#trilema | 2015-05-26

decimation that sounbds a little like trilema if i do say so myself :D

00:06

heh maybe greenspun reads you

00:07

ben_vulpes> not depreciation? << this is a particularly cogent question. the us fudges EVERYTHING, including the actual expenditure on infrastructure through, counting depreciation, counting future "financial costs" etc etc etc. half the political machine in the us works on pork contracts, which are all "infrastructure". that famous bridge in alaska was not even 1% of 1%.

00:08

a butthole-issued "20 to 25% gdp" is a much more reliable statistic than whatever the miniprop publishes. and it's definitely under germany. one needs but take a walk around detroit and frankfurt to see.

00:08

yeah the best comment on greenspun's article: "This is a subject and comparison that has been written about at length. German roads last longer because they are built substantially better than most U.S. roads. The German system of road construction relies on large long-term contracts with national companies that must build and maintain the roadway and are responsible for repairing any design and engineering defects. There is a powerfu

00:09

the us political system 'selects for' low-bid crony incompetents while strangling anyone with a clue

00:12

!up Michail1

00:14

decimation it's a mystery tho. france could also have good infrastructure. itdoes not. i doubt it's the "political" anything, they're about as equally retarded.

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00:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49900 @ 0.00028907 = 14.4246 BTC [-]

00:36

at least in the american case I think there's a tacit understanding that at least one color of the two is there to loot the federal government, certainly not to do anything constructive

00:36

the fact that the "red states" tend to take more federal money lines up with that

00:36

and of course the second of the two colors are also there to loot, but they dress it up as something constructive

00:37

any idiot off the street will tell you that this "pork" is how it is, has been, will be

00:37

matter-of-fact-ly

00:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg

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00:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131750 @ 0.00028863 = 38.027 BTC [-] {2}

01:01

http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34143564/

01:02

"so I poisoned the DNS and rejected all outbound connection attempts on port 8333, to force all the wallets to connect to a single local full node, which had connectivity to a single remote node over the Internet. Thus, all the lightweight wallets at the festival had Bitcoin network connectivity, but we only needed to backhaul the Bitcoin network's transaction traffic once."

01:02

spv's bad, mk?

01:02

moreover, bitcoining on other peoples networks is bad, mk?

01:05

ben_vulpes: they're seriously thinking of using that avahi turd in their bitcoind?

01:06

or some reimplementation thereof?

01:07

dude bitcoin-development 2015 is turning into bitcointalk.org 2012

01:09

ah no nevermind

01:09

zeroconf looks to be "zero confirmation txn" in this usage

01:09

it also refers to the 169.254 autoconfig IPs and various other poetteringisms seen in avahi and bonjour

01:14

no no, someone thinks that's a grand idea

01:15

http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34143498/ << because a .conf file's too hard.

01:24

oh good

01:25

"web of things" is the new web 2.0

01:25

hordes of mouthbreathing visioneers incoming

01:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18813 @ 0.00028941 = 5.4447 BTC [+]

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01:50

"The net result was that all Bitcoin nodes (lightweight and heavyweight) on the local Wi-Fi network were unable to connect to any Bitcoin nodes except for the local node, which they discovered via DNS." << and this is an argument for dns in core *how*?

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02:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65881 @ 0.00028863 = 19.0152 BTC [-] {2}

02:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23979 @ 0.00028941 = 6.9398 BTC [+]

02:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60450 @ 0.00029213 = 17.6593 BTC [+] {3}

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03:23

Even educated fleas do it ! http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/26/even-educated-fleas-do-it/

03:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 162919 @ 0.00028758 = 46.8522 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00028736 = 1.0632 BTC [-]

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04:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75962 @ 0.00029563 = 22.4566 BTC [+] {4}

04:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18088 @ 0.00029943 = 5.4161 BTC [+]

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04:21

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63100 @ 0.00028736 = 18.1324 BTC [-]

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04:59

<trinque> matter-of-fact-ly << only a problem in places which insist on pretending like there is or should be a difference between money and politics.

05:00

great way to keep the idiot sons employed, sure. but ideally you don't wantthem employed in congress, if at all possible.

05:01

avahi wait wut

05:03

in other news, this is why the girl should be taller than you : http://31.media.tumblr.com/20c2f2e3dd873ef89624ae370538a6da/tumblr_mub7xj0noX1sjfxgho1_400.gif

05:04

best explanation ever.

05:15

http://8ch.net/btc/res/326.html lol

05:21

chetty

the guy spoke to SATOSHI so I'm pretty sure we should just trust what he says./// rolling eyes

05:26

meh, I spoke to Satoshi too

05:26

he makes an excellent Salmon California Roll

05:27

fucking cheese.

05:27

who puts cheese in fish i want to know.

05:28

trying to think of a cheese/fish combo but can't think of anything that might taste nice

05:29

some sorta cheese sauce on white fish mebe

05:29

smoked salmon works with a variety of harder cheeses, but i like my sushi rawq

05:32

i do love blue cheese sauce with some chilli on a schnitty

05:32

and i do make the best crumbed schnitty in australia

05:33

all jokes aside, I must agree

05:33

I eat sashimi over everything else

05:33

salmon and eel sashimi preferred

05:33

tuna and salmon

05:33

dunno about teh eel. i like it cooked.

05:33

chetty

ooo eel, havent has that in sooo long, now I am drooling

05:34

eel sashimi is cooked

05:34

otherwise afair it's poisonous

05:35

more fugu!

05:43

i suppose it depends on the eel

05:50

never had it, never even seen it for sale here at the fish markets

05:50

there are some local eels not far from here but all the run off from the gutters run into the lake so i'm not game to eat from it (some old fucks catch their eels there and eat em)

05:52

all fish lives off shit. that's what it is.

05:54

mind you i considered bagging a few ducks from the same lake

05:55

heh

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06:13

and in other news, http://i.imgur.com/x3aDjLs.gifv

06:16

i like turtles

06:20

The Producers http://trilema.com/2015/the-producers/

06:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VputHxyjL00

06:33

LD is like kryptonite to even the most hardened acolyte of /pol/

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06:51

hot patootie, bless my soul!

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07:30

copypaste, captchas? wtf

07:30

how am i meant to shit post?

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07:47

this slivivitz is quote nivcer but i think i rather the cherry i had last week

07:48

ya squat while ya drink it top kek lulz

07:48

http://i2.wp.com/weirdrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/gopnik.jpg

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08:15

copypaste, seriously the captcha is driving me insane

08:18

ah well wait till tonight, she got hers, now he'll get his

08:20

don't tell me to stfu and can it

08:20

janet

08:21

oh damnit

08:22

i married a woman more frigid than janet, damnit

08:22

eh you ever heard that "there's no such thing as frigid women, just unskilled men" ?

08:24

exception that proves the rule

08:24

ya heard that one?

08:25

hehe

08:26

so whadda ya do all day ?

08:26

me or her?

08:26

me.. read logs, look for news, look for work, stare out the window and think of what might be if i had not got her pregnant

08:27

her.. cry, whinge, complain because kid pulls her hair, her washing off the clothes horse, food out her hand/mouth

08:27

i mean god forbid, the poor woman is stuck reading books all day long

08:27

you two ever had a chat bout all this ?

08:27

fucked if i am going to sit with the kid 24/7

08:27

an' i dun mean a screaming match.

08:28

yeah many times but i lock the door and stay in the computer (craft) room

08:28

nah she doesn't scream or fight

08:28

just cries

08:28

maybe she has reason.. been around the world many times, me? never

08:28

so she knows what she is missing

08:28

me? not reary

08:29

yet believe it or not she wants another

08:29

and we tried last month and i thought of her friend the entire time.. half figured to tell her while banging her

08:30

but last thing i need is more tears

08:30

another what ?

08:30

bubs

08:30

2 of the mums at her mums group are already pregnant so i figure some jealousy or envy

08:31

mind you, all mid 30s dried up vag type women

08:31

when do you want women to have kids, at 16 ?

08:32

mine or anyones

08:32

tbh i don't even know, i got duped by this conservation /pol/ shit just as i thought i was due to drop dead

08:32

conservative even

08:32

best gf i had

08:32

love life wise

08:33

was the one where we argued, things got smashed, cheated on each other

08:33

was utter shit

08:33

*

mircea_popescu never cared much for that.

08:33

but at least it was a passion love/hate fuck fest

08:33

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144112 @ 0.00029655 = 42.7364 BTC [+] {2}

08:33

i didn't think i did either but my missus won't as much raise her voice without crying

08:33

it is like dealing with another toddler

08:34

at least my son has an excuse, he's 16 months old, her? what excuse?

08:34

what's she do for a living anyway ?

08:34

nothing now

08:34

prior to bubs.. marketing pr office shit

08:34

an' before ?

08:34

ah.

08:34

what else eh

08:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19438 @ 0.00029961 = 5.8238 BTC [+]

08:34

so teach her something.

08:34

what?

08:34

she has her own hobbies

08:34

anything you feel like.

08:34

just can't afford the time atm for her stuff

08:35

foirget that. just go, "woman, come over i wanna teach you to X"

08:35

yeah she just isn't like that

08:35

like i said.. exception that proves the rule

08:35

how you know ?

08:35

ya think they don't exist but they do

08:35

cause i've tried

08:35

so she cried ?

08:35

over anything and everything

08:35

cept instead of my abuse

08:36

kid beats on her now

08:36

;/

08:36

pulls her hair, she cries, he laughs

08:36

sounds like a shitty life.

08:36

well i tell her to go out with the other mums

08:36

but she acts as if she has 10 kids, not 1

08:36

but he is pretty full on

08:37

i can't deal with it without resorting to smashing things

08:37

so she is left to deal with it

08:37

sounds like a pretty serious problem brewing.

08:37

so what? ya belt a 16 month old?

08:37

they dont understand at that age

08:37

like i said before he's like a jew

08:38

he hits you and cries out in pain when you respond

08:38

cazalla: moar money than you?

08:38

davout, yup and by a huge fucking mile

08:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54720 @ 0.00029084 = 15.9148 BTC [-]

08:38

davout, i bitched about this before mind you.. her father provided everything.. and i mean EVERYTHING

08:38

woman doesn't know how to really do anything

08:38

i was referring to the jewish baby

08:38

oh

08:39

well by default yeah i guess so he wants for nothing

08:39

never enough for toddlers though

08:39

my earliest memory is getting a beating

08:39

i think jdif is toddler default

08:39

this kid? doubt it

08:39

some outgrow it

08:39

i went fucking mental the other week at her

08:40

she tells me.. (on account of her sister/mother) that he won't get into a good school on account he is not christianed

08:40

cause jewish ?

08:40

lol no

08:40

just stupid

08:41

not that i am super smart

08:41

davout did you manage to get that pogo going btw ?

08:41

but i am not christianed either

08:41

cazalla i think it's christened.

08:41

let him go to a montessori school if not privately tutored

08:41

maybe but i am drunk like a fish

08:41

what's wrong with public schools ?

08:42

it can be xistied for all i care

08:42

here? nothing when i was that age

08:42

now? full of riff raff

08:42

so ?

08:42

he'd prob get beat up by the nig nogs

08:42

well...

08:42

mircea_popescu: well yes, stuck at the part where i need to put an bitcoind arm binary on the thing

08:42

at least he gets used to it.

08:42

where as i fought and won many fights

08:42

yeah but i grew up fighting a grown man (my father)

08:42

so taking on 2-3 kids was nothing

08:42

an as far as i understand we need to have a static build first, which we don't

08:42

dont really have the heart to give him a flogging like my father did me

08:43

my father would flog me with a jug cord when i was lucky

08:43

davout well... in the absolute purist sense we won't for a while, on account of how thoroughly corrupt the stack is.

08:43

otherwise it was punches, many a time spent on the ground gasping for air because he winded me

08:43

but... there is a cvasi-functional build dpb's been using

08:43

now i figure it was because my father had his own inadequiancies

08:44

cazalla the way i view it, especially seeing how it's other people's work & labour,

08:44

but eventually, i toppled even him

08:44

public school's a great boon. let him fail early.

08:44

rather than grow up to be 30 and THEN discover he really has no place in the world.

08:44

mircea_popescu, but public school here is not the school of hard knocks i went to, it's the school of sjw now

08:44

if there's a way to get bitcoind running on the buildroot install i'm interested, my pogo, is waiting, with it's SSD plugged in and all

08:45

davout you looked through his notes ?

08:45

i don't really care that much if it isn't 'pure'

08:45

cazalla whatever it may be. public school, it's what it is, by definition, like a floating piece of wood on water, always level.

08:45

remidns me, i need to get my pogo up and going

08:45

yeah i did

08:45

level with what

08:45

the public.

08:46

but the public today are weak

08:46

at least, even 30 years ago, you'd cop a beating from someone

08:46

so what, you'll build him a speshul earth ?

08:46

now men of tody are scared to even talk to kids

08:46

nope

08:46

if i have my way i'll take him out bush

08:46

well maybe not at 16 months.

08:47

australia is fucked beyond repair

08:47

only took 30 years

08:47

tbh i blame lack of aunts/uncles/relatives/grandparents for all this shit

08:47

when i grew up, it's all i knew

08:48

my son? 1 cousin, 1 uncle, 1 aunty, grand parents live far away, fucking nothing

08:48

so the mother bares all the burden

08:48

i got tossed all around the place just a few decades ago if not i went my own way

08:48

fucking country of pussies

08:48

someone cussing out muslims makes the mainstream media for hate crimes

08:49

meanwhile fags were bashed on live tv 25 years ago

08:49

heh

08:49

literally

08:49

fuck australia

08:49

hope the indochinese come and rape everyone

08:49

give them a real reason to cry

08:50

cazalla: https://8ch.net/hola.html

08:51

Sorry. Site went down four times before I admitted defeat.

08:51

I offered to pay the Jews off via email, maybe they will accept my offer.

08:51

yeah i know about that shitty plugin

08:51

copypaste you know i've been seeing a lot of wobble

08:51

8chan is dead already

08:51

o.O

08:51

all it took was some jews with some plugins

08:51

hehe

08:51

it's worse than that

08:51

all imageboards without CAPTCHA are dead

08:51

due to this plugin. just a matter of it getting big enough for a spammer to find it fun to spam.

08:51

cazalla: you sound bitter, the cool thing about australia though is that you can easily go live in the middle of nowhere and get away form other humans

08:51

but we dont have captcha here

08:51

maybe you add assbot to 8chan eh?

08:51

copypaste o wow, leveraged tor ?

08:51

davout, not bitter, just betrayede

08:51

yes, basically Tor but a much larger network

08:52

9M exits srong

08:52

0.2% of IP space.

08:52

davout, and you can't go live in the middle of fucking nowhere, middle of nowhere IS THE FUCKING DESERT

08:52

copypaste bring it back on a pgp backend.

08:52

i can't imagine a better scenario for wot than 8chana

08:52

^

08:52

cazalla: yeah well exactly, you don't get cable tv

08:53

copypaste also, can i has mah banner on your dead page ? :D

08:54

dead page?

08:54

the site's not dead. just requires a CAPTCHA.

08:54

oh oh sorry my bad

08:54

you know if you added a wot requirement to post, people would either capitulate and join or leave

08:54

i misunderstood.

08:54

both scenario is good outcome

08:54

copypaste i thought you were ddosed into the ground.

08:54

nah, it was a layer 7 DoS against post.pp

08:54

fucking winter so cold here

08:55

we have ducted heating but.. gets too hot

08:55

i'll think about it some more in the morning. what would stop bots from generating PGP keys? unless i forced them into being at a certain PGp level of course

08:55

wow

08:55

copypaste l2p

08:55

copypaste for one thing, generating keys is reasonably intensive

08:55

i can go and create 6 million pgp keys

08:55

what standing would that give me here?

08:55

as i said

08:55

unless i force them into being at a certain WoT level

08:56

so whip it

08:56

but at that point it's no longer an anonymous BBS.

08:56

whip it good

08:56

copypaste: also feed them to phuctor

08:56

copypaste in truth all imagebnoards were always pseudonymous

08:56

you can't have absolute anonimitycan you.

08:56

true. well, 8chan lets you post over Tor.

08:56

if you fill out a captcha and stand on one leg while sticking your tongue out

08:56

:)

08:56

fullchan4jtta4sx.onion

08:56

copypaste this is how pgp evens the odds : a new sig costs about 10x more cycles to make

08:56

than the spam costs you

08:57

well, that's only for a secure public key.

08:57

i could make a PGP key with just any data.

08:57

ips were cheap before, and you still could handle it. now that they became much cheaper they also became a problem

08:57

it doesn't need to be secure if i just want to spam

08:57

that's true

08:58

and you can replace captcha with pgp challenge

08:59

more more more

08:59

always on for 1st use, or if spammy.

08:59

like this :

08:59

!rate herp 1 derp

08:59

herp is not registered in WoT.

08:59

meh

08:59

!rate cazalla 1 derp

08:59

Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/9ce79021008ac55f

08:59

i don't really care

08:59

you put that on the page, they verify they can use pgp, that's it.

08:59

was drunk before, will be a drunk after

08:59

cazalla i was getting an otp to show hw dood.

09:00

nah you were being passive aggressive

09:00

lol

09:00

lol. im rarely agressive and never passive.

09:00

on the defensive?

09:01

i'll sell you my missus for 1 btc

09:01

what says you

09:01

copypaste, taker?

09:01

fuck i'll give her away for free

09:01

not even shitting you

09:01

there's ~3bn women i don't know out there, and at most 20mn btc

09:01

you do the math.

09:01

don't even need to

09:01

a satoshi?

09:02

i shouldn't even be in this fucking situation

09:02

well so get out then.

09:02

bit difficult when a kid is involved

09:02

maybe bitcoin will allow me to have another missus elsewhere

09:02

or maybe jesus will.

09:03

but i'll never leave/ditch her on account of her mothering my son

09:03

she's a good mum mind you

09:03

so then.

09:03

just a shitty missus/lay/fuck/cook/cleaner/talker

09:03

imagine a woman that can't even cook

09:03

she tried to cook me a meal last week when i did a one day first aid course

09:04

neway copypaste dun despair man. as seinfeld rabi says, "often, in life, there are problems - and just as often, there are solutions"

09:04

wasn't even ready by 10pm

09:04

told her to fuck it and put it in the bin

09:04

how hard is it to cook lamb shanks

09:04

so teach her how to cook.

09:04

in a slow cooker

09:04

why should i teach her? her father/mother should've

09:04

she's mid 30s

09:04

i'll tell you : she prolly set it too low because she was trying too hard not to fuck up.

09:04

not for me to teach her anything at that age

09:04

yeah i know exactly what you mean

09:04

dude forget shoulds. she's your wife, no shoulds.

09:05

fucks up because of fear of fucking up

09:05

she really needs a beating

09:05

just to have a good cry if anything

09:05

not so far.

09:05

think of it (teaching her to cook) as an investment in your children's mother/teacher

09:05

fwiw i dont think anyone needs to be taught to cook

09:05

should come from within

09:05

i never read much as half a cook book

09:05

you don't beat women for existing eh. beating is corrective or perhaps aesthetic, not fucking psychological release.

09:05

but i can cook

09:06

well aintcha a little bush hero :D

09:06

Adlai, i cook the kid's meals, not her

09:06

erryone that knows to cook does, and erryone who doesn't doesn't. either teach her or else suffar.

09:06

exactly why you should teach her, so you don't have to do it all yourself

09:06

mircea_popescu, yeah well i stomped grapes, she didn't, there ya go

09:06

Adlai, i love cooking

09:06

cooking is like breathing

09:07

except my kitchen doesn't turn into a garbage dump from people just standing there breathing

09:07

Adlai they've got one hell of a thing going, woman fucks up because she's too petrified of doing a bad job an' disappointing him, and he won't teach her because he's petrified of not being able to, and disappointing her.

09:07

you two need to get over each other.

09:07

mircea_popescu, no-one taught me

09:07

so ?

09:07

yet i can cook for a king or pleb

09:08

what, the world is equal to your own personal experience ?

09:08

well now, we've all gotta eat

09:08

and by eat

09:08

i bet no one breastfed you, either.

09:08

i mean eat

09:08

"it takes a tough man to cook a tender chicken" or teach a good lesson

09:08

mircea_popescu, 2 years

09:08

so clearly i hate on the bitch for only managing 12 months

09:08

eh don't sell yourself short, you prolly made that tit.

09:09

and she only did it because i forced it

09:09

or, just like the rest of the mothers in her "mums group" she would've gone to formula

09:09

"The terms are simple: you get the first $1,000 every new Luminati customer that you referred, spends with us."

09:09

may as well toss the kid in the bin at that point like a fucked up meal

09:09

who ever heard of this bullshit that breastfeeding is something most women can't do

09:10

yet down under.. standard

09:10

notwithstanding the inconvenience this is causing our friend, interesting service.

09:11

in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/ac2966bbf55bb0146933fc09d63e3e92/tumblr_myszimu3Y61s7i603o1_400.gif

09:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67980 @ 0.00029027 = 19.7326 BTC [-] {3}

09:12

fucking performance.

09:13

cazalla listen, in any case : you gotta do things together. that's the long and the short of it. now, if she sucks then what you do will be training, but there's no out of this.

09:14

i forget if i read this on trilema

09:14

or some other site

09:14

the things that attract you to someone in the beginning are things you end up hating about that preson

09:15

if this is the case you got a problem.

09:15

yeah i know this

09:15

i know i ahve a problem

09:15

sorta what i am whining about eh

09:15

no kid? i'd be gone already

09:15

kid?

09:15

bit of a degenerate to abandon him

09:15

if i drop dead at 50 and he takes the lot so be it

09:16

so you got yourself a conflict. better stuff of life.

09:16

won't leave him without a father though

09:16

it is, notably, not the woman's fault that you got yourself a conflict.

09:16

nope, not her fault at all

09:16

my own fault

09:16

100%

09:16

which is why i stay and suffer

09:16

and in the latest eulora news : today's bug is, "mp just got a large mining find, so large in fact that it didn't fit in his mining claim, so it got truncated."

09:17

would be easy to leave if i ascribed 100% of the blame to her

09:17

who fucking knew, before today, this is a problem o.O

09:17

she's mine, he's mine

09:17

and that is that and if it kills me so be it, he'll have a father to do things with and so it goes

09:17

rahter off myself than leave him alone with her

09:17

i somehow dun think it'll kill ya

09:18

well it all adds up eh

09:18

already aged 10 years in the past 16 months

09:18

stopped drinking for 2-3 year before he sprung up

09:18

no-one puts the drink to my mouth mind you

09:19

right.

09:19

i mean tbh sometimes i regret even waking up

09:19

it'd be nice to just lay down, sleep and that's that

09:19

heh

09:19

no better way to go

09:20

and i've seen worse

09:20

trains

09:20

car

09:20

necked

09:20

http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8zahcz491rsv2j1o1_1280.png << i wonder why these never caught on.

09:21

bed is bliss in comparison

09:21

diamond ring for wedding, whore necklace for divorce

09:21

anyway just as my wife is, youare the exception to the rule so futile to compare

09:21

would ya believe though it was nothing less than a mexican negro half caste which convinced me about this woman

09:21

all because she played zelda

09:22

fuck me and my youth

09:22

lol wut ?

09:22

"gamer girlfriend"

09:22

FUCK YOU PIPEDREAM!

09:22

what a criterion lol.

09:22

should've gone to the locale catholic or even mormon church to find a woman

09:22

haah i know right

09:22

western man

09:22

chasing a waifu gamer girl

09:23

what a fucking con that was

09:23

they play fucking iphone games

09:23

and she does to this day

09:23

here's one for you : the only she-assassin i ever met actually proposed to me.

09:23

playing some bastardised plants vs zombies shit

09:23

she sounded a lot like you, amusingly. about as drunk.

09:23

an ex gf wanted to get amrried and have kids

09:23

was emailing me blocks of land many years ago

09:24

fucked her off

09:24

an' why ?

09:24

because no woman i met was really like that

09:24

most australian women are like men

09:24

want to fuck and part ways

09:24

aha

09:24

seriously surprised i even spawned a kid

09:25

if it wasnt for the fact he looks like a carbon copy

09:25

i'd go innawoods

09:25

if it wasnt for him

09:25

live on crown land

09:25

little hut

09:26

chop some wood

09:26

more lumber mi lord

09:26

no interwebs ?

09:26

be happy to ditch it at this point tbh

09:26

maybe login, download logs/emails and that be that

09:27

no www shit is worth a shit at this point or has been for years, gaming is dead for at least a decade

09:27

it is all fucked

09:27

all fucked

09:27

fucked

09:27

from experience, this retirement thing lasts about a year

09:27

three if you're very stubborn

09:27

then let me die within 3 years

09:27

all i want is a bit more land

09:27

small orchard, more gardens, live stock

09:28

compy 386 to grab some files for some reading

09:28

i specifically remember this point in high school thinking about the future

09:28

nothing has fkn changed

09:28

maybe a bit of lipstick on the pig that is hte internet

09:29

but really nothing has changed

09:29

fuck this gay earth

09:29

well... better video.

09:29

not even

09:30

shitty 320*200 jpg got me more exicted than the 4k porn of today

09:31

better people too

09:31

"better class of people"

09:34

meh. 20 years ago chicks kinda sucked at sex.

09:37

zzzzzzzzzz

09:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57317 @ 0.00029724 = 17.0369 BTC [+] {2}

09:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.0002863 = 9.0757 BTC [-] {2}

09:49

asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/stats < did the loader script die or something /

09:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53886 @ 0.00028618 = 15.4211 BTC [-]

09:57

mircea_popescu: nope. last night when got home, turned on experiment where it snarfs from pre-filtered (i.e. having rsa moduli) keys

09:58

still not caught up yet though

09:58

possibly tonight will write a civilized loader which forgoes the idiocy of setting up http connection for each key submitted and pumps straight into the db

09:59

ah cool.

10:00

what's whis by now, phuctor three major and twelve minor revisiona later

10:00

1 major

10:00

lost-count-how-many minor

10:00

let's argue about classification!

10:00

l0l

10:01

btw that cazalla thread would make for great reading alongside of the 'why not have children' thread from during c3

10:01

it's not for everyone.

10:02

actually... there's that chinese dizident

10:02

which thing is for everyone? only death, afaik, is definitely 'for everyone.'

10:02

http://trilema.com/2012/cine-se-casatoreste/

10:03

asciilifeform not even death. definitely not for woody allen & co.

10:04

mod6

i should have waited on my key-retest. lol, got 119764 infront of it in the queue now.

10:05

mod6 i think they're behind not in front

10:07

mod6

ah, well, at first there was only 2 in Moduli Remaining, but that number has been climbing.

10:07

mod6

no worries.

10:08

mircea_popescu: that article is a tough cookie for my puny brain

10:08

mircea_popescu: consider brief spoiler ?

10:08

it's insanely hard to translate, because as written it's nearly pure poetry.

10:08

but i shall endeavour.

10:08

i get this.

10:19

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2015#1145303 << mircea_popescu went to school with built-in graveyard ?

10:19

Logged on 26-05-2015 12:44:10; mircea_popescu: public school's a great boon. let him fail early.

10:20

howssat ?

10:21

in context of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2015#1145304

10:21

Logged on 26-05-2015 12:44:32; mircea_popescu: rather than grow up to be 30 and THEN discover he really has no place in the world.

10:22

the basic observation is sound, in that we have a 'mouse experiment' situation where men (specifically) are built considerably in excess of how many 'places' are to be had for them

10:24

myeah.

10:24

but outside of quasi-mythical sparta, the winnowing in the past was worked by 'four horsemen' rather than specially-designed school

10:28

nobody died when/where i went to schoo, contrary to whining to the contrary.

10:28

idem in the army (not that i went, but i can count as well as anyone)

10:30

mircea_popescu: so what cut down the superfluous males ?

10:31

(implication was - that they died. unless i misread)

10:32

no, implication was that they came to terms with their life.

10:32

why perpetuate the delusion, at great cost and for no benefit ?

10:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00029231 = 11.0493 BTC [+]

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10:59

asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/he-who-gets-married/

11:00

danielpbarron asciilifeform re mircea_popescu's comments earlier regarding bitcoind's pogo, is there any way that i can get it running on the buildroot install before we actually manage to pull-off a static build?

11:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54225 @ 0.00029239 = 15.8548 BTC [+]

11:04

mircea_popescu: they came to terms with their life. << did i forget to take my morning lsd today, or what? who and where ever 'came to terms with their life' ?

11:04

is that a quote ?

11:06

which

11:06

1st sentence - no

11:06

just statement of utter bewilderment

11:07

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43874 @ 0.0002983 = 13.0876 BTC [+]

11:08

Dear Judge Forrest,

11:08

I am writing you this letter in anticipation of my upcoming sentencing. This is a challenging letter to write because, as one who faces punishment, I have a strong incentive to say anything I think might result in leniency. But I have endeavored to be honest and forthright throughout this process, and so I will be in this letter as well.

11:08

example.

11:09

what next, link to confessions from the trials of '37 ?

11:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41050 @ 0.00029239 = 12.0026 BTC [-]

11:09

"If I had realized the impact my creation of Silk Road would ultimately have on the people I care about most, I never would have created Silk Road."

11:09

hey.

11:09

i never bought into the trotskist explainatorism.

11:10

to me, it stands, as what they said.

11:10

the gods could write a riotously funny book of what folks said while sitting on stakes, boiling in oil, etc

11:10

tough.

11:11

weird notion, that somehow "justice" creates a responsibility vacuum.

11:11

interestingly, it is a well-documented fact that when ivan iv sat his courtiers down on stakes, a very common (if not most common) last few hours was shouting 'god save the king'

11:11

meanwhile, there's this woman, who was arrested in '52 alongisde her two year old daughter.

11:11

cazalla doesn't think much of his wife, but this woman raised a child while hiding in the mountains

11:12

with her own gun. two winters up there, with her guy. who, also arrested.

11:12

mircea_popescu: and rogozov performed a self-appendectomy in the antarctic.

11:12

what of it.

11:12

everything of it. what of the rest ?

11:13

what's of it is that you can't be on the edge of every single human performance envelope

11:13

three or four - granted.

11:13

all of them? lsd.

11:13

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.0002983 = 8.1287 BTC [+]

11:13

this one, and another of your choice.

11:14

this one alone will do.

11:14

this one alone sums up to afghanistan.

11:14

three or four or fifty nine others - unlikely.

11:14

i do not look up to afghanistan as peak of human culture. but that's just imho.

11:14

culture, no. but culture is not the goal.

11:15

culture is merely the byproduct.

11:15

let me guess of what

11:15

He who gets married.... http://trilema.com/2015/he-who-gets-married/

11:15

of surviving ?

11:16

e. coli has us beat hands down, at that

11:16

depends what you mean by surviving.

11:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.0002983 = 7.4277 BTC [+]

11:21

mircea_popescu: how did the mountain episode end ?

11:21

she died.

11:21

http://www.eroinenucsoara.ro/maria-plop-ro.php

11:22

everybody dies

11:23

she died in prison a year or so later.

11:23

and i will point out that this is not performance.

11:23

according to the link, did surrender eventually

11:23

everything else, including dance, is performance. this is merely being.

11:24

asciilifeform sure, no find me the "Dear judge fuckwit" bit.

11:24

mircea_popescu: do you know the story of schrodinger's public pant-shitting ?

11:24

where he wrote a similar letter to hitler

11:25

which - didn't work

11:25

myeah

11:25

note that im not proposing he's any worse a physicist for it.

11:25

one would imagine folks would've learned by now

11:25

not to do this

11:25

i wouldn't let him marry my daughter on the account.

11:26

iirc he never lacked a harem

11:27

that was einstein

11:27

this guy merely had a a live-in gf.

11:28

schrodinger was, iirc, fired from oxford for 'bigamy'

11:28

more or less. but seriously, who doesn't.

11:28

l0l

11:40

amusingly, the schrodinger letter to the adolf hitler university senate is not to be found in english

11:40

freedom of derp.

11:50

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5000 @ 0.0002225 = 1.1125 BTC [-]

12:04

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9920 @ 0.00021753 = 2.1579 BTC [+] {7}

~ 23 minutes ~

12:27

[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 17408 @ 0.00017168 = 2.9886 BTC [-] {3}

12:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00029892 = 7.9812 BTC [+] {2}

12:46

<cazalla> fwiw i dont think anyone needs to be taught to cook << nah man it's applied thermo, it must needs be taught or learned through experience

12:46

<mircea_popescu> well aintcha a little bush hero :D << lzlzoll

12:48

<cazalla> which is why i stay and suffer << bail with the bairn?

12:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25977 @ 0.00029961 = 7.783 BTC [+]

~ 20 minutes ~

13:15

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/jeremy-warner/11616509/Jeremy-Warner-How-Iraq-has-left-us-with-the-biggest-financial-bubble-in-history.html

13:16

"It is also true that contrary to much prediction at the time, it has not proved particularly inflationary."

13:16

"One thing it has done, however, is put a renewed rocket under asset prices. From fine art and metropolitan property prices, to bond markets and equities, seemingly everything has gone through the roof."

13:16

how

13:16

do people

13:16

reconcile

13:16

this shit

13:16

"it's not inflationary except in how it is"

13:24

just another day in sunny cascadia http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/26_just-another-day-in-sunny-cascadia.html

13:31

!up ascii_field

13:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30629 @ 0.00029973 = 9.1804 BTC [+] {2}

13:45

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Miscellany:Confession_to_the_F%C3%BChrer << schrödinger's shameful letter. english.

13:46

The operation succeeded.

14:01

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.vivid.ro/vivid65/pages65/feature65.htm << not entirely unknown in english world

14:02

The operation succeeded.

14:08

http://fusion.net/story/139703/self-parking-car-accident-no-pedestrian-detection/

14:12

ben_vulpes: I think obedience runs (and mustn't it run) far deeper than reason

14:12

inflation is the govt figure published for inflation

14:13

that's what it *is*

14:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00029942 = 10.0905 BTC [-]

14:19

ascii_field o joy!

14:19

nice find

14:19

ben_vulpes way of lyf.

14:20

ascii_field .ro is romania >D

14:22

!up ascii_field

14:22

mircea_popescu: well yes but it sprechens inglisch

14:23

yeh

14:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17042 @ 0.00029942 = 5.1027 BTC [-]

14:40

hm #bitcoin-assets (or really freenode) just told me I'm not an op of #b-a

14:40

don't believe I performed any operations which would require that...

14:42

https://blocksizedebate.com/ perhaps someone with hn account can lure him here

14:44

and what he pulled the predictions from

14:44

'futarchy' ?!

14:44

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/05/futarchy-considered-retarded.html << obligatory mr mold !

14:46

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Analysis_Market lol what a gem

14:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33952 @ 0.0002999 = 10.1822 BTC [+]

14:53

"One such market, Intrade, had previously offered futures on events such as the capture of Osama bin Laden, the U.S. Presidential Election, and the bombing of Iran. As of March 10, 2013 though, all trading had been suspended on Intrade's website due to undisclosed financial irregularities."

14:55

!up BigBitz

14:55

!up ascii_field

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15:12

Former Vault of Satoshi Customers in a Lurch http://qntra.net/2015/05/former-vault-of-satoshi-customers-in-a-lurch/

15:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55200 @ 0.00029581 = 16.3287 BTC [-] {2}

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15:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61400 @ 0.00029976 = 18.4053 BTC [+] {2}

15:49

!up ascii_field

15:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.0002999 = 2.7891 BTC [+]

16:06

jurov: whoever wrote that sounds like a drooling moron

16:07

"prediction markets" ... "not a real-money market" ... *predictions down to the cent on price/node count*

16:08

cent/single-digit

16:08

oh lol, they actually gave decimals for the number of nodes too

16:09

;;later tell mircea_popescu the binary symmetries thing trivially follows from the mirrored 32-bit words. work it out on paper.

16:09

The operation succeeded.

16:10

glad somebody other than me noticed. now if only somebody other than me were willing to write the obvious proggy

16:10

http://i.imgur.com/TFvb1OK.png?1

16:11

BingoBoingo: wat

16:12

Apparently more things are genetic. Today amputations, during the French revolution twas decapitations.

16:14

> obvious proggy

16:14

hyu

16:15

ben_vulpes: have a cup'o'coffee (or standard dose of whatever your favourite performance-enhancing dope) and you'll see it.

16:16

hint: multiplication is commutative.

16:16

i have to say that i'm having trouble holding the whole keysmashing party in my head

16:17

incidentally, the thing mircea_popescu suggested doing in his article, http://trilema.com/2015/the-universal-rsa-keys - won't work

16:18

or at least, will fail often (when both factors of a modulus appear an even number of times)

16:18

ascii_field, another trivial thing that follows from the mirroring: every N has 641 and 6700417 as prime factors

16:18

but the 'magical' moduli still break into integers small enough to factor trivially on pc

16:18

why is left as an exercice for the reader

16:19

Apocalyptic: i assume you've already worked out the whole thing

16:19

and perhaps mircea_popescu also did, but hasn't seen it fit to confess

16:20

!up ascii_field

16:21

I guess it depends on what "whole thing" you have in mind

16:21

Apocalyptic: proggy which breaks all of the magic moduli on ordinary pc in a few sec.

16:21

into demonstrably prime pieces

16:23

i'm just getting started, do you have built such a thing ?

16:24

Apocalyptic: no. but i suspect that one of you already did.

16:25

ascii_field i dun follow ?

16:28

chan demands ELI5!

16:29

you fellas don't like puzzles do ya

16:30

lmao @ fakeissueweretooretardedtounderstand.com

16:30

where do these dudes come from srsly.

16:31

jurov in any case, the dumbass "prediction market" thing has a core of rabid fandom, sort-of like whatever subcultural obscura

16:33

actually, folks who specialize in stuffing ballot boxes (or the higher-tech usian variant of this, mass-programming meat-puppets for correct-voting) just -love- 'futarchy'

16:34

as to the symmetries : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/rsa-mystery-one.png for instance doesn't seem like it's 100% bit shifted

16:35

there are some spots where it breaks down

16:35

mircea_popescu: where ?

16:35

2nd line 4th bit

16:35

59/56

16:35

84 0c 3e 59 84 0c 3e 59

16:36

0th error!

16:36

5th bit in your universe

16:36

5th bit from bottom of modulus ?

16:37

hm wtf.

16:38

well, that 2nd line is all messed up. so first 3 identical, plus 1 on the prev line at end. ok.

16:39

ignore the colours

16:39

the colourizer is dumb as brick

16:39

then bits 4-7 different. then bits 8-11 identical

16:39

but then... mess.

16:39

i dunno, i just cursorily looked at it and didn't expect on the strength of what i saw to actually have DIVISORS that are 32bitshift-and-add

16:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73889 @ 0.00029347 = 21.6842 BTC [-] {2}

16:40

appears to follow same pattern as all of them - take each 64 bits, copy bottom 32 over top 32

16:40

ad nauseum

16:40

the divisors ? yes. problem is, if you look at the moduli they don't actually follow that pattern exactly throughout

16:41

moreover, if they did, the result would have to be a divisor that's more like 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 00000000 1 etc.

16:41

not a 64 bit number

16:42

BingoBoingo "unclaimed funds would be reduced by 25% per month until there was no balance." << somebody skipped stochastics 101 i take it.

16:43

ascii_field but be this as it may, the "won't work" part is much more interesting. wjhy wouldn't the pre-salted keys not work ?

16:43

won't work ?

16:43

<ascii_field> incidentally, the thing mircea_popescu suggested doing in his article, http://trilema.com/2015/the-universal-rsa-keys - won't work <<

16:44

because gcd(prod, x) ends up equal to x

16:44

right...

16:45

if it does, you know all those factors are in keys. if it ends up equal to y, y < x... you've excluded some.

16:45

which will now be popped in future keys.

16:45

it's just intended as a catchall.

16:48

an' in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/eb2292f8fb4f8799ea98c7055d9fa249/tumblr_mz0eopKK8p1smxk21o1_400.gif

16:51

!up ascii_field

16:52

mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/07TZSNW

16:53

mircea_popescu: replace the test in your copy of 'litmus' with this.

16:53

or not

16:53

mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1TNXJDZ << whole thing

16:54

probably should have done this from the start

16:55

i suppose this would be equivalent, if in fact the moduli were uniformly mangled by the shifting.

16:55

it seems to me still this isn't thecase.

16:55

mircea_popescu: seems so

16:56

mircea_popescu: ./litmus_new.py litmus_mod_only litmus_mods_mirrored

16:56

98/98 come out.

16:56

o.O

16:56

which is to say, it so happens that all the mods which had bottom 64 bits be a mirror pair (as per my original mods-only litmus) had full shebang.

16:57

try it yourself. (addressed to everyone)

16:57

heh. that's some very reliable accident.

16:58

now, exercise for reader

16:58

we now know merely that each key has one or more mirrored modulus

16:58

but nothing in particular about ones which were -not-.

17:00

at any rate, we now have a rigorous definition of the type of integer we are concerned with:

17:00

mirrored(n)

17:01

though, for rigour's sake, i will add that n is a multiple-of-64 bits-long, and is nonzero

17:10

ascii_field and you don't see a case where such a modulo would not be detected owing to the happenstance that it shares no factors with other keys ?

17:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.000296 = 11.248 BTC [+] {3}

17:12

mircea_popescu: remember how i did litmus

17:12

it has nothing to do with phuctor proper

17:13

ran on the entire key db

17:13

now there could easily be -other- classes of strange

17:13

that's a point.

17:13

but as for mirrored moduli, we have'em all

17:13

well, sure, there could be all sorts of classes, but there's no call to poke at crabs with a window wiper.

17:13

i guess that puts it to rest

17:14

now write down n as a diophantine equation

17:14

anyway : mirrored moduli will necessarily have a factor of the form 0x00000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000

17:15

however long the key is.

17:15

aha

17:15

there we go

17:15

which would seem like "a long prime"

17:16

and once you've divided by the 'long' turd, what you're left with is small change

17:16

factor just as well on '486'.

17:16

yup

17:17

bbbbuttt c0sm1c r4yz !!11!

17:19

"Of course, we can't understand prediction markets until we understand markets. A market in any two fungible goods, A and B, is any device for discovering the A/B ratio P which equalizes D, the number of people who want to trade P units of A for one unit of B, with S, the number of people who want to trade one unit of B for P units of A."

17:19

and there he goes, right off into retarded.

17:23

first off, a market is not a "device". a market is a PLACE. second off, markets exist in unfungible goods - fungibility is not involved. third off, markets exist ONLY with currency, which IS NOT a good. on it goes.

17:24

the sun's the marketplace for some nucleons trading out energy.

17:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51650 @ 0.00028859 = 14.9057 BTC [-] {3}

17:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.0002999 = 9.7468 BTC [+]

17:42

!up hegemoOn

17:42

wanted to share this article http://parasec.net/transmission/order-book-visualisation/

17:43

a "nanex" like study about 4 months trade on bitstamp

17:43

:)

17:43

and bitcoin electronic trading

17:43

thanks danielpbarron for the +v

17:44

you wrote it ?

17:45

no

17:45

https://twitter.com/nanexllc/status/603303370129047552

17:45

this is the source

17:49

aha ok

17:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89650 @ 0.00028627 = 25.6641 BTC [-] {2}

17:52

<mircea_popescu> anyway : mirrored moduli will necessarily have a factor of the form 0x00000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000000000010000000000000001000000000000000100000000 // how so ?

17:52

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-05-2015#1145602 <<< meh i was rolling down drunk, but being a dad is great fun, just stressful at times

17:52

Logged on 26-05-2015 14:01:21; asciilifeform: btw that cazalla thread would make for great reading alongside of the 'why not have children' thread from during c3

17:53

good night :)

17:57

Apocalyptic because if you take 84357349875 and make it 883377448877 then it necessarily will be divisible by 837487

17:58

!up duduqa

17:59

Apocalyptic 80307040807*

18:02

and with that i must bid you a very good night.

18:04

good night

18:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71000 @ 0.0002999 = 21.2929 BTC [+]

~ 22 minutes ~

18:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72462 @ 0.00028611 = 20.7321 BTC [-] {2}

18:50

;;gettrust moarrr

18:50

Currently authenticated from hostmask moarrr!6d91fcbf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.145.252.191. Trust relationship from user Adlai to user moarrr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Adlai&dest=moarrr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=moarrr | Rated since: Mon Apr 8 10:32:15 2013

18:50

myeah but this is in base 10 and you're using the fact that it's divisible by 11 which is 10^1+1 because you mirror only 1 digit-base here, it's exactly analogous to my " every N has 641 and 6700417 as prime factors" earlier claim since notice that 641*6700417 = 2^32 + 1, which corresponds to a 32-bit mirror window length

18:51

http://pastebin.com/PfAnpwU5

18:54

;;later tell mircea_popescu maybe i'm misunderstanding something simple but you could give such a factor for 0xffaaccddffaaccdd3c4b7ff83c4b7ff8 , it's a random 128 bit number constructed as the moduli in question, ( and 0x1000000000000000100000000 does not divide it)

18:54

The operation succeeded.

~ 24 minutes ~

19:19

Hello all, thought I'd help beef up the logs. Been looking hollow last couple of days!

19:20

*

Adlai slaps williamdunne around a bit with a large trout

19:20

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williamdunne force feeds Adlai three kippers

19:22

have you come around on the blocksize yet?

19:22

iirc, you thought it needed enlargenizing

19:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00029965 = 6.4724 BTC [+]

19:23

Not quite, I still think at some point it will need to be bigger. Just not Gavin-sized

19:23

And not soon, either

19:23

why would it ever need to be bigger?

19:24

7tx/s doesn't seem enough even for small amounts of utility with summin like lightening on top

19:24

it works equally well/poorly at 1mb and 2mb

19:24

*3

19:24

Well, its just a matter of volume isn't it

19:24

i guess a better question is "what does 'not Gavin-sized' mean"

19:24

smaller? larger? dynamiker? polymorfic?

19:26

Gavin-sized is the 50% increase every fuckknows for so many years starting at 20mb

19:26

With the goal being sticking everything in the blockchain

19:26

I think fluffypony's Monero's way of doing it is pretty interesting tho

19:27

But y'know, an experiment

19:28

for logs' sake, how does fluffypony do it in lolero?

19:28

fun fact: Google has the full source to Flash

19:29

you do too, it's just been preprocessed :)

19:29

Mining constantly incentivized by permanent sub 1% inflation, and a dynamic block size which allows something like the median block size of past week +20%

19:29

Which of course can go up or down as demand changes

19:29

And there is a proposal to automatically reset historical blockchain every x days/months/years to resolve transaction size issue

19:29

permanent inflation ^_^

19:30

Well

19:30

Y'know what I mean

19:30

Constant issuance rather than a hard ceiling like we have in bitcoin

19:30

cursory glance confirms that monero has permanent disinflation

19:30

kinda like qntra!

19:31

and i don't even have to spam my qntra pushes across the entire userbase

19:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142450 @ 0.00028853 = 41.1011 BTC [-] {3}

19:31

Scoop does that for you

19:31

But yeah, kinda like Qntra shares

19:32

trouble is, there'll come a day when bitcoin inflation is lower than monflation

19:32

fun fact: nasdaq runs the investor relations portals for most of the fortune 500 companies, on adobe coldfusion

19:33

wait, the f500 are treated by nasdaq as *investors*? ^_^

19:33

this thing runs as SYSTEM by default, written in java, and the code was stolen some time ago

19:33

<3

19:33

mats: Does anyone other than "Finance" and "Higher Education" really use coldfusion?

19:34

Jeremy Allaire would be proud

19:35

ive noticed a lot of municipalities using it

19:37

Just read my first bit of ColdFusion, how does anyone write something more complex than Hello World! in it?

19:37

a surprisingly large number of folks run java EE and .NET application servers

19:38

NIST did, for example

19:38

http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/nists-national-vulnerability-database-vulnerable/

19:39

*

BingoBoingo imagines what happened was Adobe was giving schools Phree Dreamweaver for classes, and they just ran with it all the way

19:39

*

williamdunne shudders

19:40

Then again, I began using DreamWeaver (mx?) when I was like 6-7

19:42

fun fact: there is a particular ACPI table in that you can put anywhere in a low range of memory during boot, and Windows will take the payload data, drop it as an EXE, and run it as SYSTEM.

19:44

Security ++

19:45

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mats returns to studying ios jailbreaks

19:45

Its a shame you can't !down IRL

19:45

"The UK government should apply the same regulation and identification requirements to bitcoin wallets as it does to bank accounts, Accenture has advised."

19:59

!s whip the sea

19:59

3 results for 'whip the sea' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=whip+the+sea

20:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00029965 = 8.3902 BTC [+]

20:10

!up kalki

20:12

kalki

well howdy, thanks BingoBoingo

20:12

;;ticker --market buttchina

20:12

BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.819412, Best ask: 238.821024, Bid-ask spread: 0.00161, Last trade: 238.821024, 24 hour volume: 16805.89870000, 24 hour low: 237.046212, 24 hour high: 239.79306, 24 hour vwap: 238.793813571

20:22

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69500 @ 0.00029446 = 20.465 BTC [-] {2}

20:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43150 @ 0.00029965 = 12.9299 BTC [+]

20:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42450 @ 0.00028566 = 12.1263 BTC [-]

20:46

http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/36obxt/what_i_know_about_us_export_controls_and_hacking surprisingly thorough

20:49

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44318 @ 0.00028539 = 12.6479 BTC [-] {2}

20:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23632 @ 0.00028326 = 6.694 BTC [-]

20:52

So I joined #bitcoin-assets-trades and strongly recommend it. So much lulz when assbot reports the Havelol trades. Good for at least a chuckled every time I check the feed there

20:55

!up Vexual

20:55

Vexual: what do you think about assbot trades in the main channel

20:56

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Adlai says, people who really care, can /join #bitcoin-assets-trades

20:57

Big trades seem fine. Not all that common. Tis information. Small trades though... like <assbot> [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00005229 = 0.0029 BTC [-]

20:57

it's only information if you care about it

21:00

Adlai: it's good info i guess, prolly gets digested in ways that I can't imagine

21:00

so hard to imagine?

21:00

I did like your startup, alcohol something

21:00

i'd rather expect that my imagination wildly exceeds the mundane reality

21:01

that too

21:01

it's interesting see where the trades line up with conversation in here

21:01

have any examples of that?

21:01

yes actually

21:01

!s from:adlai moves

21:01

3 results for 'from:adlai moves' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aadlai+moves

21:02

hmmm now where is it

21:03

lowercase l next to capitol I made me Iol

21:04

hanbot

<Adlai> it's only information if you care about it << that'd be a great creed for #bitcoin-assets-candyland

21:06

<Adlai> ;;later tell nubbins` http://tiffzhang.com/startup/index.html?s=837141135009

21:08

Adlai, look at the lead up to this line -> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2013#297044

21:08

Logged on 09-09-2013 19:59:48; mircea_popescu: back to 35. teh wow. teh incredible. movement!!!

21:11

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Adlai isn't sure how many seconds or days constitutes 'lead up', but found what he was seeking: https://vid.me/pYV4

21:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31479 @ 0.00028775 = 9.0581 BTC [+] {2}

21:12

mats: acpi is an abomination

21:12

and this http://trilema.com/2013/marketplace-excitement-with-expert-commentary-for-your-vicarious-trading-pleasure/

21:13

'all our ad-hoc hardware is mashed together in an ad-hoc fashion, so let's make an ad-hoc language to describe it'

21:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69408 @ 0.00028271 = 19.6223 BTC [-] {2}

21:15

here's another http://trilema.com/2013/the-broad-and-the-million-fireants-a-parable/

21:16

too expensive didnt read but ive been bitten by a fireant

21:16

terrible business

21:17

mps 8ch endeavour has left evry free vestage of trilema reading barren

21:18

lol

21:18

that's neat

21:18

how many creds does it cost to read an article?

21:19

1

21:19

thought that might be the case

21:20

although i burn most of mine reloading the same articles over and over again as i pull them up to link in forum posts and whatnot

21:20

still the minimus sees you fit to the next halving at least

21:20

the cost is negligible

21:21

yeah

21:21

tfti

21:22

pacific beach is amazing

21:22

AMAZING COMPANY!

21:22

black and gold sand

21:23

decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=18-03-2015#1056887

21:23

Logged on 18-03-2015 19:38:35; mats: another fun fact: you can physically damage XP installations via ACPI parsing and NtSystemDebugControl, entirely in usermode

21:23

and... http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2014#764319

21:23

Logged on 22-07-2014 20:06:04; Mats_cd03: and, there is an ACPI table exclusively for telling Windows not to apply fixes for buggy hardware because its in a VM, and VMM emulation of the hardware doesn't include said bugs.

21:25

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00029979 = 1.7538 BTC [+] {2}

21:27

http://doar-e.github.io/blog/2014/04/17/deep-dive-into-pythons-vm-story-of-load_const-bug

21:30

mats: that is pretty lulzy

21:31

there is a mysterious world that exists behind the nda's of american megatrends, intel, and microsoft

21:31

where they conspire to paper over tons of buggy shit

21:32

not so mysterious to the dwarves in the mines of moria

21:32

who toil in the darkness to dig out the nuggets of choice turd

21:32

for highest bidder

21:32

heh

21:33

also there must be a significant taiwan connection, because that's where the buggy hardware is made

21:33

where's our 'snowden' from that world?

21:33

the atlas lies: taiwan is not actually a country

21:33

rather, it is a u.s. aircraft carrier - which simply happens to be made of earth

21:33

heh yeah

21:34

and an army of local natives to staff it

21:35

so apparently the evidence is that you can buy loyalty by employing h1b serfs, not by paying contractors in a derpy bureaucracy

21:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83400 @ 0.00029993 = 25.0142 BTC [+] {3}

21:36

I wonder how many people actually design a server motherboard? probably less than 10

21:37

decimation: designing a modern mb is really a 'model airplane' sorta affair

21:38

where you get a stock southbridge, dc power minutiae, cpu, bios, etc

21:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67750 @ 0.00030123 = 20.4083 BTC [+] {3}

21:39

asciilifeform: yeah, I suspect about 80% of the design is pure 'reference implementation'

21:40

where each part manufacturer will 'application engineer' their peice

21:42

asciilifeform: ending up in a situation where 'nobody is in charge'

21:43

which explains why building computer hardware looks alot more like conspiracy than product design

21:45

fun fact: the original iPhone shipped without privilege separation, and in tandem with a libtiff bug Chris Wade wrote an exploit that made it possible to root a user visiting a web page

21:45

mats: aha. famously. lotsa folks cracked theirs using this

21:45

notably, before there was an 'app store' from apple

21:45

i remember

21:46

yeah interestingly apple outta be an exception, given the weight they can throw around

21:50

dijkstra: "My conclusion is that it is becoming most urgent to stop to consider programming primarily as the minimization of a cost/performance ratio. We should recognise that already now programming is much more an intellectual challenge: the art of programming is the art of organising complexity, of mastering multitude and avoiding its bastard chaos as effectively as possible.

21:58

!up Vexual How much does that roo salami sell for?

22:06

;;google rapetosaurus

22:06

Rapetosaurus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapetosaurus>; Rapetosaurus - Prehistoric Wildlife: <http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/species/r/rapetosaurus.html>; R is for Rapetosaurus – Phenomena: <http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/10/r-is-for-rapetosaurus/>

22:10