| 00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the latter. the former only exists in imagination. |
| 00:00 |
trinque |
meanwhile looting it |
| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: this is likely to be repeated, and next on the chopping block is probably 'coinbase' |
| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
the new gox |
| 00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
there is not enough bakshees to pass up the chain, because bitcoin is not fiat. they need > 9k% to be satisfied. |
| 00:00 |
trinque |
oh, certainly. |
| 00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform coinbase is definitely on the chopping block. |
| 00:00 |
mircea_popescu |
teh republic never liked it. |
| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
meant, that it'll be flushed by usg |
| 00:01 |
asciilifeform |
rather than nailed in the wild |
| 00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
you generally overtate the efficacity of the derp. |
| 00:01 |
asciilifeform |
from outside of the walls it'll look quite like a 'goxing' yes. |
| 00:01 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the one thing they know how to do is arson |
| 00:01 |
asciilifeform |
in all the various senses of the word |
| 00:01 |
mircea_popescu |
but think of it this way : never, in the history of tyhe world, did ~they~ ever destroy anything. |
| 00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
if they can, they'll just fgill it with straw and keep pretending. |
| 00:02 |
asciilifeform |
yes, it's the flames that destroy, not the boy with the matches |
| 00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
mtgox's fall took specific, directed pushing |
| 00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
and they tried tooth and nail to keep on. |
| 00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
so did everything else, so does everything else. |
| 00:02 |
mircea_popescu |
the woman that is the state yields eventually, once squeezed enough. not before. |
| 00:02 |
asciilifeform |
one could even argue that gox is not dead, but rather passed the torch to coinbase/bitstamp |
| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
in the same way as ibm passed it to microshit |
| 00:03 |
asciilifeform |
and microshit is now passing it to google et al |
| 00:04 |
asciilifeform |
the unmistakeable attributes of 'goxitude' - 'kyc/aml' crapolade, mysterious freezes/'questionings'/account dissolutions/'verifications' - carry on |
| 00:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127600 @ 0.00033284 = 42.4704 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
as do the basic mechanics of a goxatron - encouragement of off-chain payments via 'codes' rather than proper btc, goading users to keep coin in -exchange's- wallet, etc. |
| 00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
yes yes. in any case, mtgox ended exactly the way faux gpg, or system d, or gavincoin, or the sec or the fbi are gonna end |
| 00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
we're going to charge particular ineptitude, and employ ridicule |
| 00:06 |
mircea_popescu |
they're going to spin and deny and pretend nothing happened. |
| 00:07 |
mircea_popescu |
by the book. |
| 00:07 |
mircea_popescu |
an' with that, i bid you all something or the other! |
| 00:08 |
decimation |
here's how to 'out-scam' the printing press: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/06/01/book-review-the-redistribution-recession/ < "In other words we?re trending toward a society where about half of the working-age adults will kill themselves with 60-80-hour weeks while the other half will relax on the sofa." |
| 00:08 |
assbot |
Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Book Review: The Redistribution Recession ... ( http://bit.ly/1MrNSyK ) |
| 00:10 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: l0l, 'trending toward' |
| 00:10 |
decimation |
heh yeah |
| 00:10 |
asciilifeform |
i suppose, because the famous '47%' isn't quite half |
| 00:11 |
asciilifeform |
the key unwritten truth here is that virtually all employed folks in usa are 'on welfare' |
| 00:12 |
decimation |
^ yes, this is true, and most of their welfare comes in 'tax expendatures' |
| 00:12 |
asciilifeform |
because, as described very clearly by tlp (that piece cached on mircea_popescu's www) - they either carry out work directly for usg organs (official or otherwise, e.g., microshit) or perform services for the former |
| 00:13 |
decimation |
god forbid that we give up the health care tax break or mortgage interest tax break |
| 00:13 |
asciilifeform |
e.g., cook in a restaurant frequented by builders who install glass in office towers paid for by bezzlatron |
| 00:13 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yes indeed, nobody in the us is more than two or three degrees from usg |
| 00:14 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: or your business is frequented by those who get checks from the treasury for being poor or whatever |
| 00:14 |
asciilifeform |
^ as described by tlp |
| 00:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-01-2015#993651 |
| 00:14 |
assbot |
Logged on 27-01-2015 05:02:36; mircea_popescu: "The system not only pays poor people, it employs lots and lots of almost poor people. I'm not saying this is a good thing, or a desirable thing, I am simply stating a fact. Some of these are direct government jobs (e.g. staff down at the SSI office) and some are pretend private sector jobs. If you're a psychiatrist at an inner city clinic, you may think you're an independent contractor, but you're r |
| 00:15 |
decimation |
yes when barely half of your able adults are working while 40% are being paid to slack, it's pretty obvious that the whole thing is a confidence scheme |
| 00:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45700 @ 0.00033241 = 15.1911 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 00:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54650 @ 0.00033167 = 18.1258 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 01:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00034063 = 24.321 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:10 |
danielpbarron |
!up shmadz |
| 01:12 |
shmadz |
thank you, I'm trying to figure a way to do gpg on android platform. is this possible? |
| 01:13 |
danielpbarron |
possible but not recommended |
| 01:13 |
shmadz |
for security, right? |
| 01:13 |
danielpbarron |
keybase is a way, but you're probably better off getting a real computer first |
| 01:17 |
shmadz |
my "real computer" is not with me always. or even often. I was hoping to figure a way to do secure android? |
| 01:18 |
trinque |
shmadz: no pill is going to secure android on a cellphone |
| 01:20 |
danielpbarron |
you can have "secure cellphone" (just for voice) if you run irc on a computer that doesn't turn off, and connect to that with your cell phone |
| 01:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55466 @ 0.00035075 = 19.4547 BTC [+] |
| 01:21 |
trinque |
!s specificity of the diddling |
| 01:21 |
assbot |
4 results for 'specificity of the diddling' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=specificity+of+the+diddling |
| 01:22 |
trinque |
danielpbarron: yeah I use a similar setup |
| 01:22 |
trinque |
shmadz: never trust a phone with anything you can't afford to lose |
| 01:22 |
danielpbarron |
worst someone can do with compromised irc box is talk as me for as long as i don't notice |
| 01:22 |
danielpbarron |
whereas under gribble, the worst they could do was change my key to their key |
| 01:23 |
shmadz |
ok, so there is no known solution for secure, pocket sized, computer? |
| 01:23 |
trinque |
shmadz: to the logs with you! |
| 01:23 |
danielpbarron |
depends.. how pig are your pockets? |
| 01:24 |
trinque |
shmadz: define secure |
| 01:24 |
trinque |
important to define terms |
| 01:25 |
danielpbarron |
you can read the log securely from your phone, although even this is much more enjoyable on a real computer |
| 01:25 |
shmadz |
right, I want a solution that is roughly the same size as Samsung note, and runs native Linux, or some secure version of android, if that even exists |
| 01:26 |
trinque |
shmadz: again, you need to define secure |
| 01:26 |
trinque |
reason being, should you specifically define it, you may find there is no existing device that meets the spec |
| 01:26 |
trinque |
or otherwise, it's important to note which actions can and cannot be securely taken on a phone |
| 01:26 |
trinque |
which is to say, if you wouldn't do it outside the police station, don't do it on a phone either |
| 01:26 |
trinque |
should be obvious |
| 01:27 |
trinque |
if you want a phone which does not track your every step, you will not find it |
| 01:27 |
trinque |
nor one that respects the privacy of the data you store on it |
| 01:27 |
trinque |
so on |
| 01:28 |
danielpbarron |
shmadz, if you find yourself in the situation where you need to gpg on the go, you are finding yourself in the wrong situations |
| 01:28 |
trinque |
well put |
| 01:29 |
shmadz |
thank you, not the answer I'm looking for, but this makes me think there is an opportunity to make the device I want. why is there not secure Linux that can run on a phone-like device? |
| 01:29 |
trinque |
man, I dunno that there's a secure linux either |
| 01:29 |
trinque |
it's not a 1 or 0 thing |
| 01:29 |
trinque |
depends on who the adversary is |
| 01:29 |
danielpbarron |
reminds me of the failed key signing party at the last porc fest -- the one after which nobody ended up getting their key signed because all the time was taken setting up a temporary key server when all we had to do was trade fingerprints and sign it later back at home |
| 01:35 |
shmadz |
ok, thanks for your help, and thanks for the !up, I think I'm gonna try a remote server to manage the keys, and just remote in from the phone? I don't see any secure solution to my problem atm |
| 01:36 |
danielpbarron |
the keys don't need to be on the remote server |
| 01:36 |
danielpbarron |
another computer can and should be used to sign and decrypt, and this computer should not be connected to any networks |
| 01:38 |
shmadz |
ok, just like offline signing bitcoin transactions? so you use USB to transfer? or you do it by hand? Or what? |
| 01:39 |
danielpbarron |
some use a qr code scanner |
| 01:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47429 @ 0.00034021 = 16.1358 BTC [-] |
| 01:40 |
danielpbarron |
!up shmadz |
| 01:42 |
shmadz |
ok, thanks Daniel, thanks tribute, |
| 01:42 |
shmadz |
*tribute |
| 01:43 |
shmadz |
grr, can you tell I'm on a phone? *trinque |
| 01:43 |
danielpbarron |
i turn off autocorrect; it drove me crazy |
| 01:45 |
shmadz |
yeah, this is a work phone, which is even less secure, so I have to type on it all the time, which probably means everything I |
| 01:45 |
shmadz |
type is being tracked |
| 01:46 |
trinque |
everything you everything is being tracked; happy 2015, lol |
| 01:52 |
asciilifeform |
;;later tell mircea_popescu http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FE99DB4C8A6980859D6C2322594C1B2CB4348ECB0F9BA3A7275285C7F3D02F7F |
| 01:52 |
assbot |
Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1eSBzAk ) |
| 01:52 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
!up Vexual |
| 01:56 |
danielpbarron |
that p is apparently the 6th "Fermat number" |
| 01:56 |
asciilifeform |
!s 4294967297 |
| 01:56 |
assbot |
6 results for '4294967297' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=4294967297 |
| 01:57 |
asciilifeform |
extensively discussed |
| 01:57 |
asciilifeform |
it is guaranteed to be a factor in all moduli matching the 'magic 98' pattern |
| 01:57 |
asciilifeform |
as shown in http://dpaste.com/1TNXJDZ |
| 01:57 |
assbot |
dpaste: 1TNXJDZ: fffooo ... ( http://bit.ly/1eSCcKd ) |
| 01:57 |
asciilifeform |
you can prove this fact |
| 01:57 |
asciilifeform |
but i am leaving it as an exercise |
| 01:58 |
asciilifeform |
(hint: 4294967297 == 2^32 + 1) |
| 01:59 |
asciilifeform |
(Apocalyptic may have posted the proof somewhere in the logs already. i can't recall.) |
| 02:00 |
asciilifeform |
i will note that -not all- phuctored moduli to date are in 'magic98', nor have all of the 98 been (thus far) phuctored or even attempted |
| 02:01 |
asciilifeform |
but elementarily, all of them are expected to appear prior to the end of the churn of the sks dump circa last month |
| 02:01 |
asciilifeform |
(on account of all of them being divisible by 4294967297) |
| 02:04 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> what i did not have time to do is to measure whether this had the intended effect. << how would you measure fragging? |
| 02:05 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: can only be (easily) measured indirectly |
| 02:05 |
asciilifeform |
sorta like 'dark matter' |
| 02:06 |
asciilifeform |
that is, process has heavy 'footprint' but sum of allocations is a small fraction of it |
| 02:07 |
asciilifeform |
the only conclusive test for fragging is manually sweating over a memory dump 'with magnifying glass' |
| 02:08 |
asciilifeform |
(there may exist an instrumented allocator which will actually complain about being unable to find an appropriately-sized free block, but i am unaware of it) |
| 02:08 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm starting to not be surprised by the failure of modern computing tools |
| 02:08 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes was at some point surprised ?! |
| 02:08 |
ben_vulpes |
i learned then next to the lathe |
| 02:08 |
ben_vulpes |
i expected them to work as the lathe does |
| 02:09 |
ben_vulpes |
well, i learned their use. can't say as i 'know' them. |
| 02:09 |
asciilifeform |
http://totalpict.com/images/63/63378912550372ebd2231f.jpeg << like this ? |
| 02:09 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1eSDeWw ) |
| 02:09 |
asciilifeform |
^ probably most famous lathe of all time |
| 02:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32771 @ 0.00034021 = 11.149 BTC [-] |
| 02:10 |
asciilifeform |
imagine if computer worked like this. |
| 02:10 |
ben_vulpes |
lathe fits in head. |
| 02:10 |
asciilifeform |
sometimes - head fits in lathe. |
| 02:10 |
asciilifeform |
that schmuck's did. |
| 02:10 |
Vexual |
liveleaks full of it |
| 02:12 |
Vexual |
mircea_popescu: there's always a way. <im glad KRS1 is alive |
| 02:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11426 @ 0.00033133 = 3.7858 BTC [-] |
| 02:18 |
trinque |
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=de2_1326399606 << god damn. |
| 02:18 |
assbot |
LiveLeak.com - machine accident - warning: extremely graphic ... ( http://bit.ly/1RO5GqT ) |
| 02:22 |
Vexual |
i took the lid of my psu and shorted the fuse after the ticking turned into complete failure |
| 02:23 |
Vexual |
nerd fireworks |
| 02:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53524 @ 0.00033005 = 17.6656 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:43 |
punkman |
assbot: #Justicefordillon Officer Involved - YouTube ... << why are usg cops so afraid of hands in pockets |
| 02:48 |
ben_vulpes |
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/crime/2015/05/28/three-people-shot-during-last-thursday-portland/28129499/ |
| 02:48 |
assbot |
Teen confesses in Last Thursday shooting, says someone eyed him ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARhTGK ) |
| 02:52 |
ben_vulpes |
someone eyed him, you see! |
| 02:53 |
punkman |
oic now |
| 02:53 |
punkman |
!up Vexual |
| 02:55 |
cazalla |
friday, friday, getting down on friday (finally) |
| 02:57 |
Vexual |
hey caz |
| 02:58 |
cazalla |
Vexual, arvo.. ya drinking? |
| 02:58 |
Vexual |
syntax error |
| 03:00 |
Vexual |
funny thing is if the internet ever breaks, id have to remember xanthyoss ham sign to find you, but yes |
| 03:00 |
cazalla |
VK2DIK? |
| 03:01 |
Vexual |
no something like S>>> |
| 03:01 |
Vexual |
i forget |
| 03:02 |
Vexual |
its an old callsign tho, itd be in bookshops |
| 03:02 |
cazalla |
i'm sober so not really following |
| 03:03 |
Vexual |
dude has a cool old ham callsign, he left here after a blue with dpb |
| 03:04 |
cazalla |
well, it wouldn't be VK2DIK on account he almost cut his off |
| 03:04 |
Vexual |
yeah, but he can prolly bed the shit to find a freq |
| 03:04 |
Vexual |
*bend |
| 03:05 |
cazalla |
got a radio? |
| 03:05 |
Vexual |
er maybe |
| 03:06 |
Vexual |
im not exactly licensed |
| 03:07 |
cazalla |
you can be VK4VEX |
| 03:08 |
Vexual |
ok-ay |
| 03:08 |
punkman |
!s blockchain radio |
| 03:08 |
assbot |
1 results for 'blockchain radio' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=blockchain+radio |
| 03:10 |
cazalla |
Vexual, get the cops up that way? |
| 03:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 264900 @ 0.000327 = 86.6223 BTC [-] {4} |
| 03:11 |
Vexual |
i dont have a uhf scanner |
| 03:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00033417 = 18.8138 BTC [+] |
| 03:13 |
Vexual |
taxis and cops i dont care |
| 03:14 |
cazalla |
still get most of the regional ambos down here on analogue |
| 03:14 |
cazalla |
geelong, traralgon |
| 03:14 |
cazalla |
ballarat too |
| 03:18 |
Vexual |
so towtrucks run on ambo now? |
| 03:18 |
Vexual |
thats kinda sad |
| 03:22 |
punkman |
http://samy.pl/opensesame/ |
| 03:22 |
assbot |
OpenSesame - hacking garages in seconds ... ( http://bit.ly/1Io2CA4 ) |
| 03:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93616 @ 0.00032551 = 30.4729 BTC [-] |
| 03:30 |
punkman |
!up Vexual |
| 03:41 |
Vexual |
opening garages could be bad for ur health |
| 03:42 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa64gOwuIyE |
| 03:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44401 @ 0.00033046 = 14.6728 BTC [+] {2} |
| 03:56 |
punkman |
http://store.steampowered.com/hardware PCs that look like a console, wonder how this will go |
| 03:56 |
assbot |
Steam Hardware Pre-Order ... ( http://bit.ly/1HP7nNF ) |
| 03:58 |
Vexual |
nvidea too |
| 04:12 |
cazalla |
not sure why anyone who uses steam on desktop would buy any of that |
| 04:12 |
cazalla |
!up Vexual |
| 04:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.20538785 = 2.0539 BTC [-] |
| 04:16 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVP_w1rQweE |
| 04:17 |
Vexual |
meanwhile BB up in the smart part of town... |
| 04:19 |
Vexual |
caz i saw that neat little lezzo on news 24 this morn singing the praises of melb. wow |
| 04:19 |
Vexual |
thats a singer |
| 04:20 |
Vexual |
checked the hong kong investors, the numbers checked |
| 04:21 |
Vexual |
next month 500k of ur 5 milly must be vc or other new shit |
| 04:21 |
Vexual |
get ltd now |
| 04:24 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3WFkfME_Q0 |
| 04:26 |
cazalla |
Vexual, what lezzo? |
| 04:26 |
Vexual |
govt suggestions, she was on ellen |
| 04:27 |
Vexual |
i forget the name, shes better than that tho |
| 04:27 |
Vexual |
singing about melb re |
| 04:28 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y |
| 04:33 |
punkman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3WFkfME_Q0 |
| 04:33 |
assbot |
Chance The Rapper - SURF [Full Album] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1ARo3a1 ) |
| 04:34 |
punkman |
this kid has some nice tunes |
| 04:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142548 @ 0.00032478 = 46.2967 BTC [-] {4} |
| 04:34 |
Vexual |
aussie? |
| 04:36 |
Vexual |
nope |
| 04:37 |
punkman |
"Bennett was listed #7 on the "Forbes 30 Under 30" 2015 music list" "gave a lecture at Harvard University's Hiphop Archive & Research Institute" |
| 04:37 |
Vexual |
thats her' |
| 04:37 |
punkman |
so Forbes does music now, and Harvard has a hiphop institute |
| 04:37 |
Vexual |
link |
| 04:39 |
Vexual |
wtach the greek squirrel it |
| 04:39 |
Vexual |
what the link |
| 04:40 |
Vexual |
yes its new |
| 04:42 |
punkman |
http://hutchinscenter.fas.harvard.edu/hiphop-archive-research-institute |
| 04:42 |
assbot |
Hiphop Archive & Research Institute | Hutchins Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsffIW ) |
| 04:42 |
punkman |
!up Vexual |
| 04:43 |
Vexual |
:) curly |
| 04:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12962 @ 0.00033417 = 4.3315 BTC [+] |
| 04:51 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcnIhzaDTd0 |
| 04:53 |
Vexual |
real shit |
| 04:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67899 @ 0.00034389 = 23.3498 BTC [+] {2} |
| 04:57 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcnIhzaDTd0 |
| 04:58 |
cazalla |
ya know if you played good music Vexual, i might be tempted to drink |
| 04:59 |
Vexual |
im trying to save you |
| 04:59 |
cazalla |
bit over a week since i've imbibed |
| 05:00 |
Vexual |
so go to aa\ |
| 05:00 |
Vexual |
plents of girls that wanna stop |
| 05:00 |
cazalla |
nah i'm good, don't have the shimmy shimmy shakes |
| 05:01 |
Vexual |
i shake around 9 am |
| 05:01 |
cazalla |
so, what, get em liquored up and laid? |
| 05:01 |
Vexual |
no |
| 05:01 |
Vexual |
stop b4 you need em |
| 05:02 |
Vexual |
virginia sees me to 11 |
| 05:04 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzfwI9fhA3I |
| 05:04 |
scoopbot_revived |
Company Pays $14,000 Ransom In Bitcoin, Attackers Return For More http://qntra.net/2015/06/company-pays-14000-ransom-in-bitcoin-attackers-return-for-more/ |
| 05:05 |
Vexual |
unnnamed co |
| 05:07 |
cazalla |
prob the cop shop itself |
| 05:07 |
Vexual |
no morgan shot ell them cunts, the movies sympathetic tho |
| 05:08 |
Vexual |
in fact the dv version has all the blood n gore |
| 05:08 |
cazalla |
gee i tell ya Vexual.. sober on a friday night, don't know what to do with myself |
| 05:09 |
Vexual |
watch a bushranger movie |
| 05:09 |
cazalla |
gonna watch blue murder |
| 05:09 |
cazalla |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Murder_%28miniseries%29 |
| 05:09 |
assbot |
Blue Murder (miniseries) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1MsgXKu ) |
| 05:09 |
Vexual |
cool shit |
| 05:14 |
cazalla |
!up Vexual |
| 05:15 |
Vexual |
thankyou kindly |
| 05:16 |
Vexual |
you know ned kelly went around yelling about morgan |
| 05:16 |
cazalla |
morgan who |
| 05:17 |
Vexual |
dunno, the nushranger, starts wid a d |
| 05:18 |
Vexual |
\cops wer after him for years |
| 05:18 |
cazalla |
the abo? |
| 05:18 |
Vexual |
'he was irish |
| 05:18 |
cazalla |
ah i thought you mean someone like malcolm naden |
| 05:19 |
Vexual |
whats a naden? u sure youre not drunk now? |
| 05:19 |
cazalla |
the abo ned kelly guy |
| 05:19 |
Vexual |
sounds like a tenni splayer |
| 05:20 |
cazalla |
nah some abo that went rambo on some cops and stayed in the bush for years |
| 05:20 |
cazalla |
top bloke |
| 05:20 |
Vexual |
yeah, maybe |
| 05:23 |
cazalla |
bbl |
| 05:24 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NVOawOXxSA < melb |
| 05:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55950 @ 0.00032158 = 17.9924 BTC [-] {2} |
| 05:36 |
shinohai |
gm #bitcoin-assets |
| 05:36 |
Vexual |
ford |
| 05:36 |
shinohai |
kek |
| 05:38 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwacyd9cqhQ true |
| 05:41 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDLeo4lcCg ss shes ss upercharged |
| 05:52 |
wyrdmantis |
;;bc,stats |
| 05:52 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 359508 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1355 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 8 hours, 16 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47374701445.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.45155 |
| 06:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131250 @ 0.00033211 = 43.5894 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 06:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86934 @ 0.00033481 = 29.1064 BTC [+] {4} |
| 06:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123809 @ 0.00032047 = 39.6771 BTC [-] {2} |
| 06:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12741 @ 0.00031746 = 4.0448 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 06:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.20538785 = 2.0539 BTC [-] |
| 07:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166750 @ 0.00034546 = 57.6055 BTC [+] {2} |
| 07:19 |
fluffypony |
https://www.blackhat.com/us-15/briefings.html#the-memory-sinkhole-unleashing-an-x86-design-flaw-allowing-universal-privilege-escalation |
| 07:19 |
assbot |
Black Hat USA 2015 | Briefings ... ( http://bit.ly/1IoA8pO ) |
| 07:31 |
shinohai |
http://www.visir.is/apartment-under-siege-by-icelandic-police-for-six-hours-turns-out-to-be-empty/article/2015150609695 |
| 07:41 |
punkman |
Over a hundred people were evacuated from an apartment building Tuesday evening after reports of gunshots from the balcony of an apartment. During a six hour long operation, police surrounded the apartment and tried to contact the gunman before discovering that the apartment was empty. |
| 07:41 |
punkman |
good one |
| 07:41 |
shinohai |
But, I'm sure they had credible intel * |
| 07:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97243 @ 0.00033907 = 32.9722 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 08:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36250 @ 0.00034251 = 12.416 BTC [+] |
| 08:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38150 @ 0.00034251 = 13.0668 BTC [+] |
| 08:23 |
mircea_popescu |
it occurs to me someone should perhaps point out to that lying scumbag andresen that https://bitbet.us/bet/1093/bitcoin-main-net-block-size-to-increase-in/ |
| 08:23 |
assbot |
BitBet - Bitcoin main net block size to increase in 2015 :: 1.75 B (12%) on Yes, 13.09 B (88%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 51`751 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KITrYz ) |
| 08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
all these imaginary bitcoin businesses and so on that supposedly support him could make a pretty penny bettinbg for the thing they allegedly support at 11:1. |
| 08:25 |
mircea_popescu |
funny how the buterin waterfal works. there's allegedly all these usg "companies" with "millions" in their coffers that have "investors" and whanot. meanwhile nobody can be arsed to buy any amount of their stock at a 50% to 90% discount. for like...a year now. |
| 08:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 274050 @ 0.0003385 = 92.7659 BTC [-] {2} |
| 08:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ethereum was going to be the bees knees for sure definitely absolutely. it even raised a shitton of btc, allegedly. except... not. not at all, not a little bit. |
| 08:26 |
shinohai |
rofl I must send out a taunting tweet |
| 08:26 |
mircea_popescu |
and so on and so forth, gavin's spoken to "economists" that agree with him except meanwhile they turn out to not exist and he has the support of business except all that business can't get a hundred bitcoin together. in which sense, it is obviously a subsection of the tardstalk forum - those guys got like 1k together to give marquardt so he could leave council housing. |
| 08:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.20538785 = 1.4377 BTC [-] |
| 08:28 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform 31 too huh. i notice something strange here, brb while i write it up. |
| 08:31 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov hanbot http://trilema.com/2015/mpif-fmpif-may-2015-statement/ btw. |
| 08:31 |
assbot |
MPIF (F.MPIF) May 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KIUnw3 ) |
| 08:31 |
mircea_popescu |
!up HostFat |
| 08:34 |
mircea_popescu |
hm, does anyone remember this excellent write-up of the videogaming industry wrt drivers ? it was a fable-like story, didn't name intel nvidia ati etc but described the interactions with game developers in some intricate detail. |
| 08:34 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun recall if i put it in here or not tho ;/ |
| 08:34 |
wyrdmantis |
hi HostFat |
| 08:35 |
mircea_popescu |
http://richg42.blogspot.com.ar/2014/05/the-truth-on-opengl-driver-quality.html |
| 08:35 |
assbot |
Rich Geldreich's Tech Blog: The Truth on OpenGL Driver Quality ... ( http://bit.ly/1H87U11 ) |
| 08:35 |
mircea_popescu |
thank you intel. |
| 08:35 |
shinohai |
For that special woman in your life, Nazi undies! http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/nazi-booty-eva-braun-panties-sale-ohio-article-1.2243354 |
| 08:35 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1H87Y0I ) |
| 08:43 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust HostFat |
| 08:43 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user HostFat: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=HostFat | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/HostFat/ |
| 08:43 |
mircea_popescu |
wyrdmantis dja know the guy ? |
| 08:47 |
HostFat |
hi mircea |
| 08:47 |
HostFat |
I'm the italian moderator on bitcointalk |
| 08:47 |
mircea_popescu |
hey. wouldja mind getting into the wot, for one thing ? |
| 08:48 |
HostFat |
actually I'm really busy because I'm trasfering in another city on these 2 days |
| 08:48 |
HostFat |
*currently |
| 08:48 |
mircea_popescu |
well not this instant. generally. |
| 08:49 |
HostFat |
anyway, I'm also the one that has made a bet about the block size on bitbet :P |
| 08:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 408400 @ 0.00034698 = 141.7066 BTC [+] {6} |
| 08:49 |
mircea_popescu |
for the other thing : plox to not email bomb me ; bitbet's not keeping your bitcoin, rejected props get refunded as it gets around to it ; yeah 1 btc is prolly enough for that purpose ; if https://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ and https://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ being paid out isn't going to convince you i guess nothing will. |
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| 08:49 |
assbot |
BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.15 B (20%) on Yes, 4393.47 B (80%) on No | closed 3 months 2 weeks ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8aLqU ) |
| 08:49 |
assbot |
BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st :: 791.29 B (47%) on Yes, 898.53 B (53%) on No | closed 2 years 3 months ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8aLHj ) |
| 08:52 |
HostFat |
I did't know about the refund, good, than I'll make again the bet with 1 BTC at this time :) |
| 08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
gl. |
| 08:52 |
wyrdmantis |
mircea_popescu i know him, never met IRL, debated with him about blocksize change :) |
| 08:53 |
mircea_popescu |
oic. |
| 08:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88906 @ 0.00035141 = 31.2425 BTC [+] {3} |
| 08:58 |
scoopbot_revived |
The Nordic System, a new novel by Mircea Popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-nordic-system-a-new-novel-by-mircea-popescu/ |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell nubbins` ^ |
| 09:00 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 09:05 |
Pierre_Rochard |
;;later tell pete_dushenski clarifying that I am indeed not GBANGA! ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREGbLdOzfg ) and that I would’ve thought a greyhound bus would be a great way to launder money, but events proved otherwise |
| 09:05 |
assbot |
Steve Holt! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RPm0HM ) |
| 09:05 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 09:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89000 @ 0.00035281 = 31.4001 BTC [+] {2} |
| 09:10 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 09:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 395450 @ 0.00034097 = 134.8366 BTC [-] {4} |
| 09:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00033564 = 9.2637 BTC [-] |
| 09:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00035284 = 17.2892 BTC [+] |
| 09:30 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell cazalla "sum" of money, not "some" in your last article. |
| 09:30 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 09:31 |
pete_dushenski |
Pierre_Rochard: ha, classic show and classic scene ! |
| 09:31 |
pete_dushenski |
if i needed to move $1 mn + i'm not sure that i'd take any form of public transportation |
| 09:32 |
pete_dushenski |
why not just hop in saddam, throw in a radar detector (legal here ftr), and obey the traffic laws up until i arrived at my destination |
| 09:32 |
pete_dushenski |
(saddam = merc) |
| 09:39 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: a novel ! |
| 09:40 |
pete_dushenski |
two thoughts : 1) i won't postpone (any more) weddings, 2) i do love 'that ancient story' |
| 09:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73500 @ 0.00034585 = 25.42 BTC [-] |
| 09:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63181 @ 0.00034171 = 21.5896 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24498 @ 0.00032635 = 7.9949 BTC [-] |
| 10:04 |
pete_dushenski |
;;ticker |
| 10:04 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.89, Best ask: 225.08, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 225.08, 24 hour volume: 18751.17657895, 24 hour low: 222.64, 24 hour high: 229.23, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 10:04 |
pete_dushenski |
;;nethash |
| 10:04 |
gribble |
343170046.183 |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski :p |
| 10:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155478 @ 0.00033088 = 51.4446 BTC [+] {2} |
| 10:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8614 @ 0.00033524 = 2.8878 BTC [+] |
| 10:26 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: Geldreich was a kind of GPU savant/whisperer iirc. And an advocate of Unix/Linux gaming. |
| 10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
| 10:28 |
thestringpuller |
The amazing thing is how Microsoft's plan for DirectX segmented the market like this (inconsistent GL drivers) |
| 10:28 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 10:31 |
thestringpuller |
Back when consoles were still kool tho, you could at least depend on Nintendo/Sony to have a sane third party get you drivers for the machine. |
| 10:31 |
thestringpuller |
consistent drivers* |
| 10:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25586 @ 0.00033217 = 8.4989 BTC [-] |
| 10:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50794 @ 0.00034869 = 17.7114 BTC [+] |
| 10:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.20538785 = 2.4647 BTC [-] |
| 10:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62534 @ 0.00035286 = 22.0657 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:06 |
williamdunne |
MPwilliamdunne: danielpbarron: Not sure why she couldn't have just come on here D: <<< Nah don't think Stoya ever did :/ That message was about Indian asking DPB to get my contact details for some reason |
| 11:10 |
shinohai |
LOL Xapo http://fortune.com/2015/06/04/xapo-lawsuit-fraud/ |
| |
↖ |
| 11:10 |
assbot |
This Lawsuit Could sink one of the hottest bitcoin companies - Fortune ... ( http://bit.ly/1KeZTZ6 ) |
| 11:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52350 @ 0.00034869 = 18.2539 BTC [-] |
| 11:18 |
pete_dushenski |
shinohai: heh. there's a reason they're listed on f.derp |
| 11:19 |
pete_dushenski |
and no amount of moving to switzerland can save them |
| 11:19 |
shinohai |
They have obnoxious ads everywhere offering 20k satoshi to sign up. wtf is that shit. |
| 11:20 |
pete_dushenski |
it's usual dangle-bait shit for shartups with moar capital than brains |
| 11:20 |
* |
williamdunne hasn't yet been subjected to obnoxious ads, except from Gem and *shudders* QuadrigaCX |
| 11:20 |
shinohai |
That's not even good dangle-bait. |
| 11:20 |
pete_dushenski |
no different than uber doing 'free' pick-ups for goodwill donations from people's houses |
| 11:21 |
pete_dushenski |
williamdunne: ya, qcx is everywhere. annoyingly. |
| 11:31 |
williamdunne |
I haven't seen it in maybe a week but for months I couldn't touch a video without having that stupid voice telling me I should use a Canadian exchange |
| 11:31 |
williamdunne |
WHY |
| 11:31 |
williamdunne |
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT |
| 11:39 |
williamdunne |
Nearly as derpy as the exchange bragging about FATCA compliance |
| 11:46 |
trinque |
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/05/hacked-federal-personnel-files-could-turn-employees-into-foreign-spies/ << check out that security theater FireEye interface |
| 11:46 |
assbot |
Hacked federal personnel files could turn employees into foreign spies ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8StFP ) |
| 11:47 |
trinque |
delusional bastards |
| 11:49 |
pete_dushenski |
ha, gee golly those sure are some pretty graphics. |
| 11:49 |
pete_dushenski |
nothing to hide there ! |
| 11:50 |
pete_dushenski |
because it's too hard to 'incentive' security without making it shiny |
| 11:50 |
pete_dushenski |
i swear this is a french thing |
| 11:50 |
pete_dushenski |
or at least i saw more of these 'shiny incentives' in the french part of switzerland than the german part |
| 11:51 |
pete_dushenski |
german part : spotless, not signs telling citizens to pick up trash, people just behave themselves |
| 11:51 |
trinque |
interesting |
| 11:51 |
trinque |
the only useful part of that screen is the log, and they gave it what, 5-10% of the real estate |
| 11:52 |
pete_dushenski |
french part : not so spotless (though hardly "dirty") with plenty of "fun" marketing ploys to encourage "right" behaviour |
| 11:52 |
pete_dushenski |
trinque: that 5-10% is important for actually working, but the other 90-95% is better at making it *look* like you're working |
| 11:53 |
pete_dushenski |
on something quite important and hollywood-esque, no less |
| 11:53 |
trinque |
sure, the other part gets fireeye paid |
| 11:53 |
trinque |
I think in the absence of any actual history, this is what americans do: imitate (their own terrible) film |
| 11:53 |
trinque |
it's just like the guys hunting Jack Bauer or whatever |
| 11:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102331 @ 0.0003487 = 35.6828 BTC [+] {3} |
| 11:54 |
asciilifeform |
;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cryptome.org/2015/06/dia-mil-spy-papers.htm << mega-l0l |
| 11:54 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1H8UPVm ) |
| 11:54 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 11:55 |
asciilifeform |
;;later tell mircea_popescu in other news, http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7382BEE1309329B35A14D11394BC4068C4491033B855ED56B7CBE15AE0EB9A2A and http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/709FF94FF727A8490E99459EEC2989C1EB80FE9A03DF0F1DA6911EB4D5497907 |
| 11:55 |
assbot |
Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8V1nr ) |
| 11:55 |
assbot |
Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8V4zz ) |
| 11:55 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 11:55 |
trinque |
if I find the time I may compile a recent history of the chinese kicking our asses |
| 11:56 |
trinque |
I bet the chinese version of that screen does what it's supposed to, at a bare minimum |
| 11:57 |
asciilifeform |
http://cryptome.org/2015/06/cyber-spy-nyt-15-0604.pdf << latest usg mega-l0l. massive and very tedious slide deck of pseudolegalisms |
| 11:59 |
pete_dushenski |
"PRISM is one of the most valuable, unique, and productive accesses for NSA – don’t miss out on your targets." |
| 12:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193900 @ 0.00035302 = 68.4506 BTC [+] |
| 12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform since you're here : http://trilema.com/2015/the-strange-case-of-the-unentropic-entropy-and-other-bedtime-stories-of-primes-and-people/ |
| 12:03 |
assbot |
The strange case of the unentropic entropy and other bedtime stories of primes and people. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8Xpuk ) |
| 12:06 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: afaik the distribution of factors in random large N is an open problem |
| 12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, but seems to me the proposition that "if you pick a random number, the odds of it being divisible by 17 are 1 in 17" is fairly uncontroversial. |
| 12:07 |
pete_dushenski |
"the TIC and NETWORZ consolidation initiative is behind schedule and unlikely to achieve its goal of delivering less than 100 connections either in short- or mid-term timeframes." << not saying this is an easy task, but holy shit does the manhattan project *feel* like it was 3 generations ago. what goals can usg hope to accomplish these days, other than writing more pieces of paper and making more pp slides ? |
| 12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
seeing how every 17th number etc. |
| 12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski myeah. |
| 12:09 |
pete_dushenski |
every single last one of the 'initiatives' outlined in that document are under-funded, poorly specified, and behind schedule |
| 12:10 |
pete_dushenski |
unless the initiative was just a 'plan' |
| 12:10 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: also looks like you did the 'magic' and non-magic keys together |
| 12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
so i did. |
| 12:12 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: we might have a case of the proverbial 'randomly wired neural network, close your eyes and the room is dark' on our hands. these N were not crapped our by dice, but are permuted versions of properly-generated N. and could have interesting mathematical properties |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda what im inching towards : the plain observation that the odds for this situation so far look like ~1% is something |
| 12:16 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-06-2015#1155219 << i have nfi when or how xapo got to be "one of the hottest". it's not even clear it ever existed. |
| 12:16 |
assbot |
Logged on 05-06-2015 15:10:32; shinohai: LOL Xapo http://fortune.com/2015/06/04/xapo-lawsuit-fraud/ |
| 12:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127650 @ 0.000354 = 45.1881 BTC [+] {3} |
| 12:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://cryptome.org/2015/06/cyber-spy-nyt-15-0604-2.pdf >> http://dpaste.com/2WR0X9E.txt << lulzy |
| 12:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1FywOCD ) |
| 12:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1FywR10 ) |
| 12:20 |
scoopbot_revived |
The strange case of the unentropic entropy and other bedtime stories of primes and people. http://trilema.com/2015/the-strange-case-of-the-unentropic-entropy-and-other-bedtime-stories-of-primes-and-people/ |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
!rated wences |
| 12:24 |
assbot |
wences is not registered in WoT. |
| 12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
hm. |
| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform what's noteworthy in either those cryptome links ? |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"If you live in an expensive city and are acquainted with families collecting welfare the book confirms what you might have noticed, i.e., that it would be irrational for the adults in the family to enter the workforce. Here in Cambridge, Massachusetts, for example, the welfare families that I have spent the most time with occupy apartments with a market rent of about $4,500 per month ($54,000 per year in post-tax inco |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
me) in a building with a swimming pool, two gyms, and a variety of other luxurious facilities. Their health care is free through some combination of Medicaid, Obamacare, and a city-run health system. Their food is mostly free through food stamps. They can get cash from TANF and some similar programs. They would need to earn at least $160,000 per year pre-tax to obtain the same standard of living at market prices. Howev |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
er, even if someone were to offer the adults in the family a $160,000 per year job it would not be rational for them to accept it. If they were ever to lose that job it would take many years of paperwork, bureaucracy, and waiting lists to get back to their current welfare lifestyle." |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
spend more than it costs to run an african/southeast asian village for an entire year to keep a couple tards and their ill behaved, poorly brought up, genetically deffective offspring on reddit. |
| 12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
and this is supposed to be sustainable or something ? |
| 12:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88550 @ 0.0003394 = 30.0539 BTC [-] |
| 12:37 |
pete_dushenski |
to quote myself : "So let me get this straight, “sustainable” doesn’t mean “long-lasting, likely to perpetuate, and likely to lead to the fullness of human flourishing” so much as “designed to give idiots resources without also teaching them how to think well enough to distribute said resources with a view towards the long-term.”" |
| 12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
guess so. |
| 12:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84500 @ 0.00034708 = 29.3283 BTC [+] {3} |
| 12:58 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: what's noteworthy... << the sheer lameness of the dissertation titles |
| 12:58 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: as for the 2nd, the idiot flailing re: 'cyber attack' |
| 12:59 |
asciilifeform |
<mircea_popescu> spend more than it costs to run an african/southeast asian village... << it is not clear to me that this is so. they aren't being given actual solid money, note. they are given bezzlars, most of which come back to the loop immediately |
| 12:59 |
asciilifeform |
the 160k 'can't buy turkeys' |
| 13:00 |
asciilifeform |
or crates of kalash |
| 13:10 |
ben_vulpes |
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2015/06/bill-nye-the-universe-will-provide/ |
| 13:10 |
assbot |
Bill Nye: The Universe Will Provide (NSFW) | The Big Picture ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcTDPP ) |
| 13:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42750 @ 0.00034526 = 14.7599 BTC [-] |
| 13:11 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: lols |
| 13:14 |
pete_dushenski |
pretty much just same old idiots running around using larger-than-life forces to explain their existences |
| 13:14 |
pete_dushenski |
s/universe/god |
| 13:14 |
pete_dushenski |
just the secular scientistic use of the same term |
| 13:15 |
pete_dushenski |
without any of the "i'll put it in god's hands" or "god only knows" deference, sadly |
| 13:17 |
pete_dushenski |
"Nye was born on November 27, 1955, in Washington, D.C., to Jacqueline (née Jenkins; 1921–2000), a codebreaker during World War II, and Edwin Darby "Ned" Nye (1917–97), also a World War II veteran, whose experience without electricity in a Japanese prisoner of war camp led him to become a sundial enthusiast." |
| 13:17 |
pete_dushenski |
asketh of retardopedia for lulz, and lulz ye shall receive. |
| 13:18 |
pete_dushenski |
"i know, let's let anyone who wants to edit articles have admin privileges because wanting is the only barrier to entry our society has !" |
| 13:19 |
pete_dushenski |
cripes. |
| 13:20 |
trinque |
ben_vulpes: heh that one had me roaring |
| 13:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89850 @ 0.00033896 = 30.4556 BTC [-] {2} |
| 13:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168638 @ 0.00033541 = 56.5629 BTC [-] {2} |
| 13:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.20427544 = 1.0214 BTC [-] |
| 13:32 |
thestringpuller |
;;bc,stats |
| 13:32 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 359550 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1313 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 22 hours, 22 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47141564727.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.94144 |
| 13:32 |
thestringpuller |
!t h b.mine |
| 13:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:B.MINE] 1D: 0.20500000 / 0.2054 / 0.20550000 (10 shares, 2.05399999 BTC), 7D: 0.20500000 / 0.2054 / 0.20550000 (10 shares, 2.05399999 BTC), 30D: 0.00005214 / 0.00030791 / 0.20550000 (368178 shares, 113.36474897 BTC) |
| 13:33 |
thestringpuller |
!t h b.sell |
| 13:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:B.SELL] 1D: 0.07000000 / 0.08499999 / 0.09999998 (2 shares, 0.16999998 BTC), 7D: 0.07000000 / 0.08499999 / 0.09999998 (2 shares, 0.16999998 BTC), 30D: 0.00000001 / 1.77E-6 / 0.09999998 (374724 shares, 0.66177717 BTC) |
| 13:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87150 @ 0.00034011 = 29.6406 BTC [+] |
| 13:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.20427544 = 1.0214 BTC [-] |
| 13:48 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: is there a non-derp version of this: http://www.wired.com/2014/12/hacker-lexicon-air-gap/ << i.e. an extension of the trilema air-gap article. |
| 13:49 |
thestringpuller |
the trilema article on practical airgapping is a good start, but a "read more" |
| 13:52 |
mike_c |
"But many companies insist that a network or system is sufficiently air-gapped even if it is only separated from other computers or networks by a software firewall." << uh, not that one. |
| 13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell williamdunne btw, were you going to put bitbet bets in scoopbot ? |
| 13:53 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform well obviously. but the problem for hypocrites is : i may at may lesure discuss their affairs in either the nominal terms they put forth or the actual realty involved, and randomly equate one branch with another at any point i feel like. |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
the untenability of their position is aka the liar's curse. |
| 13:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00034011 = 16.0872 BTC [+] |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
!up nocturne |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes from ritholz site : "Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous. |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
Leave a Reply You must be logged in to post a comment." |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
irony crits for some k's. |
| 14:05 |
ben_vulpes |
he's funny from time to time |
| 14:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i seem to recall the same thing |
| 14:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145206 @ 0.00033498 = 48.6411 BTC [-] |
| 14:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00032998 = 11.2523 BTC [-] |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
"Assuming, as economists usually do in aggregate analysis, that capital enhances the productivity of labor, and labor enhances the productivity of capital, then the efficient reaction to less labor is to have less capital. Investment is the rate of change of the capital stock, so even small reductions in the capital stock may be achieved by large investment reductions for a short period of time. For this reason, invest |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ment is expected to decline by a much greater percentage than consumption in the short term, and by the same percentage in the long term. In this view, the investment decline is entirely a reaction to the labor market, and not a cause of the low rates of labor usage." |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
aka, some countries are just not worth bothering with. the country of africa, the country of north america chief on the list. |
| 14:18 |
chetty |
!up Smallish |
| 14:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57717 @ 0.00034215 = 19.7479 BTC [+] {4} |
| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
https://life.indiegogo.com/fundraisers/a-new-engine-for-my-boat << poor mr o reduced to this ? |
| 14:22 |
assbot |
A new engine for my boat | Indiegogo Life ... ( http://bit.ly/1FCfHPi ) |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
is that thing covered in ejaculate ? |
| 14:29 |
mod6 |
hahaha |
| 14:29 |
mod6 |
look how rusted the rocker arms are |
| 14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
in any case, 150 bucks, almost a full bitcoin. and he didn't even have to shove it up his ass. |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
!h |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
https://res.cloudinary.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_fill,h_660,w_660/v1433433357/cnxdchjhzr0omvb0ews1.jpg << somehow i thought he was younger. |
| 14:31 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Gd5366 ) |
| 14:35 |
BingoBoingo |
<pete_dushenski> ;;later tell cazalla "sum" of money, not "some" in your last article. << fixed |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
"[Personal experience: I have taken on a recent high school grad (friends son) as an intern in my web development business. He was an above-average student in a Harvard University intro CS class and also completed AP Computer Science in high school plus an additional programming class. His current productivity is about 1/100th of a $25/hour Ukrainian or Filipino contract programmer so any wage+benefit package above |
| |
↖ |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
25 cents per hour would be above the market-clearing price. Yet he can never reach the productivity of the foreign contractors unless he can get substantial work experience.]" |
| 14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
this matches my experience. the average english speaking "civilised world" young adult can pull on his own something between a dime and a quarter per hour's worth. |
| 14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
this doesn't actually cover the cost of maintaining the infrastructure he needs. |
| 14:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3083 @ 0.00033544 = 1.0342 BTC [-] |
| 14:45 |
ben_vulpes |
link, mircea_popescu ? |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
One of the biggest surprises in the book is the importance of federal mortgage loan forgiveness: This chapter shows how all of these outcomes, and more, may be a direct result of stark incentives created by the FDIC and HAMP programs (hereafter jointly referenced as FH) and their practice of targeting the ratio of housing expenses to borrower income. The FH programs offer modifications on the basis of borrower incom |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
e reported to the United States Internal Revenue Service. The first section of the chapter shows how the programs resemble government safety net programs, except that the marginal income tax rates from mortgage modification far exceed 100 percent in some instances. It turned out that a persons mortgage payments would be reduced by $1.31 for every $1 fall in income. In other words a lower-income American with a mo |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
rtgage would have more spending power by working fewer hours and/or quitting altogether. Mulligan also notes that as the program was unfavorable to lenders they had a huge incentive to promote borrower confusion and uncertainty about the disposition of their modification application. (i.e., the bureaucratic run-around might not have been accidental!) |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/06/01/book-review-the-redistribution-recession/ |
| 14:46 |
assbot |
Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Book Review: The Redistribution Recession ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gd6Hom ) |
| 14:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 119002 @ 0.00032438 = 38.6019 BTC [-] {3} |
| 14:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16815 @ 0.00032337 = 5.4375 BTC [-] |
| 14:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54000 @ 0.00033643 = 18.1672 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44638 @ 0.00034425 = 15.3666 BTC [+] |
| 15:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84121 @ 0.00035438 = 29.8108 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 15:27 |
BingoBoingo |
http://cointelegraph.com/news/114481/chinese-exchanges-reject-gavin-andresens-20-mb-block-size-increase |
| 15:27 |
assbot |
Chinese Exchanges Reject Gavin Andresen’s 20 MB Block Size Increase ... ( http://bit.ly/1HQDIDC ) |
| 15:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45447 @ 0.00035438 = 16.1055 BTC [+] |
| 15:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54553 @ 0.000355 = 19.3663 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:33 |
thestringpuller |
BingoBoingo: the commentary on reddit is bottom of the barrel. |
| 15:33 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, but too be expected |
| 15:38 |
thestringpuller |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38os22/chinese_exchanges_reject_gavin_andresens_20_mb/crwqk0r << the only good comment in that thread of poo |
| 15:42 |
davout |
thestringpuller: good one indeed |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 15:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95365 @ 0.00035686 = 34.032 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83200 @ 0.00034933 = 29.0643 BTC [-] |
| 16:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3083 @ 0.00034933 = 1.077 BTC [-] |
| 16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
awww the butthurt. |
| 16:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65311 @ 0.00035695 = 23.3128 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Commentators.shtml << dude i'm so fucking sick of this inept egalitatianism. |
| 16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
the point isn't that smart people are somehow misguidedly imagining that everyone's smart like them. |
| 16:30 |
mircea_popescu |
the point is that people who aren't like them have no fucking business here. |
| 16:33 |
chetty |
and I thought wasmostly dumb people imaging everyone else was too |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
that's common enough. |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
but specifically dregs like |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
"I often see victims of Commentators Disease arguing against the minimum wage on abstract grounds of economic theory. It is what commentators dobandy abstractions, railing for or against Keynes, assaulting their ideological opponents with pointed phrases. They have never had to do the arithmetic of forty times the minimum wage minus taxes minus bus fare minus rent and gotta pay the cable because it is the only th |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ing they have after work. They have never had to choose between the electric bill and a new coat as winter comes on." |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
dude... who the fuck said x SHOULDNT have to choose between electricity and a coat. |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
this is what fucking economy is. choice. |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
and yes, people don't get all they want, and the stupid don't get "basics" whereas the smart don't get "unimportant stuff". |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
this has more to do with the fact that ipso definitio the preoccupations of the stupid will be banal. they don't have what with to miss things above a coat. |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
if we're in weepathon mode, how about for every coat some poor kid borne by stupid parents never got, |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
we count the fifty billion complex mechanical dragonflies rich kids borne by smart parents never got. |
| 16:37 |
jurov |
http://www.explo.yt/eulora/Eulora-June12015-win32.7z anyone wanna try it? i should have borrowed alf's ascii art, tho :D |
| 16:37 |
chetty |
well simple fact is raising the min wage isnt going to get that coat anyway, so its a silly argument |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i have to choose between fixing X software and Y policy. because the idiots that came before me have made NOT ONE RIGHT THING. |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
not one. |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing's correctly made. |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov has to choose between taking 3 gb out of the 4gb binary or fixing email. |
| 16:37 |
jurov |
sha256sum: 4a62082679875681654a7f4fd5844f5f33bff7a6cbc3ca0c8cefe4a85a8a066f Eulora-June12015-win32.7z |
| 16:37 |
jurov |
500M in the end |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking hell, poor idiots and their coats, i hope they never see a coat again and live in antarctica for the rest of their dais. |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty sure, but whatr insults me here is the pretense that somehow the feelings of the bovine are more important inasmuch as they;re mostly absent. |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck that. |
| 16:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66700 @ 0.000358 = 23.8786 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:39 |
jurov |
whet email is broken? |
| 16:39 |
jurov |
*what |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
all email is broken. |
| 16:40 |
jurov |
everyday snafu |
| 16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov 500mb is not too bad considering the sourceball is like 160mb |
| 16:41 |
jurov |
fortunately almost all crud was in src/ out/ and mk/ dirs |
| 16:44 |
jurov |
now, if someone can lend me osx machine... |
| 16:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 213700 @ 0.00035813 = 76.5324 BTC [+] {3} |
| 16:46 |
chetty |
jurov is the magic man, well doneand thank you |
| 16:46 |
jurov |
i'm still waiting for independent confirmation |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov plox make a post on exployt so i can reference it in the future etc ? |
| 16:47 |
jurov |
about the release? |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
if you need bw support i can host the file on eulora server |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
yes |
| 16:47 |
jurov |
yes, if it works, pls host it there |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
one sec |
| 16:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112600 @ 0.00035881 = 40.402 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:56 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: do we just post here for a login? |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
basically. |
| 17:02 |
thestringpuller |
what do you need to make one? |
| 17:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93100 @ 0.00035944 = 33.4639 BTC [+] {3} |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
i need you to stop trying to go around things as if you're going to maintain some sort of control over the process or something. what all the periphrase and metaconsiderations ? you've seen a dozen people get one through saying the magic words "gimme one" or somesuch. |
| 17:06 |
scoopbot_revived |
Bandits Stick Up Craigslist Bitcoin Seller http://qntra.net/2015/06/bandits-stick-up-craigslist-bitcoin-seller/ |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
do the same, not likely ot kill ya. |
| 17:12 |
mike_c |
jurov: is that a debug build? |
| 17:12 |
jurov |
yes |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
why ? |
| 17:13 |
mike_c |
wouldn't run because missing msvcp100d.dll, the debug version of that library. |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov wouldn't it make sense to just strip the symbols and etc for a release ? |
| 17:13 |
scoopbot_revived |
Eulora for Windows http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows |
| 17:14 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: lets go with "Damien Wayne" |
| 17:14 |
jurov |
^ mircea_popescu your url. |
| 17:14 |
jurov |
but ofc it will need to be updated |
| 17:15 |
mike_c |
won't it likely also run quite slowly? is it tough to get release building? |
| 17:15 |
jurov |
it ran fine here |
| 17:15 |
mike_c |
you have the debug VC redistributable file :) |
| 17:16 |
jurov |
no i mean the speed |
| 17:17 |
mike_c |
ah |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller http://dpaste.com/19CPJP7 |
| 17:17 |
assbot |
dpaste: 19CPJP7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ha7EP2 ) |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
(you pick your own name in game) |
| 17:17 |
thestringpuller |
ah |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov danke |
| 17:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84200 @ 0.00036001 = 30.3128 BTC [+] |
| 17:20 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, stuff that'll get cazalla sent to prison : http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbf37krn4p1qkw0kjo1_1280.jpg |
| 17:20 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Ha8b3w ) |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bingoboingo "The dangers of trapping has" |
| 17:21 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 17:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.20427544 = 2.4513 BTC [-] |
| 17:29 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, i think it's only illegal if she was urinating on another |
| 17:29 |
shinohai |
http://bit.ly/1Ha8b3w <<< the fount or reddit's knowledge |
| 17:29 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Ha9YWp ) |
| 17:30 |
shinohai |
*of |
| 17:38 |
mike_c |
I feel so close yet so far :) jurov: do you think you can crank out a release version or should I hunt down a debug version of the VC libraries? |
| 17:39 |
jurov |
mike_c i don't know, try with the debug version |
| 17:40 |
kuzetsa |
this new !verify thing was unexpected, but not too hard to figure out |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla oh i c |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
kuzetsa you here for the eulora ? :D |
| 17:42 |
cazalla |
speaking of eulora, binaries avail yet? |
| 17:42 |
trinque |
what's australia now, alabama of the sea? |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
yes jurov just made a windows thing |
| 17:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 224450 @ 0.00034931 = 78.4026 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:42 |
cazalla |
in logs? (still catching up) |
| 17:42 |
jurov |
..that doesn't work outside msvc10 yet |
| 17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla apparently it doesn't work 100% yet but hey, won't be long nao |
| 17:44 |
kuzetsa |
no, I play everquest, minecraft, kerbal space program, and various game APKs on my android device but nothing about eulora looks interesting to me :( |
| 17:44 |
kuzetsa |
not my cup of tea |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
aok |
| 17:47 |
cazalla |
kuzetsa, p99? |
| 17:48 |
kuzetsa |
no, proper everquest (even though it's now run by daybreak games ever since the sony online entertainment studio had all the rights sold) |
| 17:48 |
cazalla |
yeah, i heard about that, my bet is eqn gets shitcanned too |
| 17:49 |
cazalla |
best mmorpg evar, but i can't imagine playing eq post velious tbh |
| 17:50 |
kuzetsa |
loosing out on whatever EQN supposedly brought with it isn't anything I'll miss (hell, I was never invested into such things enough to even know what it is) |
| 17:50 |
kuzetsa |
I'm pretty sure AAs were pre-velious |
| 17:50 |
kuzetsa |
I've got a non-zero amount of AAs on my main |
| 17:50 |
cazalla |
AAs came with PoP |
| 17:51 |
cazalla |
actually might've been luclin |
| 17:51 |
kuzetsa |
I've gotta admit, I never paid attention to the timeline enough to know if planes of power / luclin / velious / etc. etc. etc. came before or after <other expansion> |
| 17:52 |
cazalla |
kunark, velious, luclin, planes of power, frog xpac which was the first dlc (when i quit) |
| 17:52 |
kuzetsa |
nod |
| 17:52 |
cazalla |
i spent 16 hours a day playing that shit for years so.. |
| 17:53 |
kuzetsa |
I did that on starwars galaxies |
| 17:53 |
cazalla |
never played it but i have read that it was great prior to some big patch |
| 17:54 |
kuzetsa |
I started with everquest, but once that came out SWG became my main MMO for 7 years but then they shut it down a while ago so I dunno |
| 17:54 |
kuzetsa |
I miss it, and that "old republic" MMO is rubbish and almost none of my friends from SWG liked it and neither did I lol |
| 17:56 |
cazalla |
i still have my old eq boxes with the keith parkinson artwork, wouldn't mind getting some of his long ago signed pieces http://www.keithparkinson.com/images/sov.jpg but can't really spring for it at this point |
| 17:56 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HaeRyI ) |
| 17:56 |
cazalla |
for the money spent on it, swtor was utter shit |
| 17:56 |
kuzetsa |
lol yeah |
| 17:56 |
kuzetsa |
too much work on game engine design and not enough development into the worldbuidling, gameplay, and storyline |
| 17:57 |
kuzetsa |
it's nothing like SWG |
| 17:57 |
cazalla |
his diablo 2 art is nice too http://www.keithparkinson.com/images/diablo2.png |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HafacH ) |
| 17:58 |
cazalla |
kuzetsa, i didn't even reach the level cap in swtor, it was basically an inferior WoW with voice overs |
| 17:58 |
kuzetsa |
heh |
| 17:59 |
jurov |
mike_c there? looks like i have nondebug build |
| 18:04 |
danielpbarron |
!up referredbyloper_ |
| 18:05 |
jurov |
mike_c or anyone else who has downloaded the win32 package: unpack this in C:\Eulora\June2015\Eulora |
| 18:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50687 @ 0.00034781 = 17.6294 BTC [-] {2} |
| 18:06 |
jurov |
http://www.explo.yt/eulora/Eulora-June12015-win32nondebug.7z |
| 18:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HagKeR ) |
| 18:07 |
jurov |
(only binaries, 11MB) |
| 18:07 |
trinque |
jurov: prolly good to post a hash of teh thing |
| 18:08 |
jurov |
sha256sum 7f02d5a9e0d42422a82b28e1a08ee3765798e75e604082fddac9164def6c4f7a Eulora-June12015-win32nondebug.7z |
| 18:08 |
jurov |
thx trinque |
| 18:09 |
trinque |
sweet |
| 18:17 |
williamdunne |
mircea_popescu: Yes, and possibly the curated porn list. I've been busy this week on a rescue mission |
| 18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
kitens ? |
| 18:18 |
williamdunne |
Gay disabled blind orphan paraplegic puppies |
| 18:19 |
trinque |
reminds me of some old flash game from the 90s that involved an amputee dog |
| 18:21 |
williamdunne |
>flash |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: newz! |
| 18:22 |
asciilifeform |
1) phuctor now has 'download this key' link |
| 18:22 |
trinque |
williamdunne: 90s were all about flash mang |
| 18:22 |
williamdunne |
While its not 90s, for me it was always Runescape |
| 18:22 |
asciilifeform |
2) http://nosuchlabs.com/rss but not sure if this can be used in battlefield, because - guess what - werker never marked dates of phuctoring, and hence db schema never had a place for this. ergo the only dates we have are of -date submitted- |
| 18:22 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1HakgFZ ) |
| 18:22 |
williamdunne |
~2003 |
| 18:23 |
asciilifeform |
presently the rss link displays last 10 (in order added to db in first place, rather than order-of-phuctoring) |
| 18:23 |
asciilifeform |
the whole thing -will- have to be re-written... |
| 18:24 |
* |
asciilifeform fucking hates www programming and anything even remotely connected |
| 18:24 |
jurov |
asciilifeform wd! |
| 18:24 |
trinque |
even hunchentoot? |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
well not quite wd |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
see above |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: even hunchentoot. the www stack is fundamentally retarded |
| 18:24 |
trinque |
can't argue with that |
| 18:24 |
jurov |
like my windows binaries. *shrug* |
| 18:25 |
jurov |
is anyone trying them? if not' i'm supposed to wake up tmrw |
| 18:25 |
jurov |
and sleep before that |
| 18:26 |
trinque |
jurov: I have no windoze box to test with, but will be derping with gentoo 64 tomorrow |
| 18:27 |
williamdunne |
I'll have a shot with Windoze tomorrow |
| 18:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80650 @ 0.00035661 = 28.7606 BTC [+] |
| 18:30 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, please to provide me with a login/pass for eulora |
| 18:30 |
cazalla |
jurov, i'll give your windows binaries a whirl in a moment |
| 18:31 |
cazalla |
crystalspace3d.org is slow as fuck to get cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe from btw |
| 18:31 |
shinohai |
ty asciilifeform for the rss feed, as now I can search easily from my irc client :D |
| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: it may or may not be usable, please read disclaimer |
| 18:32 |
asciilifeform |
the reason i cannot say for certain, is that i have very little idea of what a typical rss -reader- does with the timestamp |
| 18:32 |
asciilifeform |
and can't presently be arsed to research it |
| 18:32 |
kakobrekla |
hence rss suicide joke. |
| 18:32 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: ? |
| 18:33 |
kakobrekla |
i thought it was in the bash somewhere |
| 18:33 |
funkenstein_ |
greets - I'm curious what all y'all have to say about moxie's review of gpg |
| 18:34 |
funkenstein_ |
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/gpg-and-me/ |
| 18:34 |
assbot |
Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> GPG And Me ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hambua ) |
| 18:34 |
kakobrekla |
anyway, the idea was that Aaron Swartz made suicide precisely because of RSS |
| 18:34 |
asciilifeform |
!s marlinspike |
| 18:34 |
assbot |
12 results for 'marlinspike' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=marlinspike |
| 18:34 |
asciilifeform |
funkenstein_ ^ |
| 18:34 |
funkenstein_ |
ah thanks... *runs to catch up* |
| 18:35 |
asciilifeform |
funkenstein_: short version - mr m is a usg shill |
| 18:35 |
funkenstein_ |
:o |
| 18:35 |
trinque |
til he picked that name on purpose |
| 18:36 |
kakobrekla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-01-2015#975028 yeah. |
| 18:36 |
assbot |
Logged on 12-01-2015 23:56:21; kakobrekla: whoever responsible for rss should commit suicide. |
| 18:36 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: it's a navalism, like 'mark twain' |
| 18:36 |
funkenstein_ |
maybe he saw the future of reddit |
| 18:36 |
trinque |
asciilifeform: yep, sounded like hippie parents to me |
| 18:36 |
shinohai |
lol |
| 18:36 |
asciilifeform |
and naggum then perhaps performed seppuku to atone for xml |
| 18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
motherfucker NOTHING WORKS |
| 18:37 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
open source is an open invitation to waste your life debugging stupid shti |
| 18:38 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
19:42:04Error:Connection timed out. |
| 18:38 |
asciilifeform |
mine? |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
is pureftpd up and listening oin port ? yes. |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
is port open in firewall ? yes. |
| 18:38 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: passive mode ? |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
and what am i to do, go rebuild apache or install alsa or what the fucking shit already |
| 18:39 |
asciilifeform |
ftp by default on many systems expects an idiot back-connect |
| 18:39 |
asciilifeform |
on random (yes) port |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
forcing passive doesn't do anything |
| 18:41 |
asciilifeform |
would have to sniff packets on both sides and see where, if anywhere, they went. alternatively, set fire to it |
| 18:42 |
trinque |
dwarf fortress tends to come to mind there |
| 18:42 |
trinque |
you could learn how to play, and it might end up being fun, but wtf bother |
| 18:42 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, because that's what i'm going to do with my time, sniff motherfucking packlets. |
| 18:42 |
jurov |
cazalla, i got it fine quickly from cs |
| 18:42 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: see also earlier (20 min or so) thread re: rss |
| 18:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 160449 @ 0.00036022 = 57.7969 BTC [+] {3} |
| 18:43 |
jurov |
also, added its sum to http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows . looks like they don't publish the checksums at all |
| 18:43 |
assbot |
Eulora for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1RQUOIQ ) |
| 18:44 |
jurov |
^ temporary instructions there, |
| 18:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8545 @ 0.00035939 = 3.071 BTC [-] |
| 18:45 |
asciilifeform |
in other nyooz, |
| 18:45 |
asciilifeform |
http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B9EAEC825308C0EFCC787F82E9B5F2EEA4775641C49274D12A1EB2B6520F7FD1 |
| 18:45 |
assbot |
Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1RQV62f ) |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
^ non-'magic' |
| 18:47 |
asciilifeform |
factors 3, 7, 11, 23 |
| 18:48 |
cazalla |
jurov, any idea what this is on the cs-winlibs install? can't find C:\Program Files (x86)\MSYS\msys\1.0\etc\profile when installing MSYS integration settings |
| 18:48 |
asciilifeform |
https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=line%40home.com&op=index << and, as always, somebody 'helpfully' uploaded it 'on top of' this fella's genuine key |
| 18:48 |
assbot |
Search results for 'line home com' ... ( http://bit.ly/1HaoEVx ) |
| 18:49 |
jurov |
you don't have msys, nor vs, that can be safely cancelled |
| 18:49 |
jurov |
cazalla ^ |
| 18:51 |
cazalla |
hmm no go, missing MSVCP100D.dll |
| 18:51 |
jurov |
damn |
| 18:53 |
asciilifeform |
hm, 'line home com' has -two identical- keys, uploaded on same date, bitwise same |
| 18:53 |
jurov |
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5555 cazalla you can try this |
| 18:53 |
assbot |
Download Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86) from Official Microsoft Download Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1RQWdPF ) |
| 18:53 |
asciilifeform |
so no sample of undiddled modulus for this key is known. |
| 18:53 |
cazalla |
jurov, just did, same error |
| 18:54 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: this is the second or perhaps third instance thus far that i have found so far of someone who -will- be spoken to using phucked key if anyone ever bothers to speak to him |
| 18:55 |
asciilifeform |
aaand we are now at precisely 40 phucked moduli. |
| 18:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform line@home ? |
| 18:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00035398 = 5.6106 BTC [-] |
| 18:56 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla coming up |
| 18:59 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla http://dpaste.com/3A2ZYVP |
| 18:59 |
assbot |
dpaste: 3A2ZYVP ... ( http://bit.ly/1Haqe9I ) |
| 19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
<cazalla> crystalspace3d.org is slow as fuck to get cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe from btw << link ? jurov can then mirror it along with everything else. |
| 19:01 |
cazalla |
jurov problem with what i'm doing or the client? not sure what else i can do here now |
| 19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
for the record, my ftp problem was that someone had the bright idea of allowing port 21, but not port 20. |
| 19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
needless to say... |
| 19:07 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: earlier link to freshly phucked key |
| 19:10 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: can the rss thing be made to work as expected in the form of a #b-a bot ? or too b0rk3d |
| 19:12 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: you mean bot reading rss feed? we have that. |
| 19:14 |
williamdunne |
Scoopbot can read any RSS or atom feed |
| 19:14 |
kakobrekla |
as far as i can tell dates are incorrect but the order is correct in your feed ? thats workable. perhaps scoop can cover it. i can too. |
| 19:14 |
asciilifeform |
williamdunne: the dates are entirely unusable. see thread |
| 19:15 |
asciilifeform |
i recall that mircea_popescu asked for a real-time phuctor ticker. |
| 19:15 |
asciilifeform |
hence why i attempted it |
| 19:16 |
kakobrekla |
williamdunne be my guest! |
| 19:23 |
williamdunne |
asciilifeform: Dates aren't involved in Scoop's processes |
| 19:23 |
williamdunne |
Thoroughly ignored by him. |
| 19:24 |
williamdunne |
Uses a persisted Map of URLs to objects. Messages when he sees a new one |
| 19:24 |
asciilifeform |
what determines 'new' ? |
| 19:24 |
williamdunne |
Whether or not the URL is in the map |
| 19:24 |
asciilifeform |
and stores forever ? |
| 19:24 |
williamdunne |
Persisted, yes |
| 19:25 |
asciilifeform |
thing is, it is actually possible for the same phuctor url to be new twice. |
| 19:25 |
asciilifeform |
rss provided no sane way to handle this. |
| 19:25 |
williamdunne |
In this case I may have to make a custom set of rules for Phuctor |
| 19:25 |
williamdunne |
This is not a problem, so long as something changes between first seen and the update |
| 19:25 |
williamdunne |
(title, ideally) |
| 19:26 |
asciilifeform |
it is entirely possible for same key to be 'new' twice in succession. |
| 19:27 |
williamdunne |
Within how long of each other? |
| 19:27 |
asciilifeform |
immediately. |
| 19:27 |
williamdunne |
Well then why does this matter? Scoop shares it once and you see both |
| 19:28 |
asciilifeform |
it doesn't matter. just pointing out that the thing follows literally none of the prescribed assumptions |
| 19:28 |
asciilifeform |
wouldn't want scoopbot to choke on it |
| 19:28 |
williamdunne |
Fair enough, think he'll do fine. Fits in quite well with his existing logic |
| 19:30 |
shinohai |
https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38mhrh/call_me_inconsiderate_but_this_is_why_i_dont_take/crw6atd |
| 19:30 |
assbot |
luke-jr comments on Call me inconsiderate, but THIS is why I don't take Luke-Jr seriously: He lost the majority of his coins on Mt. Gox when there were signs FOR MONTHS to NOT keep coins there. He lacks the ability to properly gauge situations and look into the future. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jxr94n ) |
| 19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> thing is, it is actually possible for the same phuctor url to be new twice. << it'll be fine im sure. |
| 19:32 |
asciilifeform |
was just pointing out the braindamage of the whole concept of rss |
| 19:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78850 @ 0.00035104 = 27.6795 BTC [-] |
| 19:33 |
asciilifeform |
(and this is entirely aside from the idiocy of how servers get polled continuously, etc) |
| 19:33 |
williamdunne |
>just using it for safekeeping |
| 19:33 |
williamdunne |
Yes |
| 19:33 |
williamdunne |
RSS is silly |
| 19:33 |
williamdunne |
With Scoop I worked out a structure that fixes some of the issues |
| 19:33 |
williamdunne |
i.e Dates |
| 19:34 |
williamdunne |
Re: polling, what would you suggest as the alternative? Websockets? |
| 19:34 |
asciilifeform |
williamdunne: no |
| 19:34 |
asciilifeform |
williamdunne: a proper internet |
| 19:35 |
asciilifeform |
as in, we take everything post-1990 or so and shoot it. then start over. |
| 19:35 |
williamdunne |
I'll get working on it on Monday |
| 19:35 |
williamdunne |
;) |
| 19:35 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 19:38 |
williamdunne |
Anyhow, what in particular is wrong with it? While there is a host of derpy technologies I'm quite fond of some things - like WebSockets |
| 19:38 |
asciilifeform |
williamdunne: fundamentally - the idiot polling |
| 19:38 |
asciilifeform |
all else follows from this. |
| 19:39 |
williamdunne |
Isn't that the point of WebSockets, getting rid of derpy polling? |
| 19:39 |
williamdunne |
No moar ajax polling |
| 19:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34271 @ 0.00034316 = 11.7604 BTC [-] {2} |
| 19:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51129 @ 0.00034012 = 17.39 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 20:11 |
williamdunne |
How does one go about securing a Eurola account? |
| 20:13 |
cazalla |
and a long and drawn out process |
| 20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
secureing from what ? |
| 20:13 |
williamdunne |
Acquiring, in other words |
| 20:13 |
williamdunne |
Registering |
| 20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ah, ima get you one, a sec. |
| 20:14 |
cazalla |
williamdunne cut the foreplay and just ask |
| 20:15 |
williamdunne |
cazalla: foreplay is half the fun |
| 20:15 |
williamdunne |
mircea_popescu: Thanks MP |
| 20:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124000 @ 0.00033561 = 41.6156 BTC [-] |
| 20:16 |
mircea_popescu |
williamdunne http://dpaste.com/23J9SCM |
| 20:16 |
assbot |
dpaste: 23J9SCM ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jt8qZb ) |
| 20:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63650 @ 0.00033561 = 21.3616 BTC [-] |
| 20:20 |
williamdunne |
mircea_popescu: Correct |
| 20:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28350 @ 0.00034392 = 9.7501 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:21 |
williamdunne |
mircea_popescu: Oh wait I take it back, thats me derping. Message comes up blank |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 20:40 |
* |
asciilifeform just woke up to the fact that he was a fool when originally wrote phuctor. a phuctored modulus must fragment into factors, each of which is in turn subject to all future attempts at phuctoring |
| 20:40 |
asciilifeform |
(if composite per rabin-miller) |
| 20:41 |
* |
williamdunne whoosh |
| 20:41 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu ^^^^^^ |
| |
↖ |
| 20:41 |
asciilifeform |
as it is, the gigantic turds yielded by the current gcd finds will not break apart |
| 20:43 |
asciilifeform |
the mechanics of a correct phuctor are, roughly: thing keeps track of keys, rsa moduli within, as existing phuctor does; but instead of flagging 'phuctored' moduli, we keep table of known factors (associated with respective unknowns, which, in turn, may be yet-unphuctored moduli -or- fragments previously created by successful phuctorings) |
| 20:44 |
asciilifeform |
likewise, each unknown is stamped with a date of last gcd-ing, as well as sha512 of the mass product at the time this was done. |
| 20:45 |
* |
asciilifeform wanders off to contemplate this |
| 20:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161000 @ 0.00035452 = 57.0777 BTC [+] {4} |
| 20:53 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah that sounds like a good idea |
| 20:53 |
decimation |
it would be nice to click on '3' and call up all the moduli which are factored by '3' |
| 20:54 |
decimation |
williamdunne: websockets are 'tardation on top of tardation |
| 20:57 |
williamdunne |
What is particularly tarded about WS? |
| 20:57 |
* |
williamdunne still doesn't get it |
| 20:58 |
decimation |
the shortcomings of turning a fundamentally broadcast technology into a 'virtual channel' |
| 20:58 |
decimation |
inside of which you place another virtual channel |
| 20:59 |
williamdunne |
While with that description it does sound a bit tarded, in practise I've found them to work very well |
| 20:59 |
decimation |
sure, so do 1950's era pickups in cuba |
| 21:00 |
trinque |
williamdunne: on the one hand there's a superficial "did I make it do something, and did it 'work'" |
| |
↖ |
| 21:00 |
trinque |
and on the other there's considering the entire stack that got you to that point, and whether that made any sense |
| 21:00 |
trinque |
first off the thing's not a socket; iirc it throws you wads o' data piecemeal |
| 21:00 |
trinque |
you can't stream arbitrary binary data over it |
| 21:00 |
trinque |
(maybe I'm wrong? don't think so) |
| 21:01 |
danielpbarron |
!up DanyAlos |
| 21:02 |
trinque |
I mean to be specific it's a wrapper around a socket with certain assumptions on how it'll be used; it doesn't just give you a raw unix socket and say "go at it" |
| 21:04 |
trinque |
apparently in some newer version of the standard it has a binary streaming thing |
| 21:04 |
williamdunne |
Would there be any particular benefit to that in its intended usage? JSON/MsgPack/whatever all work fine with anything I can imagine being necessary on the web |
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| 21:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00033557 = 22.0134 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:05 |
trinque |
williamdunne: what do you want to do with it? |
| 21:06 |
williamdunne |
Streaming basic pricing data, and submitting/receiving bets are the two I have used it for |
| 21:06 |
trinque |
oh, you wanted bitbet to provide a websocket? |
| 21:06 |
williamdunne |
Fairly simplistic stuff |
| 21:06 |
williamdunne |
Nope |
| 21:06 |
williamdunne |
Unrelated |
| 21:06 |
trinque |
ah k |
| 21:06 |
trinque |
so adding a bunch of persistent connections is going to increase overhead |
| 21:06 |
williamdunne |
But if there were best happening more than every second, sure that'd be a great feature to see |
| 21:07 |
williamdunne |
Overhead vs the AJAX method? I'd bet otherwise |
| 21:07 |
trinque |
no need to bet. |
| 21:07 |
trinque |
it depends on what users are doing |
| 21:07 |
williamdunne |
Aha |
| 21:08 |
trinque |
on the one hand, anyone with the site open in a tab is going to be a connection your server will have open |
| 21:08 |
trinque |
on the ajax side, you may have tons of unnecessary polling |
| 21:08 |
trinque |
so you would have to actually try both and see based on your own situation which is more expensive |
| 21:08 |
trinque |
I think nginx does pretty well handling a bunch of idle websocket connections |
| 21:09 |
trinque |
and can hand them off to some backend nicely |
| 21:09 |
williamdunne |
Very true, but anything where the data is somewhat frequent I reckon would be better off in WS |
| 21:09 |
williamdunne |
Yes, I was using Phoenix which handles it very well |
| 21:09 |
trinque |
there are other things to consider |
| 21:09 |
trinque |
browsers can pipeline requests through the same connection |
| 21:09 |
trinque |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_pipelining |
| 21:09 |
assbot |
HTTP pipelining - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1eU5Kap ) |
| 21:10 |
trinque |
so the ajax vs ws thing may be more similar than it appears |
| 21:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144984 @ 0.00035944 = 52.113 BTC [+] {4} |
| 21:13 |
trinque |
"keep-alive" is the thing to look into there |
| 21:16 |
williamdunne |
Yeah, server send events or summin |
| 21:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52650 @ 0.00036084 = 18.9982 BTC [+] |
| 21:20 |
trinque |
williamdunne: I don't even mean that, just that polling might not look much different load-wise from the WS doing its thing |
| 21:20 |
trinque |
that said I've used websockets; the whole browser's shit, subset of which WS are shit |
| 21:20 |
trinque |
lol |
| 21:24 |
trinque |
williamdunne: and to elaborate on the reason why, the browser was a nightmarish wad of complexity before WS |
| 21:24 |
trinque |
WS just bolt another huge attack surface to the thing |
| 21:24 |
trinque |
it would not blow my mind if there are session hijacking hax to be found within, so on |
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~ 37 minutes ~ |
| 22:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82850 @ 0.00035133 = 29.1077 BTC [-] |
| 22:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66200 @ 0.00035164 = 23.2786 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:15 |
cazalla |
!up referredbyloper |
| 22:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00036149 = 5.7296 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39446 @ 0.00035062 = 13.8306 BTC [-] |
| 22:25 |
trinque |
!s referredbyloper |
| 22:25 |
assbot |
25 results for 'referredbyloper' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=referredbyloper |
| 22:26 |
trinque |
cazalla: pretty sure that's a bot which only spams one link |
| 22:27 |
cazalla |
ah ok, i assumed it might be someone coming here from asciilifeform's site in the same manner qntra directs people here |
| 22:27 |
trinque |
yep guy's clearly trying to make it look so |
| 22:29 |
referredbyloper |
hey no, i'm not spam bot :D |
| 22:29 |
referredbyloper |
just don't want to go through reg and things |
| 22:30 |
referredbyloper |
trading most of the day, an find this channel realy amusing |
| 22:31 |
trinque |
referredbyloper: well good; you weren't showing any signs of life! |
| 22:31 |
trinque |
and how long does it take to register anywya |
| 22:32 |
cazalla |
referredbyloper, you think i'm funny, i amuse you? |
| 22:32 |
referredbyloper |
yes, drunken bitching about bad marriage and things |
| 22:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00034811 = 10.4781 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:33 |
trinque |
brutal |
| 22:33 |
trinque |
referredbyloper: register so he can negrate you |
| 22:33 |
cazalla |
lol harsh |
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| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
in other news, http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/641F87E0A992064EB7CD91BC6CC7203AD8D83FFABA7C6724A698A23F61C0C1E8 |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
(williamdunne? was there a scoopbot thing under testing?) |
| 22:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 133900 @ 0.00034989 = 46.8503 BTC [+] {4} |
| 23:09 |
cazalla |
https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/bitcoin-leaders-speak-up-block-size |
| 23:09 |
assbot |
7 Bitcoin Leaders Speak Up On Bitcoin Block Size Debate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqXSd6 ) |
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| 23:10 |
cazalla |
who's that at #4 heh |
| 23:10 |
* |
asciilifeform astonished |
| 23:24 |
punkman |
good ol' justus |
| 23:24 |
punkman |
"Justus Ranvier has one of the more interesting opinions on the bitcoin blockchain that doesn’t seem to get much attention. In his view, there is no need for the block size limit to exist at all." |
| 23:25 |
punkman |
http://monetas.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/03.jpg |
| 23:25 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1MuCEJV ) |
| 23:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80900 @ 0.00034374 = 27.8086 BTC [-] {2} |
| 23:36 |
punkman |
!up The20YearIRCloud |
| 23:36 |
punkman |
!up WolfGoethe |
| 23:36 |
The20YearIRCloud |
howdy punkman |
| 23:36 |
WolfGoethe |
yo |
| 23:36 |
The20YearIRCloud |
hi |
| 23:36 |
WolfGoethe |
some fool locking up my coins with bogus trades. what fool wants to deposit cash to the bank... at midnight??? |
| 23:37 |
punkman |
lolwut |
| 23:37 |
The20YearIRCloud |
sounds like pure fun |
| 23:39 |
The20YearIRCloud |
So I miss anything interesting or fun with mpex in the past 2-3 months? |
| 23:39 |
punkman |
account opening fee is now 50btc |
| 23:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00036169 = 15.1729 BTC [+] |
| 23:50 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Interesting |
| 23:50 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Quite a bit more than the title 4 exchanges I've been talking to in the US |
| 23:52 |
decimation |
title 4 exchanges? |
| 23:58 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Yeah , crowdexchanges here in the US now that the SEC has finally got off their butt and allowed small companies to list on new exchanges. |
| 23:58 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Exchanges with less regulation an requirements (mostly) than even OTC |
| 23:59 |
The20YearIRCloud |
Granted, i guess if you wanted a $10k+ threshhold it'd make sense to up it to 50btc due to all the recent slides |