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00:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063792 = 7.9102 BTC [+]
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00:44 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.3260912 BTC. Current weight: 52,800.
00:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063792 = 3.1896 BTC [+]
00:54 artifexd S.MPOE fell off a cliff again? Volatility that almost rivals BTC itself.
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03:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 922 @ 0.00068615 = 0.6326 BTC [-] {11}
03:21 Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.3260912 BTC. Current weight: 52,477.
03:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00063768 = 3.2203 BTC [-]
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04:25 punkman artifexd, yeah there's a few nice coins. I liked the Antana concept, but they stopped making new ones. http://antanacoins.com/
04:25 assbot Physical bitcoin statistic coin by ANTANA
04:29 punkman after sleeping on it, I think I should try to make some of my own coins. Design suggestions welcome.
04:31 mircea_popescu ;;google 1MqDj3fUp5Zdh275oS9NBAmcjYmuKzFNHL
04:31 gribble Bitcoin Block #319107 - Blockchain.info: <https://blockchain.info/block-index/460604>; Bitcoin Block #318781 - Blockchain.info: <https://blockchain.info/block-index/460264/00000000000000001a8c82d0b7dab6059e23a84be5be7a7b5209e99474b24573>; Bitcoin Block #319030 - Blockchain.info: <https://blockchain.info/block-index/460526>
04:31 punkman mircea_popescu: you ever seen my huge copper round ? << I thought you'd pull out a dick pic right there
04:31 mircea_popescu now why did you think that.
04:31 punkman but yeah that MJB design is everywhere. I think I might grab a couple.
04:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17681 @ 0.00063697 = 11.2623 BTC [-] {4}
04:38 punkman http://aeon.co/magazine/psychology/humans-are-wired-for-negativity-for-good-or-ill/
04:38 assbot Praise feels good, but negativity is stronger Jacob Burak Aeon
04:39 punkman another thing supporting the "all on No" proposition
04:41 mircea_popescu decimation blind people being able to do something with themselves other than mope isn't such a bad thing
04:42 mircea_popescu <kakobrekla> i wanna complain to the bitcoin CEO. <<< satoshi is dead son.
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04:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00063851 = 11.4613 BTC [+] {4}
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06:12 punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703713.0
06:12 assbot [WTS] Ultra Rare 1BTC Silver-Gold Round /w "The Golden Heart" error!
06:12 punkman 10 BTC seems a bit expensive
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07:10 RagnarDanneskjol http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/09/gradually-sunsetting-sha-1.html
07:10 assbot Google Online Security Blog: Gradually sunsetting SHA-1
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07:38 BingoBoingo http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fbi-finally-says-how-it-legally-pinpointed-silk-roads-server/
07:38 assbot The FBI Finally Says How It ‘Legally’ Pinpointed Silk Road’s Server | Threat Level | WIRED
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07:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00063506 = 6.2236 BTC [-]
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08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 80 @ 0.00712561 = 0.57 BTC [-] {7}
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08:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00063695 = 7.9619 BTC [+]
08:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2627 @ 0.0006363 = 1.6716 BTC [-]
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09:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.16998 = 1.6998 BTC [+] {2}
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10:51 asciilifeform http://www.van-ads.com/venues << all zero but one ?
10:51 assbot Vulpes Ad Network
10:52 * asciilifeform not surprised re: which one.
10:57 Apocalyptic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=771336.msg8698994#msg8698994
10:57 assbot Free $5 in Bitcoins from Coinbase!
10:58 Apocalyptic Coinbase buying bitcoin users info for cheap
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11:37 artifexd !s cryptominer
11:37 assbot 0 results for 'cryptominer' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cryptominer
11:48 BingoBoingo !up ThickAsThieves
11:49 asciilifeform 'There once was a cyber attack; / The Chinese our network did hack. / Since arguably / Cyber’s WMD / Do you think we should nuke them right back?' << actual example from usg's limerick contest. (http://cryptome.org/2014/09/natsec-thesis.pdf)
11:49 ThickAsThieves lol check out newegg propaganda
11:49 ThickAsThieves http://blog.newegg.com/saving-bitcoin-good-idea/
11:49 assbot Why Saving Your Bitcoin is Not a Good Idea | Newegg Unscrambled
11:49 ThickAsThieves "If Bitcoin is Used for Evil, Why is It Still Good?"
11:49 ThickAsThieves "With so many great reasons to use Bitcoin instead of cash or credit cards, merchants strongly believe that the good far outweighs the evil. Unfortunately, many people that own Bitcoin aren’t using it to complete transactions, but are instead hoarding the cryptocurrency as an investment.
11:49 ThickAsThieves This is a bad idea."
11:49 ThickAsThieves If you own Bitcoin, it’s much better to spend it than to save it for two reasons:
11:49 ThickAsThieves It could become worthless overnight.
11:49 ThickAsThieves Its future depends on it.
11:50 ThickAsThieves awesome
11:52 ThickAsThieves "It’s important to know that Bitcoin’s value is too volatile to be worth much today. That’s why most retailers who accept it as payment immediately sell. This point is from Duke University finance professor Campbell Harvey, who hopes to offer a course in cryptofinance in 2015."
11:57 asciilifeform obligatory:
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 77 @ 0.01045647 = 0.8051 BTC [+] {3}
11:57 asciilifeform 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Don?t let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar)
11:57 assbot People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.40905957 BTC to 15`371 shares, 9167 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 4.65745140 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 405 satoshi per share
12:12 mod6 %tslb
12:12 atcbot Time Since Last ATC Block: 0 hour(s), 55 minutes
12:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00063886 = 2.3638 BTC [-]
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12:34 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
12:34 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 483.0, Best ask: 484.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 484.0, 24 hour volume: 3887.03400760, 24 hour low: 473.03, 24 hour high: 484.0, 24 hour vwap: 479.305821768
12:34 mircea_popescu fluffypony people be loath to paypal.
12:35 fluffypony yeah, but risk is all on my side :)
12:36 mircea_popescu nah, there've been cases where paying acct got locked.
12:36 mircea_popescu i don't mean from a "you run off with monyz" perspective, loath. i mean "paypal=assholes not keep that much there" perspective.
12:36 punkman I've had PP limited twice when I spent a lot in one transaction
12:36 fluffypony oh yeah see what you're saying
12:39 ThickAsThieves http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5
12:39 assbot dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat
12:40 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: lol
12:41 mircea_popescu "We appreciate you being" did this get accepted meanwhile ?
12:41 mircea_popescu what do they appreciate you or the being ?
12:41 fluffypony I recently did about $35 000 through the local exchange, and all they did was email me to ask if there's anything they can do to improve their site
12:41 ThickAsThieves i'll translate
12:41 ThickAsThieves "we know you wont do business with us if we ask, but we'd like to try asking anyway"
12:41 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves maybe tell them that lol.
12:42 mircea_popescu "find a business model where you don't need to ask or you don't have a business"
12:42 ThickAsThieves i found the email outright offensive
12:43 mircea_popescu well that means your brain's not fallen to sclerosis yet :D
12:46 ThickAsThieves my bank never asked squat, fwiw
12:48 Bet placed: 13.520356 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 76.00227226 BTC. Current weight: 38,548.
12:50 mircea_popescu o.O
12:50 mircea_popescu fluffypony decided ah what the fuck, i can't sell this btc for paypal, might as well dump it on gambling.
12:51 fluffypony LOL
12:55 asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5 << why use 'coinbase' again ?
12:55 assbot dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat
12:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform to give the usg the false impression that its idiocy may work ?
12:57 mircea_popescu ;;bc,diff
12:57 gribble Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.
12:57 * asciilifeform is a believer in vonnegut's 'you are what you pretend to be, so be careful what you pretend to be'
12:57 mod6 ;;bc,stats
12:57 gribble Current Blocks: 319411 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 1132 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 56 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29369109956.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.07465
12:57 mircea_popescu a ty mod6
12:58 mod6 yw
12:58 mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.7 * (1.15)**2
12:58 gribble 3.57075
12:58 mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.7 * (1.05)**2
12:58 gribble 2.97675
12:58 * asciilifeform is more or less permanently allergic to public btc exchanges of any kind
12:58 mircea_popescu ;;calc 2.7 * (1.068)**2
12:58 gribble 3.0796848
12:58 kakobrekla <asciilifeform> http://dpaste.com/2ZAFGC5 << why use 'coinbase' again ? << cause they got inquisitioned out of bitstamp
12:58 assbot dpaste: 2ZAFGC5: Coinbase Inquisition, by tat
12:59 mircea_popescu i have nfi why that bet is so lopsided on yes. for that matter, there could very well be a single block retarget before oct.
13:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you familiar with premedieval economy in the north of europe ?
13:01 mircea_popescu the sounds of scania and all that
13:01 asciilifeform only vaguely
13:02 mircea_popescu the reason the hansa existed, as a basis for german style civilisation and the fundament of what was later dutch (and, after the blodless dutch conquest of britannia, english commercialism)
13:02 mircea_popescu was this peculiar behaviour of fish, to congregate in this particular spot up north, to the point they got so thick you could fish with a sword.
13:03 mircea_popescu this created a cheap source of protein as well as incentives to industrialise, because salt was needed to cure the meat so it kept.
13:03 mircea_popescu conveniently, salt was very easy to mine, and the process to cure very simple. it never ceases to amaze anyone who seriously studies anthropology not that water is conveniently a universal solvent AND AT THE SAME TIME has a huge caloric capacity,
13:04 mircea_popescu making it thus possible for stable solute temperatures - althrough in principle there's no absolute reasons requiring this fortuitous coincidence life requires absolutely
13:04 mircea_popescu but that every single other step was always althrough history equaly conveniently "just as long as the baby's shins"
13:04 asciilifeform 'anthropic principle' etc etc
13:04 mircea_popescu quite.
13:04 * asciilifeform pages max tegmark
13:04 mircea_popescu moving on : as far as the at-the-time humans could tell, the fish were "a gift from god", who ordered them to surrender to human interest.
13:05 kakobrekla great chinese usb b connector. you can rotate it 180 degrees and plugs in fine.
13:05 mircea_popescu however, we know better right. so why did the fish regularly engage in a behaviour which the other party considered suicidal ?
13:05 asciilifeform kakobrekla: you can make from normal one with hacksaw.
13:05 mircea_popescu kakobrekla it's supposed to do that.
13:05 kakobrekla too bad you cant undo it with a hacksaw.
13:05 mircea_popescu lol
13:05 kakobrekla trolls!
13:07 asciilifeform coinbase users as migratory herring.
13:07 * asciilifeform likes.
13:08 mircea_popescu tis what it is.
13:08 mircea_popescu not people but things, nevertheless things have their own substance too. they exist.
13:10 mircea_popescu and now you know more of business than virtually any business major in the continental us.
13:10 mircea_popescu the entire fucking thing is basically cargo-cultism trying to re-enact the sounds of scania. somehow.
13:10 mircea_popescu maybe if we put the twigs like this...
13:12 punkman from the btc-loans-are-great dept. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289668.msg5449688#msg5449688
13:12 assbot Design a physical Bitcoin - (CONTEST IS CLOSED)
13:13 asciilifeform physical Bitcoin << two-legged vacuum lamp half filled with gallium.
13:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/let-me-give-you-ideas/
13:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5889 @ 0.00063886 = 3.7622 BTC [-]
13:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/let-me-give-you-ideas/#comment-107457
13:17 assbot Let me give you ideas pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
13:21 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c hey is the wol chainwatcher behind on blocks ?
13:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform aw shit nature beat me to it.
13:23 asciilifeform careful whatchawishfor.
13:25 mircea_popescu http://sportysnetwork.com/airfacts/wp-content/blogs.dir/13/files/2012/06/bonanza-ad.jpg << aparently aviatics in the us have a long history of this retarded pitch
13:26 mircea_popescu "you know what'd be best for you ? if after a long harrowing day you get to worry about thge weather and take off stressed in the dark"
13:26 mircea_popescu fucking conspiracy of gold diggers
13:38 BingoBoingo Fucking doing it so wrong http://www.isp.state.il.us/crimhistory/CHRIdecrypt.pdf
13:39 mircea_popescu punkman true story : one of the cab companies in timisoara is called "bimbo vest"
13:39 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: every usg fiefdom, large and small, has own fake pgp.
13:40 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: wait till you see what u.s. military orders are signed with (when signed!)
13:40 mircea_popescu psp.
13:40 BingoBoingo fkt?
13:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: bimbo vest << in usa, we have 'bimba' - they make pneumatic & hydraulic pistons. ubiquitous.
13:41 mircea_popescu in costa rica, the wonderbread supplier is called BIMBO
13:41 mircea_popescu http://www.grupobimbo.com/es/index.html
13:41 assbot Inicio :: Grupo Bimbo
13:43 asciilifeform airplane scam << https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERCO_Ercoupe#mediaviewer/File:1946_Ercoupe_Advertisement_in_Skyways.jpg << i live near the ruins of a factory where these were once made.
13:43 assbot ERCO Ercoupe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
13:45 * asciilifeform is not convinced that cheap civil aviation in usa died a natural (i.e. market) death.
13:45 kakobrekla dc polarity protection without a diode (cant afford -0.5v) and without a relay (cant afford another -70ma) anyone ?
13:46 asciilifeform kakobrekla: LTC4412.
13:46 kakobrekla ;;google ltc4412
13:46 gribble LTC4412 - Linear Technology: <http://www.linear.com/product/LTC4412>; LTC4412 - Linear Technology: <http://www.linear.com/docs/1527>; Purchase LTC4412 direct from Linear Technology: <http://www.linear.com/purchase/LTC4412>
13:46 asciilifeform kakobrekla: or equivalent ( ask your supplier for 'ideal diode' )
13:47 * mircea_popescu is curious what bomb kakobrekla is making
13:47 kakobrekla one that goes bang.
13:47 asciilifeform kakobrekla: you can also use a plain mosfet if you know what you're doing
13:48 kakobrekla better we assume i dont.
13:48 asciilifeform kakobrekla: 'ideal diode' then.
13:51 kakobrekla might just do the trick.
13:53 punkman mircea_popescu: idea #1, kinda: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10911242/At-last-the-clothes-store-that-lets-you-shoplift-for-a-day.html
13:53 assbot At last, the clothes store that lets you shoplift for a day - Telegraph
13:53 asciilifeform kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2T065Axn
13:53 mircea_popescu shit. my ideas ;/
13:53 asciilifeform kakobrekla: cheapo.
13:54 mircea_popescu punkman afaik that's how 90% of white women uder 30 shop for clothes.
13:55 kakobrekla ty asciilifeform
13:55 mircea_popescu i recall this particularly instructive event when derpy noob woman started her own couture brand & shop
13:55 mircea_popescu at some financial risk. but then her worries were rest at ease when > 25% of stock sold within a week
13:55 mircea_popescu and then she went under as 90% of that was returned within another week
13:56 punkman that's why you sell them online, and let them pay for shipping to return
13:56 ThickAsThieves ha! i know that girl in the stock image on punkman's link
13:56 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves what happened to her nose ?
13:56 ThickAsThieves she's got a lot of freckles for a mixed girl
13:58 punkman how's this for a coin inscription: ducunt volentem fata, nolentem trahunt
13:58 ThickAsThieves pretty good
13:59 mircea_popescu make it ducunt volentem Bitcoinae, nolentem trahunt
14:01 ThickAsThieves ;;rated ben_vulpes
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14:01 ThickAsThieves ;;rated benkay
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14:03 ThickAsThieves ;;rate ben_vulpes 2 Met IRL for drinks and neither of us murdered the other
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14:06 ThickAsThieves http://www.wired.com/2014/09/for-sale-soon-the-worlds-first-google-glass-detector/
14:06 assbot For Sale Soon: The World’s First Google Glass Detector | Threat Level | WIRED
14:07 mircea_popescu A young lad who climed up in a tree was stung in the balls by a bee.He then made oodles of money by oozing pure honey every time he attempted to pee.
14:09 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: as if the vendors of the hated gizmos really had to include, e.g, 'google' in the hello packet.
14:10 mircea_popescu so basically that thing does... nothing.
14:12 asciilifeform being zapped - is voluntary.
14:13 mircea_popescu technology keeps empowering betas to be weird thus pissing women off
14:17 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves ;;rate ben_vulpes 2 Met IRL for drinks and neither of us murdered the other << lol neither of you strike as teh murderin' kind
14:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: empowering betas to be weird >> http://www.wired.com/2014/09/armys-new-laser-cannon-blasts-drones-out-of-the-sky-even-in-fog << e.g. this. yes, let's draw a ruler in the sky straight to own artillery position,
14:17 assbot Army’s New Laser Cannon Blasts Drones Out of the Sky, Even in Fog | Autopia | WIRED
14:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i think it's called shoot and move.
14:19 mircea_popescu the funny part here being how the line of the us agitprop was "o laser can't hurt our drones" for as long as it took em to finally get a laser mounted on a truck.
14:19 asciilifeform not even to mention the traditional cheap answer to such tricks (ablative coating.)
14:20 mircea_popescu i have nfi why they imagine it'll be useful against "rockets" and mortar shot.
14:21 mircea_popescu it's quite obviously there to protect the us spy ships from their own drones, which apparently the chnese are mostly lifting
14:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fat rockets dropping on parachutes, self-aimed at tank turrets (see yesterday's film with ukrs clobbered by such. 1980s soviet product.)
14:21 asciilifeform only this rocket.
14:22 mircea_popescu " for use against incoming rockets, artillery and mortar strikes" the man said.
14:23 mircea_popescu "the amazing technicolor rainbow suit. more effective than kevlar!"
14:23 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
14:23 asciilifeform incidentally, i've the pill against 'batteries suck, can't make useful drones in jungle conditions'
14:24 asciilifeform wire guidance and... wire power.
14:24 asciilifeform a la 'PTURS'
14:24 mircea_popescu so basically a very advanced kite ?
14:24 asciilifeform but with five-dollar electric motors.
14:24 mircea_popescu and hire a bunch of middle easterner kite flyers ?
14:25 asciilifeform nah, same as the customary model flying machine
14:25 mircea_popescu (you know, the folk who know how to kite duel and cut wires ?)
14:25 asciilifeform but unlimited endurance, and range as long as your spool
14:25 asciilifeform objective can even be to wrap enemy in wire.
14:25 asciilifeform (connect 100kV when done.)
14:25 mircea_popescu "our strategy is to win by covering everything in plastic"
14:26 asciilifeform if you can cover, e.g., 'predator' - in mylar - it's a brick.
14:27 asciilifeform incidentally, you don't need two wires to power the machine.
14:27 asciilifeform (high-frequency ac through 1 wire, rectifier a la tesla on the 'rocket' end.)
14:33 asciilifeform kite << nope, ordinary 'n-copter' or even 'rocket' with propeller for thrust and servo-controlled fins. enemy can't jam - has to outrun or cut wire. can include whatever instruments (e.g. ir optics) you like.
14:42 chetty asciilifeform, forget the gasenwagen you'll get a nice little lab to build toys (with bars of course)
14:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4941 @ 0.0006363 = 3.144 BTC [-]
14:42 asciilifeform lol if stalin comes back from grave.
14:43 asciilifeform 'I asked him to describe the equipment needed to focus x-rays at a lock and to read them, thinking that the “source” of the radiation would have to be large and well-shielded... ...The answer I received was quite amazing, but I guess not surprising. I was told that the isotopes which gave off the radiation were contained in a handheld tool about the size of a large flashlight. It was pointed at the lock and
14:43 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
14:43 asciilifeform a separate piece of x-ray sensitive film was used to read the scatter. When I inquired about the safety of the operatives and their exposure to the potentially deadly radiation, Nicolai laughed...'
14:43 asciilifeform (http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2011/05/19/a-former-kgb-covert-entry-expert-speaks << oldie)
14:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00063233 = 7.9674 BTC [-]
14:49 mircea_popescu <chetty> asciilifeform, forget the gasenwagen you'll get a nice little lab to build toys (with bars of course) << the special wagenb :D
15:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00063186 = 10.5837 BTC [-]
15:06 fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/uBUc8be.jpg
15:10 asciilifeform fluffypony: bonus points for the unmistakeably-soviet 'maxim' (2nd from bottom.)
15:10 fluffypony lol
15:25 * asciilifeform found out today that titanium toothpicks are sold. and wishes to know what they are used for.
15:25 asciilifeform gauss gun darts ?
15:27 asciilifeform (perhaps not. Ti has terrible conductivity.)
15:35 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/okpay-refunds-mtgox/
15:40 mircea_popescu !up deafboy
15:41 mircea_popescu !up mculp
15:41 mircea_popescu %p
15:41 atcbot No data returned from CoinMiner.net
15:41 atcbot [PityThePool Hashrate]: 592.51 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.23 TH/s
15:44 mircea_popescu http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/camel-toe-challenge.jpg
15:46 mircea_popescu http://naughtybits.us/ generally not so bad
15:46 assbot Naughty Bits
15:49 mircea_popescu http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/fart-like-a-clydesdale_small.jpg
15:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/cok-juice.jpg :D
15:56 mircea_popescu now i get why suka.
15:56 asciilifeform lol!
15:59 decimation re: small plane safety: http://philip.greenspun.com/flying/safety " If you don't want to die like JFK, Jr., who became disoriented on a dark and hazy night over water, don't fly at night or don't fly at night unless you're absolutely sure that it will be clear with a bright moon. If you don't want to die when a 25-year-old part fails in mid-air, get a new airplane. "
15:59 assbot General Aviation Safety
16:00 decimation "I will be there on June 5 at 6:00 pm." Pilots of light aircraft who utter sentences of that form are very high risk pilots, regardless of skill level.
16:00 mircea_popescu also in the same spirit : http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Heat-strokes-are-really-bad.gif make sure you get laid often enough.
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00063674 = 1.9421 BTC [+]
16:01 decimation I have a simple solution to small aircraft accidents: don't let humans fly
16:01 mircea_popescu can it be extended to "don't let humans drive" ?
16:01 decimation yeah, pretty much, but car driving is a 'human right' in the us
16:02 mircea_popescu so then. so's flying.
16:02 decimation I just heard this podcast on "free market" environmentalism: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/08/terry_anderson.html
16:02 assbot " + soundfiledesc + "
16:03 decimation his solution to "save the wales"? attach transponders so that humans can claim ownership
16:03 mircea_popescu lol
16:03 mircea_popescu i think when people talk of saving things, the don't mean save them in the sense cockroaches are saved.
16:04 decimation hehe yeah but they should. I suspect more chickens live and die in the us alone every year than all of humanity
16:05 mircea_popescu yeah but what life is that.
16:06 mircea_popescu if there was a way to save whales but it meant bottling them... if there was a way to attain immortality but you had to be an overweight, socially awkward shut-in ? etc.
16:06 asciilifeform dulap!
16:07 * asciilifeform recently learned that, for some niche applications, the known substitutes for whale oil are rather poor.
16:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/aqua-man.jpg ask and thou shalt receive.
16:07 mircea_popescu yeah, there's still no substitute for petrified whale vomit.
16:09 asciilifeform large number of gearbox failures in '70s was blamed on the faux oil.
16:10 asciilifeform similar to present-day situation with pb-free solders.
16:10 decimation asciilifeform: I thought that the usg signed stuff with rsa certs generally
16:10 asciilifeform decimation: yes, but with what.
16:11 decimation well, certs that are hand-rolled on the thighs of young maidens by contractors with specific (unstated) qualifications: http://www.forge.mil/ExternalPKI.html
16:12 asciilifeform (typically - ms-outlook.)
16:13 mircea_popescu the army hasn't had a young maiden singe semiramis.
16:13 mircea_popescu you're thinking navy.
16:13 mircea_popescu and even there it's just the head.
16:14 decimation re: navy << http://www.navytimes.com/article/20131115/NEWS06/311150017/-Fat-Leonard-fallout-Officers-talk-growing-bribery-scandal-epic-parties- They are more willing to pay for Singaporean whores
16:15 decimation "Federal prosecutors allege that Leonard Glenn Francis, the head of the Navy’s primary husbanding company in Asia, regularly enticed naval officers to direct warships to more lucrative ports for his business by offering bribes including junkets, prostitutes, cash — even “Lion King” tickets."
16:16 mircea_popescu what exactly makes this an allegation ?
16:16 decimation well, it's the 'navy times'
16:16 mircea_popescu if he hadn't he should be fucking fired for being a humorless, idiotic puritan and bad for business.
16:17 decimation this goes to what those in the us perceive as 'corruption'.
16:18 mircea_popescu yes, but then again the us is chiefly known for having squandered a fortune and built up the history's largest pile of unserviced ious.
16:18 asciilifeform 'corruption' in usa is just the same as, e.g., russian 'corruption' - took some, didn't share upwards with superior.
16:18 mircea_popescu hardly a collection of people to follow in business.
16:19 asciilifeform (with regards to which 'corruption' ends up a matter for criminal courts)
16:20 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OAqx7CJ1ew
16:20 assbot Chris Rock shows the Black Progress (Tiger Woods) - YouTube
16:22 decimation yeah if you zoom out, you realize this guy (or really his navy masters) is getting dinged for throwing a good party for some tired sailors in exchange for a few spare mil$ here and there: corruption! Throwing away trillions on various welfare/healthfare schemes: legitimate!
16:23 mircea_popescu decimation the difference ? "poor people aren't having FUN on those foodstamps".
16:24 mircea_popescu it's so provincially, mean and narrow minded puritanism it bleeds.
16:24 mircea_popescu there should be a word for this specifically american idiocy phenomenon. derpitanism or something.
16:24 asciilifeform obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/08/miserable-pursuits.html
16:24 assbot ClubOrlov: Miserable Pursuits
16:24 decimation the permanent bureaucrats who run usg are famous for this attitude
16:25 mircea_popescu meanwhile at the other ranch, who the fuck needs viagra http://naughtybits.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/hole-in-one5_small.jpg
16:27 decimation I think this 'Puritanism' stems from a basic lack of skills on the part of the bureaucratic leaders. i.e. if you don't know how to write a contract for a nuclear submarine, you try to make sure that your employees are well dressed and that 'decorum' is kept.
16:28 mircea_popescu this may be how it survived, but no. it stems from stupid us women going to churches run by stupid irish men, back in 1950.
16:29 mircea_popescu and from the fact that the idiotic population of the us allowed the tavern lobby to be broken up and replaced by the church lobby.
16:29 mircea_popescu worst fucking choice ever.
16:29 mircea_popescu a country in which dyonisos is defeated by apollon may do well for a while. but in this case, dyonisos was defeated by arachne.
16:29 mircea_popescu what the fuck even.
16:30 mircea_popescu (arachne, for they innocent of the classics, was a rude halfwit spinster - think modern day ceo-wannabe forum kid)
16:32 decimation well when you give the vote to every breathing biped in a certain area this is pretty much what happens
16:32 mircea_popescu not so.
16:32 mircea_popescu it is actually a quite unique phenomenon.
16:33 asciilifeform 'I receive Welfare. I live off your labor: you pay taxes and I don't do shit, twice a month I head down to the clean and spacious welfare office at 1515 Broadway and pick up my check. ... What, you don't like me? You don't want to pay? It's not much—278 dollars a month. You don't want to pay. Well then why the fuck did you get me to come here, me and a whole crowd of Jews? Take it up with your propaganda—it'
16:33 asciilifeform s too strong.' -- herr limonov.
16:33 mircea_popescu lol
16:34 mircea_popescu it's nonsense anyway. the people who actually make money - and by consequence pay taxes - have little problem with limonov and a bunch of other idiots getting 300 bux a month or w/e it is they get. which is why most rich people will pick a eager young slut's rent tab & so forth. da fuck does it make a difference anyway.
16:35 mircea_popescu meanwhile poor people resent other poor people for various reasons. "she's a slut" "he's a bum" "they're too self righteous" etc.
16:35 fluffypony ;;rated danielpbarron
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16:35 decimation yeah there's some truth to that. there's a matter of scale involved too
16:35 asciilifeform rich people will pick a eager young slut's rent << quid pro quo, 'enjo kosai', etc. - not much like usg 'welfare'
16:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not so.
16:36 decimation the problem is the divorce between 'charity' and 'responsible to authority'
16:36 mircea_popescu it's the abject middle class that haggles.
16:36 asciilifeform there is not, afaik, a 'slut kolkhoz' maintained by usg...
16:36 mircea_popescu what, you think the sultan of brunei actually fucks every girl in the 500+ strong harem ?
16:36 mircea_popescu i know multiple chicks there, none of them having ever had it.
16:37 asciilifeform lol! stage extras!
16:37 danielpbarron ;;rate fluffypony 3 my PPUSD for his BTC; I sent first, he followed through no problem. double digit BTC
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16:38 mircea_popescu danielpbarron the funniest part of all of this being that all the -otc derpheads that rate you have not actually and colectively traded as much.
16:38 mircea_popescu but hey, opinions, right ? who's not got some.
16:42 mircea_popescu anyway, orlov misses the major point here. it's not about rich/poor as a measurable characteristic. some people are strong, some people are weak. whether the weak are temporarily rich or permanently poor makes little difference at all, money's not for them anyway, nor anything else good in life.
16:43 mircea_popescu so you know, telling me how strong people who temporarily became poor didn't really give much of a shit in terms of "the rich" is about as confusing as discussing pregnancy in terms of "look what people can do". tis not people, tis women and women only that can do it.
16:52 decimation "Take it up with your propaganda—it's too strong" << all manner of misery results when people start believing their own bullshit
16:57 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkYRdnxsqXM
16:57 assbot How To Get A Girl To Show You Boobs Prank - YouTube
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17:20 mod6 hahah
17:33 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
17:33 gribble Current Blocks: 319449 | Current Difficulty: 2.7428630902257874E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 320543 | Next Difficulty In: 1094 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 29685874927.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 8.22952
17:34 mircea_popescu lol it just shaved a day in two hours.
17:34 decimation ;;tslb
17:34 gribble Time since last block: 16 minutes and 8 seconds
17:35 mircea_popescu kinda curious if the winter explosion takes us into e11 by new year's
17:36 decimation !s winter explosion
17:36 assbot 0 results for 'winter explosion' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=winter+explosion
17:36 mircea_popescu decimation there's this tendency for hasing to go up significantly oct-nov-dec
17:37 decimation the winklevii fund will open sometime around then as well, which might attract more usd into btc
17:38 mircea_popescu that thing had been opening for > 1 year, and was going to matter imminently for about as long.
17:38 decimation http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-15/spiderwoman-brings-hope-to-winklevoss-twins-bitcoin-etf.html
17:38 assbot Spiderwoman Brings Hope to Winklevoss Twins Bitcoin ETF - Bloomberg
17:38 mircea_popescu it's what the french call a marote
17:41 decimation yeah that's a good point. there's not a bitbet on this point interestingly
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.16999999 = 0.51 BTC [-] {2}
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18:12 decimation http://www.governmentattic.org/12docs/FBI-USAF-AlaskastayBehindAgentProgram_1947-1954.pdf
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18:28 BingoBoingo The punter tried to tackle: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--E7xeAeZ1--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zwp2p9imqfeieamtdgne.gif
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18:45 mircea_popescu decimation there was. nobody cared.
18:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo did that guy die ?
18:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Almost seems like it doesn't it.
18:46 mircea_popescu yeah bad spinal curve
18:47 BingoBoingo Pretty sure he isn't the sort to have passed the lab component of any physics course
18:53 mircea_popescu !up dbit
19:04 asciilifeform lol! '5. Agents should not have been members of the armed forces of the United States nor employees of the United States Government. 6. Agents should be chosen from those persons who will not be logical internees of the enemy.'
19:04 asciilifeform compare with:
19:05 asciilifeform 'A portrait of an ideal agent for spetsnaz emerges something like this: a man of between fifty-five and sixty-five years of age who has never served in the army, never had access to secret documents, does not carry or own a weapon, knows nothing about hand-to-hand fighting, does not possess any secret equipment and doesn't support the Comunists, does not read the newspapers, was never in the Soviet Union and has
19:05 asciilifeform never met any Soviet citizens, leads a lonely, introspective life, far from other people, and is by profession a forester, fisherman, lighthouse-keeper, security guard or railwayman. In many cases such an agent will be a physical invalid.'
19:05 asciilifeform (suvorov's classical 'spetsnaz' - http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/08.html)
19:05 assbot --
19:09 mircea_popescu as much wank.
19:10 mircea_popescu the notion that anything like the present usg survives not defeat in the field, but merely an unfavourable if momentary turn of events is pushing it into sf.
19:10 asciilifeform document concerns usg circa 1947-1954.
19:10 asciilifeform (linked by decimation)
19:10 mircea_popescu diff story.
19:11 mircea_popescu something tells me relatively l;ittle has changed tho
19:11 mircea_popescu prolly a lot more usability, but little fundamental revision
19:11 asciilifeform lol, lusability
19:15 asciilifeform 'All Soviet interrogations are based on the assumptions that: (1) all prisoners are liars; (2) most Westerners can be bought; (3) those who cannot be bought can be broken; and (4) the process of breaking the prisoner can be continued as long as necessary to acquire the desired information.'
19:16 * asciilifeform can picture the sheer machinist-grade squareness of the bricks these folks were shitting
19:19 asciilifeform 'The rules of grammar are many and precise and the person who speaks Eskimo cannot make any ambiguous statements.' << really now.
19:20 * asciilifeform has seen this said about more than one obscure natural language, it always seems to be a reflection of the linguist's ineptitude, in practice.
19:22 BingoBoingo Or their ego being unable to accept that their research subjects might be making jokes about them in front of their face
19:23 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: by now i'd imagine that assumption is SOP. but we're dealing with a vintage piece here.
19:24 asciilifeform although, margaret mead already got pwned in samoa long before...
19:25 asciilifeform though again - joke not 'offically' exposed until '80s
19:34 nubbins` wtf is "Eskimo"
19:35 asciilifeform nubbins`: linked document (military manual) suggests a type of pidgin, which it claims can be understood in much of alaska and northeastern ussr
19:35 asciilifeform and refers to it as 'eskimo.'
19:35 nubbins` interesting
19:35 nubbins` the word eskimo is seen as derogatory in canada these days, you don't really see it in print anymore
19:36 cazalla https://www.youtube.com/v/7ljvEKOMElY state dept propaganda doesn't have shit on the ones IS make
19:36 asciilifeform in ussr, most children knew the word - as a brand label of delicious ice cream.
19:36 nubbins` heh
19:36 nubbins` in canada, we knew it as what is now called "inuit" :D
19:36 Apocalyptic same in france
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20:15 TheNewDeal ;;nethash
20:16 gribble 225405912.852
20:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00063455 = 2.8872 BTC [-]
20:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00063186 = 2.1483 BTC [-]
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21:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00063484 = 6.1262 BTC [+]
21:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00063664 = 4.8066 BTC [+]
21:30 asciilifeform http://www.mekanizmalar.com/fergusons_paradox.html
21:30 assbot Ferguson's Paradox
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21:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4081 @ 0.00063495 = 2.5912 BTC [-]
21:49 asciilifeform http://www.mekanizmalar.com/desmodromics.html
21:49 assbot Desmodromics Camshaft Mechanism
21:49 asciilifeform and many other neat pictures.
22:01 asciilifeform ^ spot the perpetuum mobile.
22:01 asciilifeform !up strup`fndr
22:02 asciilifeform ninjashogun?
22:02 asciilifeform stirrup finder ?
22:02 kakobrekla strup as in poison?
22:03 asciilifeform strup`fndr> hi, yes I am the same person (startup founder, offered services as well.)
22:03 asciilifeform !down strup`fndr
22:03 asciilifeform lol
22:06 asciilifeform ^ anyone who yearns to hear this fellow talk - can turn the required knob.
22:06 kakobrekla lol
22:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00063186 = 2.1167 BTC [-]
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22:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00063264 = 3.5428 BTC [+]
22:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.0006309 = 15.1416 BTC [-] {2}
22:19 asciilifeform !up strup`fndr
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22:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00063264 = 7.4968 BTC [+]
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23:37 TheNewDeal ThickAsThieves any foia response?
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23:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10950 @ 0.00062792 = 6.8757 BTC [-]
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