarron !~later tell trinque can i still get this file somewhere?
07:49 jhvh1 danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
07:50 danielpbarron !~later tell trinque whoops, this : http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-15#1239186
07:50 a111 Logged on 2015-08-15 22:32 trinque: shinohai: http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh
07:50 jhvh1 danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
07:54 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-13#1582850 << actually, eulora is a great imitation of life in this regard
07:54 a111 Logged on 2016-12-13 18:44 asciilifeform: or (at the risk of sounding like complete idiot, because i did not play it) alchemy in eulora, it works there, but meatspace 'alchemy' is considerably more expensive, painful, and rewards -- few and far between, and most practitioners live and die without accomplishing ~anything...
07:59 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/996F92C7319824CEFEB0D66EF1EFB5E5873B537266320EC2AFBB4C33C6534942 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1702...5683 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '5.98.38.26 (ssh-rsa key from 5.98.38.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host26-38-static.98-5-b.business.telecomitalia.it. IT)
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08:45 shinohai CoinDesk's Most influential "People" in blockchain .... #2 Butterin .... #1 The DAO hacker lmao http://archive.is/kSuld
08:45 mircea_popescu "in blockchain" loller.
08:46 mircea_popescu how quickly we forget the very reason we even have to call it "blockchain" rather than pretend it's bitcoin. tsk tsk.
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10:24 BingoBoingo OMG number 10!
10:28 BingoBoingo Ms Boring.
10:28 mircea_popescu who ?
10:29 BingoBoingo That one girl who came in with generic "bitcoingirl" nick or something like that and left. I think early 2014-ish
10:32 mircea_popescu oh oh
10:34 BingoBoingo Anyways this is a serious Coindesk problem. People ask about doing things, decide to not do them instead doing the Silbert fiatola thing, and then make Coindesk list because it is all silbert stuff nao.
10:38 mod6 such influence
10:39 BingoBoingo In similar news, Christmas Shopping for the frugal: Buy a Christmas Tree. Have the bottom limbs stripped off and cut it in half so the top becomes a small tree. Slice the now detached bottom log into disks. Score the bark on the disks with a knife. You now have a tree and tree scented disks to give as presents.
10:42 shinohai http://www.thedp.com/article/2016/12/shakespeare-portrait-removed ".....replaced it with a photo of Audre Lorde, a black female writer." Such inclusiveness !
10:43 asciilifeform 'The work by Wuille and others on the SegWit proposal, which moved from testing to launch over the course of 2016, has set the stage for what will likely be bitcoin’s critical development arc in 2017. For Wuille and all the other bitcoin developers in the world, 2017 is on course for a defining year.' << lel
10:43 mircea_popescu that poor schmuck
10:49 mircea_popescu anyway, so summer of forks is 2017 of forks nao ?
10:59 BingoBoingo Summer of N+1 as usual!
11:00 mircea_popescu heh
11:00 phf oh man, upenn, et tu, brute!
11:09 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/996F92C7319824CEFEB0D66EF1EFB5E5873B537266320EC2AFBB4C33C6534942 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1512...8879 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '5.98.38.26 (ssh-rsa key from 5.98.38.26 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host26-38-static.98-5-b.business.telecomitalia.it. IT)
11:10 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/12/googles-youtube-bans-a-government-media-outlet/ << Qntra - Google's Youtube Bans A Government Media Outlet
11:13 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo tecvhnically it's alphabet's
11:15 mircea_popescu and honestly, there;'s absolutely no need for the orc hordes to touch shakespeare.
11:15 mircea_popescu whatever the fuck that traci lorde did is exactly right for them.
11:20 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ty, piece now more accurately reflects org chart
11:22 mircea_popescu :)
11:34 thestringpuller !#s data driven development
11:34 a111 0 results for "data driven development", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=data%20driven%20development
11:36 thestringpuller ^- meh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX0ItVEVjHc not the best example cause he works on engines like ratchet and clank
11:45 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/809071452708360192
11:49 trinque how's that cultural revolution coming along?
11:51 mircea_popescu great leap forward!
11:51 mircea_popescu putin engineered famine!
11:52 trinque kanye just gotta get his retweets from black twitter and #2024
11:52 mircea_popescu whats #2024 ?
11:53 trinque that's when kanye be president
11:53 mircea_popescu haha wut
11:55 trinque after a very serious meeting with Trump he apparently chose to move his very serious run back from 2020.
11:56 mircea_popescu oic
11:56 BingoBoingo Poor Cliter, she ain't ever beating Kanye.
11:59 thestringpuller Kanye singlehandedly unleashed high frequency trading onto the sneaker world en masse.
11:59 * thestringpuller trying to resell yeezy's via bots.
12:07 mircea_popescu whart, they gonna keep her in embalming fluid till 2024 ?
12:12 trinque danielpbarron: I've got like five versions of that genbootstrap thing; what are you trying to accomplish ?
12:13 trinque got a musltronic one for example
12:14 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: WHy not? Or "life support".
12:15 thestringpuller just like disney sits in cryotube at bottom of disney world castle.
12:20 mircea_popescu heh
12:20 asciilifeform iirc there exists a musltronic python. so a musltronic gentoo is afaik in principle possible.
12:21 asciilifeform (though imho a fully depythonized one would be more interesting; but it would be sufficiently different animal to deserve a new name)
12:26 mircea_popescu eh python 2.x isn't the end of the world.
12:27 mircea_popescu might bring the same arguments against bash ffs.
12:27 asciilifeform might, and correctly
12:29 asciilifeform both scripting langs are turdalicious, heavy, and ill-defined. i will point out that 8-bit rom basics were seldom >4kB (e.g., 6502, z80 )
12:29 asciilifeform and forths -- smaller yet
12:30 trinque asciilifeform: yeah, when I run my gentoo recipe, it's usually musl unless I actually need the glibc turd for something
12:31 phf there's a pure musl gentoo build
12:31 trinque yeah, "hardened" subproject
12:36 trinque asciilifeform: I moved portage over to openbsd (which had been done once before by another) only to decide the thing had gotten far too complicated.
12:37 trinque it's a mountain of hacks under the hood
12:37 asciilifeform always was
12:37 asciilifeform when such a thing appears to work, it is because it is running on human fat
12:38 asciilifeform when the 'coolies' who kept the thing from falling apart under own weight, pack and leave -- it collapses.
12:38 phf even dpkg/apt would be better than portage (note that dpkg and apt lets you build packages from source in a reliable and automatic way, but the setup for the process is not documented anywhere, since it's supposed to be "package maintainer technology")"
12:38 asciilifeform phf: how is a binary turdolade installer comparable with portage?!
12:39 mircea_popescu time for v!
12:39 phf asciilifeform: did you miss the insides of parenthesis?
12:39 asciilifeform phf: possibly
12:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: a vtronic 'gentoo' is trivially possible except that nobody's going to sign GB of crapola.
12:39 asciilifeform nobody sane, at any rate
12:40 mircea_popescu hey, "it's a start".
12:41 mircea_popescu but non-v package manager is insanity.
12:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is actually how i ended up puzzling over 'vectorized sigs' and other, even less promising leads -- proper, honest-to-goodness signature is a 'heavy' instrument
12:42 asciilifeform you would have to be a lunatic to sign, e.g., python, bash.
12:43 asciilifeform (for any purpose other than 'i found on my disk in 2011, i swear')
12:43 mircea_popescu why?
12:43 asciilifeform because 'idiomatic c'.
12:43 asciilifeform (aka idiotic c)
12:43 mircea_popescu so ?
12:43 asciilifeform because all of it is really a game of underhanded c contest .
12:44 mircea_popescu if someone wants to negrate you because legacy pile was bad, hey, all the better.
12:44 mircea_popescu dun see why you'd want a positive rating from that mind anywya
12:44 asciilifeform there is such a thing as a signature's weight.
12:44 mircea_popescu certainly.
12:45 mircea_popescu so make a "this is my key for signing legacy c bs"
12:45 asciilifeform what ~useful~ thing would such a signature tell to you ?
12:45 mircea_popescu dude.
12:46 asciilifeform should i also sign winblows iso ?
12:46 mircea_popescu "v gentoo would be possioble except for x" "so make x" "no because of co-consideration" " so make x' and disclaim the co-consideration" "what is the point of having x' if you disclaim the co-consideration???"
12:46 mircea_popescu i dunno.
12:46 asciilifeform the point is that the necessary labour to make such a signature carry any weight whatsoever does not exist.
12:47 mircea_popescu never you mind those considerations.
12:47 mircea_popescu who THE FUCK is in a position to contest anything ?
12:47 asciilifeform the first finder of an 0day ?
12:47 mircea_popescu "oh, this foul gentoo with the foul python" "bitch, what do you run ?" "same. but i had expectations from you!"
12:48 asciilifeform incidentally i realized that it is misleading to say 'i run gentoo.' because i probably could not recreate it other than from backups of own machines.
12:49 mircea_popescu so then the "necessary labour" is... already done.
12:49 mircea_popescu what, you want to have a flood and lose it permanently ?
12:49 asciilifeform it was done to standard of 'runs', rather than 'guaranteed correct'
12:50 mircea_popescu so ?
12:51 asciilifeform asciilifeform: 'i have this here minefield' mircea_popescu: 'so clear it' asciilifeform : 'how' mircea_popescu : 'so, just walk on it' asciilifeform : 'i'd like to keep my legs' mircea_popescu : 'so'
12:51 mircea_popescu no.
12:52 mircea_popescu "i have this here race track. people sometimes die on it. I WILL LOCK IT DOWN FOREVER!!!!" "what are you, some kind of idiot ?"
12:53 asciilifeform incidentally i did think of the 'multiple signing keys' thing, imho it is fairly obvious, but even worse than my vectorizer thing
12:53 mircea_popescu i don't see why.
12:53 asciilifeform if you thought ~that~ was horrid, consider 'now which key is this? asciilifeform 's 'i kinda maybe read this' key ? or his 'this is installed on my reactor' key ? or..'
12:53 mircea_popescu wut ?
12:54 mircea_popescu they're nothing alike, seriously now.
12:54 asciilifeform well mircea_popescu suggested a 'this is my key for signing legacy c bs'. how many of these does mircea_popescu personally intend to keep ? of what types ?
12:54 asciilifeform is this to be an agreed-upon thing, or ad hoc.
12:55 mircea_popescu it's both agreed upon and discussed throughout the logs ; whenever v intended usage came up, this came up.
12:55 asciilifeform it's a new and poorly defined layer of moving parts
12:55 mircea_popescu neither new, nor poorly defined. i can do it right now and you'd never know.
12:55 asciilifeform paint an educational picture plox
12:56 asciilifeform ( and in what particular scenario does this work with 'and you never know'... this one's puzzling )
12:56 mircea_popescu i create a key, sign the whatever dump ; for all you know a new eulora player signed a gentoo legacy v root.
12:56 mircea_popescu i say hey, this may be interesting ; or someone else does. the end.
12:57 asciilifeform there is an unpleasant flavour of multiple personality disease, 'tulpa', to this, imho.
12:58 asciilifeform possibly it's the only solution, but i should like to think that it is not, it makes my stomach queasy.
12:58 mircea_popescu comes with the territory.
12:59 asciilifeform 'this proggy thermonuked my entire continent, fuck you' 'oops, you should have learned to read, notice, it was signed by drunk-asciilifeform not by asciilifeform'
12:59 mircea_popescu this conceit that signatures are somehow confusable is very strange indeed.
13:00 asciilifeform signatures, by definition, are the most obvious thing in the world
13:00 asciilifeform but their ~weight~ is not machine-calculable.
13:03 asciilifeform i suppose 'everybody turns into a swarm of deliberately-maintained sybils' is one way to 'vectorize signature'...
13:04 mircea_popescu everyone already ~is~ that.
13:09 asciilifeform i can think of no counter to this.
13:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu's algorithm will be used, there is afaik no alternative possible.
13:10 mircea_popescu it's not as bad as it seems - eg fiat's mouthpiece can now put me as #1 most influential thingamabob in "blockchain" discreetely.
13:10 mircea_popescu subversion etc.
13:12 phf we already have a method, which is a list of sha512 signed with a corresponding disclaimer. can do the same for any complicated project, like gentoo "here's the stage3, here's sigs for all the packages that you might possibly install"
13:12 phf oh i guess the idea is to v-ify all those packages..
13:12 asciilifeform phf: thread was about hypothetical 'vtronic gentoo'
13:12 mircea_popescu yes.
13:13 asciilifeform v requires machineable sigs.
13:13 mircea_popescu or more generally - any reclaimed codebase the republic intends to clean up and use.
13:13 mircea_popescu like eulora's codebase for instance.
13:16 phf also requires general solution to binary problem
13:16 trinque if I decide to clean up a bum and put him to work, I am going to have to accept the risk that he burns my damn barn down.
13:16 trinque there isn't a way to insulate from it and still bother with the bum
13:17 mircea_popescu phf how you mean ?
13:18 trinque "how do I get the bootstrap compiler onto the thing" aside other binary blob needs
13:19 mircea_popescu i thought gentoo bootstraps
13:20 trinque gotta start with a running compiler somewhere
13:20 trinque the stage1 tarball is a built gcc and whatever else is needed to rebuild itself entirely, then proceeds with that system to build the rest
13:21 asciilifeform see earlier mega-thread, re how signing a binaryball is a fundamentally un-vtronic act.
13:21 phf mircea_popescu: oh i'm just talking about yesterday's thread. half those packages have binary blobs in them, some easily removable (like images that come with docs, etc.) some not so much (like internationalization PO files)
13:22 asciilifeform the one 'blob' that is not removable is the bootstrap compiler
13:23 mircea_popescu i'd love tyo think v gentoo is blob free
13:23 phf the bootstrap problem is not trivially solvable.
13:23 asciilifeform how does c-os on c-machine work as 'blob free' ?
13:23 asciilifeform i'd like to hear, and so would ken thompson
13:23 mircea_popescu do you mind ? i'm dreamin' over here...
13:23 asciilifeform lol
13:24 phf "here's this thing that you have to cross-compile however you can"
13:24 phf alternatively "here's this 40 lines of asm forth implementation, and the rules by which you can translate it to x8664 assembly, we will use it to bootstrap proto-scheme, that will be ..."
13:25 mircea_popescu haha - eternal gentoo flame. "here's thins thing that you have to uci-compile"
13:25 trinque leaving the sinful steps unspecified might be a decent strategy.
13:25 asciilifeform now if the only usable c compiler weren't 100MB of ???????? !
13:25 trinque at least people will not be doing things the same exact way, catch same exact diseases each time.
13:25 phf trinque: ha ha.
13:25 mircea_popescu trinque fat chance of that.
13:25 * trinque goes to drink
13:25 asciilifeform compiler is ~the~ monoculture
13:26 phf asciilifeform: i think bsd people like to compile their stack with various "i wrote this c compiler in a weekend" projects, like tcc
13:26 phf it will run like dog, but it will run
13:26 asciilifeform there is a linux variant of this very thing, and yes, like a dog
13:27 phf 0.9.26 is 514k tbz2
13:28 asciilifeform i'll point out that trb is ~190k tgz.
13:28 asciilifeform has phf properly absorbed all of it ?
13:30 mircea_popescu thrice cursed running dog.
13:30 phf only for the lack of trying, but even now elsewhere i'd be a regular trb guru :p
13:30 asciilifeform c machine has fundamental, very lethal problems, and i must admit to having come to believe that 'fixing' it is an alluring and ultimately very destructive waste of minds, like perpetuum mobile
13:31 mircea_popescu kinda why we want to limit to code.
13:31 asciilifeform it destroyed 1,001 first-rate people, and will destroy 1,000,001 more. but remains - waste.
13:32 asciilifeform even with ~microscopic~ limit it is an exponential explosion of crapolade and unfixable.
13:32 asciilifeform (even msdos is not fully understood today, and this despite the ~complete~ source leaking in 1998 !)
13:32 mircea_popescu can we set aside a day for the o-woe service and be done with it ?
13:34 asciilifeform it is not 'woe' to point out that sow's ear makes for very poor silk.
13:34 mircea_popescu yes, it is. definitionally, pointing out that sow's ear makes for very poor silk when the decision to use something else is not on the table is called o-woe-ing.
13:36 phf seems like a very traditional thing to do though, sitting around talking about how everything went to shit since the ancestors went away
13:37 mircea_popescu i guess so huh
13:42 danielpbarron trinque, i'm interested in the hardened one, and possibly also "no multilib" ?
13:45 asciilifeform in terms of the pc 'sow', imho a very promising item could be a handmade scheme in asm that fits in l0 cache. the 'nic question' (discussed in earlier thread) could be finessed in some grotesque way, for instance, consider using SLIP !
13:46 asciilifeform this is actually why i bothered to clean up and post the sageprobe thing earlier this year
13:46 mircea_popescu scheme as in, lisp ?
13:46 asciilifeform maybe phf or trinque or whoever, has half of this, and now can more easily come up with other half.
13:46 asciilifeform aha.
13:47 asciilifeform sageprobe was a needle specifically made for this type of sow.
13:47 asciilifeform almost -- sewing machine.
13:48 asciilifeform (on an uncrippled box, you can debug starting from 'reset vector' - i.e. from 0th instruction on powerup)
13:56 mircea_popescu hm.
14:04 mircea_popescu if something like this could be made to spit out html via port 80 i'd almost consider moving trilema.
14:05 asciilifeform not only could it, but there's been a d00d serving up his www on a pic16f84, via slip, since 1990s...
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14:05 asciilifeform (now ~throughput~ is different question...)
14:06 mircea_popescu not even c is faster than asm
14:06 asciilifeform ~every crackpot eventually writes his asm x86 os.
14:07 asciilifeform to make it do useful work, is somewhat other problem.
14:08 trinque as with fuckgoats -> cardano, sell every useful increment towards goal
14:08 trinque dedicated gossipd hardware would be useful, even kbps slow
14:09 asciilifeform trinque: were you able to get your probe into battlefield condition, and used ? anything missing ?
14:10 asciilifeform because iirc i posted ~everything that is truly needed (other than a couple of undocumented commands, will deal with those some time later in january when 2nd crate is out)
14:10 ben_vulpes worked spiffily for me.
14:10 trinque works just fine, have yet to write something interesting.
14:11 trinque it'll take me some time to have asm skills worth the mention
14:11 asciilifeform trinque: there is one gnarly moment with those -- mode switches
14:12 asciilifeform early firmware versions barfed routinely when cpu switched modes, the last one - more rarely, but still did, it is also exacerbated by the braindamage of gdb
14:12 asciilifeform but otherwise works ok. beware of cache (can lead to incoherency between the instructions executed and what probe sees)
14:14 asciilifeform (for n00bz/log readers -- x86, unlike any chip made by sane people, operates in no fewer than 3 selectable 'bitnesses', each having registers, instructions and entire address modes not present in the other 2)
14:15 asciilifeform (and if you count, e.g., 'unreal mode' -- aka 'flat mode' -- 4! if counting smm: 5!!!!)
14:16 asciilifeform speaking of this horror, whatever the hell happened to that finn
14:16 asciilifeform !#seen kmalkki
14:16 a111 2016-10-15 <kmalkki> apu1 also really needs DBREQn asserted to give access to USEHDT IR/DR pair
14:17 asciilifeform ^ the d00d's work was 100% genuine, all of his leads checked out
14:17 mircea_popescu what became of him ?
14:17 asciilifeform i ensymbolified my sage disasms in ida using his symbol table, 100% eaten.
14:17 asciilifeform i have nfi , vanished off the earth afaik.
14:18 asciilifeform perhaps he got bored when he saw that phuctor didn't pop the amd keys...
14:19 asciilifeform ( it was from his tip that i found where they lived, and how to parse'em out )
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15:04 thestringpuller shinohai: Vitalik Buterin looks to be panicking about ETH price freefall. He's goin on about how "Internet of Money shouldn't cost 5 cents per transaction" on some stupid vine clone this morning
15:05 thestringpuller it's interesting to see the crusty remains as the waterfall continues to dry out
15:11 mircea_popescu heh.
15:12 mircea_popescu 2nd most derpopulous of the blockvines eh ?
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15:49 phf "airgapped has joined irc channel" i might've just found your opsec issue right there..
15:50 shinohai lel
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17:05 shinohai `Yahoo discloses hack that may affect "more than one billion user accounts", "likely distinct" from hack disclosed on Sept 22, 2016`
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17:27 mircea_popescu lol!
17:27 mircea_popescu technologee company!
17:29 shinohai "A Yahoo rep disconnected the call when asked if their user database was powered by Ethereum"
17:31 mircea_popescu loller
17:33 mircea_popescu so in random sadness : back when i was a kid, resolution of everything was 1024x768. today as i am no longer a kid, thanks to progress etc, resolution of things is 1366x768, which is OMG SO MUCH BIGGER.
17:33 mircea_popescu notice, of course, that a) it is the same exact height and therefore b) it is idiotically arrogant enough to imagine being so much bigger it can afford things such as... mandatory windows title bars.
17:33 mircea_popescu and so my full screen wine games from 1999 do not fit in my full screen monitors from 2016.
17:34 mircea_popescu (i have meanwhile fixed this, the gutting of ubuntu to make it behave like a silent and self effacing wife rather than a loud and demaning mistress takes a while)
17:35 mircea_popescu meanwhile there's all these "technologee companees" hard at work to come up with random shit one couldn't ever have imaged he'd have to fix IN THE FUTURE.
17:35 mircea_popescu "what do you expect from the future ?" "more shit to fix."
17:37 asciilifeform this is why folx buy 4:3 displays for their dos rooms
17:37 mircea_popescu what'd that have fixed ?
17:38 mircea_popescu 768 apparently has been decided by hitler as THE TALLEST PERMISSIBLE NUMBER OF PIXELS.
17:38 asciilifeform i dun have any screens like this
17:38 asciilifeform a reasonably 4:3 is 1600x1200
17:38 asciilifeform even my 21in tubes.
17:38 mircea_popescu how much did you pay for it ?
17:38 asciilifeform ~hundy
17:39 asciilifeform (for the eizo), tube was moar
17:39 asciilifeform and no, they aren't made
17:39 mircea_popescu i live in argentina, coupla hundred buys me this lg crap.
17:39 asciilifeform ahaha yeah if you want a ~freshly made~ one, it'll cost you a fleet of migs. to build the factory again.
17:40 mircea_popescu so what are we talkin aboot.
17:40 mircea_popescu yes, if i made it it wouldn't suck. i tell this to people all the time too, "had i fucked your mother instead of that dumbass she lays with, you wouldn't be this fucking useless. go tell ehr that."
17:44 mircea_popescu anyway, to not make this entirely pointless : gtk-window-decorator --replace kills the stupid decorations ; gconf-editor allows you to set the bottom (and top) bar position to -6 which gets rid of it.
17:47 mircea_popescu what a gfx box that wasn't made by monkeys for monkeys would look like apparently remains an open question, ubuntu's not much better than period debian from what i see.
17:48 asciilifeform fwiw ratpoison has 0 window decorations, regardless of how configured.
17:52 BingoBoingo !~bcstats
17:52 mircea_popescu yeah, prolly would figure in a tmsr out-of-the-box os
17:52 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 443507 | Current Difficulty: 2.867657668205504E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 56 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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18:16 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/MXdor/?raw=true
18:16 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
18:18 phf asciilifeform: not true ratpoison can be configured to render a 1 pixel border!!1
18:18 asciilifeform phf: news to me...
18:18 asciilifeform but i'll believe.
18:19 mircea_popescu lol legqacy
18:19 mircea_popescu (gdm MUST HAVE 1px)
18:22 phf i actually missed the title bars from ion window manager (http://www.gilesorr.com/papers/otherwm2003/images/ion.manpage.png) because xterm title escape codes is one of the easiest ways to pack a lot of meta information from pretty much any cli app
18:23 mircea_popescu if only
18:23 mircea_popescu they're jus wasted space in gdm
18:25 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/12/yahoo-leaks-again-up-to-1-billion-affected/ << Qntra - Yahoo Leaks Again, Up To 1 Billion Affected!
18:31 phf maybe yahoo leak is just a ploy to tell everyone how many "users" they have.
18:31 asciilifeform 'it leaks , ergo it must be still relevant!111'
18:33 shinohai Verizon paid the Russians to do it so they could buy in lower.
18:34 phf putin did it (c) (tm)
18:40 trinque those title escape codes have a lot to do with why I use exwm. c-x b (helm-buffers) then a few keystrokes and I can move through a lot of terminals quickly.
18:49 shinohai Roger Ver: "But a bunch of bitcoin supporters don't like centralized web wallets? That's crazy talk." http://archive.is/GHUXj
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18:59 mircea_popescu meanwhile at republican camp, my god these slave-made linzer cookies are fucking fabulous.
19:00 mircea_popescu anyone even use webwallets anymore ?!
19:02 shinohai Not anyone in their right mind, or maybe they need TradeFortress to reappear and inculcate that lesson again.
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19:20 mircea_popescu the notion that anyone ~even wants~ yahoo...
19:21 mircea_popescu whole shebang's like one of those scottish "castles", worth maybe 50k for the stone and negative however millions for its unfunded obligations
19:21 mircea_popescu in yahoo's case, all the shitheads running around thinking them,selves experts and entitled to salaries
19:21 mircea_popescu starting with the ceo.
19:23 * shinohai finds it interesting that *all these hacks* have occurred under Marissa Mayer at helm.
19:37 mircea_popescu marissa mayer 2020!
19:41 shinohai "She won't break the glass ceiling. she'll just leave the building unlocked!"
19:43 mircea_popescu prostitution is when you get paid. melissa meyer is when you do it for free.
19:44 phf before tumblr mayogendered there was a tumblr weird internet culture, thatused to post porn, internet explorer running on windows 98 screenshots, weird 3d renderings, porn, lisp screenshots, etc. basically the whole scene got destroyed by mayer with the whole "all porn is now marked as nsfw and force removed from all the search results". the weirdest, shoot-self-in-foot
19:44 phf move
19:44 mircea_popescu o btw, check out the cognates : (more, less) > (mayor, lawyer)
19:45 mircea_popescu tumblr porn still alive and well
19:45 mircea_popescu but yes, you correctly identify a hidden reference in my linkage
19:46 phf yeah, but as a "porn only" niche, tumblrs that would occasionally post porn mixed with random other found junk all disappeared
19:46 mircea_popescu ya
19:46 mircea_popescu also a very stupid "age" bs.
19:47 mircea_popescu as if teens don't wanna watch it go in
19:47 asciilifeform was it mayer who sent megatonne of gratis hardware to ftmead out of 'patriotism' ? or was it the other Great Female CEO
19:48 asciilifeform nm it was fiorina , apparently
19:48 asciilifeform i have these 2 symlinked inside my head for some reason
19:49 mircea_popescu they're not that distinct
19:49 mircea_popescu sorta obama, but in "woman" rather than "black" theme.
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20:20 asciilifeform re much earlier thread:
20:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i was apparently wrong, eizo S2133-BK is still made & sold
20:20 asciilifeform about 1k usd new in box.
20:23 asciilifeform honest 4:3 thing, ips, 1600x1200, the worx.
20:23 mircea_popescu im not gonna import it to this shithole.
20:23 mircea_popescu buenos aires ~= foxhole in vietnam.
20:23 asciilifeform have it put in the next case of strega or what was it.
20:23 mircea_popescu i do not wish for it to exist here.
20:24 asciilifeform that dire, huh
20:24 mircea_popescu let the orcs pochoclo.
20:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i have never hated a people, or anything, even vaguely in the same ballpark as i hate these mutant retardoids.
20:24 mircea_popescu if i could glass it right now, i'd glass it right now,
20:24 mircea_popescu nqa.
20:24 asciilifeform maybe revisit usa ! you'll be cured in three minutes.
20:25 mircea_popescu i don't think you grok the basics. which is understandable - nobody does.
20:25 phf asciilifeform: is it matte?
20:26 asciilifeform which basics. i import eizo here too, they aren't born in usa
20:26 asciilifeform phf: of course
20:26 mircea_popescu let me indulge your sweet ignorance. the sidewalks here are paved, which is stupid but whatever. ALL curbs contain bumped tiles all around. it drives women nuts because anti-heels landimine.
20:26 mircea_popescu for a long time we thought they were idiots in the sense, "it's for securidad - anti ice". except it never ices.
20:26 mircea_popescu today, two years later, we finally figured what they're REALLY for :
20:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i must report, these are being installed here ! just recently made mandatory.
20:26 mircea_popescu the locals are such utter imbeciles, without those things they'd walk right into traffic. THEY DO NOT KNOW road is a thing.
20:27 mircea_popescu you know those bumpers on speedway for sleepy truck drivers ? that. except for mouthbreathing bipedals.
20:27 mircea_popescu and this isn't the end of it, or the peak of it. this is just a random example out of an endless pile.
20:27 mircea_popescu it was recently established that the best mental model for "wtf they're doing" is : if they've not seen/heard of a thing in the past two days, THEY UTTERLY FORGOT IT EXISTS.
20:27 mircea_popescu perfectly fits the universal pattern of missed deliveries/meetings/etc.
20:28 asciilifeform egypt was different?
20:28 mircea_popescu i firmly believe that most of the employment turnover here is, long weekend, after which people literally forget they worked there.
20:28 mircea_popescu very different.
20:28 mircea_popescu egypt had an intensity of making a living you've not seen since jewish ghettos.
20:31 * asciilifeform can picture this
20:33 asciilifeform 2 or 3 missed printolade boats and argentina could , in theory, convert to egypt
20:33 mircea_popescu i don't think so.
20:33 asciilifeform ( iirc this nearly happened in early 2000s..?)
20:34 mircea_popescu argentina appears a manufactured africa. not dumb by evaporation, but dumb from selective fractionation. apparently all the idiots came here. worst of italians, which is already pretty well selected for fail etc
20:35 mircea_popescu basically argentina the country is the statal equivalent of the us profession of lawyer.
20:40 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-14#1583359 << hilarious idiot parade, btw, i nearly missed this
20:40 a111 Logged on 2016-12-14 23:49 shinohai: Roger Ver: "But a bunch of bitcoin supporters don't like centralized web wallets? That's crazy talk." http://archive.is/GHUXj
20:54 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6EE7B13E060CF82A9C48A50B4BDD8AFC0ADB8FADCC588CE01978A65768FD58B4 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2163...9329 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '95.129.51.96 (ssh-rsa key from 95.129.51.96 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)
20:56 mircea_popescu anyone making bets on phuctored count end of 2017 ?
21:03 mod6 as far as broken moduli? or dups?
21:03 mircea_popescu moduli
21:03 mod6 I'll say 1431 b0rk3d moduli.
21:06 mod6 lol, that's probably gonna be way low, but i'll stick with it.
21:07 mircea_popescu o.O
21:07 mircea_popescu im thinking like > 10k
21:07 mod6 yeah, certainly could be. i guess i wasn't initially thinking about the SSH keys.
21:07 mircea_popescu of course nopt much of a bet, someojne could just make 1mn bad mods and pump them in.
21:07 mod6 ah, ya.
21:08 asciilifeform ^ this is doomed to eventually happen
21:08 mircea_popescu yes. marissa meyer figuring out math, also.
21:08 asciilifeform at which point intake hopper will immediately go to wot-only
21:09 asciilifeform (not so many 'wild' submissions this year, the only notable 'pop' that comes to mind that was 'from wild', was the german thing)
21:09 mod6 ah ya
21:11 mircea_popescu o noes! but how could this be! open source is a viable model! with a billion fly eyes, all weak mods are shallow! clinton 2016!
21:14 mircea_popescu i'm getting into a very "code sharing good ; open source bad" mood over here.
21:14 mircea_popescu CSinOS.
21:14 mircea_popescu code sharing is not open source, bitchez!
21:15 asciilifeform http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3144685738025120@naggum.no.html << see also
21:17 mircea_popescu "code should be made available for review to any user ~of the appropriate fame level~"!
21:18 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/12/bitcoin-network-difficulty-up-8-16-yellen-announces-higher-interest-rate-target-hours-before-increase/ << Qntra - Bitcoin Network Difficulty Up ~8.16%, Yellen Announces Higher Interest Rate Target Hours Before Increase
21:18 mircea_popescu lol so what, increase moved ? :D
21:19 mircea_popescu anyway, i guess pete_dushenski wins that interest rate bet ?
21:21 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Difficulty up, yellen tries to premept?
21:21 mircea_popescu oic
21:27 mircea_popescu poor lockheed.
21:29 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i haven't won quite yet. i let ben_vulpes change the time window to only include trump's exact and official term, not the transition period, so jan 20 and four years onwards.
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21:29 mircea_popescu ah ah
21:30 mircea_popescu lol watch that they set it at 8.75 on jan 19th and then spend a decade shashing monotonously to 4.25
21:30 mircea_popescu JUST TO FUCK WITH YOUR MIND
21:30 pete_dushenski lmao just to make ben_vulpes even richer old joo
21:31 mircea_popescu oic, HE's the joo
21:32 pete_dushenski well, not the only one ofc. you're also one, stan idem. then there's adlai and i dunno who else we can annoint with the honourary distinction.
21:32 mircea_popescu wait me ?! i'm not even named benjamin!
21:32 pete_dushenski except for the whole "jews are niggars are enemies" angle, which i haven't quite resolved for myself yet
21:33 pete_dushenski !~google site:trilema.com i'm obviously a jew
21:33 jhvh1 pete_dushenski: No matches found.
21:33 pete_dushenski baloney!
21:33 mircea_popescu ah those are the journajews.
21:34 mircea_popescu terrrribly sorry to tell you sir we here at mp house got all cock parts. striiictly full penis.
21:34 mats i wish i was born into a jewish family
21:34 mircea_popescu in china or in general ?
21:35 mats being a chinese jew would be useful i bet
21:35 mircea_popescu chijew!
21:35 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: where does this tiny jewdick meme originate ? i can't say it, um, measures up with anectodal experience.
21:36 pete_dushenski mats: my younger brother had the priviledge of betting a chijew on trip to eretz israel. they exist.
21:36 mats how many dongs were involved in your survey, pete_dushenski
21:36 mats for science
21:36 mircea_popescu the pact of the covenant or some shit ? you know, where they cut bits off babies.
21:37 pete_dushenski mats: lol. at full attention : 1 in-the-flesh. which is really the only way to tell anything. seen tons in whatever camp shower but doesn't tell you much.
21:37 pete_dushenski !~google chinese jews
21:37 jhvh1 pete_dushenski: Kaifeng Jews - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews>; Kaifeng Jews - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaifeng_Jews>; Chinese Jews of Ancient Lineage Huddle Under Pressure - The ...: <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/world/asia/china-kaifeng-jews.html>
21:37 pete_dushenski arite. kaifeng.
21:39 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: ok but haircuts don't make you shorter. even going bald doesn't shrink a man, though a correlation obv exists with advanced age.
21:39 phf i read somewhere that at some point china top sellers were books like "how to raise a child like a jew" etc.
21:40 mircea_popescu when i was a kid my hair was like 5% of my height and i got pix to prove it!
21:40 pete_dushenski lol. being chinese is so fucking opposite of being a jew i don't even know where to start. number 1 selling book in nigeria might as well be "how to raise child like a norwegian"
21:40 pete_dushenski and i hope it is!
21:41 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i also have a solid 2" added to height atm. 'manbun'.
21:42 pete_dushenski so musk named to trump advisory panel. too soon to declare tod on tesla perhaps. or trump has short squeeze on full blast.
21:45 mircea_popescu he does a lot of this "name everyone, use half". republican dork on capitol hill also named, s.b.'s aide.\
21:45 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> ah those are the journajews. << Like mouse can mean "quiet girl with glasses" or actual vermin
21:45 mircea_popescu like.
21:47 BingoBoingo Anal-ology!
21:47 phf "And when they discover he is Jewish? “The Chinese think we are the smartest people in the world, after the Chinese,” he said. “They say, ‘Very clever, very good at business.’ It’s an honor to be Jewish in China. They say they would like to imitate the Jews.” Among the best-selling books in China this year were “The Jewish People’s Bible for Business and Managing the World” and “The Jewish Way of Raising Children.”"
21:47 phf http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/01/05/kosher-takeout
21:50 mod6 they're saying -24 deg. F/-31 deg. C here on Saturday :/
21:50 mod6 too cold to shoot birds even!
21:50 BingoBoingo OMG, almost at the -40 convergence point mod6
21:50 mircea_popescu heh it's 20 here.
21:51 pete_dushenski mod6: careful not to freeze your foreskin off :P
21:51 mod6 haha
21:51 BingoBoingo Polar penis is a real condishun
21:51 mircea_popescu i think that counts as a freejew
21:52 phf a jewbie
21:53 pete_dushenski sounds organic, that'll cost extra
21:53 mircea_popescu lol
21:56 mod6 when it gets that cold for a number of days or whatever, getting back up to 0 feels nice!
21:56 mod6 fuckin crazy
21:57 pete_dushenski mod6: and if you don't plug your cars in or park in a (preferably heated) garage, it's uber-ville for you.
21:58 * pete_dushenski was rather annoyed that his fleet wouldn't start during recent cold snap. fists were shaken.
21:58 mod6 yeah, it usually helps to plug 'em in, especially if it gets down below -25 deg. F.
21:59 mircea_popescu wtf bs engines are these ?
21:59 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/even-in-israel-more-and-more-parents-choose-not-to-circumcise-their-sons-1.436421 << somewhere around 2% of little jewboys aren't letting the mohel suck 'em off at day 8.
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21:59 mod6 anyone with antifreeze
22:00 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: it's usually the battery, not the engine.
22:00 pete_dushenski cells... freeze.
22:00 mircea_popescu hm. i dunno man, cold start in -20 ambient was a solved problem in the 90s.
22:01 mircea_popescu mah old mercs never had the issue. of course... diesel. but certainly only shitty chino batteries froze.
22:01 mod6 so, the batteries don't do that great in the cold. but the real problem is the antifreeze. plugging in the blockwarmer runs current through the antifreeze so it won't freeze.
22:02 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: -20 is no prob. it's -30 or -40 with windchill that's the issue, even with old merc.
22:02 mircea_popescu that yes.
22:02 * mircea_popescu recalls a bunch of impromptu gasoline fires.
22:03 mircea_popescu "wtf are you doing" "warming the engine"
22:03 pete_dushenski lol
22:03 mod6 when my old man was a kid, out on the farm he would put hot coals from a fire under the oil pan in like a '40 pickup to get the oil viscous enough to crank it over when it was cold like that.
22:03 mod6 or so I was told.
22:04 mircea_popescu i believe it.
22:04 pete_dushenski thankfully there is a splendid and ultra-cheap service called 'ama' here and they'll boost even the most frozen cars with what must be 1000amps, up to 5x per year for $80
22:04 mod6 cool
22:05 mod6 i hope they flood the rinks this week.
22:05 pete_dushenski ya, never needed it till this winter when i lost my beloved u/g heated parking. still adapting.
22:06 pete_dushenski mod6: that, yes!
22:06 pete_dushenski got new skates to try this season
22:07 mod6 nice. i need a new stick, then I'm ready.
22:09 mod6 if you try to flood the rink when it's -25 like that, the ice will turn out too brittle and get this weird horizontal fracturing... coming off in like sheets.
22:09 mod6 but if they do it like now at 0, then give it a chance to go into the deep cold, you'll end up with reall excellent hard ice.
22:09 mod6 fast ice.
22:09 mod6 *really
22:10 mircea_popescu yeah gotta flood it at like 1
22:11 mod6 yeah, i hope they're out there tonight.
22:12 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-15#1583509 << 0 cockchopping in su fwiw.
22:12 a111 Logged on 2016-12-15 02:59 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/even-in-israel-more-and-more-parents-choose-not-to-circumcise-their-sons-1.436421 << somewhere around 2% of little jewboys aren't letting the mohel suck 'em off at day 8.
22:14 mod6 i always wanted to moonlight as a zamboni driver
22:14 mod6 lol
22:15 pete_dushenski !~google best ice in nhl
22:15 jhvh1 pete_dushenski: Ice palaces: NHL arenas ranked - Chicago Tribune: <http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-nhl-arenas-ranked-photogallery.html>; NHL Players Poll: Which team has the worst home ice ? - Yahoo Sports: <http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-players-poll--which-team-has-the-worst-home-ice-174332400.html>; Best /worst ice in the NHL - HFBoards: (1 more message)
22:15 pete_dushenski pretty sure edm is usually up there.
22:16 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: 0 'religion' other than 'stalin is god' too.
22:16 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: plenty of religions.
22:17 mod6 pete_dushenski: yeah, i can imagine that florida has horrible ice.
22:17 * mircea_popescu skated in georgia. wasn't too bad.
22:18 mod6 im sure it has probably a lot more to do with how they operate the refrigeration system than anything
22:18 mircea_popescu fo sho
22:18 pete_dushenski mod6: ambient humidity too
22:18 mod6 air temp in the arena matters too.
22:18 mod6 yeah
22:19 mircea_popescu georgia is humin.
22:19 mircea_popescu humid*
22:19 mod6 and if you're not willing to spend the cash on the air cooling, that can make problems.
22:19 * phf has a reasonable open rink a block away
22:19 asciilifeform ( in the religion pete_dushenski was thinking of, stalin played role of 'devil' rather than god, since '53 at any rate )
22:19 phf not sure what they do to it, but pretty sure they can run it in summer
22:19 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: it was a time of 'progress'. old traditions had to be downgraded. ex nihilo 'traditions' upgraded.
22:20 pete_dushenski phf: we have year-round ice rink... in shopping mall.
22:20 asciilifeform for whatever reason, mutilating children was not in fashion there, then, fwiw.
22:22 pete_dushenski probably an experiment in seeing if socialists could still be manufaktured without choppychop.
22:22 pete_dushenski who says socialists never try new things ?
22:23 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: are you talking georgia us or caucasus ?
22:26 mircea_popescu us
22:27 pete_dushenski aha.
22:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform skopiti!
22:27 * pete_dushenski to whack shuttlecock
22:27 mod6 The Atlanta Flames moved to Calgary in like 1980...
22:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu has first-class time machine, does he know.
22:27 mircea_popescu lol
22:27 mod6 they've had hockey down there for quite a while
22:34 mod6 !~tlsb
22:34 jhvh1 mod6: Error: "tlsb" is not a valid command.
22:34 mod6 !~tslb
22:34 jhvh1 mod6: Time since last block: 33 minutes and 59 seconds
22:41 mod6 tomorrow is supposed to be 83 in BA.
22:41 mod6 that sounds so nice
22:41 mircea_popescu aha
22:41 mircea_popescu weather here is nb.
22:41 mod6 nice day for a walk down past the canal to the park.
22:42 mircea_popescu yeah i think ima go for a nightwalk later.
22:46 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6EE7B13E060CF82A9C48A50B4BDD8AFC0ADB8FADCC588CE01978A65768FD58B4 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1361...5333 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '95.129.51.96 (ssh-rsa key from 95.129.51.96 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)
22:49 phf mircea_popescu: "take everything out of Might and Personality/Intelligence respectively, pump up Personality/Intelligence respectively and Speed" is that what it's supposed to say?
22:50 mircea_popescu yea actually.
22:50 mircea_popescu cleric needs personality doesn't need int and sorc vice-versa. so that respectively works magic.
22:51 mircea_popescu fine example of how to fuck a parser, this.
22:51 phf aaah
22:51 mircea_popescu respectively = natural language DWIM keyword.
23:06 phf mircea_popescu: did you have to install any of the original windows blob dlls to make graphics not-screwy?
23:06 mircea_popescu nope.
23:06 phf hmm, poop
23:07 mircea_popescu use wine 1.9 series though. are you using it via play on linux scriptage ?
23:07 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-15#1583452 << what let, you drafted it incorrectly and i fixed it
23:07 a111 Logged on 2016-12-15 02:29 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i haven't won quite yet. i let ben_vulpes change the time window to only include trump's exact and official term, not the transition period, so jan 20 and four years onwards.
23:07 phf nope, on mac, which might be my undoing
23:07 mircea_popescu oh i have nfi about mac emulatrons.
23:09 phf yeah, i was trying to use straight wine, but there's apparently "play on mac"
23:14 mircea_popescu ah. well make sure your wine's over 1.6 or so, pre that their vc emulation is ~shit.
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