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00:00 WolfGoethe I welcome any reading resources you have. I've gone thru mullins works, griffths works, "history of money by jack weatherford" was also awesome. and several books on europe in the 30;s
00:00 WolfGoethe I'm no expert but I am trying to think deeply
00:00 mircea_popescu what do you do for a living ?
00:00 WolfGoethe the best chance we have now to close the circle is to focus on retail adoption me thinks
00:01 WolfGoethe I'm a coder mircea and entrepreneur, nothin special
00:01 mircea_popescu but who are you to think.
00:01 mircea_popescu ok, what did you code, what did you entreprene
00:01 WolfGoethe I was bron human, this it is my duty to think.. very unamerican I know lol
00:02 WolfGoethe I code web mostly. many platforms. had a few startups. did the napster of Ringtones in 2000. and a few social networking sites. and now working on some bitcoin stuff.
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00:02 mircea_popescu this is like saying, "i have a computer, it is my duty to generate random strings and publish them"
00:02 mircea_popescu not so.
00:03 WolfGoethe not ready to have a chat about the nature of consciousness right now
00:03 WolfGoethe maybe once I have some green tea
00:03 WolfGoethe I do want to think tacticall with you tho
00:04 WolfGoethe not many who can think on your lvl in the scene, from what I recall
00:04 mircea_popescu well that's nice.
00:04 * asciilifeform wishes to ask handlers of ninjasp4mz0r that the 'iq' dial should be turned clockwise (up) rather than counter-clockwise (down) when agent failure.
00:04 decimation lol
00:04 * asciilifeform is not impressed with current shot
00:05 decimation he is persistent
00:06 WolfGoethe what do u guys think of videos like this? http://vimeo.com/107847867
00:06 assbot Vendys Bitcoin 1st draft on Vimeo
00:08 WolfGoethe we all need to take action to make Bitcoin mainstream
00:08 asciilifeform why?
00:08 WolfGoethe the lack of morale is my main concern
00:08 WolfGoethe I see this like a grass roots social justice movement
00:08 mircea_popescu dude wouldja stop with the nonsense. it's ridoinculous.
00:09 WolfGoethe ? nonsense?
00:10 mircea_popescu yes nonsense.
00:10 mircea_popescu ;;google bitcoin and the poor
00:10 gribble Cash transfers in Africa: Bitcoin for the poor | The Economist: <http://www.economist.com/blogs/baobab/2014/06/cash-transfers-africa>; How Bitcoin Could Help the World's Poor | Acton PowerBlog: <http://blog.acton.org/archives/67759-bitcoin-help-worlds-poorest-people.html>; Lessons From Mobile Payments: Bitcoin Will Not Help the Poor or ...: (1 more message)
00:10 mircea_popescu o rly.
00:10 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/bitcoin-and-the-poor/ there
00:10 assbot Bitcoin and the poor pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
00:11 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> and who the fuck decided that a perfectly good 'eth0' should turn into 'enp0s29u1u1' ? << o yikes
00:12 asciilifeform incidentally, timeless classic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts
00:12 assbot Let Africa Sink
00:12 asciilifeform (re: africa)
00:13 WolfGoethe you think planning and focusing our efforts to create bitcoin saturated nodes within the west is nonsense?
00:13 thickasthieves "In the latest move, Blockchain, a Bitcoin wallet provider and software developer, is expected to announce on Tuesday that it has closed a roughly $30.5 million fund-raising round, led by Lightspeed Venture Partners and Wicklow Capital. The investment, raised from Blockchain’s first round of outside financing, is one of the biggest in the digital currency industry to date."
00:13 WolfGoethe bitcoin can indeed help the underbanked... but what about us "over" banked... as in those being crushed by the banks and their fees and hassele
00:15 mats_cd03 read more and type less
00:15 WolfGoethe lol
00:15 WolfGoethe ok...
00:15 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> the only conceivable cure is liberal beatings. << oh ho ho ho
00:16 mircea_popescu i guess more derps getting listed.
00:16 mircea_popescu WolfGoethe in so many words, yes. and stop using the plural, best anyone can determine you're a solitary guy with his hopes, aspirations, confused mainstream mental impactions and internet connection.
00:16 mircea_popescu these five elements do not require a plural pronoun
00:18 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> as pictured in the film '300'. << it's an insane depiction. the original guy was actually pericle's master.
00:18 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> if you compare how you treat your pets and how the average liberal intends to treat "those people" you get a scary identity. << oh come i only feed the pets when they behave
00:18 WolfGoethe I'm in NYC and go to all the bitcoin dev meetups. coded an api open source project and trying to give back. came here looking to chat and I am being judged so harshly? i know this is irc... but still.
00:18 mats_cd03 lol
00:18 WolfGoethe later
00:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wrong ephialtes
00:18 mircea_popescu WolfGoethe "TALKING ABOUT BITCOIN, EVEN IF IN A GROUP, DOES NOT MAKE YOU PART OF BITCOIN."
00:18 mircea_popescu sauce : http://trilema.com/2014/a-compendium-of-basic-points-about-bitcoin-for-the-benefit-of-various-confused-noobs/
00:18 assbot A compendium of basic points about Bitcoin for the benefit of various confused noobs. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
00:19 mats_cd03 run away from the mean people
00:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the one in question is ephialtes of trachis
00:19 thickasthieves talking about people that talk about bitcoin doesnt make you part of bitcoin either
00:19 mircea_popescu o nm
00:19 thickasthieves ./troll
00:20 mircea_popescu generally the unqualified name refers the other
00:20 mircea_popescu "i know this is irc... but still" ?!
00:20 mircea_popescu what the fuck is going on in these people's brains i wish to know.
00:21 ben_vulpes <WolfGoethe> once bitcoin "closes the circle" then it shall be a true competitor to the usd << what do you mean by "closing the circle"?
00:21 * ben_vulpes reads subsequent link
00:22 ben_vulpes http://blog.easybitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/slides_whatismoney-1024x737.png
00:22 ben_vulpes oh man unintentional lulz
00:26 ben_vulpes i miss all the good stuff
00:39 ben_vulpes fun with electricity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snk3C4m44SY&feature=youtu.be
00:39 assbot High Voltage AC/DC Effect on Human Body - YouTube
00:44 mircea_popescu well at least you point it out for the rest of us. i didn 't click
00:48 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the problem with gavin's idiocy isn't merely that "substantial increasing barrier to entry for operators of full nodes", horrid as that may be.
00:48 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: it starts with
00:48 ben_vulpes "The dream is to see Bitcoin mainstream.
00:48 ben_vulpes "
00:49 mircea_popescu the problem with gavin's idiocy is that roughly speaking, the square of the block size and the total network hash are on opposite sides of an equality, which describes total network security.
00:49 mircea_popescu so basically, he's proposing significant downstepping of current blockchain security.
00:49 mircea_popescu neither of these are getting merged into bitcoin, whatever gavin says or whatever forks happen.
00:50 mircea_popescu if indeed they're stupid enough to fork it, i will sink their fork on the open market.
00:50 mircea_popescu and if that's the path they wish to use to introduce faux bitcoin-lite for the us domestic market, that's fine, but it won't go over any better than an attempt from scratch.
00:51 mircea_popescu "we" know what bitcoin is and why we're using it.
00:51 Bet placed: 1.6666 BTC for No on "Bitcoin $817 or above before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/1043/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.58476514 BTC. Current weight: 77,721.
00:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-03-2014#574604 << i can't believe this fucktard actually came back under a new name but referenced his old persona.
00:51 assbot Logged on 22-03-2014 16:21:56; Ghaleon: hence the typical irc, leet jerk attitude is bout to be extinct
00:52 mircea_popescu srsly ?! try every six months, maybe his retardation now fits reality ? go sulk for another six months, try again ?
00:52 mircea_popescu hey idiot, how about fixing your head instead ?
00:52 asciilifeform hey, vs. mr spam's six weeks.
00:53 mircea_popescu i guess. but an oscillator's still an oscillator, no matter the period.
00:57 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: This is very true about the large blocks working against security. Throw it up there as a comment.
00:58 mircea_popescu i';d have left a link on their blog but of course.... cloudflare claims the host is broken
00:58 mircea_popescu because cloudflare, as any other usg product, can never be a failful piece of shit that doesn't work.
00:58 mircea_popescu obamacare for websites.
01:00 BingoBoingo Seriously Cloudflare sites are more unavailable than any others I've seen
01:00 mircea_popescu wait, is that guy in the video trying to charge capacitors in an ac circuit ?
01:01 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo best health care in murica!
01:03 BingoBoingo Rly
01:04 asciilifeform charge capacitors in an ac circuit << great fun when you're a kid
01:05 mircea_popescu heh i guess.
01:06 mircea_popescu from the confiscated miners article, "Неизвестно откуда взявшиеся эксперты таможенной службы установили, что металлические конструкции со встроенными в них схемами «предназначены для выполнения специализированных операций расчета хэш-сумм с б
01:06 mircea_popescu ольшой скоростью, что позволяет использовать их для концентрации на определенном адресе чисел и денежных средств». Вероятно, это подтверждает высокий уровень технической подготовки экспертов таможенной службы Читы, способных н
01:06 mircea_popescu а взгляд определить возможности схем, зашитых в металлический корпус."
01:06 asciilifeform ^ mega-lol
01:06 mircea_popescu what uncharitable bs. really, it's that hard to identify hash chips ? i had no idea o.O
01:06 asciilifeform it's a specially-constructed stilted, official language.
01:07 mircea_popescu well or a mockery thereof.
01:07 asciilifeform used in soviet and perhaps other 'eastern despot' officialdom.
01:07 asciilifeform mockery is likely.
01:07 mircea_popescu but i mean, "guy came in with 10lbs of undeclared stuff, got it confiscated"
01:07 mircea_popescu this reminds me vaguely of the nefario timetravel adventures.
01:08 asciilifeform well, to round out story, 'when asked why undeclared, uttered 'bitcoin', received the prescribed five lashes' or the like.
01:09 mircea_popescu a much better story would be something like, "company ordered parts, submitted proper importation documents, had them confiscated at border "
01:09 * asciilifeform just spent four hours ripping poettering out of what appeared to be a perfectly sanitary gentoo, is mighty pissed
01:10 mircea_popescu make sure you post the results.
01:10 mircea_popescu "poettering-free gentoo"
01:10 asciilifeform lol. next i post the ebola-free pudding recipe.
01:10 mircea_popescu whatever the gentoo repackages are called i forget
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01:10 BingoBoingo !b 4
01:11 asciilifeform http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << for a start
01:11 assbot Gentoo Without systemd - Gentoo Wiki
01:11 asciilifeform (not my recipe, but from the folks who write recipes)
01:12 asciilifeform and - if you don't mask the turd, 'sanitary' gentoo (sans systemd) will indeed pull in udev-systemd by default.
01:12 mircea_popescu anyway. the first step riding the world of human excrement is telling the "wolfgoethe"s, poetterings, gavins & co of this world that they are wrong to exist.
01:13 mircea_popescu just that simple fact. "no amount of environmentalism helps anything as long as you continue to exist"
01:13 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/gXrMsoM
01:13 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
01:14 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
01:14 asciilifeform (or recall yoga master, with his single nail. gotta start small!)
01:14 mircea_popescu o shit this goes with the ak rant
01:14 mircea_popescu !up KamiNoCharto
01:14 asciilifeform yes, it does.
01:15 mircea_popescu why is it "tactical" again ?
01:15 mircea_popescu embedded tictacs ?
01:15 asciilifeform no amount of environmentalism << 'unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better - it's not...'
01:15 mircea_popescu where's the quote from ?
01:16 asciilifeform !s unless someone like you cares
01:16 assbot 0 results for 'unless someone like you cares' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=unless+someone+like+you+cares
01:16 mircea_popescu ahahaha seusss?
01:16 asciilifeform variant is from unwritten mental version of said rhyme
01:16 asciilifeform regarding our friends the poetterings et al.
01:17 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#758211 << re: 'tactical'
01:17 assbot Logged on 16-07-2014 18:55:26; asciilifeform: as i understand, the term originally applied to brands of optical rifle sight designed to withstand the field (water, whacking over enemy's head, etc.) vs ones that only need to survive a leisurely duck hunt
01:18 mircea_popescu "unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better - you're rot"
01:18 mircea_popescu mno, vocative
01:18 mircea_popescu "unless someone like you dies a whole awful lot, nothing is gonna get better, you rot!"
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01:18 asciilifeform !b 1
01:18 * asciilifeform invites readers to defile the entire poem
01:20 mircea_popescu got a link ?
01:21 mircea_popescu meh why so long ;/
01:22 asciilifeform http://clubs.cob.calpoly.edu/~cmiller/poetry/The%20Lorax.htm
01:23 mircea_popescu yup, same exact one i found. check out the unspeakable diversity of the interwebs,
01:23 asciilifeform possibly the only intact copy.
01:23 asciilifeform thank the copyrasts.
01:23 mircea_popescu meanwhile reduced to about five hundred sites by the unerring sloth and stupidiy of the masses and the unrelenting efforts of the corporation.
01:23 mircea_popescu such hellspawn that marriage.
01:30 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
01:30 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 335.56, Best ask: 336.59, Bid-ask spread: 1.03000, Last trade: 336.57, 24 hour volume: 56024.71952397, 24 hour low: 298.32, 24 hour high: 347.0, 24 hour vwap: 318.889388963
01:40 bgupta Anyone going to DPR's trial on Thursday?
01:40 bgupta I might
01:43 mthreat actual trial already?
01:43 mthreat or just pretrial?
01:45 bgupta Unknown, not well reported.
01:46 bgupta All news articles are beign crubbed
01:46 bgupta scrubbed
01:46 bgupta e.g.- #29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)#cite_note-poststar-29
01:46 assbot Silk Road (marketplace) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:48 bgupta gobimint making ti really hard to know where to show up and say "I am sparticus!"
01:57 BingoBoingo !mpif
01:57 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021881 B (Total: 478.50 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000195 BTC [-]
02:12 BingoBoingo Hey pete_dushenski
02:12 pete_dushenski decimation: what I find amusing is that the lefties don't get that they are in a relgious war because they don't even realize that what they are derping about is metaphysics << definitely amusing. though you have to figure that *some* know the equalitarianism can't be measured.
02:12 pete_dushenski heya BingoBoingo
02:13 pete_dushenski nice work on the qntra these last few days :)
02:13 pete_dushenski (and to cazalla as well)
02:14 BingoBoingo So far mostly cazalla
02:16 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/10/gavin-andressen-proposes-scalability-roadmap-and-hardfork/#comment-16 << OrganofCorti
02:16 assbot Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
02:16 pete_dushenski dunno why that dude isn't here already.
02:17 pete_dushenski other than his clear reluctance to get in the wot, he seems smart enough.
02:17 BingoBoingo Dude's pretty much the guy on mining pools
02:18 pete_dushenski mhm
02:19 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: so, you know, free all the 13 yos trapped in 28 yo bodies. << new mpex fund: freedom28
02:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform I HOPE YOU ARE HAPPY WITH YOURSELF
02:20 pete_dushenski includes life lessons, discipline, fear, obedience, and unpredictable lashings.
02:20 mircea_popescu i am a fourth in and nobody can sleep because of you
02:20 mircea_popescu shameful creature of temptation. BACK! YON BEAST!
02:20 mircea_popescu the power of jesus compiles you!
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02:21 pete_dushenski story time chez popescu?
02:23 pete_dushenski …rock-a-by slavegirl… in the treetop… when the wind blows… you'll suck on my cock…
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02:23 BingoBoingo !b 4
02:37 BingoBoingo !up CheckDavid
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03:00 penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptothrift-suspends-escrow-service-coins-lost-in-breech/
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03:25 punkman "Gavin offers this 50% yearly figure based on Nielsen's Law of Internet bandwidth which supposes high speed Internet connections double in speed every year."
03:26 punkman well shit, my bw been the same for like 7 years
03:27 RagnarDanneskjol ha seriously
03:30 punkman I guess guy was talking about datacenters or something "a high-end user's connection speed grows by 50% per year"
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04:04 sgornick Will Qntra gets its own irc channel?
04:10 BingoBoingo sgornick: It probably won't
04:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-lorax/
04:25 assbot The Lorax pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
04:25 mircea_popescu sgornick why would it want a difdferent one ?
04:25 mircea_popescu <bgupta> I might << if you do, blog it.
04:28 sgornick mircea_popescu: To not add qntra-specific noise to #bitcoin-assets. Lots of chatter will be added from it, I suspect.
04:30 mircea_popescu there is no distinction between this and that.
04:31 mircea_popescu the very point of qntra is for there to not be a distance between truth, as represented here, and news.
04:31 mircea_popescu you'll hafta see the logs of its birth.
04:42 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJhAuEYk3ms
04:42 assbot Glasser - Shape - YouTube
04:42 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-lorax/
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06:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0007444 = 6.4763 BTC [+]
06:26 danielpbarron BingoBoingo, "According to CoinThrift the attacked occurred early the morning of October 5th but went undiscovered for some time." s/attacked/attack/c
06:27 BingoBoingo fixed
06:34 BingoBoingo !up startup2`isninja
06:40 startup2`isninja hi
06:41 BingoBoingo Hi
06:44 startup2`isninja what's new, bingoboingo?
06:44 BingoBoingo Not too much
06:49 startup2`isninja I'll be back tonight. I may have another offer for people, it would be a 1-year position and primarily of interest to people who want a hedge against price movements against them. My previous offers were not closed via -assets or -otc. (No transactions done.) the total size of the offering would be up to 100 coins, US legal system and contracts, and approximately 2 weeks from now until wire (or transfer.)
06:50 startup2`isninja later
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07:25 thickasthieves hello davout
07:25 davout ohai
07:25 davout howdy
07:25 thickasthieves been bizzy?
07:26 davout yeah, wedding + honeymoon mostly
07:27 thickasthieves nice
07:32 BingoBoingo http://antilop.cc/sr/files/2014_10_06_Government_Response_To_Horowitz_Declaration.pdf
07:35 thickasthieves usg saying "hey it's only illegal if you get caught right?"
07:36 thickasthieves "As a threshold matter, the declaration does not establish that Ulbricht had a reasonable
07:36 thickasthieves expectation of privacy in the SR Server, as required for him to have standing to move for its
07:36 thickasthieves suppression in the first place"
07:37 thickasthieves if you are criminal, why would you think you have right to privacy?
07:38 thickasthieves isnt there a greater problem where if the gov did inject code to make the server leak, that this precedent would now allow such action the future
07:39 thickasthieves like, if you got a server we dont like, hacking you is fair game
07:40 BingoBoingo Pretty much
07:40 thickasthieves oh wait, they say it explicitly
07:40 thickasthieves "SR Server needed only to be “reasonable” – that is, justified by “legitimate governmental interests.” Vilar, 729 F.3d at 86. Given that the SR Server was hosting a blatantly criminal website, it would have been reasonable for the FBI to “hack” into it in order to search it, as any such “hack” would simply have constituted a search of foreign property known to contain
07:40 thickasthieves criminal evidence, for which a warrant was not necessary ."
07:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35664 @ 0.00074532 = 26.5811 BTC [+] {2}
07:41 bounce total hax man. also, we don't care about your rights. we don't have to care about your rights. we're the government
07:42 thickasthieves well that's preet's take on the matter at least
07:42 thickasthieves we'll see what the judge says
07:43 bounce judges aren't big on waylaying the government these days.
07:45 bounce kinda interesting though, that though it's mostly a dead letter these days over there, you're supposedly still innocent until proven guilty (or badgered into pleading guilty, which they're very good at and do a lot), but that it doesn't go at all for things, like websites. "blatant illegal website!" -- oh, is it? how'd you know that?
07:45 thickasthieves good point
07:46 thickasthieves like how can a foreign website be illegal?
07:46 thickasthieves i suppse it was probably also illegal where SR was hosted
07:47 thickasthieves but arent there other precedents saying a website owner isnt responsible for the crimes commited by users of it?
07:48 thickasthieves do ebay servers get hacked when they discover coupon counterfeiters?
07:48 BingoBoingo Un-pdf turded version here: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-government-files-response-to-horowitz-declaration/
07:48 assbot Silk Road: Government files response to Horowitz Declaration
07:48 bounce "safe harbor" and like rules, yes. which parties like the MAFIAA like to ignore
07:49 penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-government-files-response-to-horowitz-declaration/
07:54 BingoBoingo http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrishamby/government-says-federal-agents-can-impersonate-woman-online#323i2oq
07:54 assbot Government Set Up A Fake Facebook Page In This Woman’s Name
07:55 bounce huh, sneaky circular argument there. usg says hoster Ts&Cs allowed for monitoring to no privacy for you! -- but how'd they know what server to monitor, hm? tor ought to've made it unfindable.
07:55 bounce s/to no/so no/
08:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10423 @ 0.00074579 = 7.7734 BTC [+] {2}
08:10 thickasthieves http://imgur.com/a/6rk2e
08:10 assbot Bearwhale - Imgur
08:12 BingoBoingo Sweet, lotta bearwhale fan art out there. I'm waiting for the slashfic.
08:19 BingoBoingo http://gawker.com/7th-heaven-father-stephen-collins-admits-to-child-moles-1643250821
08:19 assbot 7th Heaven Dad Stephen Collins Taped Confessing to Child Sex Abuse
08:23 BingoBoingo !up aabtcwhiskyhodl
08:24 aabtcwhiskyhodl wooo bitcoin
08:24 BingoBoingo Yeah whisky and hodl
08:24 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
08:24 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 321.03, Best ask: 322.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.47000, Last trade: 322.53, 24 hour volume: 34906.79588908, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 347.0, 24 hour vwap: 330.464326352
08:25 BingoBoingo http://media.bnd.com/smedia/2014/10/07/06/14/apiCa.AuSt.98.jpg
08:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0007444 = 3.9081 BTC [-]
08:31 BingoBoingo Gavin comments
08:33 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/10/gavin-andressen-proposes-scalability-roadmap-and-hardfork/#comment-19
08:33 assbot Gavin Andresen Proposes Scalability Roadmap and Hardfork
08:42 thickasthieves bingoboingo, typo maximun
08:43 thickasthieves in that article
08:44 kakobrekla maxinum
08:45 thickasthieves nixamum
08:45 kakobrekla maxinum and mininum
08:46 bounce such extremum
08:58 thickasthieves nytimes reports on bearwhale
08:58 thickasthieves lol
08:58 thickasthieves http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/bearwhale-is-freaking-out-the-bitcoin-markets.html
08:58 assbot BearWhale Is Freaking Out the Bitcoin Markets -- NYMag
08:58 thickasthieves nymag*
08:58 thickasthieves "nd the Bitcoiners celebrated. "WE JUST HARPOONED THAT MOTHERFUCKER!" wrote one. "While the stock markets were closed, we had our weekend full of laughs and tears. Who doesn't wanna be part of it? Long live the 24/7 free market!" wrote another."
08:59 mats_cd03 ;;isup qntra.net
08:59 gribble qntra.net is up
08:59 BingoBoingo thickasthieves: where nao
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.0007442 = 11.0886 BTC [-] {2}
09:00 thickasthieves middle area
09:02 BingoBoingo fix'd
09:03 ben_vulpes <BingoBoingo> http://antilop.cc/sr/files/2014_10_06_Government_Response_To_Horowitz_Declaration.pdf << PHP databases
09:03 thickasthieves cool cool
09:04 ben_vulpes mright.
09:04 thickasthieves ;;estimate
09:04 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 35557887526.9 based on data since last change | 38815196708.8 based on data for last three days
09:04 thickasthieves those new cheapo asicminer prisms will hit the scene soon
09:04 BingoBoingo Maybe I need to stop bashing my hand with the OED when I typo and find a correction that doesn't affect the typing hands.
09:05 thickasthieves lol
09:05 thickasthieves be a real writer and write from Androad with autocorrect
09:05 thickasthieves using touch kb of course
09:06 ben_vulpes androad
09:06 BingoBoingo Huh, the Dodgers are starting Kershaw again tomorrow after he got tagged for 8 runs Friday
09:07 mats_cd03 i see the scalability roadmap refers to moore's law
09:08 mats_cd03 as i understand it moore's law doesn't mean shit anymore
09:09 thickasthieves wasnt moore's
09:09 thickasthieves nielsen's
09:09 BingoBoingo Also the part where bandwidth doesn't evenly increase and shit.
09:09 nubbins` so i click a gop.com link that was posted in this channel
09:09 nubbins` now all week, google is feeding me ads for George H.W. Bush socks
09:10 thickasthieves then if you buy some theyll show you the ad even more
09:10 mats_cd03 >Fortunately technological progress marches on, and Nielsen’s Law of Internet Bandwidth and Moore’s Law make scaling up easier as time passes.
09:10 nubbins` no doubt
09:10 nubbins` http://imgur.com/SRCgCeh
09:10 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
09:10 nubbins` ^ if you were wondering what bush sr socks look like
09:10 thickasthieves wow
09:10 thickasthieves garish
09:11 thickasthieves contribute? to what his whiskey fund?
09:11 dub assets is gop sponsored chan
09:11 BingoBoingo GOP's bigger socialists than Obummer
09:13 nubbins` heh
09:13 nubbins` meantime, you ever look at portrait photographs of dick cheney?
09:13 nubbins` http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg/640px-46_Dick_Cheney_3x4.jpg
09:14 nubbins` that's the look of a man who fucked you in the ass
09:14 mats_cd03 holy shit he's aged
09:14 nubbins` and he knows you can't do anything about it
09:14 mats_cd03 bush, that is
09:15 BingoBoingo http://www.mediaite.com/tv/young-ex-isis-hostage-shocks-cnn-reporter-family-they-are-right/
09:15 assbot Young Ex-ISIS Hostage Shocks CNN Reporter, Family: ‘They Are Right’ | Mediaite
09:15 BingoBoingo !up jb
09:15 BingoBoingo !up jborkl
09:21 dub are they not right?
09:24 dub kid should have beheaded cnn reporter for real shock value
09:25 BingoBoingo Who knows?
09:26 dub I do
09:26 BingoBoingo Cool
09:35 TomServo http://wartard.blogspot.com/
09:35 assbot War Tard
09:35 TomServo Could of interesting posts on ISIS there.
09:35 TomServo s/could/couple
09:36 sgornick > Beth Moses led the standardization and testing of extravehicular interfaces for the International Space Station while at NASA.
09:36 sgornick Now trying to get people to use XBT versus BTC
09:36 sgornick https://bitcoinfoundation.org/press-releases/press-release-october-7-2014-bitcoin-foundation-financial-standards-working-group-leads-the-way-for-mainstream-bitcoin-adoption-2/
09:36 assbot Press Release October 7, 2014: Bitcoin Foundation Financial Standards Working Group Leads the Way for Mainstream Bitcoin Adoption | The Bitcoin Foundation
09:37 sgornick > Bitcoin are B⃦, ฿, and Ƀ. <--- Which do you prefer?
09:39 nubbins` btc
09:40 fluffypony sgornick: Z
09:40 nubbins` ask me again if/when a standard US keyboard includes a B⃦, ฿, or Ƀ symbol
09:40 fluffypony tbh, Ƀ is a stupid symbol
09:40 fluffypony it looks like a B getting probed analy
09:41 fluffypony which, frankly, is kinda rude since the B didn't do anything to deserve an anal probing
09:41 BingoBoingo No need for a symbol. BTC is fine. People build friendly 'nugh interfaces with BTC
09:42 thickasthieves really i'd rather focus on getting people to quit choosing arbitrary denominations
09:42 thickasthieves like millibit and bitcent
09:42 thickasthieves just uses satoshis dammit
09:43 fluffypony agreed
09:44 kakobrekla how is XBT better ?
09:44 thickasthieves X > C
09:44 ben_vulpes ;;later tell asciilifeform http://jacquesmaurel.com/gears
09:44 assbot Jacques Maurel - Teacher in Machine Design | GEARS
09:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:45 thickasthieves X is better because it kowtows to the establishment
09:45 kakobrekla what?
09:46 thickasthieves which is the purpose of the btcf
09:46 kakobrekla ah
09:46 kakobrekla sry i misread it first time
09:46 nubbins` why do i read comments on CBC articles?
09:47 nubbins` this is regarding an article about cleaning products not being required to list the specific perfume/scent ingredients: "Printing is cheap these days so no reason not to list all the ingredients in everything"
09:47 kakobrekla sgornick arguing that XBT is better for adoption or whatever the fuck is beyond retarded
09:47 thickasthieves this is all Circle had to say about my inquiry as to my order being cancelled "We may have delayed your transaction due to our fraud prevention monitoring. I apologize for any inconvenience! We should have this issue resolved in the next few days."
09:47 kakobrekla might as well call btc shitcakes.
09:48 thickasthieves so is my tx delayed or canceled?
09:48 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "S&P 500 to post 8th straight quarter of gains" http://bitbet.us/bet/1053/ Odds: 64(Y):36(N) by coin, 63(Y):37(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.8357673 BTC. Current weight: 91,607.
09:48 nubbins` thickasthieves you'll never know 8)
09:48 nubbins` i did the full gamut w/ my circle account, A+++ would buy satoshis from again
09:48 thickasthieves it's canceled but that's much too substantive a word for a rep to use
09:49 kakobrekla heh
09:49 thickasthieves delayed permanently instead
09:49 nubbins` also A+++ would cash out via again
09:49 thickasthieves lol at canadians getting through but not usians
09:50 nubbins` :D
09:50 nubbins` with my visa-enabled debit card!
09:50 kakobrekla O_o
09:50 nubbins` also worked w/ my straight-up visa, but dem cash advance fees
09:52 ben_vulpes thickasthieves: the wot begins to bite
09:52 thickasthieves this was my message to Circle, to which i got that form response "I shouldn't complain since the price has gone down anyway, but why didn't this order go through? I just want to know how to avoid the problem in the future.
09:52 thickasthieves Note that it's ironic that I actually made this purchase by mistake because I thought the "Deposit" button meant , yknow, depositing funds, not exchanging currencies. Your system of dollarifying all numbers is obnoxious. Let people type in bitcoin amounts and understand it as a separate currency. You're just confusing things."
09:52 kakobrekla http://laughingsquid.com/beautiful-high-definition-macro-videos-of-chemical-reactions/
09:52 assbot Beautiful High Definition Macro Videos of Chemical Reactions
09:53 nubbins` yeah
09:53 danielpbarron !up brianhoffman
09:53 nubbins` MFW i couldn't zero my btc balance upon withdrawal
09:53 danielpbarron wth gribble
09:55 ben_vulpes !up brianhoffman
09:56 nubbins` bbl furnace guy
09:56 ben_vulpes ;;gettrust assbot danielpbarron
09:56 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user danielpbarron: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=danielpbarron | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=danielpbarron | Rated since: Thu Mar 21 17:26:04 2013
09:56 ben_vulpes i dun get it either, danielpbarron
09:56 ben_vulpes ;;rate danielpbarron 1
09:56 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
09:56 ben_vulpes ;;eauth ben_vulpes
09:56 gribble Request successful for user ben_vulpes, hostmask ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA
09:56 ben_vulpes ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c2fb6d6d44d05e4e920fa7657c657023bca51dd850832f6953cf88c3
09:56 gribble You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA
09:56 ben_vulpes ;;rate danielpbarron 1
09:56 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.
09:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 850 @ 0.000598 = 0.5083 BTC [+]
10:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12245 @ 0.00074271 = 9.0945 BTC [-]
10:03 danielpbarron ben_vulpes, i lost auth
10:07 danielpbarron !up brianhoffman
10:07 danielpbarron i'm not sure how you, ben_vulpes, were able to !up him without being authed
10:12 ben_vulpes stale assbot state?
10:12 ben_vulpes kakobrekla: any notion?
10:13 ben_vulpes looks like assbot maintains its own notion of authedness
10:13 ben_vulpes but i dunno
10:13 * ben_vulpes shrugs
10:14 ben_vulpes ! down brianhoffman
10:14 ben_vulpes !down brianhoffman
10:17 danielpbarron lol
10:17 danielpbarron how can people say irc isn't "real life?" It has a way to let them storm out all pouty
10:18 kakobrekla if gribble quits you lose his auth but your place in assbots ACL is not lost
10:19 kakobrekla until you quit
10:19 bounce gribble is such a quitter
10:30 thickasthieves http://mtv.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:public.articles.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/annivers.jpg
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11:13 nubbins` http://imgur.com/5w9NqSt
11:13 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
11:13 nubbins` braised a pork shoulder last night
11:20 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu: mutant 'lorax' << mega-lulz.
11:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:32 mats_cd03 i am under the impression SIM cards have DMA
11:32 mats_cd03 am i wrong?
11:33 nubbins` https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8108851
11:33 assbot The SIM card is a full featured computer. It has memory, a CPU, and your telco ... | Hacker News
11:33 mats_cd03 thats not helpful
11:34 nubbins` nope
11:34 nubbins` but there's a modicum of solace in the fact that other people are similarly confused, no?
11:35 dignork !up dbolser
11:35 dbolser hihi
11:35 mats_cd03 the interface is serial but that doesnt really tell me anything
11:35 dbolser working on a counter to the argument that bitcoin price is important if it falls below a certain threshold where the cost of securing the network is 'too high'
11:35 bounce really need to find more ways to recover the secret keys from SIM cards and stick'em in (FOSS-programmed) alternate SIMs that you control
11:36 dbolser I figure cost of securing network is proportional to price
11:36 dbolser but not sure...
11:36 dignork so I invited dbolser here, because we where discussing MV=MC in #bitcoin, but no traction there.
11:37 bounce how hard is it to build a (simple, "feature") phone with fully-controlled firmware including the wireless interface side?
11:37 thickasthieves dbolser while price and mining have a relationship, it is not in sync necessarily
11:37 mats_cd03 bounce: not hard. google: osmocombb
11:38 mats_cd03 http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/
11:38 assbot OsmocomBB
11:38 thickasthieves itd be impossible to know the plans and behavior of major mining outfits and their coins and costs
11:39 thickasthieves also keep in mind that mining costs as reported by reddit etc, are just a snapshot of what can be seen, there have been private operations implementing their own chips for a while now
11:39 dbolser thickasthieves: I don't argue that the two are related in a complex way, but I wonder if there is a lower bound on price whereby mining 'colapses'
11:39 nubbins` yeah, the only chips you hear about are the ones where the makers wanted to vacuum up that sweet sweet "investor" money
11:40 dbolser or is a low price not worth attacking?
11:40 thickasthieves bitcoin doesnt care
11:40 thickasthieves it invites all attacks
11:40 thickasthieves but you only get one chance
11:40 dbolser that's beside the point
11:40 dbolser if price goes to 1 cent per 10 BTC (lets say), is there any 'value' in mining?
11:41 thickasthieves the problem i have with the point is it acts like price is a driver of anything but speculation
11:41 dbolser ing?
11:41 thickasthieves mining is more likely to affect price than the reverse imo
11:41 mats_cd03 the infinite money machine distorts proper analysis of these things
11:41 bounce so easiest there would be to put a good push behind supporting more phones (like some nokia models from back when they were respectable)
11:42 thickasthieves price isnt a force, it is a measurement
11:42 thickasthieves i think...
11:47 dbolser so, hypothetically, does bitcoin ever die?
11:48 dbolser is there a set of functions it performs as cost enters certain ranges?
11:48 ben_vulpes wrong channel, dbolser
11:48 ben_vulpes :P
11:48 ben_vulpes can you clarify the functions question?
11:49 dbolser ben_vulpes: yeah, I'm vague there too... like if the price stays really low, it's still a tool for international trade
11:49 dbolser if price gets higher, is it a store of value?
11:49 dbolser I was thinking something along those lines
11:49 dbolser seems the higher the price, the bigger the buzz, the wider the application
11:50 ben_vulpes it's always a store of value, and it's always a method of transacting value.
11:50 dbolser perhaps I need to study alt-coin failure modes
11:50 dbolser yeah
11:50 ben_vulpes the interesting thing is what happens to modern governments that run on printing money.
11:54 dignork dbolser: re alt-coins << there may be a lot of failure modes, but here is a good general explanation: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/the-problem-with-altcoins/
11:54 assbot The Problem with Altcoins | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
11:55 thickasthieves the function is that bitcoin is designed to be antifragile, so each of it's properties work to correct and balance the others
11:55 thickasthieves re remittance, that is one aspect where price (more specifically, market cap) matters
11:56 ben_vulpes thickasthieves: how does market cap affect remittance?
11:56 thickasthieves bitcoin is backed by bagholders, so if you wanna be able to transact AND cash out large amounts, you need large price
11:56 ben_vulpes hm
11:57 thickasthieves this is also why you get guys talking about "closing the loop"
11:58 thickasthieves which is not totally possible, but probably the natural point bitcoin trends towards
11:59 thickasthieves closing the loop is probably an anti-goal because changing the value of bitcoin dramatically would also change the costs of goods dramatically
11:59 thickasthieves i'm just thinking out loud here, waiting for someont to bring me to earth
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11813156 BTC to 15`414 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 5.10594672 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 444 satoshi per share
12:02 thickasthieves generally i subscribe to the belief that all extremes and ideals are only achievable for a moment at best, and that a robust/sustainable approach to theory and design is better
12:02 nubbins` i found a piece of paper yesterday that said "1:30pm tuesday oct 7" and i can't remember if i'm supposed to be meeting someone here or not
12:03 mats_cd03 lol
12:03 nubbins` thickasthieves casascius coins are essentially a closed loop, albeit not a very good example
12:04 thickasthieves i'm not sure we mean the same thing
12:04 dignork thickasthieves: in case of wide usage of btc, remittance as business will disappear
12:04 thickasthieves by closed loop i mean getting people to transact in bitcoin and not convert to fiat
12:05 thickasthieves vendors>business>consumer>employer>
12:05 thickasthieves dignork i assume you mean be taken over by crypto, not disappear
12:06 nubbins` oh sure, yeah
12:06 nubbins` totally different things
12:06 los_pantalones thickasthieves why do ppl think you should exchange a provably finite asset for something like a ham sandwich
12:06 thickasthieves Well i think businesses will still provide the service
12:06 dignork thickasthieves: if it's trivial to find buyer here, and seller there, it won't be remittance anymore, just exchage fees on both sides of trade
12:06 los_pantalones ever seen someone exchange .00001% of their home for a piece of pie ?
12:06 thickasthieves people still wanna 'bank' of asome sort
12:06 thickasthieves that wont go away
12:07 thickasthieves dignork thats what remittance is, paying a fee to transport money via a 3rd party
12:07 thickasthieves i'm saying the 3rd party will continue to exist
12:07 thickasthieves it will just look different
12:08 thickasthieves remit companies might also be more general escrow agencies
12:08 thickasthieves maybe even contract facilitators/arbiters
12:08 thickasthieves maybe get into insurance
12:08 thickasthieves etc
12:09 thickasthieves just because bitcoin lets people do things for themselves doesnt mean that all of sudden people will start doing things for themselves
12:10 PeterL http://blog.btcscoop.com/use-code-xbt-not-btc-for-bitcoins/ and yes I see the irony of posting this on a website starting with btc
12:10 assbot Use code XBT, not BTC for bitcoins |
12:13 thickasthieves no.
12:13 thickasthieves ;;8ball should we switch to XBT?
12:13 gribble The answer is certainly yes.
12:14 thickasthieves you muthfukah!
12:14 thickasthieves first time gribble failed me
12:14 dignork thickasthieves: in "send money home" scenario, no arbitrage/insurance is required, unless we are talking about hedging volatility risk. Any btc buyer or seller migh assume himself in "remittance business", which means unrestricted lower bound for margin. that's why i think remittance as a business will disappear. It will just turn into a corner case of btc<->whatever trade.
12:15 PeterL you don't need remittances anymore, just a local trader at each end to convert to/from local currency
12:18 PeterL didn't MP once refer to local currency as "food vouchers"?
12:22 PeterL maybe that is why USgov wants the price low, so it is harder to move large quantities of money outside their system without permission?
12:22 dignork PeterL | you don't need remittances anymore << in theory you are right, but for now you have whopping 5 buyers listed on localbitcoins in Mexico. Seems we are not there yet.
12:23 PeterL yeah, not yet, but certainly moving that direction
12:27 kakobrekla no i think we should call it YBT
12:27 thickasthieves those individuals are still remittance businesses
12:27 kakobrekla Y Y? Y not?
12:28 thickasthieves i think we should rename all currencies to add C
12:28 thickasthieves dollarcoin
12:28 kakobrekla CYBT then
12:28 thickasthieves poundcoin
12:28 thickasthieves USDC
12:28 thickasthieves EURC
12:28 thickasthieves it's teh rule!
12:29 thickasthieves wtf is the X bs
12:29 PeterL thickasthieves: yes, but it can be a different individual at each end of the transfer, unlike now where you have the same company at both ends
12:29 thickasthieves you dont though
12:29 PeterL no?
12:29 thickasthieves the abstracted "company" is the local bank
12:29 thickasthieves two different ones on each end
12:30 chetty I wouldnt go too much by localbitcoins listings, plenty of places trading in btc not listed
12:37 bounce what, you don't know? currency codes use the iso3166 two letter country code plus one letter for the currency. so BTC is really "bhutan coin". exceptions are the X codes, XAU, XPT, XAG and so on.
12:38 kakobrekla i guess iso3166 can now ask bitcoin if it can reform
12:42 thickasthieves btc is just more likeable, sry
12:43 thickasthieves this decision is best made with emotion
12:43 kakobrekla hehe
12:43 bounce suriname yen?
12:47 nubbins` ;;bc,xau
12:47 gribble 1 XAU = 1210.700000000000 USD = 3.6744665999 BTC
12:48 nubbins` ouch
12:48 nubbins` 3.67/oz
12:48 rithm double ouch
12:48 rithm seems like highway robbery for shiny metal
12:49 nubbins` <+nubbins`> i found a piece of paper yesterday that said "1:30pm tuesday oct 7" and i can't remember if i'm supposed to be meeting someone here or not
12:49 nubbins` turns out i did indeed have a meeting scheduled for here
12:49 nubbins` also turns out i'm gonna be printing the writers' alliance quarterly journal
12:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8405 @ 0.00074265 = 6.242 BTC [-]
13:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform >D
13:06 nubbins` mp dat poster link you sent a while back
13:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00074535 = 12.0747 BTC [+]
13:06 nubbins` websites like that make me sad
13:06 * mircea_popescu doesn't recall
13:06 nubbins` <mircea_popescu> http://posters.lardbucket.org/ is this the sorriest thing you ever saw or what
13:06 assbot posters.lardbucket.org
13:07 nubbins` boils some poor heel's life down to this shitty little nugget of wasted effort
13:07 mircea_popescu oh oh
13:07 nubbins` and the tagline
13:07 mircea_popescu ikr?
13:07 nubbins` "please don't take my stuff"
13:07 nubbins` IF ONLY WE WANTED TO
13:07 mircea_popescu i'm like... dude i used to make that stuff, in basic, on a z80
13:07 nubbins` right?
13:07 nubbins` could make 60 of these a second
13:08 nubbins` ;p
13:08 mircea_popescu the blessings of a school system with no grades.
13:08 nubbins` but wait dude, you don't understand, he also did that one of the mandelbrot set
13:08 mircea_popescu people get to be 30 and still have no idea they suck
13:08 nubbins` it's recursively shitty
13:09 mircea_popescu i'm sorry, i mean, still have no idea that they wolfgoethe
13:09 nubbins` that they...?
13:09 mircea_popescu it's in the logs
13:10 nubbins` !s *goethe
13:10 assbot Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%2Agoethe
13:10 nubbins` eat shit assbot
13:10 nubbins` oh ahahaha
13:10 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2014#861983
13:10 assbot Logged on 07-10-2014 04:02:22; WolfGoethe: I code web mostly. many platforms. had a few startups. did the napster of Ringtones in 2000. and a few social networking sites. and now working on some bitcoin stuff.
13:11 * nubbins` reads no further
13:11 mircea_popescu it was rather amusing
13:11 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh5X1LcGa9I
13:11 assbot Radioactive emission of Uranium visible to naked eye in a cloud chamber! - YouTube
13:11 mircea_popescu cherenkov ?
13:12 bounce it's blue. snazzy tune though. didn't think it had it in it.
13:12 nubbins` luckily this video has an unskippable ad at the start
13:12 bounce didn't get one of those, but I have a lot of ad-y things blocked here.
13:12 nubbins` ben_vulpes why is this a 35s video instead of a 3s gif?
13:13 nubbins` why is it published by "funny videos"?
13:13 nubbins` i'm sorry, i know you don't have answers
13:13 mircea_popescu the ad ?
13:13 nubbins` nah the actual video
13:13 nubbins` it's looping
13:13 mircea_popescu yes, the actual video. because the ad.
13:13 nubbins` o o o
13:13 nubbins` riiight
13:14 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HmQoW4sJmc
13:14 assbot 'I've made a terrible mistake' - YouTube
13:14 nubbins` from same channel ;/
13:14 mircea_popescu !up sgornick_
13:14 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot sgornick_
13:15 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user sgornick_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=sgornick_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sgornick_ | Rated since: never
13:15 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot sgornick_
13:15 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user sgornick_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=sgornick_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sgornick_ | Rated since: never
13:15 dignork cherenkov - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eHkpUSaVwU
13:15 assbot Nuclear Reactor start up - YouTube
13:15 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot sgornick
13:15 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user sgornick: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=sgornick | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sgornick | Rated since: Thu Dec 2 21:13:08 2010
13:15 bounce ah, the link between the videos is the tune
13:15 mircea_popescu sgornick_ you know you can self up here right ?
13:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00074535 = 3.5777 BTC [+]
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 200 @ 0.12600511 = 25.201 BTC [-] {27}
13:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 95 @ 0.1016202 = 9.6539 BTC [-] {10}
13:26 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bingoboingo cazalla heh check out the furry of attention your little project is getting from our enemies. methinks we;ve struck oil here.
13:26 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:27 mircea_popescu i should probably say "the enemies of a free world, liberty, happiness and generally humanity", but it's kinda lengthy to give these people all their proper titles and indignities.
13:30 nubbins` let them be henceforth known as The Enemies
13:31 mircea_popescu ahhh that govt response to the horowitz declaration
13:31 nubbins` lel http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/10/07/1612226/complain-about-comcast-get-fired-from-your-job
13:31 assbot Complain About Comcast, Get Fired From Your Job - Slashdot
13:31 mircea_popescu "we made it a secret and prosecute anyone disclosing how we infringe rights
13:32 mircea_popescu the law requires someone asking for his rights to be protected to say how his rights were infringed
13:32 mircea_popescu therefore this motion should be dismissed"
13:32 mircea_popescu how do these people even get out of bed in the morning ?
13:32 nubbins` i think they black out their mirrors
13:32 mircea_popescu compartimentalisation only goes so far.
13:32 nubbins` it helps
13:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00074535 = 6.41 BTC [+]
13:34 mircea_popescu and bingo you're doing a bangass job over there! everyone else links the pdf, you put in the text. brownie points.
13:34 mircea_popescu thestringpuller listen, you actually shipping those cookies ?
13:36 nubbins` COOKIE CHIEF
13:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform incidentally, i am curious how many of the references and injokes are actually observable from outside the work
13:38 mircea_popescu and how many random bits are overinterpreted in the quest for the former
13:39 artifexd qntra.net << Awesome DNS
13:40 assbot startup_isninja +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4
13:40 fluffypony Have we discussed David Seaman's proclamation of Bitcoin's demise? I see pete_dushenski spotted it
13:41 mircea_popescu we have not, because we did last time and well, it just seems to encourage this sort of thing
13:41 nubbins` !up startup_isninja
13:41 mircea_popescu anything substantial in there ?
13:41 nubbins` if you're ninjashogun, expect the reverse in a moment
13:41 mircea_popescu !down startup_isninja
13:41 fluffypony Nah
13:41 nubbins` LEL
13:41 mircea_popescu that's ok, i've read enough nonsense today
13:41 fluffypony He basically went on a rant
13:41 mircea_popescu well good for him, and let his mother know
13:41 fluffypony About how Bitcoin is dead because the price went so low
13:41 mircea_popescu who the fuck is the guy even ?
13:42 fluffypony And if it wast dead the price wouldn't go that low
13:42 fluffypony Wasn't
13:42 mircea_popescu yeah, totally. im sure the price for his penis is over 300 bux.
13:42 fluffypony He's a turd, but a hilarious one
13:42 fluffypony Plus his surname is seaman
13:42 fluffypony So theres that
13:42 mircea_popescu i wonder why all the people with shitty names don't get together and make their own country.
13:43 mircea_popescu ben dover's gulch
13:43 fluffypony Lol
13:43 mircea_popescu o, right! because it's a stupid idea! well... nevermind then.
13:43 nubbins` i know a woman with the last name Smellie, true story
13:43 bounce nice and short story
13:43 mircea_popescu i had a dentist in ro, her last name was moustache
13:43 nubbins` the best stories are succinct, yet moving, and oddly telling
13:44 mircea_popescu and with perky tits.
13:44 mircea_popescu nubbins` by the way, know the story of old john cocksucker and his namechange ?
13:45 nubbins` nope. married an italian woman named Bella Fellatoria?
13:45 mircea_popescu lol. nah. he was this guy about fifty, not particularly bight, in fact closer to high functioning retardation
13:46 mircea_popescu that minded his own business, was kinda friendly, and so everyone he knew suggested he do one thing for his future
13:46 mircea_popescu and change that name
13:46 nubbins` sure, yeah
13:46 mircea_popescu so eventually, after much reflection, he did
13:46 mircea_popescu to... george.
13:46 nubbins` HEH
13:46 nubbins` who else, let me see...
13:46 nubbins` there's a spin instructor at the gym named dick barter
13:47 nubbins` i've taken to calling him cock swap
13:47 mircea_popescu ahahaha
13:47 nubbins` (not to his face, he could likely kick me to death)
13:47 nubbins` there was a dope dealer named richard ball
13:48 nubbins` overheard one day: "man, anybody ever call you dick ball?"
13:48 nubbins` stonefaced reply: "no."
13:48 nubbins` awkward silence, question guy leaves w/o another word
13:48 mircea_popescu lol
13:50 mircea_popescu "During the last eighteen months I have not had the good fortune to attend my own funeral, but with that exception I have buried pretty nearly everything I lived for." << wow check out this guy.
13:50 mircea_popescu now that's quality depression.
13:51 thestringpuller nubbins`: the poster still hasn't come :(
13:51 nubbins` A++++ would use to boost own feelings again
13:51 nubbins` thestringpuller :/ let me find a tracking #
13:51 nubbins` did i post this yesterday? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/philip-pynn-averill-baker-shared-passionate-kiss-before-arrest-1.2789028
13:51 assbot Philip Pynn, Averill Baker shared 'passionate kiss' before arrest - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
13:51 thestringpuller thanks nubbins`
13:51 nubbins` this is maybe the most prominent defence lawyer in the province
13:52 mircea_popescu he got arrested ?!
13:52 nubbins` lawyer (she) did not get arrested
13:53 nubbins` her kissy-mate, who had murdered a guy 24h prior, got arrested
13:53 mircea_popescu see, this is why the motherfucking wasps were so wrong.
13:53 mircea_popescu nothing better than women with careers.
13:53 mircea_popescu nicholson famously makes this point on stand once.
13:54 nubbins` thestringpuller: Your item was undeliverable as addressed at 2:51 pm on September 20, 2014 in ATLANTA, GA 30309. It is being returned if appropriate information is available.
13:54 thestringpuller damn it
13:54 thestringpuller nubbins` can you pm me the address that was given to you by the artist?
13:56 mircea_popescu thestringpuller i take that as a no ?
13:56 nubbins` ooooooooo fuck me in the ass, i wrote the P.O. Box number down wrong
13:57 thestringpuller No problem.
13:57 thestringpuller Just lemme know how we resolve this.
13:57 nubbins` let me find the tx, PM me a btc address
13:57 mircea_popescu thickasthieves: like how can a foreign website be illegal? <<< you got an oxymoron problem going there son ?
13:57 nubbins` i'll refund you, that package will likely be destroyed.
13:57 nubbins` :/
13:57 mircea_popescu nubbins` dyslexia strikes a gain ?
13:57 thestringpuller what about the shirts?
13:57 thestringpuller I still want a poster :(
13:57 nubbins` mircea_popescu i almost made the same mistake on the shirts
13:58 nubbins` dysnumeria i guess or w/e it's called
13:58 guruvan never doubt the wisdom of the gribble
13:58 nubbins` thestringpuller shirts will be arriving at proper location
13:58 mircea_popescu guruvan what did it do this time ?
13:58 * guruvan scrolls back down to the present
13:58 thestringpuller guruvan...that name looks familiar
13:58 nubbins` thestringpuller try calling USPS and give them tracking # LM000212190CA
13:58 guruvan failed thickasthieves - told him to buy XBT
13:58 thestringpuller do you comment on trilema?
13:59 nubbins` there's an off-chance it'll still be in a sort facility somewhere.
13:59 mircea_popescu thickasthieves: do ebay servers get hacked when they discover coupon counterfeiters? << no, because ebay servers are already hacked by design, because they use the "proper" software as indicated.
13:59 guruvan thestringpuller: no - but I've been around here a long while - just not much in here for a while
14:00 mircea_popescu bounce: huh, sneaky circular argument there. usg says hoster Ts&Cs allowed for monitoring to no privacy for you! -- but how'd they know what server to monitor, hm? tor ought to've made it unfindable. << they "just knew" heh.
14:00 mircea_popescu but really, this silkroad thing is becoming a major liability for the usg, after having actually crossed the line from gain to liability sometime in spring.
14:00 nubbins` the FBI "just knew" in the sense that an NSA agent walked into their office and said "hey, check out this URL!"
14:01 mircea_popescu making it n-0, retroactively. THEY HAVE YET TO ACTUALLY SCORE ONCE!
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14:01 mircea_popescu and that n is pretty fuckingly scary high, what with the heartbleed headshot and all the other outlays generously handed out by la serenissima.
14:02 bounce well, losing only counts if the judge says it's a loss. if they don't, it's a win.
14:03 mircea_popescu not at all.
14:03 mircea_popescu the embarassment of havcing to answer to it makes it a loss already.
14:03 mircea_popescu fascist government only works if unquestioned.
14:03 mircea_popescu if questioned, no matter what the sops say, it's still a loss.
14:04 mircea_popescu assbot: 7th Heaven Dad Stephen Collins Taped Confessing to Child Sex Abuse <<< holy shit omfg no wai!!1
14:04 mircea_popescu molested 17 yo jessica biel ?! WHERE IS THAT TAPE!
14:04 bounce morally, but the usg doesn't care about that; it figures it's too big to fail
14:05 mircea_popescu yes, but practically the delusions of the players aren't relevant.
14:05 mircea_popescu the game is still played by points.
14:06 mircea_popescu and the points still go n-0.
14:07 bounce but who cares if the bill only comes due well after your pension?
14:07 thestringpuller ;;later tell hanbot good work on the "new" lorax lol
14:07 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:08 mircea_popescu bounce depending on one's age, i wouldn't put much stock in that. i suppose septuagenarians have good cause to be disinterested on these grounds.
14:09 mircea_popescu but anyone else... who cares if the bill comes due just as you're due for pension payments? hm ?
14:09 bounce also depends on your perception. this is perhaps the more cogent point. who's going to be right? well... if we're lucky and they're not a lot of the cogs in the usg are going to feel mightily blindsided.
14:09 mircea_popescu every current usg employee is in direct danger of starvation, once they reach old age. better make some good friends and suck up to the fambly, because the usg won't be here to pick up their tabs.
14:10 mircea_popescu bounce not so.
14:10 mircea_popescu it takes precious little luck for the woodchpper to grind a whole forrest.
14:10 mircea_popescu all it takes is a little time and a coupla determined people.
14:10 mircea_popescu the tools are present.
14:10 Azelphur don't suppose anyone here knows the solution to http://pastebin.com/USqRfYca ?
14:10 assbot $ git commit -S gpg: skipped "Alfie "Azelphur" Day <support@azelphur.com>": sec - Pastebin.com
14:11 mircea_popescu Azelphur you missing the secret key ?
14:11 Azelphur mircea_popescu: that's the part that makes no sense, I shouldn't be, it's the same key I've always used on this machine since the dawn of time, I only have one key, gpg --list-secret-keys shows one key
14:11 Azelphur It shouldn't be*
14:11 bounce perhaps depends on a gpg agent that isn't running or perhaps doesn't have the key loaded
14:12 Azelphur bounce: that's possible, the key does require a passphrase
14:12 mircea_popescu you see why this is not the sort of thing another could help with Azelphur. check the secret keyring ? maybe is there a pinentry involved that fails silently ?
14:12 nubbins` try clearsigning something
14:12 kakobrekla just show us your private key
14:12 mircea_popescu nobody really knows the intricate details of your own "dawn of time" history but you
14:13 Azelphur nubbins`: echo "Hello world" | gpg --clearsign works fine
14:13 nubbins` passwd prompt?
14:13 Azelphur nubbins`: nope
14:13 * nubbins` nods
14:13 bounce well then. time to dig into git for a bit.
14:14 punkman Azelphur: try this: git config --global user.signingkey FFFFFFFF
14:14 guruvan or perhaps the .git/config doesn't
14:14 guruvan have the right key in there?
14:15 Azelphur punkman: thanks, that solved it
14:15 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> http://antilop.cc/sr/files/2014_10_06_Government_Response_To_Horowitz_Declaration.pdf << PHP databases << whether they are or they aren't, that's what the us govt will claim there was. because it's a noncontroversial tech, much like hollywood still shows diskettes in movies to this day.
14:15 mircea_popescu for a bunch of experts that use excel, the controlling factor is to make sure the story's believable.
14:15 nubbins` they do?
14:15 mircea_popescu nubbins` on occasion
14:16 nubbins` interesting, "the net" was the last movie i recall seeing a 3.5"
14:16 nubbins` ;;google the net sandra bullock
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14:16 gribble The Net (1995) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113957/>; The Net (1995 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Net_(1995_film)>; Amazon.com: The Net: Sandra Bullock, Jeremy Northam, Dennis ...: <http://www.amazon.com/The-Net-Sandra-Bullock/dp/0800141768>
14:16 nubbins` 19 years, wow
14:17 mircea_popescu "Snoops" The Stolen Diskette (TV Episode 2000)
14:18 mircea_popescu apparently Live Free or Die Hard (2007) was one of the first films to use the sticks.
14:19 mircea_popescu S1m0ne (2002), has a floppy in there.
14:19 mike_c ooh, SR was using "php databases"
14:19 mircea_popescu and omfg that was an atrociously bad film jesus
14:19 mike_c no wonder it sucked
14:20 mircea_popescu it did ? (i have nfi)
14:20 mike_c "Silk Road’s reliance on PHP databases was readily observable from the website itself during the time of its operation"
14:20 mike_c this is gov't derping from the filing.
14:20 mike_c hopefully such a thing doesn't actually exist.
14:20 mike_c they are just talking about phpmyadmin.
14:20 mircea_popescu thickasthieves: be a real writer and write from Androad with autocorrect << so much win
14:21 mircea_popescu mike_c i wouldn't really take anything the govt says at face value. the derps in that courtroom painfully remind of http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/
14:21 assbot Law enforcement never fails to unintentionally entertain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:23 mike_c oh no, to be clear I am laughing at them.
14:23 thickasthieves the trading chat is all "we'll have one more new low, then moon"
14:23 mircea_popescu o they caught on have they.
14:23 thickasthieves nope
14:23 mircea_popescu i guess I should make a little infographic while at it.
14:24 thickasthieves they missed the low, and now wan to will it into being
14:24 thickasthieves at least that's what the good old rooibos tells me
14:24 mircea_popescu oh oh. lol. shoulda read moar trilema.
14:25 mircea_popescu which chan is this ?
14:25 thickasthieves not a chan sadly, tradingview.com
14:25 thickasthieves the least trollboxy one ive found
14:25 thickasthieves still took a lot of ignores to be decent tho
14:25 fluffypony mmmm, rooibos iced tea with vanilla vodka
14:26 bounce there is only one original trollbox
14:26 fluffypony Such nomos7
14:26 fluffypony FFs, stupid autocorrect
14:27 thickasthieves it's a great website though
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00074535 = 11.4039 BTC [+]
14:28 thickasthieves i should use though less tho
14:29 thestringpuller ;;ticker
14:29 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.33, Best ask: 331.53, Bid-ask spread: 1.20000, Last trade: 331.55, 24 hour volume: 24923.24390781, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 336.99, 24 hour vwap: 327.245791236
14:30 thestringpuller haven't seen fluffypony in awhile
14:37 thickasthieves someone dumped AM1 i see
14:37 thickasthieves bad news?
14:37 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: wow you tore gavin a new one on qntra.
14:38 mircea_popescu nobody forces derps to derp.
14:41 thestringpuller He didn't even respond...caught with his pants down to see that his balls are missing?
14:42 thickasthieves why would he respond?
14:43 thickasthieves he already chose his team
14:43 thestringpuller Team USG!
14:43 thestringpuller USA USA USA!
14:43 thestringpuller so bad. :(
14:45 nubbins` !t h am1
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.10010000 / 0.11865812 / 0.14600000 (303 shares, 35.95341020 BTC), 7D: 0.10000001 / 0.13318606 / 0.19210002 (1622 shares, 216.02778869 BTC), 30D: 0.10000001 / 0.15787022 / 0.26900000 (5077 shares, 801.50712295 BTC)
14:46 thickasthieves bloomberg tv talking about blockchain $30m and btc
14:46 thickasthieves theyll be interviewed too
14:49 nubbins` blockchain.info is a handy enough read-only wallet that i haven't bothered trying any others
14:50 thickasthieves i used it for a bit but stopped
14:52 mircea_popescu they;re one of the lenders, but! i gotta say they parlayed very little into a whole lot. they don't actually have enough btc on hand to justify a 30mn grant.
14:53 thickasthieves i dont understand how you put $30m into a wallet company and take $30m+ back out
14:53 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-how-much-i-rule-today/ << thickasthieves you can tell the tradechats that one :D
14:53 assbot This is how much I rule (today) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:53 mircea_popescu thickasthieves which is why it's called a grant.
14:56 thickasthieves lol they arent ready
14:57 nubbins` oh fuck, wow
14:57 nubbins` earlier today, headline on cbc news website was "freight train operators report falling asleep on job"
14:57 mircea_popescu anyway. baring some sort of miracle, that's that.
14:57 mircea_popescu and miracles are in short supply these days.
14:57 nubbins` all about being overworked, no sleep, etc
14:58 mircea_popescu kinda longstanding problem thios
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 114 @ 0.01059769 = 1.2081 BTC [+] {3}
14:58 nubbins` that's no longer the main headline because we now have BREAKING: Major train derailment near Wadena, Sask.
14:59 thickasthieves ouch
14:59 mircea_popescu ouch
15:04 bounce well, that's one way to spin control
15:05 mircea_popescu bounce how do you mean ?
15:06 bounce eh n'mind.
15:07 mircea_popescu dub: assets is gop sponsored chan << yeah, but the great old party in question is the guelph.
15:07 bounce oh, anhydrous ammonia, "highly toxic" says cnbs. to aquatic animals, says wikipedia.
15:07 thestringpuller what was that article about giving engineers too much money on trilema?
15:08 bounce s/cnbs/cbc/
15:08 thestringpuller ;;google site:trilema.com too much money engineer
15:08 gribble The problem of too much money pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/>; ArsDigita: From Start-Up to Bust-Up - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/arsdigita-greenspun.html>; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/>
15:08 mircea_popescu there you go.
15:10 thestringpuller I wonder if the enemy is lurking on Trilema.
15:12 thickasthieves well after the SEC interaction he probly got on some lists ;)
15:12 fluffypony thestringpuller: I'm around
15:12 chetty they would be fools not to
15:12 fluffypony just been busy
15:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-how-much-i-rule-today/
15:16 rithm roflcopter
15:17 thestringpuller random: is davout still on honeymoon leave?
15:17 mircea_popescu wasnt he here earlier ?
15:18 thickasthieves yeah he said hi and that the honeymoon is over
15:19 mircea_popescu assbot: Press Release October 7, 2014: Bitcoin Foundation Financial Standards Working Group Leads the Way for Mainstream Bitcoin Adoption | The Bitcoin Foundation << they really should stop competing with the onion.
15:19 mircea_popescu fluffypony: it looks like a B getting probed analy <<< would you prefer an octopus ?
15:19 fluffypony mircea_popescu: yes
15:20 mircea_popescu come to thinkj about it me too.
15:20 fluffypony the symbol for Hydra from the Marvel comics would be awesome
15:20 mircea_popescu http://www.whitezine.com/en/motion/octopus-video.html
15:20 assbot Octopus Video | Whitezine | Design Graphic & Photography Inspirations
15:22 mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159692/Womans-mouth-falls-pregnant-squid-biting-sea-creature-scientists-claim.html << better yet lol
15:22 assbot Woman's mouth 'falls pregnant' to twelve squid after biting into sea creature, scientists claim | Daily Mail Online
15:23 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo: No need for a symbol. BTC is fine. People build friendly 'nugh interfaces with BTC << yeahy but then how would vessenes' scam ring issue "press releases" about things and stuff ?
15:24 thickasthieves i was loading some stuff into the fridge earlier and felt like a web or string my neck, so i grabbed and flicked to floor. it was a huge red wasp.
15:24 mircea_popescu those can be dangerous
15:24 thickasthieves just glad it didnt get me
15:24 nubbins` wasps are dickheads
15:25 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: how is XBT better ? << it's great in that it gives btc the occasion to show the entire iso process the door.
15:25 nubbins` bees are bros though
15:26 thickasthieves 'I was in a loving, healthy, great relationship for four years,' she told the magazine. 'It was long distance, and either your boyfriend is going to look at porn or he’s going to look at you.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2783719/Jennifer-Lawrence-speaks-time-nude-photo-leak-Vanity-Fair.html
15:26 assbot Jennifer Lawrence speaks out for the first time about nude photo leak to Vanity Fair | Daily Mail Online
15:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00074535 = 0.8944 BTC [+]
15:26 mircea_popescu well... porn of you, at any rate.
15:26 mircea_popescu these self-righteous cunts. it's porn when other women do it, amirite ?
15:27 mircea_popescu shut up and embrace it. when we want porn, you do porn. when porridge is fashionable you make porrige and if sandwiches come into fashion you make sandwiches. wtf is this.
15:28 thickasthieves also, long-distance is a correctable disposition
15:28 thickasthieves just stop having a career and go home
15:28 BingoBoingo Ebook software can suck too http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/10/07/1725232/adobe-spies-on-users-ebook-libraries
15:28 assbot Adobe Spies On Users' eBook Libraries - Slashdot
15:29 mircea_popescu thickasthieves or stop calling "a career" menial, servant jobs which don't afford you being with your family.
15:29 mircea_popescu that's what motherfucking careers are : lines of work where you can do what you please.
15:29 mircea_popescu doing what you have to is for house servants.
15:29 thickasthieves hallelujah
15:30 bounce "deputy cto", such an interesting job title.
15:31 mircea_popescu thickasthieves: Note that it's ironic that I actually made this purchase by mistake because I thought the "Deposit" button meant , yknow, depositing funds, not exchanging currencies. Your system of dollarifying all numbers is obnoxious. Let people type in bitcoin amounts and understand it as a separate currency. You're just confusing things." <<< they're not JUST confusing things.
15:31 mircea_popescu merely doing what told.
15:31 mircea_popescu bounce that feels like it should have a titty in there.
15:31 BingoBoingo bingoboingo cazalla heh check out the furry of attention your little project is getting from our enemies. methinks we;ve struck oil here. << I think the individual blogs stung from time to time. The concentrated effort on a news as information service scares them.
15:31 thickasthieves when i showed my wife the TBF nonprofit documents she commented "Chief Scientist" is an odd job title for a nonprofit
15:32 mircea_popescu yeah well chief derp didn't sound as exciting to the prospective candidate
15:32 thickasthieves also noted that the exec is actually a paid consultant from a separate company
15:33 thickasthieves not unheard of , but notbale
15:33 thickasthieves i got some good typos today
15:33 mircea_popescu lol
15:34 mircea_popescu anyway, she needn't worry : the third party company is where the siphoned funds are headed. the foundation is just the scamming public front.
15:35 rithm but this is the intertubes, it must be science'd
15:36 thickasthieves she thought ot was the exec title at first, since he's the only guy on payroll
15:36 rithm economics is scientific and mostly theoretical, chief scientist sounds legit on a spaceship
15:36 mircea_popescu rithm your rhymes!
15:37 rithm let's do this next: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8422864
15:37 assbot Build a bank | Hacker News
15:37 rithm whatever that is
15:38 rithm it really time for a bank named triangle, rhombus, trapezoid, or dodecagon
15:38 thickasthieves dogecagon
15:39 mircea_popescu or it could just be called calgon and also fix your washing machine.
15:39 rithm i may be too late for triangle bank
15:39 thickasthieves and fix your depression
15:40 rithm some pills are hexagon, so hexagon bank would operate on new planes of banking
15:40 rithm yeah that depression quote from earlier nearly made me bleed out
15:41 rithm thankfully my secretary found me in time and administered beer
15:41 mircea_popescu these people are out of a parody i swear. every single day. EVERY SINGLE DAY there's a "protest" in buenos aires. bout a hundred or so people gather (50 or so being the same throughout), drum the same tune on perhaps he same drums. each day.
15:41 mircea_popescu it's almost like alternative busking.
15:42 mircea_popescu i wonder who arranges the scheduling for all this.
15:43 rithm #occupy?
15:44 mircea_popescu i like how danielpbarron is -30 on the wot and +5 to assbot
15:44 mircea_popescu if there's ever a need for illustration of the concept of total trust, and it's pointlessness - that's it
15:46 jurov does or will qntra sell adspace?
15:46 mircea_popescu eventually. it's an iffy topic.
15:47 ben_vulpes <nubbins`> !up startup_isninja << lol
15:47 thickasthieves i hope they dont do ads
15:47 thickasthieves i'd rather just pay
15:47 midnightmagic mircea_popescu: is the third-party corp identified yet?
15:47 thickasthieves so tired of ads in my face
15:48 mircea_popescu midnightmagic yeah, ycombinator scamring
15:49 midnightmagic sigh
15:49 mircea_popescu whatever they call the sub in question.
15:49 mircea_popescu midnightmagic judges commonly view through defendants corporate structrurings, if those are intended to mask the real interests in the case.
15:49 mircea_popescu why do you think this'd be any differen ?
15:50 midnightmagic I don't. It's just irritating.
15:57 thickasthieves ;;later tell pankkake bitfetch.com seems dead and i am sad
15:57 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:58 thestringpuller what is bitfetch?
15:59 thickasthieves remote encrypted torrent dwnloader
16:00 thickasthieves you put in a magnet link and it downloads and zips the file for you to download directly, for a small btc fee
16:00 thickasthieves not so small, in hindsight, but yknow
16:01 thestringpuller there was another site like that that was listed on GLBSE
16:01 thestringpuller but i think he got shut down
16:06 mats_cd03 how is it things like that get shut down, but seedbox providers continue to operate?
16:06 jurov how it got shud down?
16:07 jurov *shut
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.12 = 1.08 BTC [-]
16:14 penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/you-cant-have-fun-with-words-in-a-laboratory-environment/
16:15 thickasthieves nice headline "Airbitz’s Touchless Bitcoin Wallet Targets Novices, Evangelists Alike"
16:21 penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/ulbrich-defense-has-48-hours-to-counter-prosecutions-horowitz-rebuttal/
16:21 thickasthieves https://blog.twitter.com/2014/taking-the-fight-for-transparency-to-court
16:21 assbot Taking the fight for #transparency to court | Twitter Blogs
16:24 thestringpuller ulbrich is gonna get off
16:24 thestringpuller thats what she said
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17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.14648977 = 1.4649 BTC [+] {5}
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17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.14789991 = 1.479 BTC [+] {4}
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18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 118 @ 0.11598923 = 13.6867 BTC [-] {6}
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18:28 kakobrekla <Dizzle> hey, how do I use this #bitcoin-assets channel? assbot is down < heh
18:28 kakobrekla down for a minute and i get complaints.
18:31 mthreat kakobrekla: a good sign
18:32 mthreat kakobrekla: no one complains about useless software
18:33 kakobrekla mebbe
18:33 kakobrekla unless forced to use it
18:35 penguirker New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/cavirtex-technical-issue/
18:36 thickasthieves oh man i just made another great typo, discussing how the bearwhale was actually the 'givernment'
18:47 nubbins` <+thickasthieves> dogecagon ,,google bobcaygeon
18:47 nubbins` ,,fail ;(
18:47 nubbins` ;;google bobcaygeon
18:47 gribble Bobcaygeon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcaygeon>; The Tragically Hip - Bobcaygeon - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6QDjDPRF5c>; Bobcaygeon & Area Chamber of Commerce: <http://www.bobcaygeon.org/>
18:48 mats_cd03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaB3Zw5_p9c assange seems to get it
18:48 assbot Julian Assange: Bitcoin is Much More Than Just a Currency - YouTube
19:01 Daniel_Krawisz ;;rate bitstein 10
19:01 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 10 for user bitstein has been recorded.
19:01 Daniel_Krawisz Wups, wrong tab.
19:03 thickasthieves we dont mind in channel ratings
19:03 nubbins` 10!
19:03 thickasthieves 10 would have sex again
19:03 nubbins` 10+++
19:04 kakobrekla i wouldnt give 10 to my mother
19:04 nubbins` ;;rated nanotube
19:04 gribble You rated user nanotube on Tue Aug 12 18:41:45 2014, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: If you don't trust nano....
19:04 kakobrekla maybe a 7 or an 8.
19:05 kakobrekla highest i have given is 8
19:05 thickasthieves would you give 10 to yourself?
19:06 Daniel_Krawisz Ok, well it's reciprocal altruism.
19:06 nubbins` thickasthieves -1 not sure if trust
19:06 kakobrekla thickasthieves dunno im biased
19:06 thickasthieves dpnt be so hard on urself
19:06 nubbins` highest otherwise i've given is 2
19:06 nubbins` i mean, come on
19:06 kakobrekla the '8' is 'know him in real life for 10years+'
19:07 Daniel_Krawisz oh ok. Well I guess we've been using a different convention.
19:07 kakobrekla Daniel_Krawisz feel free to rate 11 if you wanna
19:07 kakobrekla we just talking.
19:07 nubbins` i know plenty of people 10y+ that i don't trust
19:07 nubbins` even the nano rating is a lel, but it's true as well
19:08 kakobrekla nubbins` yeah but time is a nonescapable condition
19:08 Daniel_Krawisz Thanks, I downgraded him to 8.
19:09 bitstein We are still trying to learn the best rating scales for our purposes. Perhaps a 10 is too high, but we want to signal a strong bond between board members of SNI. Moving to an 8.
19:10 Daniel_Krawisz We're actually conjoined twins.
19:10 Daniel_Krawisz So that's a literal strong bond.
19:10 kakobrekla where does it say all members of your thing should have equal ratings to eachother and why
19:11 thickasthieves you dont want to 'signal' anything
19:12 thickasthieves it's ok to trust one board member more than another
19:12 Daniel_Krawisz Well if I'm not supposed to signal anything, then I'll just give everybody random numbers as ratings.
19:12 thickasthieves it helps YOU too to realize and enact this
19:13 kakobrekla for example, i rated mp 3 and he rated me 5, yet we are equal partner in bitbet.
19:13 kakobrekla i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading.
19:13 thickasthieves lol
19:14 Daniel_Krawisz Haha
19:15 bitstein Okay, well as I clearly said, we are still learning. Our ratings will adjust over time. I actually probably need to give Daniel a complex number. A 7i + 6.
19:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00074326 = 3.0474 BTC [-]
19:16 thickasthieves bitstein, we dont actually know whats best, we just talk like it
19:19 Daniel_Krawisz It's a good way to establish a dominance hierarchy.
19:19 bitstein Word. I’d definitely be interested to learn how different people have thought through their ratings scale, though.
19:20 danielpbarron i think of it as an exponential thing -- not sure what the base is
19:21 thickasthieves ;;market sell 5000
19:22 gribble Bitstamp | A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 1575560.1919 USD and would take the last price down to 297.7100 USD, resulting in an average price of 315.1120 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0388 seconds
19:22 thickasthieves stampers arent out of money yet
19:24 bitstein danielpbarron: This. This is the base. http://youtu.be/eyPZFi2b380?t=3m16s
19:24 assbot Josey Wales "Nothing Extra" - YouTube
19:24 bitstein ^ That is how I view the WoT.
19:27 mats_cd03 https://www.tmz.com/2014/10/07/stephen-collins-child-molestation-7th-heaven-audio-tape-nypd-investigation
19:27 assbot '7th Heaven' Dad Stephen Collins - Confesses on Tape to Child Molestation ... NYPD Investigating | TMZ.com
19:30 Daniel_Krawisz Gang's all here now.
19:34 mats_cd03 what of Mr. Wilson?
19:34 Daniel_Krawisz We broke his window with a baseball.
19:35 mats_cd03 guess you'll have to call tim the tool man
19:37 Daniel_Krawisz So I'm curious as to why mercea_popescu has been saying that an increased block size is a security problem. What's the issue here?
19:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25508 @ 0.0007459 = 19.0264 BTC [+] {2}
19:40 thickasthieves ;;ticker
19:40 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 332.93, Best ask: 333.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 332.92, 24 hour volume: 22642.94964933, 24 hour low: 312.37, 24 hour high: 336.99, 24 hour vwap: 326.71802822
19:41 thickasthieves rise!
19:41 Daniel_Krawisz So I'm curious as to why mircea_popescu has been saying that an increased block size is a security problem. What's the issue here? (sorry, I suck at spelling)
19:42 danielpbarron Daniel_Krawisz, bigger blocks, fewer full nodes, less decentralizedness
19:42 thickasthieves it's ever-increasing, increased the burden on nodes, and places pressure on the one leg of bitcoin that isnt properly compensated
19:42 Daniel_Krawisz Oh, ok. Yeah, something needs to be done about that but I think it's a solvable problem.
19:43 thickasthieves i'm having no part in a fork tho
19:43 thickasthieves we built this city on rock n roll
19:44 Daniel_Krawisz Me neither. I would rather see the block size go up. If that creates a crisis of not enough full notes, then people are going to do something about that pretty quick I'd guess.
19:45 thestringpuller ;;gettrust Daniel_Krawisz
19:45 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Daniel_Krawisz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Daniel_Krawisz | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Daniel_Krawisz | Rated since: never
19:45 Daniel_Krawisz I logged in with the wrong name accidentally. It should be DanielKrawisz
19:45 thestringpuller ;;gettrust DanielKrawisz
19:45 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Daniel_Krawisz!~dragonfly@50.97.94.39-static.reverse.softlayer.com. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user DanielKrawisz: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=DanielKrawisz | WoT data: (1 more message)
19:46 danielpbarron Daniel_Krawisz, type /nick DanielKrawisz
19:46 DanielKrawisz Thanks.
19:47 mike_c i bought a 4tb hdd for $190 the other day.
19:48 mats_cd03 !s rubber hose cryptanalysis
19:48 assbot 3 results for 'rubber hose cryptanalysis' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=rubber+hose+cryptanalysis
19:48 danielpbarron as to the conversation regarding BTC or XBC, a suitable symbol is '$' because, screw the dollar
19:49 Pierre_Rochard ;;rate DanielKrawisz 5 excellent writer who can’t spell - SNI compadre
19:49 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 5 for user DanielKrawisz has been recorded.
19:50 Pierre_Rochard ;;rate bitstein 5 knows how to code, has a nose for scammers - SNI compadre
19:50 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user bitstein has changed from 10 to 5.
19:51 DanielKrawisz Wow, major downgrade.
19:51 bitstein I’m half the man I used to be.
19:51 napedia ;;rate DanielKrawisz 5 Altcoin Hitler
19:52 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 5 for user DanielKrawisz has been recorded.
19:52 danielpbarron ;;rate Pierre_Rochard 1 https://twitter.com/Pierre_Rochard
19:52 assbot Pierre Rochard (@Pierre_Rochard) | Twitter
19:52 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Pierre_Rochard has been recorded.
19:52 Pierre_Rochard DanielKrawisz: I lost trust in humanity as a whole, it’s nothing personal
19:52 bitstein Pierre_Rochard is the David Seaman of SNI.
19:53 Pierre_Rochard ;;rate danielpbarron 1 I know my tweets are good when he favorites them https://twitter.com/danielpbarron
19:53 assbot Daniel P. Barron (@danielpbarron) | Twitter
19:53 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.
19:55 danielpbarron <3
19:56 bitstein ;;rate danielpbarron 1 encourages my self-flagellation https://twitter.com/danielpbarron
19:56 assbot Daniel P. Barron (@danielpbarron) | Twitter
19:56 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.
19:56 penguirker New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/
19:58 kakobrekla !s sni
19:58 assbot 7 results for 'sni' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sni
19:59 thickasthieves excuse my ignorance, but cant the node cost problem be solved simply by running pay-node businesses?
19:59 bitstein kakobrekla: this is a better search - http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nakamoto+institute
19:59 assbot 23 results for 'nakamoto institute' - #bitcoin-assets search
19:59 thickasthieves like send 1000sat and your tx will get relayed
20:00 thickasthieves even better, send one ATC
20:00 thickasthieves nodecoin
20:00 thickasthieves i dunno
20:02 danielpbarron thickasthieves, i had that idea too
20:02 danielpbarron simple html form with a text blob and submit button
20:02 danielpbarron paste raw tx hex
20:02 thickasthieves i kinda wonder if this might be an actual use for an altcoin though
20:02 thickasthieves that way there is a symbiosis
20:03 danielpbarron if no node fee, tx is ignored
20:03 thickasthieves you could even charge by the size
20:04 DanielKrawisz Yeah, nodes should be able to use micropayments to charge one another for data.
20:04 thickasthieves but you dont need to fork bitcoin or whatever to do it
20:04 thickasthieves just do it
20:11 Pierre_Rochard ;;rate napedia 5 I know where he lives. A right and honorable denizen of the net
20:11 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 5 for user napedia has been recorded.
20:17 danielpbarron this is like a gpg key signing party, only it's not pointless
20:18 bitstein ;;rate napedia 5 ATX BTC Meetup - Very privileged
20:18 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user napedia has changed from 6 to 5.
20:19 bitstein ;;rate pierre_rochard 5 Crypto-Seneca of SNI
20:19 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user pierre_rochard has changed from 8 to 5.
20:26 bitstein ;;rate danielkrawisz 5 Maharishi of SNI
20:26 gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
20:28 danielpbarron you don't have to reconnect to re-auth
20:29 danielpbarron now you gone lost yer voice
20:29 princessnell atx is repping strong 2nite
20:30 bitstein ATX is the Vienna of Crypto-Anarchy
20:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00074402 = 8.3702 BTC [-] {2}
20:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38343 @ 0.00074227 = 28.4609 BTC [-] {3}
20:50 asciilifeform http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/01/why-hasnt-the-u-s-closed-its-airports-to-travelers-from-ebola-ravaged-countries << mega-lol. nato world tired of living?
20:50 assbot Why hasn’t the U.S. closed its airports to travelers from Ebola-ravaged countries? - The Washington Post
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21:27 decimation asciilifeform: it's more important to cater to democrat votebanks than to protect the general population from ebola
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.14999998 = 1.05 BTC [+] {2}
21:31 decimation dub: assets is gop sponsored chan << quote from gigantic comment thread in the red/blue post: "You shouldn’t be worried more people of the Red Tribe will start voting for Republicans, Republicans are your best friends, they pacify the Red Tribe. You should be worried when they stop voting Republican and your civil society fractures."
21:46 decimation http://flowingdata.com/2014/02/05/where-people-run/ << wow, no one jogs through anacostia, I'm shocked
21:46 assbot Where People Run in Major Cities
21:47 decimation in 1918 usg policy was to stop border transit in case of disease: http://www.isegoria.net/2014/10/disaster-in-the-south-pacific/
21:47 assbot Disaster in the South Pacific « Isegoria
21:50 mats_cd03 public health policy in the us is good enough to handle ebola
21:51 decimation ebola is ok for you
21:52 mats_cd03 id live
21:52 mats_cd03 sounds like excellent population control
21:53 asciilifeform mats_cd03: in exactly the same way amputation is good weight control
21:53 asciilifeform 'lose weight, shed limbs!' < how i always read the spam slogan 'lose weight, shed lbs'
21:54 TheNewDeal I don't want to lose that much!
21:58 mats_cd03 well its not like youll get america to eat salad instead of burgers
21:59 TheNewDeal Speaking of which, I was eating a salad in front of a colleague, and he decided to be healthy he was going to not eat the bun on his burger
21:59 TheNewDeal I consider that a decent step forward
22:04 TheNewDeal but then again the salads at most places in the US aren't even healthy themselves. Covered with cheese, think mayo based "dressing," and a bunch of crutons
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22:19 mats_cd03 call me when you get him to trade the patty for gluten
22:24 asciilifeform mr. ebama - spreading obola.
22:26 dub decimation: I don't really consider teh US as having a political system
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.00003943 = 0.5915 BTC [-] {5}
22:28 decimation dub: at best it is a one party system
22:28 dub you have a Guiding Hand whose system elects temporary emperors in a way designed to obfuscate it from the herd
22:29 decimation Mr. Hand also guides the opposition into safe pasture
22:29 dub liberal and conservate don't mean anything more than libertarian does
22:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 22257 @ 0.00003613 = 0.8041 BTC [-] {18}
22:30 TheNewDeal they're somewhat descriptive filters, especially when considering usian politics
22:30 TheNewDeal not ideal, but they at least serve some purpose
22:30 decimation those words are quite meaningful and apply broadly
22:31 decimation it's just that the parties to which those labels are applied rarely act in any other way than the status quo
22:31 TheNewDeal I do agree with the US being a one party though
22:31 decimation lol
22:32 * decimation is known as eth5434356475907977648659
22:32 TheNewDeal nice
22:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 70000 @ 0.00003081 = 2.1567 BTC [-] {18}
22:35 asciilifeform eth3 << lol!
22:36 decimation actually the democrats/republicans are quite distinguishable and serve different purposes
22:36 dub has your air gap failed?
22:37 decimation democrats attempt to get more free stuff from productive people to their interested constituencies
22:37 asciilifeform incidentally, that crap gets magicked away when you zap 'udev' (actually, the name - under modern gentoo - now refers to a satanic udev-systemd - and replace with 'eudev'.
22:37 asciilifeform (at least on the box in question)
22:37 TheNewDeal decimation , many conservatives do this as well
22:37 decimation republicans quell dissent by speaking against further handouts in public and in private slowrolling/diverting handouts to their own feeble interests
22:39 decimation asciilifeform: I was going to make this point yesterday: you drive a stake in the heart of systemd because you prefer... bash?
22:39 asciilifeform prefer bash ?
22:40 decimation classic init
22:40 asciilifeform i prefer a goose feather pen and ink from tree bark - if that is the only way to be rid of poettering.
22:40 * asciilifeform does not buy forced dichotomy here
22:41 decimation my point being that bash's shaky foundation has recently been revealed
22:41 decimation that being said, I agree that init.d has way more miles than whatever craziness poettering is pushing
22:41 decimation in either case, modern computing sucks
22:42 dub ah yes, udev was the thing
22:42 asciilifeform 'the hunchback will be straightened by his grave.' (ru. saying.)
22:42 decimation hehe
22:43 decimation so eudev restores the sane default of eth#
22:44 asciilifeform actually atm not 100% sure if it's eudev, or patch to config of original (satanic) variant
22:44 asciilifeform anyone who gives a damn, invited to test the question.
22:44 asciilifeform (anyone other than me?...)
22:44 dub bit me hard back when rolling my own routers made sense, suddenly no way to predict which if was what on boot
22:44 decimation googling around, I find many bewildered sysadmins who care
22:44 dub !up jayk
22:45 * asciilifeform wishes he had time to investigate why manual described 'eudev' as 'a fork of system-udev'
22:45 dub someone?
22:45 decimation as I wrote yesterday, one can always write a script to explore /sys/ if one wishes to understand how their devices are laid out
22:45 asciilifeform dub: rolling own routers makes sense now. and even more sense yesterday.
22:46 decimation I remember running a nat on my old 486 with slackware
22:47 kakobrekla !up jayk ?
22:50 decimation princessnell: how goes the blogging these days?
23:01 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu a modern u.s. schoolboy may or may not get references like 'tammany bees' - sure.
23:01 gribble The operation succeeded.
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23:27 mircea_popescu more to it than that asciilifeform :D
23:29 mircea_popescu !up jayk
23:29 jayk ty
23:29 mircea_popescu sure.
23:38 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: down for a minute and i get complaints. << depending on the recipient's age, going down for one minute may be all it takes.
23:40 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: i wouldnt give 10 to my mother << you don't know her like we do :D
23:43 mircea_popescu ;;later tell Daniel_Krawisz http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ "It is important to remember that the score associated to a relationship does not mark the direct trust of the scorer for the scoree, but merely the scorer’s confidence that the information he has about scoree is correct, accurate, relevant and complete. All four."
23:43 assbot What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
23:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:44 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: i really trust him with 6 but motherfucker is already leading. << bwahahaha WAY AHEAD
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23:47 mircea_popescu Daniel_Krawisz: Me neither. I would rather see the block size go up. If that creates a crisis of not enough full notes, then people are going to do something about that pretty quick I'd guess. <<< yeah, sure they will. specifically, sink the bitcoin lite resulting from the fork and sticking to the original.
23:48 mircea_popescu thickasthieves: excuse my ignorance, but cant the node cost problem be solved simply by running pay-node businesses? << zipf problem.
23:53 mircea_popescu http://contravex.com/2014/10/07/how-a-bigger-blockchain-is-less-secure-and-why-block-size-aint-gonna-increase-any-time-soon/#comment-29533 << gotta appreciate usgavin's dedication
23:53 assbot How A Bigger Blockchain Is Less Secure And Why Block Size Ain’t Gonna Increase Any Time Soon | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
23:53 mircea_popescu he's almost ninjashogun level, the way he goes everywhere, trying a pass or two of the same spun content.
23:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: mega-lol. nato world tired of living? << from what i gather a little bit of epidemic doesn't look so bad up top. nice profits for pharma, might even get the country outta recession.
23:59 asciilifeform naturally.
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