00:00 |
decimation |
my point: his job is exactly to find the one-off's and worry about their retention. What possible "systematic approach" exists, even in theory? |
00:05 |
MisterE |
that the order certifying the class? |
00:08 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform kernel-in-rom never caught on because these fuckwits want to keep versioning everything all the time. gotta upgrade!!1 |
00:08 |
asciilifeform |
lul |
00:09 |
asciilifeform |
upgrade all day - just turn the key. |
00:09 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves well he's mastered them so... |
00:09 |
asciilifeform |
anyone else notice how you more or less can't buy antifuse roms any more? |
00:10 |
asciilifeform |
just flash that programmatically refuses (or promises to refuse) writing a second time |
00:12 |
dignork |
asciilifeform, there are OTP chips, you're saying they can be rewritten? |
00:12 |
mircea_popescu |
dude what's with all this derpage. avatrade ? future of crypto trading ? what the hell. |
00:12 |
asciilifeform |
dignork: i can't promise to re-write one on demand - but they're 'flash' inside. |
00:13 |
asciilifeform |
dignork: notice that the same part number typically comes in a UV window version. |
00:13 |
asciilifeform |
now go and try to buy a 1980s style antifuse ROM that actually burns |
00:13 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. fuses blow when you write it. |
00:14 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell decimation the following systematic approach : "you will be born anyway, need to work anyway. why should you be paid ?" |
00:14 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
00:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00094424 = 10.3866 BTC [-] |
00:16 |
mircea_popescu |
oh look, another blockchain crawler : https://coinb.in/ |
00:18 |
dignork |
asciilifeform, I never actually looked into these chips, but wikipedia says empty PROM is filled with 1's, and you're irreversibly burning 0's |
00:19 |
asciilifeform |
yes |
00:19 |
dignork |
asciilifeform, so later you can burn some more 0'... |
00:19 |
asciilifeform |
now try to buy one. |
00:19 |
mircea_popescu |
dignork it'd be an extremely rare case where that actually works tho |
00:19 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, this reminds me of a scheme i came up with for re-writing 'cd-r' disks, before the rewritable kind was available |
00:20 |
asciilifeform |
using 'gray code'. alert reader can probably figure out how it worked. |
00:20 |
asciilifeform |
how many 'brain cycles' we've all wasted on obsolete tech! |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"I stumbled upon this brilliant piece of journalism written by one Mircea Popescu. The title of the article reads Why Dogecoin is a scam
and the contents are amusing." |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
at least we're using the brain cycles on things that actually exist. |
00:21 |
mircea_popescu |
how many brain cycles have various anon derps wasted on rehashing their imaginary worlds ? |
00:22 |
asciilifeform |
the folks who understand their worlds being imaginary, i've no problem with. |
00:23 |
dignork |
asciilifeform, well, I have this http://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/2.4GHz-RF/nRF24LE1-OTP on hand, but I don't have equipment to actually look at the chip structure though :( |
00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
well the others you really can't have a problem with. because who'd you have a problem with ? they're not here. |
00:23 |
mircea_popescu |
o look at that, fico lost! |
00:24 |
dignork |
asciilifeform, it's a complex device containing OTP, so not a strict match |
00:26 |
Apocalyptic |
yeah mircea_popescu, i'm so happy |
00:28 |
mircea_popescu |
Apocalyptic hm ? |
00:28 |
Apocalyptic |
fico is the last thing slovakia needs right now |
00:29 |
mircea_popescu |
a a |
00:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00094694 = 17.8972 BTC [+] |
00:41 |
tg2 |
It's there any traction to have the irs change their stance on btc? |
00:41 |
tg2 |
They basically made it a paperwork disaster to actually tax it |
00:42 |
chetty |
get the IRS to change? you ARE joking? |
00:43 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5937860#msg5937860 and another layer of scammyness unfolds. |
00:43 |
ozbot |
[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings |
00:44 |
mircea_popescu |
so apparently lmb gifted itself a hefty 28% equity stake post-ipo ? |
00:47 |
tg2 |
Well who votes on tax rates |
00:47 |
tg2 |
Not the irs |
00:47 |
tg2 |
Ergo they should be susceptible to change |
00:47 |
chetty |
no one votes on IRS rules |
00:47 |
tg2 |
The irs only collects |
00:48 |
MisterE |
no they made powerful administrative rules too |
00:48 |
tg2 |
Voted on by... ? |
00:48 |
tg2 |
C ca |
00:48 |
tg2 |
There should be an avenue to have those rules revised |
00:48 |
chetty |
rules and regulations ... no one votes |
00:49 |
MisterE |
they have an internal committee of bureaucrats probably |
00:49 |
MisterE |
might take public comment |
00:49 |
Apocalyptic |
this jimmothy guy is halirious |
00:49 |
Apocalyptic |
*hilarious |
00:49 |
Apocalyptic |
damn i need to sleep |
00:49 |
mircea_popescu |
so go sleep |
00:50 |
mircea_popescu |
it ain't going anywhere. |
00:54 |
tg2 |
They have their irc code |
00:55 |
tg2 |
Federal court ruling sits higher than agency interpretive regulations |
00:56 |
nubbins` |
jimmothy |
00:56 |
nubbins` |
pretty sure he's a paid shill for whoever has a buck |
00:56 |
tg2 |
And IRS Revenue Rulings, which I would assume the btc guidance fell under |
00:56 |
MisterE |
yea but challenging those regulations is not possible for mere mortals |
00:57 |
nubbins` |
also, neobee: lel |
00:57 |
MisterE |
heh yea |
00:57 |
tg2 |
one might assume that those remain attainable for somebody |
00:57 |
tg2 |
If there was a landmark supreme court case |
00:58 |
Apocalyptic |
too bad TAT is mixed up in this |
00:58 |
tg2 |
It feels like the irs just said "here's our stance" and left the door open to an overriding ruling from a larger authority |
00:59 |
nubbins` |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2014&bots=true#485655 |
00:59 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
00:59 |
nubbins` |
such lels |
00:59 |
nubbins` |
Apocalyptic: might as well read the whole day |
01:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
<mircea_popescu> so apparently lmb gifted itself a hefty 28% equity stake post-ipo /// To my knowledge LMB never gifted itself anything nor moved shares to Havelock |
01:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
there was a portion seperately allocated for employee program of some sort I think, not tradable |
01:02 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves well, here's the problem : |
01:02 |
mircea_popescu |
Public investors currently hold 5,042,638 LMB Holdings shares (31.5164875% of the profits), whilst LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK) shall hold 10,957,362 shares 68.4835125% of the profits), for a total of 16,000,000 LMB Holdings virtual shares, which represent 100% of the global profits of the LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK). |
01:02 |
mircea_popescu |
this is an update of the previous version, which read : |
01:02 |
mircea_popescu |
Public investors will hold 9,600,000 LMB Holdings shares (60% of the profits), whilst LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK) shall hold 6,400,000 shares (40% of the profits), for a total of 16,000,000 LMB Holdings virtual shares, which represent 100% of the global profits of the LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK). |
01:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
basically the unsold shares sat unsold afaik |
01:02 |
mircea_popescu |
the net effect of this change is for lmb to gift itself a significant portion of the equity. |
01:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
only the 31% wouldve been eligible for the initial divs |
01:03 |
mircea_popescu |
the figures seem to be 68.4x% and 40%. |
01:03 |
nubbins` |
but that's 28.x% for free |
01:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.65252998 = 1.9576 BTC [+] {2} |
01:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess this is why no gpg contract = scam, pretty much. |
01:04 |
mircea_popescu |
as far as i know every pdf-ipo to date has done this sort of thing |
01:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04539999 = 0.1816 BTC [+] |
01:05 |
tg2 |
Unfortunately there is no reprimand even declaring profitability |
01:05 |
Apocalyptic |
nubbins`, thanks for the link, i'm reading |
01:05 |
mircea_popescu |
tg2 that didn't parse. |
01:05 |
nubbins` |
^ |
01:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65253014 BTC [+] |
01:05 |
tg2 |
S/reprimand/consequence |
01:06 |
tg2 |
Falsely declaring profitability |
01:06 |
tg2 |
Who is keeping the company truthful about their earnings |
01:06 |
tg2 |
ie rent |
01:06 |
mod6 |
|
01:07 |
mod6 |
oops |
01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a major problem, generally speaking. |
01:07 |
nubbins` |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2014&bots=true#456142 |
01:07 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
01:08 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` myeah. |
01:08 |
tg2 |
I have a model which would be great for this kind of transparency |
01:08 |
nubbins` |
on the bright side, a bunch of people in cyprus got several months worth of salary that they wouldn't have had otherwise |
01:08 |
nubbins` |
so there's that |
01:09 |
nubbins` |
practically a success |
01:09 |
xdotcomm_ |
tg2: what model? |
01:09 |
tg2 |
Marketplace |
01:09 |
xdotcomm_ |
like ebay |
01:09 |
tg2 |
No, a good one |
01:09 |
xdotcomm_ |
or like nyse |
01:10 |
tg2 |
Marketplace for anything |
01:10 |
xdotcomm_ |
elaborate please |
01:10 |
xdotcomm_ |
like craigslist? |
01:10 |
tg2 |
Like a decentralized craigslist |
01:11 |
xdotcomm_ |
problem with craigslist is there is no rankings |
01:11 |
tg2 |
Yeah |
01:11 |
nubbins` |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2014&bots=true#485755 |
01:11 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
01:11 |
nubbins` |
just pasting things here |
01:11 |
tg2 |
That and their code is from 1999 |
01:11 |
nubbins` |
no big deal |
01:11 |
nubbins` |
xdotcomm_, tg2: those are problems? |
01:12 |
tg2 |
Can be, yes |
01:13 |
xdotcomm_ |
its tough because you gotta make it so much better then craigslist + ebay ... otherwise no go.. they already have the masses |
01:13 |
nubbins` |
#bitcoin-assets: where $150m/y is a problem |
01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
"The trading is simply frozen; unless they tore down the building and sold the rubble Im pretty sure that NEO's offices will be open come Monday." |
01:13 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, the theory is that these people bought an office building too ?! |
01:14 |
tg2 |
Kijiji shits on craigslist |
01:14 |
mircea_popescu |
!t h neobee |
01:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00155000 / 0.0024427 / 0.00327700 (113780 shares, 277.92986804 BTC), 30D: 0.00155000 / 0.00351926 / 0.00567777 (493675 shares, 1737.37018237 BTC) |
01:14 |
xdotcomm_ |
5 to 10x better for early adapters and 10 to 20 for the masses |
01:15 |
xdotcomm_ |
tg2: kijji > craigslist thats y in Canada its #1 |
01:18 |
tg2 |
Eventually it'll take over in the us |
01:18 |
xdotcomm_ |
they will never end http://digitalinterface.blogspot.ca/2014/03/strangecoin-proposal-for-nonlinear.html |
01:18 |
tg2 |
Ebay owns it |
01:18 |
xdotcomm_ |
yea |
01:27 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
.d |
01:27 |
ozbot |
5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1149 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.7374% in 6d 19h 11m 34s |
01:28 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
alright I've asked this before, but I got disconnected. Why does gribble have such a lower prediction for next difficulty compared to bitcoinwisdom. Is one sampling way more or way less blocks than the other? |
01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
TestingUnoDosTre perhaps check the log ? |
01:29 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
ahhh yes. There was some lag inbetween when I was checking it and disconnected |
01:29 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
now it should be good |
01:30 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
scratch that, it looks like no one answered |
01:31 |
nubbins` |
no, i remember someone answering |
01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
what, you get different logs where you live ? |
01:32 |
Apocalyptic |
depends if kako has edited it or not I guess |
01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2014#592194 |
01:32 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
01:32 |
nubbins` |
kako, editor of logs |
01:33 |
|
I'm glad we pay these people: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/getcovered/10.gif |
01:33 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5978604#msg5978604 check out this epic shit. apparently i'm a bad person because i don't suck now. |
01:33 |
ozbot |
[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings |
01:34 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
ahhh thank you |
01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
[\\\] da fuck is that supposed to be |
01:34 |
nubbins` |
heheh |
01:34 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
it says bitcoinwisdom uses a mix of 2016 long term linear and 504 short term linear to estimate |
01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
this andy greenberg imbecile is really getting my goat. |
01:35 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
at least that's what one redditor claimed |
01:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00094615 = 7.5692 BTC [-] |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
poor finley already said he's not it. actually, what he said was, "i could claim it and go to my grave a celebrated inventor. it'd be sweet. however... i did not do it, sadly. stop hounding me." |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
what does forshitbes do ? hounds him. |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
journos belong in penal colonies, |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
and i'm not even tyrant yet./ |
01:37 |
|
woah |
01:38 |
|
so I'm late to the party |
01:38 |
|
NeoBee has pulled a runner? |
01:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] |
01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
[\\\] well they're having a great weekend so far. |
01:40 |
|
and isn't NeoBee the guys helping 'fix' bitfunder/weex? |
01:40 |
|
aren't* |
01:40 |
dexX7 |
"Danny doesn't need to talk directly to shareholders and customers." ... wow, reaching that point was faster then i expected (i didn't at all) |
01:41 |
mircea_popescu |
[\\\] they were the guys that spoke out of turn on the topic and then never brought it up again. |
01:41 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 you just think so because you're a one man band that never leaves his appartment. |
01:41 |
mircea_popescu |
if you were rich and successful you'd see. |
01:43 |
nubbins` |
someone should just IPO a series of magazine ads and six months salary and get it over with |
01:43 |
|
lol |
01:44 |
nubbins` |
give up the facade |
01:44 |
|
brilliant idea |
01:44 |
nubbins` |
just found a wart on my finger. turns out it's dough. |
01:44 |
* |
nubbins` fist-pumps |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` in point of case, it's a major improvement over the previous stuff |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
which did google ads at best. |
01:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] |
01:45 |
bocobit |
hows it going guys |
01:45 |
bocobit |
i've got a question |
01:45 |
Duffer1 |
ni hao |
01:45 |
bocobit |
why doesn't Andreas Antnonopoulos have a wiki? |
01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps he didn't install one ? |
01:46 |
Duffer1 |
he's a speaker |
01:46 |
dignork |
bocobit, he wrote a book instead :) |
01:47 |
bocobit |
I'm just trying to find out some info on him like where he's from/ past work ect. |
01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
bocobit why not just ask him ? |
01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
has a twitter or an email or something im sure ? |
01:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63174527 = 1.2635 BTC [-] {2} |
01:47 |
nubbins` |
3:17am, nice |
01:47 |
nubbins` |
i mean |
01:47 |
nubbins` |
nite |
01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
nn |
01:47 |
nubbins` |
(not nice) |
01:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Nighty Nubbins |
01:48 |
mircea_popescu |
stop deing bifficult. |
01:48 |
nubbins` |
NOODGIGHT |
01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
"Some men enjoy dancing with other men without their tops on while others prefer the company of a woman two KFC family buckets away from upsetting the planet's rotational axis." |
01:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this dude can lay down the webhurt lawl. |
01:50 |
dexX7 |
hm? what would i see, if i were rich and successful? |
01:50 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 how would i know ? |
01:51 |
mircea_popescu |
(i'm just being very sarcastic because that thread's too funny to do anything else) |
01:51 |
|
neo pr was active for a week after their last post |
01:51 |
andyfletcher |
dexX7, you would have to tell us which direction you were looking |
01:52 |
dexX7 |
hehe k |
01:52 |
mircea_popescu |
but generally speaking, you would be seeing cleavage. |
01:53 |
andyfletcher |
assuming the lights are on |
01:54 |
tg2 |
Pleural form of cleavage |
01:54 |
mircea_popescu |
i think if you're rich and successful one of the perks is that you can see cleavage even through the dark. |
01:54 |
mircea_popescu |
or clothes. |
01:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;ticker |
01:56 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 476.06, Best ask: 479.14, Bid-ask spread: 3.08000, Last trade: 479.43, 24 hour volume: 10237.77098943, 24 hour low: 473.67, 24 hour high: 506.41, 24 hour vwap: 492.153544837 |
01:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.05566386 = 0.4453 BTC [-] {5} |
01:56 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought there was supposed to be super-duper heavy support at 500 |
01:56 |
mircea_popescu |
what scam is this! |
01:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
enky says 430 or thereabouts |
01:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm inclined to agree |
01:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00012 = 0.36 BTC [-] {4} |
02:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2600 @ 0.00012001 = 0.312 BTC [+] {2} |
02:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0454 = 0.1362 BTC [+] |
02:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0458 = 0.229 BTC [+] |
02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
"Nearly 1,900 Veterans Committed Suicide In Just 2014 Alone" |
02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess the bankers aren't suddenly all that exceptional. |
02:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0459 = 0.2295 BTC [+] |
02:08 |
andyfletcher |
wonder how many died on deployment in the same period |
02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
http://icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx |
02:09 |
ozbot |
iCasualties | Operation Enduring Freedom | Afghanistan |
02:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00586892 = 0.4695 BTC [-] {4} |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
02:30 |
benkay |
hey! |
02:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62500105 = 1.25 BTC [-] {2} |
02:31 |
benkay |
i'm not dead yet, despite your best efforts |
02:31 |
benkay |
although all of my calories are ethanol derived |
02:31 |
benkay |
someone told me this is unhealthy |
02:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.62044563 = 6.8249 BTC [-] {7} |
02:33 |
benkay |
!l m s.mpoe |
02:33 |
assbot |
Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00094615 BTC [-] |
02:33 |
benkay |
!l h rent |
02:33 |
assbot |
Last trade for RENT on HAVELOCK was at 0.0073 BTC [+] |
02:33 |
benkay |
the next rent round is almost not bullshit, youse guise? |
02:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-] |
02:35 |
benkay |
;;later tell tg2 llolzlzolozlzolzolol self-stopping doors |
02:35 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
02:38 |
tg2 |
Later while online thxm8 |
02:39 |
benkay |
u think i ams no tab compl? |
02:39 |
benkay |
the tg2 operators nevar sleep |
02:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 543 @ 0.00616386 = 3.347 BTC [-] {10} |
02:40 |
benkay |
moiety: you have great taste in chain |
02:41 |
tg2 |
benkay your segway doesn't even have doors how would you understand this market |
02:42 |
benkay |
segue? |
02:42 |
benkay |
to something interdasting i hope |
02:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.61125954 = 6.7239 BTC [-] {3} |
02:45 |
xdotcomm_ |
benkay: i saw portlandia today ... is it based on your personality? |
02:45 |
benkay |
oh, both socks at once? |
02:45 |
benkay |
guys u gotta do betta |
02:46 |
tg2 |
how hard we gotta sock |
02:46 |
tg2 |
last time a sock gave you this much pleasure it ended up stuck to the laundry hamper |
02:47 |
benkay |
brilli-allent |
02:47 |
tg2 |
> concept of friendship foreign, must be socks |
02:48 |
tg2 |
;;ident benkay |
02:48 |
gribble |
Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@216-161-94-151.ptld.qwest.net', is not identified. |
02:48 |
tg2 |
gpg up noob |
02:48 |
benkay |
if only you got to do that |
02:49 |
tg2 |
if only we ate our own dogfood |
02:49 |
mircea_popescu |
tg2 soo, you two are friends ? |
02:49 |
tg2 |
which two?! |
02:49 |
benkay |
tg2 and xdotcomm_ , sitting in a tree |
02:49 |
tg2 |
xdotcomm_ is my deputy sock obv |
02:50 |
benkay |
(f.e.l.l.a.t.i.n.g.) |
02:51 |
benkay |
anyways, upstairs sez beers. |
02:51 |
benkay |
night, gents. |
02:51 |
xdotcomm_ |
mircea_popescu: we have known each other... but none of us has helped one another move |
02:51 |
tg2 |
lol |
02:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05719913 = 0.2288 BTC [+] {2} |
02:51 |
mircea_popescu |
xdotcomm_ lol i c |
02:51 |
xdotcomm_ |
in north america you can only be friends if you move couches for each other during moves |
02:51 |
tg2 |
we are the best of business friends but the worst of IRL friends |
02:52 |
tg2 |
this guy sold me a broken gong |
02:52 |
xdotcomm_ |
99% online relationship |
02:52 |
mircea_popescu |
o i thought "help each other move" is when you seduce the other's wife and so now he has to find a motel. |
02:52 |
tg2 |
and then never even gave it to me |
02:52 |
xdotcomm_ |
tg2: sold a server as well then stole it back |
02:52 |
tg2 |
;;rate xdotcomm_ -10 sold me a broken gong and then never even gave it to me |
02:52 |
gribble |
Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users. |
02:52 |
xdotcomm_ |
ive been trying to pay back for years for that |
02:52 |
tg2 |
sells me a server "sick deal bro, dual quad core xeon 32G ram" |
02:53 |
xdotcomm_ |
SSD! |
02:53 |
tg2 |
wake up the next day |
02:53 |
tg2 |
car windows smashed in |
02:53 |
tg2 |
server no longer there |
02:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0463 = 0.1389 BTC [+] |
02:53 |
tg2 |
i'm gonna reck ur otc rating when I get one |
02:54 |
xdotcomm_ |
i need to get the weight of unfairness shifted somehow |
02:54 |
xdotcomm_ |
been trying hard |
02:54 |
xdotcomm_ |
for party bring magnum vodka bottle... |
02:54 |
tg2 |
who's gonna administer the bet on bitbet about how long until one of us gets rating |
02:54 |
xdotcomm_ |
we can cheat and sell cheap btc |
02:54 |
xdotcomm_ |
@ loss |
02:55 |
tg2 |
solid biz plan |
02:55 |
xdotcomm_ |
get best strippers for the party |
02:55 |
xdotcomm_ |
i try hard |
02:55 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
rate xdotcomm 2 . comment this guy has no clue how much tell sell btc for |
02:55 |
tg2 |
lol |
02:56 |
xdotcomm_ |
for realz |
02:56 |
tg2 |
for real tho he called the doge spike about 2 hours before it climed from 54 to 290 |
02:56 |
tg2 |
made me lots of btc's |
02:56 |
tg2 |
off of scrubcoins |
02:56 |
xdotcomm_ |
it was a savant moment |
02:57 |
tg2 |
now its going back there |
02:57 |
tg2 |
lol |
02:57 |
xdotcomm_ |
i can just give access to my tranny paysite to everyone in this chan.. probably get mad ratings |
02:57 |
xdotcomm_ |
exclusive tranny contents |
02:57 |
tg2 |
mpex crashes, havelock closes |
02:57 |
tg2 |
ghost chan |
03:02 |
tg2 |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/foodbeast/taco-bell-president-says_b_5045279.html |
03:02 |
ozbot |
Taco Bell President Says Canada Will Get Breakfast 'When You Take Justin Bieber Back' | Foodbeast |
03:05 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
can't stop salivating when I see the price lately |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
03:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00094607 = 5.0142 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
03:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00094607 = 16.5562 BTC [-] |
03:48 |
bounce |
asciilifeform: point was rather that the acorn archimedes is closer to a modern computer than an 80s micro. |
03:49 |
bounce |
bit like stuffing qnx+photon in flashrom. might even be doable if you can find coreboot-supported hardware. |
03:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.069897 = 0.1398 BTC [-] |
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~ 24 minutes ~ |
04:15 |
MisterE |
http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/28/5557120/what-if-oculus-rift-kickstarter-backers-had-gotten-equity |
04:15 |
ozbot |
If you back a Kickstarter project that sells for $2 billion, do you deserve to get rich? | The Verge |
04:26 |
GreenBits |
hi all |
04:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8483 @ 0.00094545 = 8.0203 BTC [-] |
04:35 |
chetty |
Greetins GreenBits |
04:37 |
moiety |
http://rt.com/news/vader-presidential-hopeful-ukraine-885/ |
04:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00620002 = 0.31 BTC [-] |
04:45 |
MisterE |
heh, I got a little nervous nelly today, thought we were going to test 400, so I sold some coin for 484 that I bought at 505 :/ |
04:46 |
MisterE |
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game/comments?cursor=6299270#comment-6299269 |
04:46 |
ozbot |
Oculus Rift: Step Into the Game by Oculus » Comments — Kickstarter |
04:46 |
MisterE |
^ Says it better than I could |
04:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64989888 BTC [+] |
05:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.64952249 = 2.5981 BTC [-] {4} |
05:03 |
cazalla |
why sell MisterE |
05:03 |
cazalla |
just keep stackin' |
05:11 |
punkman1 |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511457.0 |
05:11 |
ozbot |
[ANN][KAR] KARPELESCOIN | OPEN POOL REGISTRATION | LAUNCH Mar 30 12:00 PM |
05:11 |
punkman1 |
hah 3KARPE1ESwHERE1SoUrMoNEYxxxx8dXeC5 |
05:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.653 BTC [+] |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
05:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00094609 = 9.0825 BTC [+] {2} |
05:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1047 @ 0.00012001 = 0.1257 BTC [-] |
05:57 |
punkman1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJAT6fEn0zw |
05:57 |
ozbot |
Nigeria Coin - Coin for Nigeria - YouTube |
06:01 |
* |
andyfletcher has inherited 1,000,00 NigeriaCoin from a relative in Lagos and needs help transferring them |
06:02 |
punkman1 |
I will trade you 1000 KarpelesCoin for it |
06:03 |
andyfletcher |
no thanks KarpelesCoins look scammy |
06:07 |
punkman1 |
I heard neobee is launching a coin this week |
06:07 |
punkman1 |
but you can only buy ads with it |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
06:26 |
cazalla |
reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9I-UA4IBOc |
06:27 |
cazalla |
oops, wrong one, this one is more like nigeria coin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iqQcNqfTDU |
06:41 |
chetty |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592534/Is-farcical-use-taxpayers-money-Ethiopian-gets-legal-aid-UK-sue-giving-aid-Ethiopia.html |
06:41 |
ozbot |
Is this the most farcical use of taxpayers' money ever: Ethiopian gets legal aid from UK - to sue us |
06:46 |
punkman1 |
so a farmer gets legal aid from UK, to sue the UK for sending too much money |
06:46 |
punkman1 |
makes sense I guess |
06:47 |
andyfletcher |
Bit of a gray area. If UK foreign aid is supporting regimes who are abusing the local population then I don't have too much of an issue with a legal aided challenge to it regardless of who is doing the challenge |
06:48 |
andyfletcher |
After all, the locals are the ones with legal 'standing' in the matter |
07:01 |
chetty |
a bit messy in court when the taxpayer is funding both sides |
07:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00094543 = 2.0355 BTC [-] {2} |
07:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8970 @ 0.00094615 = 8.487 BTC [+] |
07:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06750332 = 0.27 BTC [-] |
07:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-] |
07:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00094809 = 7.7743 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
08:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 746 @ 0.00094809 = 0.7073 BTC [+] |
08:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00094462 = 3.9674 BTC [-] |
08:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1550 @ 0.00013205 = 0.2047 BTC [+] {3} |
08:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.078 = 0.468 BTC [-] |
08:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 70 @ 0.00718998 = 0.5033 BTC [+] {3} |
08:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.067501 = 0.7425 BTC [-] {3} |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
08:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06612 = 0.1984 BTC [-] |
08:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06612 = 0.529 BTC [-] {2} |
08:55 |
MGK |
I heard this is the center of bitcoin, hello center |
08:57 |
MisterE |
hello 450 :) |
09:02 |
chetty |
hiya MGK |
09:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.065 = 0.195 BTC [-] |
09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5980210#msg5980210 |
09:07 |
ozbot |
[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings |
09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
pls t |
09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
pls to have informations ty. |
09:09 |
psterryl |
the more herp talks the more he comes across as extremely paranoid and pretty delusional |
09:17 |
mircea_popescu |
ahh that thread is too delicious |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
09:37 |
moiety |
bitpop is still going?! ffs |
09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
o look who's here. when did the menuls let you out of the cage moiety ? |
09:41 |
moiety |
earlier, but i went to do things (mothers day here) - thats why they released me XD how are you mircea_popescu? |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
oh you know, all butthurt about how nobody is using mpex anymore because i'm a dinosaur |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
here in my old apartment, with the chains... |
09:42 |
* |
moiety hands mircea_popescu the tissues |
09:42 |
moiety |
there there |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
and this half pound of hand made chocolate pralines i bought yesterday from the... uh... from the pantry |
09:43 |
moiety |
pralines are ace, they should numb the pain |
09:44 |
mircea_popescu |
oh, but nothing can ever dull the pain of dissaproval by a bunch of anon tards on a forum somewhere. |
09:44 |
mircea_popescu |
that's the worst. |
09:44 |
moiety |
do you not still have the form i gave you? to the logs! |
09:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i really am having too much fun online these days. |
09:45 |
mircea_popescu |
how the fuck would one not is the question. this beats anything steve martin ever did. |
09:45 |
moiety |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5981543#msg5981543 this thread has me reading the forum again and the dank bank |
| |
↖ |
09:45 |
ozbot |
[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings |
09:46 |
mircea_popescu |
the dank bank was epic lmao. -pr sends me the link with "you have to check this out" in the comment field, which you know, the fuck do i know what it is ? |
09:46 |
mircea_popescu |
totally blindsided me, i was roaring laughing. |
09:46 |
moiety |
me too lol insta-watch list addition for me |
09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i think there's enough material of good crazy quality on that forum so far to hack the borg cube. |
09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
just you know... hash it, or something. |
09:48 |
moiety |
lololol more than enough |
09:48 |
moiety |
its the only reason to be there really, for me anyways |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this is what, the... fourth installment of "we shall make our own webexchange and become rich out of lunch money" attempt that blew up ? |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
definitely looking forward to 2015. |
09:49 |
moiety |
XD only four? |
09:49 |
* |
andyfletcher is waiting for the headline "N&B CEO: Aliens ate our btc" |
09:50 |
moiety |
;; later tell BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444700.0 this is you isn't it?! |
09:50 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
09:50 |
mircea_popescu |
andyfletcher you happen to have that pic of 5 people, neo "ceo" guy on left, tuur guy next to him then 3 actual adults ? |
09:50 |
deadweasel |
the forums are seething with ignorance, I should block bitcointalk at the router. |
09:50 |
mircea_popescu |
some guy from the local uni etc |
09:51 |
moiety |
but but comedy |
09:51 |
* |
andyfletcher doesn't have the pic, but can imagine it |
09:52 |
deadweasel |
I can't block it, it's too rich. |
09:52 |
MGK |
where can I mine for PPS? |
09:52 |
moiety |
i've had a fair bit of idiocy to catch up on after ignoring btctalk existance for quite some time |
09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
MGK which are those ? |
09:53 |
MGK |
Pay Per Share |
09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
http://i.imgur.com/V40ebZQ.jpg it was something like that. |
09:53 |
MGK |
any pools still use that payment method? |
09:54 |
mircea_popescu |
MGK o you mean pools ? hm. |
09:54 |
mircea_popescu |
probably not. wasn't it eminently defraudable in some manner ? |
09:54 |
MGK |
yes pool that has PPS payment option |
09:55 |
moiety |
irrelevant but that room is gorgeous |
09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
well i imagine it musta been reasonably expensive. |
09:55 |
MGK |
Not totally sure |
09:56 |
moiety |
why do these places pair gorgeous ceilings with awful carpetting?! everywhere! |
09:57 |
chetty |
cause trolls have muddy feet |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety it's an expense thing. expensive carpeting is expensive to maintain. gorgeous ceilings are a one time only sort of expense. |
09:58 |
moiety |
good point.. let them have linoleum! |
09:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 312 @ 0.00088832 = 0.2772 BTC [+] |
10:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088832 = 0.1777 BTC [+] |
10:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"let them have linoleum and aim for the stars!" |
10:04 |
moiety |
could veen be marble pattern... |
10:04 |
moiety |
even* |
10:04 |
moiety |
imagine ukraine voted in darth vader.. what are they thinking running?! |
10:13 |
MGK |
anyone know how much IXC is or what that even is? and is dev coin worth anything? |
10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
you'll find few people here care about altcoins, outside perhaps atc and ltc, or to make fun of dodge. |
10:16 |
MGK |
only asked because ghash.io gives me them for mining bitcoin on their pool |
10:17 |
MGK |
and I have a decent amount now figured id ask about them |
10:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'd it stands for intraexchange currency |
10:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
and they probably issue it themselves as a token of some sort |
10:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
guess* |
10:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;google what is IXC at ghash.io |
10:18 |
gribble |
GHash.IO - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/GHash.IO>; Reason why miners like me won't leave GHASH.IO or won't stop ...: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1useqk/reason_why_miners_like_me_wont_leave_ghashio_or/>; FAQ – CEX.IO: <https://support.cex.io/hc/en-us/categories/200118967-FAQ> |
10:18 |
MGK |
you cant trade IXC or Dev on their exchange so why would they hand them out? Must not be worth anything is what im thinking |
10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.ixcoin.co/ |
10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
"The Inter eXchange Coin" |
10:19 |
punkman1 |
just an old altcoin that can be merge-mined |
10:20 |
MGK |
thanks |
10:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
thank google |
10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose merge mining does that, there'll be lots of abandocoins |
10:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
you should check it out: www.google.com |
10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, stuff nobody cares about anymore but since they're merge-mined there's plenty floating around |
10:23 |
MGK |
wow never heard of google, great find! |
10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
10:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's hit and miss, but useful |
10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
I wonder if there's anyone who actually said this honestly today, somewhere on the planet |
10:26 |
punkman1 |
likely |
10:29 |
mircea_popescu |
how tho. i mean most browsers ship with it embedded |
10:29 |
punkman1 |
well kids are being born every second |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
but much akin people of the 90s though the blue ms explorer icon was "the internet" |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
just so people of the 2010s at that level have no particular understanding of google as apart from the normal functioning of their browser |
10:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
well you did say anyone in the world |
10:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
plenty in remote areas never heard of it i assume |
10:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
90yo grandmas in developing countries |
10:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
grammy this is google! |
10:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06611111 = 0.6611 BTC [+] |
10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
hm |
10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
trying to imagine the world is such a mind boggling exercise. |
10:35 |
punkman1 |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=549572.0;all |
10:35 |
ozbot |
[ANN] Litecoin [LTC] X11 hardfork at block 564,480 |
10:36 |
MGK |
have you ever travelled much? |
10:36 |
mircea_popescu |
MGK yes. |
10:36 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman1 ouch. |
10:37 |
punkman1 |
alt-altcoin |
10:37 |
mircea_popescu |
MisterE: heh, I got a little nervous nelly today, thought we were going to test 400, so I sold some coin for 484 that I bought at 505 :/ << that's how fortunes are made. |
10:37 |
mircea_popescu |
other people's, but what's in a genitive. |
10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"To lower the footprint of LTC and retain GPU mineability, the algorithm of our choice is X11." footprint in what sense ? |
10:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00094462 = 8.6433 BTC [-] |
10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
has "footprint" become one of those words ? |
10:38 |
punkman1 |
environmental footprint most likely |
10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
but gpus are pretty inefficient |
10:39 |
punkman1 |
and these people are not people |
10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
course it makes exactly zero difference, in the end. |
10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
people will expend as much energy as they're willing to expend, how many hashes that yields is a purely conventional measure |
10:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
I do wonder if LTC ASICs will kill it |
10:41 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves well, the forum crowd still hoping to "strike it rich" on their ten bux will proclaim it dead |
10:41 |
mircea_popescu |
or "a scam", either way. |
10:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;ticker |
10:41 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 442.9, Best ask: 447.26, Bid-ask spread: 4.36000, Last trade: 442.9, 24 hour volume: 18908.29228525, 24 hour low: 442.89, 24 hour high: 501.9, 24 hour vwap: 473.125631005 |
10:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
looks like that bottom will be put to the test |
10:41 |
mircea_popescu |
but that aside ltc was always an iffy proposition. and contrary to what the proponents were screaming, it hasn't really been lifted by btc so much. |
10:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
to me its only offer was pretty much what Altcoin proclaims |
10:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
to be the clearest alt in the fog |
10:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
but the fog is so thick now |
10:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
and newcomers cant see it |
10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
to newcomers ltc has to win on the same ground as any other alt |
10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i think this is actually true. |
10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
as outlandish as it may sound |
10:43 |
turbo_ac100 |
(16:37:25) mircea_popescu: MisterE: heh, I got a little nervous nelly today, thought we were going to test 400, so I sold some coin for 484 that I bought at 505 :/ << that's how fortunes are made. << oracle of delphi, alexander the great |
10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
all it has left, is its liquidity |
10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves the liquidity problem of a crypto coin is problematic. i could present the following argument that atc actually has better liquidity : |
10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
the ratio between people willing to buy to support it and people needing to sell to pay for their mining is better. |
10:44 |
MisterE |
stamp testing 440 so not feeling too bad about it ;) |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
MisterE you already booked your loss no matter what other things happen around you. |
10:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
indeed |
10:45 |
MisterE |
yep |
10:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
however, I also suspect LTC may be used for money laundering |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
see, i bought 60 coins for 1k dollars in 2011. all through 2012 this was ~1k dollars loss. |
10:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
which makes a market for it |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
however, i never realised it, and so i can book a gain on that buy now if i feel like it. |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves what does that even mena ? |
10:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
well people selling btc for ltc trying to mix things |
10:46 |
MisterE |
trying to use the ratio to coin up |
10:46 |
VanCleef |
mircea needs to cash out and drive it back to single digits |
10:52 |
moiety |
my arsedness to deal with alts depletes everyday |
10:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
Estimated Next Difficulty:6,029,609,483 (+20.43%) |
10:55 |
VanCleef |
this bitcoiner that works upstairs from my office just jumped out from his window |
10:57 |
deadweasel |
suicide? |
10:57 |
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MP: you have some fans in teh Neo thread :) |
10:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
are you gonna pick his pockets? |
10:58 |
VanCleef |
#bitcoinsucidehelpline |
10:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
KS I think some of the quotes of MP you posted might be out of context |
10:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
the first two lines, I think he was talking about Litecoin |
10:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
but maybe not... |
11:00 |
nubbins` |
https://twitter.com/RPMCBC/status/450263996713926656 |
11:00 |
ozbot |
Twitter / RPMCBC: Now playing ... uh.. D**k Surgery ... |
11:00 |
* |
nubbins` cackles |
11:00 |
nubbins` |
i wonder what sort of royalties i'm entitled to |
11:00 |
VanCleef |
tat got out of neobee at the perfect time |
11:01 |
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TAT: really? whuddathunk? :) |
11:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
odds are there were more perfect times VanCleef |
11:01 |
VanCleef |
yeh? |
11:01 |
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I'm making fun of MPOE PR but she's not biting :( |
11:01 |
|
:) |
11:02 |
kakobrekla |
;;gettrust [KS] |
11:02 |
gribble |
Error: "KS" is not a valid command. |
11:02 |
VanCleef |
i like it when she bites...just a lil bit no raking |
11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
hax |
11:02 |
kakobrekla |
dafuq |
11:02 |
kakobrekla |
you in the wot son? |
11:02 |
|
I'm protected by the NSA |
11:03 |
|
:) |
11:03 |
kakobrekla |
its something you answer with yes or no, not a smiley face |
11:03 |
kakobrekla |
but i take its a no |
11:03 |
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correct |
11:04 |
|
(my previous "answer" was for 3 lines before) |
11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
[KS] i am dearly beloved wherever idiots gather. |
11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` perhaps free moyle services for lyf ? |
11:06 |
kakobrekla |
re beloved: things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike. |
11:07 |
nubbins` |
unfortunately i slept in, so i'm not sure which track they played |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla hehehe |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
"unfortunately confirmed with Niccocia that BREWSTER fled the country with thousands of coins from the IPVO and employees, unpaid employees and milions of dues to local businesses" |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
no fucking way anyone was stupid enough to credit that dude with millions. |
11:09 |
punkman1 |
why not? |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
well i don't know how they do it in cyprus, but i've never extended millions in commercial credit on unpaid accounts. |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
generally you let a customer walk with a few k's, then they pay that... takes someone even mid level many years to work themselves up to where they can run a tab in the millions |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
whereas this teenager suddenly appeared last summer. |
11:12 |
nubbins` |
"i'll pay you for all those magazine ads soon, i swear" |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
[KS] yes, my two lines in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5984734#msg5984734 were actually a reply to ThickAsThieves' comment about litecoin |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
you read teh rules ? |
11:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 74 @ 0.06271513 = 4.6409 BTC [-] {8} |
11:12 |
chetty |
I'll gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` ok, that may be an exception, seeing how nobody is interested in buying ads, and ESPECIALLY not at list prices, so if you're the sort of schmuck that may be tricked into it and they have nothing else to run anyway, |
11:13 |
nubbins` |
[KS] quoting out of context? tsk |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
they just might run $50k worth of ads and pretend they're owed $1.050 mn |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, if you're curious : the last time i bought ads, cca 2006, i simply crossed out anyone who wasn't willing to go UNDER 50% of list price, and just negotiated with everyone else. |
11:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 86 @ 0.06063386 = 5.2145 BTC [-] {5} |
11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
on average i paid if memory serves ~31% or so. |
11:14 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone thinking they can build a business out of paying ratecard has got a whole other layer of things wrong with their head. |
11:16 |
nubbins` |
the problem is that btc space is still infested -- almost completely -- with rubes |
11:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
rates get really good towards deadline too |
11:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06050001 = 0.121 BTC [-] |
11:16 |
nubbins` |
drooling idiots falling over each other to "provide services", "offer funds", "invest", etc |
11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
11:17 |
nubbins` |
too many people hanging off the wheels of the airplane, i tell ya |
11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
but it's fuuuu...*splotch* |
11:18 |
nubbins` |
"my privately minted 10btc round is worth 40btc" |
11:18 |
nubbins` |
"we have a business plan" |
11:18 |
nubbins` |
etc |
11:18 |
mircea_popescu |
"we r ceo" |
11:18 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds like y-m-c-a |
11:18 |
moiety |
i was thinking D.I.S.C.O tune |
11:19 |
nubbins` |
"this idea will sell itself" |
11:20 |
mircea_popescu |
or that. |
11:20 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus fuck i can't believe how broken the internet is. anyway, investopedia is wrong. the definition of commercial credit has nothing to do with any bank. |
11:21 |
mircea_popescu |
commercial credit is created by any merchant that delivers goods to another but does not force them to pay right off. |
11:21 |
nubbins` |
"we can make a hardware wallet" |
11:21 |
mircea_popescu |
this de-facto creates some extra money in the system, and the aggregate is known as "commercial credit" |
11:22 |
nubbins` |
"paper wallets are too confusing" |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
MGK: I heard this is the center of bitcoin, hello center << lol i had just missed that. hello mgk. who are you ? |
11:24 |
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MP: I think you should pay me, I'm doing better PR than MPOE PR. Plus, I'm not deforming your words. Everything is verbatim! :) |
11:25 |
nubbins` |
[KS], i think YOU should pay ME! |
11:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ |
11:25 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
"On the other hand professional also implies that you understand how context works, and will never ever under any circumstances omit relevant context when quoting, especially when such omission changes the meaning of your quote and the quoted then has to point this out to you" |
11:26 |
MGK |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.220 |
11:26 |
nubbins` |
^ |
11:26 |
nubbins` |
rather, ^^ |
11:27 |
nubbins` |
"i pasted a bunch of lines out of context in the forums, didn't link to the log, or even bother putting it inside a quote block. this guarantees that not only will nobody read it, but nobody who does can even verify its authenticity. i think you should pay me." |
11:27 |
nubbins` |
my sides, etc |
11:28 |
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Yup. Except it wasn't quoting if its not in "quotes". |
11:28 |
|
http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
you'll do well here |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
i can tell already |
11:28 |
|
I'll post 2 lines to make that clear if you want. |
11:28 |
mircea_popescu |
[KS] eh get out, you're an otherwise smart fellow about to paint himself in a corner trying to argue nonsense of the sake of nonsense. |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
^ |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
it happens, irc is fluid, just fix it and forget about it. |
11:29 |
nubbins` |
thanks for the link to grammar book, btw |
11:29 |
nubbins` |
i literally did not know what quotation marks were |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean "literally" |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
"thanks" |
11:30 |
kakobrekla |
does that mean 'being trashful'? |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
"oh yeah ? well i had sex with your wife!" |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla "that". |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
http://distractify.com/people/the-30-most-unnecessary-uses-of-quotation-marks-in-history/ |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
sorry for linking to some shit upworthy-esque website |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
but unnecessary quotes really tickle me |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
o look. there's a bunch of cracked.coms now |
11:32 |
bounce |
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/decdd76e-b50e-11e3-a746-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2xRpg9i00 |
11:32 |
ozbot |
Save capitalism from the capitalists by taxing wealth - FT.com |
11:32 |
blackwhite |
hola peeps |
11:32 |
blackwhite |
http://digitalinterface.blogspot.com/2014/03/strangecoin-proposal-for-nonlinear.html |
11:32 |
ozbot |
digital interface: Strangecoin: a nonlinear currency |
11:32 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce sounds just about forum-y. |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
blackwhite cliffnotes ? |
11:33 |
kakobrekla |
its a bitcoin with if rand() ==== 4; goto fail; |
11:33 |
deadweasel |
nubbins`: lol @ Objects in quotation marks. For, you know, reasons. |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
deadweasel nubbins` you know someone on the forum put mircea popescu in quotes ? |
11:33 |
nubbins` |
"security guard" |
11:33 |
nubbins` |
mp lel |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
like you know... i'm an allegedly me sort of thing |
11:34 |
nubbins` |
that's cute |
11:34 |
deadweasel |
allegedly |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahahaha ring bell for "MEAT SERVICE" |
11:34 |
bounce |
$other_rag presented it as the short version of that guy's 600-odd page book. I'm sure he's got bad ideas mixed inextricably with the good like any economist would |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
totally needs a nude gal next to the frozen turkeys. |
11:35 |
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"<mircea_popescu> like you know... i'm an allegedly me sort of thing" - I can see a quote coming... :) |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun recall where it was, maybe the neo bee thread |
11:35 |
nubbins` |
putting "thanks" in quotes is the best |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
He's the one who totally won't inject your breasts with cement. Totally not that one. |
11:36 |
nubbins` |
if you are "pregnant"... |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder how many women go around the daily chores of their cocksucking on camera life *thinking* they have saline solution breast implants |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
when in fact it's really urine. |
11:36 |
deadweasel |
yuck |
11:37 |
deadweasel |
why yo titties so sloshy bitch? |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
http://zeqps2k4t563atbs730zvzq12aw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1858.jpg |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty good one |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
picture john cleese going "well it's not bloody england now is it!" |
11:40 |
nubbins` |
lel |
11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
http://zeqps2k4t563atbs730zvzq12aw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/quote6.jpg aaaahahaha |
11:41 |
nubbins` |
immediately below: "management reserves the right to refuse service..." |
11:41 |
Mats_cd03 |
id like my pee to be used to inflate boobies one day |
11:41 |
Mats_cd03 |
what an honor |
11:41 |
nubbins` |
WHOA |
11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
you know "the throne" is common romanian parlance for the toilet bowl/seat ? |
11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
russian too afaik |
11:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00645971 = 2.5839 BTC [+] {9} |
11:42 |
pankkake |
french too |
11:42 |
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MP there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;topic=289730.4140;num_replies=4145 |
11:43 |
|
happy? :) |
11:43 |
nubbins` |
english too |
11:43 |
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I'm off. Good fun. |
11:43 |
nubbins` |
aka porcelain throne |
11:43 |
mircea_popescu |
"Only registered members are allowed to access this section." da fuck was that. |
11:43 |
nubbins` |
aka the ralph & bob telephone |
11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
"Its 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot. The woman is on the verge of tears" |
11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be so epic. i'd have just taken the motherfucking fish. |
11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
seat it on the seat next to me |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
"sorry, obama's direct orders" |
11:45 |
nubbins` |
pop it in her mouth |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
supreme court says this is not a fish. |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a tax. |
11:45 |
nubbins` |
there's usually water for sale on the other side of security |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
gold fish in mineral water |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ahem. i mean "gold fish in mineral water" |
11:45 |
nubbins` |
i mean if the guard wasn't such a dick he'd have a glass of secure water on the other side of the xray |
11:45 |
nubbins` |
she could just pluck the fish out and pass it thru |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
stick a little q-tip in its mouyth first |
11:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.65984978 = 1.9795 BTC [+] {3} |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
swab for explosives |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
good idea |
11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
some fish puff up |
11:50 |
mircea_popescu |
it's almost like an explosion. |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
incidentally we were dismantled and swabbed when returning from colombia |
11:50 |
nubbins` |
canada customs asked my travelling partner: "so how was the cocaine?" |
| |
↖ |
11:51 |
nubbins` |
never saw a man lose color so quickly |
11:51 |
mircea_popescu |
see, this is why you train the entourage. |
11:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11763 @ 0.00094429 = 11.1077 BTC [-] {2} |
11:51 |
nubbins` |
all they found on me was a GIGANTIC SPIDER hidden in my hammock |
11:51 |
mircea_popescu |
the correct response is "i can't remember, his cock was just fucking fantastic i forgot all about everything else" |
11:51 |
nubbins` |
i shouted JESUS CHRIST and the nice customs man stomped it to a paste |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.44074060 BTC to 4`860 shares, 50221 satoshi per share |
11:59 |
kakobrekla |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5985816#msg5985816 |
11:59 |
ozbot |
[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings |
11:59 |
kakobrekla |
the high mpoe-pr priest has converted another one! |
12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao who's cassandra-pr |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
12:18 |
moiety |
oh christ http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/30/this-200000-gold-ferrari-convertible-is-fit-for-a-kickboxing-champion-4683140/ |
12:18 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: 'pleasure throne' link from your 'twitter' seems to be a knock-off of the famous 'sybian' auto-wanker. |
12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
certainly. |
12:19 |
asciilifeform |
what's interesting is that the photo looks like it was taken at a tech trade show |
12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
and the two look like a sort of midwestern bouvard & pecuchet |
12:20 |
asciilifeform |
;;google teledildonics |
12:20 |
gribble |
Teledildonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics>; Teledildonics: The Weird, Wonderful World of Social Sex Toys: <http://gizmodo.com/teledildonics-the-weird-wonderful-world-of-social-sex-1516075707>; Teledildonics – there's an app for that! (NSFW) - Gizmag: <http://www.gizmag.com/lovepalz-iphone-teledildonics-app/24254/> |
12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"Levy argued that by 2050 "sex with robots will be commonplace." |
12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
this is such a weak statement. sex with whatever has at hand has been commonplace since forever, |
12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
inasmuch as by sex you mean copulation and ejaculation |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
12:37 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
;;ticker |
12:37 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 440.04, Best ask: 440.37, Bid-ask spread: 0.33000, Last trade: 440.37, 24 hour volume: 24513.27393403, 24 hour low: 436.0, 24 hour high: 501.9, 24 hour vwap: 465.965967901 |
12:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00615339 = 0.1723 BTC [-] {5} |
12:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.659499 BTC [-] |
12:53 |
tg2 |
Teledildonics |
12:55 |
tg2 |
xdotcommer ^ |
12:55 |
tg2 |
Has a phd in this field |
12:57 |
benkay |
;;gpg everify benkay |
12:57 |
gribble |
Error: Could not find a pending authentication request from your hostmask. Either it expired, or you changed hostmask, or you haven't made one. |
12:57 |
benkay |
;;gpg eauth benkay |
12:57 |
gribble |
Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~user@216-161-94-151.ptld.qwest.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/39F274AFBC7ACAC7 |
12:58 |
benkay |
;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9b1f48c2d3f7308c2bfc37b583412ab487e081fbf3942171827ad295 |
12:58 |
benkay |
|
12:58 |
gribble |
You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7 |
12:59 |
benkay |
"A braindamaged assumption is that on account of any sort of “qualifications” or simply on account of your existence you’re pretty cool and certainly equal to anyone else. " |
13:00 |
benkay |
the20year2: "The market is the best instrument for both pricing assets and allocating capital that humans have stumbled upon so far." |
13:00 |
benkay |
i forgot all about rules and regs |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
these words... |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
they sound familiar |
13:00 |
benkay |
just sucking up, mp |
13:00 |
benkay |
http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
o are you a sock ? |
13:00 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
13:00 |
benkay |
i'm actually you |
13:01 |
benkay |
can't you tell by my rating? |
13:01 |
benkay |
it's all from your other socks. |
13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i aspire to have 365 pairs of socks |
13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
that way, i can launder money only once a year. |
13:02 |
benkay |
sounds sticky |
13:03 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i've often wondered if there is, somewhere, a literal 'money laundry' - for trips to Dubai, etc. where a nanogram of coke merits the firing squad |
13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
you can mostly just put it in the wash |
13:04 |
AccountantPierre |
Bonjour |
13:04 |
benkay |
allo |
13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
salu |
13:05 |
AccountantPierre |
I'm the treasurer over at the new Satoshi Nakamoto Institute. My colleague Daniel published a new piece today: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/hyperbitcoinization/ Interested to hear intelligent opinions/feedback |
13:06 |
benkay |
;;google good money drives out bad |
13:06 |
gribble |
Gresham's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's_law>; Gresham's Law Definition | Investopedia: <http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/greshams-law.asp>; Gresham's law (economics) -- Encyclopedia Britannica: <http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/245850/Greshams-law> |
13:06 |
AccountantPierre |
Thier's Law applies to Bitcoin, not Gresham's |
13:06 |
benkay |
kinda an old saw, this 'demonetization' thing. |
13:07 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre were you here before / are you related to Pierre Rochard ? |
13:07 |
AccountantPierre |
That's me |
13:07 |
mircea_popescu |
aite i'll read it once im done with this cunt size post for trilema. |
13:08 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: cunt size post ?! |
13:08 |
asciilifeform |
;;google go no go gauge |
13:08 |
gribble |
Go/no go gauge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go/no_go_gauge>; GO/NO-GO GAUGE SETS | Brownells: <http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/measuring-tools/headspace-gauges/go-no-go-gauge-sets-prod26876.aspx>; Go No Go Gauge | eBay: <http://www.ebay.com/bhp/go-no-go-gauge> |
13:08 |
benkay |
;;later tell BingoBoingo http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/ |
13:08 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:08 |
benkay |
wd AccountantPierre |
13:08 |
benkay |
are those collections available as a single file? |
13:09 |
AccountantPierre |
benkay: enjoy https://github.com/NakamotoInstitute/nakamotoinstitute.org/blob/master/satoshiposts.json |
13:11 |
benkay |
o wow mises circle's been busy too |
13:12 |
AccountantPierre |
yep. We'll be transitioning all of our bitcoin posts from the mises circle to SNI |
13:12 |
benkay |
AccountantPierre: why is your name still on the Foundation website? |
13:12 |
benkay |
;;gettrust AccountantPierre |
13:12 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user AccountantPierre: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=AccountantPierre | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=AccountantPierre | Rated since: never |
13:12 |
AccountantPierre |
Where? |
13:13 |
benkay |
https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current |
13:13 |
AccountantPierre |
huh, didn't know they publish that. I'm a big tent kind of guy, I post in the foundation forums |
13:14 |
benkay |
careful your tent doesn't get lit on fire by bfl shareholders |
13:14 |
benkay |
er |
13:14 |
benkay |
preorderer |
13:14 |
benkay |
arglarglargl |
13:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1820 @ 0.00013796 = 0.2511 BTC [+] {3} |
13:14 |
AccountantPierre |
haha |
13:20 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
.d |
13:20 |
ozbot |
5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1077 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.7098% in 6d 10h 37m 2s |
13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre who draw that cartoon ? |
13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
drew* |
13:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 450 @ 0.0064828 = 2.9173 BTC [+] {10} |
13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre also this is prolly of interest re the entire hyperinflation/demonetisaiton : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2014#468962 |
13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
it is an old saw, as benkay points out. that particular link references earlier reports provided by herbi who actually run the pinksheets and found the highest stock increase in the history of stock increases fails to come within one degree of magnitude of bitcoin's. |
13:26 |
moiety |
http://i.imgur.com/e0tEBsV.jpg |
13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
so to sum up, the piece suffers from the same problem illustrated by the opening cartoon : a mostly banal piece with very poor references. surely people outside of the mises circle must have written about these matters, perhaps for years. |
13:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.65982142 = 4.6187 BTC [+] {4} |
13:27 |
benkay |
put it on a pleasure throne, moiety |
13:27 |
moiety |
hihi benkay, how goes today |
13:27 |
asciilifeform |
'pleasurethrone.com' appears defunct. |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
also disqus is fucking evil. |
13:27 |
asciilifeform |
guess they didn't sell that well |
13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
can you picture a woman buying dildos from those two guys ? |
13:28 |
AccountantPierre |
mircea_popescu: Daniel drew it. I'm thinking we'll phase out disqus and roll our own |
13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
they couldn't pass the genuine article for free. |
13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre so then you know, say "Daniel drew it" |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
generally speaking you have no better way to ruin a first impression on the web than unsourced material |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
(other than perhaps bad tech solutions, a la disqus) |
13:29 |
moiety |
mircea_popescu: i thought that lol - the sign behind them says, "you are limited only by your imagination" errr and those chaps |
13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety the idea of giving you a crown for fucking... |
13:31 |
AccountantPierre |
I'll take that criticism, but we do have to allocate our time as best we can |
13:31 |
benkay |
dunce cap |
13:31 |
benkay |
gotta work that into the routine |
13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
which part is the timesink ? |
13:31 |
benkay |
dunce cap and collar |
13:32 |
AccountantPierre |
creating a comments section |
13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
oh |
13:32 |
moiety |
lololol |
13:32 |
AccountantPierre |
benkay: I'll get started on making one, I need it a lot as twenty something |
13:32 |
benkay |
making which, AccountantPierre ? |
13:32 |
AccountantPierre |
the dunce cap |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
"There's no bigger joke than this mpex dude and his army of spamtroll donkeys." that's funny, because the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing a bunch of forum derps that he's running the largest shill stable in the world without having to actually pay a cent for it. |
13:33 |
benkay |
o hey look i don't even need to make my own sexy acoutremont any more, thanks -assets |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre you know you can just register #satoshi-institute |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
or /we |
13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
"if you want to discuss our articles, click here" |
13:33 |
benkay |
nubbins`: lol'd @ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2014&bots=true#592998 |
13:34 |
nubbins` |
bright fella |
13:34 |
AccountantPierre |
I like that idea, the issue is the lack of distinct threads |
13:36 |
benkay |
AccountantPierre: emails. |
13:36 |
benkay |
append to post. |
13:36 |
benkay |
do it ghetto stylee |
13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
may turn out to be an advantage. but anyway. |
13:36 |
benkay |
best thing is this makes for no comments |
13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
the main focus should be much better integration. i can appreciate that a trained accountant wants to keep things well separate |
13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
but the internet does not, nor does the brain. |
13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
nor, for that matter, bitcoin. |
13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
so, reference more. |
13:37 |
AccountantPierre |
true. Appreciate your thoughts. If people knew git they could do a pull request with their comment |
13:37 |
mircea_popescu |
conversely, maybe only getting comments from people who know git is a blessing. |
13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i know only talking to people who can run irc has worked ok for me these past coupla years. |
13:38 |
benkay |
GIT COMMENTS |
13:38 |
benkay |
HORY SHIT |
13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay u jelly ? |
13:38 |
benkay |
what, of an idea? get lost. |
13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
u r aintcha. |
13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
you knew that email klutz is klutzy |
13:39 |
benkay |
or the massive corpus of ideas you have access to recombine on demand? |
13:39 |
benkay |
my life is extremely klutzy |
13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
so so helly :D |
13:39 |
benkay |
one day i'll be old too |
13:39 |
benkay |
you'll be senile |
13:39 |
benkay |
we'll be even |
13:40 |
mircea_popescu |
hehehe |
13:41 |
benkay |
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/01/24/1750472/why-its-tough-being-in-an-altcoin-cartel/ |
13:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 276 @ 0.00088832 = 0.2452 BTC [+] |
13:41 |
ozbot |
Why it’s tough being in an altcoin cartel | FT Alphaville |
13:42 |
benkay |
link sux disregard |
13:42 |
Mats_cd03 |
nub |
13:43 |
benkay |
feelings |
13:44 |
nubbins` |
heh apparently the cbc introduced our band as "D-something surgery" |
13:45 |
nubbins` |
bit too racy for 10am on a sunday, i guess |
13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` so are you sold out yet ? |
13:46 |
benkay |
lol girls mom just called me |
13:46 |
benkay |
"hi b plz get k to call me i'd like to talk to her about something" |
13:46 |
mircea_popescu |
can i tell all the chicks i used to listen to dick surgery back before they were all commercialised crap ? |
13:46 |
nubbins` |
we're technically not sellouts until we get airplay on a station that isn't supported by tax dollars ;D |
13:47 |
benkay |
girls voicemail has been filled with momversations. now its time for mine. |
13:49 |
nubbins` |
"A guy orders 25 hits. I send him a 5x5 sheet. His feedback reads "The hit was very large but I managed to fit it in my mouth. The lines were neat. Good trip". I wonder if the guy thought the 25 hits were one!?" |
13:49 |
nubbins` |
hahah |
13:49 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: my klutzy ass would implement patches over email anyways |
13:50 |
nubbins` |
guy takes 5000ug of LSD. "good trip." |
13:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00094253 = 11.7345 BTC [-] {4} |
13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
well... you can't really od on the stuff can you ? |
13:53 |
nubbins` |
not in the sense that you'll cause damage to your body, no |
13:53 |
nubbins` |
psychological effects, different story |
13:54 |
Mats_cd03 |
urban myth |
13:54 |
nubbins` |
great way to get a permanent thousand-yard stare |
13:54 |
nubbins` |
Mats_cd03: i'm not saying "guy now thinks he's an orange" or anything |
13:54 |
tg2 |
I think you could probably kill yourself as a result of taking to much lsd |
13:54 |
tg2 |
But not an od on it per se |
13:55 |
Mats_cd03 |
ive eaten vials of the stuff and im mostly all here |
13:55 |
tg2 |
Just getting yourself into a dangerous predicament because of it |
13:55 |
BCB |
what is going on with Neo and Bee at Havelock |
13:55 |
nubbins` |
nod, worst that usually happens is that people start thinking you're a bit odd |
13:56 |
benkay |
then your hair goes all frizzy and white |
13:56 |
nubbins` |
but the same could happen from any number of intense experiences |
13:56 |
nubbins` |
BCB: nothing ;D |
13:56 |
benkay |
BCB: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/28_havelock-freezes-neobee-trading-thickasthieves-steps-down-as-fund-manager.html |
13:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 86 @ 0.007 = 0.602 BTC [-] |
13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518131.msg5727530#msg5727530[color=green |
13:57 |
ozbot |
Herp Rating Agency |
13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
herp had a rating agency ? |
13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
the forum never ends. |
13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"Herp Rating Agency is an initiative born out of the need for due diligence in the Bitcoin ecosystem." |
13:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 142 @ 0.007 = 0.994 BTC [-] |
13:57 |
benkay |
neo and bee - buy |
13:57 |
benkay |
a++ rating would read again |
13:57 |
BCB |
benkay, hmmm... another bitcoin scam? |
13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://i.imgur.com/7w1dawk.jpg |
13:57 |
kakobrekla |
nubbins` this thing you linked earlier from the log, its in the bash, this one precisely: |
13:57 |
kakobrekla |
BCB http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=43 |
13:58 |
benkay |
BCB: save your cash and assume anything on Havelock is a scam. |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
few better ways to establish credibility than to awkwardly cut away the watermark on some unrelated design |
13:58 |
nubbins` |
kakobrekla, one of my finer moments |
13:58 |
benkay |
;;later tell JorgePasada hey lookie you're famous now: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=90 |
13:58 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:59 |
BCB |
benkay, so neo and bee is as scammy as havelock? |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
no, the other way around i think |
13:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 1.41654500 BTC to 21`793 shares, 6500 satoshi per share |
13:59 |
BCB |
havelock is as scammy os neo and bee |
13:59 |
nubbins` |
nah man, HIF is totally gonna pay dividends like they promised |
13:59 |
benkay |
BCB: impossible to differentiate incompetence and malice from this dimension |
14:00 |
benkay |
hey youse guise today i learned bitcoin doesn't have the discipline to be a monopoly |
14:00 |
nubbins` |
they're totally not an order of magnitude short on volume-based trading fees either |
14:00 |
benkay |
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/01/23/1749972/attack-of-the-killer-rentiers/? |
14:00 |
ozbot |
Attack of the killer rentiers | FT Alphaville |
14:00 |
BCB |
benkay, tuur demeester was a big proponent of neo and bee |
14:00 |
benkay |
BCB: so? |
14:00 |
nubbins` |
turd meister? |
14:00 |
benkay |
shh nubbins` where are your manners |
14:00 |
nubbins` |
A+++++ would trust based on name |
14:00 |
BCB |
benkay, I thought he was one of the good guys ( like mircea popescu ) |
14:01 |
benkay |
what is good? |
14:01 |
kakobrekla |
good is bad. |
14:01 |
BCB |
benkay, does his due dilligence. |
14:01 |
MykelSIlver |
You can't even trust Satoshi |
14:01 |
BCB |
everyone just reads press releases like they are FACT |
14:01 |
benkay |
inability to distinguish between people who say things that sound nice to your ears and people who routinely make good calls is the source of a lot of wasted BTC. |
14:01 |
BCB |
coindesk is the worst thing to come along in bitcoin land |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
BCB there's a lengthy history of dubious ventures enlisting otherwise good guys who are a little bit naive and a little bit in over their head. |
14:02 |
mircea_popescu |
labcoin did it, activemining did it, pirate definitely did it. |
14:02 |
benkay |
BCB: i've yet to read a thing from him that was particularly useful. granted, i've not dug in depth. |
14:02 |
kakobrekla |
labcoin was not a naive thing |
14:02 |
BCB |
benkay, I don't read him all all but he is all over the place |
14:02 |
kakobrekla |
nor was pirate |
14:02 |
mircea_popescu |
people are slow to learn this lesson, especially because otherwise good guys with a diploma imagine retarded shit a la "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" and eschew sucking their cocks. |
14:02 |
kakobrekla |
active i dunno. |
14:02 |
benkay |
BCB: all over where? i'm pretty well read and he doesn't even register on my feeds. |
14:02 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, what about jon matonis |
14:02 |
mircea_popescu |
there's this philosophy of "do everything by yourself" prevalent in the us, and it is getting people in trouble in bitcoin space something fierce. |
14:03 |
kakobrekla |
what about roger ver |
14:03 |
BCB |
kakobrekla, criminal |
14:03 |
mircea_popescu |
BCB im not about to discuss individuals unless i have something specific to say. |
14:03 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, shocking. I guess I should MOP PR |
14:03 |
BCB |
*ask |
14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i dunno, re pirate say, i believe people like copumpkin were moreover clueless and well meaning in their dysfunctional, social-justice-y sort of way |
14:04 |
kakobrekla |
you meant MOB PR? |
14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
rather than outright criminal. |
14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
BCB she's worse in that respect. by the time she's calling out your name you're going down. |
14:05 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, the pirate victims were just greedy |
14:05 |
BCB |
blinded by greed |
14:05 |
benkay |
AccountantPierre: this is what you want to be writing http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/01/06/1733392/when-qe-becomes-decentralised/ |
14:05 |
BCB |
pigs get fatter hogs get slaughtered |
14:05 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay what is with you and ft blogs. they're unreadable. |
14:05 |
the20year2 |
benkay: which market? |
14:06 |
benkay |
the20year2: are you serious? |
14:06 |
the20year2 |
i just ctrl+f your sentence and didn't read much previous from there |
14:06 |
benkay |
The market |
14:06 |
benkay |
i don't-- |
14:06 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, what about the bitcoin foundation |
14:07 |
benkay |
uuaghuaghuaa |
14:07 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: must be my broken american brainz |
14:07 |
benkay |
(Diablo-D3: graiiinz) |
14:07 |
BCB |
has anyone read the new o'reiley bitcoin book? |
14:08 |
Diablo-D3 |
benkay: hee |
14:08 |
mircea_popescu |
BCB teh scamdation has collected btc donations, failed to release reports and then collected more btc "donations" from various scams it vouched for. |
14:08 |
kakobrekla |
BCB the questions you are asking re people and stuff have mostly been talked about. search around the logs and blogs, this is not a spoonfeeding party |
14:08 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much the best way to ensure you won't get anywhere in bitcoin is to involve yourself with the bitcoin foundation. |
14:08 |
BCB |
kakobrekla, I'm bored. Sorry |
14:09 |
mircea_popescu |
it's roughly speaking the nambla of this space. |
14:09 |
kakobrekla |
North American Man/Boy Love Association ? |
14:09 |
mircea_popescu |
the same |
14:09 |
BCB |
kakobrekla, I'm writing a bash implementation of a blockchain parser and I needed to take a break |
14:09 |
AccountantPierre |
benkay: "private QE" is as played out as "monetization". Unsurprisingly I prefer my own analytical framework: http://themisescircle.org/blog/2013/12/15/the-bitcoin-central-banks-perfect-monetary-policy/ |
14:10 |
BCB |
AccountantPierre, I thought you guys were closing down the misescircle |
14:10 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
;;ticker |
14:10 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 456.55, Best ask: 457.97, Bid-ask spread: 1.42000, Last trade: 457.97, 24 hour volume: 29003.93489152, 24 hour low: 436.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 463.413765818 |
14:10 |
AccountantPierre |
Not closing down, but transitioning bitcoin stuff to SNI |
14:10 |
BCB |
ahh |
14:10 |
benkay |
AccountantPierre: you said synergistically |
14:11 |
benkay |
my eyes are bleeding |
14:11 |
AccountantPierre |
benkay: you're welcome |
14:12 |
benkay |
AccountantPierre: fiduciary media aren't impossible, just nigh impossible |
14:12 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, BTW i'm an excellent monopoly player |
14:12 |
benkay |
with a TB blockchain, they may become necessary. |
14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
BCB it's a trivial game really. |
14:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 57 @ 0.007 = 0.399 BTC [-] |
14:14 |
novusordo |
it was fun to play for BTC a year or so back |
14:14 |
novusordo |
some OTCers made a channel for it, don't remember what it was |
14:14 |
AccountantPierre |
benkay: that quickly gets into a semantic debate of what fiduciary media is. I don't view off-blockchain transactions with coinbase-bux to be fiduciary media. You'd have to create something I can send to a bitcoin address and the recipient thinks its bitcoins. Nigh impossible indeed |
14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
i vaguely recall the monopoly btc thing |
14:15 |
benkay |
that's a neat position on fidiuciary media. |
14:15 |
the20year2 |
Are you an accountant? |
14:16 |
novusordo |
mircea_popescu: i remember playing it with aethero and lucidlepidoptera, lol |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
o yeah, check this out, a match made in heaven. |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre what'd you need to be paid to audit the20year2's rental properties corp ? |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
novusordo are those two still together ? |
14:16 |
novusordo |
not a clue |
14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
stormy was pretty hot. aethero was... pretty strange. |
14:17 |
AccountantPierre |
a real audit or just some specific due diligence procedures? |
14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
a real audit. |
14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
certify his book. |
14:17 |
AccountantPierre |
estimated amount of assets? visiting properties could get expensive, where are they? |
14:17 |
nubbins` |
aethero was just mentioned in -otc |
14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
all in ohio. |
14:17 |
nubbins` |
regarding ops that went bad |
14:17 |
the20year2 |
~$500k of assets including bitcoin |
14:18 |
the20year2 |
6 properties, central Ohio , although i don't know if physical inspection would be absolutely needed when you could just get deed copies |
14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre afaik it's not customary to do a ground inspection if torrens title is available neh ? |
14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
o wait, the us doesn't use torrens |
14:18 |
the20year2 |
We file deeds at the county auditor |
14:19 |
* |
mircea_popescu is pretty well clueless as to real estate auditing procedures adequate for central ohio |
14:19 |
AccountantPierre |
depends on risk assessment at beginning of audit |
14:19 |
the20year2 |
I'm not aware of any state that uses torrens, though canada I believe does |
14:19 |
the20year2 |
What kind of risk assessment? |
14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year2 well if the auditor suspects fraud or under some court mandates etc. |
14:20 |
AccountantPierre |
risk of material misstatement of the financials. $25k for a one man cpa shop. |
14:21 |
the20year2 |
Ouch |
14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
AccountantPierre for my own repository of factoids, what's the insurance premium hike look like after a forfeit for material misstatement ? |
14:22 |
AccountantPierre |
Insurance for the CPA firm or for the audit client? Either way, no clue, never dealt with that kind of insurance |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the insurane firm |
14:22 |
the20year2 |
I wasn't aware they sold insurance to CPAs |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
uh, you're not insured ?! |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
whoa ?! |
14:22 |
the20year2 |
I'm not a CPA |
14:22 |
AccountantPierre |
there are thousands of people at my firm, division of labor, someone else takes care of that |
14:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0009444 = 16.1492 BTC [+] {2} |
14:22 |
AccountantPierre |
"my firm" as in "my employer" |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
14:23 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, I could reccomend a cpa for around 10K for a full audit |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda besides the point now isn't it. |
14:24 |
the20year2 |
When we were looking for book audits for a TSX listing possibility they ran $15k/yr |
14:24 |
the20year2 |
Of course $25k might not be terribly bad if you're sending a guy to Ohio to physically visit properties and review deed copies |
14:25 |
benkay |
kinda one of those things you expect a REIT to be able to afford. |
14:25 |
BCB |
novusordo, what ever happened to aethero, anyone know? |
14:25 |
the20year2 |
Not for one with only 6 properties and less than $500k of properties, that's 5% a year in just audits |
14:25 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, hire a certified CPA in ohio |
14:26 |
the20year2 |
Would make alot more sense to just hire a 3rd party agent or title company to do the investigation, hire a title search on all the properties, will run you $75/ea |
14:26 |
AccountantPierre |
Yeah, hire a local guy, not a big 4 firm based out of nyc |
14:26 |
benkay |
doesn't really sound like a REIT at that scale. more like a hodgepodge. |
14:26 |
the20year2 |
$150-$200 for lawyer review |
14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
BCB he tried to start some sort of business, listed it on btct if memory serves, and well... just like all the others. |
14:28 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, he left a lot of guys on otc and btcjam holding the bag as well |
14:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.05699999 = 0.342 BTC [+] |
14:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.00714999 = 0.286 BTC [+] {2} |
14:29 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah i guess this match wasn't made in heaven in any sense. a well :p |
14:31 |
the20year2 |
We were on BF when they closed up |
14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5988372#msg5988372 they are on to you nao my fine scottish friend. |
14:46 |
the20year2 |
anyone understand what's going on with neobee? |
14:49 |
benkay |
there are two facts. |
14:50 |
moiety |
mircea_popescu: lolol holy fuck lol i hope mpoe-pr isnt offended. i would like to reply, they should go here http://i.imgur.com/Z7lAjiF.jpg |
14:50 |
Duffer1 |
must be odd to be called a scammer by minerpart |
14:51 |
benkay |
http://f3000.tumblr.com/ |
14:51 |
ozbot |
FUCK3000 |
14:55 |
andyfletcher |
It is all getting more than a bit personal on bitcointalk |
15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety in mpoe-pr's own words, "incredible how the ciucius of the world manage to sound exactly alike. no matter their nationalities and motha tongues." |
15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, reddit does feelings : no matter their nationalities and motha tongues |
15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
oops |
15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/15vjvc/i_was_violently_raped_last_summer_i_know_im/ |
15:04 |
novusordo |
BCB: no idea, I never got anything back from the small amount I put into his business that never got off the ground |
15:05 |
novusordo |
haven't heard anything from/about him since that ship sunk |
15:07 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay seems like a happy couple. |
15:08 |
benkay |
rly? i see a few different both boys and girls |
15:09 |
benkay |
just contri-putin |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://dpaste.com/1764871/ |
15:11 |
ozbot |
dpaste: #1764871 |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile the ever vigilant forum is wiping out the neobee discussion |
15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
what was the link to that copy ? |
15:12 |
moiety |
i hadn't read that page, her comment about all true scotsmen make a lot more sense now mircea_popescu lol can you pass on my apologies |
15:12 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: why are you subjecting us to forum :( |
15:14 |
kakobrekla |
>A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. |
15:14 |
kakobrekla |
oh yeah, i got a huge pile of those too |
15:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
that's some heavt moderation |
15:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
heavy* |
15:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
i saw, i think it was, extrader saying he knew some way to get a "fudster" moderated |
15:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
looks like he is on th ehunt |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ipvo-multiple-exchanges-neo-bee-lmb-holdings.167762/page-217 |
15:17 |
ozbot |
[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings | Page 217 | Bitcointa.lk |
15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
better bitcointalk, basically. |
15:20 |
tg2 |
Whoa whoa hold the phone |
15:20 |
tg2 |
there's drama? On the internet? |
15:23 |
tg2 |
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/993/tumblr_m0wb2xz9Yh1r08e3p.jpg |
15:25 |
benkay |
stahp |
15:25 |
benkay |
;;ticker |
15:25 |
benkay |
.bait |
15:25 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 459.46, Best ask: 461.35, Bid-ask spread: 1.89000, Last trade: 461.35, 24 hour volume: 29874.63703293, 24 hour low: 436.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 463.247782601 |
15:25 |
ozbot |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/a61444ffeb14607d25a4f21c7c53f990/tumblr_mpg854pH0k1r62m2no1_1280.jpg |
15:25 |
benkay |
holy smokes 450? |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
is that a bvad thing ? |
15:26 |
benkay |
psh yeah doncha know bitcoins only useful when it goes up in value |
15:26 |
benkay |
aw man |
15:26 |
benkay |
in the space of 1 week i have forgotten everything about the conformal btc libs |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha check out bitcointa.lk : mpoe-pr is the only one with an avatar. |
15:45 |
BCB |
mircea_popescu, did you fund bitcointa.lk |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. |
15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
the owner linked it here a while bakc |
15:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 0.19871000 BTC to 320`500 shares, 62 satoshi per share |
16:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06353 = 0.6353 BTC [-] |
16:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0464 = 0.1392 BTC [+] |
16:15 |
steven-__ |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtrIjzsceM&feature=youtu.be&t=17m0s andreas antonopoulos doing his thing |
16:15 |
ozbot |
Is Bitcoin a flash in the pan? - Coinsumm.it - YouTube |
16:15 |
steven-__ |
couldn't help checking out a few of the talks even after reading benkays post |
16:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-] |
16:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-] |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
what, STILL ? |
16:16 |
mircea_popescu |
2011 called, it wants its rethorical questions back please. |
16:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-] |
16:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0556 = 0.1112 BTC [-] {2} |
16:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-] |
16:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62503539 BTC [-] |
16:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0062174 = 0.286 BTC [-] {3} |
16:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62503539 BTC [-] |
16:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4697 @ 0.00094301 = 4.4293 BTC [-] |
16:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62503539 = 1.8751 BTC [-] {2} |
16:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00094037 = 3.5264 BTC [-] |
16:45 |
benkay |
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Rwanda+years+later/9674013/story.html << surely this has happened before |
16:45 |
ozbot |
Rwanda: 20 years later |
16:46 |
benkay |
obviously a lot of that is NGO pearl clutching for funds. |
16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
16:47 |
cazalla |
steven-__: that guy makes me cringe |
16:47 |
benkay |
"Survivors groups worry that 20 years after the genocide, international funding will dry up completely" |
16:47 |
benkay |
le sigh |
16:50 |
the20year2 |
how many funds were made available for the holomodor? |
16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
actually people did try to donate |
16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
many us jewish people with fresh memories, plenty of others |
16:54 |
nubbins` |
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5990321#msg5990321 |
16:55 |
pankkake |
thanks |
16:55 |
pankkake |
I do know him, which is bothering me |
16:55 |
pankkake |
:( |
16:55 |
nubbins` |
never underestimate the tenacity of butthurt internet people |
16:55 |
Duffer1 |
i wrote him a haiku |
16:56 |
Duffer1 |
that dotcoin scammer talks like alberto armandi |
16:57 |
pankkake |
he told me in PM ps: i see you speak german its called " Kopffick " thats what happen to you now |
16:57 |
pankkake |
I don't speak german and google doesn't help me |
16:57 |
benkay |
on an entirely different topic, what are good "me@mydomain" emails? |
16:57 |
benkay |
not horrendously unprofessional |
16:57 |
benkay |
not stupidly web2.0 |
16:58 |
pankkake |
firstname@lastname ? |
16:58 |
benkay |
eg "me@" |
16:58 |
pankkake |
me@firstnamelastname |
16:58 |
benkay |
dorp |
16:59 |
pankkake |
or something related to what you do? say you're a plumper name joe, me@joeplumber |
16:59 |
nubbins` |
me@benkay.com |
16:59 |
benkay |
holy shit benkay.com is available |
17:00 |
nubbins` |
BETTER HURRY |
17:00 |
benkay |
first time since i got on the internet |
17:00 |
* |
nubbins` registers |
17:00 |
pankkake |
there are bots auto-registering names |
17:00 |
pankkake |
just hope they don't crawl http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ |
17:00 |
benkay |
no i have the domain, that's fine. |
17:01 |
benkay |
i'm just startled to the sushi joint's moved on from the domain in question |
17:01 |
pankkake |
I maintain links to band websites, they're replaced by spam very quickly after expiration |
17:11 |
artifexd |
benkay Do you see a problem with me@whatever.com emails? |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
"Interesting, Romain Bignon is a Python dev. Pankkake had some python work done for MP" |
17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
clearly. |
17:16 |
nubbins` |
interestingly, these idiots aren't working for scotland yard |
17:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62504019 = 3.1252 BTC [+] {3} |
17:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05699884 = 0.114 BTC [+] |
17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
well, derpland yard. just as good. |
17:28 |
nubbins` |
"perhaps we should pursue legal action" |
17:29 |
nubbins` |
yes. perhaps. |
17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
haha, they are behind 7 lawyers. |
17:29 |
nubbins` |
!! |
17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"Unless you prove otherwise I think it is fair and right that me and dotcoin both see that quite a bit of evidence points to you being Romain Bignon." |
17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
logically. |
17:29 |
nubbins` |
y'know, prove a negative |
17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
unless you bring me a praline i shall eat your cake. |
17:30 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake anyway, dun freak out. buncha forum derps. |
17:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64999977 BTC [+] |
17:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.064 = 0.256 BTC [+] |
17:31 |
pankkake |
the real issue is that it's not me they're stalking |
17:31 |
pankkake |
I'm pretty used to threats |
17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay what's wrong with initial-name@corp ? |
17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake so contact the person, offer to appear as witness, they can prolly get teh gendarmerie involved |
17:32 |
nubbins` |
honestly the oddest thing about this whole "everyone is mp" thing is that there's a much, much simpler explanation, and people just refuse to believe. seriously, as if you having a hundred sock accounts, each with a distinct writing style, is a more plausible explanation than you paying someone to post on the forums |
17:32 |
pankkake |
he's a friend |
17:32 |
benkay |
artifexd: me@whatever doesn't really convey the right image |
17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` why would i pay people to pretend they're not speaking for me ? |
17:33 |
pankkake |
and I don't want friends to be bothered |
17:33 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: i've yet to settle on a thing. canvassing people who've seen things, you see. |
17:33 |
pankkake |
of course he's also used to threats :D |
17:33 |
artifexd |
What image do you want to convey? |
17:33 |
nubbins` |
why would people think pankkake is you? |
17:33 |
benkay |
artifexd: excellent question. |
17:33 |
nubbins` |
why would anybody anything :D it boggles the mind |
17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
im kinda basking in the glory of being... mp. da fuck do i care, teh forum is going to dox the hell out of "mircea popescu is really... this romanian guy... by the name... mircea popescu" |
17:33 |
nubbins` |
^ |
17:34 |
nubbins` |
heh |
17:34 |
nubbins` |
IMPOSSIBRU |
17:34 |
nubbins` |
next you'll tell me satoshi nakam... wait. |
17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
those are the words that must never be spoken nubbins` |
17:34 |
nubbins` |
oh fuck did i let the cat out of the bag? |
17:34 |
nubbins` |
kakobrekla can you edit the logs plz |
17:35 |
nubbins` |
and thus a new conspiracy is born |
17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
in my forum reports, "ragehead scammer derping all over pankakke https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=545220.new#new" |
17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
right next to |
17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
"some noob made an anti-davout hate thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=548245.0" |
17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
what is it with you french people. |
17:37 |
pankkake |
davout has the best haters right now: http://www.actubitcoin.fr/ |
17:37 |
kakobrekla |
>French members are tired. |
17:37 |
kakobrekla |
zomg. endoftheworld.swf |
17:37 |
kakobrekla |
literally. |
17:37 |
pankkake |
you might have trouble reading his French, as he has terrible spelling |
17:37 |
kakobrekla |
with quotes. |
17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
o actu short for actuel or w/e. clever. |
17:38 |
kakobrekla |
i dunno, someone write to him to have a nap. |
17:38 |
davout |
"actu" is "news" |
17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"David Francois est née le 29 Mai 1983, âgé donc de 30 ans" why teh fag glasses davout ?! |
17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"Il est née à Leiden au Pays-Bas." |
17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
fascinating. |
17:39 |
davout |
n'est-ce pas |
17:39 |
pankkake |
so davout used to be a girl |
17:39 |
nubbins` |
heh |
17:39 |
nubbins` |
more like davPOUT, amirite? |
17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha |
17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
davpoutine |
17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
"Je soupçonne un montage fiscal permettant une fraude massive ." |
17:40 |
davout |
mircea_popescu: thanks, didn't know about the english thread |
17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
well it's good that they soup cony or whatever. |
17:41 |
nubbins` |
when i lived in ottawa, it was not uncommon for clueless anglos to approach a poutine stand and loudly declare JE VOUDRAIS UNE POUTAIN |
17:41 |
pankkake |
hahaha |
17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=545292.msg5956581#msg5956581 << check out pankkake trying to get forum noobs to pay for his nosejob :D |
17:41 |
ozbot |
ActiveMining thread mods are actively trying to scam people |
17:42 |
nubbins` |
quqbecois insert the tiniest hint of an "s" after the "t" in poutine |
17:42 |
nubbins` |
poutseen |
17:42 |
pankkake |
I have been told I have a beautiful nose |
17:42 |
pankkake |
and my nose job was an inside job |
17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha |
17:42 |
tg2 |
Somebody say poutine? |
17:42 |
pankkake |
it's call turbinoplastie |
17:42 |
pankkake |
TURBINES |
17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
rhinoturbinoplasty |
17:43 |
nubbins` |
turbhinoplasty |
17:43 |
nubbins` |
tg2 many times |
17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530306.0 |
17:43 |
ozbot |
VIRCUREX IS RUNNING WITH NEGATIVE NAV: BEWARE EVERYBODY |
17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
lalala |
17:43 |
pankkake |
last thing I did was my teeth getting scrubbed for two hours straight. it's fun |
17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess it's time for some rating |
17:43 |
pankkake |
I go back this week |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rated kumala |
17:44 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user kumala |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gpg eauth |
17:44 |
gribble |
(gpg eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. |
17:44 |
nubbins` |
one evening at a poutine stand in downtown ottawa, guy in front of me waits in line for 2-3 minutes and orders a bucket of water when his turn comes. worker says "a bucket of water? why?" |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gpg eauth mircea_popescu |
17:44 |
gribble |
Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 |
17:44 |
nubbins` |
guy responds "your garbage can is on fire" |
17:44 |
benkay |
lol canada |
17:44 |
nubbins` |
right? |
17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8668ebe8d03a1f2c32d4fc1acd38cf1a08ea8c443c55528ea0165ba4 |
17:44 |
gribble |
You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 |
17:44 |
nubbins` |
can't just bust into the front of the line :D |
17:44 |
benkay |
you people. |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate kumala -10 consumate scammer. vircurex, cryptostocks, an entire stack. |
17:45 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user kumala has been recorded. |
17:45 |
nubbins` |
i think it's "consummate" |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate kumala -10 consummate scammer. vircurex, cryptostocks, an entire stack. |
17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ty. |
17:45 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kumala has changed from -10 to -10. |
17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate hanbot 5 The forum loves her a lot. |
17:46 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user hanbot has changed from 3 to 5. |
17:46 |
pankkake |
nice nickname |
17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"When people try to launch start-up, like chronocoin in france, or beegcoin, or others, immediately, he try to attack website, he writes aggresive messages and delete topic." |
17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
for shame. |
17:49 |
davout |
many delete. such shame. wow |
17:49 |
tg2 |
That English it's for shame |
17:49 |
pankkake |
sad part is, their French isn't any better |
17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
down with this oppression from leiden! people wish to be free and launch assets! |
17:50 |
nubbins` |
"nubbins you may be asked or told to hand over this info by dotcoins lawyer, I would suggest you do that sooner rather than later." |
17:50 |
nubbins` |
my fucking SIDES |
17:50 |
nubbins` |
somebody's paying for side surgery |
17:50 |
nubbins` |
and it ain't me |
17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i ain't payin for your sides |
17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
they were broken when you got here |
17:50 |
nubbins` |
hmm, is that why they're always aching? |
17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
you're a sideist |
17:51 |
nubbins` |
better that than a frontist :D |
17:51 |
pankkake |
"NotLambchop is a Belize-registered virtual identity law firm wholly owned by TheMiracle, which represents itself and its profits. We (they) are the legal council representing pankkake et al. and others too" :D |
17:51 |
davout |
nubbins`: markus weiler, he is the archetypal village idiot |
17:51 |
tg2 |
Daveout du you even sock bro |
17:51 |
nubbins` |
;;google frontist |
17:51 |
gribble |
Frontist Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontist_Party>; AWL school: Economism and frontist delusions - Communist Party of ...: <http://www.cpgb.org.uk/home/weekly-worker/968/awl-school-economism-and-frontist-delusions>; Transverzala SREMSKI FRONT ist.deo.flv - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia9SdQwiPHg> |
17:51 |
tg2 |
learn2sock |
17:51 |
mircea_popescu |
that guy's from something awful, amusingly enough. |
17:51 |
davout |
tg2: wut |
17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
davout he's just trying to be part of the cool kids, dun fret. |
17:52 |
nubbins` |
heh |
17:52 |
nubbins` |
i like the hint of empty threat |
17:52 |
davout |
tg2: may i see your haters please? |
17:52 |
nubbins` |
you may be asked... or TOLD |
17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
"Tell you what - I'm at the UKDCA meeting in London on Monday - anyone is welcome to come and accuse me of whatever to my face, when I can likewise see your face and we can communicate like humans." |
17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
someone should go and moon him. |
17:53 |
tg2 |
I kindly direct you to benkay |
17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
"If you continue to post in the thread you will be reported to theymos who could take further action. You have already been asked to stop posting." |
17:54 |
tg2 |
Don't worry about getting ousted from the French section, the French have historically demonstrated difficulty in that field. |
17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
this is like usagi level of internet threatening |
17:55 |
nubbins` |
STOP OR I WILL TELL TUPPERWARE I MEAN THERMOS |
17:55 |
benkay |
don't forget to burp the thermos |
17:55 |
mircea_popescu |
"My father emotionally, physically and sexually abused me. I moved out at the age of seventeen, hoping to escape all the pain, only to find out that it would follow me. My psyche and boundaries were very damaged and I did not realize that because of my upbringing and appearance I attracted sexual predators. |
17:55 |
mircea_popescu |
After marrying at age twenty-one, I discovered my husband was a porn addict. So great was his sexual perversity and infidelity that I was at a loss to know what to do to save my marriage. Finally, after five years of marriage, I sought counseling from my church pastor." |
17:56 |
tg2 |
Crisse que les français sont des bébés lala |
17:56 |
mircea_popescu |
^upcoming ipo. |
17:56 |
nubbins` |
would buy |
17:56 |
benkay |
now iploling feelings |
17:56 |
tg2 |
"Mon thread d'innocent s'est fait effacer, qq" |
17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
twist : "I had no idea that this man had a history of being a sexual predator. He had been moved from church to church after each report of sexual abuse but no other action was taken, nor was the new congregation warned. After several counseling sessions he gained my trust." |
17:57 |
tg2 |
Rape magnet |
17:58 |
tg2 |
There's an app for that |
18:05 |
benkay |
candy crush 'character's on nyse for ipo? |
18:05 |
benkay |
cooooooool. |
18:05 |
benkay |
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/business/in-some-ways-its-looking-like-1999-in-the-stock-market.html |
18:05 |
the20year2 |
shock, surprise |
18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. in some ways it's looking like 1929 |
18:07 |
benkay |
"soup lines" -> "soup mobs" |
18:07 |
the20year2 |
tech may be in a bubble? No way |
18:07 |
the20year2 |
those are lies |
18:08 |
davout |
;;eauth davout |
18:08 |
gribble |
Request successful for user davout, hostmask davout!~davout@unaffiliated/davout. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/13288EAB01713428 |
18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
and by tech we mean, of course... "hey ma, i made a website" |
18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
slash iphone app |
18:09 |
benkay |
this is tech specific and not endemic to fiat-denominated stocks? |
18:09 |
nubbins` |
slash i need money for my idea |
18:09 |
* |
benkay scrambles for the 25-year s/p chart |
18:09 |
davout |
;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e0bfc984b8a7ad54d1c869b166c2bf660e57f8598a81d67ec713754c |
18:09 |
gribble |
You are now authenticated for user davout with key 13288EAB01713428 |
18:09 |
davout |
;;rated ThomasV |
18:09 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user ThomasV |
18:10 |
davout |
;;rate ThomasV 3 electrum |
18:10 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user ThomasV has been recorded. |
18:10 |
jurov |
ThomasV is etotheipi? |
18:11 |
pankkake |
etotheipi is Armory |
18:11 |
jurov |
ohhhh sry |
18:15 |
nubbins` |
i let four pounds of ground pork spoil :( |
18:17 |
the20year2 |
you terrible human |
18:17 |
the20year2 |
that could have fed a village |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
i actually feel pretty bad about it |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
i dislike wasting food |
18:17 |
deadweasel |
beef abuse |
18:18 |
deadweasel |
as if it could be abused anymore |
18:18 |
nubbins` |
pork abuse |
18:18 |
deadweasel |
oh man, the brain is replacing words again. |
18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` you don't have any cold left in canada ? |
18:20 |
nubbins` |
i ground it and then left it in the fridge for like 5 days |
18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
way i hear it works in these northern places, people just fit a box to their windowsill |
18:20 |
nubbins` |
stupid :( |
18:20 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` heh even 2 days is wrong. |
18:20 |
nubbins` |
i know D: |
18:21 |
nubbins` |
"i should freeze that" (3 days pass) |
18:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12888 @ 0.00094035 = 12.1192 BTC [-] {2} |
18:22 |
nubbins` |
http://www.guelphmercury.com/news-story/4438727-medical-marijuana-changes-must-meet-patient-needs/ |
18:22 |
ozbot |
Medical marijuana changes must meet patient needs |
18:22 |
nubbins` |
so patients who possess marijuana from the old program have been given a reprieve, and don't have to throw their old weed in the garbage just yet |
18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
they can threow it in the bong instead. |
18:23 |
nubbins` |
+1 |
18:23 |
nubbins` |
or the vaporizer! combustion is for rubes |
18:24 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/medical-marijuana-users-face-rising-price-dilemma-april-1-1.2592017 |
18:24 |
ozbot |
Medical marijuana users face rising price dilemma April 1 - British Columbia - CBC News |
18:24 |
nubbins` |
^ better source |
18:24 |
benkay |
that's like pulling just the booze out of a fine wine, nubbins`, |
18:25 |
nubbins` |
nahhh |
18:25 |
nubbins` |
vaporizing releases much more detectible flavor compounds |
18:25 |
nubbins` |
you light it on fire, all you taste is char |
18:25 |
benkay |
same with a steak! |
18:25 |
benkay |
for some value of same. |
18:25 |
nubbins` |
same with coffee! |
18:25 |
benkay |
a little burninating's fine. |
18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
this is pretty interesting : https://twitter.com/relateablefuuu/status/443142501268869120/photo/1 |
18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
guy with 600 followers and already following 2001 people somehow gets 800 retweets |
18:27 |
nubbins` |
"Alison Myrden of Burlington, Ont., says it costs just pennies for her designated grower to produce the more than 100 grams of marijuana she needs each day to relieve symptoms of multiple sclerosis and trigeminal neuralgia, a disorder of the nervous system that causes especially intense discomfort." |
18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
yet i've never heard of the post. |
18:27 |
nubbins` |
she ingests ONE HUNDRED GRAMS of marijuana. |
18:28 |
nubbins` |
A DAY. |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
could we be at the point where people actually buy fake/spam retweets to try and prop themselves into the conversation ? |
18:28 |
nubbins` |
that's a gram every ten minutes |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` well if she eats it... |
18:28 |
nubbins` |
even worse |
18:28 |
nubbins` |
eating 100g in a day? you might as well induce a coma |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
seriously, get a daily smoker to eat two grams and they'll spend the next ten hours seriously reconsidering their choice |
18:29 |
nubbins` |
i can only hope she makes a tincture or something |
18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
so she's selling it you're thinking ? |
18:30 |
peterl |
maybe she means she needs a few pennies for 100 milligrams? |
18:30 |
peterl |
units, how do they work? |
18:30 |
jurov |
don't they measure hash in libraries of congress or sth? |
18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah i doubt very much it costs a quarter per pound to make weed. |
18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
peterl prolly has it. |
18:33 |
nubbins` |
no, i don't think she's selling, it'd be too brazen. she wouldn't agree to be interviewed |
18:33 |
nubbins` |
no doubt she boils it up to make tea or some such |
18:34 |
nubbins` |
i just can't comprehend what wasteful method of preparation causes this poor woman to have to go through over a quarter pound every day of her life |
18:34 |
peterl |
maybe she just burns it as incense instead of smoking it? |
18:34 |
nubbins` |
i honestly have no idea |
18:35 |
nubbins` |
maybe her MS really is just that intense |
18:35 |
nubbins` |
i've seen people with MS who seize so bad that they can't even communicate |
18:35 |
jurov |
i think she bathes in it |
18:35 |
nubbins` |
few puffs and they can function normally |
18:35 |
nubbins` |
it's actually fucked |
18:36 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe she feeds it to her cats and then rubs them ? |
18:36 |
nubbins` |
heh. |
18:36 |
nubbins` |
animal abuse! |
18:36 |
jurov |
civet coffee comes to mind |
18:36 |
jurov |
perish the thought |
18:38 |
nubbins` |
civet coffee doesn't even taste particularly good |
18:39 |
nubbins` |
i've seen pictures of freshly-shat civet coffee covered in intestinal worms |
18:39 |
nubbins` |
protip: coffee isn't magic, you're not guaranteed a good cup just because it came from location X or was processed via method Y |
18:40 |
nubbins` |
protip: you can taste the best coffees in the world whenever you want, for $5-15 per pound |
18:40 |
nubbins` |
anyway |
18:40 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/BC/ID/2445586237/ |
18:40 |
ozbot |
Topless artist smashes ceramic breasts - CBC News Vancouver at 6 - CBC Player |
18:40 |
Diablo-D3 |
... is the name of my coldplay cover band |
18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
http://31.media.tumblr.com/a331f08b68884919ccb845a73890b6df/tumblr_mlajx5ODav1s49lc7o1_1280.jpg |
18:45 |
Mats_cd03 |
gross |
18:46 |
Mats_cd03 |
i dont need bald dudes in the same frame as the boobies |
18:52 |
nubbins` |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5991722#msg5991722 |
18:52 |
ozbot |
Threats to extort and blackmail BCT companies by the user 'pankkake' |
18:52 |
nubbins` |
such negative language |
18:52 |
nubbins` |
calling people spastics and retards ;( |
18:52 |
pankkake |
"spastic" c'est bien une insulte de rosbif |
18:53 |
Duffer1 |
the level of stupid in that thread is.. i can't even find an adequate adjective.. |
18:53 |
nubbins` |
mmhmm |
18:53 |
nubbins` |
back-to-back freakout posts |
18:53 |
nubbins` |
"here's some more shit i read on the internet, ctrl-v" |
18:54 |
nubbins` |
guy is literally falling apart at the seams |
18:54 |
nubbins` |
"And here is the body that will no doubt be in contact with you soon Pankkake" |
18:54 |
pankkake |
sounds dirty |
18:54 |
nubbins` |
yup |
18:54 |
Duffer1 |
you woud be too if you held a large stake in actm |
18:54 |
nubbins` |
plainly obvious at this point that the guy isn't going to be contacting anyone. ever. |
18:54 |
nubbins` |
if he was going to, he'd do it, rather than flapping his gums trying to scare a confession out of you |
18:55 |
pankkake |
well since he is talking about antitrust, yes - doesn't need to be a lawyer to see how offtopic it is |
18:55 |
pankkake |
but yes, typical harassment |
18:55 |
pankkake |
as long as he harasses only me… I'm ok with it |
18:55 |
Duffer1 |
antitrust != defamation |
18:56 |
pankkake |
and doesn't even concern people but businesses |
18:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62356 = 3.1178 BTC [-] {5} |
18:57 |
nubbins` |
imagine going to any sort of authority with the claim "an anonymous frenchman is saying bad things about a company i've invested in, and he says he will shut up if you pay him 30 euros" |
18:57 |
nubbins` |
DEAR GOD SIR WE WILL ASSEMBLE A TASK FORCE IMMEDIATELY |
18:58 |
nubbins` |
best part: |
18:58 |
nubbins` |
<h1>You are ALL going to pay for your own stupidity and greed soon.</h1> |
18:58 |
nubbins` |
what does that even mean D: |
18:58 |
Duffer1 |
that was the only part of pankakke's discourse that i thought was trollish lol |
18:58 |
mircea_popescu |
rosbif = roastbeef ? |
18:59 |
pankkake |
mircea_popescu: yes. a nickname for UK people |
18:59 |
Duffer1 |
"Price: 0.005 BTC per post, i.e. 1 BTC gives you 200 posts." |
18:59 |
pankkake |
so much drama for something that netted me 0 BTC |
18:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"And yes European Antitrust Laws protect companies before things happen like that here, it is not only a scandal it shows me how unprofessional and jealous you people works, there is a lot of incompetence in the room now but not on my site." |
18:59 |
mircea_popescu |
not bad. |
19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"I copy the whole IRC chat of you guys since 26.4.2013 i am sure there are so many interesting things inside." |
19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
imagine, reading the whole log. |
19:01 |
Duffer1 |
the first time i've ever heard reading the log could be a bad thing |
19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
well... it's the nature of the clueless to misrepresent. so he things it'd be a bad thing. |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
irl, either he reads it and becomes a better person or fails to read ti and well... |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
no damage. |
19:02 |
Duffer1 |
no change |
19:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.62081999 = 6.2082 BTC [-] {4} |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
And here is the body that will no doubt be in contact with you soon Pankkake: |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.autoritedelaconcurrence.fr/user/standard.php?id_rub=167&id_article=1078 |
19:02 |
mircea_popescu |
bwahahaha jesus god. |
19:04 |
Duffer1 |
it's almost hard to watch the ActM victims lash out at those who would rescue them from drowning |
19:04 |
Duffer1 |
it's tough facing the knowledge you are the cliche |
19:04 |
pankkake |
and you can't get away from it, I stopped writing in their thread but they're still mad as hell |
19:05 |
Duffer1 |
ken slaughter won't end it so they can start to grieve properly, he keeps stringing them along |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
this is pretty epic tho, the neobee bag holders and the actm bag holders gathering together in one nuclear blast of sheer rage |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
this officially beats the "bitbet followed its faq how dares it!!11" thing |
19:06 |
pankkake |
many people in common… which is kinda strange, they still had coins, and still investemed them?! |
19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake well considering how much effort they put into "outing" imaginary shills, socks etc, |
19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
and all the nonsense about autorite de la concurrence |
19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
i would imagine they're just butthurt at what they imagine is unfair competition. ie, they were shilling for a bunch of scams, the scams went nowhere. |
19:08 |
pankkake |
and they ignored the stuff I found about ken's past get rich quick businesses :( |
19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
you must have been doing the same thing, they figure, and also for some scams (they figure, cause nothing else exists in the world) |
19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
consequently, you... um... you took their jerbs |
19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
so no, they never invested anything. they had hopes of being paid by the scammors. which they're not getting. |
19:09 |
Duffer1 |
i think stuart is a genuine bagholder, i think minerpart is one of the slaughter family, i think that coindesk guy is a scammer |
19:10 |
mircea_popescu |
you may be right. |
19:10 |
CheckDavid |
I don't understand scamming |
19:10 |
CheckDavid |
Such a waste of talent |
19:10 |
CheckDavid |
Or time |
19:11 |
CheckDavid |
In case of talentless scammers |
19:11 |
mircea_popescu |
CheckDavid people that have a problem with authority usually end up toiling on their own. |
19:11 |
mircea_popescu |
there's some discussion of the scammer as a tragic figure in the logs but i'm kinda too lazy to hunt for it. |
19:11 |
CheckDavid |
I see. As in a profile? |
19:12 |
CheckDavid |
You were profiling the a average scammer? |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
sort-of |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake what i don't understand of all this is... why do you pm with these dorks ? |
19:12 |
pankkake |
they PM me |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
even so. |
19:13 |
pankkake |
I finally stopped caring and they suck me back in :( |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` why is your forum avatar so angry ? |
19:13 |
pankkake |
fuck that shit! |
19:13 |
Duffer1 |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5992419#msg5992419 |
19:13 |
ozbot |
Threats to extort and blackmail BCT companies by the user 'pankkake' |
19:13 |
Duffer1 |
lmao |
19:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.063 = 0.189 BTC [-] {2} |
19:14 |
mircea_popescu |
davout wait wait WAIT! they actually used a pic of gainsbourg as part of doxxing one of you two ?! |
19:15 |
pankkake |
no |
19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
aww pity. |
19:15 |
mircea_popescu |
something like this'd kick ass. |
19:16 |
pankkake |
they didn't even link the openbsd poster with you |
19:16 |
mircea_popescu |
especially if it were someone obscenely famous, dali, warhol... |
19:16 |
mircea_popescu |
we could have a super secret super club, like the mile high club, except more nerdy. "people who have been made famous by misdoxxing" |
19:16 |
CryptX |
!ticker h peta |
19:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:PETA] 1D: 0.06050000 / 0.06346524 / 0.06994775 (254 shares, 16.12017208 BTC), 7D: 0.05950000 / 0.06851882 / 0.07499085 (2012 shares, 137.85986461 BTC), 30D: 0.05950000 / 0.07277824 / 0.11379998 (7599 shares, 553.04185941 BTC) |
19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
turbo_ac100 by the way, this reminds me, what happened wit the firefox bitbet plugin ? |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
21:00:33 pankkake: just hope they don't crawl http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
not only crawled man full downloaded by me and given to police next days! |
19:19 |
benkay |
openbsd poster? |
19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
o look. les flics gotta read 98794387593725 mp lines now. |
19:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62000001 BTC [-] |
19:21 |
benkay |
pankkake: poster? |
19:22 |
mwashaka |
whats looking better, AM or PETA? |
19:22 |
pankkake |
in a posted pic… maybe it was removed (hopefully) |
19:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00644994 = 0.3612 BTC [+] {4} |
19:23 |
pankkake |
mircea_popescu: and the quote is out of context :( it was about domain bots |
19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake i expected no less. |
19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
mwashaka remind me, what's peta do ? |
19:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00646347 = 0.2973 BTC [+] {5} |
19:23 |
mwashaka |
mining op |
19:24 |
mwashaka |
run by CryptX |
19:24 |
mwashaka |
Peta-Mine |
19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rated cryptx |
19:24 |
Duffer1 |
is there !bash for bitcointalk? |
19:24 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/retained-cto-first-public-commission-other-statements/#comment-93626 |
19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
now i broke gribble ;/ |
19:25 |
nubbins` |
it's because nobody's ponying up their fuckin taxes |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
lawl |
19:25 |
nubbins` |
granted, the game ended up being called eulora, so i guess it's moot anyway |
19:27 |
nubbins` |
man, that stuart guy is really unpleasant |
19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
mwashaka so they say they bought some bitfury chips and sorta-kinda pay out about 50% of whatever "investors" invest |
19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280570.msg3060507#msg3060507 that post controls. |
19:27 |
ozbot |
[BTC-TC] CryptX introduces the PETA-MINE - 18,000 CHIPS IN SEPTEMBER/UPDATE |
19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
am is dubious at this point, but at least it has an actual history. |
19:28 |
mwashaka |
ahhh that was the old mine |
19:28 |
mwashaka |
it has been redone since |
19:28 |
mwashaka |
hashing at 150TH/s now |
19:28 |
mwashaka |
have orders for a further 600 TH/s |
19:28 |
mwashaka |
it looks good |
19:28 |
mwashaka |
b |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda besides the point. a history of not respecting contracts isn't washed away by adding more numbers. |
19:29 |
mwashaka |
but im not really in with AsicMiner, but it seems good what they are doing |
19:29 |
mwashaka |
ahh |
19:29 |
mwashaka |
are you saying CryptX has a history of not delivering? |
19:30 |
nubbins` |
ah, i forgot about those guys |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
mwashaka it' |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
s just another one instance of the scammy forum asset. |
19:30 |
nubbins` |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280570.msg3063649#msg3063649 |
19:30 |
ozbot |
[BTC-TC] CryptX introduces the PETA-MINE - 18,000 CHIPS IN SEPTEMBER/UPDATE |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
for as long as btc inflows stay net positive it'll be ok im sure. |
19:30 |
nubbins` |
heh |
19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` shocking how that 50% thing works innit. |
19:31 |
nubbins` |
like sticking your peepee in a light socket |
19:32 |
mwashaka |
thanks both, this is a great insight |
19:32 |
mwashaka |
think i will lean towards AsicMiner until they are more transparent, as that is my current issue with them |
19:32 |
nubbins` |
!t h peta |
19:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:PETA] 1D: 0.06050000 / 0.06346524 / 0.06994775 (254 shares, 16.12017208 BTC), 7D: 0.05950000 / 0.06851882 / 0.07499085 (2012 shares, 137.85986461 BTC), 30D: 0.05950000 / 0.07274519 / 0.11379998 (7592 shares, 552.28145936 BTC) |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
now, as far as asicminer goes, it's been a great asset so far, however, it's not without its problems |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
so do your reading etc. |
19:33 |
mwashaka |
i will do, thank you both, its much appreciated |
19:33 |
mwashaka |
mircea, are you MPOE-PR on BTT? |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
no, mpoe-pr is my pr chick |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
it says so right in her sig you know ? |
19:34 |
mwashaka |
nope, just somthing hit me, thought for a split second you were the same person |
19:34 |
mwashaka |
shes a bitch, but she knows her shit :) |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda the hiring criteria. |
19:34 |
mwashaka |
i like |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway. never trust a self-moderated thread. |
19:35 |
nubbins` |
^ |
19:35 |
nubbins` |
never trust a computer |
19:36 |
nubbins` |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdkl7mkleuE |
19:36 |
ozbot |
MONSTERBATOR ~ Never Trust a Computer - YouTube |
19:44 |
turbo_ac100 |
mircea_popescu: forgot about the plugin. |
19:44 |
turbo_ac100 |
It should look like this: http://pastebin.com/73urimLq |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
o its like a bookmarklet or w/e they're called ? |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty cool |
19:45 |
turbo_ac100 |
see here http://mycroftproject.com/submitos.html |
19:45 |
pankkake |
OpenSearch? |
19:45 |
turbo_ac100 |
yes |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
you gonna dump your refling into the results ? |
19:46 |
turbo_ac100 |
not yet. good idea though |
19:53 |
turbo_ac100 |
kakobrekla: you are developing bibet? If you want to go wild add suggestions to the search. |
19:54 |
turbo_ac100 |
reason: "This is currently only supported by a few of the largest websites. An example of a working value is: http://suggestqueries.google.com/complete/search?output=firefox&client=firefox&hl=en&q={searchTerms}" |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
o that's interesting |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
so it needs a suggestqueries subdomain and what, json output ? or ? |
19:56 |
turbo_ac100 |
doesn't say. |
19:58 |
turbo_ac100 |
response body is json http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/Extensions/Suggestions/1.0 |
20:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5262 @ 0.00093908 = 4.9414 BTC [-] |
20:00 |
kakobrekla |
http://shreyaschand.com/blog/2013/01/03/google-autocomplete-api/ |
20:00 |
ozbot |
Google Autocomplete "API" | Shreyas Chand |
20:00 |
kakobrekla |
this is not aware of context |
20:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00094064 = 20.0356 BTC [+] {2} |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21qvlj/havelock_investments_halts_neo_bee_fund_trading/cgfrvfz |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
funny how nobody has no connections to anything ever. |
20:09 |
mircea_popescu |
all this forum shit starts with a lot of support that on examination consists of wtf. |
20:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00094301 = 9.2415 BTC [+] |
20:14 |
nubbins` |
ah, to be a fly on the wall |
20:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8698 @ 0.00093905 = 8.1679 BTC [-] |
20:17 |
jurov |
oooh our next generation emerging scamchange owner dotcoin aka markus weiler got into some mudfights? |
20:18 |
nubbins` |
yeah, apparently i've been advised to figure out who the guy's lawyer is and present myself to him |
20:18 |
jurov |
you knew he added securities to bitcoinbourse? |
20:18 |
jurov |
another "next mpex" |
20:22 |
jurov |
it's behind registration, so for sake of record i'll list what he trades there: |
20:22 |
jurov |
Symbol: BBS Bitcoin Bourse System Shares |
20:22 |
jurov |
Investor Info: https://bitcoinbourse.eu/investor |
20:22 |
jurov |
Symbol: TBN The Bitcoin News Shares |
20:22 |
jurov |
Investor Info: http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/investor-relations/ |
20:23 |
jurov |
Symbol: BCS BitcoinCard® Shares |
20:23 |
jurov |
Investor Info: http://bitcointocard.com/BCS_IPO.pdf |
20:23 |
jurov |
Symbol: ___ Announcement 2 April 2014 |
20:23 |
jurov |
Investor Info: http://# |
20:25 |
jurov |
that's all so far. No public trading data advertised or even graphs shown. |
20:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00093905 = 17.3724 BTC [-] |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoin news shares ? |
20:29 |
mircea_popescu |
how does bitcoin news generate revenue |
20:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25238 @ 0.00094152 = 23.7621 BTC [+] |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google site:uspto.gov BitcoinCard |
20:30 |
gribble |
No matches found. |
20:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess nobody told 'em ® is not merely a good looking special glyph |
20:31 |
pankkake |
time to call the AntiTrust Brigade |
20:32 |
pankkake |
how does bitcoin news generate revenue => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkA9L2J2gY |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, i think bitbet made a whole btc out of advertising so far |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
over about a year. |
20:34 |
pankkake |
also bitcoiners === likely to have adblock |
20:34 |
pankkake |
or lynx |
20:35 |
nubbins` |
or lawyers on speed dial |
20:35 |
nubbins` |
wait... |
20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
ha ha |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i am behind 7 layers |
20:36 |
jurov |
judging from http://bitcoinsarl.fr/ , the ___ is gonna be cryptotu.be IPO |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, the entire drama with pankkake and davout in the forums was simply some french dork's idea of how to launch yet another wannabe-mpex thing ? |
20:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00619799 = 0.2045 BTC [-] {5} |
20:37 |
pankkake |
german incorporated in france |
20:37 |
jurov |
mircea yes |
20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty sad. |
20:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 132 @ 0.00616322 = 0.8135 BTC [-] {7} |
20:38 |
jurov |
it's actually meta-wannabe thing, he seems very productive |
20:38 |
kakobrekla |
well as it turns out to be i havent managed to figure out who suggested to put up the wiki |
20:38 |
kakobrekla |
but here you go http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/ |
20:38 |
mircea_popescu |
where's that nubbins` quote ? "if their business was doing something pointless they'd be doing it very well" |
20:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 193 @ 0.0060783 = 1.1731 BTC [-] {4} |
20:39 |
* |
nubbins` gestures towards log |
20:39 |
kakobrekla |
please pm me to set up an account, must have WOT |
20:39 |
nubbins` |
ctrl-f, magazine |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i cant find an "edit" button |
20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
a, i was gonna vandalize it ;/ |
20:40 |
nubbins` |
not sure what this wiki is for |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
me either. |
20:40 |
kakobrekla |
http://piratepad.net/or1RSxpueo |
20:40 |
ozbot |
PiratePad: or1RSxpueo |
20:40 |
kakobrekla |
this goes there |
20:40 |
kakobrekla |
+- |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe to give more avenues of haxxorage on b-a.com ? |
20:41 |
kakobrekla |
its all contained |
20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla hehe ok. but what's the idea, give me like an usecase for the wiki |
20:42 |
kakobrekla |
for when the newbies come and ask "can you give me reading material and not the log" |
20:42 |
nubbins` |
ah |
20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5993394#msg5993394 << see, now that's a paid troll on point and good at what he does. rapid, efficient, a wonder to behold. not like the rest of you bums |
20:42 |
ozbot |
[IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings |
20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
what am i even paying you for! |
20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla a so it's not a bitbet thing |
20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
for some reason i was thinking that |
20:43 |
kakobrekla |
O_o |
20:43 |
pankkake |
maybe a collective Trilema TL;DR |
20:43 |
nubbins` |
you're paying me?! :0 |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. TCTTLDR |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
The Collective Trilema Too Long Didn't Romprehend |
20:45 |
mircea_popescu |
course... it'd kinda put the various btcnews sites out of business, so i understand now what this is all about. you're all trying to sabotage bitcoinsarl, jarl and etc. |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, as encouragement, i'll gift either 100k ATC or 0.1 BTC for the best article there. |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
winner's choice. |
20:46 |
jurov |
hi dotcoin |
20:46 |
dotcoin |
hi jurov |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you two know each other ? |
20:46 |
dotcoin |
why talking so bad about me |
20:47 |
jurov |
i§m his happy shareholder |
20:47 |
dotcoin |
yes we know i think |
20:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72250 @ 0.00094469 = 68.2539 BTC [+] {5} |
20:47 |
jurov |
since before bitcoinbourse launch |
20:47 |
dotcoin |
yes happy shareholders not accuse the company of scam |
20:47 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gettrust dotcoin |
20:47 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user dotcoin: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=dotcoin | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dotcoin | Rated since: never |
20:48 |
mircea_popescu |
you seem to be having a bit of a problem there dotcoin. |
20:48 |
dotcoin |
do you think so |
20:48 |
dotcoin |
i think there are some other guys have much more problems than me |
20:49 |
dotcoin |
so tell me guys where is the problem |
20:49 |
nubbins` |
hey |
20:49 |
nubbins` |
dotcoin! my friend! |
20:49 |
nubbins` |
your lawyer got in touch with me |
20:49 |
nubbins` |
i gave him all the info i had about pankkake |
20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
dotcoin inasmuch as you're trying to start some sort of exchange with no experience and no web of trust presence... |
20:50 |
dotcoin |
i am not your friend nubbins nor i want your friend |
20:50 |
dotcoin |
you think i have no experience? as you all guys runs many exchanges here i see |
20:51 |
dotcoin |
or any other usefull stuff |
20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, we run teh bitcoin. |
20:51 |
dotcoin |
you run the bitcoin |
20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
how useful it is however... it's kinda debatable. |
20:51 |
dotcoin |
for one is more and for the other less |
20:51 |
nubbins` |
dotcoin we are not friends? |
20:52 |
dotcoin |
but classifieds this me or my company as a scammer |
20:52 |
nubbins` |
your lawyer was nice. you are not as nice as your lawyer. |
20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
he has a lawyer ?! |
20:52 |
dotcoin |
nubbins stop talk to me please you are simple little trol not talking with you |
20:53 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5990995#msg5990995 |
20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
dotcoin ok but you have a lawyer / |
20:53 |
nubbins` |
says there he has a lawyer |
20:53 |
dotcoin |
i have a lawyer you too |
20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what's his name ? |
20:54 |
dotcoin |
you can read when you in problems with me on the letter he will send you |
20:54 |
Duffer1 |
hi dotcoin |
20:54 |
nubbins` |
how in the world is your lawyer going to send a letter to me :( |
20:54 |
dotcoin |
but what is now the problems here is there any serious discussion |
20:54 |
dotcoin |
or what is here on |
20:54 |
dotcoin |
why you troll companies in forums |
20:54 |
nubbins` |
dotcoin, what is your native language? (just curious) |
20:54 |
jurov |
dotcoin, you refused to say anything about what was doen with bitcoins from bourse IPO |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
... so do you have a lawyer or don't you. |
20:55 |
dotcoin |
pankkake |
20:55 |
bounce |
"pankkake" is a language now? |
20:55 |
jurov |
that's even less than several known scammers |
20:55 |
jurov |
so for me, your case is clear |
20:55 |
nubbins` |
pankkake is the language of love |
20:55 |
nubbins` |
aka body language |
20:55 |
dotcoin |
so what is the case jurov |
20:56 |
kakobrekla |
the bourse thingy was german iirc |
20:56 |
dotcoin |
the case is you are friend of martin and he is not happy to get out of bourse right? |
20:56 |
dotcoin |
what he told you this man |
20:56 |
jurov |
martin is irrelevant here |
20:56 |
jurov |
you raised hunders of BTC |
20:56 |
jurov |
and they are not heard of since |
20:57 |
dotcoin |
hundrets |
20:57 |
jurov |
*hundreds |
20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` linguistix specialist says probably dutch or german. |
20:57 |
nubbins` |
ah |
20:57 |
dotcoin |
you even know how much we raised |
20:57 |
nubbins` |
don't panic, i'm only germanic |
20:57 |
kanzure |
i think i killed gribble :( |
20:57 |
BingoBoingo |
dotcoin: Why do you have a lawyer? |
20:58 |
nubbins` |
i don't think he has a lawyer |
20:58 |
dotcoin |
and if so what is the problem about a IPO is to raise money or not |
20:58 |
jurov |
wont gonna look it up, i know i am not getting answer anyway |
20:58 |
dotcoin |
so jurov tell me please what is your problem now |
20:58 |
jurov |
you are eliza |
20:58 |
jurov |
? |
20:58 |
jurov |
tell me about your parents? |
20:58 |
dotcoin |
eliza? |
20:58 |
jurov |
etc? |
20:59 |
dotcoin |
are you drunk |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
kanzure what did you do ? |
20:59 |
jurov |
i explained my problem clearly |
20:59 |
jurov |
last time: 1. you raised bitcoins |
20:59 |
dotcoin |
not real you tell me i rais hundrets of bitcoins and ? |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo lawyers are like girlfriends, except better. everyone should have a few. |
21:00 |
jurov |
2. built crappy website but never disclosed how many of them were used in the process |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
https://github.com/dotcoin?tab=activity < da hell is this thing anyway ? |
21:00 |
jurov |
3. want moar |
21:00 |
dotcoin |
and you want to know where they are gone? |
21:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1995 @ 0.00094702 = 1.8893 BTC [+] |
21:00 |
Juelcf |
the new bourse website looks good and works good |
21:00 |
dotcoin |
what do you think where they are gone? |
21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
dotcoin how about this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361852.0 |
| |
↖ |
21:00 |
Duffer1 |
MP i'm thinking french |
21:01 |
dotcoin |
do you think you create site like we have and without paying anything |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently you issued stock, then did a forced buyback at a loss. |
21:01 |
kakobrekla |
spent them for dotcoin mansion |
21:01 |
dotcoin |
do you het it for free anywhere in the world? |
21:01 |
jurov |
i have to guess? blow and hookers? |
21:01 |
Juelcf |
You guys talk so much shit its amazing |
21:01 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
21:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2304 @ 0.00012063 = 0.2779 BTC [-] {8} |
21:01 |
nubbins` |
dotcoin: WOW, you did a forced buyback at a loss? |
21:01 |
dotcoin |
whaamazing company yes |
21:01 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
21:01 |
dotcoin |
show me a better one |
21:02 |
nubbins` |
Juelcf: hi |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
dotcoin you have this strange comparison to the mean mentality. |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't really matter what you perceive the average to be. the idea is to stand out at the top not to muddle around the middle. |
21:04 |
dotcoin |
a so jurov i want to tell you what ever your friend martin lies to you is not the truth, and to accuse me for scam in this case in forums is not the best way to hear the other site of this story between martin and me, you are shareholder you try now to accuse me of scam so what i have think about that? do you think is a productive way for your shares? more than i not scam any |
21:04 |
nubbins`_ |
who's martin? |
21:04 |
jurov |
i want numbers, not story |
21:05 |
dotcoin |
i am a real person i not hide behind aliases and be in a forum a super hero member |
21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
so what is your name ? |
21:05 |
nubbins`_ |
i think his real name is Dot Coin |
21:05 |
dotcoin |
all of you guys can meet me if you wan and we can discuss |
21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
isn't that patented by some fatass in new zealand ? |
21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
dotcoin yes, we can. so what's your name ? |
21:06 |
nubbins`_ |
not exactly but you can still be prosecuted under the Analogue Act |
21:06 |
jurov |
nubbins`_: martin is our mutual acquaintance that was supposed to be cofounder of bitcoin bourse and helped me to decide to invest there |
21:06 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ident dotcoin |
21:06 |
jurov |
later martin quit |
21:06 |
nubbins`_ |
ah |
21:06 |
dotcoin |
cofounder of bitcoin bourse hahaha |
21:06 |
nubbins`_ |
sort of like thickasthieves and neobee? |
21:06 |
gribble |
Nick 'dotcoin', with hostmask 'dotcoin!5d10ab35@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.16.171.53', is not identified. |
21:06 |
* |
nubbins`_ cackles loudly |
21:06 |
dotcoin |
martin quit hahaha |
21:06 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov would this be foresnick or some other guy ? |
21:06 |
jurov |
yes forensick |
21:06 |
dotcoin |
sorry man you are full wrong informed |
21:06 |
Duffer1 |
Markus Weiler? |
21:07 |
dotcoin |
yes is the forensick guy |
21:07 |
dotcoin |
yes Markus Weiler |
21:07 |
mike_c_s |
this cost money? https://bitcoinbourse.eu/ |
21:07 |
dotcoin |
and you Duffer 1? |
21:07 |
jurov |
and who are you then? |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
Duffer1 well we don't know. guy has a lawyer he can't name and doesn't hide behind nicks but can't introduce himself. |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
a bit of a conundrum so far. |
21:07 |
jurov |
forensick is martin belobrat and YOU are markus weiler |
21:07 |
nubbins`_ |
mike_c that website looks like it cost about $5 to make |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c not everyone has python developers at their beak and call. |
21:07 |
mike_c |
apparently |
21:07 |
nubbins`_ |
ah |
21:07 |
nubbins`_ |
Markus Weiler! |
21:08 |
dotcoin |
yes ok now all people can call me Markus Weiler if you are more happy with that |
21:08 |
dotcoin |
Mr for some of you huys |
21:08 |
nubbins`_ |
heh |
21:08 |
dotcoin |
specialy for the trolls without name |
21:08 |
kakobrekla |
;;google Markus Weiler |
21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, so you're markus weiler and you try to run bitcoinbourse. |
21:08 |
peterl |
"i am a real person i not hide behind aliases and be in a forum a super hero member" says a guy named "dotcoin"? |
21:08 |
kakobrekla |
no gribble :\ |
21:08 |
gribble |
Prof. Dr. Markus Weiler — Professur für Hydrologie: <https://www.hydro.uni-freiburg.de/staff/weiler>; Markus Weiler - Google Scholar Citations: <http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=A-2xovMAAAAJ&hl=en>; mweiler (Markus Weiler) on deviantART: <http://mweiler.deviantart.com/> |
21:08 |
jurov |
^ typical communication style. no help there |
21:08 |
jurov |
goodnight |
21:08 |
kakobrekla |
a there you are |
21:08 |
kakobrekla |
dr? |
21:08 |
kakobrekla |
nah |
21:08 |
dotcoin |
so what now jurov |
21:09 |
kakobrekla |
must be wrong guy |
21:09 |
nubbins`_ |
^ |
21:09 |
Duffer1 |
dotcoin I was just reading https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361852.msg4729286#msg4729286 wasn't sure if that was your name or not. Call me Matt :) |
21:09 |
nubbins`_ |
Call me on my birthday |
21:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00094769 = 4.7858 BTC [+] |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
dotcoin so now we get to the part where you issued a stock on cryptostocks and then did a forced buyback for a lower price. |
21:09 |
nubbins`_ |
oh my god, Markus Weiler did a forced buyback of stock? |
21:10 |
dotcoin |
make a force back i think was for 1 share so can be yes |
21:10 |
nubbins`_ |
at a lower price?! |
21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
dotcoin it's in the link above. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2014#594053 |
21:11 |
Duffer1 |
who was running the pass through? |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
please let it be usagi ? |
21:11 |
dotcoin |
if this one user have a loss will pay him if contact me, ask now why make a force back buy, tell you martin the friend of jurov told me we must sell shares there, as we not have need, this i stop trading on cryptostocks that was simple and not any to to i rip of a guy of 0.0005 btc |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
can you write that out again but in your native language ? |
21:11 |
nubbins`_ |
en francais svp! |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
it made no sense in english ; i can probably read it in whatever it is you speak. |
21:12 |
dotcoin |
i am not francais man i am german and i am sure nobody of you guys speak german |
21:12 |
nubbins`_ |
in deutsche bitte! |
21:12 |
dotcoin |
Fuer dich gerne in deutsch |
21:13 |
dotcoin |
stell deine frage in deutsch |
21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ja, Deutsch wird hier gesprochen |
21:13 |
bounce |
eutelsat netblock. talk about being out in the boonies. |
21:13 |
dotcoin |
ja na dann mal los |
21:13 |
nubbins`_ |
danke, ihr englisch ist schwer zu verstehen ;( |
21:13 |
dotcoin |
genau wie ihr deutsch |
21:13 |
benkay |
http://i.imgur.com/nAgQ7.jpg |
21:14 |
jurov |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347347.0 here you said you are markus weiler |
21:14 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin SARL Infoletter 26/11/13 |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay fuck, she beats my redheads |
21:14 |
dotcoin |
yes jurov still i am |
21:14 |
nubbins`_ |
sea salt & black pepper on popcorn? sigh |
21:15 |
Duffer1 |
i'd eat that |
21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`_ and lymph |
21:15 |
Duffer1 |
Ich würde das essen |
21:15 |
benkay |
i'll let you know when i find the moose sausage popcorn, nubbins` |
21:17 |
benkay |
let's keep this one in reserve for when the SEC gets you, mircea_popescu http://destroyed-and-abandoned.tumblr.com/image/81101546098 |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
so dramatique |
21:18 |
Duffer1 |
has there been any followup to that? |
21:18 |
dotcoin |
ok jurov i guess if you have any questions about anything, you have my email and i am sure you aware of daily newsletters |
21:18 |
kakobrekla |
lel |
21:19 |
kakobrekla |
you didnt give any answers dotcoin |
21:19 |
kakobrekla |
now im curioal. |
21:19 |
dotcoin |
i give not answers about what kakobrekla |
21:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00602001 = 0.6742 BTC [-] {2} |
21:19 |
Juelcf |
i would like to know also what the fuck is going on here |
21:20 |
dotcoin |
i answer and some people want talk with me german so what now |
21:20 |
kakobrekla |
you were asked to type what you typed in german |
21:20 |
kakobrekla |
so do it |
21:20 |
Duffer1 |
hi Juelcf |
21:20 |
dotcoin |
google translate i not want wast more time |
21:20 |
Juelcf |
Hi |
21:21 |
kakobrekla |
like talking to a can of worms. |
21:21 |
dotcoin |
serious people here can join our newsletter than they will informed http://thebictoinnews.co.uk and people with problems or questions can contact me by email contact@bitcoinsarl.fr |
21:21 |
Duffer1 |
are you not entertained |
21:22 |
Duffer1 |
.fr? |
21:22 |
Duffer1 |
nm |
21:24 |
dotcoin |
n8 |
21:24 |
kakobrekla |
anyway i tried google trasnlate eng -> eng and it doesnt fix your garbage |
21:24 |
kakobrekla |
also brb |
21:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00094708 = 6.2034 BTC [-] |
21:27 |
nubbins`_ |
mircea_popescu: sea salt, black pepper, and lymph on popcorn?! |
21:27 |
Juelcf |
whats the deal with dotcoin? why was everyone trolling? |
21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
Juelcf who exactly was trolling ? and who exactly are you ? |
21:28 |
benkay |
not really trolling. dotcoin's being evasive and the channel kinda got pissed. |
21:28 |
Duffer1 |
the engrish doesn't help either |
21:28 |
Juelcf |
mircea_popescu, just asking |
21:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24562 @ 0.00094807 = 23.2865 BTC [+] {2} |
21:28 |
Duffer1 |
no offense |
21:29 |
nubbins`_ |
obv a machine translation job |
21:30 |
Duffer1 |
juelcf it started with pankkake calling foul on a couple of dubious offerings by dotcoin |
21:30 |
Duffer1 |
then came to a head today as dotcoin threatened to sue pankkake |
21:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.05683845 = 0.7389 BTC [-] {4} |
21:31 |
bounce |
well, maybe we need a virtual courts of teh intarwebz, where you can sue WoT usernames and such. |
21:31 |
bounce |
s/ a // |
21:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05699999 = 0.228 BTC [+] {3} |
21:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0459 = 0.3672 BTC [-] |
21:33 |
peterl |
didnt they have a Rota for that sort of thing? |
21:33 |
nubbins`_ |
heh |
21:33 |
BingoBoingo |
I suppose a good rule of thumb for any court would be that parties wanting redress from Pankkake are prolly in the wrong |
21:33 |
nubbins`_ |
peterl it got too real too quick |
21:33 |
peterl |
what is the use of such a thing if it is not real? |
21:33 |
nubbins`_ |
no use |
21:35 |
nubbins`_ |
fun fact, ROTA was an acronym for Rand of the Ayn |
21:36 |
bounce |
no idea what that is and it already smells like WTMI |
21:36 |
nubbins`_ |
;;ud wtmi |
21:36 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wtmi | wtmi. Way to much information. Often used by women(and somethimes men) to pronounce that something is indeed gross or sickening and they dont want to ... |
21:36 |
ozbot |
Urban Dictionary: wtmi |
21:37 |
BingoBoingo |
I thought ROTA was an acronym for Round, Oiled, Tense, Asses |
21:37 |
nubbins`_ |
heh. |
21:37 |
nubbins`_ |
too many commas, otherwise ok |
21:39 |
cazalla |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5993297#msg5993297 |
21:39 |
nubbins` |
1-855-one-bitcoin |
21:39 |
nubbins` |
or, if you're in a rush, 1-855-one-bitc |
21:39 |
nubbins` |
lelelel |
21:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21844 @ 0.00094708 = 20.688 BTC [-] |
21:42 |
cazalla |
"Lol, wrapped some cardboard boxes in inkjet-printed labels, and took a pic of one HF board? Awesome." top kek |
21:42 |
nubbins` |
"let's use a cell phone camera for the photos for our big announcement" |
21:43 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a slow drama day, so let's lol at people. http://trilema.com/2014/a-sad-story-illustrated/ |
21:44 |
nubbins` |
fuck-the-cops.biz! |
21:44 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce we had something like that, as peterl points out. it failed miserably. http://trilema.com/rota-post-mortem |
21:45 |
mircea_popescu |
and it wasn't no acronim |
21:45 |
asciilifeform |
in other news, my site (should anyone give a damn) is back. |
21:45 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google tribunal apostolicum rotae romanae |
21:45 |
gribble |
Roman Rota - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Rota>; Rota Background - CanonLaw.info: <http://www.canonlaw.info/personal_rotademo.htm>; Addresses of courts - Arcibiskupství pražské: <http://www.apha.cz/en/addresses-of-courts-text> |
21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` ghetto huh. |
21:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4702 @ 0.00094823 = 4.4586 BTC [+] |
21:47 |
nubbins` |
who knows, maybe they couldn't afford a $99 samsung point-and-shoot because they spent every last dime on legitimate businessy things |
21:47 |
peterl |
Some cell phones these days have very nice cameras |
21:47 |
mircea_popescu |
http/hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Yoli-Evo-board_FINAL-white-WEB-e1392926017925.png |
21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
this shit looks quite aesthetically pleasing |
21:48 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: cut&paste in cad proggy will do that. symmetric. |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
also the central thing. |
21:49 |
asciilifeform |
that multi-die beast looks like a thermal nightmare though |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
it does yeah |
21:49 |
asciilifeform |
why cram them in one? |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
imo it's horrid design, you'd have wanted the 4 separated towards corners or something |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
is the author here? |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
but forget the sanity. it pleaseth my eye |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
ok i think i get it! |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
look at the 'octopus' |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
it's designed to fit an intel heat sink. |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
hence the quad die. |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
like a girl on 7 inchers. you know she's in pain and likely can't run... but damn that ass. |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
it wants to have the same mechanicals as a 'xeon' |
21:50 |
mircea_popescu |
oh |
21:51 |
mircea_popescu |
who knows, that may work cheaper |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
cheaper than having your own heat sinks cast, yes |
21:51 |
asciilifeform |
esp. if you like hydraulic strange |
21:52 |
asciilifeform |
the 6-pin molexes are probably intel's 'p4' too. |
21:54 |
kakobrekla |
these are apparently water cooled as well |
21:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11930 @ 0.00094906 = 11.3223 BTC [+] {2} |
21:57 |
pankkake |
I can take better pics of my Data Center: https://unsee.cc/beziru/ |
21:59 |
asciilifeform |
whatever happened to those folks who sold a $3k (usd) pc chassis-cum-heatsink of solid copper, weighing as much as a man ? |
21:59 |
asciilifeform |
'zalman' i think it was. |
22:00 |
pankkake |
I'm not sure they actually sold it |
22:00 |
nubbins` |
seems to me like if you remove the per-case judge payment and stick to the yearly sum, the rota would involve a whole lot less QQing |
22:01 |
asciilifeform |
shame. i have this ancient crackpot dream of being rid of pc fans. |
22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` wouldn't have had any impact in the matter that sunk it |
22:02 |
pankkake |
there are some passive heatsinks though |
22:02 |
pankkake |
huge aluminum stuff - but they tell you to have case fans though |
22:02 |
asciilifeform |
pankkake: show a 100% passive cooled machine that isn't a toy |
22:02 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu well pretty hard to buy off judges if the judges don't get paid any extra for taking the case |
22:02 |
pankkake |
I guess you can do it if you underclock |
22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` ... |
22:03 |
nubbins` |
unless i'm missing something |
22:03 |
pankkake |
I solved the fan issue by putting the machines in another room than the one I'm in |
22:04 |
asciilifeform |
pankkake: i'm about to rent a whole building instead of flat, partly so i can do just this |
22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
well you are. inasmuch the defendant passively receives X btc and is then required to return X+e, the entire thing is an extraction engine |
22:04 |
pankkake |
though the real annoyance always was the noise of hard drives |
22:04 |
asciilifeform |
but fans still suck in dirt, fail without warning, etc |
22:04 |
pankkake |
yeah, my GPU fan died, and those aren't easy to replace :( |
22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the correct solution to the fan problem is to use fanned tubes |
22:04 |
nubbins` |
what's "e", effort? |
22:04 |
pankkake |
back to the slower passive gpu, which at least still works |
22:05 |
mircea_popescu |
all fans in a tube can't fail at the same time |
22:05 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` epsilon |
22:05 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: apple is selling, i think, a machine of just this shape. but, as you can probably guess, i'd rather not buy it. |
22:05 |
pankkake |
my case has filters, the case wasn't that dusty after months of operation |
22:06 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: in the post mortem example, all i see is: mpex receives 100btc, mpex returns 100btc, mpex pays judges 3btc each |
22:06 |
asciilifeform |
http://bensbargains.net/thecheckout/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/mac-pro-cigar.jpg |
22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder why there doesn't exist some sort of magnetic heat extractor device! |
22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` so what you mean is, make the cases costless ? |
22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
what prevents someone from suing everyone in sight if there's no cost to it ? |
22:07 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: magneto-hydrodynamic coolant pump ? one sees them in patents often, but for some reason never in pc. |
22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i know. |
22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
yet pc would seem one of the best applications |
22:07 |
nubbins` |
no cost to it? if you lose, it's a 10btc cost |
22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
... |
22:08 |
dexX7 |
rota 2? |
22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
you gotta make up your mind nubbins` |
22:08 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: ordinary 'heat pipe' works great, so long as you have a massive sink on the other side. heat pipe can be thought of as a refrigerator without a compressor. |
22:09 |
nubbins` |
i left out fees for brevity in my example |
22:09 |
nubbins` |
consider it suitably modified. |
22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
so then mpex has to pay the fees if it loses ? |
22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
and it can lose without doing anything ? |
22:10 |
nubbins` |
it couldn't lose if it declined to participate |
22:10 |
nubbins` |
how else would you deal with a case you deemed frivolous? |
22:11 |
nubbins` |
throw 10btc at it and hope ya get it back?! |
22:11 |
Duffer1 |
what's the incentive to defend yourself ever? |
22:11 |
nubbins` |
THERE ISN'T ONE |
22:12 |
mircea_popescu |
then problem solved ? |
22:12 |
Duffer1 |
hehe |
22:12 |
nubbins` |
well, if you look at it that way, the rota was a solution in search of a problem |
22:13 |
mircea_popescu |
it may be said. |
22:13 |
nubbins` |
suppose i call chetty a poopyhead and it turns out this damaged her reputation so badly that she lost a 100btc contract. she decides to sue me via rota, i decline. |
22:13 |
mircea_popescu |
what can i tell you, i'm not mafalda. i figure things out as i go |
22:13 |
nubbins` |
now what? nothing |
22:13 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` now you're a poopyhead |
22:13 |
nubbins` |
joke's on you, that doesn't damage my reputation |
22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
well not like it has to. |
22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
whats this, taloncoin ? |
22:14 |
nubbins` |
i can't keep up with them, you tell me :D |
22:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8916 @ 0.0009492 = 8.4631 BTC [+] |
22:14 |
nubbins` |
anyway. |
22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
im very surprised nobody made bitround yet |
22:14 |
nubbins` |
maybe the defendant doesn't have to pay a fee because we're not paying the judges per-case anymore |
22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
everyone with their head in a box, X-coin Y-coin blergh |
22:15 |
nubbins` |
bitbar |
22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
not paying the judges per case has a host of problems |
22:15 |
nubbins` |
toss a couple at me |
22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
such as judges no longer actually wish to judge. it becomes morel ike jury duty |
22:15 |
nubbins` |
workload would be the obvious one |
22:16 |
nubbins` |
but hey, USA has a thousand magistrate judges for a reason |
22:16 |
nubbins` |
say a judge has to take 30 cases a year or w/e for his 30btc |
22:17 |
nubbins` |
he knows the workload involved when he signs up. once all judges are booked up, you have a backlog. |
22:18 |
joecool |
i had a case some years back that was delayed nearly 2 years because the judge assigned was waiting for his retirement request to finalize |
22:18 |
nubbins` |
exactly so |
22:19 |
MisterE |
mornin |
22:19 |
nubbins` |
anyway, you're arguing that salary doesn't work because pay-by-the-hour makes it seem like less of a chore |
22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` and how do you pay the 30 btc ? |
22:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and im merely arguing that since every top job out there pays a salary + bonuses, that model is unavoidable. |
22:24 |
nubbins` |
well, how were you planning to pay the 30btc? |
22:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16802 @ 0.0009498 = 15.9585 BTC [+] {2} |
22:24 |
nubbins` |
unavoidable pff, bitcoin is here to replace &c &c. |
22:25 |
nubbins` |
receiving btc IS a bonus. |
22:25 |
mircea_popescu |
iffy. |
22:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3380 @ 0.00095028 = 3.2119 BTC [+] |
22:26 |
nubbins` |
anyway, unless that 30btc was supposed to come from the leftover 1btc of the losing party's money (30 cases per judge per year!), i can only imagine that you were privately funding the judges' salaries |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
and if you recall, the 10 btc - 3x3 = 1 leftover. |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
30 cases a year pay for the 30. |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i was privately underwriting the risk that judges may not get 30 cases/year |
22:26 |
mircea_popescu |
that fat tail ended up costing a pretty penny, but hey. |
22:28 |
nubbins` |
so the plaintiff's 10btc fee is refundable to 9btc if he wins. |
22:28 |
nubbins` |
all the more reason to avoid frivolous claims, no? |
22:28 |
nubbins` |
if you buy a can of coke here, you pay eight cents recycling deposit. you bring the empty can back, you get five cents. |
22:31 |
nubbins` |
i can almost hear the gears turning from here... although it could just be the cat snoring ;( |
22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` no dood. 2parties contribute 10 btc each. the winner gets his 10 btc back |
22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
the loser's goes to judges and 1 btc left over. |
22:34 |
nubbins` |
yeah, that didn't work tho |
22:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5737 @ 0.00094708 = 5.4334 BTC [-] |
22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. but the problem was hardly the incentive structure. |
22:35 |
nubbins` |
so you remove the defendant's fee, which solves the problem you identified where mpex gets bled dry, and you make 1btc of the plaintiff's fee non-refundable, which solves the payroll problem |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
dude wtf. |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
plaintif wins. gets 10 btc back. who pays the judges ? |
22:37 |
nubbins` |
no. |
22:37 |
nubbins` |
plaintiff wins, gets 9btc back. |
22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. plaintiff never wins ? |
22:37 |
bocobit |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx1mryKqvT8 |
22:37 |
nubbins` |
you want the rota to solve your problems for you, it costs you 1btc. |
22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
and who pays the judges ? |
22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
do they make 3 btc if defendant wins, and 0 if plaintiff wins ? |
22:38 |
nubbins` |
they don't make shit until their contract is up |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
that'll never work. |
22:39 |
nubbins` |
sure it will. |
22:39 |
nubbins` |
if defendant wins, he gets the 9btc. |
22:39 |
nubbins` |
the 1btc -- and nothing more -- always goes to the judge fund |
22:40 |
MisterE |
who picks judges and where they come from? |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
MisterE was a self-nomination thing, originally. see the article |
22:40 |
MisterE |
sorry I came in late in the chat |
22:40 |
nubbins` |
if some asshole sends 100btc to mpex for no reason and wants to rota it, he pays 10btc, you pay 0btc. |
22:40 |
nubbins` |
1btc immediately goes to judges fund |
22:40 |
nubbins` |
asshole wins: he gets 9btc refund. you win: you get 9btc payout. |
22:41 |
nubbins` |
now tell me if people would be bringing frivolous claims to a court set up like that. |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
o.o |
22:41 |
nubbins` |
tell me if people wouldn't be encouraged to solve their own problems rather than whining to btc dad |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
i think perhaps you may be optimising for a differen tproblem. |
22:41 |
nubbins` |
solving all of them at once, really |
22:41 |
MisterE |
bitcointalk is there the whiners are |
22:42 |
nubbins` |
i don't think there are any problems left ;D |
22:42 |
mircea_popescu |
cool. im off to bed. |
22:42 |
nubbins` |
nitey |
22:44 |
nubbins` |
rota was a fine idea but just incorrectly structured from the start. it'd probably still be going if it was set up the way i've outlined ;D |
22:45 |
nubbins` |
MisterE: http://trilema.com/category/rota/ |
22:45 |
MisterE |
thanks |
22:45 |
nubbins` |
having the defendant pay 10btc creates a strong disincentive to participate |
22:46 |
nubbins` |
at least if there's no fee to register a defence, he's got nothing to lose by participating |
22:49 |
MisterE |
fees are always the plantiff's burden |
22:49 |
nubbins` |
as it should be |
22:49 |
MisterE |
frivolous suits are weeded out that way |
22:50 |
nubbins` |
you got it |
22:50 |
MisterE |
wel many are |
22:50 |
the20year1 |
As far as user trust goes, what's more important btc-otc or bitcointalk? |
22:50 |
MisterE |
I habent read yet but this is BTC arbitration? |
22:50 |
MisterE |
the20year1: same |
22:50 |
MisterE |
we;l not same but very similar |
22:50 |
nubbins` |
the20year1: if you ask people on irc, -otc. if you ask people on the forums, the forums. |
22:51 |
MisterE |
users here are the top of the pyramid |
22:51 |
the20year1 |
i'm sure the best answer is 'get both' , but i'm coming to realize that trust is good, it might save me some cash over the next 2 months |
22:51 |
nubbins` |
both is nice to have |
22:51 |
MisterE |
trust can save you *a lot* |
22:51 |
nubbins` |
forum people don't give a fuck about otc ratings, and vice versa |
22:51 |
MisterE |
if you have to shoose get rated by people here |
22:52 |
nubbins` |
it depends on who you plan on doing business with |
22:52 |
MisterE |
right |
22:52 |
the20year1 |
Lucky for me, the bulk of my investors aren't on either, however it'd be good going forward to have good ratings on both |
22:52 |
MisterE |
can I borrow something so I can pay it back and get rated? |
22:53 |
MisterE |
get them on wot ASAP |
22:54 |
kakobrekla |
but that requires reading stuff. |
22:54 |
the20year1 |
Well, in my case i've been 'loaned' something like 800btc |
22:54 |
kakobrekla |
re borrowing, yeah bitcoinpete just did that a day or three ago iirc |
22:54 |
the20year1 |
and out of that, among the 450ish users, some should be on irc & btct |
22:55 |
nubbins` |
i don't think borrowing and repaying is a particularly good way of building trust. |
22:55 |
kakobrekla |
never said that . |
22:55 |
nubbins` |
no, MisterE hinted at it tho |
22:55 |
MisterE |
:) |
22:56 |
MisterE |
I just want to get my rating off the ground |
22:56 |
MisterE |
kakobrekla: yea thats where I got the idea |
22:56 |
nubbins` |
so do something that'll make people trust you :P |
22:56 |
MisterE |
heh |
22:56 |
nubbins` |
"i got a loan and paid it back" is just another way of saying "i'm not going to pay back the first loan that's big enough" |
22:57 |
kakobrekla |
suck a dick without biting it off |
22:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00094708 = 10.1338 BTC [-] |
22:57 |
the20year1 |
pretty much |
22:59 |
MisterE |
lolol |
22:59 |
the20year1 |
Did you know there are 3 grades of ketchup? |
22:59 |
MisterE |
not surprised |
22:59 |
MisterE |
easy to make |
23:00 |
kakobrekla |
tomatoes *SPLASH* ketchup |
23:00 |
MisterE |
I make my own bbq / ketchup / marinara |
23:00 |
MisterE |
heh nearly |
23:00 |
MisterE |
vinegar |
23:01 |
nubbins` |
garlic |
23:01 |
nubbins` |
i've got pasta sauce from scratch figured out |
23:01 |
nubbins` |
haven't tried ketchup from scratch yet ;D |
23:02 |
the20year1 |
standard, extra standard and fancy |
23:05 |
nubbins` |
i wonder which one heinz is |
23:06 |
nubbins` |
ketchup and plastic film are two products where i always spend extra to get the name-brand stuff |
23:06 |
bounce |
you know, there's a long history of (non-bitcoin) courts and such, and also a long history of abuse in various forms. question then is why and when doesn't such a system get abused (or at least not too much, and then what is this not too much you speak of)? |
23:09 |
kakobrekla |
http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-used-client-money-operations-extravagances-allege-staff/ |
23:09 |
kakobrekla |
lolwtf |
23:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12702 @ 0.00094716 = 12.0308 BTC [+] {2} |
23:12 |
kakobrekla |
ona day he has all btc, the next none, the third some, the fourth all again, but on the fifth it seems all is gone. |
23:13 |
nubbins` |
bounce: generally historic courts did not impose a 10btc fee on the plaintiffs, only 9btc of which will be returned in the event of a win. |
23:14 |
nubbins` |
seems impossibly foolhardy in retrospect, but they were simpler times |
23:22 |
the20year1 |
There have been courts historically who charge the plaintiff large fees to file a case |
23:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00095082 = 13.4541 BTC [+] {3} |
23:34 |
nubbins` |
http://i.imgur.com/kIoqjQG.jpg |
23:35 |
MisterE |
in thailand your fee is a percentage of the damages you seek |
23:36 |
MisterE |
and that can get hefty |
23:36 |
MisterE |
rather like the concept tho |
23:36 |
MisterE |
some future costs can be paid from that fee though iirc |
23:37 |
nubbins` |
interesting |
23:38 |
nubbins` |
anyway, one more link then bed |
23:38 |
nubbins` |
http://www.fruitsaladtrees.com/ |
23:38 |
ozbot |
Fruit Salad Tree Company | Home |
23:38 |
MisterE |
-assets should fund the space elevator! |
23:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15192 @ 0.00095313 = 14.48 BTC [+] {2} |
23:39 |
MisterE |
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140306-space-elevator-partial-orbit-science/ |
23:41 |
bitcoinpete |
kakobrekla: thanks for the rating! was wondering if you know what to do about some other guy who rated me -1 with comment "Nick squatter using this nick to scam you. Ask in channel to have this scammer authenticate." http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=bitcoinpete&sign=ANY&type=RECV |
23:41 |
bitcoinpete |
seems this guy is a nicksquatter patrolman of sorts |
23:42 |
mike_c |
did you email him? |
23:45 |
bitcoinpete |
not yet, but you're right, that's the first thing to do |
23:45 |
novusordo |
sounds like someone's using your nick to scam others while unauthenticated |
23:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0009541 = 16.3151 BTC [+] |
23:46 |
bitcoinpete |
i thought people knew better than to work with unauthenticated people |
23:46 |
novusordo |
only complete noobs don't |
23:47 |
bitcoinpete |
this Michail1 must be protector and defender of noobs then |
23:47 |
bitcoinpete |
yeesh |
23:47 |
novusordo |
you can message nickserv "set enforce on" to automatically kick people off your username after 30 seconds if they haven't authed |
23:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00095427 = 19.3717 BTC [+] {3} |
23:48 |
bitcoinpete |
did not know that, thx |
23:50 |
novusordo |
i'm sure if you message Michail1 while authed, he'll remove the rating |
23:52 |
joecool |
;;events bitcoinpete |
23:52 |
gribble |
http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?bitcoinpete&&&&& |
23:52 |
ozbot |
OTC bitcoinpete |
23:53 |
joecool |
bitcoinpete: yeah you had a squatter on your nick :P |
23:54 |
bitcoinpete |
joecool hot damn |
23:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05739998 = 0.1148 BTC [+] {2} |
23:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6227 @ 0.00095225 = 5.9297 BTC [-] |
23:59 |
bitcoinpete |
;;ident bitcoinpete |
23:59 |
gribble |
Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is identified as user 'bitcoinpete', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None |