#trilema | 2014-08-01

New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-july-2014-statement/

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[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 88 @ 0.00680035 = 0.5984 BTC [-] {4}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00082721 = 7.5276 BTC [-]

00:31

that was a quality limerick

00:43

lots of name changing going on right meow

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So much

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6046 @ 0.0008218 = 4.9686 BTC [-]

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!up so

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29732 @ 0.00082202 = 24.4403 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 400 @ 0.00399995 = 1.6 BTC [+] {3}

01:23

oooo so vexual

01:27

huh?

01:30

metro vexual

01:31

you know it baby

~ 19 minutes ~

01:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12718 @ 0.00082294 = 10.4662 BTC [+]

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Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.04679693 BTC. Current weight: 96,071.

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asciilifeform re: clocks << http://ok0epb.nagano.cz/index.php?page=Main+page << Czech guy built a Froment clock, put in vaccuum chamber, transmits time using Morse code on shortwave

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Main page - OK0EPB - 7 039,4 kHz

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00082211 = 12.0439 BTC [-] {2}

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!t m f.mpif

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[MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00019 / 0.00020681 / 0.00021999 (91619 shares, 18.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00019 / 0.00020681 / 0.00021999 (91620 shares, 18.95 BTC)

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 250 @ 0.0026944 = 0.6736 BTC [-] {6}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.00269084 = 0.6054 BTC [-] {2}

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!mpif

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BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.87 B). Delta: -0.41 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]

02:31

http://fapworthy.org/

02:31

Fapworthy

02:39

!up yamaka

02:39

!up Guest25029

02:39

!up so

02:39

!up DreadKnight

02:40

woot

02:42

New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/08/01/F.MPIF-July-2014-trading-statement

02:42

Hello everybody

02:43

heya

02:44

^ MPIF marketmaker incured not-quite-a-loss

02:44

hello

02:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17388 @ 0.0008211 = 14.2773 BTC [-]

02:56

!up peeta

03:01

TheNewDeal ikr

03:08

it's a tough racket, eh jurov ?

03:14

so are you getting a Trezor Mircea?

03:15

nope.

03:16

do you actively distrust it?

03:17

how do you actively distrust something ?

03:17

i've not put out a scam tag on it if that's what you';re asking.

03:20

ok, yeah, that's what I was asking.. "actively" being my clumsy way of asking if you had more than vague, general misgivings or just no reason to trust it

03:21

ok, changing topic... I recently learned about volatility drag for the first time... I'm assuming you're familiar with it?

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I prefer my women to be women

03:21

never been a fan of drag

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lol

03:22

so, I know you were supportive of Just-Dice at the beginning... I'm guessing you followed the nakowa saga?

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what I was wondering is if nakowa's big win can be explained by volatility drag or not

03:23

events aren't really to be explained is the thing. what are you goint to explain ?

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fluffypony do they even have drag in south africa ?

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lol

03:25

we have drag racers

03:25

just like canada down there huh.

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!up peeta

03:26

who're you anyway ?

03:27

ok, so it all hinges on the max profit %... if it was anything above 2% a blowup was likely because the volatility drag would be over the expected earnings

03:27

soon after nakowa the max profit % went from 1% to 0.5%

03:28

who am I? honestly just someone wanting to learn... but I have no one to bounce ideas with

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sorry if I'm just blurting this out without much preamble

03:29

I was a Just-Dice investor

03:29

btw, were you, a JD investor?

03:29

yes, i gave the site a start.

03:32

ok, thanks for hearing my ramblings... I'll go sleep and mull this over and hopefully come back with fresher thoughts... goodbye :)

03:36

anyway, for the record, "volatility drag" is an artefact of the poor public school system in the us. the only reason it exists is that people do arithmetic rather than geometric %s. in other words, they don't compound.

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it's also mildly useful for crooked hedge fund mangers to explain to their half smart moneyed audience why exactly it is that i can make any % i want and they can only make a % that's two digits no matter what happens.

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Bet placed: 1.1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 21(Y):79(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.84679693 BTC. Current weight: 95,793.

03:47

!up neuroBed

03:48

neuroBed

whoops

03:48

neuroBed

i forgot i was in this channel

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neuroBed

haha

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:p

03:51

i feel a limerick coming

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oh i got one

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*ew

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there once was a neuro named Mode, who swallowed a rather large toad, with Myriads of coins, all girding his loins, he would ribbited, cackled, and crowed!

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ahahaa not bad at all.]

03:58

" In June, U.S. Marshals auctioned off Bitcoins seized from Silk Road, the online market for illegal goods and services. Draper bought the lot for $20 million, beating out 44 other bidders."

03:59

is that an approximation?

03:59

so he paid $666 each?

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:-P

04:01

sounds just about right lol

04:03

what was the number for the bet?

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~19 and change.

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no the price at whatever exchange at whatever time

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yeah.

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of course

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refund the SR bet now imo

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or i could tell you the asnnswer

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i didn't bet because i thought what happened might happened

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i think punkman mentioned that was his reasoning for not better either

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1962 @ 0.00268007 = 5.2583 BTC [-] {4}

04:09

it's 600 * 30 pretty much, like 18.

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high price was like 600.86 iirc.

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666 is prolly about right

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Oh, USMS released FOIA or what?

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cost more than pay both

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the answer will come

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+up neuroCreep

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der+p

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!up neuroCreep

04:20

!mpif

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BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.87 B). Delta: -0.41 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]

04:22

fluffypony, you aren't allowed to limerick anymore

04:22

mircea_popescu, which article is that from? i found it on google but the actually article has the quote regarding $20 million price removed

04:22

neuroCreep: not a fan of toads?

04:22

mmm chart porn

04:23

adnoidally challenged from harlem

04:23

getting polwed much harder than farming

04:24

the creams got so loud

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she woke the whole croud

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now grows pork and is everyones darlin

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lol

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nice rhymes, Vexual

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you should rap

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no. i shouldnt

04:28

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71126 @ 0.00081932 = 58.275 BTC [-] {6}

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biznisweek.

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http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-31/six-californias-a-tim-draper-idea-just-as-madcap-as-the-others

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Six Californias: A Tim Draper Idea Just as Madcap as the Others - Businessweek

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quote has been removed

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lol i guess that's that then.

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it's still in google if you search the quote though

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lulzy,

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i guess either the guy accidentally let it slip and threatened them to sue, or else it was dumbass copy and the editor fixed it.

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There once was a pony named Fluff

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Who thought ring signatures werent enough.

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He hoofed code on his rear

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like a monkey scribing Shakespeare

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and developed anonymous cream puffs.

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Thankfully the bet is closed so there isn't a bunch of late betting before the FOIA requests go through

04:38

A fluffypony limerick

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i twouldnt have weight anyway

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hah hah

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:)

04:39

mircea_popescu: The dickstabbers would bet and then wonder how they can lose money on the winning side.

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and developed an anonymous cream puff* would have been better

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%t

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[X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 205 24h-Vol: 20k High: 206 Low: 205 VWAP: 205

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%ob

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8k@260 17k@250 44k@248 | 23k@203 100k@202 45k@201

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;;bc,stats

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04:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00081712 = 13.7276 BTC [-]

~ 42 minutes ~

05:31

That dude paid $666 each then for the SR bitcoins? :o

05:32

Seems likely

05:33

Interesting... wonder has this fuelled the uptrend that emerged from the $555 low yesterday.

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Hard to say. I guess we'll find out the price paid for certain if the FOIA act requests go through.

05:36

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2851001 = 0.5702 BTC [-]

05:43

well they can't refuse FOIA as it's .gov, right?

05:48

Well, FOIA has been refused before for other things, but...

05:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00081712 = 23.5739 BTC [-]

06:03

"I would advise that you contact your bank to ensure your IBAN number is correct. Please mention that you are trying to add your bank account to your PayPal account. In some cases you might receive a slightly modified version of your IBAN from your bank."

06:04

yes my bank is gonna give me a different IBAN just for Paypal

06:04

because that makes sense

06:05

another day another reply, no actionable information whatsoever

06:05

at least they admit their shit is broken: "We are aware of a number of customers who are currently unable to add their bank accounts to PayPal."

06:13

!up mpoe

06:13

Hello mpoe

06:13

punkman you need money out of PayPal ?

06:14

not yet, but there's a small amount coming soon, and I don't like to leave a balance with them

06:14

Vultures.

06:16

also found 700eur in my bank account today, no idea who sent it. what is happening ?!

06:17

who's setting me up for money laundering?

06:17

punkman I think I sent it by accident, please send it to my Nigerian Uncle. He is a Prince. Totally legit.

06:20

!up DreadKnight

06:22

Nigerian Uncle, lulz

06:23

ahaha just figured it out, it's from the government's "social solidarity fund", no idea why I qualify for that shit

06:23

if no need for moneys, pass it on

06:24

plox 2 gief maniez.

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!up PixelBacon

06:26

DreadKnight, BigBitz: no begging without titties

06:31

oh now it makes sense, accountant says he applied for the moneyz

06:32

that's more than I pay him, guess I should buy him a bottle of booze

06:38

!up karma

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%diff

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[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 498109.31 in 478 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -27.51

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%p

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[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.02 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 2553.69 GH/s

06:39

wonder if we can make #50000 in the next 3 weeks

06:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24809 @ 0.00081712 = 20.2719 BTC [-]

06:42

punkman: What do you mean by #50000?

06:42

block number

06:42

;;blocks

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313471

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ah ATC lol.

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http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/

06:43

BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.5 B (26%) on Yes, 7.05 B (74%) on No | closed 5 days 10 hours ago

06:43

was a bit too expensive to rent a TH or two last I checked

06:44

Ah

06:45

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5

06:45

these are not too expensive, maybe if I had cheaper power

06:45

1100w

06:46

punkman: Well...

06:46

DOn't they have a S3 or ZE or something nao

06:47

anyone know about Miles&More and how they compute the number of status relevant flights?

06:47

s3 is 0.45 TH

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and it's preorder

06:47

https://www.112bit.com/product/antminer-s3-dual-blade-batch-3/

06:49

gov subsidized a bunch of PV installations around here and most of them remain unconnected and can't sell back to the grid

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AH

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%t

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[X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 23k High: 205 Low: 203 VWAP: 204

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http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/720px-Augustines_law.svg_-640x480.png

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1079 @ 0.0025921 = 2.7969 BTC [-] {25}

06:59

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1171 @ 0.00252393 = 2.9555 BTC [-] {10}

07:01

!up ADutchGamer

07:07

!up pleego

07:18

!up Quanttek

07:18

!up AlexWkz

07:23

https://www.ninkip2p.com/#howitworks

07:23

Ninki | Bitcoin PGP Wallet Network

07:35

another wallet inspector

07:35

punkman +++

07:36

"Your hot private key is encrypted by a password only you know using AES 256 encryption and stored in our database. "

↖

07:36

your cold key is the real thing, and then there's their key

07:36

so I suppose it's 2 of 3 and they can take your moneyz

07:37

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.27851406 = 6.1273 BTC [-] {13}

07:37

They only keep one key, punkman.

07:38

nope, they want your encrypted hot key in their database

07:40

"When I first heard of Ninkip2p, I was ecstatic. Finally, we have a PGP wallet we can use to keep our Bitcoin transactions even more secure? They also packaged it into a very clean and attractive interface"

07:40

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.265 = 0.53 BTC [-]

07:40

ah just re-read it, sorry, punkman.

07:44

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/08/01/solar_storm_a_massive_2012_cme_just_missed_the_earth.html

07:44

Solar storm: A massive 2012 CME just missed the Earth.

07:46

sun farts

07:47

scary stuff

07:50

punkman: Sun farts are indeed a contingency to plan for

07:51

BingoBoingo, problem is I can't fix those giant transformers that will blow out

07:52

and from what I've read they don't keep too many spares

07:52

punkman: Not for that, for Data backup and having computing machine that will work after such an event

07:52

start learning how to sha256 by hand

07:53

laptop's gonna be fine

07:53

punkman: Depends on how big the event is where the laptop is, and whether it is plugged in.

07:54

Among other things.

07:57

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 450 @ 0.00270003 = 1.215 BTC [-] {4}

08:00

<BingoBoingo> punkman: Not for that, for Data backup and having computing machine that will work after such an event/watch solar weather and have a nice big metal trash can to pop laptops and flash drives and stuff into

08:01

chetty: Make sure to ground the can.

08:01

unplugged flash memory in danger?

08:02

punkman: Maybe? Metal or plastic casing?

08:02

Even with plastic casing some supplementary protection may be called for

08:03

I thought unplugged laptop on shelf would be safe

08:03

punkman: It could be, but depends on the size of the event.

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And the intensity

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a little extra caution is usually a good thing

08:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00081681 = 3.2672 BTC [-]

08:09

BingoBoingo: gut says if laptop is damaged on shelf, I have much bigger problems

08:10

Maybe?

08:14

New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/07/31/y-combinator-the-american-idol-of-venture-capital/

08:20

!up Shakespeare

08:22

!up diana_coman

08:22

!up belcher

08:22

!up ziggamon

08:22

thanks BingoBoingo, hello

08:22

diana_coman: Hello to you too

08:25

now I'm curious whether it will voice me down in ~30 min or not, lol

08:27

diana_coman: Well, there is only one way to find out

08:28

well,kind of 2, since whoever implemented it should know

08:28

but will wait, nothing wrong with that

08:29

Well I dunno that even kakobrekla can always anticipate assbot's actual workings

08:31

ahaha, is the code already that arcane then? I did not realise it had enough history for that really

08:32

If you wait long enough everything has hisotry

08:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00081821 = 5.3593 BTC [+] {2}

08:34

can't argue with that

08:42

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/31/UN-Condemns-Israel-s-Latest-War-Crime-Not-Sharing-Iron-Dome-with-Hamas

08:42

UN Condemns Israel's Latest War Crime: Not Sharing Iron Dome with Hamas

08:50

it's lame that if i auth as thickasthieves while using a diff nick, assbot won't let me !up, regardless of nick or being auth'd with gribble already

08:51

throw the assbot down the well!

08:52

dont forget the baby!

08:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2439 @ 0.00082072 = 2.0017 BTC [+] {2}

08:56

"Upgrading encryption software might mask communications for al-Qaida temporarily, but probably not for long, Schneier said.

08:56

"It is relatively easy to find vulnerabilities in software," he added. "This is why cyber criminals do so well stealing our credit cards. And it is also going to be why intelligence agencies are going to be able to break whatever software these al-Qaida operatives are using."

08:56

The NSA, for its part, declined to comment."

08:57

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/08/01/336958020/big-data-firm-says-it-can-link-snowden-data-to-changed-terrorist-behavior

08:57

Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior : The Two-Way : NPR

08:58

Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data to Improved Security Behavior Worldwide

08:59

<thickasthieves> Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data to Improved Security Behavior Worldwide// you think?

09:02

well i'm just contrasting, two ways to write a bullshit article

09:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00082224 = 12.3747 BTC [+]

09:08

article and BS seem to be evolving into synonyms

09:12

pretty much

09:12

every article i read first goes through a what-are-they-trying-to-make-me-feel/think filter

09:12

cuz so many articles are just an agenda

~ 27 minutes ~

09:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00082224 = 3.8234 BTC [+]

09:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00082201 = 7.4803 BTC [-]

09:58

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/why-the-head-of-mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange-should-be-in-jail/

09:58

Why the head of Mt. Gox Bitcoin exchange should be in jail | Ars Technica

09:58

just the head

09:58

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1227215-judgement-karpeles.html

09:58

Judgement Karpeles

09:59

novusordo: Well... "The 2010 decision shows that Karpeles lost by default, and he was found liable of fraudulent access to an automated data processing system and fraudulent changes to data contained in an automated data processing system. The document also states that Karpeles admitted to French authorities that he had pirated a server."

09:59

fluffypony: around?

09:59

xmj: in a meeting

10:01

seems like a great fellow to hold the reins to a currency exchange

10:01

<BingoBoingo> Well I dunno that even kakobrekla can always anticipate assbot's actual workings < - also the other way around.

10:01

Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3QYQSQG.txt )

10:01

!b 1

10:02

fluffypony: ever heard of Kasoro (pty) Ltd. ?

10:04

xmj: not at all

10:04

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12028 @ 0.00082201 = 9.8871 BTC [-]

10:05

fluffypony: ok thanks

10:06

(you never know. this world is so damn small)

10:11

assbot and kakobrekla Confounding each other

10:11

!up fnyr

10:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082453 = 17.48 BTC [+] {2}

~ 15 minutes ~

10:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00082244 = 11.0207 BTC [-] {2}

10:38

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29979109 = 1.7987 BTC [+] {3}

~ 29 minutes ~

11:08

https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/495223061386645504

11:10

danielpbarron timtams from -otc runs LetsTalkBitcoin I think!

11:10

no

11:10

he runs something else

11:11

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2998 = 1.499 BTC [+]

11:11

You, Me and BTC

11:11

that's what he runs

11:11

ltb is Adam B. Levine @gamerandy i think

11:12

Who has time to listen to podcasts when reading is so much faster

11:16

ah yeah, nice fluffypony.

11:20

BingoBoingo: while driving

11:20

reading isn't faster while driving

11:21

novusordo: Driving is for listening to baseball games or hot stove

11:21

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2999 = 1.4995 BTC [+]

11:22

Though with the non-waiver trade deadline having passed yesterday hot stove slows down for a bit

11:22

!up thickasthieves

11:22

thx

11:25

!up ziggamon

11:26

bought a mattress from overstock, paying with bitcoin literally helps me sleep better at night.

11:27

Hey guys! Here’s some thoughts I wrote down on why people sometimes sound religious around bitcoin http://ziggamon.tumblr.com/post/93502914957/why-bitcoin-is-religious

11:27

Sergej Kotliar — Why Bitcoin is "religious"

11:29

curious about your feedback, been lurking around here and your blogs

11:31

even though we have Luke-Jr over here, imo fiat is more religious than btc.

11:31

agreed

11:31

ziggamon: Interesting stuff

11:32

kakobrekla: Don't forget danielpbarron

11:32

i dont know about him

11:32

he loves jesus too

11:33

a.

11:33

follow-up thought on "cats don't love". Do babies love?

11:34

kakobrekla: danielpbarron is an honest holy man. spreads the words of God's hate

11:34

ziggamon: So BTC is religious in the Cantor's going mad contemplating infinities and set theory way?

11:36

BingoBoingo: perhaps something like that

11:36

as a vessel for hope, I suppose it is religious

11:37

any religion starts with a cool magic trick. distributed consensus among among liars and thieves is a pretty neat trick

11:37

ziggamon: There's a long history of people surrounded by math feeling a touch of religion through the purity of the numbers

11:38

see Anathem

11:38

Pythagoras and his cult are usually the first ones people remember

11:42

I mean religious in quotes. as in something that is within the realm of belief. you must trust the invisible hand that powers the consensus mechanism.

11:44

<BingoBoingo> http://fapworthy.org/ << lol faye raegan is a redheads?

11:44

Fapworthy

11:44

ben_vulpes: Maybe?

11:44

ziggamon: Sure

11:45

ziggamon: Open source though means you can stare into the beast's heart

11:46

BingoBoingo: in a way. but also not, since the ecosystem is so much larger than the algorithm itself

11:46

ziggamon: Of course

11:47

it’s like the ouija board. you know what it looks like and you know that it’s your collective hands under the table moving it. but it appears unpredictable and magic

11:51

gotta run, thanks for reading

11:51

You're welcome

11:59

[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71440500 BTC to 12`775 shares, 13420 satoshi per share

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 17.98581232 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1564 satoshi per share

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00082674 = 13.6412 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 4.03006220 BTC to 29`438 shares, 13690 satoshi per share

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<BingoBoingo> http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/720px-Augustines_law.svg_-640x480.png << dat log scale.

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 227 @ 0.00265014 = 0.6016 BTC [+] {3}

12:45

!up bats_cd03

12:45

<thickasthieves> follow-up thought on "cats don't love". Do babies love? what is love?

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baby don't hurt me

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baby don't hurt me

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no more

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got mah facedancer in the mail http://goodfet.sourceforge.net/hardware/facedancer21/ ^_____^

12:46

GoodFET -- Facedancer21

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hax the planet, etc.

12:46

ah that's p neat

12:46

are you familiar with the provenance of the face dancer name, bats_cd03 ?

12:47

dune?

12:47

dem niggas r crazy.

12:47

dat's right

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i even read some of the stuff in the universe written by the dude's son after he passed. wasn't good.

12:48

indeed.

12:48

though supposedly he had daddy's notes. hum.

12:48

well notes are not authorial voice

12:48

http://www.hillydilly.com/2014/07/rizzle-kicks-tell-her-arkon-fly-remix/

12:48

Rizzle Kicks – “Tell Her” (Arkon Fly Remix) | Hillydilly

12:52

http://www.reddit.com/r/askmen/comments/24bwmt/what_is_life_like_for_an_unattractive_man/ch5o4lu people r sad

12:52

chikinpickle comments on What is life like for an unattractive man?

12:52

9 gold awards, wtf?

12:54

asciilifeform: have any docs you think would be useful to someone doing firmware research on usb stack?

12:56

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 575 @ 0.00270772 = 1.5569 BTC [+] {5}

12:56

bats_cd03: kinda why i don't give much truck to people complaining about how hard group "x" has it - there's always another group bitching about something.

12:57

http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html a good novella if you havent read it already

12:57

The Egg

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2431 @ 0.00272566 = 6.6261 BTC [+] {5}

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dudes need to get over it or kill themselves.

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 444 @ 0.00274 = 1.2166 BTC [+]

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The Egg vaguely reminds me of God's Debris

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which is also worth a read if you haven't. its written by Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert.

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http://nowscape.com/godsdebris.pdf

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V7EugoweM4

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2CELLOS - Welcome To The Jungle [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube

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http://youtu.be/l4M18wW9YTw

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Tom Walker from www.floridahoghunts.com American Hoggers kills huge boar with Wasp Injection Knife - YouTube

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O_O

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*

bats_cd03 adds killing a shark with a wasp knife to bucket list

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oh hey look another lethal object to ban

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mpYhbJsmk

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First Person: Man Battles Tiger Shark - YouTube

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00082506 = 30.5272 BTC [-] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3250 @ 0.00252867 = 8.2182 BTC [-] {25}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00252 = 1.764 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1009 @ 0.00253148 = 2.5543 BTC [-] {4}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2000 @ 0.00251821 = 5.0364 BTC [-] {8}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1172 @ 0.00250652 = 2.9376 BTC [-] {7}

13:44

office assistant in this shop looks and smells so good

13:45

punkman: yes my bank is gonna give me a different IBAN just for Paypal << that's lulzy. srsly, tell the bank some script indian said iban is ambiguous. maybe you need a new ipban

13:46

ben_vulpes does she want to earn btc ?

13:46

(implying a man may look good but could never smell good)

13:46

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 220 @ 0.0025 = 0.55 BTC [-] {2}

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punkman: ahaha just figured it out, it's from the government's "social solidarity fund", no idea why I qualify for that shit << because you're poor!

13:48

His Highness Shaikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE, in his capacity as the Ruler of Dubai, has issued Law No. 7 of 2012 regarding social benefits for UAE nationals in Dubai.

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The law stipulates the establishment of a Social Solidarity Fund as part of the organisational structure of the Community Development Authority (CDA) with aims to enhance cooperation among society members and provide social welfare for eligible Emirati families.

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mircea_popescu: what do you have in mind? i don't know her well enough to pimp her tits out (yet).

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ah then ok :p

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plus i don't know if it's that good of an idea to start diddling the help

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well if the help smells good it's asking for it!!1

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BingoBoingo: punkman: Depends on how big the event is where the laptop is, and whether it is plugged in. << not really. plug your laptop into 110kv, the transformer wil blow, maybe the power entry will blow, the hdd won't blow.

13:55

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 434 @ 0.0026583 = 1.1537 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1191 @ 0.00273887 = 3.262 BTC [+] {11}

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might just be that time of the month who knows

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also i'm starting to suspect that hormonal birth control makes teh wimminz ultrasad due to not knowing that they're going through the usual hormonal flux. just 'cause there's no bleeding doesn't mean that there are no hormones flopping around.

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screwin with de hormones causes all sorts of problems ...like higher chance of breast cancer ..

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bc pills are well documented to cause depression.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00082364 = 10.3779 BTC [-]

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but hey, it's the way nature usually hits one over the head. they want to live in a world where men don't kill their kids, no matter what. turns out that can be built, but the cost is they can also never be happy.

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a fair cop.

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1650 @ 0.00250706 = 4.1366 BTC [-] {6}

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 325 @ 0.00250043 = 0.8126 BTC [-] {5}

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pardon my ignorance, but what does bc have to do with infanticide?

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ah, now that's a long trip. lets go.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raXKeQ5qFwo consider this song.

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Johnny Cash "Don't Take Your Guns to Town" - YouTube

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A dusty cowpoke at his side began to laugh him down [...] But the stranger drew his gun and fired before he even saw.

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so now here we go : they had no bc there, and as an indirect but quite certain consequence, that cowpoke'd have given any woman as many kids as she could carry.

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but the woman in question wasn't happy with the idiocy control. so as a result... the guy wouldn't impregnate her anymore. and here we are.

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technical solutions for problems that should never be solved.

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let her cry her heart out and make a better one next time, i say.

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.29982517 = 4.1976 BTC [-] {2}

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only someone that didnt spend nine months waddling would see it that way

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obviously.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

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Every Sperm is Sacred - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life - YouTube

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im not saying the female pov is illegitimate, merely unfortunate.

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00250102 = 2.501 BTC [-] {3}

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hey mircea_popescu for once we agree

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now someone wanted to see what white meant, days ago. well this is it. the ideology of early feudal lords.

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on an entirely different topic, does anyone have a good hack for measuring the OD of a tube?

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w/out calipers

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get lined paper, set it down, draw a circle.

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myeah

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damned thing has a wide ring around its bottom though

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cut strip of lined paper, put it around tube, divide by pee.

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ooooooh

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the word you're looking for is doooh.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO37Ql91qqM

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The Many D'ohs of Homer Simpson! - YouTube

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 746 @ 0.00290991 = 2.1708 BTC [+] {5}

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i've always been the kind of learner who did best by wandering around the junkyard asking "what is this" of someone who knows than the kind of guy who comes up with the universal joint from first principles

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(don't actually need the other human these days, but it's still a fun thing to do)

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well this'd explain why you're getting laid.

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!?

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the other type doesn't.

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the thing with getting laid is you gotta ask.

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now i have to find a ruler somewhere in this shitshow

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other people's shops...

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ok, no cali is one thing. no ruler ?! what do you mean by "shop" ?

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place where things are made.

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even nurseries have measuring tape.

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atoms agglomerated together

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"find"

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nominally 1.233 OD

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dast i get a 1.25 ID pipe and trust it to fit?

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(no.)

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1 3/8.

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the 1 3/8 is id.

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yeah.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54300 @ 0.00082707 = 44.9099 BTC [+] {6}

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*

ben_vulpes has fit many a pipe inside other pipes

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WHY AM I BACK TO BANGING ON ATOMS

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1.233 OD will fit in 1/38 ID

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1 3/8 even

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1.233 < 1.375

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but why are you nesting pipes inside each other?

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making a heat exchanger or something?

14:33

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/why-the-head-of-mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange-should-be-in-jail/

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Why the head of Mt. Gox Bitcoin exchange should be in jail | Ars Technica

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http://instagram.com/p/rKofaiFb0h/

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Instagram

14:46

fluffypony "because trilema said so a year ago" ?

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beacuse the world just woke up

14:46

chetty, must be love!

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lol

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IJw9jid5Yk cash is actually quite great huh.

14:47

I won't back down - Johnny Cash (lyrics) - YouTube

14:51

RentalStarter conference call is going to be starting in a little over an hour

14:51

Most impressively, the NASA team specifically built two Cannae Drives, including one that was designed to fail, and instead it worked. As the scientists write in their paper abstract: "thrust was observed on both test articles, even though one of the test articles was designed with the expectation that it would not produce thrust." That suggests the drive is "producing a force that is

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not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon," the scientists write.

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magical microwaves

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 505 @ 0.00268578 = 1.3563 BTC [+] {3}

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Which either disproves the test or disproves newton's law of motion

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magnetism is by far the least understood macrophenomenon.

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if magnetism was a chick, the only thing we'd know about her would be that it interacts with the cock (ie, electric field)

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I hope that this test proves conservation of motion in space wrong and they can produce drives with the thrust possibilities as they believe are possible

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 470 @ 0.00255034 = 1.1987 BTC [-]

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"My Journal is the PERFECT example of what EMOTION will do to you in this game. I just updated it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AieQiVL6xc-1dHE5anhTSGotYUVIMmR5cERIYU5BOVE&output=html"

14:56

Fehler in Google Drive

14:56

the guy is still going

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7/26 MARGIN CALL -7000

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what's this about ?

14:57

remember that googlde doc i shared a few weeks ago

14:57

emotional traders logs

14:57

well i said, the guy's problem is he's too emotional

14:58

now he says so too

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ah

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he has all these quotes and observations

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no "as tat said" included huh ?

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for inspiraton

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well i didnt say it to him

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a

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just you gais

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<kuzetsa> but why are you nesting pipes inside each other? << standing desk on the cheap

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in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7xs6nopc1qddd4so1_500.jpg

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<The20YearIRCloud> I hope that this test proves conservation of motion in space wrong << i think you mean conservation of momentum

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http://i.imgur.com/r8rqkoR.gif

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o wow all teh extra skin

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http://i.imgur.com/iiJqt2T.png

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ben_vulpes: that's what i meant, yes

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00082822 = 5.2178 BTC [+] {2}

15:06

fluffypony lol not bad

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http://www.wfsb.com/story/26174225/police-do-not-call-us-if-facebook-is-down

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Police: Do not call us if Facebook is down - WFSB 3 Connecticut

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lol

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i wonder if they called their politician too

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00083008 = 23.3252 BTC [+] {4}

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FabianB

$traded

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empyex

FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00082364 = 2.4709 BTC [-]

15:29

An English blogger writing for the Nomen Global Language Center in Utah was fired for posting about homophones last week after his employer said the word was too close to homosexual and homophobe.

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wow

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dangerous words

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lmao

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we are already living idiocracy

15:47

The RentalStarter conference call is live in 15m at : https://plus.google.com/events/ck5l6dn5dhp2nvujfcrc64e66n0

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punkman: I thought unplugged laptop on shelf would be safe < you know you can actually calculate the induced current as a function of speed, field and the conductors in question.

16:06

mafs iz harrrrrd

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thickasthieves: "Upgrading encryption software might mask communications for al-Qaida temporarily, but probably not for long, Schneier said. << schneier is such an unmitigated twerp.

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no, they're not "our" credit cards they're stealing, they're ~the bank's~. and no, it's not because "vulnerabilities in software". it's because instead of waiting on every word here, the banks in question pay off twerps to pretend.

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thickasthieves: well i'm just contrasting, two ways to write a bullshit article << word.

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ziggamon: curious about your feedback, been lurking around here and your blogs << i had nfi one could write on tumblr.

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!up bgupta

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00082735 = 9.3491 BTC [+]

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anyway, it's a scratch on the surface, the intuitions i suspect largely correct, but one could really go into a lot more detailed analysis on the topic. probably with the tools of the psychiatrist or antropologist.

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thickasthieves: follow-up thought on "cats don't love". Do babies love? << no. this is well studied, first they consume, then they deject, then they love.

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you mean love comes with puberty or?

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a no, muy earlier

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3, 5, something.

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mircea_popescu: schneier's a winblowz user. assumes pwnage.

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which isn't really that bad an opsec notion.

16:17

ben_vulpes the ethical expectation of mastery is that it may never say fundamentally wrong things. it may adapt fundamentally correct things to any audience, but it never say teh booboo.

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schneier regularly says the booboo, which is what makes him such a fucking shitface.

16:17

https://twitter.com/oleg_dbooks

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Oleg (oleg_dbooks) auf Twitter

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ben_vulpes wut is that ?1

16:19

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [+] {2}

16:19

ziggamon: I mean religious in quotes. as in something that is within the realm of belief. you must trust the invisible hand that powers the consensus mechanism. << never trust a "mechanism". if you have to trust, pick someone to trust and trust them.

16:21

New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/millers-crossing/

16:21

What... Japanese trustee for MtGox's bankruptcy will look into if it is possible to do distribution in bitcoins?

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I'm surprised they'd make they effort to attempt it, would have imagined a straight liquidation of assets for distribution in fiat.

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mircea_popescu: a few friends of mine hack on a software-as-performance-art piece called OlegDB

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ah ic.

16:22

that markov chain is a reference to "horse ebooks", and is either a markov chain or one of the hackers in question

16:22

https://olegdb.org/

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OlegDB - Project Home

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https://olegdb.org/static/img/olegdb.svg

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OlegDB is a database that meets the bottom line head-on. It operates under a startling new enterprise-ready paradigm which we call MAYO: Marginally available Yolk and Oil database.

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https://olegdb.org/static/img/olegdb3.svg

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it's just so damn good

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bats_cd03: http://www.reddit.com/r/askmen/comments/24bwmt/what_is_life_like_for_an_unattractive_man/ch5o4lu people r sad << imo he has it much too good.

16:25

chikinpickle comments on What is life like for an unattractive man?

16:25

fucking whiners. what happened to being thankful for the scrap he got!

16:26

everyone figures himself the fucking president or something now.

16:27

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00082911 = 17.1626 BTC [+]

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first, you allow all the failures in the pool. then, they figure they should count for something, they're there after all, no ? and next, since being a failure is easier, how about make it mandatory! and then have a vote about how things should be, with a million fucking failures everywhere.

16:28

this is flesh inflation.

16:29

this is life under the monogamous regime. one for one and all shall have one

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i guess that may be, the brits ended up with a shitton of spinsters once they tried to be both sane and puritanically monogamous.

16:31

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 325 @ 0.0026832 = 0.872 BTC [-] {2}

16:32

http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks/ << lol check it out. reddit has discovered people mostly use them for lolz and DONT LIKE IT!

16:32

SRSSucks - where we mock the actual ridiculous shit reddit says

16:34

I remember high-school too. I remember also how people I never saw recognized me.

16:35

i remember running into teachers in town and them going "you know i've not seen you this year"

16:35

Classes too slow for you, eh?

16:36

kinda, yeah.

16:37

well this was like.. geography. who the fuck cares, buy a reference book.

16:38

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11606 @ 0.00083048 = 9.6386 BTC [+] {2}

16:39

;;ticker --currency eur

16:39

Bitstamp BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 444.28802, Best ask: 446.693401, Bid-ask spread: 2.40538, Last trade: 444.28802, 24 hour volume: 11806.57812788, 24 hour low: 433.244119, 24 hour high: 452.18184, 24 hour vwap: 443.013328989

16:39

;;calc 49 / [ticker --currency eur]

16:39

Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

16:39

mike_c where are youuuuu

16:44

Haha, filling of claims moved from novmeber 2014 to may 2015, and investigation of claims moved from February to September 2015.

16:45

Well it's nice to see court proceedings. It sure ain't a fast process tho.

16:50

what proceedings?

16:52

From slightly earlier lines

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[16:21] <+Namworld> What... Japanese trustee for MtGox's bankruptcy will look into if it is possible to do distribution in bitcoins?

16:52

[16:22] <+Namworld> I'm surprised they'd make they effort to attempt it, would have imagined a straight liquidation of assets for distribution in fiat.

16:52

I check it out every month or two, what's happening there.

16:54

by the time they finally get paid teh btc will be 1mn

16:54

[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00268918 = 0.5378 BTC [+] {3}

16:54

Then MtGox's failure, even if they lose 90% of their BTC, will be a blessing because of the 10% they will not have been able to sell?

16:55

That would be really funny.

16:56

Not so for those who had large amounts and expected to keep them that long, but eh

17:07

pete_dushenski that ycombinator dude is beyond fucking stupid.

17:07

how did he got off the set of "dude, where's my car" anyway ?

17:07

mircea_popescu: lol i wish i knew

17:08

every second word out of his mouth was "like"

17:08

y'know like totally like this idea like fuck my ass

17:08

on one hand, you have the fed fuckwits pumping money so as to protect "the economy". at the other end, the economy is this fuckwit. meanwhile argentina has to beat them over the head with a club,

17:08

because they're too busy going lalalala to get it.

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[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 392 @ 0.0026866 = 1.0531 BTC [+] {4}

17:09

how altman found himself as president of anything more than the local car wash is a fucking mystery

17:09

he groks less than paula abdul

17:09

i think i complimented him too much in drawing the comparison between the two

17:10

there's nothing unique about anything yc touches

17:11

that whole rebranding of airbnb was a travesty

17:11

and a lesson in irrelevance

17:11

"please to update app for new logo"

17:12

literally

17:13

man you want to hear about branding gone wrong?

17:14

Airbnb iOS version 4.0.0: The Airbnb you know and love has a brand new look. Install the update and check it out! Featuring: 1) A new symbol designed to capture the spirit of our community and express what it means to belong anywhere. 2) Richer colours and more vibrant photography. 3) Booking trips, managing your listings, and other features continue to work the same way as before

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verfuckingbatim

17:14

ben_vulpes: sure

17:15

http://www.thinkgeek.com

17:15

ThinkGeek :: Join In. Geek Out.

17:15

http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/

17:15

Confessions of a Reformed InCel | M3

17:16

this guy is so excited some article got 10k views.. wtf ?!

17:16

he seems to drive, or wish to drive, a bmw m3

17:17

sorta says : i wish to feel young, swaggery, and european

17:18

"I as a man, biologically driven365 days a year to ejaculate and produce sperm as often as possible, and having the drive and desire to want it every waning moment, who is villified for this natural urge and made to feel ashamed of my sexuality, control it and subdue it to conform to the feminine imperative…"

17:19

yup, sounds like an m3 driver

17:19

sounds like someone who doesn't get laid.

17:19

precisement

17:19

it SEEMS like you'd do it 365 days a year, every waking moment, after a month in the can.

17:20

but after a month in the harem, it's like... mmm... wanna lick my asshole bebbeh ?

17:20

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00294326 = 0.883 BTC [+] {5}

17:20

m3 drivers do not under any circumstances take the girl home

17:20

what if a girl drives it ?

17:20

they have a high maintenance gf to go with the high maintenance car

17:20

mircea_popescu: good question

17:20

probably also means she's high maintenance

17:21

sorta no way outta that one

17:21

my...sister...drives a bmw.

17:21

x5?

17:22

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.30162187 = 4.8259 BTC [+] {5}

17:22

and i'd somehow imagined that mircea_popescu was an only child...

17:22

a series 5 something or the other

17:22

it's not an expensive car by any means (in europe)

17:23

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15505 @ 0.00082768 = 12.8332 BTC [+]

17:23

The M3 is the better version, right?

17:23

More pricey at least

17:23

prolly newer.

17:23

nah

17:23

m3 is the sportiest 3-series

17:24

3-series is the compact sedan

17:24

5-series is midsize, 7-series is luxobarge

17:24

My steam account has 3393.73 USD in games in it. Definitly didn't spend that much on them tho. Thanks Humble Bundles.

17:24

the M division drops in bigger engines, turbocharged these days, into the regular cars, adds larger brakes, etc

17:25

I'm starting to have too many games.

17:25

luxobarge lol

17:25

[actually no.. i've crossed 50k.] this dude... http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-pr-almost-two-years-in-the-swamp-an-anthology/ is at 61,193. FOR JULY.

17:25

MPOE-PR, almost two years in the swamp. An anthology. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

17:25

what the fuck is with these social media people, srsly. they'll take the faintest hint of nothing as clear proof of their importance.

17:25

so eager to do it, too.

17:27

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 192 @ 0.00290992 = 0.5587 BTC [-]

17:27

mircea_popescu: humans find patterns in the most benign shit. see chemtrails

17:27

yes but for most nuts those patterns aren't talking directly to them saying "omfg you're so important and we're paying attention to you!11"

17:28

and the m3 blogger looks to have toronto's skyline for a background

17:28

which also makes some sense

17:28

people there are badly confused

17:29

see construction bubble, mayor tom ford, ethereum fucktards, hipster deluge, etc

17:31

i have little idea about canada

17:33

Bet placed: 3.3332 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/776/ Odds: 24(Y):76(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 21.25194745 BTC. Current weight: 47,753.

17:33

suffice to say that nubbins` and i are 6,000km away from each other, and could be 7-8000 apart and still considered "in the same country"

17:34

<+mircea_popescu> what the fuck is with these social media people, srsly. they'll take the faintest hint of nothing as clear proof of their importance. //// If it's measurable, it has value!

17:34

well canada's only one country on the grounds of there not being enough people in it to pay for two parliaments, amirite ?

17:34

brings to mind douglas adams' : "Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

17:34

thickasthieves you may be on to something thar.

17:35

"I let myself get LJBF'ed"

17:35

fucking social media english, it's practically chinese by now.

17:35

everyone got his own little ideographics and i need a dictionary to wade through the sad produce of idiots who can't be bothered to learn a language well.

17:35

;;ud ljbf

17:35

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=LJBF | LJBF. Abbreviation for "Lets Just Be Friends". Used mostly by women to indicate that they don't want a romantic relationship, but don't mind receiving attention ...

17:35

derp.

17:36

lol

17:37

mircea_popescu: there are less populous countries than canada, but none on anywhere near this much land

17:37

http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg << that's pretty great. why does it look like diablo ?!

17:37

there's plenty of lebensraum to go around

17:37

i don't recall that cutscene in diablo.

17:39

So that tweet yesterday was apparently a bad idea. It just encourages them: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/08/01/homeopaths-and-ebola-virus-hemorrhagic-fever/

17:39

Homeopaths vs. Ebola virus hemorrhagic fever – Respectful Insolence

17:39

"I can only imagine what a productive member of civilization i would be IF i was brought up with masculine values and was sexually sated. Instead i spent my life living out the following tale trying to figure out what my problem was and living as a manic bipolar depressive. Instead here i sit, a MGTOW, never finding enough reason or desire to become productive beyond my own means."

17:39

jesus this is like... the perfect excuse, isn't it ? "i can only imagine how productive i'd be if". har har.

17:40

… if i wasn't addicted to ice cream and ate a tub every single night

17:40

this kinda shit is pervasive

17:40

helps with the sleeps

17:41

justusranvier what, they're going to africa to treat ebola through hidration ?

17:41

not a bad idea, supportive care helps some.

17:41

No, they inventing fake remedies from massively dilluted rattlesnake venom and selling them.

17:42

"If you're bleeding through your nose, use a 30 C dillution, if it gets worse and you start bleeding from your eyeballs, then increase the dilution to 50C!"

17:43

how's one to drink stuff at 50 degrees ?

17:43

hi

17:43

or is it for rubbing or something

17:43

ello xanthyos

17:43

In homoeopathy, C is a measure of dilution

17:43

a 30C solution is duluted to 1x10^-300 of its original value

17:44

uh

17:44

mean 10^60

17:44

wait.

17:44

10^60

17:44

there's not an infinity of molecules in that solution

17:44

Damn ii. 1x10^-60

17:45

you can't really dilute anything past 10^-20ish or so.

17:45

even that's iffy.

17:45

Exactly. That's why homeopathy is a scam

17:45

It's just distilled placebo water

17:45

no lol. it doesn't work at less dillution either :)

17:45

There are many reasons why homeopathy is a scam

17:45

but yeah, i suppose it's a good proof they don't grok objective reality.

17:47

homeopathy doesn't require any molecules of the original solution to remain. the theory is that it changes the resonance of surrounding water molecules in the same way that ice-nine worked in kurt vonnegut's "cat's cradle"

17:48

6.02 X 10^23 hydrogens weighs 1 gram

17:49

so 10^60 is 37 orders of magnitude less concentrated than that

17:49

There are people who sell higher than 30C dilutions

17:49

i have a theory that everyone on the internet is a computer designed to interact with me. The reality is there was a global war 40 years ago that went nuclear, all countries do not exist, the US is the only one left

17:49

i tried to make homeopathic OJ by diluting it. it's just too sweet

17:49

then i got scurvy

17:49

I have never been outside of the United States, therefore it can't be prove that other countries do exist.

17:50

google earth is the proof

17:51

The sentient computer systems set up to emulate foreigner behavior makes said maps

17:52

why would a computer run that emulation when it seems so inefficient

17:54

http://groupthink.jezebel.com/traditional-masculinity-and-sexual-preferences-1614373452

17:54

Traditional Masculinity and Sexual Preferences

18:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00082824 = 6.5017 BTC [+] {2}

18:14

;;bc,stats

18:14

18:14

;;nethash

18:14

148350542.708

18:17

heya ColinT

18:17

!up ColinT

18:18

THanks bro!

18:18

You a regular in here? :D

18:18

that i am

18:18

your first time?

18:18

Kewlies

18:18

I set it to join at some point - never really chatted in here though

18:19

cool. what brings you by today?

18:19

Nothing, client just automatically joins it

18:21

ColinT: that works :)

18:21

what are you working on these days?

18:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxNFualoPBg

18:22

boy on a bike - YouTube

18:22

Last couple months been going hard on a social location app for a client

18:22

Not Bitcoin unfortunately, but not terrible!

18:23

not at all

18:23

mod6

%t

18:23

[X-BT] Bid: 204 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 25k High: 205 Low: 203 VWAP: 204

18:24

What's new with you, holding luncheons, putting up posters? :D Hustle?

18:24

ColinT we have a few other app developers in here, such as ben_vulpes

18:24

Oh cool, greetings ben_vulpes!

18:25

i'm working on a few projects

18:25

bitcoin-related stuff is blogging, hanging out here, and meet-ups

18:25

bit of brokering

18:25

non-bitcoin stuff is family biz

18:26

Oh okay, yeah I didn't know if you were BTC full-time or not

18:27

need more skillz and knowledge for that. so here i am, sponging it up

18:28

I can't imagine a better plan!

18:29

yup, it's pretty much been 6 months since i dropped down here, so right on track as per http://contravex.com/2014/03/17/irc-yeshiva/

18:29

IRC Yeshiva | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski

18:30

i started reading the logs daily in december 2013

18:31

IRC Yeshiva eh heh?

18:31

;;ud yeshiva

18:31

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yeshiva | pl. Yeshivot 1. A Rabbinical Seminary in which young men studied Talmud under the guidance of learned Rabbis. The Yeshiva was a prominent part of E...

18:31

not bad

18:31

I'm not Jewish ;D

18:32

I just call it research I guess heh

18:34

chetty: An English blogger writing for the Nomen Global Language Center in Utah was fired for posting about ?homophones? last week after his employer said the word was too close to ?homosexual? and ?homophobe.? << holy sweet mother of retardistan

18:35

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00083014 = 8.0524 BTC [+]

18:35

ColinT: research sounds too solitary

18:35

sadly this sort of outrage is showing up daily

18:36

Gosh, all my research seems social ;D

18:36

it's more like camp for smart kids

18:36

chetty: sorta how it ends

18:37

I'm not sure humans are the greatest at coming to intelligent conclusions in groups

18:37

Too much subconscious "monkey psychology"

18:38

I would so most of my research is solitary, not social

18:38

say*

18:38

ColinT, this group, if you can call it that never seems to reach conclusions, just send all away with more homework

18:38

I'm not someone who thinks rationally in groups - because groups of people don't think rationally

18:38

Haha

18:38

well, the people here aren't just "humans," we're full fledged people

18:38

What is this some kind of cult?

18:39

so we do come to some pretty intelligent conclusions

18:39

nah, cults have leaders and ideas, a real lack of both around here

18:39

rationalism is overrated anyways

18:39

chetty: lol

18:39

Logical thinking is over-rated? ;D

18:40

Nothing works without logic... Not even people

18:40

Not even irrational people

18:40

logical =/= rational

18:40

Emotion is still a type of logic

18:40

well the odd thought flow here tends to but unusal ideas next to each opther, produces some very interesting results

18:40

<ColinT> I'm not someone who thinks rationally in groups - because groups of people don't think rationally << depends on the group.

18:40

but no, emotion ain't no type o' logic i ever heard of.

18:41

they speak english in emotion ?

18:42

Human emotions are neural network based..

18:42

So they are computed yes

18:42

I think there are some hormones in taht mix ..

18:43

If we didn't feel pain when we put our hands on a hot stove - that would be a problem

18:44

It's a type of reasoning that we do subconsciously in order to guide our actions in the world - it's implications go beyond hot stoves though

18:44

computed != logic.

18:44

everything's "computed", water in a glass included.

18:45

Not sure I follow

18:45

logic is a very narrowly, absolutely defined subclass of "computed"

18:46

ColinT a glass full of water is a glass-sized computator for water molecule position within a glass inside a gravitational field.

18:46

this does not make it logic.

18:47

the major point of difference being that out of the glass, of water or of emotion, one can extract usable entropy. not so from logic, at all.

18:47

But using it as a "computator", or its use as a "computator" has it following logical rules...

18:47

As long as you don't change the shape of the glass, the gravitational field, etc

18:47

I don't know what that means

18:48

"Useable entropy"?

18:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11597 @ 0.00083126 = 9.6401 BTC [+] {2}

18:49

myeah. okay.

18:50

!up ColinT

18:51

and on the other news front, BITCHES! http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me03z25Pi91qlne6uo1_500.jpg

18:51

Like I said, groups of people, monkeys ;D

18:51

such nip

18:52

No exception here ;D

18:54

i'm out. beer time!

18:56

;;later tell pete_dushenski buttventures!

18:56

The operation succeeded.

18:59

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/119175001_8a502f0ba6.jpg << roflmao what bullshit is this ?!

18:59

that ain't maslow's pyramid for crying out loud. this is like the #1 libertard falsification topic or what ?!

18:59

hey what's the story with the GPG-login video?

19:00

jurov: ping gpg login video?

19:00

;;later tell moiety gpg login video?

19:00

The operation succeeded.

19:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18301 @ 0.00082768 = 15.1474 BTC [-]

19:06

hey linux users: how do you typically pipe stuff into your clipboard?

19:06

xclip?

19:06

better question: what are the major CLI clipboard interfaces on linux? xclip...

19:09

ben_vulpes: what's a cli clipboard ?

19:10

command-line interface to a clipboard

19:10

like pbcopy for mac

19:10

precisely.

19:10

that'd be... xclip

19:10

http://superuser.com/questions/288320/whats-like-osxs-pbcopy-for-linux

19:10

What's like OSX's pbcopy for Linux - Super User

19:11

I googled "pbcopy for linux"

19:17

yeah, found that one.

19:23

real men use ctrl-c

19:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00082199 = 16.933 BTC [-] {2}

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19:52

F.MPIF: Panacea: 2014.07; http://dpaste.com/1NT4MM0.txt

19:53

not a great month, suffering lack of volatility since december, this is being addressed.

19:55

better than last one.

20:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4156 @ 0.00082402 = 3.4246 BTC [+]

20:20

mthreat: mircea_popescu: has ars customs completely cut amazon off from delivering?

20:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11187 @ 0.00082092 = 9.1836 BTC [-]

20:33

ben_vulpes: apparently it is very hard to receive stuff. I haven't even tried to order anything.

20:33

mthreat: what's the in-country equivalent?

20:34

ben_vulpes: MercadoLibre.com.ar is probably the closest thing

20:34

simialr to ebay

20:37

jesus fuck chrome keeps retranslating the site every time the js does something

20:37

FUCK OFF

20:37

RAHGHGA

20:46

ahahahahahahahahaha

20:46

http://superuser.com/a/680219

20:46

linux - Encrypt tar file asymmetrically - Super User

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21:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12608 @ 0.00082402 = 10.3892 BTC [+]

21:16

'...Plaintiffs Proposed Complaint includes a letter directed to Edward Snowden, in which Plaintiff seeks damages for any and all actions that

21:16

Mr. Snowden is alleged to have taken against the United States and challenges Mr. Snowden to a

21:16

game of poker at a casino of Mr. Snowden's choosing. (Id. at 21-30.) Finally, Plaintiff seeks to

21:16

recover ten duodecillion dollars in damages (llL. at 56), which is a one followed by thirty-seven

21:16

zeroes and equates to roughly 5.8 x 1023 times the gross domestic product of the United States.'

21:16

(http://cryptome.org/2014/08/purisima-snowden.pdf - mega-lol, handwritten 'lawsuit')

21:28

lol it's so crazy and yet it's written in legalese

21:31

9. The only feasible option for your own Benefit (is "come back" and surrender Here in the U.S.A. AS WELL AS "FACE THE MUSIC," as alleged by the Interviews to you on television on or about May 2014 (TO FACE THE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST YOU). Then, I will try to TONE THE MUSIC DOWN FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN DANCE EASILY WITH YOUR FAVORITE MUSIC AS WELL AS DANCE WITH (YOUR "PARTNERS") HEREIN.

21:32

mircea_popescu, http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg << that's pretty great. why does it look like diablo ?! <<< diablo has not looked like that for some time, she got a make over in diablo 3

21:33

ben_vulpes: measuring the OD of a tube << try archimedes. drown the tube, find displacement. then seal tube at one end, fill with water, find inner volume. what next - exercise for alert reader.

21:33

paha

21:34

u funny asciilifeform

21:35

see also the tired old childrens' puzzle with barometer.

21:38

ben_vulpes: borrow a 'Pnohe' with camera. photograph end of tube with object of known size laid across diameter. count pixels...

21:39

(a coin, in most countries, is good to < 1%)

21:41

alternatively, find... a bullet. typical tolerance of caliber is near 0.001 mm

21:41

if easier to find bullet than coin, re-examine engineering priorities in project.

21:44

one more method. find and disassemble a computer. inside, search for an ic with quad flatpack (e.g. TQFP-44) package. lay tube sideways across (unpowered) pins, count pins. look up their pitch (typically 0.5mm).

21:45

XD

21:45

asciilifeform: FYI you can listen to that Morse code vaccuum pendulum clock on the remote shortwave receiver I linked a few days ago.

21:45

okay okay i'm a retard i get it

21:45

I imagine the design tolerance of an SMT part is quite tight

21:52

http://cryptome.org/2014/07/gao-14-686r.pdf

21:53

If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted?

22:03

gpg --encrypt -r "$recip_1" -r "$recip_2" ... - how intersperse "-r" with the elements of $KEYS_OF_INTEREST

22:03

?

22:03

wrong chan, but if anyone's of the sentiment...

22:06

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.295 = 1.475 BTC [-]

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22:22

!up DreadKnight

22:29

justusranvier: There are many reasons why homeopathy is a scam, mircea_popescu: but yeah, i suppose it's a good proof they don't grok objective reality. << Homeopaths make their cheddar on conditions that test well against placebo

22:32

Duffer1

lmao

22:32

Duffer1

way to aim low

22:32

I just wish they'd be honest. Placebos can do some good by lowering stress, which lowers cortosol, which would otherwise get in the way of natural healing processes.

22:33

So homeopathy is just another way of saying "sometimes if you make people feel better they heal faster"

22:33

It's a minor, but non-zero, effect.

22:34

But they can't just leave it at that. They've got to cloak it in a bunch of pseudoscience bullshit

22:34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

Good Evening!

22:35

Duffer1

22:35

That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E - YouTube

22:36

justusranvier: From an article you linked >> "What they dont understand is that Ebola is unlikely to spread very far because it is so fatal." << What makes this new strain particularly dangerous is it is only killing ~60% of patients

22:37

Evening RebeccaBitcoin

22:37

oo are we discussing conspiracy theories?

22:37

how the US infected people with ebola

22:37

and shot down the plane

22:37

RebeccaBitcoin: Aren't we always?

22:37

false flag operation

22:38

RebeccaBitcoin: Nah this is the one where seekrit Ebola cure gets snuck into worthless homeopathic remedies to save Obama care dollars.

22:38

lol

22:38

Evolution in action. The least-successful viruses kill their hosts quickly. The better ones kill their host more slowly so they can infect more people. THe most successful ones don't make the host sick at all, and instead infect the germ line and become immortal.

22:38

I've always wanted to orchestrate a false flag operation.

22:39

justusranvier: Exactly that

22:40

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/02/14/mammals-made-by-viruses/

22:40

Mammals Made By Viruses : The Loom

22:42

A decent percent of the human genome share dna with various traditional STD causing pathogens.

22:42

New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-july-2014/

22:42

The viruses that make us sick are the failures of the virus world. The virus winners are the ones that create entirely new species.

22:43

you say it as if viruses can think

22:43

You don't need to be able to think in order to fail

22:43

Well, technically they are roughly as living as fire

22:45

Or more virus's have all of the instructions to live, but none of the aparratus to live on their own

22:46

As yet, there is no proper definition of life.

22:47

We consider cells to be alive. We consider multicellular organisims to be alive. They aren't quite alive in the same way that so far eludes a precise definition.

22:47

Which is why insist fire lives, in a minimalist sense

22:48

There was some physicist working on a thermodynamic definition of life.

22:48

Fire probably qualifies, even clouds maybe

22:50

On the other hand... Sometimes I want to restrict my definition of living to things I could, at least in theory, eat.

22:50

lol

22:50

So humans = yes

22:50

dogs = yes

22:50

Rather anthromorphic of you

22:51

You could eat clouds...

22:51

you could also eat fire

22:51

I guess we then have to define eat

22:52

justusranvier: Well, I experience the world as homo sapiens

22:53

The characteristic that sets you apart from the other primates is the ability to derive universal principles and apply them.

22:54

(Or other primate/pig hybrids, if that hypothesis turns out to be true)

22:55

lol

23:05

Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.84679693 BTC. Current weight: 92,773.

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23:23

!up cgcardona

23:23

thank you sir. :-] authing w/ gribble as we speak

23:24

ok done.

23:24

good

23:26

cool

23:28

<ben_vulpes> mthreat: mircea_popescu: has ars customs completely cut amazon off from delivering? << i've not yet tried mail.

23:30

<cazalla> diablo has not looked like that for some time, she got a make over in diablo 3 << sadly.

23:30

<asciilifeform> if easier to find bullet than coin, re-examine engineering priorities in project. <<< ahah the foregoing was worth it.

23:31

<decimation> If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted? <<< i don't think you understand how few people still pay their taxes.

23:31

i don't mean the schmucks that don't make anything.

23:33

justusranvier BingoBoingo re the virus discussion, i suppose you're familiar with the viral theory of the origin of the mitochondria

23:33

mircea_popescu: Indeed

23:33

after all, they are genetically different (and that's why the mother dna is actually more dna than the father's)

23:35

looking at resolved @ bitbet front page

23:35

who figured out betting on 'no' works again?

23:36

Well, I may have to do some remembering... or reading... but it may have been a cellulaur organism rather than a virii that did mitochondrion

23:36

yeah, it may have been

23:37

mitochondria though are the ultimate example though of "If you can, you must" as having mitochondira is so much better than not having them

23:39

yup

23:40

and even all the trouble of getting oxigen to them,

23:40

bloodstream, all the hassle of hemoglobin, the expense of feeces being 80% that

23:40

kidneys, everything's worth it just to make the tiny coal plant go.

23:42

cgcardona: you lived on kauai right?

23:42

I mean organisms without mitochondria still exist, but... at still greater cost in what they are limited to being.

23:42

yea I’ve lived there off and on several times since 2002. why?

23:43

http://i.imgur.com/jO5ngVF.png

23:43

cgcardona: when i get back to the US in 2016, i want to live there for 3-6 months, and i'm curious about housing options

23:43

(^ on considerably less interesting subject than mitochondria)

23:43

asciilifeform lolk

23:43

where are you now? It’s an amazing place to live. kind of expensive but worth the price for what you get

23:43

AMAZING COMPANY!

23:44

of course it’s a small island so you get a little island fever after a while

23:44

thats why my family and i like to do 3-6 months on island at a time

23:44

but that sounds like what you’re planning so you should be good.

23:44

cgcardona: in argentina now... I spent 1 week in kauai before. I'll be taking helicopter lessons with Mauna Lao Helicopters

23:44

oh sweet.

23:45

yeah i’ve yet to take helicopter tour there. I really wanted to this last time but never got around to it and then we ended up leaving early.

23:45

cgcardona: they have schools on Oahu, big island, and kauai, and kauai just seems like the most beautiful of the islands

23:45

without questions. it’s the garden island. and def the bestIMO

23:45

its (dare I say) magical

23:46

⭐️

23:46

what would you estimate a place for a couple would cost per month, with a kitchen for cooking, somewhere not too far from Lihue airport

23:46

⭐️⭐️⭐️☭⭐️⭐️⭐️

23:46

^ if we're abusing unicode...

23:47

asciilifeform: *if* we’re abusing unicode? When aren’t we abusing unicode?

23:47

lol

23:48

mthreat: i was just paying 800 for a studio downstairs apartment but it was a little on the island style side of things so we upgraded to a 2 bedroom for 1500 in downtown kapaa that was baiscally like a vacation rental. very nice and clean

23:48

so about 1500ish for something nice but relatively small.

23:48

ok cool

23:49

New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/that-aint-the-maslow-pyramid-yo/

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