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00:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.0007444 = 13.0642 BTC [-] {3}
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00:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27470 @ 0.00074524 = 20.4717 BTC [+] {2}
00:33 Vexual I was just thinking about lobbying the senate comittee into bc
00:34 Vexual •nevermind
00:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1330 @ 0.00074731 = 0.9939 BTC [+]
00:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5980 @ 0.00074162 = 4.4349 BTC [-] {2}
00:41 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
00:41 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 364.12, Best ask: 364.87, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 364.73, 24 hour volume: 21160.34002102, 24 hour low: 353.75, 24 hour high: 378.11, 24 hour vwap: 376.631827325
00:45 mircea_popescu https://europeanequities.nyx.com/en/content/alexei-v-moiseev-deputy-finance-minister-russian-federation << the phonetics are pretty lulzy.
00:45 assbot Alexei V. Moiseev Deputy Finance Minister of the Russian Federation | Euronext
00:45 mircea_popescu From 07.1998 to 07.2001 – economist-senior analyst of the market of sovereign instruments in the Department of operations on the market of instruments with fixed rate of return Bank of Pariba, London, Great Britain
00:45 mircea_popescu From 07.2001 to 09.2010 – senior economist, deputy head of Analitic department of «Renessans Capital – Financial Consultant»
00:45 mircea_popescu paribas and renaissance, respectively.
00:47 Vexual friend to pussyriot
00:51 decimation old Republicans see the truth, can do nothing about it: http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-forever-war/
00:51 assbot The Forever War - The Unz Review
00:52 decimation and http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/war-drums-along-the-potomac/ "Given our horrified and hyperbolic reaction, ISIS can credibly make this boast to the jihadists from Nigeria to the Hindu Kush, from Libya to Iraq, from Somalia to Syria:
00:52 assbot War Drums Along the Potomac - The Unz Review
00:52 decimation “ISIS is the enemy the Great Satan fears and hates most. ISIS is the Islamist organization that strikes fear into NATO. Not al-Qaida, not Boko Haram, not Ansar al-Sharia, not the al Nusra Front — ISIS."
00:54 mircea_popescu lol. as if.
00:54 mircea_popescu narcissus can't quite represent the river in any other terms than the great honor of having reflected his divine beauty ?
00:56 decimation you told me a few hours ago that third world derps are easily impressed/swayed, seems to me that whatever bs cnn is pimping would carry sway with the third world masses
00:57 Dimsler who gives a fuck about the third world masses?
00:57 decimation third world chieftains
00:57 Dimsler coalition of the willing
00:57 mircea_popescu decimation "to the jihadists" ?
00:57 mircea_popescu i think you've mixed the persons.
00:58 mircea_popescu unless you mean specifically the al-sauds, but really, one doesn't need to tell them who strikes fear in the us.
00:58 decimation well you have a point there
00:58 mircea_popescu they know.
00:59 decimation it's true that cnn's bs won't sway that hardened jihadis, but it will carry sway with n00bs who just want to shoot somebody, ie cannon fodder
00:59 mircea_popescu you mean people who don't speak english ?
01:00 decimation all they need to know is that the great satan hates isis
01:00 Dimsler are you seriously saying that CNN has any form of sway
01:00 mircea_popescu they don't need cnn for that.
01:00 Dimsler in any type of government politics
01:00 mircea_popescu or, for that matter, the great satan altogether.
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01:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50111 @ 0.00074766 = 37.466 BTC [+] {4}
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01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13349 @ 0.00074827 = 9.9887 BTC [+] {2}
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02:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00074132 = 5.7452 BTC [-] {2}
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02:41 fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXJDBp0yW1A
02:41 assbot THIS VIDEO WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE - YouTube
02:42 Vexual oooh... click
02:42 Vexual meh fuck you
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03:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00074368 = 14.4646 BTC [+] {2}
03:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00074163 = 6.0072 BTC [-]
03:23 Vexual ;;het gribble compare the bc tarde volume attributed to hk from the last 6 hours to the last siz days
03:23 gribble Error: "het" is not a valid command.
03:27 Vexual 46 32 het het het
03:27 Vexual whoops i was looking at aussie dollars
03:30 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7luCkBUtj_M a rand in the hand is worth two in the bush
03:35 Vexual when the lips are gone, the teeth will grow cold
03:37 Vexual if anyone can explain the cantonese extrusions of that, i'd appreciate it
03:38 fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhVwBESulM
03:38 assbot Bitcoin Users In A Nutshell - YouTube
03:38 Vexual if thats austin powers, ill slap you
03:42 dub lol thats great
03:42 dub mark is the best
03:43 Vexual yeah you're not supposed t make fun of autistic people
03:44 dub fuck autistic people
03:45 Vexual i don;t think is mom is a phrichiatrist anyway
03:46 Vexual [microscope] nope , it's fail
03:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55300 @ 0.00074085 = 40.969 BTC [-] {4}
03:49 Vexual but if you are autistic, you should be good at computers, and stealing
03:49 Vexual thanks mom
03:57 Vexual let the lawyer talk mom
03:58 Vexual you don't need to train to be a ninja
04:00 Vexual enter: old french lady with nunchaku
04:01 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OpmHeB5fV4
04:04 Vexual !up KS
04:04 Vexual will someone, im to fat to pass the doorbitch
04:05 Vexual oh no it work, just doesn't report
04:07 Vexual no, balnks
04:12 Vexual speaking of dislexia and usbs
04:13 Vexual late one night i bought some things for my ebay shop
04:13 Vexual 4-6 weeks later i didn't realize how drunk i'd been
04:15 dub you bougth bfl asics
04:15 Vexual no some big arse airconditioners
04:20 Vexual the delivery guy got an earful
04:21 Vexual now i sign for anything, i made a packet
04:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19515 @ 0.00074006 = 14.4423 BTC [-] {2}
04:35 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZcSLWEQUyY black sails new season coming soon
04:37 cazalla oh great, when did that start Vexual, i love shit like hornblower
04:38 Vexual dont think season two has yet
04:38 Vexual oh the first? last year
04:39 cazalla is it any good?
04:39 Vexual it's excellent
04:41 Vexual supposedly a prequal to treasure island
04:44 thickasthieves ;;ticker
04:44 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 352.22, Best ask: 352.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 352.22, 24 hour volume: 22063.26249460, 24 hour low: 352.22, 24 hour high: 377.6, 24 hour vwap: 377.37448167
04:45 punkman there goes my 350 bet
04:45 punkman I wanted to believe!
04:46 Vexual you should'a told me
04:46 punkman ;;bc,xau
04:46 gribble 1 XAU = 1191.700000000000 USD = 3.3832046332 BTC
04:47 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMSoo4B2hFU
04:47 assbot Black Sails OST - Theme from Black Sails - YouTube
04:47 punkman love the hurdy gurdy
04:51 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypuaJLHK_LQ
04:51 assbot Omen - Guilhem Desq (Hurdy Gurdy) - YouTube
04:51 Vexual you'll have it in spades
04:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14461 @ 0.0007406 = 10.7098 BTC [+]
04:58 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZcSLWEQUyY
04:58 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk
05:05 Vexual all the hong kong kids are on the strret tonight
05:06 Vexual nnone runs a trading bot without watching it
05:06 dub can't wait to see the tanks start rolling over them
05:06 Vexual i doubt that, it's all very polite
05:07 dub not in the mainland
05:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00074002 = 14.5044 BTC [-] {2}
05:08 dub 'unnacceptable display of disloyalty to the motherland, ps murica you can stfu about it'
05:09 dub best case tianammen 2.0 and birds inbound to washington
05:10 Vexual like the wot these kids know about history
05:11 Vexual theyre trading bitcoin and doing social media and all kinds of groovey things
05:15 Vexual students in tianammen went to a very different university
05:19 Vexual they prolly took hal their classes in english
05:19 Vexual if fact the english is prolly better than th emandarin
05:21 Vexual however theyve never met the secret police
05:21 dub and now the invite the evils of democracy
05:21 dub you\re not really helping the case
05:22 Vexual whats wrong with democracy?
05:22 Vexual i dont help shit
05:22 dub whats right with it?
05:23 Vexual well i can feel like im part of something bigger with my mind as well as my input
05:23 Vexual and i dont have to hide my favourite cow
05:24 dub theres no such thing as democracy in practise, only americancy
05:24 dub which is a cancer
05:25 dub whats needed is some chinese radiotherapy
05:25 Vexual perhaps you're right
05:26 Vexual me, i like hearing my keyboard click
05:26 dub that just makes you a hipster
05:26 Vexual if im a hipster...
05:26 Vexual wait what?
05:28 Vexual hk is effective a different country
05:29 Vexual the inout is kinda onesided
05:31 Vexual all i know is they cut a nice suit on the way to macau
05:33 Vexual and if 20k kids want something, don't send 6 fuckwits
05:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11411 @ 0.00074001 = 8.4443 BTC [-]
05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45089 @ 0.00074019 = 33.3744 BTC [+] {3}
05:46 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA jazzy jeff and the fresh prince, summerime
05:56 thickasthieves i had the cassette
05:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2186 @ 0.00074163 = 1.6212 BTC [+]
05:59 Vexual oh yes
05:59 dub the double one?
05:59 Vexual mine was on a mixtape
06:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26007 @ 0.00074567 = 19.3926 BTC [+] {3}
06:02 Vexual trice dubbed
06:07 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1plPyJdXKIY regulators
06:11 dub fuck outta here clean version
06:13 Vexual was it?
06:14 penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/altcoin-exchange-cryptsy-partners-with-vogogo-and-digital-btc/
06:14 dub i need this in the whip
06:16 Vexual big vern and zt
06:18 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng1uKhl61LQ
06:19 Vexual ^i got five on it
06:32 xanthyos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XduMMteTEbc
06:32 assbot Bill Maher and Ben Affleck Battle Over Radical Islam - " They Will F*cking Kill You! " - YouTube
06:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38650 @ 0.00074638 = 28.8476 BTC [+] {3}
06:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00074721 = 5.5667 BTC [+]
06:56 danielpbarron the democratic party returns to its jingoist pro-war roots
07:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00074538 = 22.0632 BTC [-]
07:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35176 @ 0.00074739 = 26.2902 BTC [+] {2}
07:23 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EmD32AQzaQ fancy
07:30 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4sDn89P04 intermission
07:34 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXWvKDSwvls joe walsh lifes been good
07:36 Vexual when do i get to talk to riso?
07:37 Vexual encino man
07:41 Vexual delicate flower he is
07:46 Vexual yah can't put losing a pussy riot subscription on your resume
07:47 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY
07:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00074502 = 5.7367 BTC [-] {2}
07:53 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDLeo4lcCg last of the V8s
07:59 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSodCuo73ig motorhead brotherhood of man
08:05 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIWfCDpSWc motorhead one more fucking time
08:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00074222 = 9.8715 BTC [-] {2}
08:12 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-3ECY9-7e4 inner circle tear down these walls
08:15 thickasthieves ;;ticker
08:15 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 347.0, Best ask: 348.09, Bid-ask spread: 1.09000, Last trade: 347.0, 24 hour volume: 23710.17192233, 24 hour low: 346.5, 24 hour high: 373.62, 24 hour vwap: 0
08:16 Vexual shit
08:17 mats_cd03 damn
08:17 mats_cd03 :(
08:18 mats_cd03 http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/bitcoin-to-drop-under-350-before-november
08:18 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November :: 94.14 B (80%) on Yes, 23.94 B (20%) on No | closing in 6 days 11 hours | weight: 15`840 (100`000 to 1)
08:18 Vexual lol
08:18 mats_cd03 lost mah bitcoins
08:19 Vexual long way to november
08:21 Vexual 6 and 6 parts of a dozen and then six parts of that, half of six again, ass one sixth
08:21 Vexual ;;8ball
08:21 gribble The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
08:24 Vexual http://vimeo.com/61341838 isis bob dylan 1976
08:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00074812 = 17.2068 BTC [+] {4}
08:35 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RPkJeziNyI thunder on the mountain bob dylan 2006
08:43 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyMXhNoyEtg corrina corinna bob dylan et all 1928-1968
08:49 Vexual bob dylans blues circa 62 are stil rarer on youtube circe 2014 than van morrison on youtube circa 21010
08:51 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lFxGBB4UGU van morrison moondance 1970
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28120 @ 0.00074527 = 20.957 BTC [-] {2}
08:58 Vexual 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbwivaZoqAM oh here it is bob dylans blues 1962, not 212
09:03 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxuHQPMD7AE percy p put it on the line 2005
09:09 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dly6p4Fu5TE jennifer lopez jenny from the block 2002
09:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4390 @ 0.00074853 = 3.286 BTC [+]
09:14 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soEjX2YD3yM king kapisi screams from the old plantation 2000
09:21 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDyUcmoIkl0 black seeds so true 2004
09:27 kakobrekla <mats_cd03> http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/bitcoin-to-drop-under-350-before-november < jesus all the leeches :(
09:27 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November :: 94.14 B (80%) on Yes, 23.94 B (20%) on No | closing in 6 days 10 hours | weight: 15`722 (100`000 to 1)
09:30 Vexual whaddaya mean leeches?
09:30 thickasthieves i linked the bet to tradingview chat when it broke 360
09:30 thickasthieves :)
09:30 Apocalyptic people betting after the fact occured
09:30 Vexual how does that affect others? im not versed in bitbet
09:31 thickasthieves it just means they submitted bets close to the wire, and some after the wire
09:31 thickasthieves which i think just get refunded
09:31 thickasthieves unless the bet is closed
09:31 thickasthieves then they are kept
09:32 thickasthieves correct me if i'm wrong
09:32 Vexual but it's not closed
09:32 thickasthieves well why not
09:32 thickasthieves !
09:32 Apocalyptic !!1!
09:33 Apocalyptic Vexual, doesn't matter
09:33 thickasthieves it broke like 90min ago i think
09:34 Vexual oh im bots off
09:34 Vexual rhum and all yo usee
09:34 Vexual my dark and stormys only have black rhum
09:35 Vexual dang
09:37 Vexual http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stephen+Hung+Front+Row+Stephane+Rolland+Show+v_dUbEvHiN_l.jpg
09:42 Vexual images like dooglas countin clams
09:43 Vexual eleventeen exchanges cant be wrong
09:47 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPo7yl-qArA high low
09:52 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92g7LKkZ1I maniacs
10:04 Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNDAkMgTANg
10:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1910 @ 0.00074424 = 1.4215 BTC [-]
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10:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15913 @ 0.0007458 = 11.8679 BTC [+] {2}
10:24 kakobrekla ;;bc,xau
10:24 gribble 1 XAU = 1191.700000000000 USD = 3.44680974142 BTC
10:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3939 @ 0.00074925 = 2.9513 BTC [+]
10:40 mircea_popescu <Dimsler> who gives a fuck about the third world masses? << well, at the very least they do. but otherwise, people like anyone else, what, you think the conventional splits of the world become a thing of the world itself ?
10:41 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
10:41 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 346.65, Best ask: 347.86, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 347.87, 24 hour volume: 20245.98463805, 24 hour low: 345.57, 24 hour high: 370.99, 24 hour vwap: 0
10:41 mircea_popescu ding
10:45 kakobrekla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E
10:45 assbot Welcome to Life: the singularity, ruined by lawyers - YouTube
10:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00074528 = 2.1986 BTC [-]
10:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16365 @ 0.00074925 = 12.2615 BTC [+] {2}
10:51 mircea_popescu o god.
10:55 mircea_popescu http://www.forbes.com/sites/irswatch/2014/10/03/are-virtual-currencies-the-next-offshore-bank-account-for-tax-evaders/
10:55 assbot Are Virtual Currencies The Next Offshore Bank Account for Tax Evaders? - Forbes
10:55 mircea_popescu methinks teh bureaucrats have figured out they can't beat it and they can't buy it.
10:56 kakobrekla save 20% on taxes while lose 50 value
10:56 kakobrekla good deal
10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00074528 = 7.9 BTC [-]
10:57 mircea_popescu tax evasion is a 20 to 50 year game plan.
10:57 mircea_popescu ye, about twice the lifespan of most governments
10:58 kakobrekla heh
10:59 mircea_popescu tax evasion is all about a)ensuring your own revenue from back in the day you generate revenue, your 20s and 30s, is available to you when you need it, ie your 60s and 70s and b) making sure the fortune you collected will reach the biologic offspring of your choice, rather than the offspring others would prefer.
10:59 mircea_popescu both of these being, of course, quite reasonable goals.
11:03 thickasthieves and the government's lifeline is preventing you from that
11:04 mircea_popescu not necessarily, no. in fact, the government's lifeline is supporting that.
11:04 mircea_popescu the socialist totalitarian state however, can't exist except by stealing from the producers to support the parasites.
11:04 mircea_popescu if it manages to get a cycle going it can for a time overpower legitimate government.
11:05 thickasthieves why is it that states can offer lotto tickets but gambling is illegal mostly?
11:05 mircea_popescu that cycle depends on successfully misrepresenting itself as a legitimate government to the producers, and sufficiently empowering the parasites as to maintain it in power.
11:05 mircea_popescu which is why other than the money supply, socialist totalitarian governments aim for a monopoly in communication and for a particular corrupt rendition of democracy.
11:07 mircea_popescu STS, not a bad acronym.
11:07 mircea_popescu i suppose if the "community" wasn't mostly composed of retards, i'd be sponsoring a USG=STS grafitti campaign all over the 50 contiguous states.
11:07 mircea_popescu a well.
11:07 thickasthieves sugar tongue slim
11:08 mircea_popescu yeahimsure.
11:10 thickasthieves "For those that follow S.T.S., you probably know his 3 favorite things, WOMEN, WEED, and what to WEAR. "
11:10 mircea_popescu dude srsly ? what's this, glam rap ?
11:11 thickasthieves he's a saint compared to others
11:12 mircea_popescu so you're telling me i could have a rap video produced consisting of sketchy looking black males derping all about how badass they are while being naked and fucking themselves with anal stretchers ?
11:13 mircea_popescu jesus shit i wanna do this now.
11:13 thickasthieves did you hear the gay rapper?
11:13 mircea_popescu that thing's come full circle, it's now gaygsta raep
11:13 thickasthieves (separately, this is the only reason I liek STS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Ie4CcTGKY)
11:13 assbot STS 16 - BONUS STSisGOLD [Prod. by BearOne] - YouTube
11:14 thickasthieves and for your viewing pleasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c4jpGG8ew8
11:14 assbot The Gayest Song Of All Time Gay Rapper " Fly Young Red " Music Video Throw That Boy Pxssy " - YouTube
11:14 mircea_popescu so formulaic.
11:15 thickasthieves i just like the groove of that whole sts song
11:15 mircea_popescu thickasthieves so basically he's trying to be that white guy, what's his name ? the short one
11:15 thickasthieves eminem?
11:15 mircea_popescu yea
11:15 thickasthieves most rappers are at least keeping tabs on him
11:15 mircea_popescu heh.
11:15 thickasthieves he's pretty much the king
11:15 thickasthieves but most dont like to say so
11:16 mircea_popescu isn't that a little ironic incidentally ? lol
11:16 thickasthieves like Elvis
11:17 mircea_popescu yea but elvis was talented.
11:17 thickasthieves eminem is quite talented in that context
11:17 mircea_popescu why is this fly young dood even talking, he can't rap or anything
11:17 mircea_popescu now how do you figure that ?!
11:17 thickasthieves eminem is like the only guy that can do it all
11:18 mircea_popescu i mean sure, he's talented in the sense that he doesn't audibly wheeze like this vocational school reject here.
11:18 thickasthieves freestyle, compose, battle, perform
11:18 mircea_popescu uhh.. k.
11:18 mircea_popescu but he doesn't actually have a voice.
11:18 thickasthieves oh hell no
11:18 thickasthieves he's not a singer
11:18 thickasthieves and many voices would sound better on his own stuff
11:18 mircea_popescu well fuck, im a talented dancer, im the only guy who can walk, dress, eat and sit up on a chair.
11:19 mircea_popescu what is this, hospice olympics ?
11:19 thickasthieves well you dont compare ballet to breakdancing do you?
11:19 mircea_popescu i do, yes.
11:19 mircea_popescu in that i require my ballet experts to breakdance.
11:19 thickasthieves hrm
11:19 thickasthieves youre diffusing me with weirdness
11:20 mircea_popescu good exercise, what. breakdancing is a ballet sub.
11:20 mircea_popescu and fwiw, most opera training includes some sca.
11:20 thickasthieves but the best breakdancer couldnt ballet
11:20 mircea_popescu scat*
11:21 thickasthieves i could see how scat would be good training for certain qualities
11:21 mircea_popescu well that depends. if he's actually good rather than just faking it well (by doing the moves he can do in succession so as to distract from the narrowness)
11:21 thickasthieves timing, mouth noise
11:21 mircea_popescu then he could prolly learn pretty fast.
11:22 thickasthieves but the style of his music doesnt provide much opportunity for displaying it
11:22 thickasthieves though i will say when he does try to sing it's pretty weak
11:22 thickasthieves he goes for more of chant thing usually
11:22 thickasthieves and his voice is always heavily processed
11:22 thickasthieves doubled and such
11:22 punkman know any rappers that can actually sing?
11:23 mircea_popescu there were some girls
11:23 thickasthieves yeah, pharcyde
11:23 thickasthieves outkast
11:23 thickasthieves en vogue
11:23 thickasthieves :)
11:23 ben_vulpes pharell williams
11:23 thickasthieves i dont like his voice
11:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46450 @ 0.0007484 = 34.7632 BTC [+] {3}
11:23 thickasthieves he sings very generic
11:23 ben_vulpes i sign the song generic
11:23 thickasthieves i always thought happy should have been sung by ceelo
11:23 ben_vulpes all pop songs are generic man
11:24 thickasthieves ceelo is a rapper that can sing
11:24 ben_vulpes oh yeah forget ye not ceelo
11:24 thickasthieves he doesnt rap much anymore tho
11:24 ben_vulpes expanding horizons
11:24 thickasthieves such a creepy dude
11:25 mircea_popescu thickasthieves incidentally, you know what else includes breakdancing ? horseback riding lol
11:26 ben_vulpes ?
11:26 mircea_popescu or at least, a lulzy subset of breakdancing consising of "hei guise i've just been thrown at speed fron three feet up, look what i can do"
11:26 thickasthieves hehe
11:26 thickasthieves gymastics
11:26 mircea_popescu no but srsly, "how to safely fall"
11:26 thickasthieves n
11:26 thickasthieves i believe it
11:27 thickasthieves falling is a skill in many sports
11:27 mircea_popescu actually, the one fad i most regret is parkour
11:27 ben_vulpes capoeira is also a superset of breakdancing then
11:28 mircea_popescu in the 90s i was hoping for it to take over the world,
11:28 thickasthieves the videos are fun
11:28 thickasthieves for about 10min
11:28 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes tbh i think the other way around
11:28 thickasthieves kinda like watching skateboarding videos
11:28 mircea_popescu thickasthieves not as much as a performance sport. more like an erryday activity.
11:28 thickasthieves capoeira very dancey
11:28 ben_vulpes capoeira's definitly older.
11:29 thickasthieves yeah itd be cool if humans were all jumpy
11:29 ben_vulpes my dance set theory's weak though.
11:29 thickasthieves ninja swing out of my car to the trunk in one move, cuz why not
11:29 ben_vulpes but go on with the parkour, mircea
11:29 mircea_popescu i suppose western obesity had a lot to do with why it didn't catch over here,
11:29 mircea_popescu but dayum, the chink kids are all thin and shit.
11:30 mircea_popescu <thickasthieves> ninja swing out of my car to the trunk in one move, cuz why not << that.
11:30 ben_vulpes thickasthieves: the passenger door dun work on my wheelbox, i ninja escape over the stick frequently
11:30 * ben_vulpes is enrolling in the b-a paupery competition
11:31 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you know how the passanger door stops working right ?
11:31 ben_vulpes ...
11:31 ben_vulpes it's specifically the internal release, but go on.
11:31 thickasthieves ben_vulpes is enrolling in the b-a paupery competition /// arbeit macht frei
11:32 mircea_popescu loser dude with no crib to take the bitches at keeps bringing teenaged priss puss over to this ravine or w/e, asks them to do things much to their indignant surprise,
11:32 mircea_popescu so they get out and slam the door.
11:32 mircea_popescu after a few years...
11:32 ben_vulpes thickasthieves: it's one of those "ask a guy who likes flying if he'd rather have 500K or a 6-seater" situations
11:33 ben_vulpes lol mircea_popescu in this situation it's probably my own hulk-smash behavior
11:33 mircea_popescu you mean ask a rap artist if he'd rather have 10k or 100 speed balls for his contract advance ?
11:33 ben_vulpes shit's gotta be robust to survive proximate to me
11:33 ben_vulpes rap artist == drug addict?
11:33 thickasthieves smart rapper gets half and half
11:33 thickasthieves :)
11:33 mircea_popescu ahahhhaha
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11:34 mircea_popescu !b 6
11:34 mircea_popescu so much win there
11:35 mircea_popescu and incidentally,
11:35 mircea_popescu ;;google teenaged priss puss
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11:35 mircea_popescu spongebobia hm ?
11:39 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPO5VDoDGLM
11:39 assbot Creole Love Call - Adelade Hall - YouTube
11:39 thickasthieves looks like final capitulation is this weekend
11:39 mircea_popescu never.
11:40 thickasthieves i think you mena something else ;)
11:40 thickasthieves mean
11:40 mircea_popescu and i would like the permanent record to reflect the fact that this is going to be the high water mark for all time.
11:40 thickasthieves you mean this low will neve rbe seen again?
11:41 mircea_popescu the next pass, if fucking sponsored by the UN, if it has a special international institution created, won't get as far.
11:41 mircea_popescu thickasthieves not specifically the price itself. more holistically speaking.
11:41 thickasthieves still so many threats to experience though
11:42 mircea_popescu yeah.
11:42 mircea_popescu all for the other side.
11:42 mircea_popescu totally insufficient experience of what threat really means.
11:43 thickasthieves my new fear is how the hell can we keep exchange points from making btc, or paper copy markets
11:43 thickasthieves basically any unnatural inflation
11:43 mircea_popescu by taking delivery.
11:44 thickasthieves but surely some will play in instruments or environments that dont
11:44 thickasthieves and surely some of those may influence whole market
11:44 mircea_popescu and go bankrupt and lose their pot.
11:44 mircea_popescu the high mark of that was pirate, actually.
11:44 mircea_popescu what one sole idiot with the help of a bunch of retarded community members accomplished in 2011
11:45 mircea_popescu can't now be reproduced by the usg, with the help of a smaller bucnh of much more retarded "community" members.
11:45 thickasthieves ethereum will be another node on the timeline
11:45 mircea_popescu yeah but buterin of 2014 is no gigavps of 2011
11:45 ben_vulpes the etf
11:45 ben_vulpes that one kinda makes my knees shake a bit
11:45 mircea_popescu what one is that ?
11:46 thickasthieves i'm kinda thinking that WinklETF aint happening
11:46 ben_vulpes all the american tards who "buy" "btc" via schwab
11:46 thickasthieves COIN
11:46 thickasthieves i was reasding how the application says they plan to use BTCE, bitfinex etc for it
11:46 ben_vulpes thickasthieves: coin?
11:46 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes eh let them have their fun, if they bought tesla it'd be no different.
11:46 thickasthieves COIN is the ticker for the wink ETF
11:46 ben_vulpes ah yeah
11:47 ben_vulpes not even buying otc?
11:47 mircea_popescu how would they lol
11:47 ben_vulpes how are they going to feed that thing without driving the price around like crazy on the playchanges
11:47 thickasthieves i dont recall, but my point is that wtf put btce in your plan
11:47 ben_vulpes what specifically are you talking about, their index or their paper?
11:47 mircea_popescu recall, most of the scams unwinding in the scamspace, bfl, mtgox, etc all tried to use the otc and got rejected.
11:48 mircea_popescu the otc is in fact incredibly effectual at policing
11:48 thickasthieves it says in the doc something like "btce is run by anonymous parties purported to be in bulgaria"
11:48 thickasthieves like the sec will approve that
11:48 ben_vulpes no man
11:48 ben_vulpes COIN is a tool of the USG, the SEC will approve whatever it takes to get fake btc into american hands.
11:49 Dimsler btc-e rocks
11:49 Dimsler best kept secret since bitcoin
11:49 thickasthieves til it pops
11:49 kakobrekla O_o
11:49 Dimsler till what pops
11:50 Dimsler its been the most stable buisness in btc
11:50 thickasthieves at best they are running some kind of arb scheme
11:50 thickasthieves at worst they are printing btc to keep their price down to do same
11:50 Dimsler the btc-e crew is in it for the long run
11:50 kakobrekla etc all tried to use the otc < eh?
11:50 Dimsler not sure what you're rambling about
11:50 thickasthieves no one really withdraws cash from btce
11:51 thickasthieves so you kinda have to pay admission to trade ther eby selling your btc cheap
11:51 thickasthieves somethings fishy
11:51 Dimsler whats fishy about it
11:51 Dimsler the load in percentage
11:51 Dimsler is reflected in the sale price
11:52 thickasthieves ;;ticker --market all
11:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 345.39, vol: 20360.85658159 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 330.49, vol: 12046.80378 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 345.11, vol: 25709.08908204 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 350.0, vol: 45.18495335 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 344.116476, vol: 41585.37640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 341.99671, vol: 8.87086436 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 352.923, vol: 84.94255978 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
11:52 thickasthieves ^ thats whats fishy
11:52 Dimsler costs about %5 to load into btc-e
11:52 Dimsler you know what
11:52 Dimsler just shutup
11:52 thickasthieves lol
11:52 Dimsler you have no idea wha tyou're talking about
11:52 thickasthieves sore spot?
11:53 Dimsler for what?
11:53 thickasthieves nvm
11:53 ben_vulpes costs 5% to put cash or coins into it?
11:53 Dimsler correct
11:53 Dimsler using any of the available wmz brokers etc.
11:53 Dimsler btc-e uses a back bone of all the scam russian e-currencies to load in
11:54 Dimsler bless them for operating and existing this long
11:54 ben_vulpes lol this is a dark corner of the internet i have no truck with
11:54 thickasthieves dimsler have you ever wd cash from btce?
11:54 thickasthieves i keep asking and cant find anyone
11:54 Dimsler i've done sepa from btc
11:54 Dimsler e
11:54 Dimsler and wmz
11:55 thickasthieves how long ago
11:55 Dimsler constantly
11:55 thickasthieves word
11:55 Dimsler i hedge my clients on there exchange
11:55 Dimsler by picking up short contracts
11:56 kakobrekla ;;bc,stats
11:56 gribble Current Blocks: 323803 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 772 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 1 hour, 53 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34111908469.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.58539
11:56 Dimsler my hope is that btc-e doesn't get ruined, the guy said he wants to keep the entire exchange out of the btc nerd limelight
11:57 thickasthieves theyre doing something right
11:57 kakobrekla you cant get destroyed by your users unless you have a faulty product
11:57 Dimsler the actual operation is russian
11:58 Dimsler they had to move out to bulgaria since the russians are derp on bitcoin
11:58 thickasthieves seems they could be a target for AML problems
11:58 Dimsler correct
11:58 Dimsler best btc exchange are in non-oecd and non-us-extradition treaty areas
11:58 Dimsler where no one really gives a shit
11:59 kakobrekla bitstamp is the best
11:59 Dimsler no bitstamp is not the best
11:59 kakobrekla have you seen the css?
11:59 mircea_popescu <Dimsler> its been the most stable buisness in btc << nah, mpex is actually older.
11:59 Dimsler try withdrawing 50k+ and see how bad they own you
11:59 kakobrekla clearly has not seen the css.
11:59 Dimsler mircea_popescu, i meant to add, that deal with usd exchange
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.54245260 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 395 satoshi per share
12:00 Dimsler kakobrekla, sorry no, i'm not familiar with what css means
12:00 thickasthieves bitstamp is great for releasing btc though
12:00 mircea_popescu "<Dimsler> i hedge my clients on there exchange" << this will need some clarification.
12:00 Dimsler mircea_popescu, if a client wants coins, before i deliver, i short on there exchange with mt4
12:01 Dimsler to lock in there price
12:01 kakobrekla Dimsler sorry my sarcasm engine is stuck on on.
12:01 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust Dimsler
12:01 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask Dimsler!~dimsler@17.254.127.199.client.static.strong-in67.as13926.net. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Dimsler: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Dimsler | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Dimsler | Rated since: Tue Oct 22 13:51:07 2013
12:01 mircea_popescu so where are these clients ?
12:01 kakobrekla still, great css.
12:01 Dimsler lol obviously not infront of a computer screen
12:01 mircea_popescu so you deal btc in person in your geographical area and use btc-e to float the spot risk ?
12:01 Dimsler else they would do it themselves
12:02 kakobrekla !down kakobrekla stop it already
12:02 mircea_popescu o.O
12:02 Dimsler who else would allow you to do that
12:02 Dimsler they offer 3:1 leverage
12:02 thickasthieves bfx is 3.3:1
12:02 mircea_popescu lol nm.
12:02 Dimsler yes correct
12:02 mircea_popescu anyway, btc-e has indeed been around for a long time, and no i don't know anything substantial against them, so.
12:03 Dimsler bitfinex is also super decent
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11972744 BTC to 15`436 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
12:03 mircea_popescu they had the original altcoin premine scam,
12:03 Dimsler yes they were given premined shares to list up those junk coins
12:03 mircea_popescu that was scammy at the time but by now even the usg is doing it, so it seems to have been legalised ipso facto
12:04 thickasthieves so with diff going down, is it time to scoop up mining contracts?
12:04 mircea_popescu thickasthieves only with people who'll actually deliver. like say X-Rob here :p
12:04 Dimsler neg
12:04 mircea_popescu imagine this shit, the first time i actually buy a mining future contract, i actually get a great deal on it.
12:04 thickasthieves heh
12:04 Dimsler the time to pickup mining contracts is when the nerds are swinging from the rafters in there basements
12:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00074528 = 10.1358 BTC [-]
12:05 kakobrekla you also bought gigavps for etf
12:05 kakobrekla or what was it
12:05 * kakobrekla rains on parade
12:06 mircea_popescu i suppose that should count too huh.
12:06 mircea_popescu i dunno if i can mix being scammed with not being scammed but not making a profit.
12:06 kakobrekla :p
12:06 Dimsler lol
12:06 mircea_popescu 15.08.14 00:00 from admin
12:06 mircea_popescu Dear participants of the BTC-e.com The cases of hacking accounts with the use of viruses disguised as trade bots, trading platform, and also subscription for mailout, from which you may catch a virus if you follow a link in it, became more frequent.
12:07 TheNewDeal was giga selling mining contracts?
12:07 mircea_popescu this guy thinks in posix lol
12:07 Dimsler lol btc-e is hardcore targeted
12:07 Dimsler they sit on tor exit nodes
12:07 Dimsler sniffing packets
12:07 mircea_popescu "Do you accept any alternate forms of payment such as Debit/Credit Cards?" that part is pretty win.
12:07 Dimsler waiting for btc-e traffic to change withdrawl address'
12:08 mircea_popescu so i gather you have a btc-e account and work as a broker ?
12:08 Dimsler more of a hobby at this point
12:09 Dimsler must pump the value of coins to swell my own
12:09 Dimsler the bitcoin paradox
12:09 mircea_popescu "Any undertaking carried out with Bitcoin (BTC) will begin immediately, though it may be up to 24 hours before it is reflected in your BTC-e account. BTC-e executes all account withdrawals right away or in 1-2 days."
12:09 mircea_popescu lol "hey guise, we're mpex!1"
12:09 mircea_popescu so then if you have a large stash of your own coin, why do you need to hedge on any website ?!
12:10 Dimsler well wait a minute
12:10 Dimsler why should i take on any form of exposure
12:10 Dimsler when theres a service that does it for me on a nominal fee
12:10 mircea_popescu inasmuch as you have a stash, you already took a form of exposure.
12:11 mircea_popescu if you're looking to "pump to sell your own coins", the moment you found a buyer you sell and that';s it.
12:11 kakobrekla ;;ticker
12:11 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.0, Best ask: 341.42, Bid-ask spread: 0.42000, Last trade: 341.0, 24 hour volume: 22881.12349634, 24 hour low: 340.0, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
12:11 Dimsler i think you're being eluded by context here
12:11 mircea_popescu that'd be a new one.
12:12 Dimsler nevermind what i'm personally doing with my coins
12:12 Dimsler it has nothing to do with my arbitraging that i do as a side buisness
12:12 Dimsler there is no correlation
12:12 mircea_popescu well, you made the correlation, i'm just trying to follow.
12:12 mircea_popescu are we cancelling it ?
12:13 Dimsler yes because it was taken a tad bit out of context
12:13 Dimsler as is it was an overall generalization of pumping bitcoins to future buyers
12:14 Dimsler at todays price theres 400million worth of coin that needs to be bought up
12:14 mircea_popescu mkay so the situation is that you have a btc-e account and work as a broker, but when i asked you the first time you figured it's a good moment to insert a pretense of significant holdings you don't actually hold, and in doing so inadvertently blew to bits your earlier description of your actual activity, which was up to that point correct.
12:14 Dimsler this year
12:14 Dimsler in order to keep the price up
12:15 Dimsler mircea_popescu, there is no situation, lets stick to ambiguity and vaugness
12:17 mircea_popescu mkay
12:18 thickasthieves china plowing the price down
12:18 mircea_popescu better than belgium.
12:18 thickasthieves ;;ticker
12:18 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 336.0, Best ask: 336.17, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 336.17, 24 hour volume: 23602.59468842, 24 hour low: 335.23, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
12:18 Dimsler the price is being plowed down by the lack of fresh money
12:18 thickasthieves yep
12:19 thickasthieves need dat new blood
12:19 thickasthieves keep the ponzi going
12:19 Dimsler i've already explained that ages ago
12:19 Dimsler http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/20iem7/the_bitcoin_network_costs_nearly_1_billion_a_year/
12:19 assbot The Bitcoin network costs nearly $1 billion a year to run. : Bitcoin
12:19 Dimsler you can catch my post here
12:19 punkman so I rewrote deedbot basics, will work on supybot plugin soon
12:20 mircea_popescu ;;rated punkman
12:20 thickasthieves i wonder if days like this make bitpay sweat
12:20 gribble You rated user punkman on Fri May 16 09:11:15 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Talent scout and secret agent..
12:20 mircea_popescu punkman my love for you is inflaming.
12:20 mircea_popescu thickasthieves nah notrly.
12:21 punkman working on electrum integration now
12:21 mircea_popescu Dimsler how could one catch your post there, seeing how there's no dimsler ?
12:21 mircea_popescu "I want to make this clear. This is not the result of a conspiracy or collusion. This is the outcome of flawed economic incentives and the reaction to them by participants. Hardware used to mine is irrelevant. The underlying rationale regarding distribution of newly created bitcoins is flawed."
12:21 mircea_popescu lmao reddit entitlement derpage.
12:21 Dimsler no
12:21 mircea_popescu "it's flawed because the government should get it to give it to us why should some people get it to do whatever they feel like onoes"
12:22 mircea_popescu "Contrary to popular belief, a rising bitcoin price ends up damaging liquidity instead of improving it. Miners are encouraged to cashout their huge gains by a rising price. This leads to volatility across the board via crashes. The volatility makes it too difficult to perform economic calculation in BTC."
12:22 mircea_popescu fucktard. for one thing, it STABILIZES the price. which is good.
12:22 mircea_popescu for the other, too hard ? fuck you.
12:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 699 @ 0.00250001 = 1.7475 BTC [-] {4}
12:22 Dimsler lol give me a break you have no idea what you're talking about
12:22 mircea_popescu that would... also be a new one.
12:22 Dimsler satoshi had no idea about economics
12:23 mircea_popescu now how would you know that.
12:23 Dimsler he fucking read murray rothbard and applied his idiotic quantitive theory of money
12:23 thickasthieves at least panic sellers will still have their ETH
12:23 Dimsler which has been debunked for ages
12:23 Dimsler satoshi had no idea how to distribute new coins
12:23 kakobrekla ;;ticker
12:23 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 336.0, Best ask: 336.68, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 335.96, 24 hour volume: 23642.96240402, 24 hour low: 335.23, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
12:23 TheNewDeal youre ridiculous
12:23 mircea_popescu looky here. all this would make a lot more sense to you if you read the trilema explanation as to the difference of acting from a cause from acting towards a purpose.
12:23 mircea_popescu you're trying to apply the acting towards a purpose approach, because that's all they teach anymore.
12:23 Dimsler you have no idea about economics
12:23 mircea_popescu but in fact, a number of people are not doing any of that.
12:24 mircea_popescu simply acting from causes.
12:24 Dimsler i've read some of your shit
12:24 Apocalyptic for a guy that had no idea he made a pretty good job
12:24 Dimsler it goes completely off tangent
12:24 Dimsler with few merrits
12:24 TheNewDeal "satoshi had no idea about cryptography, or computers for that matter" - dimsler
12:24 mircea_popescu you at all familiar with the ancient art of hermeneutics, Dimsler ?
12:24 thickasthieves dimsler mp is abstract but thats like half the joy of reading
12:24 thickasthieves deciphering
12:24 thickasthieves becuase,
12:24 Dimsler lol i enjoy the abstract
12:24 thickasthieves i learned this from trilema
12:24 thickasthieves ,
12:24 thickasthieves translating is understanding
12:25 Dimsler they are good reads
12:25 Dimsler and i read the majority of them
12:25 thickasthieves </groupie mode>
12:25 Dimsler but the logic isn't very sound in many of th eposted economic studies
12:25 mircea_popescu ok. so then. satoshi didn't proceed towards this goal or that goal, as presumed by this or that purpose-built theory of economics.
12:25 Dimsler listen
12:25 mircea_popescu he proceeded from basic principle. and he, and a lot of other people, couldn't give less of a shit as to what the ultimate implications are.
12:25 Dimsler bless satoshi
12:26 mircea_popescu it's not that. i don't care about the man's memory or anything. im trying to explain a fundamental difference in approach.
12:26 thickasthieves my main problem with arguments is when they proclaim ideals or extremes are achievable for more than a moment
12:26 Dimsler mircea_popescu, the ultimate implications are going to stifle any form of adoption
12:26 mircea_popescu now how do you know what's going to happen.
12:27 mircea_popescu see, you're trapped in this particular worldview, which falsely promises you somewthing.
12:27 Dimsler because history derp
12:27 Dimsler quantitive money theory fails on any systems its been tried on
12:27 mircea_popescu the way this promise goes is, "if you limit yourself to purpose-theory, you will have privileged access to ultimate effect"
12:27 mircea_popescu this is false. you have no better access than the students of cause-theory, for very good thermodynamic reasons.
12:27 mircea_popescu it's just that THEY do get to control your priors. you do not,
12:27 mircea_popescu instead your priors are controled by the authors of your favourite purpose-theory.
12:28 mircea_popescu which is why you imagine satoshi to be a rothbard tool.
12:28 mircea_popescu because if he had been working in a purpose-theory approach, he would have been.
12:28 mircea_popescu but then again, the proposition that he was is easily falsifiable.
12:28 Dimsler listen don't spin me the arguement here with preppy 101 vocubulary and euphamisms
12:28 mircea_popescu that would... ALSO be a new one.
12:30 TheNewDeal just curious - is it a common practice in any part of the world to brew coffee with snuff?
12:30 mircea_popescu but as a total aside : the quality of your arguments exceeds the quality of your expression, significantly. that means you're smarter than you're read, which is unfortunate. you definitely should read up on and master all that "preppy 101 vocabulary", it's not the waste of time inept pseudo-teachers and pretend-authorities have made it seem.
12:30 thickasthieves dimsler rides the line between enjoyable conversation and troll
12:31 mircea_popescu guy is smart and short fused.
12:31 Dimsler fuck i need some coffee
12:31 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal not afaik. seems a us marketing invention.
12:31 mircea_popescu if you mean snuff=chewing tobacco
12:31 TheNewDeal yes
12:31 mircea_popescu or w/e, insuflating
12:32 kakobrekla id say thats even worse than smoking
12:33 kakobrekla tobacco water is used as pesticide
12:33 kakobrekla i wouldnt drink it.
12:34 TheNewDeal how about coffee and liquor? I've heard of many people proposing it, but rare to see it happen in practice
12:34 mircea_popescu you kidding ?
12:34 mircea_popescu that's common.
12:36 thickasthieves waste of booze imo
12:36 kakobrekla dunno what is your point, but if you want to kill yourself or just want a ruined coffee, there are better ways
12:36 TheNewDeal Is there a specific flavor that's preferred - i.e. brandy?
12:36 TheNewDeal The tobacco was merely a joke
12:36 ben_vulpes caffeine and alcohol is a glorious combination
12:36 ben_vulpes also cocaine and alcohol
12:37 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you can lket coffee grinds sit in alcohol then add sugar, just like anything else.
12:37 mircea_popescu cocoa, too.
12:37 mircea_popescu chicks dig it.
12:37 TheNewDeal Most popular addition I've seen is Baileys, which is basically a flavored creamer you would find at a gas station + small amount of alcohol
12:37 thickasthieves a roommate once put coke in a joint
12:37 TheNewDeal seems like a waste of cannabis imo
12:37 TheNewDeal to each his own
12:37 kakobrekla ;;ticker
12:38 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.12, Best ask: 332.75, Bid-ask spread: 2.63000, Last trade: 329.15, 24 hour volume: 23585.18803595, 24 hour low: 329.15, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
12:38 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal liquor is made quite simply : triple alcohol (198 proof or w/e) added to X item of your choice, let sit for a few months. then cut it.
12:38 thickasthieves i said "once" :)
12:38 mircea_popescu water, milk, fresh coffee, w/e
12:38 kakobrekla this stops at 0, right? .... right guys?
12:38 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> kakobrekla you can lket coffee grinds sit in alcohol then add sugar, just like anything else. << o fuck the things i learn here
12:38 asciilifeform mamushi liquor.
12:38 mircea_popescu kakobrekla no you will owe the internet dollars when this is all done
12:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform mail omg!!11
12:38 TheNewDeal I don't believe the price of bitcoin can go negative, alas I'm not an economics expert
12:39 kakobrekla on bitstamp only
12:39 * ben_vulpes boggles at the notion of negatively priced btc
12:39 TheNewDeal or mt cox
12:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, i'm awake, on it.
12:39 mircea_popescu http://www.cosmicbuddha.com/adam/archives/000341.html re mamushi
12:39 assbot The Presidental Erection (Higo Blog)
12:40 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it's been known to happen. that's the textbook definition of dekulakization btw : make an asset go negative value in the open market.
12:40 mircea_popescu like currently, working for the usg is a positive value. you get health insurance, a salary, etc.
12:40 mircea_popescu in a few years, it's a negative value. you get tortured.
12:40 mircea_popescu point in case.
12:40 Dimsler mircea_popescu, i like a simple conversation amongst people i share common interests with
12:41 mircea_popescu yeah but most things worth talking about can't be discussed in simple terms.
12:41 mircea_popescu so the practical choice is either "how you doing" "Great! and you ?" "also great" "oh, great!" or else the midnight oil.
12:43 ben_vulpes http://online.wsj.com/articles/california-governor-vetoes-bill-requiring-warrants-for-drone-surveillance-1412007285
12:43 assbot California Governor Vetoes Bill Requiring Warrants for Drone Surveillance - WSJ
12:46 mircea_popescu who's zenithquinn lol
12:48 TheNewDeal ;;ticker
12:48 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 338.0, Best ask: 339.76, Bid-ask spread: 1.76000, Last trade: 339.76, 24 hour volume: 25149.13037167, 24 hour low: 325.67, 24 hour high: 368.74, 24 hour vwap: 0
12:50 mircea_popescu http://www.zenithquinn.com/ << so this dude has managed to write a whole site which loads... nothing at all.
12:50 assbot Zenith Quinn Animations - Art - Videos
12:50 mircea_popescu if anyone can get trhough to a contact or something, tell him to drop by
12:50 TheNewDeal ;;ticker -all
12:50 mircea_popescu punkman: there goes my 350 bet <<< aw shucks!
12:50 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
12:51 Dimsler maybe thats the premise for humanity
12:51 mircea_popescu 300 next ? 250 ? 100 ?
12:51 TheNewDeal 400
12:51 Dimsler in the end its nothingness
12:51 Dimsler whens the next reward halving again?
12:52 punkman ;;halfreward
12:52 gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Aug 2 17:11:59 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 43 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
12:52 mircea_popescu coupla years out
12:53 TheNewDeal 1.43 ;)
12:53 mircea_popescu ;;calc 43/52
12:53 gribble 0.826923076923
12:53 mircea_popescu 1.82
12:53 Dimsler i think at 250 theres going to a miner bust out
12:53 TheNewDeal un chiste
12:53 Dimsler or liquidation
12:54 Dimsler especially if it carries through for a few months
12:54 TheNewDeal already seems like some miner hesitation at sub 400
12:58 mircea_popescu definiotely most of the midrange and plenty of the larger mining outfits have just about zero contingency and financial planning in place
12:59 mircea_popescu so yeah, if it goes too low for too long they'll be dropping like flies
13:01 The20YearIRCloud That absolutely shocks me
13:01 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes check it out, you ddosed justitia.com
13:01 mircea_popescu https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html
13:01 assbot Perry v. United States :: 294 U.S. 330 (1935) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center
13:01 mircea_popescu o.O
13:01 mircea_popescu i r banned ?!
13:01 mircea_popescu hm looks like just a glitch. nm.
13:01 ben_vulpes looks like it
13:02 thickasthieves bfx swaps at all time high
13:02 thickasthieves 12358btc shorted
13:02 mircea_popescu that's all ?!
13:02 mircea_popescu wasn't that thing supposed to be like huge and shit ?
13:02 thickasthieves ;;market buy 12000
13:02 gribble Bitstamp | A market order to buy 12000 bitcoins right now would take 5392647.4421 USD and would take the last price up to 596.8700 USD, resulting in an average price of 449.3873 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0393 seconds
13:02 mircea_popescu o wait, i forgot, the wash trading sort of huge. a trillion just as long as it's done in 100 increments. nm me.
13:03 thickasthieves bfx is not a volume leader anymore
13:03 thickasthieves its china remember
13:03 thickasthieves :)
13:03 thickasthieves okcoin
13:04 mircea_popescu so bitcoincharts.com died yest or what.
13:05 thickasthieves they dont list okcoin
13:05 thickasthieves interesting
13:05 thickasthieves nor huobi
13:06 dignork thickasthieves: bitcointicker.co lists huobi
13:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00074936 = 1.0866 BTC [+]
13:08 punkman here you go http://btckan.com/price
13:10 thickasthieves lol look at 796 futures
13:10 thickasthieves i think they do 10:1 margin
13:10 thickasthieves 322000btc volume
13:10 thickasthieves 24h
13:12 thickasthieves thats healthy
13:12 mircea_popescu lol
13:12 mircea_popescu nobody ever heard of them or dealt with them, but sure, 300k bitcoin.
13:13 The20YearIRCloud heh
13:14 mircea_popescu i imagine all over egypt/albania/kyrgiztan/whatever, in all sorts of small rural hamlets with a single internet lifeline, all sorts of adolescent boys are pretending like they got the millionz of btc
13:17 The20YearIRCloud Yeah
13:17 The20YearIRCloud anything fun attracts those types
13:21 The20YearIRCloud It's amazing how people value things - I was at a property auction, house was worth $45k , i wanted it for $35k, and people bid it to $55k due to ego
13:21 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:21 mircea_popescu or maybe due to wanting it ?
13:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23488 @ 0.00074945 = 17.6031 BTC [+]
13:27 The20YearIRCloud Quite possibly, however from my standpoint there wasn't anything special with it. Heck there's a home right next to it for sale they could of got for less with the same features
13:28 mircea_popescu for all you know this one had ten pounds of gold coins burried in the back yard.
13:32 The20YearIRCloud So why's btc around 335 today?
13:32 mircea_popescu ongoing pricewarz
13:33 thickasthieves recalibrating
13:33 thickasthieves too many of the wrong people had coins
13:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19706 @ 0.00074871 = 14.7541 BTC [-] {2}
13:40 mircea_popescu !up hatchmo
13:43 mircea_popescu it occurs to me that the web2.0 replacement of / with ÷ is one of the most idiotic things ever done
13:43 mircea_popescu that thng looks like a + on a small scale.
13:44 mircea_popescu why this constant braindamnged need to "improve" by ruining everything
13:44 Dimsler LOL
13:44 thickasthieves back to the caves i say!
13:46 hatchmo what do you guys think of circle?
13:47 thickasthieves horrible interface
13:47 Dimsler unsustainable
13:48 hatchmo because of the lack of direct transaction fees?
13:50 dignork hatchmo: their sell/buy rates are equal?
13:50 thickasthieves well the only thing of value they provide is a connection to banks, right?
13:51 dignork but so is coinbase
13:51 thickasthieves coinbase is at least getting their 1%
13:51 thickasthieves something has to give
13:52 TheNewDeal coinbase gets much more than 1%
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26473 @ 0.00074961 = 19.8444 BTC [+] {2}
13:52 TheNewDeal they deliver 5 business days after, which basically turns into an option priced in at 1% above current price, 4 days out
13:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3641 @ 0.00074969 = 2.7296 BTC [+]
13:59 hatchmo you can buy instantly on coinbase TheNewDeal
13:59 TheNewDeal thought that was for an increased fee
14:00 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-september-2014-statement/
14:01 hatchmo you have to provide a credit card TheNewDeal
14:05 mircea_popescu hatchmo http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=D.CIFI
14:05 assbot D.CIFI last @0.00000000
14:06 hatchmo what is dcifi?
14:07 mircea_popescu circle synthetic equivalent.
14:11 mircea_popescu ;;seen DanielKrawisz
14:11 gribble DanielKrawisz was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <DanielKrawisz> No, why?
14:11 mircea_popescu ;;later tell DanielKrawisz http://trilema.com/2012/the-politics-of-bitcoin/ << this 2012 article, of course.
14:11 assbot The politics of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:16 mircea_popescu !up GodHatesFigs
14:23 GodHatesFigs buying all dem bargain bitcoins
14:24 mod6 i had a dream last night that it went down to $6 again, and i tried to back up a truck
14:26 GodHatesFigs $6; $335 - it's all the same :)
14:27 mircea_popescu and then you bought 30k's worth and it was back to 1200 ?
14:28 mod6 higher. :)
14:28 mod6 x10
14:30 mircea_popescu lol
14:33 mod6 eep! host laaaag
14:35 mod6 well, it reconnected in #altcoin, i should merge that change.
14:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00074786 = 6.4316 BTC [-] {2}
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.17 = 0.68 BTC [-]
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15:12 kakobrekla so thickasthieves did you start pasting the 300 bet around yet?
15:12 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
15:12 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 337.43, Best ask: 338.55, Bid-ask spread: 1.12000, Last trade: 337.65, 24 hour volume: 26940.07119603, 24 hour low: 325.67, 24 hour high: 367.1, 24 hour vwap: 0
15:12 mircea_popescu lol i thought it crossed.
15:14 mircea_popescu "Busco mujeres para fotos artisticas en Buenos Aires.
15:14 mircea_popescu Fotos de desnudos, fotos color & blanco y negro.
15:14 mircea_popescu Mujeres jovenes. Cualquier tipo de cabello, color de piel y ojos. Con ganas de modelar para fotos artisticas cuidadas.
15:14 mircea_popescu A cambio puedo ofrecerte copia de las fotos para tu propio book. Si estas interesada enviame un mail con una foto tuya a color y mail o telefono para contactarme.
15:14 mircea_popescu NO ES PAGO. ES POR CANJE DE FOTOS POR MODELAJE"
15:15 mircea_popescu this is the fucking competition lmao. free modelling for art!!1
15:23 thickasthieves i didnt see the 300 bet
15:25 thickasthieves i linked it :)
15:26 thickasthieves i'll be rolling is referral satoshis! mwoohahaha
15:28 thickasthieves i was thinking not very hard about whether the fact that it costs 5% to get money into btce is actually a sound reason for BTCUSD to be 5% cheaper there
15:28 thickasthieves i dont think most markets factor in fees so efficiently
15:29 thickasthieves or am i missing something
15:29 mircea_popescu if it's a sellers market
15:29 mircea_popescu otherwise, it should conceivably be 5% more expensive.
15:31 jurov lol i'm scanning a bunch of stuff and noticed my household insurance specifically excludes "caused by improper date calculation by computer"
15:31 thickasthieves y2k!
15:32 jurov "i had a fire in my flat" "twas improper date calculation, gtfo"
15:32 mircea_popescu lmao y2k left over.
15:33 thickasthieves probly just avoiding trolls
15:34 jurov how would that help against trolls?
15:35 jurov they are trolls. i fully expect, if my washmachine causes a flood, them to ask if it has a microcontroller
15:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13126 @ 0.00074781 = 9.8158 BTC [-]
15:37 thickasthieves i assume one asshole says y2k made my pc catch fire
15:37 thickasthieves and theyre like uh no fuck this
15:40 thickasthieves but who knows
15:40 jurov how it is different from pc catching fire from faulty physical component?
15:41 jurov afaik such case *is* covered
15:41 thickasthieves i dont do insurance, but maybe there are aspects that can be your fault
15:41 thickasthieves like overclocking
15:41 thickasthieves no idea
15:42 jurov yes, that's another thing, if they come to suspect OC
15:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20148 @ 0.00074892 = 15.0892 BTC [+] {2}
16:05 thickasthieves ;;ticker
16:05 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 324.19, Best ask: 324.83, Bid-ask spread: 0.64000, Last trade: 324.19, 24 hour volume: 27940.04199331, 24 hour low: 323.0, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
16:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.0007453 = 9.8752 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.0007453 = 1.8633 BTC [-]
16:15 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this month's turd is mailed.
16:17 mircea_popescu win.
16:17 jurov heh turd
16:18 asciilifeform i haven't, surprisingly, received any hate mail re: the lameness; must assume it's going to mircea_popescu's dev/null
16:18 mircea_popescu no pics ? i was promised pix!
16:18 asciilifeform shot the pics wad here
16:18 * asciilifeform can always take more
16:19 mircea_popescu link ?
16:19 asciilifeform !s rotor
16:19 assbot 21 results for 'rotor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=rotor
16:19 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#855068
16:19 assbot Logged on 02-10-2014 12:48:37; assbot: vacuum nozzle (rotor) - Imgur
16:19 jurov and that gold...er... brass nozzle or whatever
16:19 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2014#855251
16:19 assbot Logged on 02-10-2014 13:44:16; assbot: Making vacuum rotor ('Sherline' micro-lathe) - YouTube
16:20 * asciilifeform regressed mostly to 18th c., at least temporarily
16:20 mircea_popescu lol. danke.
16:20 * jurov goes to troll reddit "S.NSA is machining stuff from gold"
16:21 mircea_popescu this is kinda an idea... maybe we should open a line of hand machined slave collars and other items
16:21 asciilifeform lol!
16:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform dja feel like making hardware ? :D
16:21 asciilifeform paging ben_vulpes!
16:21 asciilifeform ^ he has an adult lathe i think
16:21 * asciilifeform can make collars. for guinea pigs, rats, iguana...
16:22 asciilifeform 3 inch spindle.
16:22 mircea_popescu cockrings, clearly.
16:22 asciilifeform aha!
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00074528 = 9.5396 BTC [-] {2}
16:22 jurov hue
16:23 * asciilifeform now wonders if a cock ring is generally a shaft-collar or set-screw
16:23 asciilifeform *clamp-collar
16:24 asciilifeform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaft_collar << for folks in the jungle
16:24 assbot Shaft collar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:24 jurov TIL cockring with set screw..eww..
16:25 mircea_popescu so here's a random idea. x.org and pretty much every implementation of a gui on linux does a pisspoor job of hiding kbd from any running program. ie, you can trivially read keystrokes typed in any window from any other window. on the other hand js stuff like .which and .keycode allows a website to read the kbd pretty well.
16:26 mircea_popescu so... how hard can it be.
16:26 asciilifeform first decide which 'it'
16:26 jurov use gtk_pinentry for everything?
16:26 mircea_popescu some it or other.
16:27 mircea_popescu jurov what'd gtk_pinentry do ?
16:27 jurov if you ever used gpg under X
16:27 jurov it pops up and monopolizes keyboard
16:27 mircea_popescu does it actually ?
16:28 jurov let me try
16:28 * mircea_popescu at edge of seat.
16:29 * asciilifeform doesn't like dedicated 'user is entering passwords' api gizmos - demarcated target.
16:29 jurov only a quickie with xev
16:30 jurov when pinentry was active, i was unable to get kbd events into xev
16:30 jurov not that proves anything, just a concet how it works
16:30 mircea_popescu that's something.
16:30 mircea_popescu http://dmauro.github.io/Keypress/ < btw.
16:30 assbot Keypress: A Javascript library for capturing input
16:31 mircea_popescu course i have nfi why xorg was made so windowsy in the first place.
16:31 jurov what do you mean?
16:31 jurov xorg is quite far from windowsy
16:32 jurov just the toolkits are
16:32 jurov and if you mean security, well...1980s
16:32 mircea_popescu specifically the kbd issue
16:33 assbot ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -4
16:33 kakobrekla !up ninjashogun i do what iwant
16:34 asciilifeform masochism-lol
16:34 jurov hi ninjashogun, our resident security expert
16:34 jurov so what do you think about this xorg problem?
16:34 ninjashogun Thanks. Does someone who has gribble with the proper distance want to trust me to whatever extent is required for an up. Ascii has complained about the volume of contribution, so I will keep it down. (obvoiusly you can remove this rating if you find I'm abusive.)
16:35 thickasthieves i doubt anyone here wants you roaming freely
16:35 ninjashogun jurov, hi. I'm actually a startup founder, not a security expert per se (besides a good theoretical understanding and some practical reading same as avialable to everyone here.) Not an xorg expert!
16:35 The20YearIRCloud i hate having all this BTC sitting and not being cashed out
16:35 kakobrekla delete the wallet
16:36 The20YearIRCloud we've lost something like $75k-$100k over the past year and a half due to volatility and the inability to cash out our deposits quickly
16:36 thickasthieves well a little late to cash out probly
16:36 jurov The20YearIRCloud, do it rapeghost way: pay dividends
16:36 The20YearIRCloud rapeghost?
16:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform can i have original of that video ?
16:36 jurov alias rg.. prolly before your time
16:36 mircea_popescu i intend to gif-ify it to test the saffron chick's thing.
16:37 mircea_popescu dude this guy again ?
16:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 1sec
16:37 ninjashogun Incidentally if it is on-topic here I am curious about the opinion of people here about 1) cause of BTC price depression 2) whether BTC price will rebound. Where will the buy pressure come from, given that there are other crypto currencies as well?
16:37 asciilifeform !s waterfall
16:37 assbot 21 results for 'waterfall' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=waterfall
16:37 kakobrekla <The20YearIRCloud> we've lost something like $75k-$100k over the past year and a half due to volatility and the inability to cash out our deposits quickly < handy excuse
16:37 * asciilifeform favours that hypothesis, cannot speak for other people
16:37 xanthyos hi
16:37 thickasthieves ninjashogun, I will allow the price to start going up again tomorrow
16:38 jurov ninjashogun,. it will come from dogecoin and from angel whales
16:38 jurov !s angel whale
16:38 assbot 3 results for 'angel whale' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=angel+whale
16:38 kakobrekla !s angel whale fishes
16:38 assbot 1 results for 'angel whale fishes' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=angel+whale+fishes
16:38 xanthyos my psychic premonition about 360 $/btc being the absolute glass floor were not true
16:38 The20YearIRCloud excuse for what?
16:38 kakobrekla for vaporizing 100k
16:39 The20YearIRCloud I just hate the equity loss being that bad
16:39 thickasthieves then why did you take the risk
16:39 The20YearIRCloud guess i don't understand how a large-ish business that takes BTC and runs into the asme cashout problems as us could operate with it
16:39 ninjashogun What I mean is that long-term, if BTC held a monopoly on crypto currency my price target would be $300K per bitcoin. (Simply because that is required for the amount of crypto currency the world has a money supply demand.) But the problem is that other crypto currencies can meet some of this demand. So, is that some of the reason for the decline? If it is, what will cause the rebound?
16:39 xanthyos "Risk is our business." (James Tiberius Kirk)
16:39 mircea_popescu dude stop positing idiocy.
16:39 mircea_popescu no "other cryptocurrencies" exist.
16:39 jurov how did you calculate the demand?
16:39 The20YearIRCloud There's 1000 other cryptos out there ninjashogun
16:40 mircea_popescu no such can ever exist, no such will ever exist. no such has met any demand, nor could, nor wil.
16:40 ninjashogun mircea_popescu, "no other cryptocurrencies exist", um?
16:40 mircea_popescu no um.
16:40 mircea_popescu and for that matter : you're not a startup anything, especially not a founder.
16:40 The20YearIRCloud http://coinmarketcap.com/
16:40 assbot Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations
16:40 thickasthieves those are games not coins
16:40 thickasthieves and altcoin already has those sewn up
16:40 kakobrekla hey my buttcoin poster sez buttcoin is game
16:40 mircea_popescu and you do not have understanding, theoretical or otherwise, on any topic, and specifically no good such understanding.
16:41 mircea_popescu now that we're settled on most of these topics, did you have anything meaningful to say ?
16:41 ninjashogun mircea_popescu, Oh, uh (wink) right. You are right that there are no other crypto currencies besides btc, I will grant this to you. It is ridiculous to assume any other crypto currency can ever come into existence.
16:41 mircea_popescu goof.
16:41 jurov aww y'all are so demeaning to these serious altbusinesses
16:41 mircea_popescu !down ninjashogun
16:41 mircea_popescu good*.
16:41 * thickasthieves cheers
16:41 jurov i'm more interested in that demand caluculation
16:41 jurov did it involve a rectum?
16:41 mircea_popescu we've sunk to the lows where kako trolls the channel. i know of no other place where the actual chan owner trolls the chan
16:41 mircea_popescu except, of course, for something awful.
16:42 jurov oh you finished him :(
16:42 kakobrekla :(
16:42 xanthyos all tissues are called "kleenex." all cola is called "coke." all photocopies are called "xerox." btc WON the cryto branding game
16:42 kakobrekla imm prolly usg covert
16:42 The20YearIRCloud how do you calculate coin demand jurov
16:42 mircea_popescu no dude, doge is "covering some of that demand"
16:42 xanthyos crypto*
16:42 mircea_popescu because a buncha fuctarded kids derping are "the demand" now
16:42 thickasthieves <+The20YearIRCloud> how do you calculate coin demand jurov /// price
16:43 jurov no i wanted to know his calcualtion
16:43 The20YearIRCloud ah
16:43 jurov required for the amount of crypto currency the world has a money supply demand
16:43 mircea_popescu $rand
16:44 The20YearIRCloud So it's assumed there's a 100% adpotion rate
16:44 mircea_popescu contorted fucking reasoning, such as, "mp said once that the endgame for bitcoin is this. now, let's maintain that figure but pretend like mp wasn't talking about btc, but about geese. so then a goose should be 300k usd per, and since it's not, clearly iron nails are taking up some of that market"
16:45 mircea_popescu "so give me 50k and i might buy iron nails which might be worth more in the future"
16:45 mircea_popescu let's call it... "a facultative idea" or whatever the fuck it was.
16:46 mircea_popescu !s "discretionary project"
16:46 assbot 5 results for '"discretionary project"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22discretionary+project%22
16:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20739 @ 0.00074929 = 15.5395 BTC [+] {2}
16:48 kakobrekla <thickasthieves> <+The20YearIRCloud> how do you calculate coin demand jurov /// price
16:48 kakobrekla its not price
16:48 kakobrekla not even the published mkt cap
16:48 kakobrekla cause its bogus
16:48 mircea_popescu you don't really calculate it, is the problem.
16:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://64.85.171.71/lathe.mov
16:52 mircea_popescu danke
16:52 Bet placed: 3.75 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $300 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1020/ Odds: 72(Y):28(N) by coin, 54(Y):46(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.48725376 BTC. Current weight: 33,226.
16:55 mircea_popescu !s from:mircea_popescu pretty slick
16:55 assbot 1 results for 'from:mircea_popescu pretty slick' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea_popescu+pretty+slick
16:55 mircea_popescu HA!
16:57 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
16:57 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 331.14, Best ask: 332.94, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 332.94, 24 hour volume: 28533.28413378, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
17:00 mircea_popescu Sorry! Gfy's are 15 seconds max! This video is 86.00 seconds. Think simple, jiffy, and captivating!
17:00 mircea_popescu awww!
17:00 mircea_popescu !up CryptoGoon
17:00 CryptoGoon Hi
17:00 CryptoGoon Lol
17:00 mircea_popescu ello
17:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i can convert...
17:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if you can cut a good <15s spot i'd like it
17:02 mircea_popescu if not ima just ul the 86s thing as is.
17:02 asciilifeform 1sec
17:05 jurov i got into PM with ninjashogun and last thing before i lost it was
17:05 mircea_popescu "But the file size is so high. Anyway to reduce the file size without compramising quality. My video file mostly contains texts " << idiot on stack exchange.
17:05 jurov <ninjashogun> we don't have to discuss that. But you have to realize that the files aren't considered private/secret, if the usage case includes signing at public computers
17:05 mircea_popescu definitely, the format for "texts" is video x.x
17:05 jurov "signing at public computers"
17:06 mircea_popescu guy lives in his own space.
17:06 kakobrekla singing at public computer
17:07 kakobrekla i have done that, even in front of public people
17:07 mircea_popescu i used to drink public water
17:09 mats_cd03 so when will there be preorders for a cardano?
17:09 mats_cd03 or is that not going to be a thing.
17:09 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3S8VR5T.txt )
17:09 jurov !bash 3
17:09 mats_cd03 =[
17:10 mircea_popescu well once asciilifeform is done building his own city over there...
17:11 * asciilifeform never grokked point of preorders. selling gizmos you don't have in stock ~= sc4mz0r1ng
17:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: which 15 seconds would you like?
17:12 asciilifeform it converts fine here
17:12 mircea_popescu i dunno
17:12 asciilifeform i can even stuff the whole thing in a gif.
17:13 mircea_popescu yeah but what size gif ?
17:13 asciilifeform a very heavy one.
17:15 mircea_popescu listen i just made it into a 30mb avi, it'kll be good enuff
17:15 asciilifeform hah it worked
17:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12583 @ 0.00074461 = 9.3694 BTC [-]
17:16 asciilifeform 5meg ~= 1st 20 sec.
17:17 asciilifeform http://64.85.171.71/lathe_anim.gif
17:17 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/
17:17 assbot No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:17 mircea_popescu that's a nice convertor, what is it ?
17:17 asciilifeform nm off by decimal place
17:17 asciilifeform 50m
17:18 asciilifeform fuggedaboutit
17:18 asciilifeform ffmpeg
17:18 mircea_popescu sweet.
17:18 asciilifeform bog-standard.
17:18 asciilifeform (all 50m uploaded in case anyone wants this for something, can't picture why)
17:20 jurov in 200years it will be reenacted religiously every sunday
17:20 mircea_popescu haha
17:20 mircea_popescu a lathing church, now that'd be something
17:20 * asciilifeform actually recalls some sf universe with religion involving lathes, but can't put finger on precisely where
17:25 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
17:25 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 330.76, Best ask: 331.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 331.0, 24 hour volume: 28406.61823679, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
17:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6891 @ 0.00074601 = 5.1408 BTC [+]
17:35 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2014-statement/
17:37 Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 41Bn before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1050/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.15235445 BTC. Current weight: 25,299.
17:48 decimation amusing http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/536/the-secret-recordings-of-carmen-segarra << some derpy latina with moxy joins the fed, is assigned to goldman, and is shocked to discover that the fed is composed of spineless twerps
17:48 assbot The Secret Recordings of Carmen Segarra | This American Life
17:49 mircea_popescu what's moxy
17:49 asciilifeform chutzpah ?
17:50 decimation ;;ud moxie
17:50 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moxie | Moxie (mok'see)n. Something or someone posessing the attribute of "coolness" or having "balls." The next word most likely to be stolen by Paris Hilton and then ...
17:50 mircea_popescu ah moxie
17:50 mircea_popescu so basically, private manning of the nyfed ?
17:51 mats_cd03 asciilifeform: ah well, see it as a perk of the faith people have in your ability to deliver.
17:51 mircea_popescu hey, at least they're regulating bitcoin. because that's a safe move :D
17:51 asciilifeform mats_cd03: which 'it' ?
17:51 asciilifeform mats_cd03: (i must've missed something)
17:52 decimation she released 'secret tapes' of her conversations with other fed employees & goldman
17:52 mats_cd03 asciilifeform: preorders.
17:52 asciilifeform aha
17:53 * asciilifeform (re: tapes) immediately shrugs, 'the goodstuff, if any, must've been snipped, ...' etc.
17:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00074457 = 13.3278 BTC [-] {2}
17:53 decimation One episode - her boss "Mike Silva" was about to go to a meeting where Goldman was going to buy the shady assets of a Spanish bank - and it required the Fed's "no objection" "And one of the things that caught Carmen’s eye was a short paragraph that the banks had written into the agreement. It said that Goldman had to notify the Fed about the Santander deal and obtain a quote,“no objection.""
17:54 asciilifeform and a nailgun is being oiled somewhere (assuming whole thing isn't a hangout)
17:54 decimation "Mike Silva: My own personal thinking right now is that we’re looking at a transaction that’s legal but shady. I want to put a big shot across their bow on that. Poking at it, maybe we find something even shadier than we already know. So let’s poke at this thing, let’s poke at it with our usual poker faces, you know. I’d like these guys to come away from this meeting confused as to what we think about it. I want to keep
17:54 decimation thennervous."
17:55 thickasthieves i listened to the npr thing, honestly the soundbytes didnt seem that bad
17:56 thickasthieves i can see how capture is a problem though
17:56 decimation Later in the meeting with Goldman, here's his "poking to make them nervous": "Mike Silva Just to button up one point. I know the term sheet called for a notice to your regulator. The original term sheet also called for expression of non-objection, sounds like that dropped out at some point, or...?
17:56 decimation Jake Bernstein: That’s everything he says on the topic in this meeting."
17:57 mircea_popescu anyone with even a modicum of experience in the field can tell you that this sort of "sheperded proof" is pretty much useless.
17:58 mircea_popescu not so unlike trying to audit the activity of diplomats.
17:58 decimation well, since it is fed policy to keep all meetings with banks secret, I guess only a few know the reality
17:58 mircea_popescu this is not something the plebs can do.
17:58 decimation agreed, but it's not like one needs substantial evidence to imagine that usg employees are derpy bureaucrats who kowtow to people who make literally 10x their salary
18:00 * asciilifeform suspects that, as with soviet bureaucrats, salary is only small part of the compensation package.
18:02 decimation asciilifeform: The traditional method of 'cashing out' is to take a job with the regulator's target after a few years to establish bona fides
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.13422671 = 1.6107 BTC [-] {9}
18:03 decimation at any rate, I doubt that these fed employees carry much weight anyway, because someone in goldman can make a phone call to their boss's boss's boss and work out whatever deal needs to be made
18:04 asciilifeform observation was not about weight they might carry in their domain, but in ordinary life
18:05 asciilifeform e.g., what happens if a 'fed' minion (in good standing) appears in court, with a 'plebe' accuser (or plaintiff) ?
18:05 asciilifeform do 'civil forfeiture' actions ever succeed against them? or magicked away ?
18:05 asciilifeform etc.
18:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12138 @ 0.00074632 = 9.0588 BTC [+] {2}
18:06 asciilifeform (more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.)
18:07 decimation ah, well that happened after the above Mr. Silva fired the latina with moxie: "In the statement the Fed sent us last week, they say, quote, “The decision to terminate Ms. Segarra’s employment with the New York Fed was based entirely on performance grounds, not because she raised concerns as a member of an examination team about any institution.” In the spring, a judge threw Carmen’s suit out saying the law Carmen sued the Fed
18:07 decimation under did not apply in this case"
18:08 mircea_popescu decimation i don't get why bureaucrats shouldn't kowtow.
18:10 decimation asciilifeform: re: tax authorities << http://www.govexec.com/defense/2014/07/millions-tax-debt-wont-stop-you-qualifying-pentagon-security-clearance/89831/
18:10 assbot Millions in Tax Debt Wont Stop You from Qualifying for a Pentagon Security Clearance - Defense - GovExec.com
18:11 asciilifeform millions - won't. thousands - will.
18:12 decimation well, I suspect the 'right people' (ie friends and family of the SES crowd) meet the criteria
18:12 decimation mircea_popescu: well it is likely the case that the goldman people are the 'betters' of the usg employees in many ways
18:13 mircea_popescu at least the fraction thereof that didn't start life by working for the fed.
18:13 mircea_popescu or w/e, "in an ideal world".
18:14 decimation generally those that 'start in the fed' are going to be given 'make-work' jobs anyway, because it is known that their use was delivering usg decisions, not having skills
18:14 mircea_popescu hm.
18:14 mircea_popescu not really as clear cut i dun thin
18:15 asciilifeform how much does that particular bureaucracy actually make decisions, in whatever sense, and how much just provides 'institutionalizing spraypaint' for decisions made by actual human somewhere in the loop ?
18:18 decimation asciilifeform: I suspect mainly the latter is the case
18:19 asciilifeform ;;google this sucker could go down
18:19 gribble Bush On Economy: "This Sucker Could Go Down" - Business Insider: <http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/9/bush-on-economy-this-sucker-could-go-down->; Talks Implode During a Day of Chaos; Fate of Bailout Plan Remains ...: <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/business/26bailout.html?pagewanted=all>; Warren Buffett: I Have Greater Appreciation of Pres. Bush's Handling ...: (1 more message)
18:21 decimation asciilifeform: in the beginning the 'boss' says this about his tenure on the staff of Tim Geithner during the 2008 'crisis':"
18:21 decimation Mike Silva: And when I realized that nobody had any idea how to respond to that, I went into the bathroom and threw up. Because I realized this is it, it’s just this small group of people, and right now at this moment we have no clue. I never want to get close to that moment again"
18:23 mircea_popescu lol that moment never left.
18:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00074428 = 5.5077 BTC [-] {2}
18:23 mircea_popescu osama took care of the people that could have sorted it out, back in 2001.
18:35 penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/bank-of-portugal-concerned-about-bitcoin-atm-launch/
18:37 kakobrekla ;;bc,stats
18:37 gribble Current Blocks: 323851 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 724 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34362802496.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.86154
18:48 xanthyos karlpilkington: there is no universe, only galactic corporations
18:48 xanthyos physicist dr michio kakobrekla
18:50 kakobrekla that guy is what you get if you mix arthur c clarke and oprah
18:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00074819 = 9.7639 BTC [+]
19:02 bounce so instead of electing two people essentially on how much money they spend on campaigning then have them wheel in an administration full of cronies and toadies and campaigners and contributors and whoever else they could drag out of their regular watering holes, how about... picking a bunch of randoms out of a big pile of candidates and telling them to sort it out on pain of... oh, a suitably large bond put up, up front?
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19:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.13427073 = 0.9399 BTC [+] {3}
19:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2623 @ 0.00074908 = 1.9648 BTC [+]
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19:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00074847 = 19.3105 BTC [-]
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20:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00074764 = 31.6999 BTC [-] {2}
20:18 decimation ;;ticker
20:18 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 327.5, Best ask: 328.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 328.0, 24 hour volume: 28801.57254709, 24 hour low: 322.04, 24 hour high: 365.07, 24 hour vwap: 0
20:20 decimation !up justanotheruser
20:21 justanotheruser hi
20:21 kakobrekla hi
20:21 decimation hello! what brings you here?
20:22 justanotheruser was directed here to listen to someone talk
20:22 decimation ah well this would be the place. I suggest reading the logs at log.bitcoin-assets.com if you are curious
20:23 justanotheruser thanks
20:36 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: no sir i do not
20:36 ben_vulpes remember how i was lamenting abandoning my m.e. toolchain for computers?
20:42 penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/msigna-bitcoin-wallet-to-debut-this-weekend/
20:55 * ben_vulpes is curious about cockrings now
20:55 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: can't say as i know why your cutoff tool's doing that to the piece. the mark looks like an overheating of either workpiece or cutting tool, but the geometry indicates that it was spiraling in on a single pass.
20:57 ben_vulpes i'd expect you to not be cutting so deep on a single pass (if your tooling even supported it) (due to apparently having a working understanding of machining limitations), which implies some crazy connection between out of true-ness of the workpiece maybe?
20:57 ben_vulpes but even that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
20:58 ben_vulpes sometimes one just sees weird marks on the finished pieces - typically, one programs in a light finishing cut with a sharp tool to keep qa "engineers" from failing the piece on visual inspection.
20:59 ben_vulpes also the geometry's a bit weird for a single-pass cut, which reduces the likelihood.
20:59 ben_vulpes tl;dr: I DUNNO MANG
20:59 ben_vulpes engineering response: "depends"
20:59 ben_vulpes oh lol hand machined slave collars
21:00 ben_vulpes so i helped with a wide-bore bearing one time
21:00 ben_vulpes http://psas.pdx.edu/lv2cspincan/
21:00 assbot lv2cspincan
21:01 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: there's a market for single-piece metal collars? aren't the leather ones flexible by design?
21:03 ben_vulpes <ninjashogun> jurov, hi. I'm actually a startup founder << oh look, i pin the tail on the recruiter donkey and the original spamgun shows up in an effort to lend credence to the notion that they're seperate entities
21:05 ben_vulpes <kakobrekla> imm prolly usg covert << no mp is usg covert
21:10 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> (more in that vein: are the tax authorities permitted to harass them, as if they were mortals? or need permission first.) << usg employees are notoriously immune to "mistakes" on their filings.
21:12 ben_vulpes http://otakugangsta.com/image/99115327495
21:12 assbot OTAKU GANGSTA : Photo
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21:28 decimation ben_vulpes: single-piece collars as in no hinge?
21:30 decimation re: usg officials with 'immunity' : http://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/exclusive-family-business-at-the-national-security-agency
21:30 assbot Wife: NSA Official. Husband: Exec At Firm Seeming To Do Or Seek Business With NSA
21:36 decimation ben_vulpes: that's a neat rocket assembly
21:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01060006 = 0.848 BTC [-] {7}
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22:55 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: those adult-sized tools are glorious.
22:56 * asciilifeform doesn't even own an indexer yet...
23:09 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes lifetime slavegirls have little use for leather collars.
23:09 mircea_popescu for one thing, you can't really shower with one.
23:10 * asciilifeform recommends inconel - theoretically good for a millenium or three in salt water
23:10 mircea_popescu nah, copper compounds aren't tolerated well by the skin.
23:10 mircea_popescu silver alloys, especially silversteel.
23:10 asciilifeform precious little cu in there
23:11 mircea_popescu don;t take much. all cu oxides are poisony.
23:11 asciilifeform and it does its job precisely by refusing to react with just about anything, esp. at st.
23:11 asciilifeform stp
23:12 mircea_popescu o wait this is the ni-chromium thing nm
23:12 asciilifeform see also 'hastelloy'.
23:12 mircea_popescu my bad
23:13 mthreat damn I want to buy an L-39 jet. http://www.l39.com/content/faq
23:13 assbot FAQ | L-39 Enthusiasts
23:14 penguirker New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/cryptocoinsnews-is-anything-but/
23:16 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> <kakobrekla> imm prolly usg covert << no mp is usg covert << no u
23:17 cazalla more like convert amirite
23:17 mircea_popescu pervert, anyway.
23:18 mircea_popescu cazalla btw, wow on your killing it with that thing.
23:18 mircea_popescu you gonna keep this 10 a day rythm ?
23:18 mircea_popescu because if you do you win.
23:18 cazalla time will tell i guess
23:18 mircea_popescu a good third of why trilema is so powerful is that i goddamn post.
23:21 decimation for me titanium works well on my skin
23:21 decimation but it's difficult to machine obviously
23:21 mircea_popescu titanium is usually cast afaik
23:22 decimation avoid nickel. platinum works for me too but a bit pricey :)
23:23 mircea_popescu not really that pricey. you wouldn't want more than a couple of ounces given that weight harms tissue
23:23 mircea_popescu and a couple of ounces aren't that much of a fortune
23:25 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/R4EbgZN
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23:25 assbot police show. - Imgur
23:26 asciilifeform ^ actual show in my town
23:26 decimation platinum also develops a neat grayish patina
23:26 decimation asciilifeform: one wonders why the police need a .50 cal rifle
23:27 asciilifeform i asked
23:27 asciilifeform policeman helpfully explained, that it was decreed that they must have a few in order to stop cars...
23:27 asciilifeform maintained that it has never been put to this use yet.
23:27 asciilifeform and pointed out that if i want one, it can be bought for about 5k usd.
23:28 mircea_popescu how is a .5 rifle stop cars ?
23:28 asciilifeform same way you stop airplane with it
23:28 asciilifeform (a round through the radiator, most practically)
23:28 decimation I know a few private citizens that own full-auto machine guns
23:29 mircea_popescu so wait, you stop the car coming at you ?
23:29 decimation you need to fill out the right forms and have someone with a note from Stalin give you leave
23:29 mircea_popescu afaik the ballistic car stopers is shooting the tires. which can be done with a bb gun really
23:29 asciilifeform decimation: and pay 50K+ usd
23:29 decimation as I recall it was also a couple $$ per shell
23:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: afaik they are forbidden to shoot at the tires - it results in an out-of-control spin, demolishes unrelated cars
23:30 mircea_popescu and blowing up the cylinders does not ?
23:30 cazalla BingoBoingo, i'm not so sure about that new background colour
23:30 asciilifeform why would it ?
23:31 decimation for the purposes of police, it would seem much more practical to use 'stop strips'
23:31 mircea_popescu i dunno dood, jagged bits of hot metal going any which way
23:31 decimation I doubt any political figure in the dc area is going to allow someone to fire a small cannon at a criminal
23:31 asciilifeform there was also a chopper, several $mil, according to its keeper. fitted with 100k ir camera.
23:32 asciilifeform according to the lecturer - can stay aloft for a whole 2 hours!
23:32 decimation asciilifeform: human-piloted or otherwise?
23:32 asciilifeform human
23:32 asciilifeform tiny thing though, like a flying police car.
23:32 asciilifeform seats four men
23:33 decimation maryland state police used those eurocopter doulphins for awhile
23:33 asciilifeform keeper lamented that it had no arms or armour
23:33 decimation obligatory: https://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2012/09/17/massachusetts-state-police-new-helicopter/
23:33 assbot Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Massachusetts State Police New Helicopter
23:33 mircea_popescu lol flying police car
23:33 decimation maryland was/is the only state that had a fully government owned/operated medivac system
23:34 decimation to take care of the 30k people who die per year on the roads, of course
23:35 asciilifeform chopper specialist explained that his machine exists solely to search for people
23:36 decimation I guess if you have a few $tn to blow every year you gotta have your manned people-search helicopters
23:36 asciilifeform this was a county police dept.
23:36 asciilifeform (not even state)
23:37 dub sorry is this argument that you don't want to have your life saved by this service because tax?
23:37 mircea_popescu "A posting every day; an interesting idea every three months…" not a bad byline
23:38 decimation when I was living in maryland it struck me as very odd about how powerful the local counties were
23:38 asciilifeform dub: the chopper (not in photo) does not evacuate, it was a kind of flying version of ordinary police car
23:38 dub praps tehre should be a non-resuss clause inherent in being a libertard
23:38 decimation dub: I was implying that other localities get by with civilian pilots
23:39 mircea_popescu dub the argument is that if you spend ten grand on an omlette when your entire weekly budged is 6k, people coming in to derp about how "so you don't want to eat" get a pie to the face.
23:39 mircea_popescu here's yours.
23:42 decimation asciilifeform: I considered living in pg county once - until I realized how high the local property tax rates were
23:43 mircea_popescu decimation you don;'t really have to own property to live there tho, do you ?
23:43 asciilifeform decimation: these don't really get rolled into rent effectively, so i don't much care
23:43 dub these wage numbers are terrifying
23:43 decimation yeah this is a good point. I rent now and I'm reluctant to get back into the real estate bezzle world
23:44 joecool decimation: NJ has had that since the 80's, just took delivery of 5 new helicopters in the past year or two
23:44 decimation if you lived in say, bowie, you would have to pay nearly 2% per year
23:44 dub someone instructing others in teh use of aircraft earns $50k?
23:45 asciilifeform get back into << as for me, i was never in
23:45 mircea_popescu this shit's epic.
23:45 mircea_popescu http://nypost.com/2012/05/06/brutal-system-of-teen-beatings-continues-at-rikers-islands-rndc-prison/
23:45 assbot Brutal system of teen beatings continues at Rikers Islands RNDC prison | New York Post
23:45 mircea_popescu "
23:45 mircea_popescu AMONG THE VICTOMS: Eighteen-year-old Christopher Robinson (pictured) was killed in 2008 by thugs in "The Program", a brutal heiarchy which victomizes youths at Rikers Island including an imnate who was hospitalized for a broken jaw."
23:45 decimation dub: piloting is an interesting chumpatron. most pilots earn peanuts, but they all hope to fly for the 'major' airlines and earn $300k per year
23:45 asciilifeform ;;google tournament market
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23:45 mircea_popescu sorry me'em, i cunt nit fuonds me vuwils
23:46 dub sorry. a lot less, they take a break from earnign essentially nothing to go an earn an apparently desirable $50k
23:46 mircea_popescu dub flying is a labour of love. what, you think mthreat hopes to make any sort of profit flying a jet for no reason ?
23:46 decimation http://willflyforfood.com/airline-pilot-salary/188/United-Airlines.html
23:46 assbot United Airlines Pilot Pay Rates
23:47 dub jesus
23:48 decimation http://www.cbsnews.com/news/four-female-prison-guards-impregnated-by-same-inmate/
23:48 assbot Four female prison guards impregnated by same inmate - CBS News
23:49 mircea_popescu aahahahaha
23:49 mircea_popescu ok, great one.
23:49 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwz3Kl4xFw
23:49 assbot PG Police robot demo - YouTube
23:49 asciilifeform ^ from same
23:49 decimation of course only maryland can explain why they hire women to guard hardened gangsters
23:50 mircea_popescu so basically they were slavegirls
23:50 mircea_popescu going by the tattooing
23:50 decimation yes
23:51 mircea_popescu this guy got me licked.
23:51 mircea_popescu ;;rate tavon 3 nigga's got the moves.
23:51 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
23:51 mircea_popescu well, maybe one day.
23:51 decimation there is something poetic about a prisoner literally impregnating the state's authority personified, and it says something about usg & friends
23:51 mircea_popescu says more about the guy.
23:52 decimation yes, he's no doubt a supreme 'alpha' type
23:53 decimation baltimore isn't exactly known for its quality governance . watch "The Wire" if you wanna know the details
23:54 decimation asciilifeform: that's a neat little two-wheel bot
23:55 asciilifeform decimation: it costs, allegedly, $maxint
23:55 asciilifeform (forget exact amount - 5 figures usd)
23:55 decimation heh. I think it could be built for less than $500
23:57 decimation that little bot seems more useful than a 0.50 cal rifle to a policeman. ideally, one could use it to 'scout' to see if "worst case swat team" is really required, rather than joe the constable
23:57 dub less than $50 in bulk
23:58 * asciilifeform asked 'ever use it.' lecturer replied 'many times'
23:58 decimation I suspect a majority of engineers working in the us feed their families on this business model
23:58 asciilifeform also lecture concerned specifically the 'swat team'
23:59 decimation Well, if I were going to bust open a door, I would want to know what is behind it
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