#trilema | 2016-11-04

02:35

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trinque smells something rotten in this "intel coup" angle coming from the usual disinfo outlets

02:40

;;later tell BingoBoingo I can't remember if you covered this in your writings on frozen binary conflicts in political discourse, but it seems that in halting movement, they consequently cool.

02:40

trinque

!~later tell BingoBoingo I can't remember if you covered this in your writings on frozen binary conflicts in political discourse, but it seems that in halting movement, they consequently cool.

02:40

jhvh1

trinque: The operation succeeded.

02:42

trinque

so then, snowden, binney, et al, provide a way to bring out the panopticon in a deniable way. now that its existence is a background fact of life, the next step is to make it the hero that saved the great and made it great again

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02:52

trinque

http://www.infowars.com/pieczenik-intel-coup-bringing-down-hillary/ << rag in question, interviewing Steve Pieczenik, who seems to be another faux "turned warshington insider"

~ 21 minutes ~

03:14

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trinque should probably write when not on the end of 5am-2am; frozen and cool in the same sentence isn't very clear.

03:21

trinque

say there is pairing (A B) which represents *whether* NSA is watching us poop. opinions in democracy are arbitrary, and the thing will eventually settle around an even split. then pairing (C D) is introduced, which is *given that* NSA watches us poop, do we like that? again, since democracy is arbitrary, opinions spread evenly.

03:23

trinque

at the first step, there is one group of two that *knows* NSA is watching. at the second, it's 3 out of 4.

03:28

trinque

derp, 2/3, but you get the idea.

03:28

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trinque goes to bed now

~ 2 hours 27 minutes ~

05:55

02:35	*	trinque smells something rotten in this "intel coup" angle coming from the usual disinfo outlets
02:40	trinque	;;later tell BingoBoingo I can't remember if you covered this in your writings on frozen binary conflicts in political discourse, but it seems that in halting movement, they consequently cool.
02:40	trinque	!~later tell BingoBoingo I can't remember if you covered this in your writings on frozen binary conflicts in political discourse, but it seems that in halting movement, they consequently cool.
02:40	jhvh1	trinque: The operation succeeded.
02:42	trinque	so then, snowden, binney, et al, provide a way to bring out the panopticon in a deniable way. now that its existence is a background fact of life, the next step is to make it the hero that saved the great and made it great again
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02:52	trinque	http://www.infowars.com/pieczenik-intel-coup-bringing-down-hillary/ << rag in question, interviewing Steve Pieczenik, who seems to be another faux "turned warshington insider"
		~ 21 minutes ~
03:14	*	trinque should probably write when not on the end of 5am-2am; frozen and cool in the same sentence isn't very clear.
03:21	trinque	say there is pairing (A B) which represents whether NSA is watching us poop. opinions in democracy are arbitrary, and the thing will eventually settle around an even split. then pairing (C D) is introduced, which is given that NSA watches us poop, do we like that? again, since democracy is arbitrary, opinions spread evenly.
03:23	trinque	at the first step, there is one group of two that knows NSA is watching. at the second, it's 3 out of 4.
03:28	trinque	derp, 2/3, but you get the idea.
03:28	*	trinque goes to bed now
		~ 2 hours 27 minutes ~
05:55	mircea_popescu	http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562863 << denial and its categories don't even enter into any of this. on one hand, "the people" are bellow cattle, intellectually. one needn't explain farm functioning to the cows, just as long as they're fed. on the other hand, if you can, you must. the electronics exist, therefore they will be used. we can now mold plastics so therefore you'll fuck dildos. so what if you... uh... think yo
05:55	a111	Logged on 2016-11-04 06:42 trinque: so then, snowden, binney, et al, provide a way to bring out the panopticon in a deniable way. now that its existence is a background fact of life, the next step is to make it the hero that saved the great and made it great again
05:55	mircea_popescu	u prefer fingers ? the plastic is there, sit on it.
05:59	mircea_popescu	cctv on every pole etc is a "background fact of life" in the sense 10 degrees summer temperatures and 16 hour nights were a fact of life in 1816. there was no denying it from mt tambora mostly because nobody had the standing to fucking ask.
		~ 1 hours 49 minutes ~
07:49	deedbot	http://deedbot.org/bundle-437282.txt
		~ 1 hours 49 minutes ~
09:38	mircea_popescu	!!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/y7fe4/?raw=true
09:39	mircea_popescu	trinque any idea why it's rejecting http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562852 ?
09:39	a111	Logged on 2016-11-04 02:50 mircea_popescu: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/y7fe4/?raw=true
09:39	deedbot	accepted: 1
09:39	mircea_popescu	uh. mk.
09:43	shinohai	!~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/iaz6i/?raw=true
09:43	jhvh1	shinohai: The operation succeeded.
		~ 51 minutes ~
10:34	phf	there's a dodgy israeli coffee shop in the neighborhood (they make shakshuka and burek though, which are good, when the israeli guy is running the kitchen), which is a favorite meeting spot for local "career" women. i just spent about an hour half listening to a conversation, and for the love of me i can't figure out what it's about. "yeah should reach out to such and such i was on his board" "yeah such and such is now at such and such
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10:34	phf	they are doing some exciting work" "small business" "he's a community organizer" "small business" "building communities?" "she was on the board"
10:37	phf	"community with the NEEDS of the community" "have you reached out to the principal?" "talented and competent" "the message we're working on ... VISION"
10:51	mircea_popescu	omaygerd stop hating on them and start hitting on them
		~ 16 minutes ~
11:08	Framedragger	phf should just tell them that he too is on a board of a small but growing grass-roots community-network which is trying to help people achieve their best in life
11:08	Framedragger	if they ask for an example tell them "well for instance if you really tried hard you could perhaps become a great slavegirl. start with $trilema-tits-url"
11:08	Framedragger	COMMUNITY BUILDER
11:13	phf	i believe mircea_popescu said something a few times about women post-30 being hopeless in that respect
11:14	phf	i've flurted my way through highschool with post-menopausal authority figures like that, i'm only ever doing it again if i need something