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00:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 30169 @ 0.00006671 = 2.0126 BTC [+] {14}
00:25 mircea_popescu <cazalla> old enough to remember around 2000 the red pill was called ladder theory <<< .
00:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00007375 = 0.7375 BTC [+] {10}
00:25 * asciilifeform remembers the 'ladder' essay. it was a more dour, 'dismal science' version of mocsny/PUA/whatever-it's-called-now material
00:26 asciilifeform of the 'if yer phucked, yer phucked' flavour.
00:26 mircea_popescu quite unamerican.
00:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00008396 = 0.8396 BTC [+] {4}
00:27 mircea_popescu http://www.laddertheory.com/ << it still exists btw.
00:27 assbot The Ladder Theory
00:28 cazalla mircea_popescu, it use to look much different and most of the discussion was on intellectualwhores.com, long dead
00:28 * asciilifeform saw this alive
00:29 mircea_popescu i have news for you.
00:29 mircea_popescu intellectualwhores.com
00:29 mircea_popescu Männer und Frauen – theoretisch platonisch
00:29 mircea_popescu Der Mann und die Frau sind dazu verdammt, sich zu lieben oder nicht.
00:29 * asciilifeform did once partake of the crud in great quantities, to no useful end
00:30 cazalla mircea_popescu, probably a squatter
00:30 mircea_popescu no adds, which'd be odd for squatting.
00:31 mircea_popescu ". As far as intellectual whores can determine, the average female bitch has a rating system that works like this:." << look, the original reference is even preserved./
00:31 cazalla well perhaps a holdout who still practices ladder theory all these years later. it was a forum back in the day
00:32 asciilifeform pray tell how does one 'practice' ladder theory.
00:32 asciilifeform not unlike 'practicing' heat death of the universe
00:32 cazalla asciilifeform, if you think i'm dumb now, you should've seen me at 19 parroting this shit
00:32 asciilifeform cazalla: at that same age i tried mightily to find an engineering application of it
00:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems a simple preference scoring thing neh ?
00:33 asciilifeform simple in that it succeeds in 'stretching the owl over the globe' and fitting observables to hypothesis
00:34 asciilifeform not so simple re: 'wtf should poor wretch do'
00:34 mircea_popescu "A woman's test is material. A man's test is a woman...if a man could fuck in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house." - Rabbi Dave Chappelle.
00:34 mircea_popescu this is such bs.
00:34 mircea_popescu so the first time i met this chick, about a decade ago, that had incidentally flown in on her own dime
00:35 mircea_popescu i got a switch off a tree then marched her into a dark blind alley in the scary part of town, made her leave her clothes streetside, kneel there and swooshed her a few.
00:35 mircea_popescu i have not subsequently inhabited said blind alley.
00:37 asciilifeform so there we sat, contemplating how, generally, the bigger calibre of cannon, the louder the report. and mircea_popescu woke up, reminded us how he vapourized enemies with old trusted Nd:Yag laser.
00:37 mircea_popescu http://www.laddertheory.com/images/mansladder1.jpg << is this how the "she's a 10" thing was born ?
00:37 mircea_popescu i bet it is.
00:37 asciilifeform in complete silence
00:38 mircea_popescu silence's always the sign of the most dangerous cannon.
00:39 asciilifeform most fuck in house
00:39 asciilifeform fire loud cannon
00:39 mircea_popescu im sure that's an experience that'll never be forgotten, incidentally. the sheer depravity of it.
00:39 mircea_popescu nude among the garbage, teh pain, all that. it's a thing.
00:40 mircea_popescu nfi why it should be such a big deal, but it undeniably is.
00:43 ben_vulpes once again i find myself confronted with stupid shit that shouldn't be a problem if the industry hadn't standardized on virtualized machines too small to host and serve their own images
00:43 ben_vulpes fuck s3
00:43 ben_vulpes fuck ec2
00:43 ben_vulpes fuck rds
00:44 ben_vulpes if your shit can't pay for a server beefy enough to serve itself and its assets get the fuck right out of my face
00:44 ben_vulpes rarragrhargh cheapskate clients
00:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i don't think you understand.
00:45 ben_vulpes yeah i'm clearly the retarded one here
00:45 mircea_popescu this is the unlimited shared hosting v2.0
00:45 ben_vulpes it's just SO GREAT to not actually have to manage your own hardware! look! we even have a k/v store you can post shit to!
00:46 ben_vulpes it's fucking awesome!
00:46 ben_vulpes "sorry, you can't log to a bucket in a different region"
00:46 ben_vulpes sorry. clearly something importnat was going on and i'm interrupting
00:47 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes what do you want them to do ?
00:47 mircea_popescu servers are expensive. customers are cheap.
00:47 ben_vulpes well nothing, duh. they have the stick here.
00:47 ben_vulpes now i have to have a conversation with some people who are really sold on virtualization about how either i'm a retard or these layers of indirection are not worth the fucking cost.
00:47 mircea_popescu no but even if you had it.
00:48 mircea_popescu of course they aren't lol.
00:48 ben_vulpes i burned days DAYS DAYSSSSSSS trying to get pre-signed URLs to work from java last month before giving up and hard coding AWS credentials into the deploy scripts
00:49 mircea_popescu a) don't use java ; b) lol
00:51 ben_vulpes well, clojure.
00:51 ben_vulpes but either the clojure api for s3 or the java lib underneath it have a bug in their pre-signed url implementations.
00:52 ben_vulpes the point is sudo apt-get install redis
00:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00006605 = 1.321 BTC [-] {6}
00:53 mircea_popescu hm
00:56 ben_vulpes or yum. whatever. don't care.
00:58 mircea_popescu "I invented a new type of gameI: DOOR GAME!"
00:58 mircea_popescu the shit that's on my blog jesus
00:58 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> nfi why it should be such a big deal, but it undeniably is. << theatre hue
00:59 mircea_popescu i suspect it's more in the line of "well what bad can happen to me now!"
00:59 mircea_popescu armored in the styx as it were.
01:03 ben_vulpes http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=225%2C000.00&year1=1994&year2=2014
01:03 assbot CPI Inflation Calculator
01:03 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c-7bWjQUKE << romanian old pop
01:03 assbot Andre - Prima Iubire (Official Music Video 2001) - YouTube
01:03 ben_vulpes and yet my parents house is appraised at 850k.
01:14 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/smg-july-2014-statement/
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03:04 wywialm morning, #bitcoin-assets
03:04 BingoBoingo Morning
03:05 xmj moin
03:11 BingoBoingo 1up EsteNuno
03:20 BingoBoingo !up EsteNuno
03:21 EsteNuno thanks
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04:00 punkman1 http://www.tomhcanderson.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/textanalyticscartoon80.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuIPWbUIUAAKKAA.jpg
04:00 fluffypony !up EsteNuno
04:00 fluffypony EsteNuno: same EsteNuno as the one from BTCT?
04:00 EsteNuno thanks, yes
04:00 fluffypony *BTCTalk
04:00 fluffypony ah cool cool
04:01 fluffypony punkman1: lawlz
04:03 fluffypony punkman1: you're Greek, right?
04:03 punkman1 I got the card yeah
04:04 fluffypony ok I have a language question
04:04 fluffypony and you'll have to excuse my utter ignorance
04:05 punkman1 sure
04:05 fluffypony but Greek letters in words are individual letters as they are with English, right?
04:05 punkman1 of course
04:06 fluffypony ok cool
04:06 fluffypony got to get someone to make a Greek wordlist, and wanted to make sure the rules we apply to the English one could be applied to Greek as well
04:06 punkman1 are you making glutenfree text-analytics too?
04:07 fluffypony no no no, we're making Words as a Service in the cloud
04:07 fluffypony so we can synergise our mutual interdependencies
04:07 punkman1 greek words are tricky
04:08 fluffypony trixxy little wordses
04:20 punkman1 "Last night my mate asked to use a USB port to charge his cigarette, but I was using it to charge my book. The future is stupid."
04:21 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3SVAVJB.txt )
04:21 BingoBoingo !b 1
04:23 fluffypony lol
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04:31 punkman1 https://www.alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/
04:32 punkman1 http://imgur.com/a/HVyF9
04:32 assbot PoC||GTFO - Imgur
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05:08 punkman1 http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/30/technology/kardashian-app-game/index.html?
05:08 assbot Kim Kardashian game makes $700,000 a day - Jul. 30, 2014
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05:37 BigBitz punkman1 :(
05:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.00240001 = 0.696 BTC [-] {3}
05:49 fluffypony http://www.wired.com/2014/08/feds-silk-road-investigation-violated-privacy-law-sites-alleged-creator-tells-court/
05:49 assbot Feds’ Silk Road Investigation Broke Privacy Laws, Defendant Tells Court | Threat Level | WIRED
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05:59 fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cjb74/psa_circle_and_xapo_account_insurance_does_not/
05:59 assbot PSA: Circle and Xapo account insurance does NOT cover ALL your lost bitcoins. It only covers up to $100. : Bitcoin
06:00 fluffypony that's awesome
06:00 fluffypony they won't pay anything if the loss is your fault
06:00 fluffypony they'll only pay if it's directly their fault
06:00 fluffypony and only up to $100
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06:15 BigBitz $100. nice.
06:15 BigBitz That's real strong insurance.
06:15 fluffypony "we got hacked, here's $100"
06:19 BigBitz "guys, guys, don't worry. We're hacked. We've got insurance"
06:19 BigBitz "We've sent everyone out their $100 Wal-Mart Gift Cards, thanks Insurance"
06:21 fluffypony lol
06:23 punkman1 and they'll love it because they didn't even have $100 to begin with
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09:29 chetty http://blog.oleganza.com/post/93767945708/bitcoin-is-not-compatible-with-the-state
09:29 assbot Oleg Andreev - Bitcoin is not compatible with the State
09:42 ThickAsThieves "So if you support the idea of Bitcoin, you acknowledge the hazard of entrusting the entire economy to trusted third parties. You acknowledge that the ultimate power must be spread thin among every single participant and never be entrusted in hands of a few, even if it’s a democratically elected government." Good luck with that.
09:45 ThickAsThieves "But as more and more businesses avoid paying more and more taxes, there is less money being left for the government. That means that extraction will become increasingly less effective and therefore allowing even more people to avoid taxation on even larger scale. This cycle would repeat until all government employees will run away to seek real jobs because their bosses wouldn’t be
09:45 ThickAsThieves able to pay them a single penny." can i haz some koolaid too?
09:46 ThickAsThieves i can rationalize a majority of what he's saying, but it's overconfident that everything would go exactly as he sees it
09:47 ThickAsThieves it won't
09:49 ThickAsThieves i'm also unclear as to why a 'state' (in whatever adapted form) can't exist with bitcoin around
09:55 chetty ThickAsThieves, it could but taxes would be voluntary
09:56 chetty as I believe was once hte case actually
09:56 ThickAsThieves is it voluntary to answer the door if men with guns are knocking?
09:57 ThickAsThieves sure people can leave
09:57 ThickAsThieves hopefully
09:57 ThickAsThieves but how many places to go that won't impost a state on you?
09:57 ThickAsThieves impose*
09:58 ThickAsThieves and what is a state?
09:58 ThickAsThieves and what might one look like under bitcoin
09:58 ThickAsThieves i think Oleg should explore these things too
09:59 chetty he should, but its not a bad start on some of the ideas
09:59 ThickAsThieves it's a thin line between the derps claiming the magic of bitcoin 2.0 and the magic of bitcoinpolitics 2.0
09:59 chetty I think we are all fumbling a bit, not sure where all of this leads
10:00 ThickAsThieves yes the guy did write a decent article
10:00 ThickAsThieves i'm just playing the other side
10:00 chetty always a good thing :)
10:01 punkman1 it's not bitcoin that puts the state out of business. individuals do that, perhaps empowered by bitcoin in various ways.
10:01 ThickAsThieves peter todd quit bitcoin for viacoin?
10:01 punkman1 as an individual you may have the power to not allow the state inspector count your pigs before you sell them
10:02 ThickAsThieves you might*
10:03 ThickAsThieves yes i agree bitcoin is a great tool, but it's hard for people to resist the urge to close their eyes and blink into a magical future
10:03 ThickAsThieves in most cases, a future they may never even see
10:04 ThickAsThieves someone is saying it's quite religious, and it does feel that way sometimes
10:04 ThickAsThieves was saying*
10:05 chetty I generally consider it a useful mental exercise to consider the possible extremes
10:05 punkman1 ThickAsThieves: they need the Rake: "Never believe a thing simply because you want it to be true"
10:05 ThickAsThieves so much hope and so many ideologies are projected onto bitcoin, fantasy and theory get blurred
10:06 ThickAsThieves i guess it's great tho
10:07 chetty everything gets blown up into religion these days ..global warming, feminazi, PETA
10:12 ThickAsThieves yep the political/emotional/whateverthefuck climate polarization seems to force any school of thought to require worship-like devotion
10:12 fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/IXFbo9y.jpg
10:12 fluffypony lol
10:17 fluffypony this is CoinDesk in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_F5GxCwizc
10:17 assbot Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Native Advertising (HBO) - YouTube
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10:56 chetty http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-urges-court-dismiss-charge-florida-localbitcoins-case/
10:56 assbot Bitcoin Foundation Urges Court to Dismiss Charge in Florida LocalBitcoins Case
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11:08 ThickAsThieves Good
11:09 ThickAsThieves though i doubt court cares what TBF wants
11:10 chetty I guess they accidentally do right sometimes
11:19 ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/4/5966715/hotel-fines-newlyweds-500-for-negative-yelp-reviews
11:19 assbot If your wedding guests throw shade on Yelp, this hotel will charge you $500 | The Verge
11:23 chetty hotels can now fine you?
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11:31 ThickAsThieves hotels just need a way to review customers
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1150 @ 0.0025294 = 2.9088 BTC [-] {7}
11:35 pete_dushenski as if they'll actually pay the "fine"
11:38 pete_dushenski ;;later tell fluffypony thanks man. there was a whole transition and everything: http://contravex.com/2014/07/29/the-transition/
11:38 assbot The Transition. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
11:38 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:39 pete_dushenski ;;later tell ben_vulpes oo new sizes eh? i see that survant james has already found there way into the line-up :D
11:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:40 pete_dushenski ;;later tell mircea_popescu yup, definitely mixed em up. thanks for spotting this and for the comment :)
11:40 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:40 pete_dushenski looks like mpex had a bunch of new registrants last month. que bueno
11:44 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes meh green/browns << so mp wasn't kidding! i never know sometimes...
11:46 pete_dushenski punkman1: he's a believer << show this stellartard "never say never" and he'll be a belieber too
11:46 pete_dushenski i know it worked for me.
11:50 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: maybe i'm just lazy and stupid. that's always possible. << so humble.
11:51 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: well i got a condition where i can't differentiate canadian settlements. << maybe we shouldn't have colour-coded them...
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11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71467340 BTC to 12`777 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 16.87032396 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1467 satoshi per share
12:03 pete_dushenski http://trilema.com/2014/критика-и-самокритика/ << quite enjoyed this. makes me appreciate the current state of affairs. and want to find some toes to suck.
12:03 assbot pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:03 chetty <pete_dushenski> punkman1: he's a believer << show this stellartard "never say never" and he'll be a belieber too// belivers we got, need a few more skeptics to throw mud around, imo
12:04 pete_dushenski we have skeptics
12:04 pete_dushenski but we're losing our voices over here
12:04 pete_dushenski someone get us a bottle of water
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.0008389 = 8.5148 BTC [-]
12:09 pete_dushenski zillabtc: and they all faild? << what was mircea_popescu saying about people sitting quietly and reading solving all the world's woes?
12:12 chetty http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/04/the-effect-of-ibuprofen-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-physical-pain-relief-and-its-different-for-men-and-women/
12:12 assbot The Effect of Ibuprofen That Has Nothing to Do With Physical Pain Relief (and Its Different for Men and Women) | TheBlaze.com
12:16 pete_dushenski “It’s possible that taking physical pain relievers provides men with more cognitive resources to express the pain they feel,” << alcohol seems to work this way
12:18 chetty probably same mechanism really
12:20 pete_dushenski decimation: as happens in societies without stable property rights. If you do this at all you can expect an immediately higher default premium which would make an economy undercapitalized." <<
12:22 pete_dushenski "undercapitalization" in economies with jubilees allowed them to last a century or ten rather than this fizz bang pop nao it's here now it isn't stuff
12:23 pete_dushenski da desert jooz had smaller jubilees every 7 years and larger ones every 49-50
12:24 pete_dushenski agricultural land was returned to its "rightful" owner every 7 years, making it effectively rented out, with only property in walled cities able to be permanently transferred.
12:24 pete_dushenski jooz who fell into debt were freed on the jubilee year, but not gentiles...
12:26 pete_dushenski it was a basic economy to be sure
12:26 pete_dushenski definitely more web of trust based
12:28 pete_dushenski but even that original property, that land o' israel, was distributed by fiat: "kick out everyone else, you deserve this" kind a thing
12:28 pete_dushenski sorta what we're seeing with the current conflict
12:29 pete_dushenski not that i give two fucks about that mess. israel, if anywhere, should be in south america
12:29 chetty blame the brits
12:32 pete_dushenski if we start with the blame game. we'll end up pointing the finger at bacteria.
12:32 pete_dushenski not the least of which is because they outnumber us in our own bodies 10-1
12:33 mike_c what's that math? we have 10 bacteria in us?
12:33 chetty hahaha I been preaching that one (or similar) for a while, no one wants to give up finger pointing
12:33 punkman1 http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/mg22329803.900/mg22329803.900-1_1200.jpg
12:35 pete_dushenski punkman1: so that's what they do instead of getting laid
12:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15999 @ 0.00083888 = 13.4212 BTC [-] {2}
12:39 punkman1 pete_dushenski, yeah someone's gotta build those big ships
12:40 punkman1 http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329803.900-robotic-suit-gives-shipyard-workers-super-strength.html
12:40 assbot Robotic suit gives shipyard workers super strength - health - 04 August 2014 - New Scientist
12:41 punkman1 3-hour battery life, can only lift 30kg, a bit disappointing
12:42 pete_dushenski like gen 1 laptops
12:42 pete_dushenski i'm off to go play some badminton and pedal my bike around town. later!
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13:02 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
13:02 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 590.41, Best ask: 590.55, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 590.55, 24 hour volume: 3551.13147998, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 587.842223463
13:02 mircea_popescu this is liek teh largest battle of our times.
13:03 ThickAsThieves you mean the congested price?
13:03 mircea_popescu yeah.
13:03 ThickAsThieves we're in between two very old trendlines
13:04 ThickAsThieves itll have to resolve this month
13:04 mircea_popescu the gambit being that if they manage to get bitcoin price to behave like gold price, bitcoin will essentially behave like gold
13:04 mircea_popescu and fail in its mission, even though it in principle could have succeeded,. much like gold had succeeded for a long long time.
13:05 ThickAsThieves but gold is already "adopted"
13:05 ThickAsThieves bitcoin would eat at that and grow
13:05 mircea_popescu the beauty of this being that they aren't going to succeed, but letting them try is so god damned productive and enriching.
13:07 ThickAsThieves “They always complain about regulation. That’s their job. Let’s look at the track record. Let’s look at the facts. Since I have come into office, there’s almost no economic metric by which you couldn’t say that the US economy is better and that corporate bottom lines are better. None." ~ o'bama
13:07 ThickAsThieves rich!
13:09 justusranvier "Since I have come into office, there’s almost no economic metric by which you couldn’t say that the US economy is better and that corporate bottom lines are better, because we control the metrics and we make them say whatever we want"
13:10 ThickAsThieves Guys I just got Excel! All my numbers are up!
13:10 justusranvier Too many unemployed people? Stop counting the people who've given up completely.
13:11 mircea_popescu justusranvier they *are* unemployed.
13:11 mircea_popescu this isn't chomage, it's unemployment. puritan concept.
13:11 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lmao amusingly hruschev said the same.
13:11 justusranvier Of course they are in reality, but the "official unemployment rate" doesn't include them.
13:12 justusranvier Because telling the truth is inconvienient.
13:12 mircea_popescu justusranvier sorry i just responded to teh last line. i see my error now :D
13:12 mircea_popescu but anyway, hruscev said the same. soviet russia was in the slump of all time, the dude was derping about how "according to all indicators"
13:13 justusranvier USA in 2010s = USSR in 1980s
13:13 mike_c i have a gut feel about why you are right, but I'd love to hear you expound on it a bit. If nefarious forces are shoveling money at BTC to suppress price, why will this fail? bitcoin is currently small. you think they just won't be able to keep it up and eventually price will explode?
13:13 mircea_popescu mike_c im writing it up.
13:13 mike_c ah, good
13:13 mircea_popescu just_mike nikky h died in 70
13:18 justusranvier mike_c: What if Coinbase doesn't actually have all the Bitcoins their customers believe they have. They take in a great deal of USD, but how do we know they aren't operating on a fractional reserve? Until people stop leaving their coins in third-party custody, those kinds of price manipulation games are inevietable.
13:18 asciilifeform http://berezin-fb.su/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C-%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BE-%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%87%D1%88%D0%B5.jpg
13:19 mike_c justusranvier: i don't believe coinbase has a vested interest in large scale price manipulation. investor-mania would be great for their customer acquisition.
13:20 justusranvier I don't either, actually. But they are very interested in being bought out. Suppose the company gets purchased by a bank. What will the new owners be interested in doing with that huge pile of customer deposits?
13:21 mike_c bitcoin deposits? coinbase doesn't hold fiat. not sure a bank would know what to do with them.
13:22 justusranvier I mean the bitcoin deposits
13:29 mircea_popescu anyone have handy that link to the log chart of us warplane cost ?
13:32 ThickAsThieves this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Augustine's_law.svg
13:32 mircea_popescu yesty!
13:37 ThickAsThieves i saw this picture of a bunch of Canadian red/white maple leaf ATMs form Cavirtex, I wonder if maybe those stockholders from Havelock might get something something outta things in the end...
13:37 ThickAsThieves http://thecoinfront.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cavirtex-bitcoin-atm-The-CoinFront-your-news-source-for-bitcoin-altcoin-digital-and-cryptocurrencies-793x400.jpg
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 936 @ 0.00257994 = 2.4148 BTC [+] {2}
13:48 mircea_popescu ;;bids 1000
13:48 gribble Bitstamp | There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 1000.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0287 seconds
13:48 mircea_popescu ;;buy 1000
13:48 gribble (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, (1 more message)
13:48 mircea_popescu ;;buys 1000
13:48 gribble Error: "buys" is not a valid command.
13:48 mircea_popescu ;;ask 1000
13:48 gribble Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
13:48 mircea_popescu o ffs
13:49 TomServo ;;asks 1000
13:49 gribble Bitstamp | There are currently 16281.08 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 11260010.2607 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.9684 seconds
13:49 TomServo ?
13:49 mircea_popescu i guess the old format went the way of mtgox huh ?
13:50 mike_c ;;market buy 1000
13:50 gribble Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 597548.5269 USD and would take the last price up to 598.8300 USD, resulting in an average price of 597.5485 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 100.1576 seconds
13:50 mircea_popescu o ty.
13:50 mircea_popescu ;;market buy 10000
13:50 gribble Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 6302846.6123 USD and would take the last price up to 665.0500 USD, resulting in an average price of 630.2847 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 118.0073 seconds
13:52 mircea_popescu ;;market buy 500000
13:52 gribble Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18670.792 bitcoins, for a total of 18722522.1011 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0322 seconds
13:53 mike_c ;;market baratio
13:53 gribble Bitstamp | Total bids: 8580122 USD. Total asks: 18670 BTC. Ratio: 459.54787 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 75.6874 seconds
13:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00083897 = 15.9404 BTC [-] {2}
14:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26238 @ 0.00083565 = 21.9258 BTC [-] {4}
14:10 mircea_popescu mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/
14:10 assbot Let’s pretend… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 630 @ 0.0024442 = 1.5398 BTC [-] {11}
14:26 mike_c ah, that makes sense. thanks. the key difference being that they can fuck with the gold price on a larger scale by "printing" gold. and this is what justusranvier was saying about coinbase, that maybe they are printing bitcoin.
14:27 mircea_popescu he pretty much got it, yes. he's a smart cookie.
14:27 mircea_popescu but anyway, they can't really print b itcoin unless someone lets them.
14:28 mircea_popescu which is really a very precarious base.
14:28 mike_c yeah. like right now germany is mad about the US printing gold, but can't do much about it.
14:28 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/lets-pretend/
14:28 mircea_popescu well inasmuch as they fell for a scam, neiher could the coinbase customers
14:28 mircea_popescu however, it WOULD be marked as a scam.
14:28 mircea_popescu random person with a coinbase wallet doesn't have all the other wires tied on germany has.
14:29 mike_c but germany (or other powerful entity) wouldn't get their bitcoin from coinbase, so this scam doesn't work for BTC.
14:29 mircea_popescu and by powerfull we mean in this context.. pretend powerful.
14:29 mircea_popescu "take a walk around me. go ahead. found anything ?"
14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00083833 = 10.6468 BTC [+]
14:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1175 @ 0.00242609 = 2.8507 BTC [-] {13}
14:35 * asciilifeform curses 'ebay' with strongest voodoo.
14:35 ben_vulpes ;;later tell pete_dushenski <pete_dushenski> but we're losing our voices over here << leave it to the professionals :D :D :D :D
14:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:35 * asciilifeform buys a nice little cnc vertical milling machine - next day, ebay account of vendor (in as far as can be told, reputable, old;) is cancelled. no recourse.
14:36 mircea_popescu no refund ?
14:36 mike_c call bitcoin and initiate a chargeback.
14:36 asciilifeform possibly refund one day, if paypal feels like it
14:36 mircea_popescu heh.
14:37 asciilifeform 500 usd sacrificed to the spamg0dz
14:37 mike_c who would have thought spammers were selling milling machines?
14:37 asciilifeform mike_c: nope. the spammers sell payment mechanisms and run auction sites...
14:37 mike_c heh. true.
14:38 asciilifeform the junkyard man will never see the 500 either.
14:38 mircea_popescu odd tho.
14:38 ThickAsThieves ;;market buy 30000
14:38 gribble Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 18913.613 bitcoins, for a total of 18863721.0835 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 0.0235 seconds
14:39 asciilifeform small change for the fraud machine, though. why didn't they cancel the account of some fellow selling a truck, or a jet engine
14:39 BigBitz small market is small ThickAsThieves.
14:40 mike_c ;;market obip 10000
14:40 gribble Bitstamp | The weighted average price of BTC, 10000.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 581.65632 USD. | Data vintage: 84.6930 seconds
14:40 ben_vulpes <ThickAsThieves> i saw this picture of a bunch of Canadian red/white maple leaf ATMs form Cavirtex, I wonder if maybe those stockholders from Havelock might get something something outta things in the end... << a) cavirtex is desperate for profit b) doubtful havelock holders are going to get anything as they've been delisted, right?
14:42 ThickAsThieves well you could claim your HL shares IRL
14:42 ThickAsThieves they didnt just delete them
14:43 ben_vulpes somehow i suspect david joseph thinks that money is his and he'll be extremely reluctant to let any of it slip his grasp.
14:43 ben_vulpes this is the man who's trying to leverage himself into the role of canadian bitcoin regulator, after all.
14:46 justusranvier What's Joseph David up to this time? He's the primary reason I originally started a blog. http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2013/06/27/i-love-the-smell-of-crony-capitalism-in-the-morning/
14:46 assbot I Love the Smell of Crony Capitalism in the Morning
14:46 ben_vulpes that's what all the ETFs are about as well, aren't they.
14:47 ben_vulpes i had no idea.
14:49 asciilifeform in other news - got the 500 back. but, wanted the widget, not the 500...
14:55 mike_c that was quick. they must read the logs.
14:56 asciilifeform lol
14:57 BigBitz !up joesmoe
15:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.0008347 = 6.0098 BTC [-]
15:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00084067 = 5.1701 BTC [+] {2}
15:02 joesmoe hello world
15:06 mike_c hello joe.
15:07 fluffypony joesmoe!
15:09 joesmoe heya
15:09 joesmoe how's it going fluffypony
15:09 fluffypony joesmoe: not too bad, your side?
15:10 joesmoe pretty good, launching some more ATMs in the very near future.
15:11 kakobrekla got any atm usage stats
15:12 fluffypony neato
15:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 60 @ 0.0114 = 0.684 BTC [+] {6}
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 231 @ 0.00240071 = 0.5546 BTC [-] {6}
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01499999 = 0.75 BTC [+] {2}
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2749999 = 0.55 BTC [+]
15:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 548 @ 0.00235176 = 1.2888 BTC [-] {6}
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 804 @ 0.00234948 = 1.889 BTC [-] {5}
15:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 907 @ 0.00231999 = 2.1042 BTC [-] {4}
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16:02 ThickAsThieves http://genomebiology.com/2014/15/7/424
16:02 assbot Genome Biology | Full text | The Kardashian index: a measure of discrepant social media profile for scientists
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 455 @ 0.00195 = 0.8873 BTC [+] {2}
16:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.0008365 = 20.2433 BTC [-] {2}
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 380 @ 0.00185064 = 0.7032 BTC [-] {5}
16:28 punkman http://business.financialpost.com/2014/07/21/sino-forest-cfo-fined-700000-and-banned-from-boards-in-settlement-with-ontario-securities-commission/
16:28 assbot Sino-Forest CFO fined $700,000 and banned from boards in settlement with Ontario Securities Commission | Financial Post
16:29 punkman cheap
16:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 531 @ 0.00172622 = 0.9166 BTC [-] {4}
16:31 ben_vulpes http://www.muddywatersresearch.com/track-record/ << bitcoin scams don't even register. NASDAQ $23 -> $1.7
16:31 assbot Track Record | Muddy Waters Research
16:33 punkman "An 8-month, $50 million investigation into MW’s allegations by TRE’s board of directors was inconclusive, largely because senior management lied to investigators, who were not able to verify a majority of the company’s timber assets."
16:33 punkman lol
16:34 ThickAsThieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8
16:34 assbot The Visual Microphone: Passive Recovery of Sound from Video - YouTube
16:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8982 @ 0.00083695 = 7.5175 BTC [+]
16:44 los_pantalones http://phys.org/news/2014-08-algorithm-recovers-speech-vibrations-potato-chip.html
16:44 assbot Algorithm recovers speech from vibrations of potato-chip bag filmed through soundproof glass
16:48 ben_vulpes spycraft's included putting a laser beam against a window and backing sound waves out of that for a while now.
16:51 los_pantalones yes, ty for reading before commenting
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00193997 = 0.97 BTC [-] {3}
17:07 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/trezor/
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1333 @ 0.00183657 = 2.4481 BTC [-] {3}
17:14 ben_vulpes http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/08/laughter-can-heal.html "borderline pedophilic academics...sleeping with their students" << oh i see sub .8*$YOUR_AGE is now pedophilic. mhm.
17:14 assbot ClubOrlov: Laughter can heal
17:15 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: note that it was a guest article
17:15 asciilifeform good example of the sort of people orlov associates with...
17:15 ben_vulpes i did note.
17:16 ben_vulpes "Where in the world (outside of Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan) do fifty-year old men routinely get to mate with twenty-year-old women? " oh gosh
17:16 asciilifeform arguably that piece is the female mirror image of the 'incel' material.
17:16 asciilifeform 'oh noez, the rich grey men want to fuck beautiful women, Something Must Be Done'
17:17 ben_vulpes "Other older men simply admit they can’t get it off with their own saggy, wrinkly peers. (This, by the way, is simply nature's way of telling them that it's time to stop breeding)."
17:17 ben_vulpes sounds apt to me, asciilifeform
17:18 ben_vulpes this whole article is an exercise in convincing the writer that her lifestyle is right and good and that the rest of the world is Doing It Incorrectly.
17:19 ben_vulpes honey if the rest of the world disagrees, who the fuck are you again?
17:19 ben_vulpes *sigh* okay apache ain't gon configure itself
17:19 mike_c nginx does. and makes dinner.
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00189999 = 1.9 BTC [+] {2}
17:22 ThickAsThieves my name in Dota 2 is Bitcoin-Assets and I killed an opponent named Doge
17:22 ben_vulpes lol mike zing and logoff
17:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1185 @ 0.001802 = 2.1354 BTC [-] {11}
17:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00083608 = 6.0198 BTC [-]
17:23 ben_vulpes ThickAsThieves: baller
17:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 441 @ 0.00174906 = 0.7713 BTC [-] {5}
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.27589983 = 2.759 BTC [+] {3}
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18807 @ 0.000835 = 15.7038 BTC [-] {2}
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.0019 = 1.9 BTC [+]
17:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00198 = 0.99 BTC [-]
17:46 ben_vulpes dolar blue actually fell last week?
17:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00083409 = 1.0426 BTC [-]
17:57 ben_vulpes http://zenarchery.com/2014/08/everyone-i-know-is-brokenhearted/ << americans are starting to wake up, i think.
17:57 assbot Everyone I know is brokenhearted. | Zenarchery
18:00 ben_vulpes "Gen X talked a lot about the revolution, and then went and got themselves some venture capital and started laying into place the oversaturated, paranoid world we live in now. A lot of them tried to tell themselves they were still punk as fuck, but it’s hard to morally reconcile the thing where you listen to Fugazi on the way to your job where you help find new ways to trick people into giving up their data to advertisers. Most people
18:00 ben_vulpes don’t even bother. They just compartmentalize."
18:01 ben_vulpes "But the world changed again. And kept changing. So now you’ve got this degree that’s worth fuck-all, a house that’s worth more as scrap lumber than as a substantial investment, and you’re either going to lose your job or have to do the work of two people, because there’s a recession on. Except they keep saying the recession ended, so why are you still working twice as hard for the same amount of money?"
18:03 thestringpuller ;;google cartman buys amusement park
18:03 gribble Cartmanland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartmanland>; Cartmanland - Full Episode - Season 05 - Ep 06 | South Park Studios: <http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s05e06-cartmanland>; "South Park" Cartmanland (TV Episode 2001) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0705906/>
18:04 thestringpuller ben_vulpes: ^^^
18:05 ben_vulpes "In an ideal world, Kim Kardashian would have spent her life getting sport-fucked anonymously by hip-hop stars in some Bel Air mansion, ran a salon, and either died of a coke overdose or Botox poisoning."
18:05 Duffer1 ouch
18:06 asciilifeform 'You actually know who Kim Kardashian is.'
18:06 * asciilifeform doesn't
18:07 asciilifeform (presumably pr0n star)
18:07 ben_vulpes ;;ud waterhead
18:07 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=waterhead | The waterhead usually thinks he is the best worker and that he has a really nice smile. He drools a lot. He will try to get his nonretarded coworkers fired.
18:07 ben_vulpes close. whore for the great satan at the v. least.
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3029 @ 0.00185999 = 5.6339 BTC [+]
18:10 thestringpuller ;;ud chickenhead
18:10 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chickenhead | chicken head. Background: used primarly in male circles, with strong ties to hip- hop culture. often used in rap music to describe groupies. Definition: NOUN
18:11 thestringpuller For some reason I think those two slang terms are related on some level.
18:11 ben_vulpes kinda proximate
18:11 ben_vulpes how've you been, thestringpuller ?
18:11 ben_vulpes and srs - why the move?
18:16 thestringpuller oh it won't be utnil next year
18:16 thestringpuller because the killing has won me over
18:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.27780281 = 0.8334 BTC [+]
18:17 thestringpuller seattle is dope man. I love climates that are rainy all the fucking time
18:17 thestringpuller that shit is fucking dope to me. i just love the rain man, i dunno
18:17 thestringpuller and also I am an asthmatic with bad allergies. i have a feeling when I step off the plane I'll breathe like I've never breathed before!
18:18 thestringpuller XD
18:18 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: re: 'broken hearted' article: what a psychiatric marvel. note where he bashes his gov. for not confiscating privately owned small arms quickly enough for his liking - and then goes on with some crap about 'rage is necessary component... stop being well-behaved'
18:20 ben_vulpes much self-contradiction. it's the lot of the nearly-enlightened under the USG.
18:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 407 @ 0.00198414 = 0.8075 BTC [+] {4}
18:21 asciilifeform 'William Gibson future where you can live like a stainless steel rat...' << this fellow ever read books ?
18:21 asciilifeform ;;google the stainless steel rat
18:21 gribble The Stainless Steel Rat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat>; The Stainless Steel Rat - Amazon.com: <http://www.amazon.com/The-Stainless-Steel-Rat-Series/dp/1441881093>; The Stainless Steel Rat - Goodreads: <http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/64394.The_Stainless_Steel_Rat>
18:21 ben_vulpes probably not as many as you
18:22 asciilifeform but that was thrown in there for the same reason as kardashian. almost like he's got a checklist of traditional american cultural markers.
18:24 ben_vulpes he's an american - what do you want?
18:24 asciilifeform recall how mircea_popescu once posted some examples of spam where the spam-meister forgot to actually fill in the spam-generator 'mad libs' and posted raw form ?
18:24 asciilifeform {this|or|that} syntax
18:24 ben_vulpes yes...
18:24 asciilifeform the 'broken heart' thing reads quite like that.
18:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23350 @ 0.00083976 = 19.6084 BTC [+]
18:26 ben_vulpes smorgasbord of cultural touchpoints is the best some people can do!
18:26 thestringpuller ;;define
18:26 gribble Error: "define" is not a valid command.
18:26 thestringpuller ;;google smorgasbord
18:26 gribble Smörgåsbord - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sm%C3%B6rg%C3%A5sbord>; Smorgasbord - Merriam-Webster Online: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/smorgasbord>; Smorgasburg | A Brooklyn Flea Food Market: <http://www.smorgasburg.com/>
18:26 thestringpuller damn I wish we had ;;define
18:26 ben_vulpes ;;ud smorgasbord
18:26 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smorgasbord | A smorgasbord is typically a lunch buffet-style meal containing hors d'oeuvrs, hot and cold meats, smoked and pickled fish, cheese, salads, and relishes.
18:27 thestringpuller LOLOLOL
18:27 thestringpuller niggas...
18:28 ben_vulpes s/p down 3% over the month, MPOE flat.
18:29 mod6 And the music sucks. Dear God, the music sucks. << lol, this
18:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1001 @ 0.00242338 = 2.4258 BTC [+] {3}
18:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10777 @ 0.00083625 = 9.0123 BTC [-]
18:40 mircea_popescu kakobrekla> got any atm usage stats << that joesmoe
18:41 thestringpuller mod6 %6
18:42 thestringpuller mod6 = %6
18:42 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> http://www.muddywatersresearch.com/track-record/ << bitcoin scams don't even register. NASDAQ $23 -> $1.7 << fiat is not as well managed as bitcoin is.
18:42 assbot Track Record | Muddy Waters Research
18:42 mircea_popescu after all, the sec does fiat.
18:42 dignork people still amaze me: SAML integration, guy sends me his-certicicate.pem #facedeskpalm
18:42 thestringpuller HAHAHA
18:42 thestringpuller dignork: the firm I work for is doing SAML integration too
18:43 thestringpuller Similar stories. Glad it's not an isolated thing XD
18:43 dignork thestringpuller: how many pems did ya got? :)
18:43 thestringpuller about 3-4
18:43 thestringpuller I'm not on that project tho
18:43 thestringpuller but we hear about it a lot during the status updates
18:44 ben_vulpes ;;isitdown blockchain.info
18:44 gribble blockchain.info is up
18:44 thestringpuller i don't think anything is in production yet though
18:45 dignork i'm doing it for a friend, but all this spec looks overcomplicated as shit, and thus probably buggy exploitable
18:47 mircea_popescu <assbot> Algorithm recovers speech from vibrations of potato-chip bag filmed through soundproof glass << impressive hh
18:48 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> "Where in the world (outside of Taliban-controlled parts of Afghanistan) do fifty-year old men routinely get to mate with twenty-year-old women? " oh gosh <<< everywhere ?
18:48 mircea_popescu wtf is wrong with this nutso reddit ageism thing ?
18:49 mircea_popescu where the fuck do twentysomething males get to mate with twentysomething females is more the question, outside of like... us collegiate lalaland.
18:50 ben_vulpes but that's what the world is supposed to look like. as in middle school, so in high school, college and so on and so forth.
18:50 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> honey if the rest of the world disagrees, who the fuck are you again? << she's SWAIA! Someone with an internet acct!
18:51 mircea_popescu and she dun hate the game, she hate da playa!
18:51 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves> my name in Dota 2 is Bitcoin-Assets and I killed an opponent named Doge << lol let the permanent record reflect this. in duplicate.
18:52 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> dolar blue actually fell last week? << yes, from 12.5ish to 12.8ish
18:52 ben_vulpes HAW
18:53 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> "In an ideal world, Kim Kardashian would have spent her life getting sport-fucked anonymously by hip-hop stars in some Bel Air mansion, ran a salon, and either died of a coke overdose or Botox poisoning." << this "ideal" world is actually the world. i dunno what this new shit the kids got going post 2000 is supposed to be, but it ain';t a world in *any* sense
18:54 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> 'You actually know who Kim Kardashian is.' << nice ass turkic-type girl.
18:55 Vexual Asicminer co. sales dept turned attempted equipment assembler, Rcokminer, dumps stock ahead of of new block eruptor somsumer model.
18:56 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> smorgasbord of cultural touchpoints is the best some people can do! < < actually i think it's how you get the top marks in women's colleges.
19:00 BingoBoingo http://www.vox.com/2014/8/4/5967205/an-israeli-web-poll-asks-what-obama-should-get-for-his-birthday-48
19:00 assbot An Israeli web poll asks what Obama should get for his birthday. 48 percent say "ebola." - Vox
19:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3300 @ 0.00207183 = 6.837 BTC [-] {3}
19:00 mircea_popescu i'd rather he survives into an old old age so we can showtrial him and send him to prison pinochet style.
19:01 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, with this latest outbreak roughly half are surviving. Ebola is no longer incompatible with a long life.
19:01 mircea_popescu there's something right about making very old representatives of failure cry on camera.
19:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1673 @ 0.00083976 = 1.4049 BTC [+]
19:07 mircea_popescu In the year 2054, the entire defense budget will purchase just one tactical aircraft. This aircraft will have to be shared by the Air Force and Navy 3½ days each per week except for leap year, when it will be made available to the Marines for the extra day."
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00083987 = 5.2912 BTC [+] {2}
19:20 chetty http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/
19:20 assbot Is thinking now obsolete?
19:23 ben_vulpes http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/google-reveals-child-porn-user/?cat_orig=us
19:23 assbot Google reveals ‘child-porn user’
19:24 ben_vulpes "Police say Google detected explicit images of a young girl in an email that John Henry Skillern was sending to a friend, the company then alerted authorities."
19:30 mircea_popescu o hey.
19:30 mircea_popescu parallel construction
19:30 ben_vulpes should probably start spamming every public person's gmail with images off the cp list.
19:30 mircea_popescu s getting more and more parallel by now huih
19:30 mircea_popescu either that or stop believing what liars say.
19:31 ben_vulpes and why stop there for that matter? do it to everyone, and blow the whole system apart. similar to the autogriefing of twitter and facebook.
19:32 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: do it to everyone, and blow the whole system << thousand prisoners, one machine-gunner. who wants to go first.
19:33 mircea_popescu i dont get that.
19:33 mircea_popescu he didn't mean for him to do it himself, he meant for me to do it. da fuck are they going to do, be very butthurt ?
19:33 mircea_popescu never let business insider publish an article extolling mpex ever again ?
19:34 asciilifeform if answer is 'we'll all go first', we have a winner. e.g., treblinka uprising.
19:34 mircea_popescu how about the way this historically worked ?
19:34 mircea_popescu ie, one day teh nazis just scurry like rats, by noon stukas all over the sky ?
19:35 mircea_popescu no wait stuka's the wrong one
19:35 asciilifeform lol
19:35 mircea_popescu what did the russians fly, Amplified Bathtub - 1 ?
19:35 mircea_popescu no that was the tank. hm.
19:36 mircea_popescu petliakov ?
19:39 asciilifeform aye
19:39 asciilifeform 'flying tank'
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 220 @ 0.00238979 = 0.5258 BTC [-]
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19:56 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/minigame-smg-july-2014-statement/
20:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46716 @ 0.00083426 = 38.9733 BTC [-] {4}
20:08 BingoBoingo IRS Speak >> "…public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3)."
20:08 BingoBoingo …public works must serve a community. Open source licensing ensures the Tools are accessible to the world. We have not found any authority for the proposition that the world is a community within the meaning of § 501(c)(3).
20:09 BingoBoingo http://blogs.gnome.org/jnelson/2014/06/30/the-new-501c3-and-the-future-of-free-software-in-the-united-states/\
20:09 assbot Page not found | Jim Nelson / Yorba blog archives
20:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18534 @ 0.00083329 = 15.4442 BTC [-] {2}
20:10 mircea_popescu lmaol
20:12 mircea_popescu mike_c http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-july-2014-statement/
20:12 assbot WarOfLife (S.WOL), July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:13 mircea_popescu s.wol is carrying a lot of capital, but i think rather than pay dividends it's probably wider to just hold on to it for a little.
20:14 mircea_popescu f.mpif if making very little on its outlay, but i think it'll stick supporting wol for a while longer.
20:15 thestringpuller cartoon makers are geniuses
20:17 thestringpuller ;;google el gringo pussy gato
20:17 gribble West of the Pesos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_of_the_Pesos>; Speedy Gonzales - quando la topa chiama - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIeT7naQO84>; Venezuelan Archives Gil's Thrilling (And Filling) Blog: <http://www.nmgastronome.com/?cat=564>
20:21 mike_c well, i guess making dust for mpif was better than losing dust for mpif.
20:22 mod6 thestringpuller: what up
20:22 ben_vulpes so return on capital is like zero in btc?
20:24 mircea_popescu mike_c word.
20:24 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes like .1% a month.
20:24 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.0001 ^ 12
20:24 gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
20:24 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1.0001 ** 12
20:24 gribble 1.00120066022
20:26 kakobrekla so little, even compounding fails.
20:26 mircea_popescu word.
20:27 mircea_popescu first month tho, how many businesses show a clear hundred in their first month.
20:27 ben_vulpes this leads to an interesting problem for the btc-denominated tech company manager: how do i spend as little as possible on ongoing development while still keeping things up and moving forwards?
20:28 kakobrekla ah, i was thinking whole mpif including my small part.
20:28 mircea_popescu and for the conlang experts : wtf's this say ? http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02mbnkHcY1r9mubdo1_500.jpg
20:28 kakobrekla ben_vulpes bread and water.
20:29 mircea_popescu kakobrekla nah that's coming in a few.
20:29 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yes.
20:29 mircea_popescu the future is once again to the frugal.
20:30 mike_c ben_vulpes: the tech company manager writes more code themself.
20:30 kakobrekla and everything takes what it takes ^4
20:31 kakobrekla timewise.
20:31 ben_vulpes okay so i guess move to somalia then
20:31 mike_c hm, it takes longer, but not that much longer. because you are faster than whoever you'd hire to do it.
20:31 kakobrekla shutup.
20:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 199 @ 0.00309995 = 0.6169 BTC [+]
20:33 kakobrekla erm.... i wasnt literal.
20:33 ben_vulpes trollface.png
20:35 BingoBoingo !s Idiocracy
20:35 assbot 23 results for 'Idiocracy' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Idiocracy
20:35 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-july-2014-statement/
20:35 mike_c you can't tell me to shaddup. i do what i want!
20:44 dignork mircea_popescu: as an expert in nothing, the writing is "only xyz's cock" , xyz is probably a happy owner
20:47 mircea_popescu dignork wait wut ?
20:47 dignork http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02mbnkHcY1r9mubdo1_500.jpg
20:47 mircea_popescu <kakobrekla> erm.... i wasnt literal. <<< lmao
20:49 dignork +mircea_popescu | and for the conlang experts : wtf's this say ? // only daddy's cock
20:49 mircea_popescu oh oh ty.
20:50 BingoBoingo dignork> http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m02mbnkHcY1r9mubdo1_500.jpg << She prolly ought to see a doctor about that cyst in her natal cleft
20:50 mircea_popescu til BingoBoingo hates clits.
20:51 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: No, I'm takling the inflamed swollen red thing above the second D in Daddy.
20:51 dignork BingoBoingo: destroyer of magic/killer of ponies
20:51 mircea_popescu that's not a cyst, that's normal.
20:52 thestringpuller LOL
20:52 thestringpuller only if I wasn't in a bar
20:52 thestringpuller i could open that link
20:53 mircea_popescu you can open it in a bar too
20:53 mircea_popescu make sure coupla sluts can see it
20:54 mircea_popescu it's called proof of slut.
20:54 mircea_popescu no wait. of stroke.
20:54 mircea_popescu no no, SOCIAL proof.
20:54 thestringpuller I'm no pick up artist
20:54 thestringpuller I'm just trynna get work done man.
20:54 thestringpuller IRC help the brain juices move more quickly.
20:55 thestringpuller and this is a bar of middle aged people
20:55 thestringpuller middle aged sluts scare me
20:55 thestringpuller not ageist or anything, just seems to be the general pattern
20:56 mircea_popescu middle aged sluts are teh best sluts what.
20:56 thestringpuller yes as they tell you about how they have to pick up their kids from school soon as you fuck them during guiding light
20:57 thestringpuller i don't think that kind of slut will ever appeal to me
20:57 dignork thestringpuller: acquired taste i suppose
21:00 mircea_popescu "how you doing ? " "busy" "so come over" "oh baby i can't, gotta drop off the kid to ballet class" "so drop her off to her ballet class and come over for a ballet class of your own" "mmmmmmm okay"
21:00 dignork mircea_popescu: that pic should be used as CAPTCHA somewhere
21:00 mircea_popescu dignork you now know reason #48768459 my write-on-tits thing is valuable. don't tell asciilifeform :)))
21:06 Vexual Oh, Daddy, I thought it was an irish thing
21:11 mircea_popescu mpif report is out. apparently this month we lost almost a whole bitcoin SOMEHOW
21:11 mircea_popescu teh managers plus all teh specialists pls to look into it make sure there's no mistakes ty.
21:12 mircea_popescu "a while back i finally figured out what makes a good relationship." << from, of course, reddit.
21:18 thestringpuller oh wow
21:19 thestringpuller penguirker: is slow
21:28 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/mpif-fmpif-july-2014-statement/
21:29 BingoBoingo !mpif
21:29 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.87 B). Delta: -0.41 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
21:38 Vexual It might say Paddy, they look like rosary beads
21:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00083312 = 12.9967 BTC [-]
21:49 mike_c hmm. http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-july-2014-statement/ bitbet paid mpif .8 satoshis in interest.
21:49 assbot BitBet (S.BBET) July 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
21:50 mike_c srsly i would kick in for an offical b-a accountant.
21:58 mike_c bitbet profit includes partial satoshis too :)
22:09 mike_c !mpif
22:09 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021699 B (Total: 474.52 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]
22:10 mike_c another month, a clean slate. good luck managers!
22:10 Vexual and remember luckies, good management
22:24 Vexual what are gracious donations to shareholders? re bitbet
22:25 BingoBoingo Vexual: People who send bets on things that have already been closed.
22:25 Vexual ie drunks
22:26 BingoBoingo Nah, leeches
22:26 Vexual some kinda fuckup
22:26 BingoBoingo Because often this means the condition to satisfy the bet has already happened
22:27 Vexual bitbet seems to run quite efficiently
22:28 BingoBoingo Indeed
22:29 Vexual %nethash
22:29 mircea_popescu and he left ?
22:29 Vexual whats 1th do to atc?
22:29 Vexual mikec?
22:29 Vexual presumably hes off being efficient
22:30 mircea_popescu <mike_c> srsly i would kick in for an offical b-a accountant. <<< me too. sadly...
22:30 mircea_popescu ;;seen smickles
22:30 gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 12 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <smickles> easily a few more bil in things like BPOs and BPCs
22:30 mircea_popescu ;;seen pierre_rochard
22:30 gribble pierre_rochard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 30 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Pierre_Rochard> mircea_popescu: ah, well I’ll myself out then
22:30 mircea_popescu we're not doing too good for accountants somehow.
22:30 mircea_popescu anyone got one ?
22:30 Vexual not a cheap one
22:31 kakobrekla pierre was an accountant?
22:31 mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7wiwgOlVT1qlne6uo1_500.jpg <<< imo this is a great idea.
22:31 mircea_popescu kakobrekla afaik.
22:31 kakobrekla !s well I’ll myself out then
22:31 assbot 2 results for 'well Ill myself out then' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=well+I%E2%80%99ll+myself+out+then
22:32 kakobrekla weird.
22:32 mircea_popescu ditto.
22:33 Vexual pankakke might be a good acct
22:34 mircea_popescu i thought he was a coder.
22:34 Vexual he doesnt miss a trick
22:35 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/04/malpidity/
22:37 Vexual it might be beneath him, but with his charting it might be mutually beneficial
22:49 Vexual im not trying to belittle accountants, but in my experience, there are two kinds, and you prolly need a third
22:57 nam-shub I know a guy that sends numbers to accountants all day -- he desperately wants more bitcoin
23:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3506 @ 0.00083323 = 2.9213 BTC [+]
23:10 mircea_popescu nam-shub hm ?
23:14 nam-shub I know a guy who can assemble random financial transactions for consumption by the accounting community. more or less in an automated fashion. (There was a discussion prior about a b-a accountant.)
23:15 nam-shub this guy I know takes bitcoin
23:16 Vexual does he give advice or do what he's told?
23:17 nam-shub often gives advice and is told what to do instead
23:17 Vexual lol
23:17 nam-shub but generally just does what he's told
23:18 peterl mircea_popescu: your MPOE report mentioned a new advertising listing, has this been discussed here?
23:19 peterl is it going to be called S.AD?
23:23 ben_vulpes :(
23:23 BingoBoingo !up The20YearIRCloud
23:24 mircea_popescu peterl nah, s.van. it's been discussed, some pople are alphaing it.
23:24 The20YearIRCloud joy
23:24 The20YearIRCloud what shall i talk about
23:24 ben_vulpes The20YearIRCloud: how'd the con call go?
23:24 asciilifeform s.van? why not s.wagen
23:24 peterl ok, I'll keep digging through the logs some more
23:25 The20YearIRCloud Pretty good, no complaints, everyone was excited about the news, not happy about the complaint or two I got on the forum afterwards, but then I can't please everyone it seems
23:25 mircea_popescu so when i release this latest letter from stan, i think some people's brains will pop.
23:26 The20YearIRCloud stan?
23:26 Vexual alovakistan!
23:26 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> s.van? why not s.wagen << nice.
23:26 asciilifeform my brain popped, only fair that other folks' should also.
23:27 Vexual a furious fit in the shit pit from a mick dick, trying to make her slit chink
23:27 The20YearIRCloud Hoping the bank gets approval soon for us, that way we can go onto this student housing project soon
23:27 Vexual ^thats for you fluffypony
23:27 ben_vulpes ;;yivkrtticker
23:27 gribble Error: "yivkrtticker" is not a valid command.
23:28 ben_vulpes ;;ticker
23:28 mircea_popescu The20YearIRCloud what were teh complaints ?
23:28 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.98, Best ask: 583.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 583.98, 24 hour volume: 5577.83784841, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 0
23:28 ben_vulpes !t h rent
23:28 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00350105 / 0.00395441 / 0.00419693 (257 shares, 1.01628376 BTC), 7D: 0.00305500 / 0.00384313 / 0.00420000 (4507 shares, 17.32100546 BTC), 30D: 0.00305500 / 0.00413516 / 0.00540000 (12285 shares, 50.80045884 BTC)
23:29 The20YearIRCloud mircea_popescu: that I haven't been responding recently to all the accusations against myself and or the choices I've made
23:29 The20YearIRCloud At least , I think that's what they were about, one notable one was my choice of director for the HK corporation we have, and the other was complaints about a website I started 5 years ago
23:29 ben_vulpes quite the investors you've got.
23:30 mircea_popescu o, you had a hk corp ?
23:30 The20YearIRCloud Those were accusations made by a 3rd party against us
23:30 The20YearIRCloud Yes, in order to try and be SEC complaint, all the shares go through a HK holding corporation
23:30 The20YearIRCloud exchange>HK corp>US LLC
23:32 peterl I don't think the RENT forum complaints come from investors
23:32 The20YearIRCloud None do, however in this case I had a investor complain because I wasn't addressing the concerns from those individuals
23:33 Vexual if i was an invextor id ask when the growth might arrive
23:33 The20YearIRCloud Even though I explained to them it creates liability on my end because unless what I say goes through atty review, it opens the company up to liability.
23:33 The20YearIRCloud And that's what investors should be concerned about : Timeframes, equity statements, income projections
23:34 Vexual well, whers the new funding then?
23:34 The20YearIRCloud Hopefully next week
23:34 Vexual who?
23:35 The20YearIRCloud We have preliminary approval finally from a lender who offered us pretty attractive terms, and the setup is essentially open-ended
23:35 Vexual is it reasonable to realease info here?
23:36 The20YearIRCloud Yeah , it's a 100k line of credit @ 5% or so and interest only payments, we use LOC to go out and buy new properties, rehab them then refinance the property to cashout the LOC
23:37 The20YearIRCloud The refinance is prime + 2% as a commercial mortgage to our LLC, which is a pretty decent rate. The big benefit compared to just going out and refinancing all the properties at once is that the investors essentially won't see any decreases in the small dividends that they're getting now, only growth.
23:37 Vexual i know all that
23:38 The20YearIRCloud ok
23:38 Vexual why are your good ol boys so slow at fising a house?
23:38 Vexual *fixing
23:38 The20YearIRCloud Because we pay them 1/2 the rate that the fast contractors charge :D
23:39 Vexual are they better?
23:39 The20YearIRCloud On top of that, i've had to make the choice between quick repairs and losing them to other firms, and giving them all the work they can handle at a slower pace. They prefer working for me over other crews, but in order to speed up the rehab time, I have to hire more people. The more people I hire without a big budget, the higher the chance of regular layoffs
23:39 The20YearIRCloud which make workers find work elsewhere
23:40 Vexual but you have a crew you employ on a permenant basis?
23:40 The20YearIRCloud Yes, they're fantastic. Right now we employ 2 guys full time who are doing virtually everything associated with repair/renovation
23:40 asciilifeform enlighten me re: 'rent' setup. if i recall, the properties all cost five-figure usd sums... why would anyone rent these ? (that is, who is so poor to rent vs. buy a mud shack like this, but could still make timely rent?)
23:40 The20YearIRCloud Yes, and that's why rehab is so slow, becuase they both have families, and my preference is not to give them a income rollercoaster
23:40 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
23:40 peterl me! I rent
23:40 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.55, Best ask: 583.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 583.55, 24 hour volume: 5552.38589767, 24 hour low: 581.8, 24 hour high: 595.7, 24 hour vwap: 0
23:40 asciilifeform peterl: i also rent. but not mud shack.
23:41 The20YearIRCloud asciilifeform: in our area, the median home value is around $100k, most of the properties we have are worth around $75k or so after rehab, so they're not really bad houses. Most of our renters have small-ish incomes and they don't want to mess with repairs
23:41 Vexual well they might want a kick in the rectum wehn you ge some more cahs
23:41 asciilifeform aha
23:41 The20YearIRCloud Most people I've talked to don't have the cash outlay to fix say a $4k roof when the time comes, and they make the choice of renting so someone else has to deal with it.
23:42 The20YearIRCloud Outside of the multi-family properties we have that we haven't been able to renovate, all our properties are very nice
23:42 peterl currently US banks require a large down payment to get a mortgage, USians have no savings, therefore they can't buy a house
23:42 asciilifeform peterl: and, i imagine plenty of the ones who can - would rather be shot
23:42 The20YearIRCloud Correct, and many don't have good credit either, most americans can't manage their money
23:43 The20YearIRCloud The last house we bought was $23k, and it is in fantastic shape - New electric, new plumbing, ~1200sf and the woodwork throughout is from 1890
23:43 cazalla 75k for a house, that's just the deposit in this suburb :\
23:43 asciilifeform 75k buys, perhaps, a garage here.
23:43 The20YearIRCloud Not all areas like that - In our area, $175k-$200k will get you 3000-4000 finished square feet
23:44 The20YearIRCloud One house I worked with sold at $155k and was over 6,000 finished square feet, came with a full granite wet bar in the basement with a walking sauna
23:45 Vexual re bullshit
23:45 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/04/malpidity/ lmao
23:45 assbot Malpidity | Bingo Blog
23:45 Vexual you couldn't flip a house if it was already upside down
23:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Thank you
23:46 The20YearIRCloud what do you mean Vexual ?
23:46 Vexual prove me wrong
23:46 The20YearIRCloud I don't understand the question
23:47 Vexual got a sheet of foolscap?
23:48 The20YearIRCloud Not on me
23:49 The20YearIRCloud You're talking about the paper size, correct?
23:49 Vexual any paper will do
23:50 Vexual i thought you were an olschool accountant
23:50 The20YearIRCloud Nope, i'm not oldschool anything I can think of, unless you're into ww2 stuff :D
23:50 Vexual protip: you'll need a pencil
23:50 The20YearIRCloud Yeah, i've got notebook paper here
23:51 Vexual ok draw house
23:51 The20YearIRCloud mircea_popescu: that article is scary
23:51 The20YearIRCloud ok
23:51 Vexual what next
23:52 The20YearIRCloud I've drawn a house
23:52 Vexual this is the part where you do something
23:52 mircea_popescu which one ?
23:53 The20YearIRCloud BingoBoingo's article about malpidity
23:53 The20YearIRCloud I still can't grasp what you're doing unfortunately Vexual
23:53 BingoBoingo The20YearIRCloud: Vexual is a Markov Chain
23:54 The20YearIRCloud are you kidding me?
23:54 BingoBoingo Maybe?
23:54 Vexual no
23:54 mthreat i have a theory that everyone is a markov chain, but some of us are larger chains than others
23:54 mircea_popescu mthreat by the way, you coming to that thing wed ?
23:54 The20YearIRCloud I've never met a markov chain that put reasonable responses together
23:54 mthreat mircea_popescu: which thing
23:54 mircea_popescu The20YearIRCloud i take it you don't read vexual
23:54 mircea_popescu mthreat coffee chat thing
23:55 Vexual now kick those good old boys hard just behind the balls and turn the paper 180
23:55 mthreat mircea_popescu: oh, hmm not sure. i'm actually working for a local startup. I'm a working stiff again.
23:55 BingoBoingo !up The20YearIRCloud
23:55 mircea_popescu they have local start-ups ?!
23:55 The20YearIRCloud i need to get my vpn up again so I can auth at home
23:56 The20YearIRCloud Let it be known - I tried to explain company concepts to a bot
23:56 mthreat mircea_popescu: if I can make it, i'll be there. Ya, just working in the afternoons right now, for a month test
23:56 mircea_popescu aite.
23:56 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://contravex.com/2014/07/17/proof-that-mycelium-knows-how-to-make-a-better-rng-for-its-entropy-dongle-and-isnt/http:// << this link is broken
23:56 assbot Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
23:56 BingoBoingo Ah, will fix nao
23:57 mthreat mircea_popescu: michelle will be there
23:57 The20YearIRCloud Obama?
23:57 mthreat pleese
23:57 mircea_popescu The20YearIRCloud a better looking michelle.
23:57 The20YearIRCloud rodriguez?
23:58 mircea_popescu "I'm not surprised you get along well with all the other neighbours. If you put fifty children with Down's syndrome in a room there is going to be a lot of hugging." << hawthorne should be quoted more often.
23:58 mthreat ya michelle rodriguez is hot alright
23:58 BingoBoingo Indeed he should be
23:58 The20YearIRCloud that's the first famous michelle that came to mind
23:58 mircea_popescu i had no idea she existed.
23:59 mthreat mircea_popescu: who, michelle rodriguez? don't you watch fast & furious movies??
23:59 mircea_popescu uh
23:59 mircea_popescu what are those ?
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