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00:00 decimation my point: his job is exactly to find the one-off's and worry about their retention. What possible "systematic approach" exists, even in theory?
00:05 MisterE that the order certifying the class?
00:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kernel-in-rom never caught on because these fuckwits want to keep versioning everything all the time. gotta upgrade!!1
00:08 asciilifeform lul
00:09 asciilifeform upgrade all day - just turn the key.
00:09 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well he's mastered them so...
00:09 asciilifeform anyone else notice how you more or less can't buy antifuse roms any more?
00:10 asciilifeform just flash that programmatically refuses (or promises to refuse) writing a second time
00:12 dignork asciilifeform, there are OTP chips, you're saying they can be rewritten?
00:12 mircea_popescu dude what's with all this derpage. avatrade ? future of crypto trading ? what the hell.
00:12 asciilifeform dignork: i can't promise to re-write one on demand - but they're 'flash' inside.
00:13 asciilifeform dignork: notice that the same part number typically comes in a UV window version.
00:13 asciilifeform now go and try to buy a 1980s style antifuse ROM that actually burns
00:13 asciilifeform i.e. fuses blow when you write it.
00:14 mircea_popescu ;;later tell decimation the following systematic approach : "you will be born anyway, need to work anyway. why should you be paid ?"
00:14 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00094424 = 10.3866 BTC [-]
00:16 mircea_popescu oh look, another blockchain crawler : https://coinb.in/
00:18 dignork asciilifeform, I never actually looked into these chips, but wikipedia says empty PROM is filled with 1's, and you're irreversibly burning 0's
00:19 asciilifeform yes
00:19 dignork asciilifeform, so later you can burn some more 0'...
00:19 asciilifeform now try to buy one.
00:19 mircea_popescu dignork it'd be an extremely rare case where that actually works tho
00:19 asciilifeform incidentally, this reminds me of a scheme i came up with for re-writing 'cd-r' disks, before the rewritable kind was available
00:20 asciilifeform using 'gray code'. alert reader can probably figure out how it worked.
00:20 asciilifeform how many 'brain cycles' we've all wasted on obsolete tech!
00:21 mircea_popescu "I stumbled upon this brilliant piece of journalism written by one “Mircea Popescu”. The title of the article reads “Why Dogecoin is a scam…” and the contents are amusing."
00:21 mircea_popescu at least we're using the brain cycles on things that actually exist.
00:21 mircea_popescu how many brain cycles have various anon derps wasted on rehashing their imaginary worlds ?
00:22 asciilifeform the folks who understand their worlds being imaginary, i've no problem with.
00:23 dignork asciilifeform, well, I have this http://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/2.4GHz-RF/nRF24LE1-OTP on hand, but I don't have equipment to actually look at the chip structure though :(
00:23 mircea_popescu well the others you really can't have a problem with. because who'd you have a problem with ? they're not here.
00:23 mircea_popescu o look at that, fico lost!
00:24 dignork asciilifeform, it's a complex device containing OTP, so not a strict match
00:26 Apocalyptic yeah mircea_popescu, i'm so happy
00:28 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic hm ?
00:28 Apocalyptic fico is the last thing slovakia needs right now
00:29 mircea_popescu a a
00:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00094694 = 17.8972 BTC [+]
00:41 tg2 It's there any traction to have the irs change their stance on btc?
00:41 tg2 They basically made it a paperwork disaster to actually tax it
00:42 chetty get the IRS to change? you ARE joking?
00:43 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5937860#msg5937860 and another layer of scammyness unfolds.
00:43 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
00:44 mircea_popescu so apparently lmb gifted itself a hefty 28% equity stake post-ipo ?
00:47 tg2 Well who votes on tax rates
00:47 tg2 Not the irs
00:47 tg2 Ergo they should be susceptible to change
00:47 chetty no one votes on IRS rules
00:47 tg2 The irs only collects
00:48 MisterE no they made powerful administrative rules too
00:48 tg2 Voted on by... ?
00:48 tg2 C ca
00:48 tg2 There should be an avenue to have those rules revised
00:48 chetty rules and regulations ... no one votes
00:49 MisterE they have an internal committee of bureaucrats probably
00:49 MisterE might take public comment
00:49 Apocalyptic this jimmothy guy is halirious
00:49 Apocalyptic *hilarious
00:49 Apocalyptic damn i need to sleep
00:49 mircea_popescu so go sleep
00:50 mircea_popescu it ain't going anywhere.
00:54 tg2 They have their irc code
00:55 tg2 Federal court ruling sits higher than agency interpretive regulations
00:56 nubbins` jimmothy
00:56 nubbins` pretty sure he's a paid shill for whoever has a buck
00:56 tg2 And IRS Revenue Rulings, which I would assume the btc guidance fell under
00:56 MisterE yea but challenging those regulations is not possible for mere mortals
00:57 nubbins` also, neobee: lel
00:57 MisterE heh yea
00:57 tg2 one might assume that those remain attainable for somebody
00:57 tg2 If there was a landmark supreme court case
00:58 Apocalyptic too bad TAT is mixed up in this
00:58 tg2 It feels like the irs just said "here's our stance" and left the door open to an overriding ruling from a larger authority
00:59 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2014&bots=true#485655
00:59 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
00:59 nubbins` such lels
00:59 nubbins` Apocalyptic: might as well read the whole day
01:01 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> so apparently lmb gifted itself a hefty 28% equity stake post-ipo /// To my knowledge LMB never gifted itself anything nor moved shares to Havelock
01:02 ThickAsThieves there was a portion seperately allocated for employee program of some sort I think, not tradable
01:02 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well, here's the problem :
01:02 mircea_popescu Public investors currently hold 5,042,638 LMB Holdings shares (31.5164875% of the profits), whilst LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK) shall hold 10,957,362 shares 68.4835125% of the profits), for a total of 16,000,000 LMB Holdings virtual shares, which represent 100% of the global profits of the LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK).
01:02 mircea_popescu this is an update of the previous version, which read :
01:02 mircea_popescu Public investors will hold 9,600,000 LMB Holdings shares (60% of the profits), whilst LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK) shall hold 6,400,000 shares (40% of the profits), for a total of 16,000,000 LMB Holdings virtual shares, which represent 100% of the global profits of the LMB Subsidiaries Limited (UK).
01:02 ThickAsThieves basically the unsold shares sat unsold afaik
01:02 mircea_popescu the net effect of this change is for lmb to gift itself a significant portion of the equity.
01:02 ThickAsThieves only the 31% wouldve been eligible for the initial divs
01:03 mircea_popescu the figures seem to be 68.4x% and 40%.
01:03 nubbins` but that's 28.x% for free
01:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.65252998 = 1.9576 BTC [+] {2}
01:03 mircea_popescu i guess this is why no gpg contract = scam, pretty much.
01:04 mircea_popescu as far as i know every pdf-ipo to date has done this sort of thing
01:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04539999 = 0.1816 BTC [+]
01:05 tg2 Unfortunately there is no reprimand even declaring profitability
01:05 Apocalyptic nubbins`, thanks for the link, i'm reading
01:05 mircea_popescu tg2 that didn't parse.
01:05 nubbins` ^
01:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65253014 BTC [+]
01:05 tg2 S/reprimand/consequence
01:06 tg2 Falsely declaring profitability
01:06 tg2 Who is keeping the company truthful about their earnings
01:06 tg2 ie rent
01:06 mod6
01:07 mod6 oops
01:07 mircea_popescu this is a major problem, generally speaking.
01:07 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2014&bots=true#456142
01:07 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
01:08 mircea_popescu nubbins` myeah.
01:08 tg2 I have a model which would be great for this kind of transparency
01:08 nubbins` on the bright side, a bunch of people in cyprus got several months worth of salary that they wouldn't have had otherwise
01:08 nubbins` so there's that
01:09 nubbins` practically a success
01:09 xdotcomm_ tg2: what model?
01:09 tg2 Marketplace
01:09 xdotcomm_ like ebay
01:09 tg2 No, a good one
01:09 xdotcomm_ or like nyse
01:10 tg2 Marketplace for anything
01:10 xdotcomm_ elaborate please
01:10 xdotcomm_ like craigslist?
01:10 tg2 Like a decentralized craigslist
01:11 xdotcomm_ problem with craigslist is there is no rankings
01:11 tg2 Yeah
01:11 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2014&bots=true#485755
01:11 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
01:11 nubbins` just pasting things here
01:11 tg2 That and their code is from 1999
01:11 nubbins` no big deal
01:11 nubbins` xdotcomm_, tg2: those are problems?
01:12 tg2 Can be, yes
01:13 xdotcomm_ its tough because you gotta make it so much better then craigslist + ebay ... otherwise no go.. they already have the masses
01:13 nubbins` #bitcoin-assets: where $150m/y is a problem
01:13 mircea_popescu "The trading is simply frozen; unless they tore down the building and sold the rubble Im pretty sure that NEO's offices will be open come Monday."
01:13 mircea_popescu wait, the theory is that these people bought an office building too ?!
01:14 tg2 Kijiji shits on craigslist
01:14 mircea_popescu !t h neobee
01:14 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: / 0 / (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00155000 / 0.0024427 / 0.00327700 (113780 shares, 277.92986804 BTC), 30D: 0.00155000 / 0.00351926 / 0.00567777 (493675 shares, 1737.37018237 BTC)
01:14 xdotcomm_ 5 to 10x better for early adapters and 10 to 20 for the masses
01:15 xdotcomm_ tg2: kijji > craigslist thats y in Canada its #1
01:18 tg2 Eventually it'll take over in the us
01:18 xdotcomm_ they will never end http://digitalinterface.blogspot.ca/2014/03/strangecoin-proposal-for-nonlinear.html
01:18 tg2 Ebay owns it
01:18 xdotcomm_ yea
01:27 TestingUnoDosTre .d
01:27 ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1149 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.7374% in 6d 19h 11m 34s
01:28 TestingUnoDosTre alright I've asked this before, but I got disconnected. Why does gribble have such a lower prediction for next difficulty compared to bitcoinwisdom. Is one sampling way more or way less blocks than the other?
01:29 mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre perhaps check the log ?
01:29 TestingUnoDosTre ahhh yes. There was some lag inbetween when I was checking it and disconnected
01:29 TestingUnoDosTre now it should be good
01:30 TestingUnoDosTre scratch that, it looks like no one answered
01:31 nubbins` no, i remember someone answering
01:32 mircea_popescu what, you get different logs where you live ?
01:32 Apocalyptic depends if kako has edited it or not I guess
01:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2014#592194
01:32 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
01:32 nubbins` kako, editor of logs
01:33 I'm glad we pay these people: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/getcovered/10.gif
01:33 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5978604#msg5978604 check out this epic shit. apparently i'm a bad person because i don't suck now.
01:33 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
01:34 TestingUnoDosTre ahhh thank you
01:34 mircea_popescu [\\\] da fuck is that supposed to be
01:34 nubbins` heheh
01:34 TestingUnoDosTre it says bitcoinwisdom uses a mix of 2016 long term linear and 504 short term linear to estimate
01:34 mircea_popescu this andy greenberg imbecile is really getting my goat.
01:35 TestingUnoDosTre at least that's what one redditor claimed
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00094615 = 7.5692 BTC [-]
01:35 mircea_popescu poor finley already said he's not it. actually, what he said was, "i could claim it and go to my grave a celebrated inventor. it'd be sweet. however... i did not do it, sadly. stop hounding me."
01:35 mircea_popescu what does forshitbes do ? hounds him.
01:35 mircea_popescu journos belong in penal colonies,
01:35 mircea_popescu and i'm not even tyrant yet./
01:37 woah
01:38 so I'm late to the party
01:38 NeoBee has pulled a runner?
01:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
01:39 mircea_popescu [\\\] well they're having a great weekend so far.
01:40 and isn't NeoBee the guys helping 'fix' bitfunder/weex?
01:40 aren't*
01:40 dexX7 "Danny doesn't need to talk directly to shareholders and customers." ... wow, reaching that point was faster then i expected (i didn't at all)
01:41 mircea_popescu [\\\] they were the guys that spoke out of turn on the topic and then never brought it up again.
01:41 mircea_popescu dexX7 you just think so because you're a one man band that never leaves his appartment.
01:41 mircea_popescu if you were rich and successful you'd see.
01:43 nubbins` someone should just IPO a series of magazine ads and six months salary and get it over with
01:43 lol
01:44 nubbins` give up the facade
01:44 brilliant idea
01:44 nubbins` just found a wart on my finger. turns out it's dough.
01:44 * nubbins` fist-pumps
01:44 mircea_popescu nubbins` in point of case, it's a major improvement over the previous stuff
01:44 mircea_popescu which did google ads at best.
01:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
01:45 bocobit hows it going guys
01:45 bocobit i've got a question
01:45 Duffer1 ni hao
01:45 bocobit why doesn't Andreas Antnonopoulos have a wiki?
01:46 mircea_popescu perhaps he didn't install one ?
01:46 Duffer1 he's a speaker
01:46 dignork bocobit, he wrote a book instead :)
01:47 bocobit I'm just trying to find out some info on him like where he's from/ past work ect.
01:47 mircea_popescu bocobit why not just ask him ?
01:47 mircea_popescu has a twitter or an email or something im sure ?
01:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63174527 = 1.2635 BTC [-] {2}
01:47 nubbins` 3:17am, nice
01:47 nubbins` i mean
01:47 nubbins` nite
01:47 mircea_popescu nn
01:47 nubbins` (not nice)
01:48 mircea_popescu Nighty Nubbins
01:48 mircea_popescu stop deing bifficult.
01:48 nubbins` NOODGIGHT
01:49 mircea_popescu "Some men enjoy dancing with other men without their tops on while others prefer the company of a woman two KFC family buckets away from upsetting the planet's rotational axis."
01:49 mircea_popescu this dude can lay down the webhurt lawl.
01:50 dexX7 hm? what would i see, if i were rich and successful?
01:50 mircea_popescu dexX7 how would i know ?
01:51 mircea_popescu (i'm just being very sarcastic because that thread's too funny to do anything else)
01:51 neo pr was active for a week after their last post
01:51 andyfletcher dexX7, you would have to tell us which direction you were looking
01:52 dexX7 hehe k
01:52 mircea_popescu but generally speaking, you would be seeing cleavage.
01:53 andyfletcher assuming the lights are on
01:54 tg2 Pleural form of cleavage
01:54 mircea_popescu i think if you're rich and successful one of the perks is that you can see cleavage even through the dark.
01:54 mircea_popescu or clothes.
01:56 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
01:56 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 476.06, Best ask: 479.14, Bid-ask spread: 3.08000, Last trade: 479.43, 24 hour volume: 10237.77098943, 24 hour low: 473.67, 24 hour high: 506.41, 24 hour vwap: 492.153544837
01:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.05566386 = 0.4453 BTC [-] {5}
01:56 mircea_popescu i thought there was supposed to be super-duper heavy support at 500
01:56 mircea_popescu what scam is this!
01:57 ThickAsThieves enky says 430 or thereabouts
01:57 ThickAsThieves i'm inclined to agree
01:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00012 = 0.36 BTC [-] {4}
02:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2600 @ 0.00012001 = 0.312 BTC [+] {2}
02:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0454 = 0.1362 BTC [+]
02:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0458 = 0.229 BTC [+]
02:07 mircea_popescu "Nearly 1,900 Veterans Committed Suicide In Just 2014 Alone"
02:07 mircea_popescu i guess the bankers aren't suddenly all that exceptional.
02:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0459 = 0.2295 BTC [+]
02:08 andyfletcher wonder how many died on deployment in the same period
02:09 mircea_popescu http://icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx
02:09 ozbot iCasualties | Operation Enduring Freedom | Afghanistan
02:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00586892 = 0.4695 BTC [-] {4}
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02:30 benkay hey!
02:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62500105 = 1.25 BTC [-] {2}
02:31 benkay i'm not dead yet, despite your best efforts
02:31 benkay although all of my calories are ethanol derived
02:31 benkay someone told me this is unhealthy
02:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.62044563 = 6.8249 BTC [-] {7}
02:33 benkay !l m s.mpoe
02:33 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00094615 BTC [-]
02:33 benkay !l h rent
02:33 assbot Last trade for RENT on HAVELOCK was at 0.0073 BTC [+]
02:33 benkay the next rent round is almost not bullshit, youse guise?
02:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
02:35 benkay ;;later tell tg2 llolzlzolozlzolzolol self-stopping doors
02:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
02:38 tg2 Later while online thxm8
02:39 benkay u think i ams no tab compl?
02:39 benkay the tg2 operators nevar sleep
02:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 543 @ 0.00616386 = 3.347 BTC [-] {10}
02:40 benkay moiety: you have great taste in chain
02:41 tg2 benkay your segway doesn't even have doors how would you understand this market
02:42 benkay segue?
02:42 benkay to something interdasting i hope
02:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.61125954 = 6.7239 BTC [-] {3}
02:45 xdotcomm_ benkay: i saw portlandia today ... is it based on your personality?
02:45 benkay oh, both socks at once?
02:45 benkay guys u gotta do betta
02:46 tg2 how hard we gotta sock
02:46 tg2 last time a sock gave you this much pleasure it ended up stuck to the laundry hamper
02:47 benkay brilli-allent
02:47 tg2 > concept of friendship foreign, must be socks
02:48 tg2 ;;ident benkay
02:48 gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@216-161-94-151.ptld.qwest.net', is not identified.
02:48 tg2 gpg up noob
02:48 benkay if only you got to do that
02:49 tg2 if only we ate our own dogfood
02:49 mircea_popescu tg2 soo, you two are friends ?
02:49 tg2 which two?!
02:49 benkay tg2 and xdotcomm_ , sitting in a tree
02:49 tg2 xdotcomm_ is my deputy sock obv
02:50 benkay (f.e.l.l.a.t.i.n.g.)
02:51 benkay anyways, upstairs sez beers.
02:51 benkay night, gents.
02:51 xdotcomm_ mircea_popescu: we have known each other... but none of us has helped one another move
02:51 tg2 lol
02:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05719913 = 0.2288 BTC [+] {2}
02:51 mircea_popescu xdotcomm_ lol i c
02:51 xdotcomm_ in north america you can only be friends if you move couches for each other during moves
02:51 tg2 we are the best of business friends but the worst of IRL friends
02:52 tg2 this guy sold me a broken gong
02:52 xdotcomm_ 99% online relationship
02:52 mircea_popescu o i thought "help each other move" is when you seduce the other's wife and so now he has to find a motel.
02:52 tg2 and then never even gave it to me
02:52 xdotcomm_ tg2: sold a server as well then stole it back
02:52 tg2 ;;rate xdotcomm_ -10 sold me a broken gong and then never even gave it to me
02:52 gribble Error: You have to have received some ratings in order to rate other users.
02:52 xdotcomm_ ive been trying to pay back for years for that
02:52 tg2 sells me a server "sick deal bro, dual quad core xeon 32G ram"
02:53 xdotcomm_ SSD!
02:53 tg2 wake up the next day
02:53 tg2 car windows smashed in
02:53 tg2 server no longer there
02:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0463 = 0.1389 BTC [+]
02:53 tg2 i'm gonna reck ur otc rating when I get one
02:54 xdotcomm_ i need to get the weight of unfairness shifted somehow
02:54 xdotcomm_ been trying hard
02:54 xdotcomm_ for party bring magnum vodka bottle...
02:54 tg2 who's gonna administer the bet on bitbet about how long until one of us gets rating
02:54 xdotcomm_ we can cheat and sell cheap btc
02:54 xdotcomm_ @ loss
02:55 tg2 solid biz plan
02:55 xdotcomm_ get best strippers for the party
02:55 xdotcomm_ i try hard
02:55 TestingUnoDosTre rate xdotcomm 2 . comment this guy has no clue how much tell sell btc for
02:55 tg2 lol
02:56 xdotcomm_ for realz
02:56 tg2 for real tho he called the doge spike about 2 hours before it climed from 54 to 290
02:56 tg2 made me lots of btc's
02:56 tg2 off of scrubcoins
02:56 xdotcomm_ it was a savant moment
02:57 tg2 now its going back there
02:57 tg2 lol
02:57 xdotcomm_ i can just give access to my tranny paysite to everyone in this chan.. probably get mad ratings
02:57 xdotcomm_ exclusive tranny contents
02:57 tg2 mpex crashes, havelock closes
02:57 tg2 ghost chan
03:02 tg2 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/foodbeast/taco-bell-president-says_b_5045279.html
03:02 ozbot Taco Bell President Says Canada Will Get Breakfast 'When You Take Justin Bieber Back' | Foodbeast
03:05 TestingUnoDosTre can't stop salivating when I see the price lately
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03:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00094607 = 5.0142 BTC [-]
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03:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00094607 = 16.5562 BTC [-]
03:48 bounce asciilifeform: point was rather that the acorn archimedes is closer to a modern computer than an 80s micro.
03:49 bounce bit like stuffing qnx+photon in flashrom. might even be doable if you can find coreboot-supported hardware.
03:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.069897 = 0.1398 BTC [-]
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04:15 MisterE http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/28/5557120/what-if-oculus-rift-kickstarter-backers-had-gotten-equity
04:15 ozbot If you back a Kickstarter project that sells for $2 billion, do you deserve to get rich? | The Verge
04:26 GreenBits hi all
04:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8483 @ 0.00094545 = 8.0203 BTC [-]
04:35 chetty Greetins GreenBits
04:37 moiety http://rt.com/news/vader-presidential-hopeful-ukraine-885/
04:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00620002 = 0.31 BTC [-]
04:45 MisterE heh, I got a little nervous nelly today, thought we were going to test 400, so I sold some coin for 484 that I bought at 505 :/
04:46 MisterE https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game/comments?cursor=6299270#comment-6299269
04:46 ozbot Oculus Rift: Step Into the Game by Oculus » Comments — Kickstarter
04:46 MisterE ^ Says it better than I could
04:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64989888 BTC [+]
05:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.64952249 = 2.5981 BTC [-] {4}
05:03 cazalla why sell MisterE
05:03 cazalla just keep stackin'
05:11 punkman1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511457.0
05:11 ozbot [ANN][KAR] KARPELESCOIN | OPEN POOL REGISTRATION | LAUNCH Mar 30 12:00 PM
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05:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.653 BTC [+]
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05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00094609 = 9.0825 BTC [+] {2}
05:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1047 @ 0.00012001 = 0.1257 BTC [-]
05:57 punkman1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJAT6fEn0zw
05:57 ozbot Nigeria Coin - Coin for Nigeria - YouTube
06:01 * andyfletcher has inherited 1,000,00 NigeriaCoin from a relative in Lagos and needs help transferring them
06:02 punkman1 I will trade you 1000 KarpelesCoin for it
06:03 andyfletcher no thanks KarpelesCoins look scammy
06:07 punkman1 I heard neobee is launching a coin this week
06:07 punkman1 but you can only buy ads with it
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06:26 cazalla reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9I-UA4IBOc
06:27 cazalla oops, wrong one, this one is more like nigeria coin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iqQcNqfTDU
06:41 chetty http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592534/Is-farcical-use-taxpayers-money-Ethiopian-gets-legal-aid-UK-sue-giving-aid-Ethiopia.html
06:41 ozbot Is this the most farcical use of taxpayers' money ever: Ethiopian gets legal aid from UK - to sue us
06:46 punkman1 so a farmer gets legal aid from UK, to sue the UK for sending too much money
06:46 punkman1 makes sense I guess
06:47 andyfletcher Bit of a gray area. If UK foreign aid is supporting regimes who are abusing the local population then I don't have too much of an issue with a legal aided challenge to it regardless of who is doing the challenge
06:48 andyfletcher After all, the locals are the ones with legal 'standing' in the matter
07:01 chetty a bit messy in court when the taxpayer is funding both sides
07:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2153 @ 0.00094543 = 2.0355 BTC [-] {2}
07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8970 @ 0.00094615 = 8.487 BTC [+]
07:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06750332 = 0.27 BTC [-]
07:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
07:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00094809 = 7.7743 BTC [+]
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08:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 746 @ 0.00094809 = 0.7073 BTC [+]
08:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00094462 = 3.9674 BTC [-]
08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1550 @ 0.00013205 = 0.2047 BTC [+] {3}
08:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.078 = 0.468 BTC [-]
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 70 @ 0.00718998 = 0.5033 BTC [+] {3}
08:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.067501 = 0.7425 BTC [-] {3}
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08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06612 = 0.1984 BTC [-]
08:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06612 = 0.529 BTC [-] {2}
08:55 MGK I heard this is the center of bitcoin, hello center
08:57 MisterE hello 450 :)
09:02 chetty hiya MGK
09:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.065 = 0.195 BTC [-]
09:07 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5980210#msg5980210
09:07 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
09:07 mircea_popescu pls t
09:07 mircea_popescu pls to have informations ty.
09:09 psterryl the more herp talks the more he comes across as extremely paranoid and pretty delusional
09:17 mircea_popescu ahh that thread is too delicious
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09:37 moiety bitpop is still going?! ffs
09:39 mircea_popescu o look who's here. when did the menuls let you out of the cage moiety ?
09:41 moiety earlier, but i went to do things (mothers day here) - thats why they released me XD how are you mircea_popescu?
09:42 mircea_popescu oh you know, all butthurt about how nobody is using mpex anymore because i'm a dinosaur
09:42 mircea_popescu here in my old apartment, with the chains...
09:42 * moiety hands mircea_popescu the tissues
09:42 moiety there there
09:42 mircea_popescu and this half pound of hand made chocolate pralines i bought yesterday from the... uh... from the pantry
09:43 moiety pralines are ace, they should numb the pain
09:44 mircea_popescu oh, but nothing can ever dull the pain of dissaproval by a bunch of anon tards on a forum somewhere.
09:44 mircea_popescu that's the worst.
09:44 moiety do you not still have the form i gave you? to the logs!
09:44 mircea_popescu i really am having too much fun online these days.
09:45 mircea_popescu how the fuck would one not is the question. this beats anything steve martin ever did.
09:45 moiety https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5981543#msg5981543 this thread has me reading the forum again and the dank bank
09:45 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
09:46 mircea_popescu the dank bank was epic lmao. -pr sends me the link with "you have to check this out" in the comment field, which you know, the fuck do i know what it is ?
09:46 mircea_popescu totally blindsided me, i was roaring laughing.
09:46 moiety me too lol insta-watch list addition for me
09:47 mircea_popescu i think there's enough material of good crazy quality on that forum so far to hack the borg cube.
09:47 mircea_popescu just you know... hash it, or something.
09:48 moiety lololol more than enough
09:48 moiety its the only reason to be there really, for me anyways
09:49 mircea_popescu this is what, the... fourth installment of "we shall make our own webexchange and become rich out of lunch money" attempt that blew up ?
09:49 mircea_popescu definitely looking forward to 2015.
09:49 moiety XD only four?
09:49 * andyfletcher is waiting for the headline "N&B CEO: Aliens ate our btc"
09:50 moiety ;; later tell BingoBoingo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444700.0 this is you isn't it?!
09:50 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:50 mircea_popescu andyfletcher you happen to have that pic of 5 people, neo "ceo" guy on left, tuur guy next to him then 3 actual adults ?
09:50 deadweasel the forums are seething with ignorance, I should block bitcointalk at the router.
09:50 mircea_popescu some guy from the local uni etc
09:51 moiety but but comedy
09:51 * andyfletcher doesn't have the pic, but can imagine it
09:52 deadweasel I can't block it, it's too rich.
09:52 MGK where can I mine for PPS?
09:52 moiety i've had a fair bit of idiocy to catch up on after ignoring btctalk existance for quite some time
09:53 mircea_popescu MGK which are those ?
09:53 MGK Pay Per Share
09:53 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/V40ebZQ.jpg it was something like that.
09:53 MGK any pools still use that payment method?
09:54 mircea_popescu MGK o you mean pools ? hm.
09:54 mircea_popescu probably not. wasn't it eminently defraudable in some manner ?
09:54 MGK yes pool that has PPS payment option
09:55 moiety irrelevant but that room is gorgeous
09:55 mircea_popescu well i imagine it musta been reasonably expensive.
09:55 MGK Not totally sure
09:56 moiety why do these places pair gorgeous ceilings with awful carpetting?! everywhere!
09:57 chetty cause trolls have muddy feet
09:58 mircea_popescu moiety it's an expense thing. expensive carpeting is expensive to maintain. gorgeous ceilings are a one time only sort of expense.
09:58 moiety good point.. let them have linoleum!
09:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 312 @ 0.00088832 = 0.2772 BTC [+]
10:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00088832 = 0.1777 BTC [+]
10:00 mircea_popescu "let them have linoleum and aim for the stars!"
10:04 moiety could veen be marble pattern...
10:04 moiety even*
10:04 moiety imagine ukraine voted in darth vader.. what are they thinking running?!
10:13 MGK anyone know how much IXC is or what that even is? and is dev coin worth anything?
10:14 mircea_popescu you'll find few people here care about altcoins, outside perhaps atc and ltc, or to make fun of dodge.
10:16 MGK only asked because ghash.io gives me them for mining bitcoin on their pool
10:17 MGK and I have a decent amount now figured id ask about them
10:17 ThickAsThieves i'd it stands for intraexchange currency
10:17 ThickAsThieves and they probably issue it themselves as a token of some sort
10:17 ThickAsThieves guess*
10:18 ThickAsThieves ;;google what is IXC at ghash.io
10:18 gribble GHash.IO - Bitcoin: <https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/GHash.IO>; Reason why miners like me won't leave GHASH.IO or won't stop ...: <http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1useqk/reason_why_miners_like_me_wont_leave_ghashio_or/>; FAQ – CEX.IO: <https://support.cex.io/hc/en-us/categories/200118967-FAQ>
10:18 MGK you cant trade IXC or Dev on their exchange so why would they hand them out? Must not be worth anything is what im thinking
10:19 ThickAsThieves http://www.ixcoin.co/
10:19 ThickAsThieves "The Inter eXchange Coin"
10:19 punkman1 just an old altcoin that can be merge-mined
10:20 MGK thanks
10:21 ThickAsThieves thank google
10:22 mircea_popescu i suppose merge mining does that, there'll be lots of abandocoins
10:22 ThickAsThieves you should check it out: www.google.com
10:22 mircea_popescu ie, stuff nobody cares about anymore but since they're merge-mined there's plenty floating around
10:23 MGK wow never heard of google, great find!
10:24 mircea_popescu lol
10:24 ThickAsThieves it's hit and miss, but useful
10:24 mircea_popescu I wonder if there's anyone who actually said this honestly today, somewhere on the planet
10:26 punkman1 likely
10:29 mircea_popescu how tho. i mean most browsers ship with it embedded
10:29 punkman1 well kids are being born every second
10:30 mircea_popescu but much akin people of the 90s though the blue ms explorer icon was "the internet"
10:30 mircea_popescu just so people of the 2010s at that level have no particular understanding of google as apart from the normal functioning of their browser
10:31 ThickAsThieves well you did say anyone in the world
10:31 ThickAsThieves plenty in remote areas never heard of it i assume
10:32 ThickAsThieves 90yo grandmas in developing countries
10:32 ThickAsThieves grammy this is google!
10:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06611111 = 0.6611 BTC [+]
10:33 mircea_popescu hm
10:33 mircea_popescu trying to imagine the world is such a mind boggling exercise.
10:35 punkman1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=549572.0;all
10:35 ozbot [ANN] Litecoin [LTC] X11 hardfork at block 564,480
10:36 MGK have you ever travelled much?
10:36 mircea_popescu MGK yes.
10:36 mircea_popescu punkman1 ouch.
10:37 punkman1 alt-altcoin
10:37 mircea_popescu MisterE: heh, I got a little nervous nelly today, thought we were going to test 400, so I sold some coin for 484 that I bought at 505 :/ << that's how fortunes are made.
10:37 mircea_popescu other people's, but what's in a genitive.
10:38 mircea_popescu "To lower the footprint of LTC and retain GPU mineability, the algorithm of our choice is X11." footprint in what sense ?
10:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00094462 = 8.6433 BTC [-]
10:38 mircea_popescu has "footprint" become one of those words ?
10:38 punkman1 environmental footprint most likely
10:39 mircea_popescu but gpus are pretty inefficient
10:39 punkman1 and these people are not people
10:39 mircea_popescu course it makes exactly zero difference, in the end.
10:40 mircea_popescu people will expend as much energy as they're willing to expend, how many hashes that yields is a purely conventional measure
10:40 ThickAsThieves I do wonder if LTC ASICs will kill it
10:41 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well, the forum crowd still hoping to "strike it rich" on their ten bux will proclaim it dead
10:41 mircea_popescu or "a scam", either way.
10:41 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
10:41 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 442.9, Best ask: 447.26, Bid-ask spread: 4.36000, Last trade: 442.9, 24 hour volume: 18908.29228525, 24 hour low: 442.89, 24 hour high: 501.9, 24 hour vwap: 473.125631005
10:41 ThickAsThieves looks like that bottom will be put to the test
10:41 mircea_popescu but that aside ltc was always an iffy proposition. and contrary to what the proponents were screaming, it hasn't really been lifted by btc so much.
10:42 ThickAsThieves to me its only offer was pretty much what Altcoin proclaims
10:42 ThickAsThieves to be the clearest alt in the fog
10:42 ThickAsThieves but the fog is so thick now
10:42 ThickAsThieves and newcomers cant see it
10:43 ThickAsThieves to newcomers ltc has to win on the same ground as any other alt
10:43 mircea_popescu i think this is actually true.
10:43 mircea_popescu as outlandish as it may sound
10:43 turbo_ac100 (16:37:25) mircea_popescu: MisterE: heh, I got a little nervous nelly today, thought we were going to test 400, so I sold some coin for 484 that I bought at 505 :/ << that's how fortunes are made. << oracle of delphi, alexander the great
10:43 ThickAsThieves all it has left, is its liquidity
10:43 mircea_popescu lol
10:44 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the liquidity problem of a crypto coin is problematic. i could present the following argument that atc actually has better liquidity :
10:44 mircea_popescu the ratio between people willing to buy to support it and people needing to sell to pay for their mining is better.
10:44 MisterE stamp testing 440 so not feeling too bad about it ;)
10:45 mircea_popescu MisterE you already booked your loss no matter what other things happen around you.
10:45 ThickAsThieves indeed
10:45 MisterE yep
10:45 ThickAsThieves however, I also suspect LTC may be used for money laundering
10:45 mircea_popescu see, i bought 60 coins for 1k dollars in 2011. all through 2012 this was ~1k dollars loss.
10:45 ThickAsThieves which makes a market for it
10:45 mircea_popescu however, i never realised it, and so i can book a gain on that buy now if i feel like it.
10:45 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves what does that even mena ?
10:46 ThickAsThieves well people selling btc for ltc trying to mix things
10:46 MisterE trying to use the ratio to coin up
10:46 VanCleef mircea needs to cash out and drive it back to single digits
10:52 moiety my arsedness to deal with alts depletes everyday
10:52 ThickAsThieves Estimated Next Difficulty:6,029,609,483 (+20.43%)
10:55 VanCleef this bitcoiner that works upstairs from my office just jumped out from his window
10:57 deadweasel suicide?
10:57 MP: you have some fans in teh Neo thread :)
10:57 ThickAsThieves are you gonna pick his pockets?
10:58 VanCleef #bitcoinsucidehelpline
10:58 ThickAsThieves KS I think some of the quotes of MP you posted might be out of context
10:59 ThickAsThieves the first two lines, I think he was talking about Litecoin
10:59 ThickAsThieves but maybe not...
11:00 nubbins` https://twitter.com/RPMCBC/status/450263996713926656
11:00 ozbot Twitter / RPMCBC: Now playing ... uh.. D**k Surgery ...
11:00 * nubbins` cackles
11:00 nubbins` i wonder what sort of royalties i'm entitled to
11:00 VanCleef tat got out of neobee at the perfect time
11:01 TAT: really? whuddathunk? :)
11:01 ThickAsThieves odds are there were more perfect times VanCleef
11:01 VanCleef yeh?
11:01 I'm making fun of MPOE PR but she's not biting :(
11:01 :)
11:02 kakobrekla ;;gettrust [KS]
11:02 gribble Error: "KS" is not a valid command.
11:02 VanCleef i like it when she bites...just a lil bit no raking
11:02 ThickAsThieves hax
11:02 kakobrekla dafuq
11:02 kakobrekla you in the wot son?
11:02 I'm protected by the NSA
11:03 :)
11:03 kakobrekla its something you answer with yes or no, not a smiley face
11:03 kakobrekla but i take its a no
11:03 correct
11:04 (my previous "answer" was for 3 lines before)
11:05 mircea_popescu [KS] i am dearly beloved wherever idiots gather.
11:05 mircea_popescu nubbins` perhaps free moyle services for lyf ?
11:06 kakobrekla re beloved: things which are alike, in nature, grow to look alike.
11:07 nubbins` unfortunately i slept in, so i'm not sure which track they played
11:08 mircea_popescu kakobrekla hehehe
11:08 mircea_popescu "unfortunately confirmed with Niccocia that BREWSTER fled the country with thousands of coins from the IPVO and employees, unpaid employees and milions of dues to local businesses"
11:08 mircea_popescu no fucking way anyone was stupid enough to credit that dude with millions.
11:09 punkman1 why not?
11:11 mircea_popescu well i don't know how they do it in cyprus, but i've never extended millions in commercial credit on unpaid accounts.
11:11 mircea_popescu generally you let a customer walk with a few k's, then they pay that... takes someone even mid level many years to work themselves up to where they can run a tab in the millions
11:11 mircea_popescu whereas this teenager suddenly appeared last summer.
11:12 nubbins` "i'll pay you for all those magazine ads soon, i swear"
11:12 mircea_popescu [KS] yes, my two lines in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5984734#msg5984734 were actually a reply to ThickAsThieves' comment about litecoin
11:12 mircea_popescu you read teh rules ?
11:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 74 @ 0.06271513 = 4.6409 BTC [-] {8}
11:12 chetty I'll gladly pay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today
11:12 mircea_popescu nubbins` ok, that may be an exception, seeing how nobody is interested in buying ads, and ESPECIALLY not at list prices, so if you're the sort of schmuck that may be tricked into it and they have nothing else to run anyway,
11:13 nubbins` [KS] quoting out of context? tsk
11:13 mircea_popescu they just might run $50k worth of ads and pretend they're owed $1.050 mn
11:13 mircea_popescu but anyway, if you're curious : the last time i bought ads, cca 2006, i simply crossed out anyone who wasn't willing to go UNDER 50% of list price, and just negotiated with everyone else.
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 86 @ 0.06063386 = 5.2145 BTC [-] {5}
11:13 mircea_popescu on average i paid if memory serves ~31% or so.
11:14 mircea_popescu anyone thinking they can build a business out of paying ratecard has got a whole other layer of things wrong with their head.
11:16 nubbins` the problem is that btc space is still infested -- almost completely -- with rubes
11:16 ThickAsThieves rates get really good towards deadline too
11:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06050001 = 0.121 BTC [-]
11:16 nubbins` drooling idiots falling over each other to "provide services", "offer funds", "invest", etc
11:17 mircea_popescu myeah.
11:17 nubbins` too many people hanging off the wheels of the airplane, i tell ya
11:17 mircea_popescu but it's fuuuu...*splotch*
11:18 nubbins` "my privately minted 10btc round is worth 40btc"
11:18 nubbins` "we have a business plan"
11:18 nubbins` etc
11:18 mircea_popescu "we r ceo"
11:18 mircea_popescu sounds like y-m-c-a
11:18 moiety i was thinking D.I.S.C.O tune
11:19 nubbins` "this idea will sell itself"
11:20 mircea_popescu or that.
11:20 mircea_popescu jesus fuck i can't believe how broken the internet is. anyway, investopedia is wrong. the definition of commercial credit has nothing to do with any bank.
11:21 mircea_popescu commercial credit is created by any merchant that delivers goods to another but does not force them to pay right off.
11:21 nubbins` "we can make a hardware wallet"
11:21 mircea_popescu this de-facto creates some extra money in the system, and the aggregate is known as "commercial credit"
11:22 nubbins` "paper wallets are too confusing"
11:23 mircea_popescu MGK: I heard this is the center of bitcoin, hello center << lol i had just missed that. hello mgk. who are you ?
11:24 MP: I think you should pay me, I'm doing better PR than MPOE PR. Plus, I'm not deforming your words. Everything is verbatim! :)
11:25 nubbins` [KS], i think YOU should pay ME!
11:25 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/
11:25 ozbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
11:26 mircea_popescu "On the other hand professional also implies that you understand how context works, and will never ever under any circumstances omit relevant context when quoting, especially when such omission changes the meaning of your quote and the quoted then has to point this out to you"
11:26 MGK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498002.220
11:26 nubbins` ^
11:26 nubbins` rather, ^^
11:27 nubbins` "i pasted a bunch of lines out of context in the forums, didn't link to the log, or even bother putting it inside a quote block. this guarantees that not only will nobody read it, but nobody who does can even verify its authenticity. i think you should pay me."
11:27 nubbins` my sides, etc
11:28 Yup. Except it wasn't quoting if its not in "quotes".
11:28 http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp
11:28 nubbins` you'll do well here
11:28 nubbins` i can tell already
11:28 I'll post 2 lines to make that clear if you want.
11:28 mircea_popescu [KS] eh get out, you're an otherwise smart fellow about to paint himself in a corner trying to argue nonsense of the sake of nonsense.
11:28 nubbins` ^
11:29 mircea_popescu it happens, irc is fluid, just fix it and forget about it.
11:29 nubbins` thanks for the link to grammar book, btw
11:29 nubbins` i literally did not know what quotation marks were
11:29 mircea_popescu you mean "literally"
11:30 nubbins` "thanks"
11:30 kakobrekla does that mean 'being trashful'?
11:30 mircea_popescu "oh yeah ? well i had sex with your wife!"
11:31 mircea_popescu kakobrekla "that".
11:31 nubbins` http://distractify.com/people/the-30-most-unnecessary-uses-of-quotation-marks-in-history/
11:31 nubbins` sorry for linking to some shit upworthy-esque website
11:31 nubbins` but unnecessary quotes really tickle me
11:31 mircea_popescu o look. there's a bunch of cracked.coms now
11:32 bounce http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/decdd76e-b50e-11e3-a746-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2xRpg9i00
11:32 ozbot Save capitalism from the capitalists by taxing wealth - FT.com
11:32 blackwhite hola peeps
11:32 blackwhite http://digitalinterface.blogspot.com/2014/03/strangecoin-proposal-for-nonlinear.html
11:32 ozbot digital interface: Strangecoin: a nonlinear currency
11:32 mircea_popescu bounce sounds just about forum-y.
11:33 mircea_popescu blackwhite cliffnotes ?
11:33 kakobrekla its a bitcoin with if rand() ==== 4; goto fail;
11:33 deadweasel nubbins`: lol @ Objects in quotation marks. For, you know, reasons.
11:33 mircea_popescu deadweasel nubbins` you know someone on the forum put mircea popescu in quotes ?
11:33 nubbins` "security guard"
11:33 nubbins` mp lel
11:33 mircea_popescu like you know... i'm an allegedly me sort of thing
11:34 nubbins` that's cute
11:34 deadweasel allegedly
11:34 mircea_popescu ahahahaha ring bell for "MEAT SERVICE"
11:34 bounce $other_rag presented it as the short version of that guy's 600-odd page book. I'm sure he's got bad ideas mixed inextricably with the good like any economist would
11:34 mircea_popescu totally needs a nude gal next to the frozen turkeys.
11:35 "<mircea_popescu> like you know... i'm an allegedly me sort of thing" - I can see a quote coming... :)
11:35 mircea_popescu i dun recall where it was, maybe the neo bee thread
11:35 nubbins` putting "thanks" in quotes is the best
11:35 mircea_popescu He's the one who totally won't inject your breasts with cement. Totally not that one.
11:36 nubbins` if you are "pregnant"...
11:36 mircea_popescu i wonder how many women go around the daily chores of their cocksucking on camera life *thinking* they have saline solution breast implants
11:36 mircea_popescu when in fact it's really urine.
11:36 deadweasel yuck
11:37 deadweasel why yo titties so sloshy bitch?
11:38 mircea_popescu http://zeqps2k4t563atbs730zvzq12aw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/1858.jpg
11:38 mircea_popescu pretty good one
11:39 mircea_popescu picture john cleese going "well it's not bloody england now is it!"
11:40 nubbins` lel
11:41 mircea_popescu http://zeqps2k4t563atbs730zvzq12aw.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/quote6.jpg aaaahahaha
11:41 nubbins` immediately below: "management reserves the right to refuse service..."
11:41 Mats_cd03 id like my pee to be used to inflate boobies one day
11:41 Mats_cd03 what an honor
11:41 nubbins` WHOA
11:41 mircea_popescu you know "the throne" is common romanian parlance for the toilet bowl/seat ?
11:41 mircea_popescu russian too afaik
11:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00645971 = 2.5839 BTC [+] {9}
11:42 pankkake french too
11:42 MP there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=post;topic=289730.4140;num_replies=4145
11:43 happy? :)
11:43 nubbins` english too
11:43 I'm off. Good fun.
11:43 nubbins` aka porcelain throne
11:43 mircea_popescu "Only registered members are allowed to access this section." da fuck was that.
11:43 nubbins` aka the ralph & bob telephone
11:44 mircea_popescu "It’s 2010, and a passenger is trying to bring her live goldfish through security. One of my co-workers informs her that the fish can go through but the water cannot. The woman is on the verge of tears"
11:44 mircea_popescu that'd be so epic. i'd have just taken the motherfucking fish.
11:44 mircea_popescu seat it on the seat next to me
11:45 mircea_popescu "sorry, obama's direct orders"
11:45 nubbins` pop it in her mouth
11:45 mircea_popescu supreme court says this is not a fish.
11:45 mircea_popescu it's a tax.
11:45 nubbins` there's usually water for sale on the other side of security
11:45 mircea_popescu gold fish in mineral water
11:45 mircea_popescu ahem. i mean "gold fish in mineral water"
11:45 nubbins` i mean if the guard wasn't such a dick he'd have a glass of secure water on the other side of the xray
11:45 nubbins` she could just pluck the fish out and pass it thru
11:46 mircea_popescu stick a little q-tip in its mouyth first
11:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.65984978 = 1.9795 BTC [+] {3}
11:50 nubbins` swab for explosives
11:50 nubbins` good idea
11:50 mircea_popescu some fish puff up
11:50 mircea_popescu it's almost like an explosion.
11:50 nubbins` incidentally we were dismantled and swabbed when returning from colombia
11:50 nubbins` canada customs asked my travelling partner: "so how was the cocaine?"
11:51 nubbins` never saw a man lose color so quickly
11:51 mircea_popescu see, this is why you train the entourage.
11:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11763 @ 0.00094429 = 11.1077 BTC [-] {2}
11:51 nubbins` all they found on me was a GIGANTIC SPIDER hidden in my hammock
11:51 mircea_popescu the correct response is "i can't remember, his cock was just fucking fantastic i forgot all about everything else"
11:51 nubbins` i shouted JESUS CHRIST and the nice customs man stomped it to a paste
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.44074060 BTC to 4`860 shares, 50221 satoshi per share
11:59 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5985816#msg5985816
11:59 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
11:59 kakobrekla the high mpoe-pr priest has converted another one!
12:01 mircea_popescu lmao who's cassandra-pr
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12:18 moiety oh christ http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/30/this-200000-gold-ferrari-convertible-is-fit-for-a-kickboxing-champion-4683140/
12:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'pleasure throne' link from your 'twitter' seems to be a knock-off of the famous 'sybian' auto-wanker.
12:18 mircea_popescu certainly.
12:19 asciilifeform what's interesting is that the photo looks like it was taken at a tech trade show
12:19 mircea_popescu and the two look like a sort of midwestern bouvard & pecuchet
12:20 asciilifeform ;;google teledildonics
12:20 gribble Teledildonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics>; Teledildonics: The Weird, Wonderful World of Social Sex Toys: <http://gizmodo.com/teledildonics-the-weird-wonderful-world-of-social-sex-1516075707>; Teledildonics – there's an app for that! (NSFW) - Gizmag: <http://www.gizmag.com/lovepalz-iphone-teledildonics-app/24254/>
12:21 mircea_popescu "Levy argued that by 2050 "sex with robots will be commonplace."
12:22 mircea_popescu this is such a weak statement. sex with whatever has at hand has been commonplace since forever,
12:22 mircea_popescu inasmuch as by sex you mean copulation and ejaculation
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12:37 TestingUnoDosTre ;;ticker
12:37 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 440.04, Best ask: 440.37, Bid-ask spread: 0.33000, Last trade: 440.37, 24 hour volume: 24513.27393403, 24 hour low: 436.0, 24 hour high: 501.9, 24 hour vwap: 465.965967901
12:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00615339 = 0.1723 BTC [-] {5}
12:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.659499 BTC [-]
12:53 tg2 Teledildonics
12:55 tg2 xdotcommer ^
12:55 tg2 Has a phd in this field
12:57 benkay ;;gpg everify benkay
12:57 gribble Error: Could not find a pending authentication request from your hostmask. Either it expired, or you changed hostmask, or you haven't made one.
12:57 benkay ;;gpg eauth benkay
12:57 gribble Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~user@216-161-94-151.ptld.qwest.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/39F274AFBC7ACAC7
12:58 benkay ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:9b1f48c2d3f7308c2bfc37b583412ab487e081fbf3942171827ad295
12:58 benkay
12:58 gribble You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 39F274AFBC7ACAC7
12:59 benkay "A braindamaged assumption is that on account of any sort of “qualifications” or simply on account of your existence you’re pretty cool and certainly equal to anyone else. "
13:00 benkay the20year2: "The market is the best instrument for both pricing assets and allocating capital that humans have stumbled upon so far."
13:00 benkay i forgot all about rules and regs
13:00 mircea_popescu these words...
13:00 mircea_popescu they sound familiar
13:00 benkay just sucking up, mp
13:00 benkay http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/
13:00 mircea_popescu o are you a sock ?
13:00 ozbot #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
13:00 benkay i'm actually you
13:01 benkay can't you tell by my rating?
13:01 benkay it's all from your other socks.
13:02 mircea_popescu i aspire to have 365 pairs of socks
13:02 mircea_popescu that way, i can launder money only once a year.
13:02 benkay sounds sticky
13:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i've often wondered if there is, somewhere, a literal 'money laundry' - for trips to Dubai, etc. where a nanogram of coke merits the firing squad
13:04 mircea_popescu you can mostly just put it in the wash
13:04 AccountantPierre Bonjour
13:04 benkay allo
13:05 mircea_popescu salu
13:05 AccountantPierre I'm the treasurer over at the new Satoshi Nakamoto Institute. My colleague Daniel published a new piece today: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/hyperbitcoinization/ Interested to hear intelligent opinions/feedback
13:06 benkay ;;google good money drives out bad
13:06 gribble Gresham's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's_law>; Gresham's Law Definition | Investopedia: <http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/greshams-law.asp>; Gresham's law (economics) -- Encyclopedia Britannica: <http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/245850/Greshams-law>
13:06 AccountantPierre Thier's Law applies to Bitcoin, not Gresham's
13:06 benkay kinda an old saw, this 'demonetization' thing.
13:07 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre were you here before / are you related to Pierre Rochard ?
13:07 AccountantPierre That's me
13:07 mircea_popescu aite i'll read it once im done with this cunt size post for trilema.
13:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cunt size post ?!
13:08 asciilifeform ;;google go no go gauge
13:08 gribble Go/no go gauge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go/no_go_gauge>; GO/NO-GO GAUGE SETS | Brownells: <http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/measuring-tools/headspace-gauges/go-no-go-gauge-sets-prod26876.aspx>; Go No Go Gauge | eBay: <http://www.ebay.com/bhp/go-no-go-gauge>
13:08 benkay ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/posts/
13:08 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:08 benkay wd AccountantPierre
13:08 benkay are those collections available as a single file?
13:09 AccountantPierre benkay: enjoy https://github.com/NakamotoInstitute/nakamotoinstitute.org/blob/master/satoshiposts.json
13:11 benkay o wow mises circle's been busy too
13:12 AccountantPierre yep. We'll be transitioning all of our bitcoin posts from the mises circle to SNI
13:12 benkay AccountantPierre: why is your name still on the Foundation website?
13:12 benkay ;;gettrust AccountantPierre
13:12 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user AccountantPierre: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=AccountantPierre | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=AccountantPierre | Rated since: never
13:12 AccountantPierre Where?
13:13 benkay https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current
13:13 AccountantPierre huh, didn't know they publish that. I'm a big tent kind of guy, I post in the foundation forums
13:14 benkay careful your tent doesn't get lit on fire by bfl shareholders
13:14 benkay er
13:14 benkay preorderer
13:14 benkay arglarglargl
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1820 @ 0.00013796 = 0.2511 BTC [+] {3}
13:14 AccountantPierre haha
13:20 TestingUnoDosTre .d
13:20 ozbot 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1077 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.7098% in 6d 10h 37m 2s
13:22 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre who draw that cartoon ?
13:22 mircea_popescu drew*
13:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 450 @ 0.0064828 = 2.9173 BTC [+] {10}
13:24 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre also this is prolly of interest re the entire hyperinflation/demonetisaiton : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2014#468962
13:25 mircea_popescu it is an old saw, as benkay points out. that particular link references earlier reports provided by herbi who actually run the pinksheets and found the highest stock increase in the history of stock increases fails to come within one degree of magnitude of bitcoin's.
13:26 moiety http://i.imgur.com/e0tEBsV.jpg
13:26 mircea_popescu so to sum up, the piece suffers from the same problem illustrated by the opening cartoon : a mostly banal piece with very poor references. surely people outside of the mises circle must have written about these matters, perhaps for years.
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.65982142 = 4.6187 BTC [+] {4}
13:27 benkay put it on a pleasure throne, moiety
13:27 moiety hihi benkay, how goes today
13:27 asciilifeform 'pleasurethrone.com' appears defunct.
13:27 mircea_popescu also disqus is fucking evil.
13:27 asciilifeform guess they didn't sell that well
13:28 mircea_popescu can you picture a woman buying dildos from those two guys ?
13:28 AccountantPierre mircea_popescu: Daniel drew it. I'm thinking we'll phase out disqus and roll our own
13:28 mircea_popescu they couldn't pass the genuine article for free.
13:28 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre so then you know, say "Daniel drew it"
13:29 mircea_popescu generally speaking you have no better way to ruin a first impression on the web than unsourced material
13:29 mircea_popescu (other than perhaps bad tech solutions, a la disqus)
13:29 moiety mircea_popescu: i thought that lol - the sign behind them says, "you are limited only by your imagination" errr and those chaps
13:30 mircea_popescu moiety the idea of giving you a crown for fucking...
13:31 AccountantPierre I'll take that criticism, but we do have to allocate our time as best we can
13:31 benkay dunce cap
13:31 benkay gotta work that into the routine
13:31 mircea_popescu which part is the timesink ?
13:31 benkay dunce cap and collar
13:32 AccountantPierre creating a comments section
13:32 mircea_popescu oh
13:32 moiety lololol
13:32 AccountantPierre benkay: I'll get started on making one, I need it a lot as twenty something
13:32 benkay making which, AccountantPierre ?
13:32 AccountantPierre the dunce cap
13:33 mircea_popescu "There's no bigger joke than this mpex dude and his army of spamtroll donkeys." that's funny, because the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing a bunch of forum derps that he's running the largest shill stable in the world without having to actually pay a cent for it.
13:33 benkay o hey look i don't even need to make my own sexy acoutremont any more, thanks -assets
13:33 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre you know you can just register #satoshi-institute
13:33 mircea_popescu or /we
13:33 mircea_popescu "if you want to discuss our articles, click here"
13:33 benkay nubbins`: lol'd @ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2014&bots=true#592998
13:34 nubbins` bright fella
13:34 AccountantPierre I like that idea, the issue is the lack of distinct threads
13:36 benkay AccountantPierre: emails.
13:36 benkay append to post.
13:36 benkay do it ghetto stylee
13:36 mircea_popescu may turn out to be an advantage. but anyway.
13:36 benkay best thing is this makes for no comments
13:36 mircea_popescu the main focus should be much better integration. i can appreciate that a trained accountant wants to keep things well separate
13:36 mircea_popescu but the internet does not, nor does the brain.
13:36 mircea_popescu nor, for that matter, bitcoin.
13:36 mircea_popescu so, reference more.
13:37 AccountantPierre true. Appreciate your thoughts. If people knew git they could do a pull request with their comment
13:37 mircea_popescu conversely, maybe only getting comments from people who know git is a blessing.
13:38 mircea_popescu i know only talking to people who can run irc has worked ok for me these past coupla years.
13:38 benkay GIT COMMENTS
13:38 benkay HORY SHIT
13:38 mircea_popescu benkay u jelly ?
13:38 benkay what, of an idea? get lost.
13:38 mircea_popescu u r aintcha.
13:39 mircea_popescu you knew that email klutz is klutzy
13:39 benkay or the massive corpus of ideas you have access to recombine on demand?
13:39 benkay my life is extremely klutzy
13:39 mircea_popescu so so helly :D
13:39 benkay one day i'll be old too
13:39 benkay you'll be senile
13:39 benkay we'll be even
13:40 mircea_popescu hehehe
13:41 benkay http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/01/24/1750472/why-its-tough-being-in-an-altcoin-cartel/
13:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 276 @ 0.00088832 = 0.2452 BTC [+]
13:41 ozbot Why it’s tough being in an altcoin cartel | FT Alphaville
13:42 benkay link sux disregard
13:42 Mats_cd03 nub
13:43 benkay feelings
13:44 nubbins` heh apparently the cbc introduced our band as "D-something surgery"
13:45 nubbins` bit too racy for 10am on a sunday, i guess
13:45 mircea_popescu nubbins` so are you sold out yet ?
13:46 benkay lol girls mom just called me
13:46 benkay "hi b plz get k to call me i'd like to talk to her about something"
13:46 mircea_popescu can i tell all the chicks i used to listen to dick surgery back before they were all commercialised crap ?
13:46 nubbins` we're technically not sellouts until we get airplay on a station that isn't supported by tax dollars ;D
13:47 benkay girls voicemail has been filled with momversations. now its time for mine.
13:49 nubbins` "A guy orders 25 hits. I send him a 5x5 sheet. His feedback reads "The hit was very large but I managed to fit it in my mouth. The lines were neat. Good trip". I wonder if the guy thought the 25 hits were one!?"
13:49 nubbins` hahah
13:49 benkay mircea_popescu: my klutzy ass would implement patches over email anyways
13:50 nubbins` guy takes 5000ug of LSD. "good trip."
13:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00094253 = 11.7345 BTC [-] {4}
13:51 mircea_popescu well... you can't really od on the stuff can you ?
13:53 nubbins` not in the sense that you'll cause damage to your body, no
13:53 nubbins` psychological effects, different story
13:54 Mats_cd03 urban myth
13:54 nubbins` great way to get a permanent thousand-yard stare
13:54 nubbins` Mats_cd03: i'm not saying "guy now thinks he's an orange" or anything
13:54 tg2 I think you could probably kill yourself as a result of taking to much lsd
13:54 tg2 But not an od on it per se
13:55 Mats_cd03 ive eaten vials of the stuff and im mostly all here
13:55 tg2 Just getting yourself into a dangerous predicament because of it
13:55 BCB what is going on with Neo and Bee at Havelock
13:55 nubbins` nod, worst that usually happens is that people start thinking you're a bit odd
13:56 benkay then your hair goes all frizzy and white
13:56 nubbins` but the same could happen from any number of intense experiences
13:56 nubbins` BCB: nothing ;D
13:56 benkay BCB: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/28_havelock-freezes-neobee-trading-thickasthieves-steps-down-as-fund-manager.html
13:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 86 @ 0.007 = 0.602 BTC [-]
13:56 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518131.msg5727530#msg5727530[color=green
13:57 ozbot Herp Rating Agency
13:57 mircea_popescu herp had a rating agency ?
13:57 mircea_popescu the forum never ends.
13:57 mircea_popescu "Herp Rating Agency is an initiative born out of the need for due diligence in the Bitcoin ecosystem."
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 142 @ 0.007 = 0.994 BTC [-]
13:57 benkay neo and bee - buy
13:57 benkay a++ rating would read again
13:57 BCB benkay, hmmm... another bitcoin scam?
13:57 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/7w1dawk.jpg
13:57 kakobrekla nubbins` this thing you linked earlier from the log, its in the bash, this one precisely:
13:57 kakobrekla BCB http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=43
13:58 benkay BCB: save your cash and assume anything on Havelock is a scam.
13:58 mircea_popescu few better ways to establish credibility than to awkwardly cut away the watermark on some unrelated design
13:58 nubbins` kakobrekla, one of my finer moments
13:58 benkay ;;later tell JorgePasada hey lookie you're famous now: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=90
13:58 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:59 BCB benkay, so neo and bee is as scammy as havelock?
13:59 kakobrekla no, the other way around i think
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 1.41654500 BTC to 21`793 shares, 6500 satoshi per share
13:59 BCB havelock is as scammy os neo and bee
13:59 nubbins` nah man, HIF is totally gonna pay dividends like they promised
13:59 benkay BCB: impossible to differentiate incompetence and malice from this dimension
14:00 benkay hey youse guise today i learned bitcoin doesn't have the discipline to be a monopoly
14:00 nubbins` they're totally not an order of magnitude short on volume-based trading fees either
14:00 benkay http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/01/23/1749972/attack-of-the-killer-rentiers/?
14:00 ozbot Attack of the killer rentiers | FT Alphaville
14:00 BCB benkay, tuur demeester was a big proponent of neo and bee
14:00 benkay BCB: so?
14:00 nubbins` turd meister?
14:00 benkay shh nubbins` where are your manners
14:00 nubbins` A+++++ would trust based on name
14:00 BCB benkay, I thought he was one of the good guys ( like mircea popescu )
14:01 benkay what is good?
14:01 kakobrekla good is bad.
14:01 BCB benkay, does his due dilligence.
14:01 MykelSIlver You can't even trust Satoshi
14:01 BCB everyone just reads press releases like they are FACT
14:01 benkay inability to distinguish between people who say things that sound nice to your ears and people who routinely make good calls is the source of a lot of wasted BTC.
14:01 BCB coindesk is the worst thing to come along in bitcoin land
14:01 mircea_popescu BCB there's a lengthy history of dubious ventures enlisting otherwise good guys who are a little bit naive and a little bit in over their head.
14:02 mircea_popescu labcoin did it, activemining did it, pirate definitely did it.
14:02 benkay BCB: i've yet to read a thing from him that was particularly useful. granted, i've not dug in depth.
14:02 kakobrekla labcoin was not a naive thing
14:02 BCB benkay, I don't read him all all but he is all over the place
14:02 kakobrekla nor was pirate
14:02 mircea_popescu people are slow to learn this lesson, especially because otherwise good guys with a diploma imagine retarded shit a la "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" and eschew sucking their cocks.
14:02 kakobrekla active i dunno.
14:02 benkay BCB: all over where? i'm pretty well read and he doesn't even register on my feeds.
14:02 BCB mircea_popescu, what about jon matonis
14:02 mircea_popescu there's this philosophy of "do everything by yourself" prevalent in the us, and it is getting people in trouble in bitcoin space something fierce.
14:03 kakobrekla what about roger ver
14:03 BCB kakobrekla, criminal
14:03 mircea_popescu BCB im not about to discuss individuals unless i have something specific to say.
14:03 BCB mircea_popescu, shocking. I guess I should MOP PR
14:03 BCB *ask
14:04 mircea_popescu kakobrekla i dunno, re pirate say, i believe people like copumpkin were moreover clueless and well meaning in their dysfunctional, social-justice-y sort of way
14:04 kakobrekla you meant MOB PR?
14:04 mircea_popescu rather than outright criminal.
14:04 mircea_popescu BCB she's worse in that respect. by the time she's calling out your name you're going down.
14:05 BCB mircea_popescu, the pirate victims were just greedy
14:05 BCB blinded by greed
14:05 benkay AccountantPierre: this is what you want to be writing http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2014/01/06/1733392/when-qe-becomes-decentralised/
14:05 BCB pigs get fatter hogs get slaughtered
14:05 mircea_popescu benkay what is with you and ft blogs. they're unreadable.
14:05 the20year2 benkay: which market?
14:06 benkay the20year2: are you serious?
14:06 the20year2 i just ctrl+f your sentence and didn't read much previous from there
14:06 benkay The market
14:06 benkay i don't--
14:06 BCB mircea_popescu, what about the bitcoin foundation
14:07 benkay uuaghuaghuaa
14:07 benkay mircea_popescu: must be my broken american brainz
14:07 benkay (Diablo-D3: graiiinz)
14:07 BCB has anyone read the new o'reiley bitcoin book?
14:08 Diablo-D3 benkay: hee
14:08 mircea_popescu BCB teh scamdation has collected btc donations, failed to release reports and then collected more btc "donations" from various scams it vouched for.
14:08 kakobrekla BCB the questions you are asking re people and stuff have mostly been talked about. search around the logs and blogs, this is not a spoonfeeding party
14:08 mircea_popescu pretty much the best way to ensure you won't get anywhere in bitcoin is to involve yourself with the bitcoin foundation.
14:08 BCB kakobrekla, I'm bored. Sorry
14:09 mircea_popescu it's roughly speaking the nambla of this space.
14:09 kakobrekla North American Man/Boy Love Association ?
14:09 mircea_popescu the same
14:09 BCB kakobrekla, I'm writing a bash implementation of a blockchain parser and I needed to take a break
14:09 AccountantPierre benkay: "private QE" is as played out as "monetization". Unsurprisingly I prefer my own analytical framework: http://themisescircle.org/blog/2013/12/15/the-bitcoin-central-banks-perfect-monetary-policy/
14:10 BCB AccountantPierre, I thought you guys were closing down the misescircle
14:10 TestingUnoDosTre ;;ticker
14:10 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 456.55, Best ask: 457.97, Bid-ask spread: 1.42000, Last trade: 457.97, 24 hour volume: 29003.93489152, 24 hour low: 436.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 463.413765818
14:10 AccountantPierre Not closing down, but transitioning bitcoin stuff to SNI
14:10 BCB ahh
14:10 benkay AccountantPierre: you said synergistically
14:11 benkay my eyes are bleeding
14:11 AccountantPierre benkay: you're welcome
14:12 benkay AccountantPierre: fiduciary media aren't impossible, just nigh impossible
14:12 BCB mircea_popescu, BTW i'm an excellent monopoly player
14:12 benkay with a TB blockchain, they may become necessary.
14:13 mircea_popescu BCB it's a trivial game really.
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 57 @ 0.007 = 0.399 BTC [-]
14:14 novusordo it was fun to play for BTC a year or so back
14:14 novusordo some OTCers made a channel for it, don't remember what it was
14:14 AccountantPierre benkay: that quickly gets into a semantic debate of what fiduciary media is. I don't view off-blockchain transactions with coinbase-bux to be fiduciary media. You'd have to create something I can send to a bitcoin address and the recipient thinks its bitcoins. Nigh impossible indeed
14:14 mircea_popescu i vaguely recall the monopoly btc thing
14:15 benkay that's a neat position on fidiuciary media.
14:15 the20year2 Are you an accountant?
14:16 novusordo mircea_popescu: i remember playing it with aethero and lucidlepidoptera, lol
14:16 mircea_popescu o yeah, check this out, a match made in heaven.
14:16 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre what'd you need to be paid to audit the20year2's rental properties corp ?
14:16 mircea_popescu novusordo are those two still together ?
14:16 novusordo not a clue
14:17 mircea_popescu stormy was pretty hot. aethero was... pretty strange.
14:17 AccountantPierre a real audit or just some specific due diligence procedures?
14:17 mircea_popescu a real audit.
14:17 mircea_popescu certify his book.
14:17 AccountantPierre estimated amount of assets? visiting properties could get expensive, where are they?
14:17 nubbins` aethero was just mentioned in -otc
14:17 mircea_popescu all in ohio.
14:17 nubbins` regarding ops that went bad
14:17 the20year2 ~$500k of assets including bitcoin
14:18 the20year2 6 properties, central Ohio , although i don't know if physical inspection would be absolutely needed when you could just get deed copies
14:18 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre afaik it's not customary to do a ground inspection if torrens title is available neh ?
14:18 mircea_popescu o wait, the us doesn't use torrens
14:18 the20year2 We file deeds at the county auditor
14:19 * mircea_popescu is pretty well clueless as to real estate auditing procedures adequate for central ohio
14:19 AccountantPierre depends on risk assessment at beginning of audit
14:19 the20year2 I'm not aware of any state that uses torrens, though canada I believe does
14:19 the20year2 What kind of risk assessment?
14:20 mircea_popescu the20year2 well if the auditor suspects fraud or under some court mandates etc.
14:20 AccountantPierre risk of material misstatement of the financials. $25k for a one man cpa shop.
14:21 the20year2 Ouch
14:21 mircea_popescu AccountantPierre for my own repository of factoids, what's the insurance premium hike look like after a forfeit for material misstatement ?
14:22 AccountantPierre Insurance for the CPA firm or for the audit client? Either way, no clue, never dealt with that kind of insurance
14:22 mircea_popescu the insurane firm
14:22 the20year2 I wasn't aware they sold insurance to CPAs
14:22 mircea_popescu uh, you're not insured ?!
14:22 mircea_popescu whoa ?!
14:22 the20year2 I'm not a CPA
14:22 AccountantPierre there are thousands of people at my firm, division of labor, someone else takes care of that
14:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0009444 = 16.1492 BTC [+] {2}
14:22 AccountantPierre "my firm" as in "my employer"
14:23 mircea_popescu aha.
14:23 BCB mircea_popescu, I could reccomend a cpa for around 10K for a full audit
14:23 mircea_popescu kinda besides the point now isn't it.
14:24 the20year2 When we were looking for book audits for a TSX listing possibility they ran $15k/yr
14:24 the20year2 Of course $25k might not be terribly bad if you're sending a guy to Ohio to physically visit properties and review deed copies
14:25 benkay kinda one of those things you expect a REIT to be able to afford.
14:25 BCB novusordo, what ever happened to aethero, anyone know?
14:25 the20year2 Not for one with only 6 properties and less than $500k of properties, that's 5% a year in just audits
14:25 BCB mircea_popescu, hire a certified CPA in ohio
14:26 the20year2 Would make alot more sense to just hire a 3rd party agent or title company to do the investigation, hire a title search on all the properties, will run you $75/ea
14:26 AccountantPierre Yeah, hire a local guy, not a big 4 firm based out of nyc
14:26 benkay doesn't really sound like a REIT at that scale. more like a hodgepodge.
14:26 the20year2 $150-$200 for lawyer review
14:28 mircea_popescu BCB he tried to start some sort of business, listed it on btct if memory serves, and well... just like all the others.
14:28 BCB mircea_popescu, he left a lot of guys on otc and btcjam holding the bag as well
14:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.05699999 = 0.342 BTC [+]
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.00714999 = 0.286 BTC [+] {2}
14:29 mircea_popescu yeah i guess this match wasn't made in heaven in any sense. a well :p
14:31 the20year2 We were on BF when they closed up
14:43 mircea_popescu moiety https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5988372#msg5988372 they are on to you nao my fine scottish friend.
14:46 the20year2 anyone understand what's going on with neobee?
14:49 benkay there are two facts.
14:50 moiety mircea_popescu: lolol holy fuck lol i hope mpoe-pr isnt offended. i would like to reply, they should go here http://i.imgur.com/Z7lAjiF.jpg
14:50 Duffer1 must be odd to be called a scammer by minerpart
14:51 benkay http://f3000.tumblr.com/
14:51 ozbot FUCK3000
14:55 andyfletcher It is all getting more than a bit personal on bitcointalk
15:02 mircea_popescu moiety in mpoe-pr's own words, "incredible how the ciucius of the world manage to sound exactly alike. no matter their nationalities and motha tongues."
15:03 mircea_popescu in other news, reddit does feelings : no matter their nationalities and motha tongues
15:04 mircea_popescu oops
15:04 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/15vjvc/i_was_violently_raped_last_summer_i_know_im/
15:04 novusordo BCB: no idea, I never got anything back from the small amount I put into his business that never got off the ground
15:05 novusordo haven't heard anything from/about him since that ship sunk
15:07 mircea_popescu benkay seems like a happy couple.
15:08 benkay rly? i see a few different both boys and girls
15:09 benkay just contri-putin
15:11 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/1764871/
15:11 ozbot dpaste: #1764871
15:11 mircea_popescu meanwhile the ever vigilant forum is wiping out the neobee discussion
15:11 mircea_popescu what was the link to that copy ?
15:12 moiety i hadn't read that page, her comment about all true scotsmen make a lot more sense now mircea_popescu lol can you pass on my apologies
15:12 benkay mircea_popescu: why are you subjecting us to forum :(
15:14 kakobrekla >A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator.
15:14 kakobrekla oh yeah, i got a huge pile of those too
15:14 ThickAsThieves that's some heavt moderation
15:15 ThickAsThieves heavy*
15:15 ThickAsThieves i saw, i think it was, extrader saying he knew some way to get a "fudster" moderated
15:15 ThickAsThieves looks like he is on th ehunt
15:17 mircea_popescu https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ipvo-multiple-exchanges-neo-bee-lmb-holdings.167762/page-217
15:17 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings | Page 217 | Bitcointa.lk
15:17 mircea_popescu better bitcointalk, basically.
15:20 tg2 Whoa whoa hold the phone
15:20 tg2 there's drama? On the internet?
15:23 tg2 http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/993/tumblr_m0wb2xz9Yh1r08e3p.jpg
15:25 benkay stahp
15:25 benkay ;;ticker
15:25 benkay .bait
15:25 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 459.46, Best ask: 461.35, Bid-ask spread: 1.89000, Last trade: 461.35, 24 hour volume: 29874.63703293, 24 hour low: 436.0, 24 hour high: 500.0, 24 hour vwap: 463.247782601
15:25 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/a61444ffeb14607d25a4f21c7c53f990/tumblr_mpg854pH0k1r62m2no1_1280.jpg
15:25 benkay holy smokes 450?
15:25 mircea_popescu is that a bvad thing ?
15:26 benkay psh yeah doncha know bitcoins only useful when it goes up in value
15:26 benkay aw man
15:26 benkay in the space of 1 week i have forgotten everything about the conformal btc libs
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15:44 mircea_popescu hahaha check out bitcointa.lk : mpoe-pr is the only one with an avatar.
15:45 BCB mircea_popescu, did you fund bitcointa.lk
15:46 mircea_popescu nope.
15:46 mircea_popescu the owner linked it here a while bakc
15:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 0.19871000 BTC to 320`500 shares, 62 satoshi per share
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06353 = 0.6353 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0464 = 0.1392 BTC [+]
16:15 steven-__ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtrIjzsceM&feature=youtu.be&t=17m0s andreas antonopoulos doing his thing
16:15 ozbot Is Bitcoin a flash in the pan? - Coinsumm.it - YouTube
16:15 steven-__ couldn't help checking out a few of the talks even after reading benkays post
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
16:16 mircea_popescu what, STILL ?
16:16 mircea_popescu 2011 called, it wants its rethorical questions back please.
16:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0556 = 0.1112 BTC [-] {2}
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.10144642 BTC [-]
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62503539 BTC [-]
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0062174 = 0.286 BTC [-] {3}
16:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62503539 BTC [-]
16:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4697 @ 0.00094301 = 4.4293 BTC [-]
16:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62503539 = 1.8751 BTC [-] {2}
16:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00094037 = 3.5264 BTC [-]
16:45 benkay http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Rwanda+years+later/9674013/story.html << surely this has happened before
16:45 ozbot Rwanda: 20 years later
16:46 benkay obviously a lot of that is NGO pearl clutching for funds.
16:47 mircea_popescu ^
16:47 cazalla steven-__: that guy makes me cringe
16:47 benkay "Survivors groups worry that 20 years after the genocide, international funding will dry up completely"
16:47 benkay le sigh
16:50 the20year2 how many funds were made available for the holomodor?
16:51 mircea_popescu actually people did try to donate
16:51 mircea_popescu many us jewish people with fresh memories, plenty of others
16:54 nubbins` pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5990321#msg5990321
16:55 pankkake thanks
16:55 pankkake I do know him, which is bothering me
16:55 pankkake :(
16:55 nubbins` never underestimate the tenacity of butthurt internet people
16:55 Duffer1 i wrote him a haiku
16:56 Duffer1 that dotcoin scammer talks like alberto armandi
16:57 pankkake he told me in PM ps: i see you speak german its called " Kopffick " thats what happen to you now
16:57 pankkake I don't speak german and google doesn't help me
16:57 benkay on an entirely different topic, what are good "me@mydomain" emails?
16:57 benkay not horrendously unprofessional
16:57 benkay not stupidly web2.0
16:58 pankkake firstname@lastname ?
16:58 benkay eg "me@"
16:58 pankkake me@firstnamelastname
16:58 benkay dorp
16:59 pankkake or something related to what you do? say you're a plumper name joe, me@joeplumber
16:59 nubbins` me@benkay.com
16:59 benkay holy shit benkay.com is available
17:00 nubbins` BETTER HURRY
17:00 benkay first time since i got on the internet
17:00 * nubbins` registers
17:00 pankkake there are bots auto-registering names
17:00 pankkake just hope they don't crawl http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/
17:00 benkay no i have the domain, that's fine.
17:01 benkay i'm just startled to the sushi joint's moved on from the domain in question
17:01 pankkake I maintain links to band websites, they're replaced by spam very quickly after expiration
17:11 artifexd benkay Do you see a problem with me@whatever.com emails?
17:14 mircea_popescu "Interesting, Romain Bignon is a Python dev. Pankkake had some python work done for MP"
17:14 mircea_popescu clearly.
17:16 nubbins` interestingly, these idiots aren't working for scotland yard
17:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62504019 = 3.1252 BTC [+] {3}
17:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05699884 = 0.114 BTC [+]
17:28 mircea_popescu well, derpland yard. just as good.
17:28 nubbins` "perhaps we should pursue legal action"
17:29 nubbins` yes. perhaps.
17:29 mircea_popescu haha, they are behind 7 lawyers.
17:29 nubbins` !!
17:29 mircea_popescu "Unless you prove otherwise I think it is fair and right that me and dotcoin both see that quite a bit of evidence points to you being Romain Bignon."
17:29 mircea_popescu logically.
17:29 nubbins` y'know, prove a negative
17:29 mircea_popescu unless you bring me a praline i shall eat your cake.
17:30 mircea_popescu pankkake anyway, dun freak out. buncha forum derps.
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64999977 BTC [+]
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.064 = 0.256 BTC [+]
17:31 pankkake the real issue is that it's not me they're stalking
17:31 pankkake I'm pretty used to threats
17:31 mircea_popescu benkay what's wrong with initial-name@corp ?
17:32 mircea_popescu pankkake so contact the person, offer to appear as witness, they can prolly get teh gendarmerie involved
17:32 nubbins` honestly the oddest thing about this whole "everyone is mp" thing is that there's a much, much simpler explanation, and people just refuse to believe. seriously, as if you having a hundred sock accounts, each with a distinct writing style, is a more plausible explanation than you paying someone to post on the forums
17:32 pankkake he's a friend
17:32 benkay artifexd: me@whatever doesn't really convey the right image
17:32 mircea_popescu nubbins` why would i pay people to pretend they're not speaking for me ?
17:33 pankkake and I don't want friends to be bothered
17:33 benkay mircea_popescu: i've yet to settle on a thing. canvassing people who've seen things, you see.
17:33 pankkake of course he's also used to threats :D
17:33 artifexd What image do you want to convey?
17:33 nubbins` why would people think pankkake is you?
17:33 benkay artifexd: excellent question.
17:33 nubbins` why would anybody anything :D it boggles the mind
17:33 mircea_popescu im kinda basking in the glory of being... mp. da fuck do i care, teh forum is going to dox the hell out of "mircea popescu is really... this romanian guy... by the name... mircea popescu"
17:33 nubbins` ^
17:34 nubbins` heh
17:34 nubbins` IMPOSSIBRU
17:34 nubbins` next you'll tell me satoshi nakam... wait.
17:34 mircea_popescu those are the words that must never be spoken nubbins`
17:34 nubbins` oh fuck did i let the cat out of the bag?
17:34 nubbins` kakobrekla can you edit the logs plz
17:35 nubbins` and thus a new conspiracy is born
17:36 mircea_popescu in my forum reports, "ragehead scammer derping all over pankakke https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=545220.new#new"
17:36 mircea_popescu right next to
17:36 mircea_popescu "some noob made an anti-davout hate thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=548245.0"
17:36 mircea_popescu what is it with you french people.
17:37 pankkake davout has the best haters right now: http://www.actubitcoin.fr/
17:37 kakobrekla >French members are tired.
17:37 kakobrekla zomg. endoftheworld.swf
17:37 kakobrekla literally.
17:37 pankkake you might have trouble reading his French, as he has terrible spelling
17:37 kakobrekla with quotes.
17:38 mircea_popescu o actu short for actuel or w/e. clever.
17:38 kakobrekla i dunno, someone write to him to have a nap.
17:38 davout "actu" is "news"
17:38 mircea_popescu "David Francois est née le 29 Mai 1983, âgé donc de 30 ans" why teh fag glasses davout ?!
17:38 mircea_popescu "Il est née à Leiden au Pays-Bas."
17:38 mircea_popescu fascinating.
17:39 davout n'est-ce pas
17:39 pankkake so davout used to be a girl
17:39 nubbins` heh
17:39 nubbins` more like davPOUT, amirite?
17:39 mircea_popescu ahahaha
17:40 mircea_popescu davpoutine
17:40 mircea_popescu "Je soupçonne un montage fiscal permettant une fraude massive ."
17:40 davout mircea_popescu: thanks, didn't know about the english thread
17:40 mircea_popescu well it's good that they soup cony or whatever.
17:41 nubbins` when i lived in ottawa, it was not uncommon for clueless anglos to approach a poutine stand and loudly declare JE VOUDRAIS UNE POUTAIN
17:41 pankkake hahaha
17:41 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=545292.msg5956581#msg5956581 << check out pankkake trying to get forum noobs to pay for his nosejob :D
17:41 ozbot ActiveMining thread mods are actively trying to scam people
17:42 nubbins` quqbecois insert the tiniest hint of an "s" after the "t" in poutine
17:42 nubbins` poutseen
17:42 pankkake I have been told I have a beautiful nose
17:42 pankkake and my nose job was an inside job
17:42 mircea_popescu hahaha
17:42 tg2 Somebody say poutine?
17:42 pankkake it's call turbinoplastie
17:42 pankkake TURBINES
17:42 mircea_popescu rhinoturbinoplasty
17:43 nubbins` turbhinoplasty
17:43 nubbins` tg2 many times
17:43 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530306.0
17:43 ozbot VIRCUREX IS RUNNING WITH NEGATIVE NAV: BEWARE EVERYBODY
17:43 mircea_popescu lalala
17:43 pankkake last thing I did was my teeth getting scrubbed for two hours straight. it's fun
17:43 mircea_popescu i guess it's time for some rating
17:43 pankkake I go back this week
17:44 mircea_popescu ;;rated kumala
17:44 gribble You have not yet rated user kumala
17:44 mircea_popescu ;;gpg eauth
17:44 gribble (gpg eauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered a GPG key with the bot for this to work. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes.
17:44 nubbins` one evening at a poutine stand in downtown ottawa, guy in front of me waits in line for 2-3 minutes and orders a bucket of water when his turn comes. worker says "a bucket of water? why?"
17:44 mircea_popescu ;;gpg eauth mircea_popescu
17:44 gribble Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
17:44 nubbins` guy responds "your garbage can is on fire"
17:44 benkay lol canada
17:44 nubbins` right?
17:44 mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8668ebe8d03a1f2c32d4fc1acd38cf1a08ea8c443c55528ea0165ba4
17:44 gribble You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
17:44 nubbins` can't just bust into the front of the line :D
17:44 benkay you people.
17:45 mircea_popescu ;;rate kumala -10 consumate scammer. vircurex, cryptostocks, an entire stack.
17:45 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user kumala has been recorded.
17:45 nubbins` i think it's "consummate"
17:45 mircea_popescu ;;rate kumala -10 consummate scammer. vircurex, cryptostocks, an entire stack.
17:45 mircea_popescu ty.
17:45 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kumala has changed from -10 to -10.
17:46 mircea_popescu ;;rate hanbot 5 The forum loves her a lot.
17:46 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user hanbot has changed from 3 to 5.
17:46 pankkake nice nickname
17:48 mircea_popescu "When people try to launch start-up, like chronocoin in france, or beegcoin, or others, immediately, he try to attack website, he writes aggresive messages and delete topic."
17:48 mircea_popescu for shame.
17:49 davout many delete. such shame. wow
17:49 tg2 That English it's for shame
17:49 pankkake sad part is, their French isn't any better
17:50 mircea_popescu down with this oppression from leiden! people wish to be free and launch assets!
17:50 nubbins` "nubbins you may be asked or told to hand over this info by dotcoins lawyer, I would suggest you do that sooner rather than later."
17:50 nubbins` my fucking SIDES
17:50 nubbins` somebody's paying for side surgery
17:50 nubbins` and it ain't me
17:50 mircea_popescu i ain't payin for your sides
17:50 mircea_popescu they were broken when you got here
17:50 nubbins` hmm, is that why they're always aching?
17:50 mircea_popescu you're a sideist
17:51 nubbins` better that than a frontist :D
17:51 pankkake "NotLambchop is a Belize-registered virtual identity law firm wholly owned by TheMiracle, which represents itself and its profits. We (they) are the legal council representing pankkake et al. and others too" :D
17:51 davout nubbins`: markus weiler, he is the archetypal village idiot
17:51 tg2 Daveout du you even sock bro
17:51 nubbins` ;;google frontist
17:51 gribble Frontist Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontist_Party>; AWL school: Economism and frontist delusions - Communist Party of ...: <http://www.cpgb.org.uk/home/weekly-worker/968/awl-school-economism-and-frontist-delusions>; Transverzala SREMSKI FRONT ist.deo.flv - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia9SdQwiPHg>
17:51 tg2 learn2sock
17:51 mircea_popescu that guy's from something awful, amusingly enough.
17:51 davout tg2: wut
17:52 mircea_popescu davout he's just trying to be part of the cool kids, dun fret.
17:52 nubbins` heh
17:52 nubbins` i like the hint of empty threat
17:52 davout tg2: may i see your haters please?
17:52 nubbins` you may be asked... or TOLD
17:52 mircea_popescu "Tell you what - I'm at the UKDCA meeting in London on Monday - anyone is welcome to come and accuse me of whatever to my face, when I can likewise see your face and we can communicate like humans."
17:52 mircea_popescu someone should go and moon him.
17:53 tg2 I kindly direct you to benkay
17:54 mircea_popescu "If you continue to post in the thread you will be reported to theymos who could take further action. You have already been asked to stop posting."
17:54 tg2 Don't worry about getting ousted from the French section, the French have historically demonstrated difficulty in that field.
17:54 mircea_popescu this is like usagi level of internet threatening
17:55 nubbins` STOP OR I WILL TELL TUPPERWARE I MEAN THERMOS
17:55 benkay don't forget to burp the thermos
17:55 mircea_popescu "My father emotionally, physically and sexually abused me. I moved out at the age of seventeen, hoping to escape all the pain, only to find out that it would follow me. My psyche and boundaries were very damaged and I did not realize that because of my upbringing and appearance I attracted sexual predators.
17:55 mircea_popescu After marrying at age twenty-one, I discovered my husband was a porn addict. So great was his sexual perversity and infidelity that I was at a loss to know what to do to save my marriage. Finally, after five years of marriage, I sought counseling from my church pastor."
17:56 tg2 Crisse que les français sont des bébés lala
17:56 mircea_popescu ^upcoming ipo.
17:56 nubbins` would buy
17:56 benkay now iploling feelings
17:56 tg2 "Mon thread d'innocent s'est fait effacer, qq"
17:57 mircea_popescu twist : "I had no idea that this man had a history of being a sexual predator. He had been moved from church to church after each report of sexual abuse but no other action was taken, nor was the new congregation warned. After several counseling sessions he gained my trust."
17:57 tg2 Rape magnet
17:58 tg2 There's an app for that
18:05 benkay candy crush 'character's on nyse for ipo?
18:05 benkay cooooooool.
18:05 benkay http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/30/business/in-some-ways-its-looking-like-1999-in-the-stock-market.html
18:05 the20year2 shock, surprise
18:06 mircea_popescu yeah. in some ways it's looking like 1929
18:07 benkay "soup lines" -> "soup mobs"
18:07 the20year2 tech may be in a bubble? No way
18:07 the20year2 those are lies
18:08 davout ;;eauth davout
18:08 gribble Request successful for user davout, hostmask davout!~davout@unaffiliated/davout. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/13288EAB01713428
18:08 mircea_popescu and by tech we mean, of course... "hey ma, i made a website"
18:08 mircea_popescu slash iphone app
18:09 benkay this is tech specific and not endemic to fiat-denominated stocks?
18:09 nubbins` slash i need money for my idea
18:09 * benkay scrambles for the 25-year s/p chart
18:09 davout ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e0bfc984b8a7ad54d1c869b166c2bf660e57f8598a81d67ec713754c
18:09 gribble You are now authenticated for user davout with key 13288EAB01713428
18:09 davout ;;rated ThomasV
18:09 gribble You have not yet rated user ThomasV
18:10 davout ;;rate ThomasV 3 electrum
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18:10 jurov ThomasV is etotheipi?
18:11 pankkake etotheipi is Armory
18:11 jurov ohhhh sry
18:15 nubbins` i let four pounds of ground pork spoil :(
18:17 the20year2 you terrible human
18:17 the20year2 that could have fed a village
18:17 nubbins` i actually feel pretty bad about it
18:17 nubbins` i dislike wasting food
18:17 deadweasel beef abuse
18:18 deadweasel as if it could be abused anymore
18:18 nubbins` pork abuse
18:18 deadweasel oh man, the brain is replacing words again.
18:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` you don't have any cold left in canada ?
18:20 nubbins` i ground it and then left it in the fridge for like 5 days
18:20 mircea_popescu way i hear it works in these northern places, people just fit a box to their windowsill
18:20 nubbins` stupid :(
18:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` heh even 2 days is wrong.
18:20 nubbins` i know D:
18:21 nubbins` "i should freeze that" (3 days pass)
18:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12888 @ 0.00094035 = 12.1192 BTC [-] {2}
18:22 nubbins` http://www.guelphmercury.com/news-story/4438727-medical-marijuana-changes-must-meet-patient-needs/
18:22 ozbot Medical marijuana changes must meet patient needs
18:22 nubbins` so patients who possess marijuana from the old program have been given a reprieve, and don't have to throw their old weed in the garbage just yet
18:23 mircea_popescu they can threow it in the bong instead.
18:23 nubbins` +1
18:23 nubbins` or the vaporizer! combustion is for rubes
18:24 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/medical-marijuana-users-face-rising-price-dilemma-april-1-1.2592017
18:24 ozbot Medical marijuana users face rising price dilemma April 1 - British Columbia - CBC News
18:24 nubbins` ^ better source
18:24 benkay that's like pulling just the booze out of a fine wine, nubbins`,
18:25 nubbins` nahhh
18:25 nubbins` vaporizing releases much more detectible flavor compounds
18:25 nubbins` you light it on fire, all you taste is char
18:25 benkay same with a steak!
18:25 benkay for some value of same.
18:25 nubbins` same with coffee!
18:25 benkay a little burninating's fine.
18:27 mircea_popescu this is pretty interesting : https://twitter.com/relateablefuuu/status/443142501268869120/photo/1
18:27 mircea_popescu guy with 600 followers and already following 2001 people somehow gets 800 retweets
18:27 nubbins` "Alison Myrden of Burlington, Ont., says it costs just pennies for her designated grower to produce the more than 100 grams of marijuana she needs each day to relieve symptoms of multiple sclerosis and trigeminal neuralgia, a disorder of the nervous system that causes especially intense discomfort."
18:27 mircea_popescu yet i've never heard of the post.
18:27 nubbins` she ingests ONE HUNDRED GRAMS of marijuana.
18:28 nubbins` A DAY.
18:28 mircea_popescu could we be at the point where people actually buy fake/spam retweets to try and prop themselves into the conversation ?
18:28 nubbins` that's a gram every ten minutes
18:28 mircea_popescu nubbins` well if she eats it...
18:28 nubbins` even worse
18:28 nubbins` eating 100g in a day? you might as well induce a coma
18:29 nubbins` seriously, get a daily smoker to eat two grams and they'll spend the next ten hours seriously reconsidering their choice
18:29 nubbins` i can only hope she makes a tincture or something
18:29 mircea_popescu so she's selling it you're thinking ?
18:30 peterl maybe she means she needs a few pennies for 100 milligrams?
18:30 peterl units, how do they work?
18:30 jurov don't they measure hash in libraries of congress or sth?
18:31 mircea_popescu yeah i doubt very much it costs a quarter per pound to make weed.
18:31 mircea_popescu peterl prolly has it.
18:33 nubbins` no, i don't think she's selling, it'd be too brazen. she wouldn't agree to be interviewed
18:33 nubbins` no doubt she boils it up to make tea or some such
18:34 nubbins` i just can't comprehend what wasteful method of preparation causes this poor woman to have to go through over a quarter pound every day of her life
18:34 peterl maybe she just burns it as incense instead of smoking it?
18:34 nubbins` i honestly have no idea
18:35 nubbins` maybe her MS really is just that intense
18:35 nubbins` i've seen people with MS who seize so bad that they can't even communicate
18:35 jurov i think she bathes in it
18:35 nubbins` few puffs and they can function normally
18:35 nubbins` it's actually fucked
18:36 mircea_popescu maybe she feeds it to her cats and then rubs them ?
18:36 nubbins` heh.
18:36 nubbins` animal abuse!
18:36 jurov civet coffee comes to mind
18:36 jurov perish the thought
18:38 nubbins` civet coffee doesn't even taste particularly good
18:39 nubbins` i've seen pictures of freshly-shat civet coffee covered in intestinal worms
18:39 nubbins` protip: coffee isn't magic, you're not guaranteed a good cup just because it came from location X or was processed via method Y
18:40 nubbins` protip: you can taste the best coffees in the world whenever you want, for $5-15 per pound
18:40 nubbins` anyway
18:40 nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/BC/ID/2445586237/
18:40 ozbot Topless artist smashes ceramic breasts - CBC News Vancouver at 6 - CBC Player
18:40 Diablo-D3 ... is the name of my coldplay cover band
18:41 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/a331f08b68884919ccb845a73890b6df/tumblr_mlajx5ODav1s49lc7o1_1280.jpg
18:45 Mats_cd03 gross
18:46 Mats_cd03 i dont need bald dudes in the same frame as the boobies
18:52 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5991722#msg5991722
18:52 ozbot Threats to extort and blackmail BCT companies by the user 'pankkake'
18:52 nubbins` such negative language
18:52 nubbins` calling people spastics and retards ;(
18:52 pankkake "spastic" c'est bien une insulte de rosbif
18:53 Duffer1 the level of stupid in that thread is.. i can't even find an adequate adjective..
18:53 nubbins` mmhmm
18:53 nubbins` back-to-back freakout posts
18:53 nubbins` "here's some more shit i read on the internet, ctrl-v"
18:54 nubbins` guy is literally falling apart at the seams
18:54 nubbins` "And here is the body that will no doubt be in contact with you soon Pankkake"
18:54 pankkake sounds dirty
18:54 nubbins` yup
18:54 Duffer1 you woud be too if you held a large stake in actm
18:54 nubbins` plainly obvious at this point that the guy isn't going to be contacting anyone. ever.
18:54 nubbins` if he was going to, he'd do it, rather than flapping his gums trying to scare a confession out of you
18:55 pankkake well since he is talking about antitrust, yes - doesn't need to be a lawyer to see how offtopic it is
18:55 pankkake but yes, typical harassment
18:55 pankkake as long as he harasses only me… I'm ok with it
18:55 Duffer1 antitrust != defamation
18:56 pankkake and doesn't even concern people but businesses
18:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62356 = 3.1178 BTC [-] {5}
18:57 nubbins` imagine going to any sort of authority with the claim "an anonymous frenchman is saying bad things about a company i've invested in, and he says he will shut up if you pay him 30 euros"
18:57 nubbins` DEAR GOD SIR WE WILL ASSEMBLE A TASK FORCE IMMEDIATELY
18:58 nubbins` best part:
18:58 nubbins` <h1>You are ALL going to pay for your own stupidity and greed soon.</h1>
18:58 nubbins` what does that even mean D:
18:58 Duffer1 that was the only part of pankakke's discourse that i thought was trollish lol
18:58 mircea_popescu rosbif = roastbeef ?
18:59 pankkake mircea_popescu: yes. a nickname for UK people
18:59 Duffer1 "Price: 0.005 BTC per post, i.e. 1 BTC gives you 200 posts."
18:59 pankkake so much drama for something that netted me 0 BTC
18:59 mircea_popescu "And yes European Antitrust Laws protect companies before things happen like that here, it is not only a scandal it shows me how unprofessional and jealous you people works, there is a lot of incompetence in the room now but not on my site."
18:59 mircea_popescu not bad.
19:00 mircea_popescu "I copy the whole IRC chat of you guys since 26.4.2013 i am sure there are so many interesting things inside."
19:00 mircea_popescu imagine, reading the whole log.
19:01 Duffer1 the first time i've ever heard reading the log could be a bad thing
19:01 mircea_popescu well... it's the nature of the clueless to misrepresent. so he things it'd be a bad thing.
19:02 mircea_popescu irl, either he reads it and becomes a better person or fails to read ti and well...
19:02 mircea_popescu no damage.
19:02 Duffer1 no change
19:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.62081999 = 6.2082 BTC [-] {4}
19:02 mircea_popescu And here is the body that will no doubt be in contact with you soon Pankkake:
19:02 mircea_popescu http://www.autoritedelaconcurrence.fr/user/standard.php?id_rub=167&id_article=1078
19:02 mircea_popescu bwahahaha jesus god.
19:04 Duffer1 it's almost hard to watch the ActM victims lash out at those who would rescue them from drowning
19:04 Duffer1 it's tough facing the knowledge you are the cliche
19:04 pankkake and you can't get away from it, I stopped writing in their thread but they're still mad as hell
19:05 Duffer1 ken slaughter won't end it so they can start to grieve properly, he keeps stringing them along
19:06 mircea_popescu this is pretty epic tho, the neobee bag holders and the actm bag holders gathering together in one nuclear blast of sheer rage
19:06 mircea_popescu this officially beats the "bitbet followed its faq how dares it!!11" thing
19:06 pankkake many people in common… which is kinda strange, they still had coins, and still investemed them?!
19:08 mircea_popescu pankkake well considering how much effort they put into "outing" imaginary shills, socks etc,
19:08 mircea_popescu and all the nonsense about autorite de la concurrence
19:08 mircea_popescu i would imagine they're just butthurt at what they imagine is unfair competition. ie, they were shilling for a bunch of scams, the scams went nowhere.
19:08 pankkake and they ignored the stuff I found about ken's past get rich quick businesses :(
19:08 mircea_popescu you must have been doing the same thing, they figure, and also for some scams (they figure, cause nothing else exists in the world)
19:08 mircea_popescu consequently, you... um... you took their jerbs
19:09 mircea_popescu so no, they never invested anything. they had hopes of being paid by the scammors. which they're not getting.
19:09 Duffer1 i think stuart is a genuine bagholder, i think minerpart is one of the slaughter family, i think that coindesk guy is a scammer
19:10 mircea_popescu you may be right.
19:10 CheckDavid I don't understand scamming
19:10 CheckDavid Such a waste of talent
19:10 CheckDavid Or time
19:11 CheckDavid In case of talentless scammers
19:11 mircea_popescu CheckDavid people that have a problem with authority usually end up toiling on their own.
19:11 mircea_popescu there's some discussion of the scammer as a tragic figure in the logs but i'm kinda too lazy to hunt for it.
19:11 CheckDavid I see. As in a profile?
19:12 CheckDavid You were profiling the a average scammer?
19:12 mircea_popescu sort-of
19:12 mircea_popescu pankkake what i don't understand of all this is... why do you pm with these dorks ?
19:12 pankkake they PM me
19:12 mircea_popescu even so.
19:13 pankkake I finally stopped caring and they suck me back in :(
19:13 mircea_popescu nubbins` why is your forum avatar so angry ?
19:13 pankkake fuck that shit!
19:13 Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5992419#msg5992419
19:13 ozbot Threats to extort and blackmail BCT companies by the user 'pankkake'
19:13 Duffer1 lmao
19:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.063 = 0.189 BTC [-] {2}
19:14 mircea_popescu davout wait wait WAIT! they actually used a pic of gainsbourg as part of doxxing one of you two ?!
19:15 pankkake no
19:15 mircea_popescu aww pity.
19:15 mircea_popescu something like this'd kick ass.
19:16 pankkake they didn't even link the openbsd poster with you
19:16 mircea_popescu especially if it were someone obscenely famous, dali, warhol...
19:16 mircea_popescu we could have a super secret super club, like the mile high club, except more nerdy. "people who have been made famous by misdoxxing"
19:16 CryptX !ticker h peta
19:16 assbot [HAVELOCK:PETA] 1D: 0.06050000 / 0.06346524 / 0.06994775 (254 shares, 16.12017208 BTC), 7D: 0.05950000 / 0.06851882 / 0.07499085 (2012 shares, 137.85986461 BTC), 30D: 0.05950000 / 0.07277824 / 0.11379998 (7599 shares, 553.04185941 BTC)
19:18 mircea_popescu turbo_ac100 by the way, this reminds me, what happened wit the firefox bitbet plugin ?
19:19 mircea_popescu 21:00:33 pankkake: just hope they don't crawl http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/
19:19 mircea_popescu not only crawled man full downloaded by me and given to police next days!
19:19 benkay openbsd poster?
19:20 mircea_popescu o look. les flics gotta read 98794387593725 mp lines now.
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62000001 BTC [-]
19:21 benkay pankkake: poster?
19:22 mwashaka whats looking better, AM or PETA?
19:22 pankkake in a posted pic… maybe it was removed (hopefully)
19:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00644994 = 0.3612 BTC [+] {4}
19:23 pankkake mircea_popescu: and the quote is out of context :( it was about domain bots
19:23 mircea_popescu pankkake i expected no less.
19:23 mircea_popescu mwashaka remind me, what's peta do ?
19:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00646347 = 0.2973 BTC [+] {5}
19:23 mwashaka mining op
19:24 mwashaka run by CryptX
19:24 mwashaka Peta-Mine
19:24 mircea_popescu ;;rated cryptx
19:24 Duffer1 is there !bash for bitcointalk?
19:24 nubbins` mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/retained-cto-first-public-commission-other-statements/#comment-93626
19:24 mircea_popescu now i broke gribble ;/
19:25 nubbins` it's because nobody's ponying up their fuckin taxes
19:25 mircea_popescu lawl
19:25 nubbins` granted, the game ended up being called eulora, so i guess it's moot anyway
19:27 nubbins` man, that stuart guy is really unpleasant
19:27 mircea_popescu mwashaka so they say they bought some bitfury chips and sorta-kinda pay out about 50% of whatever "investors" invest
19:27 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280570.msg3060507#msg3060507 that post controls.
19:27 ozbot [BTC-TC] CryptX introduces the PETA-MINE - 18,000 CHIPS IN SEPTEMBER/UPDATE
19:28 mircea_popescu am is dubious at this point, but at least it has an actual history.
19:28 mwashaka ahhh that was the old mine
19:28 mwashaka it has been redone since
19:28 mwashaka hashing at 150TH/s now
19:28 mwashaka have orders for a further 600 TH/s
19:28 mwashaka it looks good
19:28 mwashaka b
19:29 mircea_popescu kinda besides the point. a history of not respecting contracts isn't washed away by adding more numbers.
19:29 mwashaka but im not really in with AsicMiner, but it seems good what they are doing
19:29 mwashaka ahh
19:29 mwashaka are you saying CryptX has a history of not delivering?
19:30 nubbins` ah, i forgot about those guys
19:30 mircea_popescu mwashaka it'
19:30 mircea_popescu s just another one instance of the scammy forum asset.
19:30 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=280570.msg3063649#msg3063649
19:30 ozbot [BTC-TC] CryptX introduces the PETA-MINE - 18,000 CHIPS IN SEPTEMBER/UPDATE
19:30 mircea_popescu for as long as btc inflows stay net positive it'll be ok im sure.
19:30 nubbins` heh
19:31 mircea_popescu nubbins` shocking how that 50% thing works innit.
19:31 nubbins` like sticking your peepee in a light socket
19:32 mwashaka thanks both, this is a great insight
19:32 mwashaka think i will lean towards AsicMiner until they are more transparent, as that is my current issue with them
19:32 nubbins` !t h peta
19:32 assbot [HAVELOCK:PETA] 1D: 0.06050000 / 0.06346524 / 0.06994775 (254 shares, 16.12017208 BTC), 7D: 0.05950000 / 0.06851882 / 0.07499085 (2012 shares, 137.85986461 BTC), 30D: 0.05950000 / 0.07274519 / 0.11379998 (7592 shares, 552.28145936 BTC)
19:32 mircea_popescu now, as far as asicminer goes, it's been a great asset so far, however, it's not without its problems
19:32 mircea_popescu so do your reading etc.
19:33 mwashaka i will do, thank you both, its much appreciated
19:33 mwashaka mircea, are you MPOE-PR on BTT?
19:34 mircea_popescu no, mpoe-pr is my pr chick
19:34 mircea_popescu it says so right in her sig you know ?
19:34 mwashaka nope, just somthing hit me, thought for a split second you were the same person
19:34 mwashaka shes a bitch, but she knows her shit :)
19:34 mircea_popescu kinda the hiring criteria.
19:34 mwashaka i like
19:35 mircea_popescu anyway. never trust a self-moderated thread.
19:35 nubbins` ^
19:35 nubbins` never trust a computer
19:36 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdkl7mkleuE
19:36 ozbot MONSTERBATOR ~ Never Trust a Computer - YouTube
19:44 turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: forgot about the plugin.
19:44 turbo_ac100 It should look like this: http://pastebin.com/73urimLq
19:45 mircea_popescu o its like a bookmarklet or w/e they're called ?
19:45 mircea_popescu pretty cool
19:45 turbo_ac100 see here http://mycroftproject.com/submitos.html
19:45 pankkake OpenSearch?
19:45 turbo_ac100 yes
19:45 mircea_popescu you gonna dump your refling into the results ?
19:46 turbo_ac100 not yet. good idea though
19:53 turbo_ac100 kakobrekla: you are developing bibet? If you want to go wild add suggestions to the search.
19:54 turbo_ac100 reason: "This is currently only supported by a few of the largest websites. An example of a working value is: http://suggestqueries.google.com/complete/search?output=firefox&amp;client=firefox&amp;hl=en&amp;q={searchTerms}"
19:55 mircea_popescu o that's interesting
19:56 mircea_popescu so it needs a suggestqueries subdomain and what, json output ? or ?
19:56 turbo_ac100 doesn't say.
19:58 turbo_ac100 response body is json http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/Extensions/Suggestions/1.0
20:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5262 @ 0.00093908 = 4.9414 BTC [-]
20:00 kakobrekla http://shreyaschand.com/blog/2013/01/03/google-autocomplete-api/
20:00 ozbot Google Autocomplete "API" | Shreyas Chand
20:00 kakobrekla this is not aware of context
20:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00094064 = 20.0356 BTC [+] {2}
20:08 mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21qvlj/havelock_investments_halts_neo_bee_fund_trading/cgfrvfz
20:08 mircea_popescu funny how nobody has no connections to anything ever.
20:09 mircea_popescu all this forum shit starts with a lot of support that on examination consists of wtf.
20:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00094301 = 9.2415 BTC [+]
20:14 nubbins` ah, to be a fly on the wall
20:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8698 @ 0.00093905 = 8.1679 BTC [-]
20:17 jurov oooh our next generation emerging scamchange owner dotcoin aka markus weiler got into some mudfights?
20:18 nubbins` yeah, apparently i've been advised to figure out who the guy's lawyer is and present myself to him
20:18 jurov you knew he added securities to bitcoinbourse?
20:18 jurov another "next mpex"
20:22 jurov it's behind registration, so for sake of record i'll list what he trades there:
20:22 jurov Symbol: BBS Bitcoin Bourse System Shares
20:22 jurov Investor Info: https://bitcoinbourse.eu/investor
20:22 jurov Symbol: TBN The Bitcoin News Shares
20:22 jurov Investor Info: http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/investor-relations/
20:23 jurov Symbol: BCS BitcoinCard® Shares
20:23 jurov Investor Info: http://bitcointocard.com/BCS_IPO.pdf
20:23 jurov Symbol: ___ Announcement 2 April 2014
20:23 jurov Investor Info: http://#
20:25 jurov that's all so far. No public trading data advertised or even graphs shown.
20:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00093905 = 17.3724 BTC [-]
20:29 mircea_popescu bitcoin news shares ?
20:29 mircea_popescu how does bitcoin news generate revenue
20:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25238 @ 0.00094152 = 23.7621 BTC [+]
20:30 mircea_popescu ;;google site:uspto.gov BitcoinCard
20:30 gribble No matches found.
20:30 mircea_popescu i guess nobody told 'em ® is not merely a good looking special glyph
20:31 pankkake time to call the AntiTrust Brigade
20:32 pankkake how does bitcoin news generate revenue => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkA9L2J2gY
20:33 mircea_popescu yeah, i think bitbet made a whole btc out of advertising so far
20:33 mircea_popescu over about a year.
20:34 pankkake also bitcoiners === likely to have adblock
20:34 pankkake or lynx
20:35 nubbins` or lawyers on speed dial
20:35 nubbins` wait...
20:35 mircea_popescu ha ha
20:36 mircea_popescu i am behind 7 layers
20:36 jurov judging from http://bitcoinsarl.fr/ , the ___ is gonna be cryptotu.be IPO
20:36 mircea_popescu wait, the entire drama with pankkake and davout in the forums was simply some french dork's idea of how to launch yet another wannabe-mpex thing ?
20:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00619799 = 0.2045 BTC [-] {5}
20:37 pankkake german incorporated in france
20:37 jurov mircea yes
20:37 mircea_popescu pretty sad.
20:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 132 @ 0.00616322 = 0.8135 BTC [-] {7}
20:38 jurov it's actually meta-wannabe thing, he seems very productive
20:38 kakobrekla well as it turns out to be i havent managed to figure out who suggested to put up the wiki
20:38 kakobrekla but here you go http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/
20:38 mircea_popescu where's that nubbins` quote ? "if their business was doing something pointless they'd be doing it very well"
20:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 193 @ 0.0060783 = 1.1731 BTC [-] {4}
20:39 * nubbins` gestures towards log
20:39 kakobrekla please pm me to set up an account, must have WOT
20:39 nubbins` ctrl-f, magazine
20:39 mircea_popescu i cant find an "edit" button
20:39 mircea_popescu a, i was gonna vandalize it ;/
20:40 nubbins` not sure what this wiki is for
20:40 mircea_popescu me either.
20:40 kakobrekla http://piratepad.net/or1RSxpueo
20:40 ozbot PiratePad: or1RSxpueo
20:40 kakobrekla this goes there
20:40 kakobrekla +-
20:40 mircea_popescu maybe to give more avenues of haxxorage on b-a.com ?
20:41 kakobrekla its all contained
20:41 mircea_popescu kakobrekla hehe ok. but what's the idea, give me like an usecase for the wiki
20:42 kakobrekla for when the newbies come and ask "can you give me reading material and not the log"
20:42 nubbins` ah
20:42 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5993394#msg5993394 << see, now that's a paid troll on point and good at what he does. rapid, efficient, a wonder to behold. not like the rest of you bums
20:42 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
20:42 mircea_popescu what am i even paying you for!
20:42 mircea_popescu kakobrekla a so it's not a bitbet thing
20:42 mircea_popescu for some reason i was thinking that
20:43 kakobrekla O_o
20:43 pankkake maybe a collective Trilema TL;DR
20:43 nubbins` you're paying me?! :0
20:43 mircea_popescu yeah. TCTTLDR
20:43 mircea_popescu The Collective Trilema Too Long Didn't Romprehend
20:45 mircea_popescu course... it'd kinda put the various btcnews sites out of business, so i understand now what this is all about. you're all trying to sabotage bitcoinsarl, jarl and etc.
20:46 mircea_popescu anyway, as encouragement, i'll gift either 100k ATC or 0.1 BTC for the best article there.
20:46 mircea_popescu winner's choice.
20:46 jurov hi dotcoin
20:46 dotcoin hi jurov
20:46 mircea_popescu jurov you two know each other ?
20:46 dotcoin why talking so bad about me
20:47 jurov i§m his happy shareholder
20:47 dotcoin yes we know i think
20:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72250 @ 0.00094469 = 68.2539 BTC [+] {5}
20:47 jurov since before bitcoinbourse launch
20:47 dotcoin yes happy shareholders not accuse the company of scam
20:47 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust dotcoin
20:47 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user dotcoin: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=dotcoin | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dotcoin | Rated since: never
20:48 mircea_popescu you seem to be having a bit of a problem there dotcoin.
20:48 dotcoin do you think so
20:48 dotcoin i think there are some other guys have much more problems than me
20:49 dotcoin so tell me guys where is the problem
20:49 nubbins` hey
20:49 nubbins` dotcoin! my friend!
20:49 nubbins` your lawyer got in touch with me
20:49 nubbins` i gave him all the info i had about pankkake
20:50 mircea_popescu dotcoin inasmuch as you're trying to start some sort of exchange with no experience and no web of trust presence...
20:50 dotcoin i am not your friend nubbins nor i want your friend
20:50 dotcoin you think i have no experience? as you all guys runs many exchanges here i see
20:51 dotcoin or any other usefull stuff
20:51 mircea_popescu yes, we run teh bitcoin.
20:51 dotcoin you run the bitcoin
20:51 mircea_popescu how useful it is however... it's kinda debatable.
20:51 dotcoin for one is more and for the other less
20:51 nubbins` dotcoin we are not friends?
20:52 dotcoin but classifieds this me or my company as a scammer
20:52 nubbins` your lawyer was nice. you are not as nice as your lawyer.
20:52 mircea_popescu he has a lawyer ?!
20:52 dotcoin nubbins stop talk to me please you are simple little trol not talking with you
20:53 nubbins` mircea_popescu, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg5990995#msg5990995
20:53 mircea_popescu dotcoin ok but you have a lawyer /
20:53 nubbins` says there he has a lawyer
20:53 dotcoin i have a lawyer you too
20:53 mircea_popescu what's his name ?
20:54 dotcoin you can read when you in problems with me on the letter he will send you
20:54 Duffer1 hi dotcoin
20:54 nubbins` how in the world is your lawyer going to send a letter to me :(
20:54 dotcoin but what is now the problems here is there any serious discussion
20:54 dotcoin or what is here on
20:54 dotcoin why you troll companies in forums
20:54 nubbins` dotcoin, what is your native language? (just curious)
20:54 jurov dotcoin, you refused to say anything about what was doen with bitcoins from bourse IPO
20:54 mircea_popescu ... so do you have a lawyer or don't you.
20:55 dotcoin pankkake
20:55 bounce "pankkake" is a language now?
20:55 jurov that's even less than several known scammers
20:55 jurov so for me, your case is clear
20:55 nubbins` pankkake is the language of love
20:55 nubbins` aka body language
20:55 dotcoin so what is the case jurov
20:56 kakobrekla the bourse thingy was german iirc
20:56 dotcoin the case is you are friend of martin and he is not happy to get out of bourse right?
20:56 dotcoin what he told you this man
20:56 jurov martin is irrelevant here
20:56 jurov you raised hunders of BTC
20:56 jurov and they are not heard of since
20:57 dotcoin hundrets
20:57 jurov *hundreds
20:57 mircea_popescu nubbins` linguistix specialist says probably dutch or german.
20:57 nubbins` ah
20:57 dotcoin you even know how much we raised
20:57 nubbins` don't panic, i'm only germanic
20:57 kanzure i think i killed gribble :(
20:57 BingoBoingo dotcoin: Why do you have a lawyer?
20:58 nubbins` i don't think he has a lawyer
20:58 dotcoin and if so what is the problem about a IPO is to raise money or not
20:58 jurov wont gonna look it up, i know i am not getting answer anyway
20:58 dotcoin so jurov tell me please what is your problem now
20:58 jurov you are eliza
20:58 jurov ?
20:58 jurov tell me about your parents?
20:58 dotcoin eliza?
20:58 jurov etc?
20:59 dotcoin are you drunk
20:59 mircea_popescu kanzure what did you do ?
20:59 jurov i explained my problem clearly
20:59 jurov last time: 1. you raised bitcoins
20:59 dotcoin not real you tell me i rais hundrets of bitcoins and ?
20:59 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lawyers are like girlfriends, except better. everyone should have a few.
21:00 jurov 2. built crappy website but never disclosed how many of them were used in the process
21:00 mircea_popescu https://github.com/dotcoin?tab=activity < da hell is this thing anyway ?
21:00 jurov 3. want moar
21:00 dotcoin and you want to know where they are gone?
21:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1995 @ 0.00094702 = 1.8893 BTC [+]
21:00 Juelcf the new bourse website looks good and works good
21:00 dotcoin what do you think where they are gone?
21:00 mircea_popescu dotcoin how about this : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361852.0
21:00 Duffer1 MP i'm thinking french
21:01 dotcoin do you think you create site like we have and without paying anything
21:01 mircea_popescu apparently you issued stock, then did a forced buyback at a loss.
21:01 kakobrekla spent them for dotcoin mansion
21:01 dotcoin do you het it for free anywhere in the world?
21:01 jurov i have to guess? blow and hookers?
21:01 Juelcf You guys talk so much shit its amazing
21:01 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
21:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2304 @ 0.00012063 = 0.2779 BTC [-] {8}
21:01 nubbins` dotcoin: WOW, you did a forced buyback at a loss?
21:01 dotcoin whaamazing company yes
21:01 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
21:01 dotcoin show me a better one
21:02 nubbins` Juelcf: hi
21:02 mircea_popescu dotcoin you have this strange comparison to the mean mentality.
21:02 mircea_popescu doesn't really matter what you perceive the average to be. the idea is to stand out at the top not to muddle around the middle.
21:04 dotcoin a so jurov i want to tell you what ever your friend martin lies to you is not the truth, and to accuse me for scam in this case in forums is not the best way to hear the other site of this story between martin and me, you are shareholder you try now to accuse me of scam so what i have think about that? do you think is a productive way for your shares? more than i not scam any
21:04 nubbins`_ who's martin?
21:04 jurov i want numbers, not story
21:05 dotcoin i am a real person i not hide behind aliases and be in a forum a super hero member
21:05 mircea_popescu so what is your name ?
21:05 nubbins`_ i think his real name is Dot Coin
21:05 dotcoin all of you guys can meet me if you wan and we can discuss
21:05 mircea_popescu isn't that patented by some fatass in new zealand ?
21:05 mircea_popescu dotcoin yes, we can. so what's your name ?
21:06 nubbins`_ not exactly but you can still be prosecuted under the Analogue Act
21:06 jurov nubbins`_: martin is our mutual acquaintance that was supposed to be cofounder of bitcoin bourse and helped me to decide to invest there
21:06 BingoBoingo ;;ident dotcoin
21:06 jurov later martin quit
21:06 nubbins`_ ah
21:06 dotcoin cofounder of bitcoin bourse hahaha
21:06 nubbins`_ sort of like thickasthieves and neobee?
21:06 gribble Nick 'dotcoin', with hostmask 'dotcoin!5d10ab35@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.16.171.53', is not identified.
21:06 * nubbins`_ cackles loudly
21:06 dotcoin martin quit hahaha
21:06 mircea_popescu jurov would this be foresnick or some other guy ?
21:06 jurov yes forensick
21:06 dotcoin sorry man you are full wrong informed
21:06 Duffer1 Markus Weiler?
21:07 dotcoin yes is the forensick guy
21:07 dotcoin yes Markus Weiler
21:07 mike_c_s this cost money? https://bitcoinbourse.eu/
21:07 dotcoin and you Duffer 1?
21:07 jurov and who are you then?
21:07 mircea_popescu Duffer1 well we don't know. guy has a lawyer he can't name and doesn't hide behind nicks but can't introduce himself.
21:07 mircea_popescu a bit of a conundrum so far.
21:07 jurov forensick is martin belobrat and YOU are markus weiler
21:07 nubbins`_ mike_c that website looks like it cost about $5 to make
21:07 mircea_popescu mike_c not everyone has python developers at their beak and call.
21:07 mike_c apparently
21:07 nubbins`_ ah
21:07 nubbins`_ Markus Weiler!
21:08 dotcoin yes ok now all people can call me Markus Weiler if you are more happy with that
21:08 dotcoin Mr for some of you huys
21:08 nubbins`_ heh
21:08 dotcoin specialy for the trolls without name
21:08 kakobrekla ;;google Markus Weiler
21:08 mircea_popescu ok, so you're markus weiler and you try to run bitcoinbourse.
21:08 peterl "i am a real person i not hide behind aliases and be in a forum a super hero member" says a guy named "dotcoin"?
21:08 kakobrekla no gribble :\
21:08 gribble Prof. Dr. Markus Weiler — Professur für Hydrologie: <https://www.hydro.uni-freiburg.de/staff/weiler>; Markus Weiler - Google Scholar Citations: <http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=A-2xovMAAAAJ&hl=en>; mweiler (Markus Weiler) on deviantART: <http://mweiler.deviantart.com/>
21:08 jurov ^ typical communication style. no help there
21:08 jurov goodnight
21:08 kakobrekla a there you are
21:08 kakobrekla dr?
21:08 kakobrekla nah
21:08 dotcoin so what now jurov
21:09 kakobrekla must be wrong guy
21:09 nubbins`_ ^
21:09 Duffer1 dotcoin I was just reading https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361852.msg4729286#msg4729286 wasn't sure if that was your name or not. Call me Matt :)
21:09 nubbins`_ Call me on my birthday
21:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00094769 = 4.7858 BTC [+]
21:09 mircea_popescu dotcoin so now we get to the part where you issued a stock on cryptostocks and then did a forced buyback for a lower price.
21:09 nubbins`_ oh my god, Markus Weiler did a forced buyback of stock?
21:10 dotcoin make a force back i think was for 1 share so can be yes
21:10 nubbins`_ at a lower price?!
21:10 mircea_popescu dotcoin it's in the link above. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2014#594053
21:11 Duffer1 who was running the pass through?
21:11 mircea_popescu please let it be usagi ?
21:11 dotcoin if this one user have a loss will pay him if contact me, ask now why make a force back buy, tell you martin the friend of jurov told me we must sell shares there, as we not have need, this i stop trading on cryptostocks that was simple and not any to to i rip of a guy of 0.0005 btc
21:11 mircea_popescu can you write that out again but in your native language ?
21:11 nubbins`_ en francais svp!
21:12 mircea_popescu it made no sense in english ; i can probably read it in whatever it is you speak.
21:12 dotcoin i am not francais man i am german and i am sure nobody of you guys speak german
21:12 nubbins`_ in deutsche bitte!
21:12 dotcoin Fuer dich gerne in deutsch
21:13 dotcoin stell deine frage in deutsch
21:13 mircea_popescu ja, Deutsch wird hier gesprochen
21:13 bounce eutelsat netblock. talk about being out in the boonies.
21:13 dotcoin ja na dann mal los
21:13 nubbins`_ danke, ihr englisch ist schwer zu verstehen ;(
21:13 dotcoin genau wie ihr deutsch
21:13 benkay http://i.imgur.com/nAgQ7.jpg
21:14 jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347347.0 here you said you are markus weiler
21:14 ozbot Bitcoin SARL Infoletter 26/11/13
21:14 mircea_popescu benkay fuck, she beats my redheads
21:14 dotcoin yes jurov still i am
21:14 nubbins`_ sea salt & black pepper on popcorn? sigh
21:15 Duffer1 i'd eat that
21:15 mircea_popescu nubbins`_ and lymph
21:15 Duffer1 Ich würde das essen
21:15 benkay i'll let you know when i find the moose sausage popcorn, nubbins`
21:17 benkay let's keep this one in reserve for when the SEC gets you, mircea_popescu http://destroyed-and-abandoned.tumblr.com/image/81101546098
21:18 mircea_popescu so dramatique
21:18 Duffer1 has there been any followup to that?
21:18 dotcoin ok jurov i guess if you have any questions about anything, you have my email and i am sure you aware of daily newsletters
21:18 kakobrekla lel
21:19 kakobrekla you didnt give any answers dotcoin
21:19 kakobrekla now im curioal.
21:19 dotcoin i give not answers about what kakobrekla
21:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00602001 = 0.6742 BTC [-] {2}
21:19 Juelcf i would like to know also what the fuck is going on here
21:20 dotcoin i answer and some people want talk with me german so what now
21:20 kakobrekla you were asked to type what you typed in german
21:20 kakobrekla so do it
21:20 Duffer1 hi Juelcf
21:20 dotcoin google translate i not want wast more time
21:20 Juelcf Hi
21:21 kakobrekla like talking to a can of worms.
21:21 dotcoin serious people here can join our newsletter than they will informed http://thebictoinnews.co.uk and people with problems or questions can contact me by email contact@bitcoinsarl.fr
21:21 Duffer1 are you not entertained
21:22 Duffer1 .fr?
21:22 Duffer1 nm
21:24 dotcoin n8
21:24 kakobrekla anyway i tried google trasnlate eng -> eng and it doesnt fix your garbage
21:24 kakobrekla also brb
21:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00094708 = 6.2034 BTC [-]
21:27 nubbins`_ mircea_popescu: sea salt, black pepper, and lymph on popcorn?!
21:27 Juelcf whats the deal with dotcoin? why was everyone trolling?
21:28 mircea_popescu Juelcf who exactly was trolling ? and who exactly are you ?
21:28 benkay not really trolling. dotcoin's being evasive and the channel kinda got pissed.
21:28 Duffer1 the engrish doesn't help either
21:28 Juelcf mircea_popescu, just asking
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24562 @ 0.00094807 = 23.2865 BTC [+] {2}
21:28 Duffer1 no offense
21:29 nubbins`_ obv a machine translation job
21:30 Duffer1 juelcf it started with pankkake calling foul on a couple of dubious offerings by dotcoin
21:30 Duffer1 then came to a head today as dotcoin threatened to sue pankkake
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.05683845 = 0.7389 BTC [-] {4}
21:31 bounce well, maybe we need a virtual courts of teh intarwebz, where you can sue WoT usernames and such.
21:31 bounce s/ a //
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05699999 = 0.228 BTC [+] {3}
21:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0459 = 0.3672 BTC [-]
21:33 peterl didnt they have a Rota for that sort of thing?
21:33 nubbins`_ heh
21:33 BingoBoingo I suppose a good rule of thumb for any court would be that parties wanting redress from Pankkake are prolly in the wrong
21:33 nubbins`_ peterl it got too real too quick
21:33 peterl what is the use of such a thing if it is not real?
21:33 nubbins`_ no use
21:35 nubbins`_ fun fact, ROTA was an acronym for Rand of the Ayn
21:36 bounce no idea what that is and it already smells like WTMI
21:36 nubbins`_ ;;ud wtmi
21:36 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wtmi | wtmi. Way to much information. Often used by women(and somethimes men) to pronounce that something is indeed gross or sickening and they dont want to ...
21:36 ozbot Urban Dictionary: wtmi
21:37 BingoBoingo I thought ROTA was an acronym for Round, Oiled, Tense, Asses
21:37 nubbins`_ heh.
21:37 nubbins`_ too many commas, otherwise ok
21:39 cazalla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5993297#msg5993297
21:39 nubbins` 1-855-one-bitcoin
21:39 nubbins` or, if you're in a rush, 1-855-one-bitc
21:39 nubbins` lelelel
21:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21844 @ 0.00094708 = 20.688 BTC [-]
21:42 cazalla "Lol, wrapped some cardboard boxes in inkjet-printed labels, and took a pic of one HF board? Awesome." top kek
21:42 nubbins` "let's use a cell phone camera for the photos for our big announcement"
21:43 mircea_popescu it's a slow drama day, so let's lol at people. http://trilema.com/2014/a-sad-story-illustrated/
21:44 nubbins` fuck-the-cops.biz!
21:44 mircea_popescu bounce we had something like that, as peterl points out. it failed miserably. http://trilema.com/rota-post-mortem
21:45 mircea_popescu and it wasn't no acronim
21:45 asciilifeform in other news, my site (should anyone give a damn) is back.
21:45 mircea_popescu ;;google tribunal apostolicum rotae romanae
21:45 gribble Roman Rota - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Rota>; Rota Background - CanonLaw.info: <http://www.canonlaw.info/personal_rotademo.htm>; Addresses of courts - Arcibiskupství pražské: <http://www.apha.cz/en/addresses-of-courts-text>
21:46 mircea_popescu nubbins` ghetto huh.
21:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4702 @ 0.00094823 = 4.4586 BTC [+]
21:47 nubbins` who knows, maybe they couldn't afford a $99 samsung point-and-shoot because they spent every last dime on legitimate businessy things
21:47 peterl Some cell phones these days have very nice cameras
21:47 mircea_popescu http/hashfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Yoli-Evo-board_FINAL-white-WEB-e1392926017925.png
21:48 mircea_popescu this shit looks quite aesthetically pleasing
21:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cut&paste in cad proggy will do that. symmetric.
21:49 mircea_popescu also the central thing.
21:49 asciilifeform that multi-die beast looks like a thermal nightmare though
21:49 mircea_popescu it does yeah
21:49 asciilifeform why cram them in one?
21:50 mircea_popescu imo it's horrid design, you'd have wanted the 4 separated towards corners or something
21:50 asciilifeform is the author here?
21:50 mircea_popescu but forget the sanity. it pleaseth my eye
21:50 asciilifeform ok i think i get it!
21:50 asciilifeform look at the 'octopus'
21:50 asciilifeform it's designed to fit an intel heat sink.
21:50 asciilifeform hence the quad die.
21:50 mircea_popescu like a girl on 7 inchers. you know she's in pain and likely can't run... but damn that ass.
21:50 asciilifeform it wants to have the same mechanicals as a 'xeon'
21:50 mircea_popescu oh
21:51 mircea_popescu who knows, that may work cheaper
21:51 asciilifeform cheaper than having your own heat sinks cast, yes
21:51 asciilifeform esp. if you like hydraulic strange
21:52 asciilifeform the 6-pin molexes are probably intel's 'p4' too.
21:54 kakobrekla these are apparently water cooled as well
21:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11930 @ 0.00094906 = 11.3223 BTC [+] {2}
21:57 pankkake I can take better pics of my Data Center: https://unsee.cc/beziru/
21:59 asciilifeform whatever happened to those folks who sold a $3k (usd) pc chassis-cum-heatsink of solid copper, weighing as much as a man ?
21:59 asciilifeform 'zalman' i think it was.
22:00 pankkake I'm not sure they actually sold it
22:00 nubbins` seems to me like if you remove the per-case judge payment and stick to the yearly sum, the rota would involve a whole lot less QQing
22:01 asciilifeform shame. i have this ancient crackpot dream of being rid of pc fans.
22:02 mircea_popescu nubbins` wouldn't have had any impact in the matter that sunk it
22:02 pankkake there are some passive heatsinks though
22:02 pankkake huge aluminum stuff - but they tell you to have case fans though
22:02 asciilifeform pankkake: show a 100% passive cooled machine that isn't a toy
22:02 nubbins` mircea_popescu well pretty hard to buy off judges if the judges don't get paid any extra for taking the case
22:02 pankkake I guess you can do it if you underclock
22:02 mircea_popescu nubbins` ...
22:03 nubbins` unless i'm missing something
22:03 pankkake I solved the fan issue by putting the machines in another room than the one I'm in
22:04 asciilifeform pankkake: i'm about to rent a whole building instead of flat, partly so i can do just this
22:04 mircea_popescu well you are. inasmuch the defendant passively receives X btc and is then required to return X+e, the entire thing is an extraction engine
22:04 pankkake though the real annoyance always was the noise of hard drives
22:04 asciilifeform but fans still suck in dirt, fail without warning, etc
22:04 pankkake yeah, my GPU fan died, and those aren't easy to replace :(
22:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the correct solution to the fan problem is to use fanned tubes
22:04 nubbins` what's "e", effort?
22:04 pankkake back to the slower passive gpu, which at least still works
22:05 mircea_popescu all fans in a tube can't fail at the same time
22:05 mircea_popescu nubbins` epsilon
22:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: apple is selling, i think, a machine of just this shape. but, as you can probably guess, i'd rather not buy it.
22:05 pankkake my case has filters, the case wasn't that dusty after months of operation
22:06 nubbins` mircea_popescu: in the post mortem example, all i see is: mpex receives 100btc, mpex returns 100btc, mpex pays judges 3btc each
22:06 asciilifeform http://bensbargains.net/thecheckout/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/mac-pro-cigar.jpg
22:06 mircea_popescu i wonder why there doesn't exist some sort of magnetic heat extractor device!
22:07 mircea_popescu nubbins` so what you mean is, make the cases costless ?
22:07 mircea_popescu what prevents someone from suing everyone in sight if there's no cost to it ?
22:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: magneto-hydrodynamic coolant pump ? one sees them in patents often, but for some reason never in pc.
22:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i know.
22:07 mircea_popescu yet pc would seem one of the best applications
22:07 nubbins` no cost to it? if you lose, it's a 10btc cost
22:08 mircea_popescu ...
22:08 dexX7 rota 2?
22:08 mircea_popescu you gotta make up your mind nubbins`
22:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ordinary 'heat pipe' works great, so long as you have a massive sink on the other side. heat pipe can be thought of as a refrigerator without a compressor.
22:09 nubbins` i left out fees for brevity in my example
22:09 nubbins` consider it suitably modified.
22:09 mircea_popescu so then mpex has to pay the fees if it loses ?
22:09 mircea_popescu and it can lose without doing anything ?
22:10 nubbins` it couldn't lose if it declined to participate
22:10 nubbins` how else would you deal with a case you deemed frivolous?
22:11 nubbins` throw 10btc at it and hope ya get it back?!
22:11 Duffer1 what's the incentive to defend yourself ever?
22:11 nubbins` THERE ISN'T ONE
22:12 mircea_popescu then problem solved ?
22:12 Duffer1 hehe
22:12 nubbins` well, if you look at it that way, the rota was a solution in search of a problem
22:13 mircea_popescu it may be said.
22:13 nubbins` suppose i call chetty a poopyhead and it turns out this damaged her reputation so badly that she lost a 100btc contract. she decides to sue me via rota, i decline.
22:13 mircea_popescu what can i tell you, i'm not mafalda. i figure things out as i go
22:13 nubbins` now what? nothing
22:13 mircea_popescu nubbins` now you're a poopyhead
22:13 nubbins` joke's on you, that doesn't damage my reputation
22:14 mircea_popescu well not like it has to.
22:14 mircea_popescu whats this, taloncoin ?
22:14 nubbins` i can't keep up with them, you tell me :D
22:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8916 @ 0.0009492 = 8.4631 BTC [+]
22:14 nubbins` anyway.
22:14 mircea_popescu im very surprised nobody made bitround yet
22:14 nubbins` maybe the defendant doesn't have to pay a fee because we're not paying the judges per-case anymore
22:15 mircea_popescu everyone with their head in a box, X-coin Y-coin blergh
22:15 nubbins` bitbar
22:15 mircea_popescu not paying the judges per case has a host of problems
22:15 nubbins` toss a couple at me
22:15 mircea_popescu such as judges no longer actually wish to judge. it becomes morel ike jury duty
22:15 nubbins` workload would be the obvious one
22:16 nubbins` but hey, USA has a thousand magistrate judges for a reason
22:16 nubbins` say a judge has to take 30 cases a year or w/e for his 30btc
22:17 nubbins` he knows the workload involved when he signs up. once all judges are booked up, you have a backlog.
22:18 joecool i had a case some years back that was delayed nearly 2 years because the judge assigned was waiting for his retirement request to finalize
22:18 nubbins` exactly so
22:19 MisterE mornin
22:19 nubbins` anyway, you're arguing that salary doesn't work because pay-by-the-hour makes it seem like less of a chore
22:23 mircea_popescu nubbins` and how do you pay the 30 btc ?
22:24 mircea_popescu and im merely arguing that since every top job out there pays a salary + bonuses, that model is unavoidable.
22:24 nubbins` well, how were you planning to pay the 30btc?
22:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16802 @ 0.0009498 = 15.9585 BTC [+] {2}
22:24 nubbins` unavoidable pff, bitcoin is here to replace &c &c.
22:25 nubbins` receiving btc IS a bonus.
22:25 mircea_popescu iffy.
22:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3380 @ 0.00095028 = 3.2119 BTC [+]
22:26 nubbins` anyway, unless that 30btc was supposed to come from the leftover 1btc of the losing party's money (30 cases per judge per year!), i can only imagine that you were privately funding the judges' salaries
22:26 mircea_popescu and if you recall, the 10 btc - 3x3 = 1 leftover.
22:26 mircea_popescu 30 cases a year pay for the 30.
22:26 mircea_popescu i was privately underwriting the risk that judges may not get 30 cases/year
22:26 mircea_popescu that fat tail ended up costing a pretty penny, but hey.
22:28 nubbins` so the plaintiff's 10btc fee is refundable to 9btc if he wins.
22:28 nubbins` all the more reason to avoid frivolous claims, no?
22:28 nubbins` if you buy a can of coke here, you pay eight cents recycling deposit. you bring the empty can back, you get five cents.
22:31 nubbins` i can almost hear the gears turning from here... although it could just be the cat snoring ;(
22:34 mircea_popescu nubbins` no dood. 2parties contribute 10 btc each. the winner gets his 10 btc back
22:34 mircea_popescu the loser's goes to judges and 1 btc left over.
22:34 nubbins` yeah, that didn't work tho
22:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5737 @ 0.00094708 = 5.4334 BTC [-]
22:35 mircea_popescu sure. but the problem was hardly the incentive structure.
22:35 nubbins` so you remove the defendant's fee, which solves the problem you identified where mpex gets bled dry, and you make 1btc of the plaintiff's fee non-refundable, which solves the payroll problem
22:37 mircea_popescu dude wtf.
22:37 mircea_popescu plaintif wins. gets 10 btc back. who pays the judges ?
22:37 nubbins` no.
22:37 nubbins` plaintiff wins, gets 9btc back.
22:37 mircea_popescu lol. plaintiff never wins ?
22:37 bocobit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx1mryKqvT8
22:37 nubbins` you want the rota to solve your problems for you, it costs you 1btc.
22:38 mircea_popescu and who pays the judges ?
22:38 mircea_popescu do they make 3 btc if defendant wins, and 0 if plaintiff wins ?
22:38 nubbins` they don't make shit until their contract is up
22:39 mircea_popescu that'll never work.
22:39 nubbins` sure it will.
22:39 nubbins` if defendant wins, he gets the 9btc.
22:39 nubbins` the 1btc -- and nothing more -- always goes to the judge fund
22:40 MisterE who picks judges and where they come from?
22:40 mircea_popescu MisterE was a self-nomination thing, originally. see the article
22:40 MisterE sorry I came in late in the chat
22:40 nubbins` if some asshole sends 100btc to mpex for no reason and wants to rota it, he pays 10btc, you pay 0btc.
22:40 nubbins` 1btc immediately goes to judges fund
22:40 nubbins` asshole wins: he gets 9btc refund. you win: you get 9btc payout.
22:41 nubbins` now tell me if people would be bringing frivolous claims to a court set up like that.
22:41 mircea_popescu o.o
22:41 nubbins` tell me if people wouldn't be encouraged to solve their own problems rather than whining to btc dad
22:41 mircea_popescu i think perhaps you may be optimising for a differen tproblem.
22:41 nubbins` solving all of them at once, really
22:41 MisterE bitcointalk is there the whiners are
22:42 nubbins` i don't think there are any problems left ;D
22:42 mircea_popescu cool. im off to bed.
22:42 nubbins` nitey
22:44 nubbins` rota was a fine idea but just incorrectly structured from the start. it'd probably still be going if it was set up the way i've outlined ;D
22:45 nubbins` MisterE: http://trilema.com/category/rota/
22:45 MisterE thanks
22:45 nubbins` having the defendant pay 10btc creates a strong disincentive to participate
22:46 nubbins` at least if there's no fee to register a defence, he's got nothing to lose by participating
22:49 MisterE fees are always the plantiff's burden
22:49 nubbins` as it should be
22:49 MisterE frivolous suits are weeded out that way
22:50 nubbins` you got it
22:50 MisterE wel many are
22:50 the20year1 As far as user trust goes, what's more important btc-otc or bitcointalk?
22:50 MisterE I habent read yet but this is BTC arbitration?
22:50 MisterE the20year1: same
22:50 MisterE we;l not same but very similar
22:50 nubbins` the20year1: if you ask people on irc, -otc. if you ask people on the forums, the forums.
22:51 MisterE users here are the top of the pyramid
22:51 the20year1 i'm sure the best answer is 'get both' , but i'm coming to realize that trust is good, it might save me some cash over the next 2 months
22:51 nubbins` both is nice to have
22:51 MisterE trust can save you *a lot*
22:51 nubbins` forum people don't give a fuck about otc ratings, and vice versa
22:51 MisterE if you have to shoose get rated by people here
22:52 nubbins` it depends on who you plan on doing business with
22:52 MisterE right
22:52 the20year1 Lucky for me, the bulk of my investors aren't on either, however it'd be good going forward to have good ratings on both
22:52 MisterE can I borrow something so I can pay it back and get rated?
22:53 MisterE get them on wot ASAP
22:54 kakobrekla but that requires reading stuff.
22:54 the20year1 Well, in my case i've been 'loaned' something like 800btc
22:54 kakobrekla re borrowing, yeah bitcoinpete just did that a day or three ago iirc
22:54 the20year1 and out of that, among the 450ish users, some should be on irc & btct
22:55 nubbins` i don't think borrowing and repaying is a particularly good way of building trust.
22:55 kakobrekla never said that .
22:55 nubbins` no, MisterE hinted at it tho
22:55 MisterE :)
22:56 MisterE I just want to get my rating off the ground
22:56 MisterE kakobrekla: yea thats where I got the idea
22:56 nubbins` so do something that'll make people trust you :P
22:56 MisterE heh
22:56 nubbins` "i got a loan and paid it back" is just another way of saying "i'm not going to pay back the first loan that's big enough"
22:57 kakobrekla suck a dick without biting it off
22:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00094708 = 10.1338 BTC [-]
22:57 the20year1 pretty much
22:59 MisterE lolol
22:59 the20year1 Did you know there are 3 grades of ketchup?
22:59 MisterE not surprised
22:59 MisterE easy to make
23:00 kakobrekla tomatoes *SPLASH* ketchup
23:00 MisterE I make my own bbq / ketchup / marinara
23:00 MisterE heh nearly
23:00 MisterE vinegar
23:01 nubbins` garlic
23:01 nubbins` i've got pasta sauce from scratch figured out
23:01 nubbins` haven't tried ketchup from scratch yet ;D
23:02 the20year1 standard, extra standard and fancy
23:05 nubbins` i wonder which one heinz is
23:06 nubbins` ketchup and plastic film are two products where i always spend extra to get the name-brand stuff
23:06 bounce you know, there's a long history of (non-bitcoin) courts and such, and also a long history of abuse in various forms. question then is why and when doesn't such a system get abused (or at least not too much, and then what is this not too much you speak of)?
23:09 kakobrekla http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-used-client-money-operations-extravagances-allege-staff/
23:09 kakobrekla lolwtf
23:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12702 @ 0.00094716 = 12.0308 BTC [+] {2}
23:12 kakobrekla ona day he has all btc, the next none, the third some, the fourth all again, but on the fifth it seems all is gone.
23:13 nubbins` bounce: generally historic courts did not impose a 10btc fee on the plaintiffs, only 9btc of which will be returned in the event of a win.
23:14 nubbins` seems impossibly foolhardy in retrospect, but they were simpler times
23:22 the20year1 There have been courts historically who charge the plaintiff large fees to file a case
23:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00095082 = 13.4541 BTC [+] {3}
23:34 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/kIoqjQG.jpg
23:35 MisterE in thailand your fee is a percentage of the damages you seek
23:36 MisterE and that can get hefty
23:36 MisterE rather like the concept tho
23:36 MisterE some future costs can be paid from that fee though iirc
23:37 nubbins` interesting
23:38 nubbins` anyway, one more link then bed
23:38 nubbins` http://www.fruitsaladtrees.com/
23:38 ozbot Fruit Salad Tree Company | Home
23:38 MisterE -assets should fund the space elevator!
23:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15192 @ 0.00095313 = 14.48 BTC [+] {2}
23:39 MisterE news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140306-space-elevator-partial-orbit-science/
23:41 bitcoinpete kakobrekla: thanks for the rating! was wondering if you know what to do about some other guy who rated me -1 with comment "Nick squatter using this nick to scam you. Ask in channel to have this scammer authenticate." http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=bitcoinpete&sign=ANY&type=RECV
23:41 bitcoinpete seems this guy is a nicksquatter patrolman of sorts
23:42 mike_c did you email him?
23:45 bitcoinpete not yet, but you're right, that's the first thing to do
23:45 novusordo sounds like someone's using your nick to scam others while unauthenticated
23:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.0009541 = 16.3151 BTC [+]
23:46 bitcoinpete i thought people knew better than to work with unauthenticated people
23:46 novusordo only complete noobs don't
23:47 bitcoinpete this Michail1 must be protector and defender of noobs then
23:47 bitcoinpete yeesh
23:47 novusordo you can message nickserv "set enforce on" to automatically kick people off your username after 30 seconds if they haven't authed
23:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00095427 = 19.3717 BTC [+] {3}
23:48 bitcoinpete did not know that, thx
23:50 novusordo i'm sure if you message Michail1 while authed, he'll remove the rating
23:52 joecool ;;events bitcoinpete
23:52 gribble http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?bitcoinpete&&&&&
23:52 ozbot OTC bitcoinpete
23:53 joecool bitcoinpete: yeah you had a squatter on your nick :P
23:54 bitcoinpete joecool hot damn
23:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05739998 = 0.1148 BTC [+] {2}
23:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6227 @ 0.00095225 = 5.9297 BTC [-]
23:59 bitcoinpete ;;ident bitcoinpete
23:59 gribble Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is identified as user 'bitcoinpete', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
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