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02:35 scoopbot_revived Burn the witch ! http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/24/burn-the-witch/
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03:51 scoopbot_revived Bluetouff conviction upheld by French Supreme Court http://qntra.net/2015/05/bluetouff-conviction-upheld-by-french-supreme-court/
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09:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35568 @ 0.00030047 = 10.6871 BTC [+]
09:59 scoopbot_revived The One I Love http://trilema.com/2015/the-one-i-love/
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10:27 mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski your latest header sucks yo
10:27 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-05-2015#1144389 <<< there's no guarantee p and q have the same bitsize is there ?
10:28 assbot Logged on 23-05-2015 20:15:57; Apocalyptic: since p has exactly the same size as q I would say it's quite ok to use the size of p for both, although it's not intuitive that it's correct
10:28 mircea_popescu howly shit, that's an incredibru log! yay.
10:33 mircea_popescu ;;seen isaackl
10:33 gribble isaackl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <isaackl> mircea_popescu: and how do you prefer to communicate? all through the channel?
10:34 mircea_popescu hm where'd that guy go.
10:36 mircea_popescu !up novusordo
10:38 mircea_popescu http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/05/23_in-la-serenissima-inflation-prices-you-in.html << nb. ben_vulpes you know i respek the entire "fuck you php" purity and everything, but fuck man, i can't leave comments. i guess i wave at you here instead, which worx.
10:39 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/7a8a1d14ac873749bc84725b701500b2/tumblr_mz8rv7sm4e1sr05ioo1_500.gif
10:45 Apocalyptic "there's no guarantee p and q have the same bitsize is there ?" // I think there is, a couple of lines above it generates them both with nbits/2 bits, so I would say yes, unless there is a bug in "generate_secret_prime", because this function specifically sets the two high bits to 1
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10:46 mircea_popescu this is true, but you have no guarantee you will only be handling keys generated by your own generator.
10:46 mircea_popescu it's not in the standard they're the same size, is it ?
10:46 mircea_popescu (i have trouble recalling that whole spec, which is one of the things that are fucking wrong with it)
10:47 Apocalyptic and this is from a very quick look at the gen_prime function, a more thorough analysis may reveal something else
10:48 Apocalyptic <mircea_popescu> this is true, but you have no guarantee you will only be handling keys generated by your own generator. // afaik this is not related to handling keys, the snippet mats pasted is key-generation related
10:48 mircea_popescu i just meant in teh general.
10:48 Apocalyptic <mircea_popescu> it's not in the standard they're the same size, is it ? // I confess I have no idea what the standard says
10:49 Apocalyptic in general there is no size restrictions on the primes
10:49 mircea_popescu not as in "what rsa means", as in "what rsa 4096" means
10:50 mircea_popescu is rsa 4096 bit a guarantee you will have an n 4096 bits long (i think) or is it actually you will have two primes 2048 bits long each, with high bit set each.
10:51 Apocalyptic good question, I so far assumed it's the former
10:51 mircea_popescu i think it's the former yeah. which is why the "p=q" thing triggers the reader, i guess
10:52 mats id like to run tests but i dun have the ability to do so right now
10:52 mats and yes i was referring to those particular lines Apocalyptic
10:56 mircea_popescu so google chrome actually beat firefox huh.
10:58 Apocalyptic mircea, by what metric ?
11:00 mircea_popescu by the metric that i just looked in trilema logs and Google Chrome 2,252,411 hits 41.1 % Firefox 1,986,192 hits 36.3 %
11:00 mats http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nsa-tracking-program-20150523-story.html
11:01 * mats slaps assbot
11:01 mircea_popescu i think assbot gave up on subtitling
11:01 mats lazy.
11:02 mircea_popescu presidential candidate Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
11:02 mircea_popescu o.o junior's starting his failed bids for presidency career early ?!
11:02 mircea_popescu how many can he lose, if he lives as long as dad, 10-15ish ?
11:03 funkenstein_ lol
11:03 mircea_popescu you voted paul huh funkenstein_
11:03 funkenstein_ Dr Paul Sr. had an interesting video recently
11:03 funkenstein_ how did you know? :D
11:03 * mircea_popescu likes the guy
11:04 mircea_popescu how. i can tell, it's a demographics thing.
11:04 funkenstein_ in it he's shilling some book, but he gives some pretty strong warnings on the currency front
11:06 funkenstein_ so one reason it would be nice to have ECDSA as an asym. crypto option in PGP
11:06 mircea_popescu ecdsa is already in there.
11:06 funkenstein_ is that I could easily generate my own entropy for my keypair
11:06 mircea_popescu but no, what i want is dual rsa-cs for b-a's dream-reimplementaton of pgp
11:07 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ generating entropy is not easy, and oyu can already do that as-is.
11:07 funkenstein_ i hope it's not that easy, i've been trying for hours.
11:07 mats http://www.people-press.org/2013/06/10/majority-views-nsa-phone-tracking-as-acceptable-anti-terror-tactic
11:08 mats dunno what the big deal is, clearly americans want to be spied on
11:09 mircea_popescu mats eh, this is just a dog and pony show for young rand etc. what'll happen is the wh backe,d house vetted solution where the nsa doesn't keep the records, phone companies do, nsa just asks for what it needs.
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11:10 mircea_popescu this is more in line with the "privatize costs, centralize benefits of the police state" approach the us has been taking since the 80s
11:10 mircea_popescu ie post reagan
11:10 mats heh, i had that thought when i saw it
11:10 mats "what legal fuck fuck games are they gonna play nao"
11:10 mircea_popescu note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT.
11:11 mircea_popescu the future of the us at all levels is this thing where it's your job as the business owner to do the work of the police
11:11 mircea_popescu and it's their job to get the cookies.
11:11 mircea_popescu what teh public wants or doesn't want is really supporting cast in this trend.
11:14 mats god forbid USG actually trains people in HUMINT gathering
11:14 mircea_popescu it can't be done.
11:16 mircea_popescu https://media.8ch.net/btc/src/1432413584849-1.jpg << i was gonna wash the sink and stuff in the bathroom, but then i just took some pics with my shirt off. easier work.
11:17 funkenstein_ ;;later tell pete_dushenski stop by lambada bar on langstrasse for me if you get a chance
11:17 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:19 mircea_popescu the... wait. the LAMBADA bar ?
11:20 mircea_popescu chorando se foi!
11:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96400 @ 0.00028171 = 27.1568 BTC [-] {5}
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11:52 mats i had an interesting discussion with a project manager from general atomics
11:53 mats we discussed the future of airframes in USN and he validated my suspicion that they'll be obsolete inside of a decade (if not right now)
11:54 mats last time they had a real program was with the F-18 in the late 70s iirc
11:54 mats now they're being forced into working on the F-35 and JSF and its obv becoming a boondoggle because they simply don't have the expertise for it
11:55 mats along with the many chiefs problem
11:56 mats once USG loses a carrier or two the whole show will cascade, followed with binning of most of the sub fleet
12:01 mats should be interesting to see how USG power projection strategy develops with fielding of the S/VTOL F-35s and rail gun
12:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4749 @ 0.00027553 = 1.3085 BTC [-] {3}
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12:26 mats http://aviationweek.com/blog/pilot-reaction-flying-f-35b
12:27 mats "Indeed, the problem with all of this is that the F-35 is not bringing much to the picture which could not have been installed via upgrades in the older platforms, and thus the very length of generational separation from pilot access to these 'downloadable apps' equivalents to a civilian iPad is distorting pilot perception of improvement when we -could- have
12:27 mats had alternatives like Falcon Eye (far more reliable head steered FLIR) since the 1990s."
12:28 mats http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-05-2015#1140641 << not sure where you heard this, but i don't think this is true. more likely VTOL just consumes a ton of fuel, which makes it impractical rather than impossible
12:28 assbot Logged on 20-05-2015 19:30:08; jurov: i heard f35 cannot transition from hover to forward movement
12:33 menahem !up pete_dushenski
12:33 pete_dushenski it's.... alive!
12:33 pete_dushenski thx menahem
12:34 pete_dushenski ;;later tell funkenstein_ will try on the way back through next week :)
12:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:35 pete_dushenski ;;later tell mircea_popescu i agree on the header. i felt like a change but it was kinda a weird/unflattering choice. new one is up, fresh from zurich !
12:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
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12:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00029561 = 2.6309 BTC [+]
12:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00030047 = 7.692 BTC [+]
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13:30 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: o.o junior's starting his failed bids for presidency career early ?! << Baby Paul is actually kind of one of the frontrunners. Also less cool than his father for sure.
13:31 jurov mats: f35 will be afaik STOVL anyway (need short runway to take off), vertical takeoff used only to very short distances
13:35 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what, srsly ?
13:35 mircea_popescu dude it'll be so sad if the v2.0 which sucks actually gets the title.
13:36 mircea_popescu <mats> last time they had a real program was with the F-18 in the late 70s iirc << word.
13:44 trinque mircea_popescu: rand is "not an isolationist" in his words, supports a war against ISIS
13:45 mircea_popescu how does he plan to win a war of the omlette against the fork for the side of the omlette ?
13:45 trinque hahaha
13:46 mircea_popescu (yes i get it, the aggregate mass of eggs the fork drives down over its lifetime far exceeds the mass of the fork in question. so ?)
13:46 trinque his plan seems to be, take his fathers positions and dilute them all
13:46 trinque "yes but..." << see, I'm the reasonable Paul
13:46 mircea_popescu the only winning plan would be to make it mandatory for any woman that ever wrote or aspired to writing for any "social justice" outlet to spend the time she's got left until 30 as a harem slave in the arab world.
13:46 mircea_popescu that'd win it.
13:59 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: with my current availability even php's not an option, js is the only stopgap that'd word
13:59 ben_vulpes and it's not pillar-sittin, it's pure time.
13:59 mircea_popescu aok
14:00 ben_vulpes i have a spike of a pgptron comment engine but it's nothing serviceable for use
14:01 ben_vulpes anyways, what were you thinking?
14:02 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what, srsly ? << Yeah, also apparently really popular among the colored folks
14:03 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes wasn't anything too riveting, apparently, as now i dun recall. BingoBoingo black people are what, 10% ?
14:04 BingoBoingo somewhere between 10% and 20%
14:05 mircea_popescu http://www.jottings.ca/john/defence.html almost interesting guy
14:06 mircea_popescu ended up with him because discussion of no roses for miss blemish.
14:07 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> [15:09] note that after the (recent) waco massacre, the criminals (waco police) blamed the... OWNER OF THE PIZZA JOINT. << aha i didn't follow this one. link?
14:08 mircea_popescu !s patel
14:08 assbot 4 results for 'patel' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=patel
14:08 mircea_popescu 2nd from top
14:09 ben_vulpes lulzy
14:19 mircea_popescu that awkward moment when some privacy minded chick comments on trilema to protest her privacyrights and then her email turns up in http://arbp.net/email_nonumbers.txt
14:20 mircea_popescu which... what the fuck is that even.
14:26 mircea_popescu http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/arbtnet/internet/arbpnet-scam-las-vegas-nevada-Internet-1195119
14:27 mircea_popescu apparently it's the spamlist of some internet marketeer or other. oops.
14:28 mircea_popescu (same Xlhost.com as in the arbt thing discussed there)
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14:44 kakobrekla bitbet still has faulty blackjack http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitbetus/internet/bitbetus-Is-something-you-should-really-AVOID-1155798
14:45 mod6 wtf
14:46 mircea_popescu totally.
14:48 ben_vulpes > bitbeetus
14:52 decimation mircea_popescu: not only that but the franchise owners 'disowned' the pizza joint owner
14:53 mircea_popescu well obviously.
14:54 decimation also lulzy http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/may/03/owning-trailer-parks-mobile-home-university-investment
14:55 decimation "Then comes a second, more unexpected warning: ?Now, guys, I?ve got to tell you this park, I believe, is a sex-offender park. Everyone in here is a sex offender. I could be wrong, we?re going to find out, but I think that?s the deal on this one. So stay together as a herd.?"
14:57 decimation ^ result of usg policy, housing sex offenders in a trailer park is a thing
14:57 decimation " She rents trailer pad spots for about $325 a month. The trailers are either owned by the tenant or rented from a third party. Many trailers are divided into three bedrooms, for which tenants are charged $500 a month per room."
14:58 decimation this is near orlando, which is swamp
14:58 decimation so apparently it costs $1825 per month to rent a spot to park your trailer in a florida swamp
14:58 decimation with sex offenders
14:59 ben_vulpes wat
15:01 mircea_popescu honestly, i'd much rather hang out with sex offenders than with the average florida-ite
15:12 mircea_popescu in other news, scandalised bus lady : http://38.media.tumblr.com/efa76e7475257104b1f3c32b0f54c907/tumblr_mzaoz70gGl1r00ibto2_400.gif
15:18 scoopbot_revived My my is this embarassing! http://trilema.com/2015/my-my-is-this-embarassing/
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15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107500 @ 0.00030371 = 32.6488 BTC [+] {4}
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17:14 Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: “they seem scacely worth the time” / scarcely
17:24 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-05-2015#1144277 << site reminds me of this -> https://youtu.be/QZuOKUrwoys?t=53s
17:24 assbot Logged on 23-05-2015 07:24:13; mircea_popescu: http://traackr.com/ dude all these web 2.1 bullshits, where you can't even establish wtf they're supposedly doing AT ALL.
17:27 jurov lmao mircea fell for hn's startup generator?
17:27 jurov https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9427856 << this
17:32 Adlai "Introducing the world’s first peerless software." http://tiffzhang.com/startup/?s=634711791014
17:38 jurov One of the biggest challenges we faced after we hit our early goals was how do we stay top-of-mind and keep our users engaged? Enter Complaintme. Problem solved.
17:38 Adlai http://www.launchnik.com/slaveio
17:40 Adlai ;;later tell nubbins` http://tiffzhang.com/startup/index.html?s=837141135009
17:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
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18:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114329 @ 0.00030729 = 35.1322 BTC [+] {5}
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19:23 trinque https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092 << making everyone in the US government a traitor to the United States according to its own law
19:24 trinque "Some outlets have reported the US intelligence community’s internal prediction of the rise of ISIS. Yet none have accurately acknowledged the disturbing details exposing how the West knowingly fostered a sectarian, al-Qaeda-driven rebellion in Syria."
19:27 trinque "Crucially, Iraq is labeled as an integral part of this “Shia expansion.”" << this provides context for the recent change in US-Saudi relations
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20:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56950 @ 0.00030412 = 17.3196 BTC [-] {2}
20:37 trinque were I a Saudi king I might anticipate the US govt trying to pin ISIS solely on me.
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21:35 hanbot !uo icaro_o_mirc_ain
21:35 hanbot !up icaro_o_mirc_ain
21:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92260 @ 0.00029892 = 27.5784 BTC [-] {4}
21:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46290 @ 0.00029356 = 13.5889 BTC [-]
21:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76135 @ 0.00030641 = 23.3285 BTC [+]
21:55 trinque !up felipelalli
21:55 felipelalli deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/19DWWYP.txt
21:56 deedbot- accepted: 1
21:56 felipelalli thanks for help trinque
21:56 trinque no problem; you should be able to self-up btw, not that I mind
21:56 trinque you're in assbot's L2
21:56 felipelalli trinque: thanks, I asked just as a shortcut! Just laziness to sign! :D
22:03 felipelalli trinque: it said "accepted" but why the bot didn't ask me to pay?
22:04 trinque because I pay for it currently
22:05 felipelalli Ah! Thanks so much. I'll donate to your BTC OTC address.
22:05 trinque felipelalli: you may send funds to the address from which deedbot- makes its timestamping payments if you like
22:06 trinque felipelalli: 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES
22:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00029356 = 5.0199 BTC [-]
22:18 trinque felipelalli: http://deedbot.org/deed-2015-05-25-01-55-10.txt
22:19 trinque I notice that in google chrome, the non-ascii characters get munged; however, when I download the URL with wget they appear correctly and the sig verifies
22:19 trinque so *shrug*... seems like s3 doesn't serve up a proper encoding header for that, but it doesn't harm anything
22:20 trinque eventually I'm moving the deeds to my own nginx, so that will stop being an annoyance
22:23 felipelalli trinque: it looks good all time to me.
22:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110650 @ 0.0002935 = 32.4758 BTC [-] {2}
22:28 trinque cool
22:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58060 @ 0.00029343 = 17.0365 BTC [-]
22:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83200 @ 0.00028758 = 23.9267 BTC [-]
22:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00027856 = 8.5518 BTC [-] {2}
23:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63895 @ 0.00027599 = 17.6344 BTC [-]
23:11 isaackl mircea_popescu: still here. I read you complaining about lack of affiliate rev on http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-april-2014-statement/ and did a little digging on other casino affiliate schemes (both bitcoin and fiat). Mostly they seem to pay affiliates a cut of player losses, assumption being that players eventually lose most of their buy-ins to the house (via roulette, slots, etc).
23:12 isaackl BitBet doesn’t have those kind of games and maybe that changes the economics? You have to persuade players to lay down 100 btc to net 1 btc in affiliate rev. Not easy to buy traffic which pays out 100x what you paid for it. With FB ads a typical game might net, say, $10 on average per user, and we’d be buying installs for maybe $5 and trying to optimise it to $3.
23:12 isaackl For BitBet, SEO or finding sites with underutilised ad space (as with 8chan) is probably the way to go? Both take time though. I can send your btc back if you want as tbh I have little expertise in that world. Also let me know if you think my reasoning is flawed.
23:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85805 @ 0.00027689 = 23.7585 BTC [+] {2}
23:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.0002715 = 6.6382 BTC [-] {2}
23:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 193650 @ 0.00026486 = 51.2901 BTC [-] {2}
23:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54272 @ 0.00026711 = 14.4966 BTC [+] {2}
23:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43616 @ 0.00028633 = 12.4886 BTC [+]
23:56 mircea_popescu isaackl i dunno man
23:57 mircea_popescu i don't begin to pretend like i'm a marketeer.
23:57 mircea_popescu but statistically speaking, a bitbet player breaks even. it's a fair betting thing, not a scammy betting thing like everything fiat world/\
23:57 mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard ty
23:59 mircea_popescu trinque o shit did i forget to seed it ? what's the bot's addy ?
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