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00:00 bagehot It depends on what is enforced by the people who decide what money and the economy are.
00:01 bagehot And also how those people define the terms.
00:01 bagehot That's my first pass at an answer. That's not a question I've thought about before.
00:01 mircea_popescu one interesting idea that came out here is that the people do not decide what either money or the economy are.
00:02 mircea_popescu but vice-versa : money and the economy decide what people are.
00:11 mircea_popescu !up bagehot
00:11 mircea_popescu you should prolly get in the wot.
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00:12 bagehot Thanks! First, re: one interesting idea: Can you clarify 'decide'? One sort of sociological argument I've heard is that social systems cause specific behaviors to be present in people.
00:13 bagehot Another argument I've heard is that thing like 'money' and the 'economy' exist as they are because of some constraints that are present in the natural world and so those constraints, eh, cause certain behaviors
00:14 bagehot Its definately the case that some social systems cause behaviors in practically all people, although I suspect once in a while people manage to commander the board for a bit.
00:14 mircea_popescu the latter.
00:14 mircea_popescu just like gravity causes fishes to swim and birds to fly, just so money and the economy cause black people to be poor and jews to have long noses
00:14 mircea_popescu or thereabouts.
00:17 bagehot I suspect so, although, it'd depend on the natural constraint thats being put forth
00:17 bagehot aside on the wot, is this the resource to read for wot? http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html
00:17 assbot #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkB6QM )
00:19 mircea_popescu yes, that works.
00:19 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ and http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ for more theoretical considerations.
00:19 assbot What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkBoal )
00:19 assbot GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkBoap )
00:23 bagehot Alright, I'll be back in a bit once I've got wot setup.
00:24 mircea_popescu !up Birdman
00:24 decimation '[
00:26 Birdman Hello -assets. I am looking to dump my dollars for coins and have almost no trust ratings in the WoT. Willing to use an escrow or however it can be the least risky for both parties if anyone is interested
00:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103013 @ 0.00032424 = 33.4009 BTC [-] {2}
00:35 mircea_popescu you mean physically ?
00:35 mircea_popescu Birdman ^
00:36 Birdman It'd have to be a cash in the mail thing most likely
00:36 Birdman Unless there is another way to get someone my dollars
00:36 mircea_popescu i don't think many people do that, on account of how unreliable it is.
00:37 mircea_popescu if you can use a bank, talk to sturles, he's been doing the offices of noob introducer since 2010.
00:37 mircea_popescu expect to pay a slight premium.
00:37 mircea_popescu if you can't use a bank, join a local community and do face to face.
00:38 mircea_popescu !up JoshG_
00:38 JoshG_ sup
00:38 Birdman Right, but the risk is on my end really if I send the money. Also, I am trying to do a larger volume where my irl contact is uncomfortable doing
00:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 320250 @ 0.00031795 = 101.8235 BTC [-] {7}
00:41 mircea_popescu not much.
00:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118150 @ 0.0003224 = 38.0916 BTC [+]
00:53 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/the-huge-language-issue/#comment-113048 << l0ltr0nicz
00:53 assbot The huge language issue pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cf5BIA )
00:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155800 @ 0.0003224 = 50.2299 BTC [+]
01:01 decimation asciilifeform: apparently you need a manor-house with a library
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01:01 asciilifeform i also need atomic dirigible, possibly
01:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40690 @ 0.0003224 = 13.1185 BTC [+]
01:08 mircea_popescu !up bagehot
01:09 mircea_popescu there's no relation between assbot and gribble really.
01:09 mircea_popescu http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot < see there.
01:09 assbot irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqStij )
01:12 bagehot I dig the link to the BRK letters at http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/finance. His letters are really a sharp resource on finance.
01:12 assbot finance [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1G1rRDp )
01:13 bagehot But, how do I prevent getting muted by assbot? I figured I registered a public key with gribble to register with the wot and then it was a matter of ;;eauth and messaging !up to assbot
01:14 decimation bagehot: no need for ;;eauth to gribble, !up to assbot is sufficient
01:14 bagehot Er, when I send !up to assbot I get 'assbot: bagehot is not registered in WoT.' back
01:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128259 @ 0.0003432 = 44.0185 BTC [+] {2}
01:15 bagehot How do I fix that? I'm mistaken but thats where I thought (but no longer do) gribble fit in.
01:15 decimation did you do !register to assbot?
01:16 decimation !rated bagehot
01:16 assbot bagehot is not registered in WoT.
01:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81491 @ 0.00034611 = 28.2049 BTC [+] {3}
01:17 bagehot Sorry, this is probably all RTFM issues, but is it !register <long pgp id>
01:17 decimation yeah
01:18 mircea_popescu !gettrust bagehot
01:18 assbot bagehot is not registered in WoT.
01:24 bagehot For the <full_gpg_keyid> I'm using the fifth column I get from the command gpg --list-keys --with-colon, 60E5BD872B2A6031. I'm getting back 'assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.'
01:25 decimation bagehot: did you upload it to a keyserver?
01:25 bagehot Yeah, https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=bagehot&op=index
01:25 assbot Search results for 'bagehot' ... ( http://bit.ly/1G1uEws )
01:26 mircea_popescu use the whole thing
01:26 mircea_popescu 40 chars.
01:28 decimation you might want to actually have a valid email too
01:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124000 @ 0.00033537 = 41.5859 BTC [-] {2}
01:35 bagehot Where is the 40 character output?
01:39 decimation gpg --fingerprint <key>
01:53 mircea_popescu !gettrust bagehot
01:53 assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bagehot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/bagehot | http://w.b-a.link/user/bagehot
01:53 mircea_popescu !rate bagehot New blood
01:53 assbot Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
01:53 mircea_popescu !rate bagehot New 1 blood
01:53 assbot Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
01:53 mircea_popescu !rate bagehot 1 New blood
01:53 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/de6dcd8050d71dd7
01:53 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.bagehot.1:db856e96a87cbb812489644043c3577315f61997069f2c79c3c0d4cd29f66b59
01:53 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for bagehot with note: New blood
01:53 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bagehot now you can self-voice, pm assbot !up
01:53 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75250 @ 0.00034861 = 26.2329 BTC [+] {2}
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02:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123751 @ 0.0003403 = 42.1125 BTC [-] {2}
02:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54550 @ 0.0003341 = 18.2252 BTC [-]
02:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 217869 @ 0.00034853 = 75.9339 BTC [+] {4}
02:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.0003565 = 13.8857 BTC [+]
02:54 ben_vulpes aha
02:54 ben_vulpes 600 lines of log
02:54 ben_vulpes GO
02:58 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> what's wrong is the idea that dependents can push one around in one's own castle. << myup.
02:58 ben_vulpes but on the other hand "you're a parent now - you must sacrifice your whole life for the new life"
02:59 mircea_popescu orly.
03:00 ben_vulpes that's your line.
03:00 mircea_popescu myeah.
03:01 mircea_popescu !up p15
03:02 ben_vulpes that set of assertions has me in knots.
03:03 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> said.... everyone ever ? << nah. babes in haus is totally the way to go.
03:03 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2015#1051634 << stealth fork?
03:03 assbot Logged on 13-03-2015 12:53:40; cazalla: and i am stuck using fucking electrum since then because for some reason, since bitcoin-qt 0.10.0 came out, my old 0.8.3, 0.8.6 throws errors and i can't fully sync and even lame attempt to try 0.10.0 falls flat.. i think maybe memory is fucked though unrelated, memtest86 throws a bunch of errors
03:03 mircea_popescu nah, chain's still ok on the older clients.
03:03 mircea_popescu may be some peculiar 8 branch shit
03:04 ben_vulpes this is still worth enumerating.
03:04 ben_vulpes cazalla: what's the full story here?
03:04 ben_vulpes your 0.8.6 all of a sudden refuses to sync further?
03:04 ben_vulpes new 0.8.6 chains blow up during initial sync?
03:05 ben_vulpes wouldn't it be handy to have a thing that could watch the output of n different 'bitcoin's running in real time?
03:07 ben_vulpes saifedean: it's the Alps on the Riviera << oh god that sounds amazong
03:08 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it would, yes.
03:08 mircea_popescu the alps actually are right across from the riviera.
03:10 ben_vulpes <mod6> ben_vulpes: here's v0091 of the patching script: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000066.html << once we have a source tree in the wild and some sort of provenance chain for it we can start talking about dvcs over email
03:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AllAyI )
03:11 ben_vulpes i'm well aware that this is how Things Are Doneā„¢
03:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform do you know the "first shave, then shoot" one ?
03:15 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-03-2015#1051719 << that it may be << oh come now the israel thing is totally orthogonal to the 'everyone else is cattle' attitude
03:15 assbot Logged on 13-03-2015 13:15:53; gabriel_laddel: the political position of "they're cattle, we're not" is totally A OK.
03:16 mircea_popescu wait, wut ?
03:16 ben_vulpes umpteen fucking centuries of having the bottom 90% snipped off of your ethnic group is much more pertinent
03:17 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: 'international cattle demarcation line' does not refer to israel?
03:17 mircea_popescu nope.
03:17 ben_vulpes oh, well. then what?
03:18 mircea_popescu just an arbitrary limit
03:18 ben_vulpes is this a real thing?
03:19 cazalla ben_vulpes, i reinstall nigubuntu a few days after 0.10 came out, i forgot to backup blocks so i had to dl it all again, but not able to do so despite blowing about 100gb on trying
03:20 ben_vulpes oh god
03:20 ben_vulpes never update your bitcoin device
03:20 ben_vulpes state is von neumann peeking through the curtain
03:20 ben_vulpes his baleful glare burning into your soul
03:20 cazalla ya, i know, but i was using 0.8.3 and i have at times in the past thought fuck it, i'll just download the blockchain after a format
03:20 ben_vulpes attempt to mutate the state and you tempt him
03:21 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no dude, iut's not a real thing. the idea was that somehow there's a cutoff : up to moment t, imigrants are a ok. at t+1 they're now cattle. well, how do you choose t ?
03:21 ben_vulpes aha
03:22 mircea_popescu cazalla that was not such a smart move.
03:22 mircea_popescu old chains are valuable like old wine is valuable.
03:22 ben_vulpes the glib retort is "we're not immigrants, we're jooz!"
03:22 cazalla but i even tried 0.10 out of pure frustration and it wouldn't work either.. i actually think it might be related to ram in this pc, memtest86 reports bunch of errors
03:22 ben_vulpes like gypsies, but according to the people in question, 'smarter'
03:23 ben_vulpes if i might be so bold i bear an excellent subset of excellent american genes
03:23 ben_vulpes french mercs
03:23 cazalla anyway, i have a pogo otw, we'll see what comes of that next week
03:23 ben_vulpes jews who escaped
03:24 mircea_popescu i dun think genes are what you think they are.
03:24 ben_vulpes and gypsies (so family legend goes) who assimilated into the local joomunity.
03:24 ben_vulpes lineage, then.
03:25 ben_vulpes who knows what got snipped and sewn in place during recombination.
03:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80800 @ 0.00035969 = 29.063 BTC [+] {2}
03:26 mircea_popescu o wait, you're a jew too ?
03:26 mircea_popescu !b 1
03:26 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3FF200N.txt )
03:26 mircea_popescu sorry, couldn't resist.
03:26 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: p-p-plz no bully
03:28 cazalla http://i.imgur.com/akdKhXt.jpg <<< you can use a daikon raddish as a heatsink?
03:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmhF3k )
03:29 ben_vulpes <trinque> heh we're fucking children << trinque confirmed for gulagdestiny
03:29 mircea_popescu yes, it's heat relish.
03:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25440 @ 0.00035921 = 9.1383 BTC [-]
03:39 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> presently the only package of -source- i've succeeded in building into a kernel that can be used on pogo - was netbsd. << it's over. eat a strategic banana, let them have the abandoned fortresses, move to the hills and build batteries of cheapish ground and air control devices to hold no mans land, lick wounds, regroup.
03:40 ben_vulpes dispense with dream of 'compute'. c'est la guerre.
03:41 ben_vulpes take comfort that bitcoin exists.
03:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88900 @ 0.00035865 = 31.884 BTC [-]
03:48 ben_vulpes decimation, mircea_popescu: ksr, "We could be intruding on alien life." << isn't colonialism about coopting local structure if not eradicating them entirely?
03:49 mircea_popescu colonialism is about coopting the locals on its own terms only.
03:49 mircea_popescu that's the point of colonialism : much like b-a, you may only join it nude.
03:49 ben_vulpes "do as i say, or i slay."
03:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 9477 @ 0.00021105 = 2.0001 BTC [-]
03:50 mircea_popescu quite.
03:50 mircea_popescu that's the important thing about colonialism : it is a plain statement of the fundamental worthlessness of the locals. what it says is that their culture is not worth reading.
03:51 mircea_popescu in many cases, this attitude is actually correct
03:51 mircea_popescu which is why i don't particularly share the worries of most intellectuals abnout the various books burned during history.
03:51 mircea_popescu if the people that wrote them weren't idiots, the books wouldn't have been burned.
03:52 mircea_popescu im sure if someone burned down reddit loads of future intellectuals will be all "o noes, the treasures lost". because they don't exactly know.
03:52 mircea_popescu and so for them erring that way is sensible. but in actual fact... good god, the world is better off.
03:54 ben_vulpes <bagehot> [02:58] the keys used to keep bitcoins a store of value are. << wat
03:54 mircea_popescu (same idea re: "state preserving old buildings" put forth in http://trilema.com/2009/el-ingenioso-hidalgo-don-quijote-de-la-mancha-si-conul-andrei-pippidi/ drove teh romanaian nuts. but the point stands : why the fuck would the public treasury spend money to maintain some family houses of meanwhile dead families ? once the snail's no longer in the shell, the shell has no further meaning or import.)
03:54 assbot El ingenioso hidalgo Don Quijote de la Mancha si conul Andrei Pippidi. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmjRIc )
03:56 ben_vulpes ;;later tell bagehot lmk if you want a hand with setting up networks off of the mainchain
03:56 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:57 ben_vulpes ;;later tell bagehot "normative statement" << actually now i'm not so sure i want to be around you at all even
03:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:58 mircea_popescu lol the guy is trying, give him six months.
03:58 ben_vulpes <bagehot> [04:12] Another argument I've heard is that thing like 'money' and the 'economy' exist as they are because of some constraints that are present in the natural world and so those constraints, eh, cause certain behaviors << it's called thermodynamics
04:02 ben_vulpes new noobs, gorgeous weather, summer runup must be impending.
04:03 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
04:03 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 284.5, Best ask: 284.6, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 284.62, 24 hour volume: 37387.61151736, 24 hour low: 281.36, 24 hour high: 293.22, 24 hour vwap: None
04:03 mircea_popescu looks like it.
04:03 ben_vulpes 10k by nov?
04:03 ben_vulpes who's the fractional reserve this time?
04:03 mircea_popescu well considering all the bezzle poured in, it should be d.cbse
04:04 ben_vulpes gemini being the replacement-in-the-wings
04:04 ben_vulpes fiat hedge against fiat failure
04:05 ben_vulpes <cazalla> ben_vulpes, i reinstall nigubuntu a few days after 0.10 came out, i forgot to backup blocks so i had to dl it all again, but not able to do so despite blowing about 100gb on trying << dude i need more than this
04:05 ben_vulpes like ~/.bitcoin/debug.log files from block where it wedges
04:05 ben_vulpes block number
04:06 ben_vulpes general symptoms of shitgnomery
04:06 mircea_popescu he's new. give him six months.
04:06 ben_vulpes and then THEN you need to point the thing at a known-good node and see if you get the same results.
04:06 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: cazalla? new?
04:07 mircea_popescu at computering
04:08 cazalla ben_vulpes, i really only got off windows like.. 7-8 months ago
04:08 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-portrait-of-young-lenin-as-an-artist-in-his-youth/
04:09 ben_vulpes well you have places to hunt now don't you? and a foundation to whom to report shitgnomery in the wild?
04:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91228 @ 0.00035522 = 32.406 BTC [-]
04:12 ben_vulpes anyways cazalla your mission should you choose to accept it is to run down some useful debug information from a 0.8.6 that refuses to sync. i suggest booting your bitcoind with the -debug flag.
04:13 mircea_popescu lol @ should you choose to accept it device.
04:13 mircea_popescu which game was this ? doom ?
04:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102950 @ 0.00035483 = 36.5297 BTC [-] {2}
04:14 cazalla ben_vulpes, here, not sure if any help http://dpaste.com/3EKMNTB.txt
04:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmlBkN )
04:14 cazalla i think this was from 0.8.6 or maybe 0.8.3 install, can't remember
04:14 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/visual-culture-test-the-naked-woman/#comment-90764 << ahaha check it out how one patrick mcfarland made a btc in 2012
04:14 assbot Visual Culture Test - The Naked Woman pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmlC8m )
04:14 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: mission impossible!
04:15 ben_vulpes as a side note, it's lovely to see pastebin die the good death.
04:15 mircea_popescu oh ?
04:16 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: the movie...
04:16 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/4462e776fa649fb2001fd50392084f46/tumblr_my1gxe6Ubl1s0yaxoo1_1280.jpg << check out the maids outfit that bride picked!
04:16 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUQmHV )
04:16 mircea_popescu i mean it's traditionally a device to humiliate the girls, but the degree!
04:16 ben_vulpes good god they're all like 35
04:17 mircea_popescu well yes ?
04:17 cazalla mircea_popescu, ya know what i'm yet to figure out about such pics, under what circumstances do people get naked like this at a wedding?
04:17 cazalla european thing or what
04:17 mircea_popescu yes.
04:18 ben_vulpes ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 234015 << so your remote node is misbehaving
04:18 mircea_popescu here, one more http://36.media.tumblr.com/8d98884538d636d0166f2ed798ed21ea/tumblr_mu83nerhLP1sz40t4o1_500.jpg
04:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUQAPk )
04:19 ben_vulpes although hard to tell if its getting blocks it already has or just 'heights' it already has
04:19 ben_vulpes ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 233764 00000000000000f9386cebe790b230739587e8d554d94579e8e569b73107c472
04:19 ben_vulpes << considering running 'getblockhash 233764' and seeing if it returns the same hash
04:20 ben_vulpes although is that the hash of the existing block or the incoming block and are they even the same?
04:20 mircea_popescu 00000000000000f9386cebe790b230739587e8d554d94579e8e569b73107c472
04:20 * ben_vulpes is not opening up cpp tonight, will run from flawed meatram
04:20 mircea_popescu ayup
04:20 ben_vulpes /s/considering/consider
04:20 ben_vulpes hm wait wrong construction
04:21 mircea_popescu srsly.
04:21 ben_vulpes cazalla: please run 'getblockhash 233764' and report
04:21 ben_vulpes if you have 0.8.6 available for inquiry.
04:22 ben_vulpes 67.70.13.210 << in 10* seeds?
04:22 ben_vulpes and to tag this with the 'block download' thread: nodes that misbehave like this must be booted from the dl candidate list.
04:23 ben_vulpes pronto.
04:23 mircea_popescu dude, we went over this. the list is strictly made out of wot nodes. nothing else.
04:23 mircea_popescu stop filtering badness.
04:24 cazalla ben_vulpes, can't at this time, chain and client i have half done here atm is 0.10.0 from when i got frustrated and decided to see if this work, it didn't get to that blockheight
04:24 ben_vulpes not the hardcoded list, but the list of candidates constructed at/during runtime from which a node may consider downloading blocks.
04:24 cazalla i actually have older chain here on external hdd so im copying that over, it isn't a full one either though, i believe it is from other day when trying 0.8.6 so will try soon
04:25 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ideally it'd have a performance based model, where it sorts the connections according to a "value", periodically kicking the bottom one and taking a new one in
04:26 mircea_popescu just assign costs to cpu/bw usage, and price to information obtained, and there you go
04:26 cazalla anyway, point i was trying to make last night was drunk, bad decision or not, i have done this many times over past year and it would always get a full chain after a day, but can't since 0.10.0 came out
04:26 ben_vulpes this is the obvious solution, yes.
04:26 ben_vulpes well codified, thank you mircea_popescu.
04:26 * mircea_popescu waives any merit.
04:26 cazalla not that i was trying to use 0.10.0, that was just a last resort past few days
04:27 ben_vulpes cazalla: this needs proving and reproduction.
04:27 ben_vulpes nailgun for the shitgnomes.
04:28 ben_vulpes eg does it wedge reproducibly, etc.
04:28 ben_vulpes jesus fuck the qa.
04:29 ben_vulpes 00000000000001909813d3f692378c41ffa9c21e444ebac220a33137d94948c5 << point at which pasted log kicks into "orphan frenzy"
04:30 ben_vulpes nonstd transaction?
04:30 cazalla what's AddToWallet, should i snip that from log before putting on dpaste?
04:30 ben_vulpes heh probs.
04:31 ben_vulpes twould be real funny if there were privkeys in that log statement.
04:31 cazalla nah i checked
04:31 ben_vulpes and you're certain you know the contents of that logline?
04:31 ben_vulpes OMIT any potentially sensitive data there.
04:31 ben_vulpes try to preserve charcount.
04:32 cazalla ben_vulpes, this is from trying to -reindex with 0.8.6 http://dpaste.com/3E6139P.txt
04:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUSf7n )
04:33 mircea_popescu 2015-03-14 08:29:22 LevelDB read failure: Corruption: block checksum mismatch
04:33 mircea_popescu did you shutdown your pc uncleanly ? such as for instance power fsailure ?
04:33 cazalla nope, client crashes
04:34 mircea_popescu before that.
04:34 cazalla ben_vulpes, confident nothing in there, but even if there was, i have nothing more than bitcents on machine connected to internet
04:34 cazalla no
04:35 ben_vulpes was that a fresh sync or using an old blockchain?
04:35 cazalla it's about 8gb of blocks which i downloaded using 0.8.6 the other day
04:35 ben_vulpes 132587 << fresh sync i'm betting
04:36 cazalla so i copied em over into blocks dir here now and ran 0.8.6
04:36 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831003.0 << look, a scamcoin that's not totally retarded from the get-go.
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04:36 assbot [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein, Logarithmic Release, X9_62_prime256v1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUSwas )
04:36 ben_vulpes hm.
04:36 cazalla over the past few days i've tried a fresh install with 0.8.3, 0.8.6 and 0.10.0 and all have problems, and yes fresh as in fresh as i wiped hdd each time
04:38 ben_vulpes Are you going to argue with Bruce Schneier? I didn't think so. << amazing pedigree
04:38 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
04:38 mircea_popescu that idiocy aside, using skein's not necessarily a bad choice
04:38 mircea_popescu this is what i meant : while the thing's not necessarily useful, at least it's trying.
04:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29867 @ 0.00035597 = 10.6318 BTC [+]
04:40 ben_vulpes cazalla: ok well are you game for some foundation support?
04:40 ben_vulpes please don't make me build and test more bitcoinds
04:40 cazalla well that's why i have a pogo otw
04:40 ben_vulpes aws bill was insane for last three months
04:41 cazalla i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back
04:41 ben_vulpes well i have non pogo tasks for you
04:41 mircea_popescu cazalla that may have corrupted a db then
04:42 cazalla mircea_popescu even on fresh o/s with new install of bitcoin-qt?
04:42 ben_vulpes i will not accept 'may have'.
04:42 mircea_popescu cazalla if memory corrupts then yes, on anything.
04:42 cazalla i'll go buy a cheap stick of ram tmw and try again
04:43 cazalla ben_vulpes, unfortunately, i need a lot of hand holding as i can only get so far myself so i would likely cause you more trouble than be of help
04:43 ben_vulpes nope.
04:43 ben_vulpes "teach a man to fish".
04:43 ben_vulpes when i'm done with you you'll be downright valuable.
04:44 mircea_popescu no homo ?
04:44 cazalla well, what would you need me to do and is it bandwidth intensive?
04:44 ben_vulpes unlike some people i'm willing to train male slaves.
04:44 cazalla lol
04:44 ben_vulpes cazalla: you'll not be on the hook for b/w.
04:45 ben_vulpes that'll have to come from my heirs legacy.
04:45 cazalla no, i mean my use of it with home internet connection
04:45 ben_vulpes heirs'.
04:45 cazalla as long as it doesn't blow it to over say 100gb, i can help, i have some older machines here too if of any use
04:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168500 @ 0.00035151 = 59.2294 BTC [-] {3}
04:46 ben_vulpes if you find that this is *not* a ram issue, i'll provide you ssh access to a thing on which you can run a bitcoind.
04:47 cazalla i should be able to let you know whether it is or not by this time tmw
04:48 ben_vulpes anyone who has other ideas re: muntzing cazalla's system please chime in
04:48 ben_vulpes cazalla:
04:48 ben_vulpes lady v returns from travels tomorrow noon pst, so i'll likely be unavailable though the pm.
04:48 cazalla i'll leave you a note if you're not around anyway
04:48 ben_vulpes tbf i'm more likely to get fucked into quiescence than vice versa
04:50 ben_vulpes dude what the shit
04:50 ben_vulpes i just got a 400 redirect
04:50 ben_vulpes what is *wrong* with people
04:51 ben_vulpes oh actually lolariously
04:51 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/03/blythe-masters-to-head-wall-street-invasion/#comment-13670 << i lawled.
04:51 assbot Blythe Masters To Head Wall Street Invasion | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BgHXEI )
04:51 ben_vulpes trinque was bitching earlier today about getting a 418 TEAPOT from a production point of sale system
04:53 mircea_popescu "We donĀ’t think of bitcoin as being [...] an alternative currency [...]. We think of it as a medium for exchange"
04:53 mircea_popescu top kek in klass.
04:54 ben_vulpes get kesselman in here, eh?
04:57 mircea_popescu ya srsly.
04:57 mircea_popescu i think she was, actually.
04:58 ben_vulpes oh goodness madonna on stern
04:58 mircea_popescu mebbe just trilema http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-me-being-completely-spaced-out/#comment-100653
04:58 assbot This is me being completely spaced out pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUU44q )
04:58 ben_vulpes http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2015/03/madonna-on-howard-stern-3-11-15/
04:58 assbot Madonna on Howard Stern 3.11.15 | The Big Picture ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUU6sS )
04:58 mircea_popescu lol i remember when she was teaching leterman wardrobe terms
04:59 ben_vulpes "i will do as told." < ha this one
04:59 mircea_popescu "Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . .
04:59 mircea_popescu . you are, after all, anonymous."
04:59 mircea_popescu ahahah
05:00 mircea_popescu holtzy is kinda funny.
05:00 ben_vulpes i've been waiting for you to come around
05:00 mircea_popescu wait, i thought her fucking tupac was public knowledge.
05:02 ben_vulpes http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/03/wolf-richter-us-oil-bust-just-got-worse.html << pretty amazing how linear the 'fraking boom' looks in retrospect
05:02 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
05:02 assbot Wolf Richter: The US Oil Bust Just Got Worse | naked capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUUnw3 )
05:03 mircea_popescu mhm
05:04 ben_vulpes i still want to get that madonna book
05:04 mircea_popescu so get it ?
05:04 mircea_popescu you live in like, a city, right ?
05:04 ben_vulpes i just burnt my discretionary income on fundation expenses.
05:04 mircea_popescu http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/US-rig-count_1988_2015-03-13oil-bust.png << saudi sanctions, lolz.
05:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BgJURj )
05:05 mircea_popescu lol. don't you ppl have some moneyz ?
05:06 ben_vulpes pretty much all req'd to hedge against famine months
05:06 ben_vulpes what's the mpex phrase?
05:07 mircea_popescu "eat the woman, save the cow" ?
05:07 ben_vulpes "solemnly promise to not introduce personal expenses" etc etc
05:09 mircea_popescu you're confusing me. weren't these servers ?
05:09 ben_vulpes sure, yeah.
05:09 mircea_popescu anyway, discussion continued tomorrow, im off.
05:10 ben_vulpes humbung!
05:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00035843 = 10.95 BTC [+] {2}
05:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97017 @ 0.00035038 = 33.9928 BTC [-]
05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55833 @ 0.00033434 = 18.6672 BTC [-]
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05:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46750 @ 0.0003343 = 15.6285 BTC [-] {2}
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06:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17852 @ 0.0003341 = 5.9644 BTC [-]
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42100 @ 0.00033279 = 14.0105 BTC [-]
06:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59400 @ 0.00033311 = 19.7867 BTC [+] {2}
06:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147550 @ 0.00033149 = 48.9113 BTC [-] {2}
06:48 thestringpuller !t m s.qntr
06:48 assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 (9477 shares, 2.00 BTC), 7D: 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 / 0.00021105 (9477 shares, 2.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00021105 / 0.00027001 / 0.000301 (59040 shares, 15.94 BTC)
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07:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120900 @ 0.00033548 = 40.5595 BTC [+]
07:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52349 @ 0.00035001 = 18.3227 BTC [+] {3}
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07:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 194193 @ 0.00034485 = 66.9675 BTC [-] {2}
07:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47707 @ 0.00035916 = 17.1344 BTC [+] {2}
08:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 261724 @ 0.00033549 = 87.8058 BTC [-] {2}
08:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51652 @ 0.00032977 = 17.0333 BTC [-] {2}
08:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00035929 = 2.7845 BTC [+]
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08:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62500 @ 0.00033018 = 20.6363 BTC [-]
08:58 mircea_popescu so i get a piece of spam, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/spam.png and i'm curious, where did the script get that sentence ?
08:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GDM7uX )
08:58 mircea_popescu google responds with http://www.reddit.com/r/careerguidance/comments/2a27w2/my_wife_has_a_useless_degree_and_a_history_of/
08:58 assbot My wife has a useless degree and a history of mall jobs. Any advice to de-rutify her? : careerguidance ... ( http://bit.ly/1GDMbuD )
08:59 mircea_popescu leaving aside the "reddit principally exists as source of pre-spun spam text, because the cult of bayesianism really does work", jesus christ check out that life history.
09:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 180118 @ 0.00033836 = 60.9447 BTC [+]
09:07 mircea_popescu the kicker, of course, being "She seems to think that professional careers require flawless writing ability, which I don't feel is the case."
09:13 mircea_popescu !up ug_
09:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68800 @ 0.00036008 = 24.7735 BTC [+] {2}
09:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29332 @ 0.00035726 = 10.4792 BTC [-]
09:34 mircea_popescu http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3141310154691952
09:34 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1BhmxqZ )
09:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ^ chgeck it out, the internet breaks a little more.
09:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00033852 = 5.7379 BTC [-]
09:53 kakobrekla http://i.imgur.com/SefmLKf.gif
09:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BhpMP9 )
09:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67640 @ 0.00033819 = 22.8752 BTC [-]
09:54 mats lol
09:54 mircea_popescu ahahaha
09:54 mircea_popescu who is this ?
09:54 kakobrekla dunno
09:59 mircea_popescu interesting : he tries to fight obscurity, going to extreme lengths to put a spotlight on himself
09:59 mircea_popescu and yet... nobody knows who he is.
10:00 mircea_popescu i vote this guy 'most likely to modern man'.
10:13 mircea_popescu !up funkenstein_
10:14 funkenstein_ thanks
10:17 funkenstein_ can i just say this is the first time i've been on television?
10:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00033018 = 6.2074 BTC [-]
10:19 funkenstein_ based on how long it's taken me to find my way over here I am going to be a slow learner so thanks in advance for your patience
10:21 kakobrekla welcome to the show.
10:29 mircea_popescu lol
10:29 mircea_popescu read the logs, it's all you need.
10:32 mircea_popescu incidentally, http://www.ratbehavior.org/laundry.htm
10:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MAoreL )
10:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83000 @ 0.00033371 = 27.6979 BTC [+]
10:40 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ so what abvout this woodcoin thing ?
10:43 scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/look-what-the-spam-dragged-in/
10:44 mircea_popescu !up funkenstein_
10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00033371 = 10.1114 BTC [+]
11:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95850 @ 0.00033854 = 32.4491 BTC [+] {3}
11:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00033372 = 18.7884 BTC [-] {2}
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11:32 mircea_popescu !up funkenstein_
11:32 mircea_popescu you prolly want to get in the wot.
11:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00034015 = 11.8712 BTC [+]
11:34 funkenstein_ confirmed
11:39 funkenstein_ you can totally trust me. i can take a picture of myself licking a hammer.
11:43 mircea_popescu see yest's discussion. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2015#1052591
11:43 assbot Logged on 14-03-2015 04:11:17; mircea_popescu: you should prolly get in the wot.
11:43 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2015#1052627 << no but wouldn't that kick ass ?
11:43 assbot Logged on 14-03-2015 05:01:21; decimation: asciilifeform: apparently you need a manor-house with a library
11:45 funkenstein_ set up but no rating
11:48 funkenstein_ !gettrust funkenstein
11:48 assbot funkenstein_ and funkenstein are not registered in WoT.
11:49 funkenstein_ ;;gettrust funkenstein
11:49 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask funkenstein!518d5cd7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.141.92.215. Trust relationship from user funkenstein to user funkenstein: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=funkenstein&dest=funkenstein | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=funkenstein | Rated since: never
11:53 funkenstein_ !gpg eauth funkenstein
11:55 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ follow the bit to get into assbot's.
12:01 mircea_popescu "We also migrated to the hosted platform as a service provided by Automattic on vip.wordpress.com. This enabled all of our costs and resources to be focused on growth as they didnĀ’t have to worry about caching, servers or anything that didnĀ’t improve experience for our readers or editorial users. "
12:01 mircea_popescu o.O
12:01 mircea_popescu this is perhaps one of the most idiotic bits of salescopy i've seen in recent memory : https://vip.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/10-growth-hacks-that-helped-metro-co-uk-achieve-27-million-monthly-visitors/
12:01 assbot 10 Growth Hacks That Helped Metro.Co.Uk Achieve 27 Million Monthly Visitors ā€“ WordPress.com VIP ... ( http://bit.ly/1NVxJUd )
12:02 mircea_popescu "The amazing thing about the platform is that it is a flat fee. This means that although our traffic has grown 350% year on year our costs have not changed. The depth of their out of the box features plus ecosystem of plugins ensured that we didĀ’t have to worry about commodity features such as SEO, site maps and editorial workflows as someone else had built and open sourced an approach."
12:02 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:02 mircea_popescu exactly.
12:03 mircea_popescu meanwhile, the thing's just been buying those spammy "related stories from across the net" slots. which... whatever. TRAFIC!
12:04 mircea_popescu you could have bought that and driven it to a ytmnd for all the good they do anyone.
12:04 mircea_popescu but gotta appreciate the "shared hosting for idiots thinking themselves corporate" thing. myths never die! INFINITE BANDWIDTH!!1
12:07 mircea_popescu "A key growth hack we developed was the ability to show different headlines for social and search so we didnĀ’t impact our search traffic."
12:07 mircea_popescu lawls.
12:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75600 @ 0.00033004 = 24.951 BTC [-] {2}
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00033096 = 13.9996 BTC [+]
12:18 kakobrekla its called cloud now btw.
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12:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92894 @ 0.00032974 = 30.6309 BTC [-]
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12:50 danielpbarron height=276555 vs height=208878
12:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141100 @ 0.00032785 = 46.2596 BTC [-] {4}
12:53 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972877.0
12:53 assbot GREAT IDEA FOR SALE ... ( http://bit.ly/1NVD3Hd )
13:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62488 @ 0.00033096 = 20.681 BTC [+]
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13:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74450 @ 0.00032636 = 24.2975 BTC [-]
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13:40 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i must confess that i didn't grok the analogy with the strategic banana, retreat from the fortress, etc.
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13:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: internet breaks >> http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3141310154691952@naggum.no.html << you beheaded the link
13:59 assbot Re: Is LISP dying? - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1AomqdU )
14:06 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTkefJHfC0&t=199
14:06 assbot The SECOND Official Ultra-Ever Dry Video - Superhydrophobic coating - Repels almost any liquid! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1x4PgEy )
14:09 ben_vulpes they own linux.
14:09 ben_vulpes the strategic banana is a red herring.
14:09 asciilifeform wat
14:09 asciilifeform [insert correct lolcat]
14:10 ben_vulpes a non-sequiter.
14:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126000 @ 0.0003274 = 41.2524 BTC [+]
14:18 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: got your tickets ?
14:19 * asciilifeform was reading log, and noticed that this came up and somehow missed
14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99400 @ 0.00032316 = 32.1221 BTC [-] {2}
14:32 ben_vulpes in a day or so.
14:32 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i paid around 0.8k
14:33 asciilifeform not incl. the gringo-tax thing
14:34 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: if you aren't a miser, and don't want to layover in two separate banana republics summing to a full 24 hrs' journey each way - it'll be more like 1.4
14:36 chetty oh hey I finally get to meet you guys :)
14:38 * asciilifeform won't have useful cargo, sadly
14:38 asciilifeform (see logs)
14:39 asciilifeform unless somebody still wants 'pogo'
14:40 chetty << plans to have eulora demp
14:40 BingoBoingo <cazalla> but i even tried 0.10 out of pure frustration and it wouldn't work either.. i actually think it might be related to ram in this pc, memtest86 reports bunch of errors << Bad Ram can keep a lot of things from working
14:40 chetty demo*
14:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21215 @ 0.0003274 = 6.9458 BTC [+]
14:53 BingoBoingo <cazalla> i'll fuck around with the pogo and hopefully learn a thing or two, that but that aside, what are odds shitty ram is cause of my problems.. memtest86 cites errors and i actually did have a couple blackouts a month back << Rather high
15:01 mod6 chetty: im ciked!
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15:49 thestringpuller asciilifeform: how did you manage that?
15:49 thestringpuller asciilifeform: i don't mind travelling 24 hours, one less night have to spend in hotel lol
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.0003274 = 10.706 BTC [+]
16:01 chetty travel can be fun if you relax and go with the flow, my first trip to Argentina was @29 hours
16:04 thestringpuller chetty: I'll be sure to print out lots of trilema to read
16:07 chetty hahaha not sure thats a great choice for light airline reading
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99950 @ 0.00032926 = 32.9095 BTC [+] {3}
16:23 danielpbarron got my hands on some old computers to play around with :D
16:26 scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/polish-bitcoin-embassy-closed/
16:27 danielpbarron right now i'm gonna try to install openbsd 5.6 on an imac g4 via network
16:28 BingoBoingo Cool, good luck
16:29 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Once you do that see if you can get a bitcoin build upon it.
16:32 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/coolbearcjs/status/576791641215754241 << From the noise swamp
16:32 assbot Sources tell me the the NGC is working with Antiguan authorities and the Feds to shut down and to extradite an individual to Nevada soon.
16:34 danielpbarron i feel like i'm in way over my head trying to figure out the pogo stuff without ever having done the same things on already well established paths
16:35 danielpbarron https://twitter.com/EllieAsksWhy/status/576820755121377280
16:35 assbot /EllieAsksWhy Your presence is requested. http://t.co/7Hj12V2vR4
16:38 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Well, if you manage to install OpenBSD it's basically closer to a normal OpenBSD environment than the pogo is.
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40597 @ 0.00033008 = 13.4003 BTC [+] {2}
16:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26603 @ 0.00033278 = 8.8529 BTC [+]
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17:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130900 @ 0.00032346 = 42.3409 BTC [-]
17:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61450 @ 0.00032294 = 19.8447 BTC [-] {2}
17:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83425 @ 0.0003318 = 27.6804 BTC [+] {2}
17:38 mircea_popescu kakobrekla shitcloud!
17:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform oh i c!
17:43 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i paid around 0.8k << ftr this sounds about right.
17:43 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: if you aren't a miser, and don't want to layover in two separate banana republics summing to a full 24 hrs' journey each way << this however doesn't ?!
17:44 mircea_popescu <chetty> << plans to have eulora hemp << what, no pot ? :D
17:45 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: miser, pauper, it's all the same
17:45 mircea_popescu ;later tell cjc NGC ?!
17:45 mircea_popescu a... company ?!
17:47 mircea_popescu i flew istanbul - ba direct, coach was ~800
17:47 mircea_popescu first class was 1100
17:49 ben_vulpes i live in the sticks.
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64091 @ 0.00033473 = 21.4532 BTC [+] {2}
17:50 ben_vulpes the local airport is nominally 'international', but only to select destinations and not many into s.a., much less efficiently over to the south atl.
17:50 mircea_popescu i guess this is a point. istanbul is a major airtraffic hub. the us... not.
17:50 ben_vulpes i'm probably going to spend 28hrs traveling both ways, and spend 1.1k
17:50 mircea_popescu kinda like cccp was a "major airtrafic hub" for internal flights only.
17:51 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes crazy.
17:51 ben_vulpes i imagine the forbidden city is a bit more well trafficked.
17:51 ben_vulpes perhaps next year i'll take two weeks off and spend a few days in nyc with friends
17:51 mircea_popescu bout 1k people / minute.
17:52 mircea_popescu hm, no, that's an exageration. bout 5k an hour more like it.
17:54 mircea_popescu meanwhile in teh sticks, http://36.media.tumblr.com/f36cba3e49b12d0a3b87b624e00a2557/tumblr_n2l158SH6c1skmp0co1_1280.jpg
17:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBcPIs )
17:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 135150 @ 0.00032202 = 43.521 BTC [-] {2}
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18:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60900 @ 0.00032478 = 19.7791 BTC [+]
18:21 fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990285.0
18:21 assbot [ANN] [CHK] Chicken | chicken. chickens. chicken. | RC Chicken ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBfIsI )
18:27 ben_vulpes chikken-eats-ya
18:28 BingoBoingo layeggs true to mine?
18:30 mircea_popescu proof of lay!
18:30 mircea_popescu !up gabridome
18:30 mircea_popescu how's life been treatin ya ?
18:31 mircea_popescu fluffypony can in egg-vest?
18:33 mircea_popescu this is like... the frist time i saw something intelligent on tardstalk in... years ?!
18:33 mircea_popescu wd/
18:34 mircea_popescu in similar news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/6a4513d3f9e8366e0748766179582b88/tumblr_mz2hnxZYHL1s4jw4io1_1280.jpg
18:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBgwho )
18:34 mircea_popescu chick!
18:35 fluffypony lol
18:35 fluffypony what comes first, the chicken-vest or the egg-vest?
18:36 mircea_popescu egg-vest. i guess i may be the only one still wearing three piece suits,
18:36 mircea_popescu but i've made more eggvest than say cumpanties.
18:36 mircea_popescu mostly because the sort of sluts i hang out with don't even have panties, but anyway.
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18:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77650 @ 0.00032964 = 25.5965 BTC [+]
19:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50488 @ 0.00033059 = 16.6908 BTC [+] {2}
19:09 Adlai fluffypony: b&
19:10 * Adlai loaded page 1 before deletion, clicked to page 2 - deleted
19:10 fluffypony awwww
19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63350 @ 0.00032964 = 20.8827 BTC [-]
19:13 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=14-03-2015#1052459 << ik: for them = gaming. also http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/[sf]-{nsa,mg,qntr,mpif}/ all http 500
19:13 assbot Logged on 14-03-2015 02:11:04; mike_c: gaming. for them, idk.
19:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GFtQgx )
19:19 ben_vulpes http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ << works for me
19:19 assbot S.MPOE Analysis - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1wJMxQe )
19:19 ben_vulpes berp of course, that's mpoe
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19:51 danielpbarron !up funkenstein
19:55 funkenstein !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6
19:55 assbot A key with that fingerprint is already registered by funkenstein_
19:55 danielpbarron ;;later tell kakobrekla ^ can fix?
19:55 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109893 @ 0.0003304 = 36.3086 BTC [+] {2}
20:24 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/f11b22b24c3ed8f156483edbead36a97/tumblr_mqwqnwfB1w1sqeqspo1_500.jpg
20:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18MzGBC )
20:24 mircea_popescu !gettrust funkenstein
20:24 assbot funkenstein is not registered in WoT.
20:24 mircea_popescu !gettrust funkenstein_
20:24 assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user funkenstein_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/funkenstein_ | http://w.b-a.link/user/funkenstein_
20:24 mircea_popescu lol noobbane
20:25 mircea_popescu !rate funkenstein_ 1 New blood
20:25 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/9e26c86e0bf5dffd
20:25 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.funkenstein_.1:08f17d910038511d7eb6dd50c053622072b2d77774b05f63de70f50240b6bd83
20:25 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for funkenstein_ with note: New blood
20:26 mircea_popescu funkenstein : id as funkenstein_ and you can self voice.
20:26 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-02-2015#1021751
20:26 assbot Logged on 17-02-2015 03:18:52; Adlai: let's take a step back. the wot should be about who trusts whom, and trust is verified on the basis of signatures. i see no reason why node identity should be based on anything other than signing keys.
20:26 mircea_popescu Adlai http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/ << i see it ?
20:26 assbot S.MPOE Analysis - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/18MAgPF )
20:27 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2015#1053154
20:27 assbot Logged on 14-03-2015 23:19:50; ben_vulpes: berp of course, that's mpoe
20:27 mircea_popescu Adlai hm ?
20:27 Adlai mpoe and bbet work, the others don't
20:27 mircea_popescu o i c. right you are.
20:27 * Adlai suspects it may involve a lack of dividends
20:28 mircea_popescu could be
20:28 mircea_popescu Adlai people associate shorthand names with keys. sorta like nicknames/callsigns work in the army/airforce.
20:31 Adlai callsigns aren't a good example, being assigned for uniqueness (and sometimes other properties such as perceived cleverness or snake-oil information hiding
20:33 mircea_popescu but that speaks to how they're assigned, the discussion was about how they're used.
20:41 mircea_popescu dude polish looks like a fucking dragon wrote it down.
20:43 mircea_popescu pm assbot !up
20:45 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo from what i hear, the entire polish embassy thing is bs. for one thing, they really didn't do much / nobody even knew existed. for the other, no police reports, or what exactly happened there ?
20:45 mircea_popescu sounds more like a gay spat than anything, two people who figured "they" were the embassy or something.
20:48 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-03-2015#1050716 + http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2015#1052448 = profit!
20:48 assbot Logged on 12-03-2015 21:42:29; scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/latest-ransomware-targets-game-files-related-applications/
20:48 assbot Logged on 14-03-2015 02:08:13; asciilifeform: mega-lol re: 'whaleclub', which apparently requires proprietary turdware to connect to!
20:51 funkenstein_ end to end encryption users not affected: http://research.dyn.com/2015/03/uk-traffic-diverted-ukraine/
20:51 assbot UK traffic diverted through Ukraine - Dyn Research | The New Home Of Renesys ... ( http://bit.ly/1GR2w2H )
21:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 188006 @ 0.00032803 = 61.6716 BTC [-] {2}
21:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155490 @ 0.00032531 = 50.5825 BTC [-]
21:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00033061 = 8.3975 BTC [+]
21:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87700 @ 0.00033061 = 28.9945 BTC [+]
21:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00033061 = 3.5375 BTC [+]
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21:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 145200 @ 0.00032468 = 47.1435 BTC [-] {3}
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22:16 ben_vulpes "earlier versions of the popular to edit so as to make your own ransomware." << parser failure
22:17 ben_vulpes cazalla:
22:18 cazalla f5 and see if i make sense now
22:19 ben_vulpes myeah that's a skosh better.
22:20 cazalla i guess i could've done a better job of illustrating that these variants are mostly copy/pasta jobs
22:20 mircea_popescu skosh lol
22:21 cazalla mircea_popescu, hey, i learned a new word
22:21 mircea_popescu this is how jewness spreads.
22:23 cazalla ben_vulpes, btw, puta shop is closed sundays, so i'm gonna try to sync up blockchain on another machine. i stuck the memory in the other slots in this machine and memtest86 didn't detect any errors over night so might be the motherboard instead
22:23 cazalla i mean, there are other shops around but they charge an arm and a leg for half as much
22:23 ben_vulpes probably the right thing to do is to draw the parallel between braindead altcoin 'creators' and braindead copypasty ransomware operators. script kiddies, the lot of 'em.
22:23 ben_vulpes keep on keepin on cazalla
22:24 mircea_popescu speaking of which, yo funkenstein_ how much woodcoins does a btc buy me ?
22:24 ben_vulpes altcoin creator gets in wot
22:24 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu buys coins
22:24 ben_vulpes dem incentives
22:24 mircea_popescu lol
22:28 mircea_popescu http://woodcutting.club/ << clealry.
22:28 assbot Index of / ... ( http://bit.ly/1xocMGW )
22:28 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/91aad72abf74f35c61aa07815be59c99/tumblr_n2zz6sUe2K1ry2rtco1_1280.jpg << travel lightly.
22:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1xocRKI )
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23:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91584 @ 0.00032698 = 29.9461 BTC [+]
23:15 danielpbarron ah i thought that whaleclub sounded familiar; i talked to those guys when they were on google hangouts one time https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/statuses/505781493239910400
23:15 assbot Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "@flibbr You should better be chatting in #bitcoin-assets. http://t.co/hEYes37cMV" ... ( http://bit.ly/1GG1PW9 )
23:15 danielpbarron oh huh, assbot grabbed the selected tweet that time.. inconsistent bastard!
23:16 danielpbarron "I would do but I don't really have time for IRC tbh. . and as a communication vehicle find it too inefficient."
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23:17 danielpbarron the guy was trying to convince me that the price was effect by the moon
23:17 danielpbarron https://twitter.com/flibbr/status/533942870735343616
23:17 assbot What if /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash price goes up during a down moon cycle? /BitcoinBravo /hashtag/moon?src=hash /hashtag/parabolic?src=hash
23:31 thestringpuller ;;ticker
23:31 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 283.57, Best ask: 283.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 283.7, 24 hour volume: 18127.28269587, 24 hour low: 281.55, 24 hour high: 287.6, 24 hour vwap: None
23:31 thestringpuller the price drops 10 bucks and people freak out now?
23:32 ben_vulpes who's freaking out?
23:34 thestringpuller /r/bitcoin ofc
23:35 thestringpuller "we were so close to 300"
23:36 danielpbarron i have mixed feelings about the price going up, but generally i'd rather it not seeing as how I'd like more opportunity to get it cheap
23:38 danielpbarron !up Bagels7
23:42 danielpbarron ;;later tell jurov found my btc-dev-request email in my spam folder "Why is this message in Spam? It is in violation of Google's recommended email sender guidelines. Learn more"
23:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:43 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> sounds more like a gay spat than anything, two people who figured "they" were the embassy or something. << If this was their opening it wouldn't make the cut. But the part where it is closing isn't. Everything else is hedged appropriately.
23:43 Bagels7 Oh dpb, why did you voice me, you know everyone here is way smarter than me, well at least the regulars
23:46 thestringpuller Bagels7: that means you're smart too by Socratic-ish logic tho.
23:49 ben_vulpes hey Bagels7
23:49 danielpbarron well you were smart enough to buy trilema credits
23:50 danielpbarron !up ColdHardMetal
23:58 Bagels7 yeah I figure I'll be totally brainwashed by the time i have 9k credits left, it already triggers me in a state of mind where I think I deserve to be abused and started to have relationship issues
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23:58 * Bagels7 hugs ben_vulpes
23:58 danielpbarron well i'm at 8.8k and i'm full blown brainwashed if you ask anyone on the forums
23:59 Bagels7 probably for the best in your case of anarchist passions and social idiocy
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