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← 2014-04-26 | 2014-04-28 → ↓
00:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0689898 = 0.138 BTC [-]
00:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00093582 = 25.8754 BTC [-]
00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.04109087 = 0.452 BTC [-] {2}
00:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5196 BTC [-]
00:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.035 = 0.245 BTC [-]
00:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2227 BTC [-]
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-]
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
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01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-]
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02:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
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03:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.00714102 = 0.1428 BTC [-] {2}
03:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
03:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
03:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04031441 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
03:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
03:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
03:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04031441 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
03:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
03:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
03:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0403187 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
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04:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
04:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04037566 = 0.2019 BTC [-]
04:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
04:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2227 BTC [-]
04:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04037566 = 0.1211 BTC [-]
04:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03499 = 0.105 BTC [-]
04:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00093491 = 11.1254 BTC [-] {2}
04:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
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05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12455 @ 0.00094027 = 11.7111 BTC [+] {2}
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05:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06899646 = 0.207 BTC [+] {2}
05:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.0742218 = 0.7422 BTC [-]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.04037566 = 0.4038 BTC [+]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03498998 = 0.3499 BTC [-]
06:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25242 @ 0.00094395 = 23.8272 BTC [+] {2}
06:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03498998 = 0.3149 BTC [-] {3}
06:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.04037555 = 0.3634 BTC [-] {3}
06:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.0742218 = 0.668 BTC [-] {3}
06:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0045501 = 0.455 BTC [+]
06:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00444515 = 0.4623 BTC [-] {4}
06:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03493404 = 0.4192 BTC [-] {4}
06:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.04012307 = 0.4815 BTC [-] {4}
06:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.0742218 = 0.8907 BTC [-] {4}
06:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03492897 = 0.3493 BTC [-] {2}
06:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.04000013 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2}
06:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.0742218 = 0.7422 BTC [-] {2}
06:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03492897 = 0.2445 BTC [-] {2}
06:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.04000011 = 0.28 BTC [-] {2}
06:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5196 BTC [-] {2}
06:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03492897 = 0.1397 BTC [-] {3}
06:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04000002 = 0.16 BTC [-] {3}
06:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-] {3}
06:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03492897 = 0.1397 BTC [-]
06:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
06:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-]
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06:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03491409 = 0.3491 BTC [-]
06:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03493393 = 0.3493 BTC [+]
06:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03493393 = 0.2445 BTC [+]
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08:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19480 @ 0.00094404 = 18.3899 BTC [+] {2}
08:16 kakobrekla gtfo my ops
08:16 Apocalyptic that's so nice of you
08:16 kakobrekla oh sorry i meant good morning
08:17 kakobrekla the keys are right next to eachother
08:21 mircea_popescu hello kakobrekla, raper of assbots, sleeper of long time.
08:22 mircea_popescu !jd mpif
08:22 assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 50.24715198 BTC
08:24 ThickAsThieves and then i get another link removed from my chain for being a gambling bookie
08:34 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/ asciilifeform
08:34 ozbot The complexity of life, a triad pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03543998 = 0.319 BTC [+] {2}
08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03908 = 0.3126 BTC [-]
08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-]
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+] {2}
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.039808 = 0.3981 BTC [+] {3}
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {2}
08:44 Naphex morning
08:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+]
08:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999 = 0.3199 BTC [+]
08:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.0742218 = 0.9649 BTC [-] {2}
08:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999 = 0.3199 BTC [+] {2}
08:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+] {2}
08:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {2}
08:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.039 = 0.117 BTC [-] {2}
08:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03543998 = 0.1063 BTC [+]
08:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03543998 = 0.1772 BTC [+]
08:52 moiety mewning
08:53 mircea_popescu hai
08:53 moiety o its totally aftermewn here, how did that happen
08:53 moiety how are we?
08:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.03792002 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {2}
08:54 mircea_popescu we are happy!
08:54 moiety did you eat?
08:54 mircea_popescu i ate
08:54 moiety :)
08:54 mircea_popescu a manul
08:54 * moiety gasps in horror!
08:55 moiety a moment silence please - manul down!
08:56 moiety is this the root of today's happy? (side note -- i think a manul would taste good, most hard to catch things do)
08:56 mircea_popescu nah, carnivores usually taste awful
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00094338 = 3.0603 BTC [-]
09:02 moiety i should taste quite nice then
09:03 mircea_popescu fluffypony https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmOLwECCcAEgy2X.png:large
09:03 mircea_popescu you come out ahead.
09:03 mircea_popescu moiety do you get enough exercise ?
09:03 mircea_popescu the less you get, the better you taste.
09:04 moiety i am small, i feel like exercise might kill me
09:04 kakobrekla lol
09:04 moiety walking to the kitchen and lifting baking trays is enough
09:05 Naphex http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/kkk-leader-caught-with-a-black-male-prostitute.html
09:05 ozbot KKK Leader Caught With a Black Male Prostitute -- NYMag
09:05 moiety also, sometimes, i am marinated in rose. i think this flavours me
09:07 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlnQsPxCIAAyWUl.png:large
09:07 mircea_popescu #bitcoin-assetsa,
09:08 mircea_popescu #bitcoin-assets, now welcoming for voraphiles
09:09 Naphex :))
09:10 mircea_popescu Sterling once said he did not like to rent to Hispanics because they "smoke, drink and just hang around the building," and that "Black tenants smell and attract vermin."
09:13 mircea_popescu In December 2010, it was revealed that Sterling had been heckling his own players from his courtside seats, specifically focusing on point guard Baron Davis
09:13 mircea_popescu ahaha this guy should have his own show
09:13 fluffypony lol
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09:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03543998 = 0.6379 BTC [-]
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5000001 = 1 BTC [-] {2}
09:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/#comment-99355
09:44 mircea_popescu answer't
09:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.50002 BTC [+]
09:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [-]
09:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.491 = 2.455 BTC [-] {3}
09:57 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-complexity-of-life-a-triad/#comment-99359
09:57 ozbot The complexity of life, a triad pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:05 mircea_popescu answer't again :D
10:05 mircea_popescu meanwhile in #blackhatworld on irc.blackhatworld.com :
10:05 mircea_popescu ghengis_khan> im good at watching porn
10:05 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> how do you know this ?
10:05 mircea_popescu * jing0 has quit (Ping timeout)
10:05 mircea_popescu <ghengis_khan> because ive been doing it for 15 years now
10:05 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> that's no criteria. obama has been trying to be a president for a while, he still sucks at it.
10:06 fluffypony oh bhw
10:06 fluffypony lawl
10:07 fluffypony ok so now I've gone to look at a bunch of pictures of wasps killing spiders
10:07 fluffypony cray cray
10:07 mircea_popescu they're pretty cool imo
10:08 fluffypony yeah very
10:16 mircea_popescu http://bugguide.net/node/view/6763
10:16 ozbot Spider Wasp - Entypus unifasciatus - BugGuide.Net
10:16 mircea_popescu mine was an entypus too, im pretty sure, but not exactly this one.
10:17 fluffypony it's huge
10:17 fluffypony (that's what she said)
10:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i sent a chick your way, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/460424480620552193
10:25 mircea_popescu she's hawt, have fun.
10:30 fluffypony mircea_popescu: who is this minerpart dude on the phorumz? him and jimothy seem to have personal grudges
10:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06754631 = 0.1351 BTC [-] {2}
10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00450175 = 0.1351 BTC [+]
10:31 mircea_popescu i have no idea
10:31 fluffypony this is apparently joke of the week to them: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cei/nicolae-popescu/view
10:32 mircea_popescu people no longer have the common fucking decency to self-identify when they're butthurt
10:32 mircea_popescu "i'm the boyfriend of that chick you picked up at a traffic stop in 2011 ASSHOLE!11"
10:34 mircea_popescu lol fucking spammer mental process. "it's close, only 3 bits of difference!!1"
10:34 fluffypony lol
10:34 mircea_popescu i guess this sort of scum populating the underbelly of the internet that makes up the redditors and wikipedians and bitcoin forum "investors" and quora experts and seo experts and so on and so forth
10:34 mircea_popescu they're the ultimate genetically evolved FPGA
10:35 fluffypony don't forget Yahoo! Answers answer-ers
10:35 mircea_popescu or yahoo business boards.
10:35 mircea_popescu plus livejournal folk
10:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
10:46 ThickAsThieves another popescu and his friends have some new quantum theory on flow of time
10:47 mircea_popescu "A lot more men than women choose to do seemingly irrational things such as become petty criminals, fly homebuilt helicopters, play video games, and keep tropical fish as pets (98 percent of the attendees at the American Cichlid Association convention that I last attended were male). Should we be surprised that it is mostly men who spend 10 years banging their heads against an equation-filled blackboard in hopes of lan
10:47 mircea_popescu ding a $35,000/year post-doc job?"
10:47 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves all counted i would estimate there's between 100k and 500k popescus alive today.
10:47 ThickAsThieves forum will be busy at least
10:47 mircea_popescu Having been both a student and teacher at MIT, my personal explanation for men going into science is the following: young men strive to achieve high status among their peer group ; men tend to lack perspective and are unable to step back and ask the question "is this peer group worth impressing?"
10:48 ThickAsThieves well, what makes an all-male peer group worth impressing?
10:48 ThickAsThieves power?
10:49 ThickAsThieves that theory seems flawed
10:50 mircea_popescu power, if you seek power, money, if you seek money
10:51 mircea_popescu knowledge, social preminence, whatever it is.
10:51 ThickAsThieves purpose
10:51 mircea_popescu that you can't seek.
10:51 mircea_popescu but the entire roman republic, pre empire, can be correctly summarized as a set of benches somewhere, and people vying for position on the best bench.
10:52 mircea_popescu all it was was a hs cafeteria, really.
10:52 mircea_popescu all that followed followed from this simple principle, a hundred men wanted to sort out who sits where in the forum.
10:52 mircea_popescu took seven or so centuries.
10:53 ThickAsThieves meanwhile #b-a is hapening
10:53 mircea_popescu so it is.
10:54 ThickAsThieves so i could live like a king in cape town?
10:54 mircea_popescu apparently 1mn buys you 2k sq feet of premium housing there.
10:56 ThickAsThieves their winter is summer
10:56 ThickAsThieves neat
10:58 ThickAsThieves "Cape Town, has the highest concentration of threatened species of any continental area of equivalent size in the world."
11:00 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: see, all the signs are pointing towards one place
11:00 fluffypony well, one general vicinity
11:02 ThickAsThieves i dunno i think this luxiry property thing i sskewed
11:03 fluffypony well certainly for parts of Cape Town like Camps Bay and Clifton
11:03 fluffypony R10 mil ($1 mil-ish) won't even touch sides there
11:03 fluffypony maybe a very small apartment with limited sea view
11:03 fluffypony and Bishops Court is also crazy expensive
11:04 fluffypony but for the most part R10 mil will get you a pretty huge and elaborate place
11:04 fluffypony with a fantastic view
11:05 fluffypony for eg. http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-houses-flats-for-sale/blouberg/uninterrupted-views/1001118561500910004851009
11:05 fluffypony http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-houses-flats-for-sale/parow/the-bishopscourt-of-the-northern-suburbs/1001121944610910002300409
11:05 ozbot The "Bishopscourt" of the Northern Suburbs | Parow | Gumtree South Africa | 112194461
11:05 fluffypony http://www.gumtree.co.za/a-houses-flats-for-sale/paarl/paarl-an-architectural-tour+de+force/1001121885530910222867109
11:05 ozbot PAARL: AN ARCHITECTURAL TOUR-DE-FORCE | Paarl | Gumtree South Africa | 112188553
11:06 fluffypony those are all $1 mil
11:06 fluffypony and they're all 4-6 bedrooms with views
11:07 fluffypony you can even get a 30 acre farm near Cape Point with cottages and farm house for that
11:07 ThickAsThieves that last one is pretty neat
11:08 ThickAsThieves kinda cramped lookin
11:08 ThickAsThieves but interesting stuff
11:08 fluffypony yeah it's not my sorta style
11:08 fluffypony but still, $1 mil goes a lot further here than the small-ish town my in-laws are in in Germany
11:09 ThickAsThieves it seems not too different than where i am
11:09 ThickAsThieves you can get get a plain new house for like $180k 2000sqft
11:10 ThickAsThieves and then if you have $1m you can look at the nice waterfront stuff
11:10 fluffypony I wonder what criteria they used for that list
11:10 fluffypony like maybe cities of a certain size?
11:10 ThickAsThieves probably which places they sell real estate in ;)
11:10 fluffypony lol
11:12 fluffypony the wife watches this show called Mieten Kaufen Wohnen where Germans go house hunting
11:12 fluffypony every time they have an old retired person who's moving out of Germany they look at houses in Spain or Ibiza or Cape Town
11:12 ThickAsThieves my wife watches some of those US versions
11:13 ThickAsThieves i cant stand them
11:13 fluffypony neither
11:13 fluffypony the first few times I watched it it was interesting
11:13 fluffypony and then I was like "wtf, all they do is look at houses"
11:13 ThickAsThieves and expose the egos of the agents
11:13 ThickAsThieves and make fake situations
11:13 fluffypony lol
11:14 fluffypony if they can engineer some tears they do
11:15 mircea_popescu women stuff. it's incomprehensible, but required for a functioning society.
11:19 Naphex "You try and do your best for women, but they all just run us down. Bitches" ;]
11:21 fluffypony the only exception are the Gazorpian women of Gazorpazorp
11:22 mircea_popescu wait what ?!
11:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0394999 = 0.237 BTC [+]
11:23 fluffypony http://video.adultswim.com/rick-and-morty/raising-gazorpazorp.html
11:23 ozbot Rick and Morty : Raising Gazorpazorp - Adult Swim Gold Episodes
11:24 fluffypony magnet:?xt=urn:btih:34184ef12f89fa7ea9ea453dfae16553d51d82a2&dn=Rick+and+Morty+S01E07+Raising+Gazorpazorp+HDTV+x264&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337
11:24 fluffypony if you'd prefer the torrent
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11:53 ThickAsThieves [11:50] <sipa> in any case, that sort of thing requires.community consensus, not developer attention
11:53 ThickAsThieves [11:50] <sipa> especially not developers for one client that is hardly used by end users
11:53 ThickAsThieves [11:50] <ThickAsThieves> and more likely implemented in Altcoin (ATC)
11:53 ThickAsThieves [11:51] <ThickAsThieves> bitcoin probably approaching the point where "community consensus" = paralyzation
11:53 ThickAsThieves [11:52] <sipa> perhaps, but i don't see what we can do about it
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.70080880 BTC to 7`496 shares, 36030 satoshi per share
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
12:14 fluffypony http://imgur.com/a/PwzZV
12:14 ozbot What can fit inside a C-5 Galaxy? - Imgur
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00094338 = 10.9904 BTC [-]
12:15 fluffypony btw if anyone wants a $125k/year job with the US treasury: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/367808700
12:15 fluffypony must have experience with: Emerging payment systems (example: BITCOIN)
12:17 asciilifeform fluffypony: http://sochi4live.com/images/stories/078i4203.jpg
12:17 asciilifeform russian version.
12:17 fluffypony asciilifeform: that's massive
12:17 asciilifeform 'antonov 225'
12:18 fluffypony I was hoping for a submarine inside it as I was scrolling
12:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0353999 = 0.1416 BTC [-]
12:22 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves what problem is that ?
12:23 mircea_popescu fluffypony i guess after my extradition i can STILL make more than the average forum guy.
12:23 fluffypony lawl
12:23 mircea_popescu so can pirate.
12:24 fluffypony wow, Coinbase has 1.2 million customer wallets, that's a goxing waiting to happen
12:24 mircea_popescu according to whom ?
12:24 fluffypony saw it mentioned on the redditz, but presumably according to them
12:25 mircea_popescu jd has 20mn accounts or something.
12:25 mircea_popescu same process : every noncookied page load gets one.
12:25 asciilifeform so, 'critical mass' of coin opens black hole?
12:25 fluffypony I wouldn't be surprised - every time someone buys BTC through them doesn't it create a wallet?
12:25 fluffypony so they've had 1.2 million people use them, not unsurprising
12:25 mircea_popescu 1,2mn different sessions.
12:25 asciilifeform reminds me of russian madman v. pelevin's story 'Пространство Фридмана' ('Friedman-space.') where somebody tests this hypothesis experimentally.
12:26 mircea_popescu if you run awstats, that's "visits"
12:26 fluffypony mircea_popescu: no you have to create an account to use them, not based on a cookie'd ID
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4885 = 0.977 BTC [-] {2}
12:26 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/awstats-and-stuff/ << trilema had 1.5mn readers q1.
12:26 ozbot Awstats and stuff pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:26 fluffypony I know a bunch of people in the US that think Coinbase is *the* only way to buy Bitcoin
12:26 fluffypony they are going to get burnt
12:26 mircea_popescu and they own 1.5 btc between themselves ?
12:27 fluffypony prolly
12:27 asciilifeform i can confirm. a number of people i know in person seem to use it.
12:28 jurov Bitcoin Bourse welcomes 3100 International Investors and Traders
12:28 asciilifeform tell them about autosnitch, etc. - 'ok, we're condemned, what can we do'
12:28 jurov ^ got this in everyday's spam from lulzbourse
12:29 fluffypony I know some of the OTC/localbitcoins sellers do the sell with GWallet/wire transfer/cash > deposit into bank -> instant buy on CoinBase, rinse/repeat
12:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform how very russian.
12:29 fluffypony till they get screwed by their buy order being cancelled
12:29 asciilifeform these are usians
12:29 asciilifeform folks i work with.
12:29 fluffypony jurov: "investors" and "traders" :-P
12:29 mircea_popescu anyway, going back to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2014#645113
12:29 mircea_popescu there's no argbument that the us-based vc-scammers are very good at what they do : faking numbers.
12:30 asciilifeform but granted, the psychology is very reminiscent of '90s russia, when it had no formal tax code
12:30 mircea_popescu the whatsapp had "users", airbnb is "a success", coindesk is being pumped by gigaom as "relevant" and coindesk has a lot of users and etc.
12:30 asciilifeform everyone made his peace with being a candidate for the wagen
12:30 mircea_popescu nevertheless, none of this matters in any actual sense.
12:31 mircea_popescu i mean i get it, the average us peon thinks oprah is one of the richest people in the history of the world,
12:31 fluffypony mircea_popescu: coinbase yo, coindesk is the news site
12:31 mircea_popescu and obviously the us one of the richest countries.
12:31 mircea_popescu this is fine, but also irrelevant.
12:31 mircea_popescu fluffypony they're only different if you're into splitting hairs. otherwise, same people.
12:31 fluffypony true
12:31 asciilifeform us one of the richest countries << the automobilist term of art is, i believe, 'running on fumes'
12:31 mircea_popescu buncha smartasses went wild coupla years ago, made coin*, base, desk, lab, what have you
12:31 mircea_popescu figured they're me or some shit.
12:32 fluffypony lol asciilifeform
12:32 fluffypony "borrowed time" is also relevant
12:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform depending on what measure of wealth you use. but if you consider % of extant gold shipped to capitol, the us is way behind england, rome and pretty much every empire in between
12:32 mircea_popescu sort-of on par with the bulgarian empire of 900ad
12:33 asciilifeform didn't help... madrid.
12:33 mircea_popescu exactly.
12:34 mircea_popescu they did the same exact mistake, much higher scale : got all the gold, pestered the jews,
12:34 mircea_popescu a century later... gone.
12:34 mircea_popescu there are people you do not mess with, or else your head.
12:35 benkay teh jooz? :P
12:35 mircea_popescu well cca 1500, the jooz.
12:35 mircea_popescu spanish/european jooz were the merchant class pretty much.
12:36 mircea_popescu principally due to the important benefits one derives from... rootless cosmopolitanism,
12:36 mircea_popescu also known as the view that locations have to make you offers, rather than vice-versa.
12:37 mircea_popescu kinda why regressive tax is actually the only way for national/polis stability. it acts as a de facto offer.
12:37 asciilifeform the folks who flock to 'new! legal!' u.s. btc exchanges, remind me of the ones who buy and smoke the 'legal marijuana substitute' stuff
12:38 asciilifeform aka 'bath salt'
12:39 benkay asciilifeform: the synthetic thc stuff is not related to bath salts.
12:39 benkay or 'bath salts'.
12:39 asciilifeform benkay: no actual baths involved. it appears to be the spam brand under which a thousand things are sold.
12:40 asciilifeform and, naturally, the 'legal' crap doesn't contain delta-9 or any other thc, said substance being on the ban list
12:40 benkay the brand i've been made aware of by a friend who once smoked three pots (!) all at once (!) is 'spyce'
12:41 benkay important to note that just because a thing claims to be legal in the states is no guarantee of its legality or quality or anything really.
12:41 benkay some claim it does a half-assed job.
12:41 asciilifeform i must now confess that this is not a subject that i've any serious direct expertise in
12:42 asciilifeform but point being, people who imagine 'hacking the legal system' tend to end up pathetic cases
12:42 asciilifeform like the 'sovereign citizen' crackpots mp had an essay about
12:43 asciilifeform let's sue the kgb, sure. and don't forget to include a 1700s obscure tort case in argument. etc
12:48 mircea_popescu lol
12:48 mircea_popescu did anyone actually sue the kgb in soviet russia ?
12:54 asciilifeform not as such. but the occasional misfit tried to make some sort of legalistic case, to the laughter of the judges.
12:55 asciilifeform in usa, on the other hand!
12:56 benkay get me outtttt
12:56 asciilifeform 'the salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the drowning.' (russian orthodox proverb)
12:57 asciilifeform ('спасение утопающих дело рук самих утопающих')
13:04 benkay what's wrong with y'all today, logs are mad short.
13:05 mircea_popescu i had a something to say
13:05 mircea_popescu but i ated it.
13:05 fluffypony benkay: assbot died
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0345001 = 0.345 BTC [-]
13:05 fluffypony so logs are cut off
13:05 mircea_popescu "all 12 men to have walked on the moon were either eldest or only children"
13:06 benkay fluffypony: y'ain't seen me log out yet, eh? my logs ain't the publogs.
13:07 fluffypony oh true
13:08 fluffypony mircea_popescu: my paternal grandmother is a very traditional, superstitious, short Italian woman (who cooks accordingly). she says my dad was the most successful of her 3 children because "he steal alla of tha calcium from me, he leave none for Daniele and Sonia"
13:08 mircea_popescu ha
13:09 asciilifeform 'successful' -> never needs dental work ?
13:10 fluffypony asciilifeform: successful == hasn't married a drunkard and/or hasn't gone to prison
13:11 ThickAsThieves <hearn> integrated Tor support in bitcoinj - merged! \o/
13:11 asciilifeform lol
13:11 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: ┗(°0°)┛
13:12 mircea_popescu !up Dimsler
13:12 assbot Voicing Dimsler for 30 minutes.
13:12 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot Dimsler
13:12 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Dimsler: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Dimsler | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Dimsler | Rated since: Tue Oct 22 13:51:07 2013
13:13 mircea_popescu Dimsler : anyone in assbot's l1 trust list.
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0345 = 0.1725 BTC [-]
13:14 Dimsler ohhhh
13:14 Dimsler i get it
13:14 benkay fluffypony, ThickAsThieves: is there an emoticon for shooting oneself in the head?
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0340001 = 0.34 BTC [-]
13:15 ThickAsThieves i think so
13:15 fluffypony I guess this one: ︻デ┳═ー (◕_◕)
13:15 mircea_popescu nice fn-fal
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.034 = 0.102 BTC [-]
13:16 fluffypony Belgian ascii art is best ascii art
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 16 @ 0.0394999 = 0.632 BTC [+]
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06858841 = 0.1372 BTC [+] {2}
13:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0395 = 0.316 BTC [+] {2}
13:22 artifexd asciilifeform: What is autosnitch? google fails to find anything relevant.
13:24 asciilifeform artifex: the proverbial 'upload the goods to usg every night' perl script.
13:25 artifexd Is that a real thing or a joke on the nsa watching/logging everything?
13:27 asciilifeform artifex: ask fuhrer, not me
13:28 artifexd Does a gag order require denying such a gag order exists?
13:28 artifexd ^ IRT http://www.zdnet.com/coinbase-denies-hack-gag-order-says-email-address-leak-poses-little-risk-to-customers-7000027945/
13:30 mircea_popescu artifexd it's a real thing. coindesk dumps all its data daily.
13:30 mircea_popescu they're also insecure, and have been hacked repeatedly,
13:30 mircea_popescu meaning any info you upload to them, such as bank acct numbers, id scans, etc, is now held by the usg and by all the hacker groups.
13:30 artifexd What data does coindesk have? Reader's ip addresses? They're a news aggregator.
13:31 mircea_popescu artifexd not coindesk, coinfuck the other one.
13:31 artifexd aok
13:31 mircea_popescu coinbase
13:31 mircea_popescu <artifexd> Does a gag order require denying such a gag order exists? << usually.
13:32 artifexd I always assume that the usg has always-on access to my bank accounts. I guess I should start assuming the same with my coinbase activities.
13:34 jurov http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/technology/start-ups-aim-to-conquer-space-market.html?_r=1 someone wrote about launching rpi to space?
13:34 ozbot Log In - The New York Times
13:34 jurov ^try changing into ?r=0
13:35 artifexd http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/technology/start-ups-aim-to-conquer-space-market.html?_r=0
13:36 jurov continuously updated space junk ftw
13:38 jurov i had an idea (um..okay) of rocket launch that will use energy delivered from groubd via fiber instead of fuel
13:39 asciilifeform jurov: classical idea, 'space elevator'
13:39 asciilifeform problem is materials strength.
13:39 jurov as even hair fiber can carry ridiculous power and shpuld be able to carry 100km of itself
13:40 asciilifeform jurov: calculate what 100km of... anything. weighs
13:40 jurov could not find if anyone tried that
13:40 jurov i did, it was under a kiolgram
13:40 kakobrekla isnt spyder silk closest to that
13:40 asciilifeform other nuances. calculate electric potential difference between top and bottom.
13:41 mircea_popescu ;;calc 10**6 * (10**(-3))**2)
13:41 gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
13:41 mircea_popescu no ?!
13:41 asciilifeform 'my wire is a dielectric', you say, but to what voltage.
13:41 mircea_popescu ;;calc 10**6 * ((10**(-3))**2)
13:41 gribble 1
13:41 fluffypony pankkake kicking ass and taking names on the forum today
13:41 fluffypony I wonder when he'll forgive us and come back
13:41 mircea_popescu that's the volume of 100km of 1mm squared.
13:41 jurov glass fiber short circuit???
13:41 mircea_popescu not THAT bad
13:41 kakobrekla err spiders silk
13:41 ThickAsThieves forgive us?
13:42 asciilifeform then, wind on cross-section of 1km * 0.1mm (or whatever thickness)
13:42 jurov monomode glass fiber has 10um diameter
13:42 fluffypony ThickAsThieves: he's angry that we spoke about altcoins
13:42 fluffypony there was a rage-quit
13:42 mircea_popescu fluffypony maybe he makes his own counterempire.
13:42 mircea_popescu jurov im aware, just making teh point.
13:42 fluffypony lol
13:42 kakobrekla fluffypony what was spoken about alts?
13:42 ThickAsThieves yeah i'm lost
13:43 jurov ;;calc 100000*3.14*(0.00001)^2
13:43 gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
13:43 fluffypony kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2014#644305
13:43 jurov ;;calc 100000*3.14*(0.00001)**2
13:43 gribble 3.14e-05
13:43 jurov that's about the volume of 100km monomode fiber
13:43 fluffypony kakobrekla: the "please…" line was when he rage-quit
13:43 asciilifeform then, pesky problem of thrust.
13:43 ThickAsThieves nah
13:44 ThickAsThieves i doubt he cares THAT much
13:44 asciilifeform (ignoring, for a moment, the purpose of suspending 100km of fiber, sans payload)
13:44 fluffypony asciilifeform: just use the Web of Thrust
13:44 ThickAsThieves plus he was wrong
13:44 jurov i don't want to suspend it
13:44 ThickAsThieves just the notion of wanting altcoins to die at all says more about the notioner
13:44 jurov just use it to deliver large part of energy to blast stuff to orvit
13:44 jurov if not all
13:45 jurov *orbit
13:47 benkay more attainable within our lifetimes, jurov, is the rocket engine that uses ambient oxidizer to mach 5.
13:47 jurov i want someone to explain me what is unattainable here, so far did not find anything.
13:47 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> i doubt he cares THAT much << i can't imagine either.
13:48 mircea_popescu jurov ever calculated the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
13:48 mircea_popescu (if medium goes harmonic)
13:49 benkay ;;google tacoma narrows video
13:49 gribble Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse "Gallopin' Gertie" - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw>; Tacoma Narrows Bridge (1940) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_(1940)>; HowStuffWorks "Understanding: Tacoma Narrows Bridge": <http://science.howstuffworks.com/29833-understanding-tacoma-narrows-bridge-video.htm>
13:49 jurov benkay: it still must carry half of the fuel
13:50 benkay effective iSP is much greater than that of tradiitonal rockets, even exotics like RFNO which have been abandoned due to engineering concerns.
13:50 benkay bonuses in preheating the h2 by cooling incoming air
13:50 jurov mircea_popescu: since the fiber is very light, major factor will be air drag (should be minimal in case first 100km of takeoff is vertical takeoff)
13:51 benkay these things stack.
13:51 jurov and acceleration
13:51 mircea_popescu nono.
13:51 mircea_popescu shear.
13:51 jurov caused by?
13:52 mircea_popescu caused by the medium going harmonic.
13:52 mircea_popescu let me tell you a story from my youth.
13:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48200001 BTC [-]
13:52 mircea_popescu when i was younger i used to fuck this young opera singer chick. she did this trick whereby she'd sing into a glas
13:53 mircea_popescu and the glass popped
13:53 mircea_popescu great ice breaker at parties.
13:54 mircea_popescu at any arbitrary point 100km worth of air can decide to sing traviata into your fiber and there's jack shit you can do about it.
13:55 jurov neds to be simulated/computed. but i hope for such thin fiber, the air is viscouous enough so that it will dampen it
13:55 mircea_popescu so do the math. calculate the the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
13:56 jurov like, you can't play guitar with silk threads
13:56 artifexd Reduce the quality control on the fiber productions in order to introduce random variations in the fiber thickness and thus harmonic frequencies.
13:56 mircea_popescu artifexd this leads you to the problem of the rope. do you know the problem of the rope ?
13:56 artifexd No
13:56 jurov don't forget the length (and harmonic freq) will change dramamtically over time
13:56 mircea_popescu do you know what was the first industrial product, and the one thing that started the industrial revolution ?
13:56 artifexd Rope?
13:57 mircea_popescu jurov that doesn't help you. air isn't my gf.
13:57 mircea_popescu artifexd exactamundo.
13:57 mircea_popescu it works like this : the quality of the rope (ie, its uniformity) establishes the longest length of rope that can be operated credibly
13:57 mircea_popescu as a % chance it breaks.
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06638802 = 0.3319 BTC [-] {3}
13:57 mircea_popescu that longest length of rope valueestablishes the largest ship you can build, i nthe age of sail
13:58 mircea_popescu and since the ships use cannons, the larger ship always wins.
13:58 mircea_popescu and so, for about a century, making better rope was more important for each country than making better ipads is today.
13:58 mircea_popescu the first serious capitalist building was... a rope factory.
13:59 mircea_popescu so no, making it resistent to harmonics by making it shittier just means it'll be shittier.
14:00 artifexd I would think that the minimum diameter (given similar materials) would determine the breaking point, not whether the diameter of this cross section is the same as the cross section 100 ft away.
14:00 mircea_popescu but you need to have it random.
14:00 artifexd Within limits
14:00 asciilifeform the only elevator scheme described to date, afaik, that stands a chance of working, is... 'tower of babel.'
14:00 mircea_popescu otherwise your harmonics problem simply reduces to the new limits
14:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform whic is a cone.
14:01 artifexd Truly random would mean that at some point the diameter would be 0.
14:01 jurov but i insist. make your hair taut
14:01 jurov and try to play it
14:01 artifexd And in others it would be 100km across.
14:01 mircea_popescu jurov arbitrary length.
14:01 mircea_popescu that means i pick the length, not you
14:02 mircea_popescu artifexd that's excessive, but a cone works well to resolve this problem.
14:02 mircea_popescu course, that cone has to have a basis
14:02 jurov yes arbitrary length. i'm gertain you have chick to pull it off.
14:02 asciilifeform (note what shape the world's talles buildings were prior to structural steel.)
14:02 jurov it will *not* oscillate because the air is viscouous and the fiber too light
14:02 mircea_popescu the weight of the fiber doesn't really have much to do with it
14:03 jurov it does. lightweight fiber gets dampened more than heavier rope
14:04 jurov as i computed above, whole fiber will weight only grams.
14:05 jurov you are telling me something that has few grams and 100km will be shaking violently in air?
14:06 asciilifeform let's imagine unbreakable fiber, spherical horse. what's on the other end?
14:06 asciilifeform i.e. how are you to convert the light into usable thrust.
14:07 jurov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam-powered_propulsion
14:07 ozbot Beam-powered propulsion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
14:08 jurov when you use fiber instead of laser, receiver should be much simpler
14:09 jurov and again, i'm not sure the pull stress on fiber will end up so big. fiber is already in use for to communicate with mother ship
14:09 jurov *for missiles
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.03849758 = 0.1925 BTC [-] {4}
14:10 fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/7lioK2H.jpg
14:10 fluffypony ^^ ITT
14:11 punkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_lake
14:11 ozbot Wine lake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
14:13 mircea_popescu jurov the weight has very little to do with oscillation.
14:13 mircea_popescu the only place where it'd matter would be if the part of wire with high mommentum was lighter than the parts surrounding it. this isn't going to happen.
14:14 mircea_popescu missiles are only in air a few seconds.
14:14 mircea_popescu and missiles fail at an impressive rate for "no reason".
14:14 jurov this will be too
14:14 jurov i'm *not* talking about suspended operation
14:15 mircea_popescu well then i don't follow.
14:15 jurov the fiber is just a means to supply energy to the thruster
14:16 jurov after 100km or whatever it will be snapped off
14:16 jurov to save fuel
14:16 mircea_popescu uh
14:16 mircea_popescu you have any idea how slow ion/beam engines move ?
14:16 benkay mircea_popescu: it's for superheating a real ejection mass
14:17 mircea_popescu ...
14:17 jurov maybe it can be done in such way it will have enough velocity to switch to ion
14:17 mircea_popescu is this some sort of insider joke im not privy to ?
14:17 mircea_popescu what the fuck, how many lux are needed to boil a mol of water ?
14:17 jurov but even if it can replace only 30% energy that is otherwise needed to get by burning fuel
14:18 jurov the saving would be disproportionally big
14:18 benkay oh but mp you can do fun things with rectifying the photons and making of the hotness
14:19 mircea_popescu well ok, but still!
14:19 benkay or if you're doing something like a phased microwave array around the planet, coating the bottom of the vehicle with a microwave rectifier
14:19 mircea_popescu eh just make a pokemon drag it.
14:19 benkay madness i tell ya
14:19 mircea_popescu "fairies did it"
14:20 jurov hmm I found 4.0 MW/cm-2 fiber power density
14:21 mircea_popescu well your fiber is mircometer.
14:21 jurov i see, trying to convert properly
14:22 mircea_popescu and that 4mw figure must be some sort of maximal for shorter distances, i can't imagine putting 4mw through 100km of fiber.
14:22 artifexd Last ATC trade was at 224 satoshis. BingoBoingo pushing up the price?
14:22 jurov ;;calc (4e6*1e6*10000)*(0.00001*0.00001)
14:22 gribble Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0382786 = 0.5742 BTC [-] {2}
14:23 mike_c artifexd: nethash is through the roof too. altcoin is just booming in general.
14:24 jurov the result is 4e6 watts? maybe i have an error
14:28 jurov i an't making it in foreseeable time anyway. maybe someone does more thorough calc and writes it up for google to find
14:34 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
14:34 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 441.54, Best ask: 443.71, Bid-ask spread: 2.17000, Last trade: 443.71, 24 hour volume: 7045.95104117, 24 hour low: 439.05, 24 hour high: 469.58, 24 hour vwap: 452.107413733
14:35 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/802/bitcoin-to-drop-under-300-before-june/#b45
14:35 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under $300 before June
14:35 mircea_popescu check out the dice better
14:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 200 @ 0.0008357 = 0.1671 BTC [-] {2}
14:41 ThickAsThieves btw someone here recommend i watch the Black Mirror, turns out I already saw it, and had been trying to remember it for a while cuz i liked episode 2
14:45 benkay Naphex: what's your exchange again?
14:46 benkay nm
14:47 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmP2CYUCAAAgLHr.jpg:large
14:48 Naphex ;o
14:48 Naphex back
14:55 Naphex benkay: it's https://www.btcxchange.ro / why - sup?
14:55 benkay locals are asking about where to trade these days
14:56 Naphex ah
14:56 benkay Naphex: any plans for a gpg auth?
14:57 Naphex yep
14:57 Naphex already started work on implementing gpg otp in the validation server
14:57 benkay lurvely
14:57 Naphex probably in a few weeks, is going to be up
14:57 benkay am i going to have to give you an email as well?
14:58 Naphex yeah - email is bound in. but atleast with gpg auth you get rid of verification emails
14:58 benkay my ideal login flow is to just provide you a key
14:58 Naphex with gpg auth the flow is going to be username/pass -> gpg otp -> logged in
14:59 Naphex as well as gpg otp for withdrawals
14:59 Naphex registration is just username /password /email
14:59 Naphex gpg otp will be set up after in security
15:01 benkay i imagine the u/p requirement is baked in pretty hard by your framework?
15:01 Naphex not really, just in the frontend
15:02 Naphex backend is just uuid / secret + otp choice (default email otp without yubi and soon gpg)
15:02 Naphex but its baked in into frontend so .. :p
15:02 benkay hmmmmmmm.
15:05 decimation why can't you replace the username/password pair with a hash of the public key?
15:07 Naphex you can do it yourself if you set up an api key
15:07 Naphex but the website is meant too ease up stuff for regular folks
15:07 Naphex and some presentation
15:07 Naphex https://api.btcxchange.ro/ - api
15:07 Naphex you set up an API key and you can just use that
15:08 benkay rad
15:09 Naphex withdrawals are blocked from the API atm, so withdrawals only from frontend
15:15 Naphex OHCL-V Ticker Plant and Payments API+Widgets coming soon
15:18 Naphex ohlc even;]
15:20 decimation asciilifeform: yeah the AN-225 is neat but only one built I think. The An-124 is more closely competitive with the C-5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-124 (call these guys if you need one http://www.poletairlines.com/) It would be ideal for porting your submarine from one ocean to another.
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15:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72159 @ 0.00094597 = 68.2602 BTC [+] {4}
15:39 benkay Naphex: but can I do all my API calls encrypted to your pubkey?
15:40 benkay only halfway joking. but srsly, I want an MPEx interface to my exchange.
15:40 mircea_popescu mpex everything!
15:41 jurov benkay if you really do, i'm having a few serious words with you then
15:41 fluffypony mircea_popescu: speaking of, when are we expecting mpif?
15:41 mircea_popescu today ? :D
15:41 fluffypony bitcoinpete: ¡ ola !
15:42 bitcoinpete hey fluffypony
15:42 bitcoinpete i saw that i brought in some new blood yesterday :)
15:43 benkay jurov: all i mean is that i want to interact with anything btc-related with encrypted messages, and ssl does not count.
15:44 fluffypony bitcoinpete: yeah, wd
15:44 jurov oh okay. because i got goosebumps that you want it complete with quoted integers, eventually-consistent statements and whatnot
15:45 jurov oh and i forgot "you know what you did" balance changes
15:48 jurov but since i am not providing api for coinbr, i shall prolly shut up
15:48 mike_c not worth the hassle?
15:48 mircea_popescu this is haet.
15:51 jurov yours truly
15:51 fluffypony jurov: you must fix the copyright at the bottom of the site btw
15:51 fluffypony needs more 2014
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06884761 = 1.377 BTC [+]
15:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06884761 = 0.6885 BTC [+]
15:54 jurov okay
15:54 fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/bFPBAfM.jpg
15:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.06884761 = 7.9175 BTC [+]
16:01 bitcoinpete http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#.U11iG1za78s
16:01 ozbot The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Lets Talk Bitcoin
16:02 bitcoinpete adam levine offered to re-publish my article on ltb's blog
16:02 fluffypony http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/244att/bitcoin_banned_for_alcohol_sales_in_state_of_ohio/
16:03 ozbot Bitcoin Banned for Alcohol Sales in State of Ohio : Bitcoin
16:03 fluffypony On Friday, the Ohio Department of Public Safety ruled that "Bitcoin cannot be accepted as payment for alcohol in the State of Ohio."
16:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18608 @ 0.00094788 = 17.6382 BTC [+]
16:17 bitcoinpete nice fluffypony: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#comment-1358111132
16:18 fluffypony bitcoinpete: yeah that dude's a moron
16:18 bitcoinpete lol
16:19 bitcoinpete it's all about the feelingz
16:19 bitcoinpete just like it's all about the words
16:20 fluffypony yeah
16:20 fluffypony awwww yisss....new vanity address finished
16:20 fluffypony 1spagniPwKD4Zd8rZvPNFenExLTNb7aai
16:20 bitcoinpete sweet
16:21 bitcoinpete i sent levine an address and he posted his own address anyways
16:21 bitcoinpete like, why ask?
16:21 fluffypony lol!
16:21 fluffypony "please tip the author...who wasn't me..."
16:22 bitcoinpete i swear…ish
16:24 kakobrekla yeah jurov why no api
16:24 cazalla bitcoinpete: looks like you might get those ltbcoins afterall
16:25 bitcoinpete cazalla: oh fuck me
16:25 bitcoinpete i'd rather air miles
16:25 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/26/exodus-from-egypt/ <<ThickAsThieves benkay asciilifeform and their asylum
16:25 ozbot Exodus From Egypt | When Bitcoin Met Pete
16:31 fluffypony asseters
16:31 fluffypony lol
16:34 mircea_popescu shouldn't it be assetteers ?
16:35 mircea_popescu maybe our country shall be called Assetteechutts.
16:35 bitcoinpete but there's more than 3 of us
16:35 bitcoinpete or assabynia
16:36 bitcoinpete we're a bunch of molassetters
16:36 bitcoinpete http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/ <<tempting right now
16:36 ozbot BitBet - 1BTC >= $10,000 USD
16:49 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmQG3cbCQAAWCJ8.png:large
16:49 mircea_popescu not a bad visual, seeing how little reddit comprehends of numbers
16:54 benkay i've always used assettes
16:54 fluffypony wow Yahoo's actually marginally profitable still
16:55 fluffypony when you look at that visual MS and Apple are the kings in terms of turning a profit, Google to a lesser degree
16:56 benkay bitcoinpete u gon make me cry b
16:57 bitcoinpete benkay: let them out, it's part of the healing process
16:58 dub benkay: you should fix you comments section
16:59 mircea_popescu fluffypony incredible huh
17:00 fluffypony mircea_popescu: yeah it puts stuff into perspective
17:02 mircea_popescu http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2014/02/internet_troll_personality_study_machiavellianism_narcissism_psychopathy.html
17:02 ozbot Internet troll personality study: Machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy, sadism.
17:02 mircea_popescu notice that it's published by the... climate desk.
17:02 mircea_popescu ever since the 90s, various pompous idiots du jour have been rehashing thins nonsense about "how bad trolls are".
17:03 mircea_popescu an exact mirroring of the infinite hitpoints problem : society strictly exists because of the trolls.
17:03 mircea_popescu nevertheless, there's an infinite supply of pompous idiots, and an infinite supply of fecal "consensus" these shitheads readily adhere to.
17:04 mircea_popescu so please, everyone with half a brain cell : if you've not trolled someone this week, do so.
17:04 mircea_popescu preferably someone with a large ideological support structure : a feminist, a race warrior, something.
17:04 mircea_popescu anti-inequality folks work too.
17:05 fluffypony I've been trolling bitcointalk hard, does that count?
17:05 mircea_popescu sure.
17:06 dub tbh by looking at bitcointalk you are being trolled so, no
17:07 mircea_popescu it doesn't really matter if he
17:07 mircea_popescu s winning or losing
17:07 mircea_popescu just as long as he's not "sharing" or w/e bullshit the bovines engage in.
17:10 dub i'd suggest by his handle that he'll never get to play ata ll
17:16 dub how did gypsycon go anyway?
17:17 mircea_popescu what's wrong with his handle ?!
17:17 mircea_popescu http://www.msfraud.org/ny-judge-in-largest-bankruptcy-case-in-history-receives-irs-&-sec-whistleblower-filing_4-14.html
17:17 ozbot NY Judge in Largest Bankruptcy Case in History Receives IRS & SEC
17:18 dub nothing at all, throwin up brony gang signs is perfectly normal, like an anime forum avatar
17:19 mircea_popescu so guy's looking like a brony. you figure that hurts ?
17:20 dub it doesnt hurt me but it puts him in the same bucket as ukyo
17:20 mircea_popescu was Ukyo's wife blonde ?
17:21 dub i didnt think it was legal for a 13 y/o tp marry in texas
17:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06767001 = 0.1353 BTC [-] {2}
17:23 mircea_popescu well so then, http://trilema.com/2014/fuck-me-fuck-you/
17:23 mircea_popescu different buckets.
17:24 mircea_popescu !up bawse
17:24 assbot Voicing bawse for 30 minutes.
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0349999 = 0.35 BTC [+]
17:25 dub a) the gender of that thing is unclear b) looks like a shitty 'your message here' generator things
17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0349999 = 0.35 BTC [+]
17:26 fluffypony dub: normal res - http://i.imgur.com/yOY2zMO.jpg
17:27 dub that is shopped I can tell by the pixels and etcetc
17:27 mircea_popescu dub, is that urmom ?
17:28 mircea_popescu and besides, women have dogchins all the time. doesn't mean they're trannies.
17:29 dub true and not much room for dick in dem pants
17:29 dub I thought of you while in cambodia mp
17:30 dub interesting study of the nigger dilemna there, a generation ago all the smart people were removed
17:30 mircea_popescu how come ?
17:30 dub well pol pot
17:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [+]
17:31 dub khmer rouge etc, but they were subjugated long before that and still are
17:32 mircea_popescu ah.
17:32 mircea_popescu yea.
17:34 dub they just don't seem to have any means to improve, under the 'murica way type bullshit sentiment capitalism relies on
17:34 mircea_popescu so what do they do
17:34 dub they slave
17:35 mircea_popescu cool.
17:35 mircea_popescu i really have no fucking sympathy for peoples that failed to protect their elites.
17:35 mircea_popescu they should slave. forever.
17:37 dub one of my guides was a teenage guy with some english, works 7 days a week for a french operated tour for 5 months to pay for 1 month of 1 hour a day of schooling
17:37 mircea_popescu cool kid. so did you take him out ?
17:37 dub thats almost all of the kids
17:37 mircea_popescu so pick one.
17:38 dub thats not how it is supposed to work
17:38 dub he's supposed to be able to get out right?
17:38 mircea_popescu nope.
17:38 mircea_popescu not on his own.
17:39 dub his parents survived meaning they farm rice
17:39 dub probably only enough to sustain their 9 kids
17:39 mircea_popescu well yeah.
17:39 mircea_popescu his parents failed to die fighting pol pot to protect the cool people of cambodia
17:39 mircea_popescu which means their kid now has to depend on random people's charity.
17:40 mircea_popescu sucks for him, too, seeing how the random people in a position to be charitable are trained not to be.
17:40 dub they probably fought for pol pot, it was a chinese backed communist coup
17:40 mircea_popescu so then the kid definitely should not be able to get out.
17:41 dub (which the UN and international community continued to back 20 years after the genocide)
17:41 mircea_popescu which is why rather than paying tax you'd be better off picking kids off the street in cambodia
17:42 dub its not a solution
17:48 dub the majority of his peers have inhereted their parents placitude meaning he's isolated, he can't build useful networks or get much help from anyone
17:50 dub they also suffer the usual religious crippling with extra helpings of ancient superstition
17:51 dub and now their former overlords (frenchies) or western capitalists own all the means of production and basically work the native population to death
17:53 mircea_popescu you keep being fixated on this self-made thing.
17:53 mircea_popescu that works in a different sort of society, one that's not made out of fuckwits.
17:53 mircea_popescu in this kids' case, he'll have to find a master. a good one.
17:54 dub the kid was not exceptional
17:54 mircea_popescu so ?
17:55 bitcoinpete http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-charity/
17:55 ozbot Some basic discussion of charity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:55 benkay dub: what comments section, yo?
17:55 dub so, any auxillary factor or guradian angel bullshit aside, they are fucked
17:57 dub benkay: ur blawg, i gave you my blog commenting virginity and you snubbed me
17:57 benkay comments work, just email it in
17:57 benkay what is my email broken too?
17:57 dub clearly in several ways
17:58 dub it didnt accept smtp at first so I used some remailer
18:00 benkay what are you going on about
18:00 benkay benkay@gmail.com
18:00 dub mp: point is the 'any man can claw his way north' politics that lets most people sleep an night is clearly bunk here
18:02 benkay nobody's clawing their way north, speshully in teh us
18:03 dub yes google don't grok smtp
18:03 dub checed spam maybe? I don't care enough to reauthor
18:04 dub it was about why +m is retarded
18:04 benkay encrypted tends to make it through uninterdicted
18:04 benkay yup right there in spam
18:05 dub one way to filter comment spam I guess
18:09 mircea_popescu dub claw his way north, aye, but not as far as he feels like.
18:09 mircea_popescu as far as he can.
18:10 mircea_popescu !up SatoshiJack
18:10 assbot Voicing SatoshiJack for 30 minutes.
18:10 mircea_popescu dub you can dump why +m is retarded right here lol
18:10 SatoshiJack Hey thanks MP.
18:10 dub I couldnt at the time :)
18:10 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo there ?
18:11 mircea_popescu so no longer retarded ?
18:12 dub he'll post it, tl;dr its a dumb way to fix spam but a coll experiment in circle jerks
18:12 dub cool*
18:14 fluffypony I don't think the issue is spam
18:15 dub initially was iirc?
18:15 ThickAsThieves not sure how to prove it, but it does seem we've had more frequent and better new users show up
18:15 mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/?mpsic=F.MPIF <<
18:15 ozbot F.MPIF last @0.00000000
18:16 mircea_popescu pls to check it out, ima sign it if nobody finds typos.
18:16 mircea_popescu dub it's not really intended to fight spam. it's intended to foster good quality circle jerking.
18:16 mircea_popescu the sort that then stomps on the balls of everyone else and sends them to work in the mines of cambodia
18:17 mircea_popescu i swear, twitter has got the art and science of making it look like shit happened when nothing occured down to a fine point.
18:17 dub ThickAsThieves: indistinguishable from removing the casual derptroll imo
18:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0349998 = 0.455 BTC [-]
18:17 fluffypony dub: not so
18:18 mircea_popescu it's like... "198470598094385 updates!!11" then you look... three people favourited five things.
18:18 dub ThickAsThieves: which is easily achieved with ops
18:18 fluffypony people hang around and first figure out "ohey I can't talk"
18:18 fluffypony then they figure out why
18:18 fluffypony then they watch for a bit
18:18 fluffypony then eventually they talk
18:18 mircea_popescu dub the impersonality of it is quite important. people are otherwise too inclined to figure " ican't talk because x is mean"
18:18 mircea_popescu rather than "well... guess what... i suck"
18:18 fluffypony instead of the normal join -> derp -> "hey here's a link to my IPO for AwesomeCasino 3.9"
18:21 jurov assbot is mean!
18:21 fluffypony meanness level = so ?
18:24 mircea_popescu According to court documents, the second amended Joint Chapter 11 Plan, approved on December 13, 2013 allows for the liquidation of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of homeowners’ mortgages to legendary business billionaire magnate—the fourth richest man in the world, according to Forbes, Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, Inc. and Ocwen Loan Servicing, L.L.C.
18:24 mircea_popescu The bankruptcy terms allows Berkshire Hathaway and Ocwen to purchase over $400 billion worth of mortgages and RMBS trusts for less than $5 billion. Once these mortgages are sold, Berkshire Hathaway and Ocwen will be bankruptcy remote. That means that once the mortgage assets are sold to them, American homeowners, like Morse, will not be able to obtain, through discovery, in judicial proceedings, the documents pertainin
18:24 mircea_popescu g to their mortgages to determine if there is an issue with their property’s chain of title or verify if there is a free, clear and legally traceable ownership of their homes.
18:24 mircea_popescu In effect, mortgage records of millions of American homeowners would be destroyed.
18:24 mircea_popescu this entire fannie and freddie saga is becoming gnarlier each year.
18:27 benkay !up Mats_cd03
18:27 assbot Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.
18:27 dub im in a channel where everyone is usually oped, has a similar effect on SNR, people assume no bullshit will fly
18:27 Mats_cd03 sankq
18:27 mircea_popescu what channel is that ?
18:27 dub in fact, in ~15 years a cant recal seeing anyone kicked
18:28 Mats_cd03 was looking at craigslist today... http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/roo/4430556569.html
18:28 Mats_cd03 ^_^
18:29 fluffypony mircea_popescu: 2.2 (c) - one year should be hyphenated
18:29 fluffypony Mats_cd03: you should take that offer, sounds great and not rapey
18:29 dub its on a network with no services and most of the people have 1 or 2 degrees RL separation, all net eng types
18:30 mircea_popescu dub so 20 people and 500 lines a week ?
18:31 Mats_cd03 ya dude hes straight im good
18:31 dub bigger than that, used to regularly produce more content than here
18:31 mircea_popescu i doubt that.
18:31 mircea_popescu #freenode doesn't produce more crap than here.
18:31 dub lol
18:32 mircea_popescu anyway. this thing is freely and amply advertised. your shyness in naming the other clearly makes the point :
18:32 mircea_popescu they're not the same.
18:33 mircea_popescu ;;ud snr
18:33 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snr | SNR. Stoke to Nut Ratio. How many strokes it takes one to ejaculate. Don Juan: Hey I just beat my SNR record; I just hit 36! (Dirty Six) Nigga: Cool Story Bro, ...
18:33 ozbot Urban Dictionary: snr
18:33 mircea_popescu oic.
18:34 mircea_popescu !up bawse
18:34 assbot Voicing bawse for 30 minutes.
18:35 fluffypony mircea_popescu: otherwise it looks all good
18:35 mircea_popescu im not hyphenating any one years, what is this, britain ?
18:36 mircea_popescu http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/24/cops-found-nothing-in-raid-so-they-planted-drugs-to-frame-innocent-woman/
18:36 ozbot Lawsuit: Cops found nothing in raid, so they PLANTED DRUGS to frame innocent woman | The Daily Calle
18:37 fluffypony mircea_popescu: pfffft, then you should go and change authorised to authorized :-P
18:37 Mats_cd03 http://vixandmore.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-correction-as-seen-in-etp-landscape.html
18:37 ozbot VIX and More: The Correction As Seen in the ETP Landscape
18:37 mircea_popescu fluffypony :p
18:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 227 @ 0.00445268 = 1.0108 BTC [+] {2}
18:39 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmOjk6VCEAEBBvq.jpg
18:39 mircea_popescu iceland electricity is moar eco friendly than your electricity
18:40 fluffypony such design
18:40 Mats_cd03 http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/04/25/a_breakdown_of_chinas_new_social_classes
18:40 ozbot China's New Class Hierarchy: A Guide
18:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03400064 = 0.34 BTC [-]
18:52 * jurov 's on 53% nuclear, 13% renewable
18:52 mircea_popescu !up Ken`
18:52 assbot Voicing Ken` for 30 minutes.
18:53 Ken` :)
18:54 mircea_popescu so who're you ?
18:55 bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/JuicyGrabs/status/460533893473796096 <<via danielpbarron
18:55 ozbot Twitter / JuicyGrabs: @danielpbarron What? Haha. ...
18:55 fluffypony Bed time, cheers
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0349998 = 0.245 BTC [+]
18:59 Ken` mircea_popescu: I trade options (US stock market) and bitcoin
18:59 mircea_popescu that'd be what.
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0349999 = 0.245 BTC [+]
19:00 mircea_popescu http://juicygrabs.blogspot.com < nice blog.
19:01 Ken` looks like a copy of zerohedge at first glance
19:01 bitcoinpete it's quite primarily colourful
19:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0409999 = 0.451 BTC [+]
19:05 bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/27/philanthropy-not-power/
19:05 ozbot “Philanthropy.” Not Power. | When Bitcoin Met Pete
19:05 bitcoinpete and with that, i be off to dinner. cheers.
19:08 ThickAsThieves <+Mats_cd03> was looking at craigslist today... http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/roo/4430556569.html /// lol I lived in new bedford
19:08 ThickAsThieves cant quite suss what that guy is up to
19:09 ThickAsThieves just a man wanting to live in a world where his dick can bulge free?
19:10 ThickAsThieves looks like an atc rally today
19:10 ThickAsThieves ATC @ 0.00000230 BTC
19:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
19:14 ThickAsThieves "as much as 69 percent of extra virgin olive oil in the US is substandard"
19:15 mircea_popescu i can attest to this
19:15 mircea_popescu a pain to get decent olive oil
19:16 mike_c "The named individual is in fact at the time of this agreement the sole proprietor and operator of both named corporations,"
19:16 mike_c sounds odd when disucussing pif
19:16 mircea_popescu h,
19:16 mircea_popescu hm
19:17 mircea_popescu yeah maybe not the best wording. still, i am controlling both things, and so forth.
19:18 mike_c yes, just made me scratch my head for a second, and scroll back up to see if pif was a corporation.
19:18 mircea_popescu well what else.
19:18 mircea_popescu hedge funds are in fact corporations.
19:19 kakobrekla llcs :)
19:19 mike_c idk. 'sole proprietor' and 'public corporation' are mutually exclusive, no?
19:21 mircea_popescu where does it say "public corporation" ?
19:21 mike_c sole proprietor means you get all the money.
19:21 mike_c it does not say public corporation. but you are issuing shares.
19:21 mircea_popescu but issuing shares after the agreemnet.
19:21 kakobrekla where is that from anyway?
19:21 mircea_popescu kakobrekla teh f.mpif
19:22 kakobrekla i dont see the contract up?
19:22 mircea_popescu but it is.
19:22 mike_c http://mpex.co/?mpsic=F.MPIF
19:22 ozbot F.MPIF last @0.00000000
19:22 kakobrekla ah
19:22 kakobrekla im blind
19:22 mircea_popescu as well as large.
19:23 mike_c perhaps "The named individual is in fact at the time of this agreement the sole proprietor of MPIF and the operator of MPEx, and they were represented..."
19:23 mike_c but, other than that nitpick the contract read fine to me.
19:25 mircea_popescu yeah, it's misstated but i can't see what exactly it'd impact
19:31 benkay dub i pub'd your comment
19:31 benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html
19:31 mircea_popescu the irony here being that his comment about moderation ended up in spam
19:32 benkay encrypt or die
19:32 benkay a few suggestions on +m:
19:32 benkay - auto up.
19:32 benkay (if auth'd)
19:32 benkay - some mechanism for new blood to signal they'd like voice
19:33 mircea_popescu benkay do i have to install some sort of special software to see these comments ?
19:33 mircea_popescu benkay why should they signal ? if anyone sees some interesting looking new people they can voice them.
19:33 benkay they're hidden.
19:33 mircea_popescu it's a pull not a push
19:34 kakobrekla i can see the comment
19:34 benkay so that when i'm on a roaming connection i can get everyone's attention for the !up at once lol
19:35 kakobrekla no css will get you that
19:36 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/7DGR6Fc.jpg
19:36 mircea_popescu !up Lee-
19:36 assbot Voicing Lee- for 30 minutes.
19:36 mircea_popescu !up mircea_popescu
19:36 assbot Really, mircea_popescu?
19:36 mircea_popescu sucks that got fixed ;/
19:36 kakobrekla benkay bouncer
19:37 benkay got one kako
19:37 benkay dun always take keys into hostile turf tho
19:38 kakobrekla but you could code your bnc to accept some disposable sekrit to !up you remotley
19:38 benkay some days i'm just hopping onto an available web client and don't feel like iterating through the list of people i know in the chan manually to get upped
19:39 Duffer1 if anyone needs ups i'm usually lurking pm me
19:39 benkay that's...
19:39 benkay that erodes even more of IRC's vaunted flexibility, kakobrekla .
19:39 dub yep, I was in singapore airport yesterday tried to get someones attention in here, no dice
19:40 dub fuck if Im taking keys to somewhere my bank balance alone is more than 1000 people earn in their lifetime
19:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 149 @ 0.00755 = 1.125 BTC [-] {4}
19:42 benkay dub dear could i beg a favor
19:42 benkay wouldja be so kind as to clearsign that comment?
19:43 dub its kinda a pita but ok
19:44 benkay nm then
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.00755 = 0.3775 BTC [-]
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0345 = 0.1035 BTC [+] {2}
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
19:46 dub gribble needs that widget
19:46 benkay which widget?
19:47 Duffer1 "To be an investor you simply need to invest money. There is no minimum or qualifications like you imagine." - Jimmothy
19:47 dub well no, but a gribble signed pastebin oslt
19:47 Duffer1 is there bitcointalk !bash?
19:49 mircea_popescu i wonder if we could have !atc
19:49 mircea_popescu Duffer1 yes. bitcointalk.
19:50 mike_c mod6 made a bot that lives in #altcoin. does a lot of cool atc stats.
19:51 Duffer1 god why do i find that depressing
19:51 mircea_popescu mod6 add it ?
19:51 dub Duffer1: don't read anything else that mouthbreather fingerfarts then he's 100$ retarded
19:52 Duffer1 %?
19:52 benkay a hundred dollars retarded!
19:52 dub no $
19:52 danielpbarron hah, finally caught up with reading the scroll back; time for dinner :Q
19:52 benkay ;;ud fingerfart
19:52 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Finger%20Fart | "Mom, the teacher said I made too many finger farts on my research paper". by The Bandit Donny August 23, 2008. 8 5. Mugs & shirts Buy “Finger Fart” mugs & ...
19:52 ozbot Urban Dictionary: Finger Fart
19:55 dub newfags? http://www.copypasta.info/2010/02/100-serious.html
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03450458 = 0.1035 BTC [-] {2}
19:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.03400009 = 0.782 BTC [-] {5}
20:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00095537 = 5.3501 BTC [+]
20:06 mod6 ahh, yeah made that bot that does atc stats. want me to add it in here mp?
20:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
20:07 mircea_popescu "Congrats to talented and beautiful @LaurenMBias for her award from @NYULYP for commitment to community, philanthropy and entrepreneurism."
20:07 dub hmm the farm I buy my olive oil from has been for sale for a while, IPO?
20:07 mircea_popescu ima get a fucking aneurism.
20:07 mircea_popescu mod6 please
20:08 mircea_popescu "All but one of the individual winners of Pulitzer Prizes in journalism this year were male." << this is particularly funny in romanian
20:09 mircea_popescu ;;ud puli
20:09 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Puli | A massive chav; someone with no class. Often fond of wearing tracksuits, caps and gold chains.
20:09 ozbot Urban Dictionary: Puli
20:09 mircea_popescu ;;ud pula
20:09 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pula | pula. the Romanian word for dick/cock. Imi bag pula-n mãta. Esti o pulã bleagã. Sugi pula la ... "Mooom, would you give me 5 pula i wanna buy a condom". "Look  ...
20:09 ozbot Urban Dictionary: pula
20:09 mircea_popescu well puli is teh plural.
20:10 mod6 Ok, will do. It has the ability to broadcast x-bt atc/btc trades as well, its not turned on by default.
20:10 mod6 Let me know if you'd like that as well.
20:10 mircea_popescu that may be a little much
20:11 mod6 agreed.
20:11 mircea_popescu maybe have it print the day's average once a day ?
20:11 mod6 it has a !ticker command. that should suffice.
20:11 mircea_popescu can it do that ? like 23 @ 0.03400009 = 0.782 BTC {144} sort of thing
20:11 kakobrekla on demand is fine really
20:11 mircea_popescu or that yes. better.
20:11 mod6 *nod*
20:11 mod6 one moment
20:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00095704 = 1.8184 BTC [+]
20:13 mod6 !up BitOTTer839
20:13 assbot Voicing BitOTTer839 for 30 minutes.
20:13 mircea_popescu !ticker
20:13 assbot Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?
20:13 BitOTTer839 [X-BT] Bid: 0.00000200 Ask: 0.00000240 Last Price: 0.00000230 24h Vol: 880876.00000000 High: 0.00000230 Low: 0.00000150 VWAP: 0.00000192
20:13 mircea_popescu lol
20:13 mircea_popescu needs a diff control sequence huh
20:13 kakobrekla change the prefix or command
20:13 mod6 ok, give me a minute. i'll change it to like '%' or something
20:14 mircea_popescu ~ ?
20:14 kakobrekla !! ?
20:14 mircea_popescu !!ticker
20:14 mircea_popescu doesn't that bother assbot ?
20:14 kakobrekla i wouldnt think so, but whatever.
20:14 mircea_popescu mod6 also, make it short. ~t
20:14 kakobrekla you can do 8====D if you want
20:15 mod6 lol
20:15 kakobrekla and 8=D for short tiny one.
20:15 mod6 ok mp, i'll add another short code for it.
20:15 mod6 haha
20:15 mircea_popescu so this makes how many bots, 7 ?
20:15 mod6 so '%' ok then? i don't want to interfere with assbot
20:16 kakobrekla 4 ?
20:16 mircea_popescu !up pankkake
20:16 assbot Voicing pankkake for 30 minutes.
20:16 BingoBoingo artifexd: I'll decline to comment on what I may or may not be doing to ATC prices
20:16 kakobrekla ass gribs ozzy and now bitotter
20:16 mircea_popescu mpexbot
20:16 kakobrekla ugly name btw!
20:16 mircea_popescu there's the scammer hunter bot
20:17 kakobrekla right that thing.
20:17 mircea_popescu that's 6. was another too
20:17 mircea_popescu !up pizzaman1338
20:17 assbot Voicing pizzaman1338 for 30 minutes.
20:17 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot pizzaman1338
20:17 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user pizzaman1338: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=pizzaman1338 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pizzaman1338 | Rated since: never
20:17 mircea_popescu meh.
20:17 mircea_popescu ;;rate pizzaman1338 1 New blood.
20:17 gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
20:17 kakobrekla its 1337 in the wot
20:17 pankkake isn't it 1337?
20:17 mircea_popescu it is ?
20:18 mircea_popescu ;;rate pizzaman1337
20:18 gribble (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.
20:18 kakobrekla you also rated him already
20:18 mircea_popescu a ok.
20:18 * mircea_popescu reaches for his lechitin
20:18 pankkake came to say reading http://www.reddit.com/user/JuicyGrabs has been my dirty pleasure
20:18 mircea_popescu pankkake did you ragequit earlier ?
20:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00095704 = 25.4573 BTC [+]
20:19 pankkake I am a ragequitter at heart
20:19 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
20:19 dub french after all
20:19 pankkake anyway
20:19 pankkake yeah, perhaps
20:19 mircea_popescu dude i never made someone ragequit before.
20:19 mircea_popescu and i thought you werre supposed to be like a pro troll or some shit anyway
20:19 thestringpuller https://www.startup.sx/ << has this been discussed?
20:19 mircea_popescu kakobrekla crypton is also a bot.
20:20 kakobrekla what for
20:20 pankkake I'm a cocotte minute
20:20 mircea_popescu thestringpuller this'd better be about sex.
20:20 mircea_popescu "A Regulated Global Marketplace for Startup Investing and Funding"
20:20 mircea_popescu meh
20:22 mod6 !up BitOTTer872
20:22 assbot Voicing BitOTTer872 for 30 minutes.
20:22 mod6 %t
20:22 BitOTTer872 [X-BT] Bid: 0.00000200 Ask: 0.00000240 Last Price: 0.00000230 24h Vol: 880876.00000000 High: 0.00000230 Low: 0.00000150 VWAP: 0.00000192
20:22 mod6 %help
20:22 BitOTTer872 %t | %ticker | %book | %diff | %tx <tx_id> | %bal <ATC Address> | %atc_mined | %block <block_height> | %last_block | %cm_rate | %ptp_rate
20:23 mircea_popescu thestringpuller no about page other than a desk.com account, and a bunch of spinoff websites (http://curacao.sgggroup.com/en/dutch-carribbean-securities-exchange ) etc.
20:24 mircea_popescu quite snugly fit on the scam stock exchange mo. bitcoin as a bonus i guess.
20:24 mircea_popescu %book
20:24 BitOTTer872 [X-BT] ASK: 70000.00000000 ATC @ 0.00000248 BTC
20:24 BitOTTer872 [X-BT] ASK: 10000.00000000 ATC @ 0.00000245 BTC
20:24 BitOTTer872 [X-BT] ASK: 65000.00000000 ATC @ 0.00000240 BTC
20:24 BitOTTer872 [X-BT] BID: 99000.00000000 ATC @ 0.00000200 BTC
20:24 BitOTTer872 [X-BT] BID: 100000.00000000 ATC @ 0.00000170 BTC
20:24 BitOTTer872 [X-BT] BID: 75000.00000000 ATC @ 0.00000160 BTC
20:24 mircea_popescu mod6 srsly needs to put it all on one line
20:25 mircea_popescu preferably 70k@248 10k@245 65k@240 | 99k @200 100k @170 etc
20:25 mod6 ok. ill work on that a bit. that's probably the most verbose one. all the others are one line iirc.
20:25 mod6 give me a few here...
20:25 mircea_popescu no big rush
20:25 BingoBoingo %mined
20:26 BingoBoingo %atc_mined
20:26 BitOTTer872 [ATC Mined] ATC Mined (to date): 15500800 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 5.77
20:26 pankkake %tslb
20:27 mod6 %last_block
20:27 BitOTTer872 [ATC Last Block] Height: 30276 Time: 2014-04-27T23:21:28Z Vout Sum: 1024 Number TXs: 2 Difficulty: 455357.12903751 Hash: 00000000000003dd8261d1ee537732c6b0434f21e16cf0cf31d40d032ebd7559 Fee: 0.00000000 Size: 779 Days Destroyed: 704 Confirmations: 1
20:27 kakobrekla did you register his nick?
20:27 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: like how they say it's "regulated"
20:27 kakobrekla er, its nick
20:27 mircea_popescu mod6 %lb ?
20:28 mircea_popescu thestringpuller "Kapil Bhatia Kapil Bhatia is in the digital banking industry in Qatar. " << that happens to be a common name and also the name of some indian billionaire.
20:28 kakobrekla i can add him to cs if the nick is reg
20:28 mod6 kako: no not yet.
20:28 mod6 (i mean, i haven't regiestered it yet)
20:28 mircea_popescu the guy they depict however is none of those, and moreover the only reference yo ucan find to "SSX Advisors Corp" is on their own websites.
20:29 mod6 It has a random 1-1000 number on the end, I can make it just 'BitOTTer' though.
20:29 kakobrekla is that free even
20:29 kakobrekla and whats with the capital 'OTT'
20:29 kakobrekla i dun get it
20:29 mod6 ok, lemme hack in a few changes. i'll leave this one connected for the time being.
20:30 mod6 it's all part of the tools "Bitcoin Options Trade Tool" package/suite
20:30 kakobrekla ah i thought it was 'Over The Top'
20:30 mod6 haha, it might be.
20:31 kakobrekla if its atc specific you might call it something related to taht
20:32 dub scambot
20:32 pankkake buttbott
20:32 pankkake but I like scambot
20:32 mircea_popescu thestringpuller on the other hand, their domain whois claims it was reg'd by Brian Niessen, who is an actual somebody.
20:33 kakobrekla scambot you say? might as well just call it max keiser then
20:34 peterl mircea_popescu: looking at mpif contract, "The General Manager may also destroy Fund shares the Fund holds at any point", does the manager take out btc, or do the shares just get destroyed?
20:34 mod6 lol
20:34 mod6 i'll call it 'atcbot' that would make the most sense.
20:34 mircea_popescu Registrant Name: Brian Niessen Registrant Organization: SSX Holdings CorpRegistrant Street: PO Box PW 5334 Registrant Street: Babrow Building Registrant City: The Valley Registrant Country: ANGUILLA
20:34 kakobrekla call it atcmax
20:34 mircea_popescu peterl if the fund owns them, they can just get destroyed
20:35 peterl aha, misread, missed the "the fund holds", nevermind
20:35 mircea_popescu yeah the venue is basically if pc5 ends up with too many shares
20:37 mircea_popescu thestringpuller anyway, i dropped them a tweet, maybe they show up and impress.
20:39 mircea_popescu "It's lame in a way you are more concerned about privacy of your "bank account" than creating and promoting growth and fostering a close tight knit community. It's more important to you your MSC stake or "bank account" stays private than fostering closer tie with the community who allowed you to have this "bank account" in the first place."
20:40 thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/E5rZVJU.png - winter in romania
20:40 mircea_popescu pankkake ok the guy's kinda amusing. almost livejournal level
20:40 BingoBoingo .d
20:40 ozbot 6.979 billion | Next Diff in 309 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.0921% in 1d 19h 34m 31s
20:41 mircea_popescu thestringpuller http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/a-nins-3.jpg
20:42 thestringpuller lol is she peeing?
20:43 mircea_popescu yea
20:43 thestringpuller unabashful
20:43 mircea_popescu me 1 imgur 0. yay.
20:50 mod6 is this acceptable?
20:50 mod6 (17:50) < atcbot> 70000@0.00000248 10000@0.00000245 65000@0.00000240 | 99000@0.00000200 100000@0.00000170 75000@0.00000160
20:51 kakobrekla seems fine to me
20:52 mod6 ok, thx.
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 981 @ 0.00095537 = 0.9372 BTC [-]
20:55 mircea_popescu nice.
20:56 mod6 !up atcbot
20:56 assbot Voicing atcbot for 30 minutes.
20:56 mod6 ty :)
20:56 mod6 %t
20:56 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 0.00000200 Ask: 0.00000240 Last Price: 0.00000230 24h Vol: 880876.00000000 High: 0.00000230 Low: 0.00000150 VWAP: 0.00000192
20:56 mod6 %book
20:56 atcbot 70000@0.00000248 10000@0.00000245 65000@0.00000240 | 99000@0.00000200 100000@0.00000170 75000@0.00000160
20:57 mircea_popescu mod6 srsly tho, try cutting the 3 0s in the first term to k
20:57 mircea_popescu and express as satoshi rather than bitcoin
20:59 thestringpuller oh shit game of thrones
21:00 pankkake mod6: I just stopped my trades bot, so you can display yours. the only thing I found missing was aligning at the @
21:01 pankkake s/display/enable/
21:01 mod6 ok. not a big deal, need a bit more time for that mp.
21:01 mod6 pankkake: ok yeah, i didn't bother trying to align yet. if you want me to, I can change it over to doing the trades in #altcoin.
21:02 mod6 hang on a sec. I'll do that first.
21:03 pankkake standard string formatting stuff usually can do it easily
21:05 kakobrekla standards ewwww.
21:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00095706 = 14.5473 BTC [+] {3}
21:15 kakobrekla ping me when you register the thing
21:15 pankkake http://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop
21:15 ozbot Novena | Crowd Supply
21:25 mod6 pankkake: you should start your bot back up. mine has a bug somewhere, gotta debug it. haven't flexed that part of the code much yet.
21:25 mod6 I'll work on that too. But meanwhile... ok?
21:25 pankkake done, I'll stop it when you want
21:26 mod6 much appreciated, pankkake
21:26 mod6 !up atcbot
21:26 assbot Voicing atcbot for 30 minutes.
21:26 mod6 %book
21:26 atcbot 70k@248 10k@245 65k@240 | 99k@200 100k@170 75k@160
21:26 mod6 %t
21:26 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 200 Ask: 240 Last Price: 230 24h-Vol: 871k High: 230 Low: 150 VWAP: 193
21:28 mike_c such volume.
21:32 BingoBoingo %tslb
21:34 mod6 it doesn't do that yet BB, best we can do now is %last_block
21:34 atcbot [ATC Last Block] Height: 30279 Time: 2014-04-28T01:28:39Z Vout Sum: 512 Number TXs: 1 Difficulty: 455357.12903751 Hash: 0000000000000ba03eceaee28a05554dec1cac0f6e924e0b3d3dd2632abdabb0 Fee: 0.00000000 Size: 552 Days Destroyed: 0 Confirmations: 1
21:35 kakobrekla hm
21:35 kakobrekla confirmations 1 ?
21:36 mod6 *shrug* it's in the JSON: http://atc.blockr.io/api/v1/block/info/last
21:37 mod6 pankkake: so not sure why it died there. it didn't get back a null result, or it would have spit out an error, but whatever it was, wasn't valid JSON. needs some debugging in there.
21:37 mod6 I'll work on that. Thanks for starting yours back up.
21:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 890 @ 0.0001261 = 0.1122 BTC [-]
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8085 @ 0.00012525 = 1.0126 BTC [-] {5}
21:43 thestringpuller ;;google Mojo Jojo
21:43 gribble Mojo Jojo - Powerpuff Girls Wiki: <http://powerpuff.wikia.com/wiki/Mojo_Jojo>; List of The Powerpuff Girls characters - Wikipedia, the free ...: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Powerpuff_Girls_characters>; Cartoon Network-Mojo Jojo is on Who Wants To Be A Millionare ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfQIwIy7_bU>
21:48 decimation The liberal always discovers too late that the price of equality is the omnipotent state.
21:48 decimation http://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2010/09/1828.html
21:48 ozbot Don Colacho’s Aphorisms: #1,828
21:49 decimation stupid chat client: Without a hierarchical structure it is not possible to transform freedom from a fable into a fact. The liberal always discovers too late that the price of equality is the omnipotent state.
21:50 decimation asciilifeform: I assume you are an emacs fan; what IRC client do you like? I'm trying to follow the path to becoming a competent emacs/lisp user
21:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00464805 = 0.3718 BTC [-]
21:57 mod6 ok bare with me a moment, gonna see if I can get this thing registered with nickserv & have it identify on_connect
21:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00095832 = 3.8333 BTC [+]
22:08 decimation I've played with zenirc and ERC
22:09 mod6 ok here goes..
22:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16482 @ 0.00095537 = 15.7464 BTC [-]
22:15 mod6 !up atcbot
22:15 assbot Voicing atcbot for 30 minutes.
22:18 mod6 kakobrekla: ok it's registered with nickserv.
22:19 mod6 I was like wtf about the block conf's too, but blockr.io show's 'em for btc blocks too.
22:20 kakobrekla !down atcbot
22:20 mod6 ninja
22:20 kakobrekla should work
22:22 mod6 the bot is a work in progress, let me know if stuff needs to get added/subtracted/modified and I'll work on it.
22:23 mod6 obv tslb is desired, that'll be near the top BingoBoingo
22:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.49804584 = 1.4941 BTC [+] {2}
22:30 BingoBoingo %t
22:30 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 131 Ask: 150 Last Price: 150 24h-Vol: 1345k High: 230 Low: 150 VWAP: 183
22:30 BingoBoingo %book
22:30 atcbot 100k@175 45k@169 25k@150 | 250k@131 170k@121 4k@111
22:31 mod6 heh 1345k
22:32 mod6 (17:27) <+mircea_popescu> mod6 %lb ? << i'll make this change too, i'll change the commands so their much shorter.
22:32 BingoBoingo It's something
22:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00095832 = 22.233 BTC [+]
22:37 mod6 shorter command names on next restart/connect
22:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00095508 = 0.191 BTC [-] {2}
22:40 ThickAsThieves is it public knowledge how much ATC MPIF is working with?
22:41 BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: It will be when the first public statement is revealed.
22:42 BingoBoingo Otherwise you can parse the logs for references to amounts and get a rough idea of the size it started at.
22:43 ThickAsThieves and the first public report comes with the first ability to but shares?
22:43 ThickAsThieves buy*
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00456 = 0.1368 BTC [-]
22:44 BingoBoingo It should.
22:48 ThickAsThieves "New Vulnerability Found in Every Single Version of Internet Explorer"
22:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00095931 = 16.5001 BTC [+] {2}
22:51 mod6 haha
22:51 mod6 now there's a shocker
22:55 BingoBoingo http://mashable.com/2014/04/26/big-data-pregnancy/
22:55 ozbot How One Woman Hid Her Pregnancy From Big Data
23:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49964657 BTC [+]
23:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49970747 = 0.9994 BTC [+] {2}
23:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
~ 19 minutes ~
23:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0344999 = 0.276 BTC [+]
23:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00095502 = 8.5474 BTC [-]
23:33 BingoBoingo %book
23:33 atcbot 10k@245 65k@240 2k@200 | 100k@150 6k@135 100k@134
23:39 artifexd That's pretty
23:39 artifexd mod6: wd
23:42 BingoBoingo http://oglaf.com/imposture/
23:42 ozbot Imposture
23:45 mod6 thx artifexd :)
23:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00095337 = 24.2156 BTC [-] {2}
23:52 artifexd BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/dq8y6Ps.jpg <- made me think of you
23:53 BingoBoingo artifexd: Thank you.
23:54 BingoBoingo My favorite part is that with two pieces of wire and a soldering iron you could convert the dopamine to methamphetamine
23:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00095543 = 29.5228 BTC [+]
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