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00:07 trinque http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germanys-birthrate-hits-33-year-high-after-arrival-900000-refugees-aging-population-a7366016.html << ahahaha
00:09 ben_vulpes "the “large majority” of the rise was driven by births to foreign-born women."
00:09 ben_vulpes aw man i pooped in the logs
00:09 trinque ben_vulpes: foreign born german women tho! because they're german nao!
00:09 mircea_popescu ahahaha
00:10 mircea_popescu anyway. german state/govt has a point : peons are replaceable. if they won't fuck - there's orcs somewhere that will.
00:13 trinque gotta have them to give welfare so they can be taxed, or something
00:13 trinque the cycles in this graph boggle
00:14 mircea_popescu aha
00:15 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161018/#8
00:15 scriba Logged on 2016-10-18: [04:09:26] <ben_vulpes> "the “large majority” of the rise was driven by births to foreign-born women."
00:16 mircea_popescu hey check it out, it fixed.
00:30 BingoBoingo lol, fuxxed unlike the those Aryan folk.
00:31 mircea_popescu and in other insertables, http://66.media.tumblr.com/9eb6cdeaf10cd64831eddd709be1b978/tumblr_nesm0ikc2N1sprsiqo1_1280.jpg
00:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform phuctor/stats just times out. i suspect this happens A LOT. nething we can do about it ?
00:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: appears to load..?
00:38 mircea_popescu now it does. what hapopens i suspect is that the queue for the cache becomes overlong, then when a requyest hits the machine starts processing it, takes > 30 s or w/e it is, the connection timeouts
00:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: db is under near-full load most of the time, as we are filling it with Framedragger's keys. afaik this'd account for it.
00:38 mircea_popescu then on subsequent request it delivers it fine
00:38 asciilifeform something like this, yes.
00:38 mircea_popescu so could the cache be reconstructed houry or somesuch to avoid this ?
00:39 asciilifeform a simple cron job ought to do the trick, actually
00:39 asciilifeform i'ma put one in when i wake up.
00:39 mircea_popescu thought so
00:39 mircea_popescu aite.
00:40 mircea_popescu and in other youthful sluts, http://67.media.tumblr.com/37cb25e20c363768aa84df87c9b5822a/tumblr_of1zrs3Amn1vdm1pio1_1280.jpg
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02:05 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2016/10/18/in-defence-of-personal-servants/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - In defence of personal servants.
02:17 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/208CF98F157CC2B4E4A0C7A18922DD71E461E1D557569BDAEE515D3D08F5C746 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 94031244202143566798174534423023440637356261691582919641171828044851605209359 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '177.234.25.93 (ssh-rsa key from 177.234.25.93 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+177.234.25.93@mkj.lt>;
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02:44 deedbot http://cascadianhacker.com/we-dont-have-a-security-problem-we-have-a-branding-problem << CH - We don't have a security problem, we have a branding problem!
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03:30 ben_vulpes mega promisetronics in urbit docs: informal conventions designed to motivate a healthy ownership structure "
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07:02 mircea_popescu lol urbit. still ?
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07:43 Framedragger http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161018/#23 << it is a pity that nginx caching mechanism does not support stale-while-revalidate - which is: if client requests page which hasn't expired in cache, serve from cache; if expired in cache, serve (the stale version) from cache, and update *in the background*. this is RFC 5861. apparently supported in newer varnish tho.
07:43 scriba Logged on 2016-10-18: [04:38:11] <mircea_popescu> now it does. what hapopens i suspect is that the queue for the cache becomes overlong, then when a requyest hits the machine starts processing it, takes > 30 s or w/e it is, the connection timeouts
07:44 mircea_popescu the solution where it's simply computed with some frequency is better.
07:45 Framedragger i don't know if it's better, but yeah a cronjob would indeed work. *however*, you then may not get around those exceptional cases where client requests page which is still processing from cronjob request - and cache already expired. unless you set it to be tightly timed i guess?
07:46 Framedragger maybe it's just a matter of having cronjob hit server in intervals which are smaller than cache expiry time.
07:46 mircea_popescu very simple to show it's better : stale-while-revalidate will show arbitrarily old data to some users ; periodic-recalculate will never show data older than the period.
07:47 Framedragger true. *unless you have both* (so you have ceiling on time). but at that point... yeah ok, cronjob is easier and better, heh.
07:47 mircea_popescu certainly easier. and once oyu have it in, adding the other adds no utility.
07:52 mircea_popescu anyone remember that line where asciilifeform said something like "dorks prove cryptosystem security by the theorem that if it looks complicated to them it probably is complicated enough" ?
08:02 mircea_popescu in other news - know who else goes around with a gangster roll ? that's right, the most powerful kenyan in the world https://archive.is/ZB5sB
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08:24 Framedragger lol! my take on it: https://i.imgflip.com/1cjilb.jpg (image now available in imgflip's template img dir)
08:33 shinohai The GREAT BITCOIN FORK is coming: https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/788188693995655168
08:39 mircea_popescu Framedragger amusingly, he didn't officially report having enough with them to allow him to get that.
08:39 mircea_popescu his declared jp morgan fortunes were 500k to 1mn ; the minimum net worth for the 4147-20 "saphire preferred signature extra hurr durr" is 25mn
08:41 Framedragger mircea_popescu: lol. maybe they accept alternative "patriot dividends" as asset
08:41 Framedragger that is amusing tho
08:46 mircea_popescu state agency, what.
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09:53 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/i-dont-think-you-understand-how-credit-cards-work/ << Trilema - I don't think you understand how credit cards "work".
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12:00 mircea_popescu in other lulz... hillary shit-ton is going into "digital currencies". VEN!
12:00 mircea_popescu !#s ven
12:00 a111 29 results for "ven", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ven
12:00 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/yGeyv for the lulz
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12:06 mircea_popescu mats btw how's mosul ? the beobachter surprisingly speaks of "tough resistance" and "slowed advance" ?
12:15 mats coalition forces are busy clearing surrounding villages
12:16 mircea_popescu yeah. iranian guy in command on the ground too ?
12:17 mats soleimani? there's no independent verification he's in country
12:17 mircea_popescu aha.
12:18 mats he doesn't have a passport at any rate
12:18 mircea_popescu lol ok.
12:22 mircea_popescu meanwhile, kurdish zone population swelled 30% in the past year, all civil servants and pashmerga salaries are in arears, and oil prices stay low.
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13:20 asciilifeform https://archive.is/SwdGV << in other lulz.
13:22 asciilifeform https://archive.is/LF2Ym << from same pile o'shit: 'NatWest bank is to close the accounts of Russia's state-run broadcaster, RT. Editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan tweeted: "They've closed our accounts in Britain. All our accounts. 'The decision is not subject to review.' '
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13:51 thestringpuller !~seen shinohai
13:51 jhvh1 thestringpuller: shinohai was last seen in #trilema 5 hours, 18 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <shinohai> The GREAT BITCOIN FORK is coming: https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/788188693995655168
13:51 thestringpuller !~later tell shinohai ping me when you get a moment pl0x
13:51 jhvh1 thestringpuller: The operation succeeded.
13:59 mircea_popescu !!up yangwao
13:59 deedbot yangwao voiced for 30 minutes.
14:02 mircea_popescu ahahahaha it is up to bank to decide if it wants to offer services to rich merchant "based on its risk appetite" ? is it also open for bank to decide if it wants to offer services to muslims etc ?
14:03 asciilifeform reichsbank does what it is told.
14:06 mircea_popescu yeah, it decides for itself to do what it's told.
14:07 asciilifeform sorta how these work
14:07 asciilifeform 'voluntary-compulsory'
14:08 asciilifeform (or how does that go in english..? is there a modern term ?)
14:08 asciilifeform 'добровольно-принудительно' (tm) (r) (su)
14:09 asciilifeform http://lurkmore.to/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%BE << see also.
14:14 mircea_popescu that was a lengthy mouthful...
14:21 mircea_popescu "Either a priapic clown or an embalmed witch are going to be running this country next year, and all I have is a case of fermented corn syrup." << lol!
14:23 mircea_popescu dude... so you sit down to read an article, like a phrase in it, keep going only to notice you're actually mentioned.
14:24 mircea_popescu i think i might be famous.
14:29 mircea_popescu and in totally unrelated news, hyaluronic acid is not really available this side od the pond ?
14:30 mircea_popescu let it be pointed out that it's the best anal fissure curative agent.
14:33 thestringpuller Why is ASIC procurement feel like I'm trying to set up a large drug deal????
14:33 thestringpuller Every time I mention miners to a supplier they freak out and vanish.
14:36 mircea_popescu possibly because you're wasting your time with internet dorks who aren't involved in asic market ?
14:37 thestringpuller nah these are irl people I meet and buy btc from who seem to have "deep supply", so I have on idea where they source their funds
14:38 thestringpuller and when I mention miners they stop taking calls
14:38 thestringpuller albeit its only happened twice but that's 2 for 2
14:41 mircea_popescu tsk
14:42 mircea_popescu mebbe you smell like teh pigs.
14:42 asciilifeform thestringpuller: it is deeply -ev to make and ~sell to plebes~ a usefully current miner.
14:42 asciilifeform thestringpuller: how do you regard strangers who offer to do other -ev things for you ?
14:45 mircea_popescu he gotta start somewhere....
14:46 thestringpuller after a certain amount cash it's not -ev :P
14:46 thestringpuller and usually people who sell also do not make
14:47 asciilifeform if the current devices are exported and sold anywhere, it is a well-kept secret.
14:48 mircea_popescu bout same as current cunts. there's a reason all that's available to the general population on dating sites is well used 40+yos
14:49 asciilifeform well they are more than happy to put derps in touch with eliza.
14:49 asciilifeform similarly to how 'asic' vendors will happily ship 2014 fpga with the etching sanded off.
14:51 mircea_popescu hey, you buy it by the hash not by the year.
14:59 mircea_popescu and in other lulz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFwdFzAX7Bw
15:10 shinohai !~later tell thestringpuller will ping in a bit, got pm's shut off again so I can concentrate
15:10 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
15:18 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-17975 << in other lulz.
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15:20 asciilifeform in yet-other lulz, https://ostif.org/the-veracrypt-audit-results << 'modernized' truecrypt.
15:28 deedbot http://cascadianhacker.com/headlight-replacement-on-a-c3-corvette << CH - Headlight Replacement on a C3 Corvette
15:34 mircea_popescu kristi doesn't have any sql anything on her computor ?
15:36 asciilifeform that's a substitute now?!
15:36 mircea_popescu from her description it's what i'd use.
15:36 trinque ahaha here's what I was just typing:
15:36 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556468 << heh. I use sqlite and emacs' helm for this, and no, it is not enough
15:36 a111 Logged on 2016-10-18 19:18 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-17975 << in other lulz.
15:37 asciilifeform sorta like suggesting wires clenched in teeth, a la su cult 'подвиг радиста', as substitute for a keyboard.
15:37 trinque relational db must be rewritten in Lisp and there must be a CLIM interface written for it
15:37 trinque asciilifeform: no, it's much closer than that
15:37 trinque but everyone uses relational databases like an idiot
15:37 mircea_popescu in honesty i always found this entire "reorder it by timeline" bulky and ineffectual. my mental teeth always did this wire clenching by itself
15:37 trinque persistent CLOS with a CLIM gadget per table would be *precisely* the thing.
15:38 mircea_popescu so today we find ben_vulpes has taken a celerity vow, which is like a chastity vow ("you shall not fucke") but it goes "you shall not worke for empire"
15:39 mircea_popescu anyway, there's some literary talent in the idle fucker, who'd have guessed ?
15:41 ben_vulpes wutno
15:42 ben_vulpes just a classic 'how to make a peanut butter sandwich' instructional piece
15:42 * trinque wonders aloud wtf asciilifeform has against the relational model
15:42 trinque answers involving SQL are automatic disqualification
15:43 asciilifeform trinque: nothing in particular
15:43 asciilifeform trinque: but didja ever read the linked piece ?
15:43 asciilifeform want to tell me that a copy of postgres substitutes for the subj ?
15:44 trinque I've been doing all sorts of things with CLIM bolted to postgresql lately
15:44 asciilifeform and i've been doing all of this with just head (have given up even on paper and pen) but this has obvious limitations.
15:45 trinque the clim part gives me anything I'd have wanted from hypercard
15:45 asciilifeform how about full-description-fits-in-50pg ?
15:45 asciilifeform or is that not a thing that one may ask for.
15:45 trinque I walk one step at a time like any fella
15:45 asciilifeform generally nothing ever goes from >50 to <=50.
15:45 asciilifeform just like eggs dun unbreak, people - unage, etc.
15:46 trinque Codd is not very complicated
15:47 asciilifeform this here is 'road coning.'
15:47 asciilifeform or what was it
15:48 trinque the provided example incurs "AND ALSO ALL OF MAC OS" as postgresql incurs item on Linux
15:48 trinque *idem
15:48 asciilifeform iirc the mac os of the period was ~msdos-sized.
15:49 asciilifeform and didn't do much aside from giving proggy a framebuffer to draw in, and open()
15:49 trinque not terribly much more to CLIM, other than sanity around which parts of buffer to redraw
15:51 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-19#1243116 << .
15:51 a111 Logged on 2015-08-19 00:18 asciilifeform: cabbie: 'this ford is a piece of shit. stalled again.' mircea_popescu: 'i have a solution!' cabbie: 'oh???111' mircea_popescu: 'here, have this broomstick.' cabbie: 'how do i drive customers on that, feed my family' mircea_popescu: 'you misunderstand, my good man. you stuff it in your arse.' cabbie: 'and... how does this feed by family?' mircea_popescu: 'no, you sit there with it in.'
15:52 mircea_popescu incidentally : the whole "what part of buffer to redraw" and the assorted nonsense comes from a time of scanning crts. i would be very much interested to see computing hardware built around a lcd paradigm. which is to say : no more hdds ; everything is flash rom, the "hdd", the "ram", the "display". arrays of x by y cells is all.
15:52 mircea_popescu what "redraw".
15:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i described this a few yrs ago
15:52 asciilifeform dependency graph.
15:52 mircea_popescu ah ? i must've missed it.
15:52 mircea_popescu but anyway - sanity's but one, so.
15:53 asciilifeform (pixel is connected directly to pipe, that can go wherever, fpga-style.)
15:53 mircea_popescu aha
15:53 trinque I suppose I'll just wait around for this before writing anything.
15:53 trinque argumentum ad apocalyptum
15:53 mircea_popescu if i want to see a 1mb page of "ram" on my display whop's to prevent me. "real time" wtf is that.
15:53 mircea_popescu trinque eh, such wasn't contemplated!
15:53 asciilifeform incidentally actual lcd panel such as one might buy it today is still a rastertron.
15:54 mircea_popescu sadly.
15:54 mircea_popescu but i mean enough of raster gfx already, it's done.
15:54 asciilifeform i'd be satisfied even with the modest miracle of ~usable~ lcd not going up exponentially in price.
15:54 asciilifeform which it is.
15:55 mircea_popescu anyway - a tightly coupled video-ram bridge would even do away with the dumbass "drivers" and etc.
15:55 asciilifeform funnily enough, we had this in the '80s.
15:55 asciilifeform before the whole 'gpu' crapolade went konsooomer.
15:56 asciilifeform 3 bytes - 1 pixel, vga.
15:56 asciilifeform addressable.
15:56 asciilifeform want shapes? draw'em.
15:56 mircea_popescu by now "gpu" can move on to its proper niche as... hash engine (ie, what in period lingo would be "math coprocessor") and the video can go back to being straight up dac
15:56 asciilifeform and it is perfectly feasible to draw 3d shapes in software, reasonably quickly.
15:57 trinque this is not related to the discussion of CLIM at all
15:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform even a modest 1024x768 screen would be 2mb which is not bad for memory inspectionz either
15:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha.
15:57 mircea_popescu trinque it isn't, not really.
15:57 trinque you'd still at the application layer be describing operations on a plane which are a function over the previous plane producing the next
15:57 trinque mircea_popescu: heh k
15:57 mircea_popescu plane ? what ?
15:57 trinque but not as though this isn't cool
15:57 asciilifeform trinque: mno. read henderson's functional-graphics paper.
15:58 mircea_popescu trinque i don't think you appreciate the horror of directx/opengl, for blessed lack of experience. but if you wish to get spooked and not be able to sleep ever again, do review the history of opengl 2006-2016 in context.
15:59 mircea_popescu the insanity that occured. the errors. the nvida game developer dessant teams. the whole decade.
15:59 mircea_popescu taking the god damned gpu hardware out of the computer would improve it immensely.
15:59 trinque I can't just hide in this nice niche where I call (draw-circle* ...) and the thing does?
16:00 trinque lol
16:00 mircea_popescu o brother.
16:00 mircea_popescu just the issues of bad blipping, flipped buffers, jesus almighty.
16:00 asciilifeform trinque: Just Want To (tm) ?
16:00 asciilifeform 'tis a sin
16:00 mircea_popescu do you understand that the "graphics" ad-hoc card-programming was more code than the actual game for most studios in the period ?
16:01 shinohai 'tis a sin cos why?
16:01 mircea_popescu tangent
16:01 trinque I got lost somewhere in between pixels should be (x,y,color) and mount OpenGL
16:01 trinque I tend to agree with the former
16:02 trinque and the former maps nicely to being a CLIM backend, i.e. a framebuffer port of the thing wouldn't be that hard
16:02 mircea_popescu pixels really are just color(rgb), 3 bytes. the xy is implicit.
16:02 trinque but I'm speaking of the application layer; eventually you're talking about an X,Y position, no?
16:03 mircea_popescu notreally. you do the whole screen at once.
16:03 mircea_popescu all the time.\
16:03 mircea_popescu this (xy) thing is a raster artefact. i'm not fucking scanning the pixels.
16:03 trinque somebody does the math for the circle
16:04 mircea_popescu sure. but in your hands not in the fucking crazy chip.
16:04 trinque certainly not in the chip; CLIM is a very high level thing, akin to hypercard or the browser and not a video driver
16:04 trinque that's the divergence here
16:05 mircea_popescu basically printing the screen with tits should be cat tits.bmp > screen0
16:07 mircea_popescu and if i want to do a slideshow i do a for loop, and the machine cycles through the bmps as fast as memory updates, which is to say i get 2GHz ie 2 bn fps.
16:07 mircea_popescu ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME, NO EXCEPTIONS.
16:08 asciilifeform where do i buy a 2GHz lcd ?
16:09 mircea_popescu aha. imagine that thing, with individually wired pixels, the cable coming out of its back as thick as the fucking viewport.
16:09 mircea_popescu then we can build twinkle at home.
16:10 asciilifeform btw who remembers 'vectrex' ?
16:10 mircea_popescu one of the vertical displays
16:10 asciilifeform not only vertical
16:10 asciilifeform but nonrasterized.
16:11 trinque hm. neat!
16:11 * trinque is googling
16:11 mircea_popescu ah it was vector based was it ?
16:11 asciilifeform aha, as the name implied.
16:11 mircea_popescu 100 bucks. but i never had one.
16:11 trinque so that goes an entirely different direction from RAM full of sequential pixels, eh?
16:11 trinque movements of beam?
16:12 mircea_popescu well this is a crt.
16:12 trinque still same horizontal scan pattern instead of tracing out the vector shapes?
16:12 trinque if so, scam
16:13 mircea_popescu eh, vector display was this attempt of console people in the 80s to fight the killer micro.
16:13 * mircea_popescu never liked consoles.
16:14 asciilifeform i've never seen an actual working 'vectrex.' but knew about it from ancient graphics textbook.
16:14 asciilifeform and no, it was not scam, the thing actually moved the beam to draw the shapes.
16:14 asciilifeform like 1950s 'sage' radar console.
16:19 mircea_popescu apparently they did one of the very few honest attempts at 3d, with spinning half-black disk and everything.
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16:40 trinque right, so what mircea_popescu described with tits.bmp is a framebuffer
16:41 * trinque wants to understand why asciilifeform balked when I said draw-circle goes and alters that framebuffer
16:42 asciilifeform trinque: because 'framebuffer' and 'circle' are more complicated than pictured here.
16:42 asciilifeform for instance, ~which~ buffer ?
16:42 asciilifeform there is never 1, unless you like flicker.
16:43 asciilifeform and what if the circle reaches outside of the buffer? etc.
16:43 trinque if there's no video card, I assume there is just an area of ram currently being used as such
16:43 trinque could have as many as you like, tell the video output thinger that offset x to x+n is the frame
16:43 trinque ?
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17:00 asciilifeform trinque: it gets complicated surprisingly quickly. consider 'blitting' between buffers.
17:00 asciilifeform (and while drawing is taking place.)
17:14 mircea_popescu consider none of this shit.
17:14 mircea_popescu screen shows what's in ram. no more, no less. at the fps here considered, these artefacts aren't more significant than the speaker hum due to being powered off ac not dc
17:15 asciilifeform first bake a nonrasterized panel.
17:15 mircea_popescu right.
17:15 mircea_popescu that's what i'm saying. make a fucking proper lcd alrerady, who the fuck heard of this crt-emulated-in-lcd
17:15 mircea_popescu about as stupid as creating a mechanical drum for the usb stick
17:15 mircea_popescu "oh you can't read there, the selector is not on that cell!"
17:16 asciilifeform check out how sdram works some time.
17:16 mircea_popescu fucking factory model that gave us the usg in the end. "oh this is where we process things". damn it.
17:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no i know.
17:17 asciilifeform the same idiocy recurs, everywhere, 'eh our cow died, let's call the resulting mass of weevils 'the cow', pretend to drink its... milk'
17:17 asciilifeform yes dram gave you 'gigabyte per chip', nevermind ~of what~
17:18 asciilifeform it isn't really random-access.
17:20 * mircea_popescu points out that a 1024x768 bundle of wires, 786.5k total is not unthinkable. at 50 microns each + 30 insulation you'll end up with a cable bundle 4 inches thick, big deal. a girl could take it in either hole with a little practice!
17:20 asciilifeform what's on other end?
17:20 asciilifeform and why do you need wires
17:20 mircea_popescu lcd cells ?
17:20 asciilifeform put what's on other end, on the glass.
17:20 asciilifeform (your fpga or whatever.)
17:20 mircea_popescu leds.
17:20 asciilifeform which are made of something other than semiconductor ?
17:21 asciilifeform put'em on the same die.
17:21 mircea_popescu and i don't need a wire. i'm just using the wire to loosen headcunts.
17:21 asciilifeform lolk
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17:52 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> yes dram gave you 'gigabyte per chip', nevermind ~of what~ << DRAMs of rum also refreshed the Royal Navy's gift of sodomy
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18:26 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/the-butt-injectors/ << Trilema - The Butt Injectors
18:26 mircea_popescu speaking of the gifts of sodomy
18:27 mircea_popescu and in other news, guess who (else) is rewriting trilema "in his own words". that's right, irrelevant academitard from flyover country : http://news.vcu.edu/article/VCU_professor_discusses_The_Politics_of_Bitcoin_Software_as_RightWing
18:28 mircea_popescu otherwise in mosul, the fight is now supposed to take two months, a 50% upgrade, and from the locals “The Iraqi army arrived yesterday and took the town, and today Isis came back and the army ran away. We weren’t expecting this.”
18:28 mircea_popescu who the fuck ever heard of regular forces winning an attrition fight with insurgents and who the fuck is the imbecile strategist that allowed this to play out...
18:29 mircea_popescu apparently the pashmerga have decided they're not going to go any further. iraqi "police" is on its own.
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19:31 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/10/quid-pro-quo-and-arkencide-a-special-roundup-xtendtmr/ << Qntra - Quid Pro Quo And Arkencide – A Special Roundup Xtend(TM)(R)
19:34 asciilifeform procto-pomade lul
19:34 asciilifeform industria argentina!11
19:34 trinque BingoBoingo: s/part/party/ in first point
19:35 trinque s/Clitler hold/Clitler to hold/
19:39 BingoBoingo ty fxd
19:41 asciilifeform from mircea_popescu's link, http://www.uncomputing.org/?p=1716 << lulzy example, more or less at random, of peculiarly literate lizard shill
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20:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha. "code IS much closer to x than y". "says who" "sayz me" "aokthen"
20:13 mircea_popescu anyway - speaking of "misrepresentation hard to not see as wilful" - governments DO NOT regulate.
20:13 mircea_popescu parliaments regulate. governments are not parliaments, nor are they legitimate, as a matter of principle, which is separable and also separate from the absent legitimacy of parliaments.
20:13 mircea_popescu aaanyway. clueless dork with pretensions
20:21 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo publicly campaigning from President << for
20:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but the point that bitcoin is "right wing", which is to say, that it chokes socialism by its very nature, rather than by some sort of interpretation or ulterior human construction apparently finally landed
20:24 mircea_popescu only took 'em 3 years or so to digest trilema.
20:24 asciilifeform the 'bugspray for 10,001 species of weevil' aspect was obvious almost on day 1.
20:25 mircea_popescu not to the weevils.
20:25 mircea_popescu fwtw
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20:43 mircea_popescu it's funny, reviewing the iraq conflict, just how much fucking romanian weaponry is involved.
20:43 mircea_popescu the psl ? the pm 65 ? oodlebunches.
20:44 mircea_popescu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iraqi_SVD.JPG << left one is the psl.
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22:35 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo publicly campaigning from President << for << ty fxd
22:36 BingoBoingo !!Up mthreat
22:36 deedbot mthreat voiced for 30 minutes.
22:36 mthreat hola
22:36 BingoBoingo hola
22:36 mod6 hey mthreat
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22:52 ben_vulpes whoa howdy mthreat
22:55 ben_vulpes https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/the-politics-of-bitcoin << dat cert do
22:55 ben_vulpes oh that's nice
22:55 ben_vulpes expanding details on the cert in chrome expanded the pane off the bottom of my screen
22:55 ben_vulpes collapsing it did not undo the expansion
22:56 * ben_vulpes stabs buttons at random
22:56 ben_vulpes aok, /enter/ not /esc/
23:01 mircea_popescu how goes mthreat ?
23:01 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you don't understand how websecuritits work.
23:01 ben_vulpes vapid little interview.
23:02 mircea_popescu stick to autoshop bodywork, these advanced webthingees not fer ya :D
23:09 ben_vulpes heh topic of i'm trying to sell a third of my civic to my business partner in exchange for a very large turbo and his time installing it
23:11 ben_vulpes tangentially tangentially, i dunno about these headlights, baby. i think i need to take 'em out and rattle them around for a few hours before i trust the connectors and re-seating job fully.
23:14 mircea_popescu how do you sell parts of a car ?
23:18 BingoBoingo easily
23:21 mircea_popescu and in other news of BingoBoingo interest, http://67.media.tumblr.com/159e0027458126b9efc2d199e05011c2/tumblr_oa4ggeei1C1v7tn4go3_1280.jpg
23:22 BingoBoingo OMG that has to be the highest ratio of arm fat storage I have ever seen.
23:23 mircea_popescu bonus http://67.media.tumblr.com/e3510fdb3e615a8f65626c602051370d/tumblr_oa4ggeei1C1v7tn4go1_1280.jpg
23:25 BingoBoingo OMG where did you find this Oreogre
23:25 mod6 heheh
23:25 mircea_popescu lol
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