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01:25 BingoBoingo http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/10/huffington-post-dnc-staffer-screams-donna-brazile-helping-elect-donald-trump/ << Prayer Answered
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03:13 ben_vulpes rip lc
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06:09 Framedragger mircea_popescu: re. http://trilema.com/2015/trilema-burns/ : you write that "Apparently the EU is about as impotent in practice as its fame for impotence promises in theory" in response to you being able to search for that person on google.com.ar ; whereas that letter plainly states that "Only results on European versions of Google are affected."
06:09 Framedragger I am of course not disagreeing with the spirit of the matter, incl. regarding impotence etc.
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06:24 mircea_popescu i don't get it, they lack the letters a and r on eu keyboards ?
06:25 mircea_popescu are you proposing that there's some sort of substance to an url, like "searching on google.com.ar" is somehow similar to "fucking girls in the alley behind the bar IN ROUEN rather than Bekescsaba" ?
06:27 Framedragger i'm sure that google did not want to do more than was required, so they made the effects visible on the "european" version of google, for european users (the latter identified by ip address or, if logged into google accounts, selected country there; or somesuch).
06:28 mircea_popescu there's exactly no relation between url and geolocation is there ?
06:28 Framedragger so yes it's super trivial, but then - .eu can't dictate google's search results for non-european customers
06:28 mircea_popescu in the end i'm not sure what you're saying.
06:28 Framedragger hmm
06:29 mircea_popescu "but mp, in the game they're playing this makes sense to them" "okay ?"
06:29 Framedragger i got confused. basically, i think a european customer would get the same (doctored) results if they ran a search on .ar.
06:29 Framedragger basically.
06:29 mircea_popescu nonsense.
06:30 mircea_popescu this is like saying a frenchman would see the internet in french even if he called trilema.com
06:31 Framedragger mircea_popescu: fuck, you're right. "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe" when running from google eu; both trilema URLs when running from .ar. what is this nonsense
06:31 Framedragger okay, this is ridoinculously ineffective. lol.
06:32 jurov http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565865 layering "expressive" abstractions is not the only way to fit thigs into head.
06:32 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 01:17 asciilifeform: the flow charts add 0 to the expressivity
06:32 mircea_popescu the most important point here is that you for some god forsaken reason ACTUALLY THOUGHT, in your head, that if you write "whore" in lipstick on the back of your wife you're now fucking a whore.
06:33 Framedragger look i didn't have much hope for this eurolaw thing on google etc, i did however assume that to circumvent it, one would have to spend at least a few minutes (masking IP whatnot), not a few seconds
06:33 mircea_popescu this is what they mean when they say reddit makes one stupid : "social media" tends to drive this name-object confusion in young'uns.
06:34 mircea_popescu Framedragger no, you're gettin' it now :D
06:35 Framedragger my whole worldview is an array of name-object confusions. half of my mental life is like that "hesperus is phoshorus" problem
06:36 Framedragger "but if the first star is planet venus and the second star is planet venus, then.. WHO WAS PHONE"
06:37 Framedragger 'prenatal child gets introduced to semantics' kind of mental blur >.<
06:47 mircea_popescu well, it goes away as you age.
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07:04 mircea_popescu anyway, frege's own example is much better than the latter retellings in english. he used der Abendstern and der Morgenstern.
07:06 mircea_popescu you see what the anglotards did ? they replaced the names ; but not innocently. they replaced to serve the two things anglotards are all about : a fake loftyness (oh noes, really, classical names by the classically educated ? except medieval fakes ? ohoho how very cheers-vilised we find ourselves, that frasier crane will eat his heart out!) and a practical confusion. Now you need ~them~ to explain to you what the names mean,
07:06 mircea_popescu it's no longer evident like in that Nazi's naive packaging. It's good for the economy! It creates jobs!
07:07 mircea_popescu stay away from translations ; especially in philosophy (which is everything besides plumbing) ; especially when translated into english ; and especially when translated from german.
07:08 mircea_popescu stay away from translation, for translation is treason.
07:11 Framedragger mircea_popescu: good point. a fair note though, some translations use 'morning star' and 'evening star', which convey the meaning well, i think.
07:11 Framedragger though, then it's not clear that 'morning star' and 'evening star' are *proper* names (like Jacob), so...
07:11 Framedragger ugh, translation.
07:11 Framedragger (they're supposed to be proper names, not just 'table')
07:14 mircea_popescu the problem with trason isn't that you can't find a faithful translation.
07:14 mircea_popescu the problem with treason is that you can't identify which it is
07:15 mircea_popescu as per macbeth, you know.
07:15 mircea_popescu treason drives insanity.
07:17 Framedragger :)
07:17 Framedragger hm. yeah
07:18 Framedragger i wonder, maybe some of frege's stuff can be read in english in 'relative' (i'm naive yes) safety. for example his foundations of Arithmetic
07:18 Framedragger i've never read the latter, and my deutsch is bad (but in principle passable with a dictionary at hand, possibly)
07:19 mircea_popescu there's a reason the perfidious islands produced nothing in their entire history. that reason has to do to how there isn't even the words to translate properly, so either they hide behind some greek statue located in a french garden, or else they make with the common nouns.
07:19 mircea_popescu english is a fine language to do your accounting in.
07:23 mircea_popescu (and yes, i'm saying that the typical reasoning, "he said grab them by the pussy therefore he disrespects women" is not simply due to the speaker being stupid, or lazy. it's also how english happens to work, internally.)
07:24 Framedragger mircea_popescu: incidentally, any recommendation on which of the following to pick to learn as a new tongue? (sample at hand is due to some future pragmatical considerations, in terms of possible living places etc. - maybe not he last entry): french (i can't french at all), german (some knowledge), portuguese (none), russian (very rudimentary, call it none)
07:24 mircea_popescu what's your process for learning as a new tongue ?
07:26 Framedragger i haven't decided. last time it happened i was in high school. healthy dose of conversation + good textbooks, though that is not really a concrete process at all.
07:27 Framedragger i'd like to be able to read some god damn decent literature in something else than english or lithuanian (the latter is an OK language, too bad it's language of proles)
07:28 mircea_popescu languages are to be learnt from women. so go out with girls you like, pick the first one who also has a lot of booksat home, learn her language.
07:29 jurov Framedragger: if literature, then defo go for german
07:29 Framedragger mircea_popescu: nice, that sounds.. not like a chore. some very nice advice to be tried.. thanks.
07:29 mircea_popescu or french. or portuguese. or russian. but yes.
07:29 mircea_popescu Framedragger i never learned a language any other way, and this includes fucking latin.
07:29 Framedragger wowza
07:29 Framedragger that's pretty cool.
07:30 mircea_popescu (yes, the reason mp doesn't lisp may have a lot to do with the absence of hot lisp chicks.)
07:30 * Framedragger imagines mircea_popescu learning declensions by writing with ink on a girl's back
07:31 mircea_popescu lol. you know, if you drive to the starbucks it doesn't follow you actually stopped the car inside the booth.
07:31 Framedragger jurov: curious why german in particular. but hm! fair enough i guess
07:31 mircea_popescu possibly cuz that's what he read ? you certainly won't starve in any of the ones mentioned.
07:33 jurov Framedragger: was interested into psychology, went to read in original
07:33 Framedragger ..yeah i'm not going for sindarin or w/e language(s) tolkien invented. could be fun, but.. eh
07:34 jurov ebonics ftw!
07:36 mircea_popescu hey, at least learning it will go easy.
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08:18 mircea_popescu rather related, http://trilema.com/2013/the-wonderful-powers-of-make-believe/
08:27 mircea_popescu incidentally, after all the blather about how russia influenced the elections (hey, check it out, russia can do that!) where's the articles about how sweden organised protests against trump ?
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09:23 mircea_popescu and in other lulz, http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/files/2015/11/cocktail-wax_vajazzle-2014.jpg
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10:01 asciilifeform https://archive.is/R2lYH << in other noose.
10:11 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565891 << I read that they smashed cars and windows all night... in a city that went for clitler.
10:11 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 01:27 ben_vulpes: they waltzed out onto i5, the corridor from mexico to canada
10:12 trinque delicious. I hope they burn the place down.
10:14 trinque asciilifeform: this marks the coming of Great Again.
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10:40 phf "we ain't rasis, we politically conscious"
10:41 asciilifeform https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw7nqoiUkAANrm3.jpg << see also.
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10:42 phf i will admit though, i didn't expect this level of hypocrisy from the progressives, i was to some extent taking what they are saying at face value
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10:44 asciilifeform what face value. their only consistent line for past century was 'what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine' etc.
10:51 phf liberté, égalité, fraternité
10:51 phf ls
10:51 phf err
11:00 asciilifeform http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/Mark-VII << definitely not news, but of interest to folks in low-volume electronics manufacture..
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11:01 * asciilifeform wonders if these folk have their own assembly house
11:03 mats shitball.bin is at 200kb
11:03 mats this is going to take years
11:07 trinque phf: nah, didn't get exactly what they wanted, are now shitting themselves in defiance
11:07 trinque the pants belong to someone else anyway; it's self-consistent
11:09 trinque ben_vulpes: you gotta qntra this; you're right there in the action!
11:12 trinque https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/putin-applauds-trump-win-and-hails-new-era-of-positive-ties-with-us << He denied allegations of Russian interference in the election, but said “maybe we helped a bit with WikiLeaks.”
11:12 trinque top trolling
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11:36 mod6 heheh
11:46 asciilifeform mats: what's the effective bitrate ?
11:54 mats 2 bits a second
11:55 asciilifeform aaaaaha
11:56 asciilifeform soooo auditable
11:56 asciilifeform sooooo measurable...
11:56 asciilifeform in other noose, 'The afternoon rally came a day after fliers appeared in bathrooms across campus warning of pro-Trump "vigilante squads." The fliers contained a picture of men clad in camouflage holding rifles and said the squads would “arrest and torture those deviant university leaders spouting off all this diversity garbage.” University police were investigating the source of the fliers.'
11:59 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> incidentally, after all the blather about how russia influenced the elections (hey, check it out, russia can do that!) where's the articles about how sweden organised protests against trump ? << Tomorrow maybe in Roundup Xtend after I catch up on reading
12:01 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: WTF, why are they promoting hate crimes against white people dressed in traditional garb for deer season?!
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12:28 phf "these men are armed with assault rifles!!"
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12:44 ben_vulpes trinque: i am nowhere near the action, tyvm
12:44 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: sooo get in the panzer & drive!11111
12:44 ben_vulpes only action i'm remotely interested in is abdulraman sameer noorah's trial on the fifteenth
12:45 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: nah, i don't take the capital equipment out romping amongst anarchist, the antipersonnell hardware's on the fritz
12:46 * ben_vulpes deeply uninterested in broken megacorp windows downtown when there are fires to light and dance around in the rainy woods
12:59 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Fine, locate your nearest "rainbow people" camp and shit on their parade
12:59 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: mwhat is a rainbow people?
12:59 trinque looked like it was shops and cars too, not just megacorp
13:00 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: contemporary hippies
13:00 trinque kulaks I guess
13:00 ben_vulpes trinque: apparently someone got arrested carrying six 'molotov cocktails'
13:00 ben_vulpes i don't know how stupid you have to be to get caught before hefting any firebombs...
13:01 ben_vulpes and i'm not even particularly convinced they'd have worked anyways.
13:01 trinque lol!
13:01 asciilifeform perhaps he used mircea_popescu's gag recipe with plastic bottle. which dissolved.
13:02 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: ah yeah not really my scene, too straight to appreciate ritual deflowerings and assorted defilements
13:02 trinque ritual deflowerings wat
13:02 trinque that sounds kinda fun!
13:02 BingoBoingo WHich is why you go to shit on their parade and bring tiding of Trumpreich
13:05 ben_vulpes sadly, i have not done enough battle with the gods of tidiness and compulsion to be into playing with my poop
13:05 trinque wat
13:05 * trinque by now has no idea wtf goes on in oregon woods
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13:06 ben_vulpes trinque: it sounds to me like BingoBoingo wants to see hippie scat play
13:06 ben_vulpes trinque: nobody has any idea
13:06 BingoBoingo Nah, me wants to see ben_vulpes practice his oppressing
13:06 trinque they had naked sluts at the hot springs but afaik that was banned
13:06 trinque much to the sorrow of all
13:06 ben_vulpes wat
13:07 ben_vulpes which spring?
13:08 trinque what's the one due southeast in the national forest
13:08 trinque I remember there was weeping and gnashing of teeth over nudity in some facebook group back when I had one of those
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13:46 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/11/duterte-welcomes-us-trumpreich-and-looks-forward-to-warm-relations/ << Qntra - Duterte Welcomes US Trumpreich And Looks Forward To Warm Relations
13:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565968 << the funny thing being that the dnc is pretty much a sorority. i mean this very literally, a collection of girls trapped in old women bodies. AND THE CHEEROCRACY LOST THE CHEERLEADING BALL!
13:57 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 06:25 BingoBoingo: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/10/huffington-post-dnc-staffer-screams-donna-brazile-helping-elect-donald-trump/ << Prayer Answered
13:58 mircea_popescu it's gonna be funnay if they go for the whole "it's clinton's fault" thing, considering the woman didn't even want to run - THEY BEGGED HER TO.
13:59 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Anyways my early projection for next Democratic presidential nominee is Tammy Duckworth. It would have been Jason Kander, butt... his loss.
13:59 mircea_popescu i expect pelosi lol. she'd only be 80.
13:59 BingoBoingo Nah, they'll prolly be looking for "freshman senator magic" again
14:00 mircea_popescu maybe they get a fat and pimply black guy from tennessee
14:00 mircea_popescu who loses again and then it can be all about racism in "the public debate"
14:00 BingoBoingo Only if one wins the senate seat there in 2014
14:01 mircea_popescu there is that.
14:01 mircea_popescu course 2018 is also a thing.
14:03 BingoBoingo Time doesn't flow that way anymore in Murica, The Great Again is starting.
14:05 BingoBoingo Soon there will be alt-1950's except poorer
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15:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566045 << lol may take a few of those.
15:04 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 15:41 asciilifeform: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw7nqoiUkAANrm3.jpg << see also.
15:05 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566046 << kinda how the scam works.
15:05 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 15:42 phf: i will admit though, i didn't expect this level of hypocrisy from the progressives, i was to some extent taking what they are saying at face value
15:09 mircea_popescu lmao mwhat is a thing now ?
15:10 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566091 <<
15:10 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 18:05 trinque by now has no idea wtf goes on in oregon woods
15:10 ben_vulpes mwho?
15:21 mircea_popescu lol
15:27 mircea_popescu meanwhile on the dns "registrar" front, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6di65/?raw=true
15:28 mircea_popescu tl;dr: gandi.net is a fucking joke, approximately the equivalent of eating fast food in food court "restaurant", so you can pay 20 bux for the same two dollar happy meal.
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16:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fwiw i've used it for many years, it worx
16:03 asciilifeform but there is afaik nothing particularly great about it.
16:04 asciilifeform it doesn't 'price competitively' because it doesn't (last i saw) sell customers to spammers, plaster self with pestilential ads, 'park' linkfarms on paying customer domains, etc
16:05 asciilifeform the 'competitive' dnstrons -- do.
16:05 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-10#1565578 << see also.
16:05 a111 Logged on 2016-11-10 17:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a very theoretical principle, this. the mechanisms involved in the practical discussion, however, aren't nearly there. just simple cash starvation, "why is roach motel full of roaches!" "because you're paying $8 a night"
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16:22 asciilifeform 'I'm getting that for 5.96 currently. .com .net 15 each ? Is this some kind of a joke that's funny in your culture ?' << i'd be curious, then, what is mircea_popescu getting for the 5.96 $, and why not continue to buy it.
16:23 jurov gandi.net needs to join tmsr. then we can have domains for phree :D
16:23 asciilifeform ( and how many other necessary things does mircea_popescu buy at-cost, and really, there's no catch..? )
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16:23 asciilifeform jurov: there is an upstream cost, given as all dns regs are sub-leases from hitler.
16:24 jurov I see you got the joke.
16:25 asciilifeform at one point i worked for a co that supplied dns reg as part of a larger package of high-roller services (rather than, as usually seen with registrars, to public) -- the 'crown concession' was quite costly
16:26 asciilifeform (mid 6-figs at the time iirc)
16:27 asciilifeform (they also collected fat moneys for the service, i shit thee not, of watching that the domain reg does not 'walk away', because not-winblowzing, not-using-guessable-pw, etc. is Too Much To Expect from multi-$B 'tbtf' orgs)
16:28 asciilifeform this is one of those affairs bitcoin oughta be delightfully perverting to all hell, as per mircea_popescu's prophecy
16:30 asciilifeform if i misplace a benjie, hitler will not give me new one. if goldman sachs 'misplaces' domain -- hitler is delighted to give back.
16:32 phf sort of reminds of the laptop from achewood http://achewood.com/index.php?date=04022008 http://achewood.com/index.php?date=04032008
16:33 phf "you seem to be attempting to reassigning your domain, why don't you call your agent to chat about?"
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16:34 asciilifeform believe or not, 'you' (definitely not you, nor me, but some favourite son somewhere) can make $mils by offering service of 'dns reg just like the 5.95 one but we need signed letter from CEO of your corp, notarized by the board, before we'll move a domain'
16:37 asciilifeform (and, since mircea_popescu is not awake to ask this, i will answer in advance -- no, it wasn't pgptronic 'no valid sig -- goto hell'. afaik this isn't doable under u.s. jurisdiction )
16:39 jurov .SK NIC actually does this notarized bureaucracy PITA when the owner, dies or otherwise ceases to exist
16:39 jurov *it's PITA
16:39 asciilifeform iirc some eu countries even demand a physical resident agent before issuing domain
16:41 phf i once got a contract closed because the hosting provider was located in a former missile launch facility, i mentioned it during a pitch, and i think that more so than anything else that ensured the bid went through. "security"
16:41 phf
16:42 asciilifeform pretty lulzy, considering that the actual 'burglarproofing' of the shafts came 100% from the promise of guard platoon showing up <15min after alarm tripped
16:43 asciilifeform and not from the staff access door (which was armoured, but against overpressure, not crowbar)
16:55 asciilifeform in other very much non-news, https://archive.is/RAPiG , i take back everything i ever said re how opening 'tmsr church' is waste of time. it ain't, not if we can build one of THESE!111111111111
16:57 BingoBoingo AHA, where alf discovers virtue of cults
16:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform in the end i picked namesilo.
16:58 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: lel, i always liked cults
16:58 mircea_popescu we shall see about this "sell to spammers", i have exactly 0 confidence in the gandi thing chiefly because on the form they claim icann REQUIRES them to sell your data to spammers.
17:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in truth i cannot recommend any dns seller, this may well be a case of 'pay the cheapest shaman'
17:00 mircea_popescu and i don't continue to buy it because internetbs.net (ex internet.bs) decided to discontinue bitcoin payments "for legal reasons". so i told them where to stuff it, the only reason i made the fucking acct last year when i ditched namecheap was because they had btc
17:00 asciilifeform aah
17:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform exactly that.
17:00 mircea_popescu and it makes a difference, wtf, i'm going to pay ~2500 for a 1200 bill because "services" ? i wish to know wtf services they do for over a grand
17:03 mircea_popescu this is exactly that field where "take this old crust of bread, and i don't wish to hear from you for two decades", and they're ALL doing it wrong. "oh we upgraded the website" "oh we changed payment processing" MOTHERFUCKER
17:03 mircea_popescu you do not change. anything. ever.
17:03 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/11/trump-voter-lynched-in-chicago-for-supporting-the-great-again/ << Qntra - Trump Voter Lynched In Chicago For Supporting The Great Again
17:03 mircea_popescu change is the worst fucking thing. get leprosy instead, it's a better deal.
17:04 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo saying white man was lynched is racist! saying ourdemocracy valiant fighters lynched some dude is racist!
17:04 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Tell that to our urban negro!
17:04 mircea_popescu all dis structural racism
17:05 BingoBoingo Just wait for post-structural racism!
17:05 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566134 << most of the things i buy. including real estate, human slaves, cutlery, antiques, cars and machinery, you name it.
17:05 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 21:23 asciilifeform: ( and how many other necessary things does mircea_popescu buy at-cost, and really, there's no catch..? )
17:05 mircea_popescu retail is for suckers.
17:06 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: church of s is probably the most interesting item in usa, from tmsr perspective. think, they - apparently - run a complete northkr ~inside~ usa, with palaces, factories, gulags, fuck knows, possibly complete with rockets. and ~0 newspaper whine.
17:07 mircea_popescu or at least used to
17:07 asciilifeform i've not turned up any report of castle linked earlier having been sacked or sold at auction etc. but i have nfi, i never sat on its throne or in the dungeon.
17:08 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566143 << this is the core of "private banking". "do you have a lot of money ? are you too dumb to understand how wires work ? we only cost $500 a month (+some % of your every move in small print)"
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17:08 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 21:33 phf: "you seem to be attempting to reassigning your domain, why don't you call your agent to chat about?"
17:08 asciilifeform linked piece even suggests that they have something like mircea_popescu's 'human pig' system.
17:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform afaik they're running a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-05#1563151 for celebs. you pay them a mn a year or w/e and they allocate a coupla slavegirls to you.
17:10 a111 Logged on 2016-11-05 15:22 mircea_popescu: epstein is one of many such squires, let's call them. the squire's estate consists of a brothel, which may be obv multiple physical locations but generally arranged in a star pattern, a harvesting operation, his connections to the democrat party (in this case via abedin-clinton-obama). he doesn't do his own marketing, the people running the whole thing do.
17:10 mircea_popescu not terribly independent or anything.
17:10 asciilifeform well somebody kryshas it.
17:11 mircea_popescu oh, same people as epstein dude. it's a dnc outfit through and through.
17:11 asciilifeform seems a little overengineered for ordinary bordello.
17:12 asciilifeform really, spikes, minefields?
17:12 mircea_popescu (note that the dona brazile thing was IN FRONT OF EMPLOYEES. those 150 people weren't fucking volunteers, they were dorks making more money than the owner of vox/salon/what have you, not the journowhores doing all the wordsmithing. and who were expecting more. A LOT MORE. and now they don't think they'll ever get it
17:12 mircea_popescu which is the meaning of "you'll die of old age and i'll die of global warming" : you made your 50mn and i'm never gonna make my half bn.
17:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a visual culture. kinda like how they glue plastic wood imitation to station wagons and plant fake vineyards in the back of the alt-flavoured soda vending machine.
17:14 asciilifeform https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1r2T6Pq3-S1w0L4YcS1fbzvEnqHM&hl=en&ll=33.80916597520113%2C-116.8815388597464&z=12 << considerably larger, and, by all accounts, more lavish, than, e.g., camp david, or nsa hq, or, or.
17:15 asciilifeform but the fact asciilifeform finds more interesting is that they have, apparently, a complete electronic manufacturing vertical there.
17:15 asciilifeform (for the 'e-meter' cultron, naturally, linked earlier)
17:16 mircea_popescu "electronic". their thing is electric.
17:16 asciilifeform nope. read link.
17:16 asciilifeform 8-bit cpu!11111
17:16 mircea_popescu pfff.
17:16 asciilifeform >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566051
17:16 a111 Logged on 2016-11-11 16:00 asciilifeform: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/Mark-VII << definitely not news, but of interest to folks in low-volume electronics manufacture..
17:16 mircea_popescu they're not baking them
17:17 asciilifeform https://archive.is/KCw7W << well, ~allegedly~
17:17 * asciilifeform did not go there, did not bake it
17:18 mircea_popescu also, those gaypope pics tell a story of rural poverty.
17:19 asciilifeform with the shit-pits ?
17:19 mircea_popescu i'm supposed to be impressed by that handmade one-off "spiked fence" ? it's badly designed, fatally flawed and deeply dysfunctional.
17:19 mircea_popescu wtf else, they got a speaker ? some cctv ?
17:19 asciilifeform it's a dubai.
17:19 asciilifeform million for throne room, not a penny for trash pickup, etc.
17:19 mircea_popescu eh get out. it's a ranch.
17:20 asciilifeform dubai in the 'orc fantasy' sense, not in 'commercial megapolis'.
17:22 asciilifeform www.ultrabarrier.com << spike vendor.
17:23 asciilifeform they resemble oversized pigeon spikes from chicago metro.
17:23 mircea_popescu it's the antipersonnel equivalent of "scoped out" rifle. really.
17:25 asciilifeform dunno that it is such a bad deal, escapee slave can jump ordinary barbed wire with leather coats, tarps, etc., but not so easily spikes.
17:28 mircea_popescu dude... you're not serious are you ?
17:29 mircea_popescu a) they're visibly atached. you can just take them off. b) they sit on top of a dingy chickenwire thing you can cut through with a fucking nail clip c) they're on a fence already sagging from age, whose supports lay loose in soft earth ; no concrete base block nothing.
17:29 asciilifeform take off?!
17:29 asciilifeform as i understand, these are against naked chix running off into the woods in the dead of night.
17:29 mircea_popescu yes. they're clip-ons, look at the pic.
17:29 asciilifeform not tank division.
17:30 mircea_popescu they're against the nightmares of the mentally ill. they have no practical effect.
17:30 mircea_popescu it's a fucking cinematic prop.
17:30 asciilifeform vendor page had 'install with ordinary tig welder' or the like.
17:30 mircea_popescu http://angrygaypope.com/gold/gold_security_gallery/images/fence_blades_fgnd_focus.jpg << those aren't weld spots.
17:31 asciilifeform i cannot tell, from this pic, how thing was made.
17:31 asciilifeform perhaps - from papier mache.
17:31 mircea_popescu it seems to me the rail came with holes, and the "blades" came with steel spring which got forced into the hole.
17:32 asciilifeform or rivet, aha.
17:32 mircea_popescu inside rivet ?
17:32 asciilifeform keyhole rivet.
17:32 asciilifeform like the chicago pigeon system.
17:32 mircea_popescu it wouldn't be visibly loose. there's like 2mm space between "blade" and its seat on the side of the attachment.
17:32 mircea_popescu that's a good sign they're just loose there
17:32 asciilifeform strange thing to make.
17:32 mircea_popescu (you can see the sun shine through, so you know)
17:33 asciilifeform but i can easily imagine demented pope buying this, like he bought the rest of it, 'looked SOOOO K000000L!1111'
17:34 asciilifeform homes of american 'rich & famous' tend to have this flavour, or at least the parts visible from outside
17:37 mircea_popescu myeah. still, back at reality ranch, poor quality low value fence 3/10.
17:37 asciilifeform betcha it does the job tho.
17:38 asciilifeform chixx - stay in.
17:38 asciilifeform (slowed in escape for the 10 minutes or so that the chix-retention battalion needs to pick'em back up, throw in truck bed, and return to their pit)
17:39 asciilifeform fences per se are a largely decorative item in modern world -- the item which actually does the work is the microwave perimeter sensor
17:39 BingoBoingo Still does little to keep determined invader from seizing ranch and nekkid chix.
17:39 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: "lynced"?
17:39 asciilifeform introduced in '60s for -- incidentally, last thead -- rocket silos
17:40 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/11/numerous-jobs-for-the-unemployable-being-created-as-the-great-again-approaches/ << Qntra - Numerous Jobs For The Unemployable Being Created As The Great Again Approaches
17:40 asciilifeform many washington dc lizard terrariums have minimal or even nonexistent fences, but many intersecting 'lines of fire' of sensor.
17:40 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: ty fxd
17:41 mircea_popescu dude what chix even.
17:42 asciilifeform nfi! mircea_popescu did suggest that it was an epsteinarium..
17:42 mircea_popescu that place looks like you'd be hard pressed to find fresh veal. let alone anything you'd want to fuck.
17:42 mircea_popescu yes, but not in the high performance sexual sense.
17:43 asciilifeform in which, then, sense ?
17:43 mircea_popescu there's just a bunch of dorks doing what every single servant class american SHOULD be doing, which is to say "yes sir no sir thank you sir oh how great you look today".
17:44 mircea_popescu travolta goes there to decompress, when he gets fucking sick of smartass cab drivers, ironic waitresses and whatnot other "i'm only doing this until" idiots.
17:45 asciilifeform sounds like a viable business model for northkr!11111
17:45 asciilifeform 'travolta service'
17:45 mircea_popescu quite, yes.
17:45 mircea_popescu nfi why they don't do it. at some point in the late 80s they almost look like they were gonna
17:45 mircea_popescu who knows, maybne they do and it's chinese strictly.
17:45 asciilifeform 'we have 10,000,001 eager servants who will come in pants if you give'em a 'snickers''
17:46 BingoBoingo "If I wasn’t sitting in the room with my mother and my hands were not hopelessly broken and callused, I’d consider masturbating to the live feed of crying feminists at the Queen Apparent’s Headquarters." << http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5638
17:46 mircea_popescu not even. "Dear Guest, for your comfort please note that snicker bars must be split up to all employees. Please contact the nearest Whipmaster for the procedure. Thank you!"
17:46 mircea_popescu then they cut it to bits and put it in doggy bowls.
17:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i lost the transmission past "room with mother"
17:47 asciilifeform probably per customer request !! some might prefer, e.g., that the 'snickers' be on a fishing hook, on a line.
17:47 mircea_popescu lol
17:47 asciilifeform or in mousetrap.
17:47 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well I'm guessing Herr Lafond who presents Baltimore does not have television of own and for a change decided to take refuge outside of city limits rather than shelter in place.
17:48 mircea_popescu i guess.
17:48 asciilifeform i thought he lived in an old broken clay amphora!
17:52 mircea_popescu so is sanders gonna split his own faction, what's the prediction market say ?
17:53 BingoBoingo Sanders likely not long for this world seeing as he is oldest of the olds.
17:55 mircea_popescu Call it American Socialist Party, prolly get about a tenth to a third of current dem + all the "radicals" and whatnots. since the democrats are utterly fucked with all-minorities PLUS they're going to lose 5-10 more senators in 2018 (look at the map lol, it's a carnage, 6 sens up for reelection in freshly red states) so it'll be forever a case of "we are better than the dnc, we suck but they fail".
17:55 mircea_popescu it's his moment, if he'll take it.
17:55 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo all he has to do is put the cornerstone.
17:57 BingoBoingo Possibru
17:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps he can take the mummy of cpusa out of the museum and resurrect
17:57 mircea_popescu nah, communism is bad cachet. he wants socialism.
17:57 mircea_popescu possibly use something dump like "Progress Coallition" or whatever brandy nonsense
17:59 mircea_popescu and in other trickle down economics, http://68.media.tumblr.com/35156c82eb3c2dfc7fa904702e2907fc/tumblr_n0jmi4zv051s59ueeo1_1280.jpg
18:01 * asciilifeform cannot even think of 'trickle down' without thinking of mircea_popescu's latrine-pig systems.
18:14 asciilifeform https://archive.is/RAk3I << in other bizarrities.
18:16 * asciilifeform has been to this diner many times, never saw clitler. though it IS the place next to which there is a peculiar private house with iron door and 'high voltage' sign, but through windows one can see that it is not a substation, there are lights, office furniture...
18:18 mircea_popescu why do these people eat so much pizza
18:19 mircea_popescu it's not even pizza, at that. greasy shitballs ffs.
18:19 asciilifeform it was perhaps closest thing to pizza in these lands.
18:19 mircea_popescu but pizza is a poor fisherman's sustenance.
18:19 mircea_popescu literally, dirt poor, eat every other day sort of poor.
18:19 asciilifeform no argument.
18:20 mircea_popescu o wow, that heart-with-heart spiral thing is actually a "i wanna fuck preteen girls" thing ?
18:22 trinque seems like "big triangle little triangle" or heart
18:23 asciilifeform !!up the_scourge
18:23 deedbot the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
18:23 mats hes back
18:24 mircea_popescu lol "hames alefantis owns a pizzeria and is the ex-boyfriend of david brock who runs correct the record and who claimed it spent millions of dollars to pay redditards to bury qntra stories". mmmkay.
18:26 mircea_popescu "katy grannan, a photographer known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes". ahaha say wut ?
18:26 mircea_popescu must be a different katy grannan.
18:26 asciilifeform fwiw the (unofficial) main dem party b00kstore is on same street
18:26 asciilifeform as is its back-office.
18:26 asciilifeform it is wildly popular, and various 'luminaries' perform there, incl. clitler at one point.
18:26 the_scourge rehi guys
18:26 the_scourge david brock was blackmailed for nearly a million a few years back by a gay lover
18:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the politics nand prose thing ? yeah.
18:28 asciilifeform i was there just a week before tritlerday, it was full of you can guess what.
18:29 mircea_popescu jewish kids with shitty degrees and great expectations ?
18:29 asciilifeform them also
18:29 asciilifeform but i was thinking of the most self-congratulatory propaganda 'books' one could imagine
18:29 mircea_popescu ah
18:29 asciilifeform 'how america almost made the trump mistake' etc.
18:29 asciilifeform also the clitler thing with the student loan jubilee, photo'd and linked here
18:30 asciilifeform !!up scourge
18:30 deedbot scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
18:30 mircea_popescu aha
18:30 asciilifeform scourge: they confiscated all but your 300 baud modem or what.
18:30 scourge sorry folks, running irssi locally. i lost my VPNs and my bitcoin was all seized
18:30 mircea_popescu ...
18:31 scourge asciilifeform: idk i'm connected to some wireless
18:31 scourge bandwidth seems ok but it times out sometimes. might need to play with my settings
18:32 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/MeGTJ#selection-3405.0-3405.38 << Biljana Djurdjevic, if anyone gives a shit. just old enough at the time of the troubles to have involuntarily participated in the ass trade, except of course for the happenstance she was born in belgrade not sarajevo
18:35 scourge "salon d'octobre" is that a communist reference? October revolution?
18:35 mircea_popescu dun think so.
18:36 scourge Maybe it's artistic to name your crew after a month
18:36 scourge mircea_popescu: how you been? Any comments on this stenography that's popping up with pizzagate?
18:36 mircea_popescu above.
18:37 scourge um, it's james not hames and yah CTR is real
18:41 mircea_popescu "UPDATE 11/9 – Anon has learned of a password secured area for Comet Pizza http://www.cometpingpong.com/protected This is extremely odd for a pizza place. Within hours, Anon had infiltrated the servers. I’m not a hacker, so I’m just relaying information here, but it seems there is extensive security which even our best men have not been able to breach. ALL THAT TO PROTECT A PIZZA JOINT? They have confirmed the coded fil
18:41 mircea_popescu es names able to be viewed but not downloaded are video files." << i thought that part was pretty good.
18:42 scourge https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/37262
18:43 scourge ^CTR - like team. But done by Alphabet and Eric Schmidt and with 1.5 billion in budget and all of google's resources to build a "unique voter ID" on everyone
18:43 scourge mircea_popescu: where was that quote from?
18:43 mircea_popescu item alf linked above, "other bizzarities"
18:44 * scourge missed it, goes to look at the logs
18:45 asciilifeform what's interesting in the linked eric schmidt email ?
18:45 scourge anyone getting timeouts and weird stuff on voat?
18:45 scourge asciilifeform: smoking gun for CTR stuff but 100X worse and with 100X the budget and using all of google's data and psyops for the Clintons
18:46 mircea_popescu the campaign never reached 1.5bn, never employed 5k people nor ever managed to house 1k people with other people.
18:46 scourge mircea_popescu: proof? how do you know what ended up happening?
18:46 mircea_popescu it's kinda my business to know what'll end up happening 6+ months in advance.
18:47 scourge mircea_popescu: i know that. but how do you know the internal workings of Schmidt+clintons+google?
18:47 asciilifeform https://archive.is/9MwsU >> 'Sticky as a long, slow summertime fuck.' << lel
18:47 mircea_popescu like you know everything else, by echos and refraction ; waste heat and waste energy... all detection works the same way.
18:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform apparently they really are lizards.
18:50 scourge mircea_popescu: god damn you should have put a fucking NSFW on the tumblr. Or should we assume that tumblr jpgs are NSFW
18:50 mircea_popescu well... thing is moreover that relatively little of what we discuss here is either work-friendly or all that recommended for people with jobs
18:50 mircea_popescu or wives.
18:52 asciilifeform https://www.google.com/maps/place/Comet+Ping+Pong,+5037+Connecticut+Ave+NW,+Washington,+DC+20008/@38.9559497,-77.0699666,15z << lel, now full of 'we hate pedo scum!111' reviews
18:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform honestly, if this email is genuine, it does not speak in favour of schmidt's intellect.
18:52 scourge the irony is that tor+VM+cafe wifi is a recommended minimum for working with hacking a potential pedo ring, but that "cafe WIFI" is usually located inside... a cafe (which is full of dones)
18:52 asciilifeform he reads like nigerian spam forum d00dz
18:52 mircea_popescu horribly mangled mix of things on different levels and layers, he has no clear fucking idea of anything.
18:53 mircea_popescu scourge oh, you're working with hacking a potential pedo ring ?
18:55 scourge The last few weeks have shown me that the closer to the top one gets, the more stupid things you see. Globalists are a great example of the peter principle (and mabye even the gervais principle)
18:55 asciilifeform '[five star review] We're coming for you Alefantis, your organized ring of pedophiles is about to be exposed. Youre gonna burn motherf-r.'
18:55 mircea_popescu oh is this the hacking warning ?
18:55 asciilifeform it is from the 'google reviews' link.
18:55 asciilifeform which is now full of this ???.
18:56 mircea_popescu top idiocies : "ind a way to do polling online and not on phones." ; "The code developed for 2012 (Narwahl etc.) is unlikely to be used, and replaced by a model where" and it kinda lost me there.
18:56 asciilifeform ( i have nfi where they are supposed to be keeping the pedos, it is mostly a pub, full of drunks )
18:56 mircea_popescu no code reuse, check that out. ima make new shit ? to throw away in 2020 ? get bent.
18:57 mircea_popescu and least narwahl wasn't as horrifying as that orca shit romney came up with.
18:58 phf ama start leaving reviews on mexican drug cartel addresses "i'm coming for you, ese, this drug ring is over!!1"
18:58 scourge asciilifeform: the guys on 4chan are saying that kids aren't kept at CPP at all
19:00 mircea_popescu "hasta la vista, vatos!"
19:02 mircea_popescu !!up the_scourge
19:02 deedbot the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
19:03 mircea_popescu the one thing with the email leaks is just how fucking incredibly worthless all these people are. their productions are literally not worth reading.
19:03 the_scourge cheers m8
19:03 mircea_popescu if i were stuck in a situation where i had to read this crap i'd be shooting people.
19:03 the_scourge mircea_popescu: billions of dollars and big data on every mutherfucker on the planet can make up for a lot of incompetence :(
19:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha, i tried to read the clitler, rumsfeld, etc. crud and literally fell asleep.
19:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: right in my chair.
19:04 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> and least narwahl wasn't as horrifying as that orca shit romney came up with. << Amazing that Trump's less budget meant not buying landwhales
19:04 mircea_popescu it's like... motherfucker, GO TO SCHOOL! come back in six years or such.
19:04 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yep. best thing that can happen for one in the us is not having money.
19:05 mircea_popescu the_scourge notreally. it can provide an edge if the other side is just as incompetent, that's about all.
19:05 the_scourge mircea_popescu: i think the problem is too much school, not enough learning
19:05 mircea_popescu something like that. too much school that never saw school and too many hamburgers that never saw a pig.
19:05 * BingoBoingo dreams of the alphrophecy being realized. Parking on white house lawn because replacing lawn with my lawn, pls get off.
19:05 the_scourge mircea_popescu: agreed. that's why they are literally falling apart in front of our eyes
19:06 the_scourge mircea_popescu: i'm more bullish on USD than i have been in decades. at least for short/med term
19:08 BingoBoingo the_scourge: Why would Mr. T make you bullish on USD. Renegotiating national debt will raise interest rates. Especially when US has bankruptcy filing on credit report.
19:08 the_scourge BingoBoingo: alphrophecy not in the logs on either channel, what is that?
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19:08 the_scourge BingoBoingo: he doesn't. Keystone and other things do
19:08 BingoBoingo the_scourge: It is in logs. A future president drives to White house and parks pick up truck on lawn.
19:08 the_scourge !search alphrophecy
19:09 BingoBoingo the_scourge: It isn't like a bit of inflation or devaluation of the USd is a bad thing.
19:09 * the_scourge just realized assbot isn't in here
19:09 the_scourge and deedbot isn't talking to me sidechan
19:09 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-10#1565475 << The prophecy of alf
19:09 a111 Logged on 2016-11-10 16:27 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo !
19:11 mircea_popescu the_scourge see bots.contravex.com
19:11 the_scourge oright yah a dodge ram with 12v cummins, can't be stopped by EMP or nukes. I've got one
19:12 the_scourge mircea_popescu++ # helpful cunt
19:12 asciilifeform https://archive.is/45xXE << in other 'Kids born after the world went to shit...' lulz.
19:13 the_scourge mircea_popescu: ahh, double bangs. very CQB of you
19:13 mircea_popescu !~google cqb
19:13 asciilifeform 'close quarter battle' ??
19:14 the_scourge asciilifeform: yes
19:15 the_scourge you americans call it a double tap
19:15 BingoBoingo the_scourge: I'll prolly go GM, either S10 or Sonoma. Factory bed replaced with flat one of own crafting. But truck must wait for 5 kilo dollar to USd exchagne rate because priorities
19:15 asciilifeform the_scourge: actually we call it 'контрольный выстрел'
19:15 the_scourge dollar to USD meaning CAD to USD?
19:17 BingoBoingo Sorry, 5 kiloUSd to BTC
19:17 the_scourge BingoBoingo: if you want a flatbed, just get a Hilux with a bed that is shot to shit. My brother just sold one, cab was in beautiful condition except where I had let a canoe rub on the top
19:18 the_scourge asciilifeform: http://kv-journal.su/ < is this контрольный выстрел ?
19:18 BingoBoingo the_scourge: Why would I want terrorist jap truck when I can find rust American Iron to give blessing of Great Again!
19:18 asciilifeform the_scourge: it is simply what the tradition of shooting a man in the head second time for good measure is called on other side of the atlantic.
19:18 * the_scourge isn't sure that tmux got the characters perfect
19:20 the_scourge asciilifeform: you misunderstood. the double tap is both to the body. It is the mozambique drill or failure drill that adds a third to the head
19:20 the_scourge 'контрольный выстрел' is approximately "control shot"?
19:20 asciilifeform aha
19:22 * the_scourge was thinking about driving over to Ukraine and jumping in with Azov a little bit ago
19:22 the_scourge would have had to learn some of the lingo
19:22 mats lol
19:23 the_scourge I'd be happy to learn Ukrainian or Russian if it meant I could mob up with em
19:23 asciilifeform because this is apparently how it works..?
19:24 phf you just need enough mat to get by, unfortunately failure to use mat ~precisely~ will probably get you in trouble
19:24 the_scourge asciilifeform: azov takes Swedes and Texans. I'm pretty sure tactical abilities are good as gold no matter where you are
19:24 asciilifeform 'i watched muuuuch anime, now wanna join yakuza'
19:25 * the_scourge doesn't know what yakuza is
19:25 the_scourge Japanese?
19:26 the_scourge Dude they look like fucking hoodrats. What does that have to do with tactical skills?
19:27 the_scourge (everyone knows that kids from the hood become SF first, hoodrats later, not the other way around /s)
19:28 the_scourge looks like they have their tribal org down. probably lots to learn there
19:38 BingoBoingo !!up the_scourge
19:38 deedbot the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
19:42 the_scourge ah deedbot uses the same userlist as assbot!
19:43 the_scourge so I guess i'm downrated to below pleb here too
19:43 the_scourge BingoBoingo++ thanks m8
19:44 BingoBoingo No, not same. Forked.
19:46 the_scourge ah yah I've only got today's rating from kakobrekla
19:46 the_scourge BingoBoingo: still getting "You may not !!up yourself." though...
19:46 BingoBoingo In other Great Again preludes: Boeing is hiring on their F/A-18 sales staff.
19:47 BingoBoingo the_scourge: Kako's rating does not hold on this side of schism
19:47 BingoBoingo brb, sober time.
19:48 the_scourge BingoBoingo: that's fine I'll just relying on people generosity with voice until I've de-annoyed enough to get a rating :)
19:48 the_scourge BingoBoingo: schism?
19:49 BingoBoingo Maybe you should set a timer? Fill a flowerpot with soil and plant some bluegrass seed. Keep on your desk. If you read fast enough maybe you will have historical context before grass germinates?
19:50 BingoBoingo Make sure your timer is bluegrass, ryegrass timers go off too soon.
19:52 the_scourge BingoBoingo: ack'd. I've gotta work my way up maslow's hierarchy before I have a desk to put the bluegrass seed on
19:53 the_scourge lots has happened while i was away. Brexit like wtf
19:54 the_scourge Gonna go hit the gym. Hopefully I'll be able to get a VPS and do some reading next time I'm online. Good to see you guys are all doing stellar
~ 1 hours 16 minutes ~
21:11 mircea_popescu !!up dangerwolf2
21:11 deedbot dangerwolf2 voiced for 30 minutes.
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