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00:00 ascii_modem rpc command, like getinfo
00:00 mod6 ah i see what you mean. ok.
00:00 mod6 yeah, i did that in my last paste: ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531-heapdump-002.txt
00:01 mod6 there was just one line in that file: P=(ID=11738 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000)
00:01 ascii_modem instance was running when you did this?
00:01 mod6 yup
00:02 ascii_modem with what flags ?
00:02 mod6 i can do another, sec.
00:02 ascii_modem plz use same! flags as i did
00:04 mod6 http://dpaste.com/052M247.txt
00:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ghjkio )
00:04 mike_c ;;later tell jurov deterministic behavior for the win. I ran it again and it worked.. thanks!
00:04 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:04 mod6 yup, i'm using the same flags exactly. except I need to add the -datadir flag.
00:04 mod6 is that flag a deal-breaker?
00:04 ascii_modem gotta run under igprof !!!
00:05 mod6 oook.
00:05 ascii_modem the bitcoind running instance
00:05 ascii_modem not the rpc cmd
00:05 mod6 your email just says this:
00:05 mod6 To disgorge a heap profile snapshot at a given moment:
00:05 mod6 ./bitcoind profileheapdump heapdumpfilename
00:05 ascii_modem 100% correct
00:06 ascii_modem the running instance of bitcoind, and only it
00:06 ascii_modem must be run via igprof
00:06 mod6 but your saying that i need to do like `nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531-heapdump-004.txt`?
00:07 ascii_modem nohup igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &
00:08 ascii_modem mod6: nooooooo
00:08 ascii_modem do you understand above line from my post ?
00:09 ascii_modem it spins up an instance of bitcoind-under-igprof
00:09 mod6 <+ascii_modem> nohup igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log & <<< this is exactly how im executing to begin with, then bitcoind is running as such (via `ps ax`): 11738 pts/2 SLl 0:17 ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -profileheap
00:09 ascii_modem which can, 1, 100, million, times, be asked to take a dump
00:10 mod6 well my exact invocation is: nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &
00:10 mod6 that -datadir flag shouldn't matter.
00:10 ascii_modem mod6: this is running now?
00:10 mod6 yeah
00:10 ascii_modem and dump results in turd?
00:12 mod6 well, i just found a file in hee, just generated: cat igprof.bitcoind.11807.1433650120.286376.gz | gunzip
00:12 mod6 P=(ID=11807 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000)
00:12 mod6 but that's all thats in there.
00:13 ascii_modem then i can finally pronounce your setup broken
00:13 ascii_modem build igprof from source (i will share mine later) on a gentoo box
00:14 ascii_modem but only -then- bitcoind
00:14 mod6 ok. i did build it from source. no problems were encouterd. followed the COMPILE.txt exactly.
00:14 mod6 *shrug*
00:14 ascii_modem ipso facto broken
00:15 mod6 ok. anyway, thanks for your time.
00:15 ascii_modem we may end up passing around qemu images after all
00:15 ascii_modem because this - is intolerable
00:16 mod6 i might just be extra-strenght stupid though.
00:16 ascii_modem invited to check tomorrow again
00:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123600 @ 0.00036592 = 45.2277 BTC [+]
00:17 ascii_modem 'night
00:17 mod6 night ascii
00:20 mod6 well, maybe i can get this damn gentoo box to work
00:20 mod6 shehaw
00:21 mod6 riiight
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00:40 mod6 uuugh. this thing is nuttier than squirrel shit.
00:41 mod6 ok, i'll give it another shot tomorrow.
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01:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88900 @ 0.00035777 = 31.8058 BTC [-]
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04:54 punkman jurov, there's a problem in eulora.bat, "%PROGRAMFILES(x86)%\cs\winlibs\x86\lib\" should change "cs" to uppercase
05:00 punkman seems to be working otherwise, well done
05:02 punkman ;;later tell mircea_popescu I'll take a Eulora account
05:02 gribble The operation succeeded.
05:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76833 @ 0.00036407 = 27.9726 BTC [-]
05:08 punkman https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/5863
05:08 assbot Add autoprune functionality by sdaftuar · Pull Request #5863 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IuapfR )
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05:29 jurov punkman did changing it fixed your problem? last i heard windows are case-insensitive anyway
05:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67966 @ 0.0003544 = 24.0872 BTC [-] {3}
05:29 mircea_popescu punkman comin' right up.
05:30 jurov and i'm getting reports it crashes first time or first two tiimes, but then runs fine
05:30 jurov wiithout any changes
05:30 mircea_popescu jurov lol wtf is this, windows is now a mammal ?
05:30 mircea_popescu "hurts the first coupla times baby, but then it goes oiled"
05:31 jurov haha i guess
05:31 punkman jurov, yes it worked after I uppercased it
05:32 punkman will Eulora run on older laptops with linux?
05:32 cazalla ran fine here without any changes
05:33 jurov punkman it needs decent 3d support, if the laptop has old intel card it works but is a pain
05:33 mircea_popescu punkman i had it run on a very old laptop, but it was very slow.
05:33 jurov and eats much cpu too, but i hope that can be improved, there is not reason for that
05:34 mircea_popescu jurov http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows << so where does luser click ?
05:34 assbot Eulora for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1cE14DE )
05:34 cazalla that whale monument lags the fuck out of me
05:35 jurov not for lusers yet
05:35 mircea_popescu incidentally : the client is entirely open. if anyone feels like making patches they'll certainly be reviewed.
05:35 punkman jurov, also mingw/msys can be deselected before installer starts installing
05:37 jurov mircea_popescu: i thought when you put it on minigame.bz, then i remove that provisional part altogether
05:37 jurov pukman i see
05:37 mircea_popescu jurov put what/where ?
05:38 jurov the files i uploaded
05:38 jurov what will be one with them?
05:38 punkman http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/may/19/cannes-backlash-high-heels-emily-blunt-flat-shoes
05:38 assbot Cannes faces backlash after women reportedly barred from film screening for not wearing high heels | Film | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iue79i )
05:38 mircea_popescu what i want you to do is create a page for your own distribution packages much like the one on binaries
05:38 mircea_popescu then i can link that
05:39 jurov ah, put the manifest into html. ic
05:39 mircea_popescu jurov it can be in any format you wish, including txt, but maintained by you.
05:39 mircea_popescu it'd be a horribru arrangement for me to have to keep changing mine every time you need yours changed.
05:40 jurov .txt is already there, you can publish it and i'll add html version soon
05:40 mircea_popescu can i have a link to it ?
05:41 jurov it's on your ftp server
05:41 mircea_popescu dawg...
05:41 mircea_popescu put the text file somewhere accessible and link it
05:41 jurov so you expected i keep html on explo.yt an only binaries on minigame.bz?
05:42 jurov okay that make s sense
05:42 mircea_popescu well normally that's how myeah
05:44 mircea_popescu jurov for the record, http://minigame.bz/eulora/Eulora-June12015-win32.7z http://minigame.bz/eulora/cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe
05:44 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueIHP )
05:44 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueIHU )
05:44 mircea_popescu eh wtf.
05:44 mircea_popescu oh i mean
05:45 mircea_popescu jurov for the record, http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/Eulora-June12015-win32.7z http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe
05:45 jurov http://explo.yt/public/MANIFEST-0.1.0.txt
05:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueNvn )
05:45 jurov deedbot- http://explo.yt/public/MANIFEST-0.1.0.txt
05:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IuePTZ )
05:45 deedbot- accepted: 1
05:48 jurov http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows updated
05:48 assbot Eulora 0.1.0 for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1IufcOl )
05:48 jurov going afk, will linkify and improve it later
05:51 mircea_popescu jurov http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/jurov-manifest-0.1.0.html << fify
05:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IufBAn )
05:53 jurov tyvm!
05:53 mircea_popescu i had added a dot after #eulora and then spent 5 minutes trying to figure out wtf why dfoes it say bad signature
05:53 mircea_popescu then i was like a! wait... you can't copyedit gpg signed matter!
05:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120200 @ 0.00035982 = 43.2504 BTC [+] {2}
06:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00035403 = 3.5049 BTC [-]
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06:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00035113 = 6.2501 BTC [-]
06:23 mircea_popescu punkman http://dpaste.com/2Z7A58Y
06:23 assbot dpaste: 2Z7A58Y ... ( http://bit.ly/1G3BP8E )
06:25 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156512 << the notion that anyone fucking asked them...
06:25 assbot Logged on 07-06-2015 02:41:20; williamdunne: I know, yes, it does look odd that I'm booking a flight from Prague to Bucharest
06:26 mircea_popescu so annoying.
06:28 mircea_popescu and now... ima be off... playing my game
06:29 mircea_popescu lalalala an' a bottle o' rum.
06:29 mircea_popescu which they don't have here but the cognac is passible.
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07:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94700 @ 0.00035002 = 33.1469 BTC [-] {2}
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07:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66918 @ 0.00034924 = 23.3704 BTC [-] {3}
07:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87765 @ 0.00035307 = 30.9872 BTC [+]
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08:35 punkman jurov, the uppercase thing was fluke, it still crashes a bunch of times before it works
08:37 punkman ;;later tell chetty slightly annoying that we can't paste on login form
08:37 gribble The operation succeeded.
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08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33880 @ 0.00035146 = 11.9075 BTC [-]
09:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00036279 = 11.1921 BTC [+]
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09:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117000 @ 0.0003548 = 41.5116 BTC [+] {2}
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10:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00035146 = 16.2375 BTC [-]
10:28 mircea_popescu ;;later tell ScottJ_ i live in buenos aires yo.
10:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9952 @ 0.00035686 = 3.5515 BTC [+]
10:46 scoopbot_revived The "Follow your heart" myth. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/07/the-follow-your-heart-myth/
10:48 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mblyts2T0m1rejj40o1_1280.jpg << the heart in question
10:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GiG69E )
10:49 shinohai The heart isn't red enough, may need more spanking to ensure max crimson.
10:49 mircea_popescu max crimson lol
10:50 scoopbot_revived Subject: Important notice from SEC http://trilema.com/2015/subject-important-notice-from-sec/
10:53 shinohai scottrade.tk ? seriously?
10:55 shinohai And the spelling is atrocious .... obvious troll/phish
11:03 pete_dushenski ;;bc,stats
11:03 gribble Current Blocks: 359861 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1002 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
11:05 pete_dushenski ;;later tell decimation thanks for putting me on to that bloody shovel blog ! you'll find it quoted in the most recent contravex
11:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:07 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2015#1153802 << if these kids knew their asses from their heads, they'd be most scared of the ex-military guys in #b-a
11:07 assbot Logged on 04-06-2015 13:57:30; jurov: https://8ch.net/btc/res/332.html#341 bingo's famous
11:08 pete_dushenski not that i'm volunteering to fight BingoBoingo, but mats or adlai would be the one's i'd watch out for.
11:09 pete_dushenski was there anyone else here who did a military stint that i'm forgetting ?
11:10 pete_dushenski and on the chin-ups-as-a-measure-of-fitness front, i can currently do... 8
11:10 pete_dushenski few more weeks of summer weather and 10 is very much acheivable.
11:11 pete_dushenski it's actually nuts how seasonal life in the arctic is
11:11 ben_vulpes how so nuts? you're far away from the equator.
11:12 pete_dushenski 5 months of fair weather (may-sept) where i can be active as all hell, and then 7 months where i eat carbs and go soft
11:13 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: life in the arctic is nuts compared to life on the internet, where every day is just like the last.
11:13 ben_vulpes i'm thinking futsal for next winter
11:13 pete_dushenski like indoor soccer ?
11:14 * pete_dushenski played this growing up
11:14 ben_vulpes smaller teams, smaller balls, smaller field but more or less.
11:15 * ben_vulpes attempts to compile crystalspace on os x for the third time today
11:15 pete_dushenski 5 players *including* goalkeeper eh.
11:16 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: lotsa weird dependencies ?
11:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42539 @ 0.00035146 = 14.9508 BTC [-]
11:19 ben_vulpes i don't think they're terribly weird, but what do i know
11:20 ben_vulpes the first fun bit was when the configure script for chetty's specified version of cs actually asked me for the password to crystal@crystalspace3d.org's account...
11:20 ben_vulpes was trying to package and upload an msi or some other such madness
11:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50111 @ 0.00035095 = 17.5865 BTC [-]
11:21 ben_vulpes now i'm just trying to compile the latest
11:21 ben_vulpes if this fails i'll download a stable tarball and try that
11:21 ben_vulpes i'm not even certain that anyone builds this on os x regularly
11:24 pete_dushenski sounds like god's work.
11:27 pete_dushenski https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38w53p/kraken_bitcoin_withdrawals_keep_pending/ << ruhroh
11:27 assbot Kraken bitcoin withdrawals keep pending : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwMLPT )
11:30 pete_dushenski "On Thursday, the US Office of Personnel Management (OPM) confirmed that hackers broke into its servers. A data center in Denver was compromised, we're told, which resulted in the loss of personal information on four million current and former employees; the records could date back as far as 1985."
11:30 pete_dushenski ^unearthing all the "i was just doing my job"ers.
11:31 pete_dushenski retired on not, y'all usian bureaucrats are so fucking guilty.
11:33 pete_dushenski "The agency is offering 18 months of identity-theft protection and credit monitoring services for those who have had their personal details lifted." << i cannot possibly comprehend what's meant by "identity theft protection"
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11:33 ben_vulpes i think i have 3 concurrent "identity theft protection" contracts
11:34 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: you're familiar with asciilifeform's story about sponsors of foreigners in the states taking mortgages out in the foreigners names?
11:34 pete_dushenski hm nope.
11:34 pete_dushenski sounds plausible enough though
11:38 pete_dushenski "A Spanish woman has filed a lawsuit against eBay for the right to sell the Sun, El Mundo reports." << an answer to that old question : "what is the utility of the sun to you ?"
11:39 pete_dushenski i guess it's about 10k euroes
11:48 pete_dushenski the reg's tim worstall is at it again : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/07/so_why_didnt_quantitative_easing_produce_huge_inflation/
11:48 assbot So why the hell didn't quantitative easing produce HUGE inflation? • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwPeKb )
11:49 pete_dushenski ""So, if we increase the money supply then we'll get lots more inflation. This didn't happen, or as I'll point out, did in fact, so obviously those who were crying wolf were wrong"
11:49 pete_dushenski "A quick historical divergence: it's much more useful to study the 19th Century recessions to see this, as at that point M, money, was determined by the supply of gold. And yes, recessions really were accompanied by significant deflation and also falls in output and no, no one really liked that at all. Which is why this idea that Bitcoin has only a single total amount that will ever be issued is not to the taste
11:49 pete_dushenski of central bankers. Because it ties hands when dealing with this specific problem."
11:50 pete_dushenski anyways, i hung up worstall once before when he tried to make a value proposition for facebook : http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/23/how-the-adage-time-is-money-and-the-existence-of-google-prove-that-facebook-is-worth-less-than-dust/
11:50 assbot How the adage “time is money” and the existence of Google+ prove that Facebook is worth less than dust. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwPzfW )
11:51 pete_dushenski he's probably too old and retarded to bother inviting here for a little conversation
11:51 pete_dushenski but maybe one day he'll stumble upon this corner of the world, and we'll have the logs to start with
11:52 pete_dushenski and now i'm off to meatspace ! ciao !!
11:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48021 @ 0.00035292 = 16.9476 BTC [+] {2}
12:02 ben_vulpes crystalspace 2.0 confirmed to be broken on os x
12:02 ben_vulpes unrelatedly, the navy is gearing up for its own f35: http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/06/congress-tries-to-hide-a-submarine-000069
12:02 assbot Congress tries to hide a submarine ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwQYTP )
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70300 @ 0.00035762 = 25.1407 BTC [+] {2}
12:03 ben_vulpes dude what is the damn point of a sub
12:03 ben_vulpes incredibly expensive
12:03 ben_vulpes incredibly vulnerable
12:03 ben_vulpes hugely visible on sonar i imagine
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12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109600 @ 0.00034885 = 38.234 BTC [-] {2}
12:28 jurov <ben_vulpes> crystalspace 2.0 confirmed to be broken on os x << sauce?
12:29 ben_vulpes personal verification.
12:30 ben_vulpes downloaded tarball, ran ./configure, configure script asks for password for crystal@crystalspace3d.org , fails to produce jam or makefiles
12:30 ben_vulpes have also done the same thing with various svn checkouts
12:31 jurov do you have osx system i can remote to?
12:31 jurov or anyone?
12:31 ben_vulpes chetty's going to post me a tarball to try, i expect it to behave the precisely same way
12:31 ben_vulpes nope.
12:31 ben_vulpes i'm going to go stand in the sun and burn the open source off of my face.
12:32 ben_vulpes and hands.
12:34 ben_vulpes i just keep failing/to compile/crystal space/on my mac/ooh ooh ooh (to the tune of https://youtu.be/Urdlvw0SSEc?t=49)
12:34 assbot Alicia Keys - Fallin' - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dolmlq )
12:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 330100 @ 0.00034737 = 114.6668 BTC [-] {6}
12:47 mircea_popescu o.O
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102854 @ 0.00035961 = 36.9873 BTC [+] {2}
12:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72050 @ 0.00036018 = 25.951 BTC [+]
13:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17519 @ 0.00036018 = 6.31 BTC [+]
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14:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50111 @ 0.00036113 = 18.0966 BTC [-]
14:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55500 @ 0.00036496 = 20.2553 BTC [+] {2}
14:19 mircea_popescu blockchain down again huh
14:20 kakobrekla heh
14:20 * Adlai also gets anxious when it takes more than 10 minutes to confirm
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14:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59259 @ 0.00036 = 21.3332 BTC [-]
14:49 decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156812 < pete in the us this often is a scam. Because none of the banks actually use a WoT to determine creditworthiness (like they did in the past), they use a silly credit score system
14:49 assbot Logged on 07-06-2015 15:33:03; pete_dushenski: "The agency is offering 18 months of identity-theft protection and credit monitoring services for those who have had their personal details lifted." << i cannot possibly comprehend what's meant by "identity theft protection"
14:50 decimation so all you need to do to apply for credit is to know someone's personal identity details, mainly their social security number
14:51 decimation the 'theft protection' generally are the same agencies selling the credit scores also selling you the 'service' of telling you when someone applies for credit in your name
14:51 decimation you know, 'that's an aweful nice score you got there, would be a shame if something happened to it'
14:52 decimation how this helps protect individual bureaucrats from Chinese designs is a mystery
14:57 shinohai http://www.wired.com/2010/05/lifelock-identity-theft/ <<< like this?
14:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RVRZ9j )
14:57 decimation heh yeah
14:58 decimation the other part of the scam is to get you to subscribe to a 'service' that does very little for you
14:58 decimation I suspect many of these 'free giveaways' for credit monitoring are merely trojan horse marketing schemes
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14:59 trinque mod6: ey, I'm building a basic gentoo in a VM today. if it bakes well, I'll image it and give you a torrent.
15:00 trinque also writing up my steps, not using the handbook
15:03 decimation ;;later tell pete_dushenski no problem, that blog is one of the few that are fairly readable in the 'reactionary sphere'. top commenters too.
15:03 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73300 @ 0.00037192 = 27.2617 BTC [+] {2}
15:04 decimation for instance, Handle points out: "See, e.g., this updated criterion for military officer (and NCO!) evaluation (only now becoming a big deal, since one is no longer able to slide with ?supports the program? type of bullet points). This is the Army version, but the same policy is now implemented across all the armed services."
15:04 decimation " ? raters will assess how well the rated officer or NCO fostered a climate of dignity and respect and adhered to the Sexual harassment/Assault Response and Prevention (SHARP) Program. "
15:06 mod6 trinque: hey thanks!
15:08 trinque np
15:09 trinque coming at it from the perspective that you do everything not related to booting the thing *after* booting the thing
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15:37 decimation https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kde6s_he-is-not-equal-never-will-be_news < Harry Lee's (now dead 'king' of singapore) speech on equality
15:37 assbot He is not equal, never will be - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1eWLDbv )
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15:53 decimation http://nullprogram.com/blog/2015/05/15/ < how to thread without the pthread library
15:53 assbot Raw Linux Threads via System Calls « null program ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOlbuS )
15:54 decimation ^ perhaps there is an awakening here, folks are realizing it make sense to 'live in the bedrock' rather than accept the shit-stack in userland without question
15:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 255250 @ 0.00036073 = 92.0763 BTC [-]
16:00 danielpbarron !up Petit_Dejeuner
16:01 Petit_Dejeuner Thanks. I don't have much to say though.
16:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26242 @ 0.0003588 = 9.4156 BTC [-] {2}
16:14 oglafbot http://oglaf.com/untamed/
16:14 assbot Untamed Devotion: Endless Beginnings 3 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmKZv )
16:14 jurov http://www.explo.yt/eulora/eulora_33.jpg party in full swing
16:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmQjX )
16:16 decimation lol story on what happened with moldbug's "uninvitation" was censored on hacker news http://hnrankings.info/9674992/
16:16 assbot Hacker News Rankings ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmV7p )
16:17 decimation "However, in this case it is clear to me that your opinions in areas outside your talk are concerning enough for a significantly large number of attendees that those reactions are overshadowing the talk and acting as a distraction for launching the conference as a whole."
16:17 decimation note the particularly oblique angle here: it's not that yarvin's opinions are bad, it's that his group can't handle them, see
16:17 decimation it would be a real shame if you showed up at our meeting of the jacobin club
16:18 decimation "I can handle it, but you never know about those sans qulot"
16:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101450 @ 0.00035113 = 35.6221 BTC [-] {2}
16:33 Adlai he even specifically distances himself from the content ("I have not personally read them"), what apparently his audience is unable to do
16:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117755 @ 0.00034671 = 40.8268 BTC [-]
16:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91834 @ 0.00034975 = 32.1189 BTC [+]
16:43 trinque mod6: it lives
16:44 decimation Adlai: heh yeah
16:45 decimation https://improprietaryinfluence.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/a-strange-loop/ < another blog on the topic > "What should have happened was the activists being told to get lost five years ago, when the ?inclusiveness? crusade began. Neutral technologists, if they knew then what they will know eventually, would have done that."
16:45 assbot A Strange Loop | Improprietary Influence ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOoQZB )
16:45 decimation " But they believed the lies. As a result, they now have negligibly greater contributions from ?the oppressed?, but they are losing out on contributions from conservatives?extreme conservatives now, but moderate conservatives later. In the end they will have nothing."
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17:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 328072 @ 0.00034726 = 113.9263 BTC [-] {4}
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00035287 = 2.3413 BTC [+]
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18:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 129800 @ 0.00034618 = 44.9342 BTC [-] {2}
18:08 danielpbarron !up _flow_
18:08 danielpbarron !up alaricsp
18:09 danielpbarron !up BananaLotus
18:09 danielpbarron !up bitspill
18:09 danielpbarron !up CryptOprah
18:09 danielpbarron !up eric
18:09 danielpbarron !up huseby
18:10 danielpbarron !up Jezzz
18:10 danielpbarron !up julmac
18:10 danielpbarron !up kdomanski
18:10 danielpbarron !up knotwork
18:10 danielpbarron !up mariorz
18:10 danielpbarron !up MCM-Mike
18:11 danielpbarron !up NewLiberty
18:11 danielpbarron !up ryan-c
18:12 danielpbarron !up warptangent
18:12 danielpbarron !up weex
18:12 danielpbarron !up wiz
18:12 danielpbarron !up yang
18:15 danielpbarron ^ all the users idling in here with a key registered and 0 in assbot's l2
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18:17 mod6 <+trinque> mod6: it lives << ahh cool. got it workin?
18:17 trinque yeah, got a torrent of the image too
18:17 trinque fiddling with my network such that I can seed it
18:19 trinque boots a kernel which should be equivalent to the livecd (genkernel), grub2, eudev instead of udev, root has password "gentoo", all other decisions (logger, cron, so on) left to be made
18:19 trinque a few things (pulseaudio, systemd) removed by USE in make.conf
18:22 jurov trinque, livecd with eulora autostarted?
18:22 ben_vulpes neat, danielpbarron
18:22 trinque jurov: exercise left to reader
18:23 trinque mod6: ping ya with a torrent in a bit
18:23 trinque image is signed by my key
18:26 ben_vulpes neat, trinque
18:26 ben_vulpes ALL I HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE IS NEATS
18:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32554 @ 0.00035287 = 11.4873 BTC [+]
18:47 Adlai how do you like your whisky, ben_vulpes
18:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00035127 = 12.9619 BTC [-]
18:54 ben_vulpes on the rocks
19:00 mod6 trinque: thanks!
19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92700 @ 0.00034618 = 32.0909 BTC [-]
19:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00034618 = 19.3515 BTC [-]
19:21 shinohai http://41.media.tumblr.com/ce6c62fe7f1bc60d2a1e5698ad853e76/tumblr_nit4lkwhYG1smjc75o1_1280.jpg
19:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gjy6VG )
19:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85400 @ 0.00035127 = 29.9985 BTC [+]
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 137250 @ 0.00034618 = 47.5132 BTC [-]
19:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57550 @ 0.00034618 = 19.9227 BTC [-]
19:49 mircea_popescu !up referredbyloper
19:55 trinque mod6: see if you can pull this down http://dpaste.com/2AH328W.txt
19:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MgDJEq )
19:55 trinque that's a signed torrent file
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20:46 scoopbot_revived Eulora! http://trilema.com/2015/eulora/
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21:22 mod6 trinque: i've got it, thanks
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21:54 danielpbarron !up NewLiberty
21:57 NewLiberty Is it ironic that you !up me, when it is your -1 rating that prevents me from doing so myself?
21:57 NewLiberty You're just making more work for yourself. lol
21:58 NewLiberty Looks like assbot changed from needing >=0 to needing >0 for !up
22:01 danielpbarron i think it was always that way
22:02 danielpbarron do you still think a hard fork is "acceptable for expediency's sake" ?
22:17 decimation https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9676630 < the shit behind HN ratings hits
22:17 assbot A few things. I was not planning on getting involved in this conversation, but s... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXb90p )
22:17 decimation "A few things. I was not planning on getting involved in this conversation, but since dang decided to un-flag it, I'm going to leave one or two comments, but don't plan on sticking around very much. "
22:18 decimation This Steve Klabnik guy obviously calls shots on HN, and is also a left-wing radical. Apparently he was also among those who protested yarvin on twitter.
22:20 BingoBoingo I'm just wondering... How the fuck does one get labeled too conservative for a conference in Missouri?
22:21 decimation BingoBoingo: that's what I thought
22:21 decimation link from the thread: http://pando.com/2015/02/04/the-geometry-of-censorship-and-satire/ < "horizontal censorship"
22:21 assbot The geometry of censorship and satire | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXbvnK )
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22:43 mircea_popescu decimation who is steve klabnik and why would anyone care ?
22:44 decimation apparently he's among those who 'influenced' the guy in charge of this conference in st louis
22:45 mircea_popescu http://www.infoq.com/resource/presentations/API-Open/en/mediumimage/Stevebig.jpg << no, nevermind.
22:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXcTa1 )
22:45 decimation in order to convince him to blackball yarvin from the conference
22:47 decimation interestingly the guy who is organizing the conference apparently works on clojure
22:47 cazalla why do those guys always look the same
22:47 mircea_popescu cazalla for the same reason starlets generally look the same.
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23:04 decimation !up agorecki
23:04 mircea_popescu decimation i have my doubts re this entire calling shots thing, but whatevs.
23:05 decimation well, 'calling the shots' as in 'appear vaguely threatening on twitter'
23:05 mircea_popescu it is every adolescent boy's dearest dream and hottest hope to misrepresent himself as a shot-caller in company,
23:05 decimation it seems likely that he either 'flagged' the post or knew a moderator who could
23:05 mircea_popescu and it is every neotenic usian's highest aspiration, to remain a derpy adolescent way in his 50s
23:05 decimation not exactly high in the social world if you think about it though
23:06 mircea_popescu or fail that, it seems likely he typed words in a web box.
23:06 decimation hehe yeah possibly
23:06 decimation "this guy's a racist mmkay"
23:06 mircea_popescu is yarvin even racist, other than simply being stupid ?
23:07 decimation no, not really
23:07 decimation I mean, he certainly affirms the falsehoods of egalitarianism
23:08 mircea_popescu i thought racism was when you wouldn't fuck naomi campbell or shakira because you don't stick your junk in garbage.
23:08 decimation heh I guess, in which case I suspect a significant number of white males in the us would qualify
23:09 mircea_popescu speaking of which, wtf's going on in the country of the fair ? back in the 80s they had superhot black supermodels and blondy madonna was tag teaming them with rappers
23:09 mircea_popescu today ? who's the campbell of today so i'm not stuck using old prunes in my illustrative koans.
23:09 decimation you know it's a good point. somehow the whole 'multiracial marriage/dating' thing has gone way off the burner in the us
23:10 decimation I mean, you are a racist if you think every human isn't identical, but not if you only date white girls
23:11 decimation interestingly yarvin himself appeared in the thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9676813
23:11 assbot "He has *literally* written that several of his co-speakers are genetically more... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXeaO8 )
23:11 mircea_popescu i'm sure there must be a wankfest dedicated to this topic somewhere, purring in the basement waiting for its time to feed at the public trough
23:12 decimation yeah the overton window hasn't extended there yet
23:12 decimation "Frankly, I'm actually considering recanting. Who wouldn't rather be Galileo than Giordano Bruno? But recanting is a serious matter - it's the sort of thing you need to get right the first time."
23:13 mircea_popescu attention whores trying to bilk attention out of attention whores ?
23:13 mircea_popescu change channel plox ty.
23:13 decimation hehe yeah
23:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156878 << imagine, if the identity theft protection thing stole your identity!
23:14 assbot Logged on 07-06-2015 18:58:33; decimation: I suspect many of these 'free giveaways' for credit monitoring are merely trojan horse marketing schemes
23:14 mircea_popescu and worked it like the old style porn scams, just keep billing all your ccs
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23:14 decimation yeah I think it kinda works that way actually
23:15 decimation it's one of those things you can call up old ladies and sell to them
23:15 mircea_popescu pretty cool.
23:19 mircea_popescu oglaf is becoming too hermetic for my meagre powers.
23:20 mircea_popescu maybe i don't have enough sex
23:22 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156939 << as you can see, it doesn't do anything.
23:22 assbot Logged on 07-06-2015 22:15:30; danielpbarron: ^ all the users idling in here with a key registered and 0 in assbot's l2
23:27 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbj2k1jyfv1r2a4juo1_500.gif
23:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXeRXW )
23:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33950 @ 0.00034615 = 11.7518 BTC [-] {2}
23:43 decimation ben_vulpes: it wasn't in reference to this article, that's why I linked it
23:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49750 @ 0.0003496 = 17.3926 BTC [+]
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