Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-12-01 | 2013-12-03 → ↓
00:03 thestringpuller !ticker m s.bbet
00:03 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0005 / 0.0005 / 0.0005 (500 shares, 0.25 BTC), 7D: 0.0005 / 0.0007278 / 0.00075 (35000 shares, 25.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066899 / 0.00075 (45237 shares, 30.26 BTC)
00:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05000011 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2}
00:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00330011 = 0.198 BTC [+]
00:05 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
00:05 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00078987 / 0.00079353 / 0.00079603 (133027 shares, 105.56 BTC), 7D: 0.00077981 / 0.00079847 / 0.0008476 (1314264 shares, 1,049.41 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00081869 / 0.00088996 (6179919 shares, 5,059.49 BTC)
00:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.15899996 = 0.477 BTC [+] {2}
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.15993332 = 0.9596 BTC [+] {3}
00:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.16999999 = 0.51 BTC [+] {2}
00:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.17499983 BTC [+]
00:21 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.00000054 * 126
00:21 gribble 6.804e-05
00:22 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.00000054 * 1260
00:22 gribble 0.0006804
00:22 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.00000054 * 12600
00:22 gribble 0.006804
00:22 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.00000054 * 126000
00:22 gribble 0.06804
00:22 thestringpuller ;;calc 126000 / 0.0008
00:22 gribble 157500000
00:23 thestringpuller ;;calc 126000 * 0.0008
00:23 gribble 100.8
00:23 thestringpuller ;;calc 12600 * 0.0008
00:23 gribble 10.08
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01:10 benkay .d
01:10 ozbot 707408283.05150 | Next Diff in 1558 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.8290% in 8d 5h 27m 37s
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01:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
01:39 davout hello assets
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01:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
01:58 Duffer1 hi
02:04 KRS|gotyawallet the fuck..? are you guys watching #bitcoin-pricetalk and btc-revolution?
02:04 KRS|gotyawallet Bitcoin PSA‏@BitcoinPSA2h
02:04 KRS|gotyawallet @PumpNDumpTeam That wasn't a crash. It was retaliation towards pump and dumpers....
02:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.34 = 2.72 BTC [+]
02:09 benkay naw man, what's going on over there?
02:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1027 @ 0.00302118 = 3.1028 BTC [-] {15}
02:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 397 @ 0.00293567 = 1.1655 BTC [-] {17}
02:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 156 @ 0.00282141 = 0.4401 BTC [-] {17}
02:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2746 @ 0.0026477 = 7.2706 BTC [-] {17}
02:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3113 @ 0.00107797 = 3.3557 BTC [-] {11}
02:18 knotwork http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html has been updated with new links, including a link to the new report http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/companies.html
02:18 ozbot Digitalis Open Transactions server: Assets
02:20 benkay goodness, what is this?
02:20 KRS|gotyawallet hang on
02:25 benkay wow so much wtf
02:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.330101 BTC [-]
02:31 KRS|gotyawallet ikr
02:32 KRS|gotyawallet happy to bring it back to my friends here at btcassets
02:33 KRS|gotyawallet what bothers me still is that the price still looks so much like a bubble, even after realizing what was done yesterday/earlier.
02:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00314037 = 0.1162 BTC [+] {3}
02:35 benkay "what was done", meaning the 1250 > 840 > 1100 wobble?
02:35 KRS|gotyawallet right
02:35 KRS|gotyawallet <mike4> and btc-revolution-s why didn't you drop it to 20?
02:35 KRS|gotyawallet <btc-revolution-s> im a donor
02:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 374 @ 0.002 = 0.748 BTC [+]
02:36 KRS|gotyawallet ok it looks like he donated to "fontase"- 204 btc
02:37 KRS|gotyawallet to get in the "inner circle"
02:37 benkay wow wtfuckballs
02:37 KRS|gotyawallet <btc-revolution-s> to crash out a ppump and dumper
02:37 KRS|gotyawallet <btc-revolution-s> on his coins
02:37 KRS|gotyawallet <btc-revolution-s> so he couldent get them back out
02:37 KRS|gotyawallet <mike4> lol
02:37 KRS|gotyawallet its all in #bitcoin-pricetalk if there are any logs following that chat room
02:37 benkay oh i'm watching now
02:38 KRS|gotyawallet basically- if this is true, hold your coins..according to him its going to be a "rough two weeks".
02:39 benkay i have a hard time buying some rando in pricetalk's claims to move the entire btc market
02:39 Duffer1 what's he trying to accomplish?
02:40 KRS|gotyawallet stop pumper and dumpers
02:40 KRS|gotyawallet i guess i can pastebin tis
02:40 KRS|gotyawallet this
02:40 Duffer1 oh alt coin p&d?
02:41 KRS|gotyawallet http://pastebin.com/k6fgbMcA
02:41 ozbot <wentknweqt_> good luck with stopping the pump and dumpers. i don't believe you - Pastebin.com
02:41 KRS|gotyawallet yeah even btc p&d
02:42 KRS|gotyawallet some of these might be the "whales"
02:43 benkay just no
02:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.00314999 = 0.3402 BTC [+] {2}
02:45 benkay maybe there are people with giant amounts of btc floating around still who are trying to p/d, but the pumps last an entire month and the dumps last for trivial amounts of time
02:46 Duffer1 it seems he's taking credit for cryptsy's current troubles
02:49 Duffer1 ohh donate to fontas to get inside info, then crush it
02:50 benkay /query bingoboingo
02:52 KRS|gotyawallet right
02:52 KRS|gotyawallet -> benkay
02:52 KRS|gotyawallet yes Duffer1
02:53 KRS|gotyawallet <btc-revolution-s> we are the anti-pump and dumpers
02:53 KRS|gotyawallet <btc-revolution-s> group of donors crashing out pump and dumpers - i thought you were in here with head banana and some others when we gave our first warnings
02:54 benkay more like doner kebab
02:55 KRS|gotyawallet he is that dude who's trying to live without fiat 100% btc
02:55 Duffer1 it's almost a case of too little too late, everything on BTC-E is already absurdly overpriced
02:55 KRS|gotyawallet it seems they did the same with litecoin
02:56 KRS|gotyawallet now looking back at the markets its amazing how they naturally normalize after some time
02:56 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
02:57 Duffer1 fontas just tweeted colossus coin pump, guess he's moving on to the coin graveyard er i mean cryptsy
02:58 KRS|gotyawallet heh i made some good money with fontas
02:58 KRS|gotyawallet i think he's funny
02:58 Duffer1 ya no doubt there's money to be had from it
02:58 Duffer1 and with the amount of B following him, pumping some of those .00000001 coins on cryptsy could be very lucrative
02:59 KRS|gotyawallet According to btc-revolution its "bad for btc" =/
02:59 KRS|gotyawallet you better believe
02:59 KRS|gotyawallet that is right duffer1
02:59 benkay i still want to know what this is all about: http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/companies.html
03:02 KRS|gotyawallet hmm
03:03 KRS|gotyawallet very interesting- a ton of DVC (Devcoin) was just deposited into some exchanges who ran out..many are anticipating a rise in value
03:03 KRS|gotyawallet if dDVC is devcoin?
03:03 Duffer1 ya that's devcoin
03:03 KRS|gotyawallet Devcorp?
03:04 KRS|gotyawallet ok so they are paying developers in Devcoin?
03:04 Duffer1 apparently that was it's original purpose
03:05 Duffer1 i don't know much about the coin, other than it will be de-listed from mcxNOW soon
03:07 KRS|gotyawallet mcxNOW is being delisted from mcxNOW heh
03:07 KRS|gotyawallet its all over for them
03:07 Duffer1 could be
03:08 Duffer1 realsolid is a flake
03:18 KRS|gotyawallet thats the impression i got
03:18 KRS|gotyawallet but damn..this looks too much like a bubble so idk what side of the fence to be on here..
03:19 Duffer1 which coin?
03:20 KRS|gotyawallet btc
03:20 Duffer1 oh
03:20 benkay just be on the btc coin
03:21 benkay develop a smug regard for day-traders
03:21 benkay cackle gleefully when you are living your life during mini crashes
03:22 benkay "what, there was a 30% value wobble? lol too bad i was busy drinking champange to notice"
03:26 KRS|gotyawallet ya i play with altcoins fur the lulz all btc atm
03:27 KRS|gotyawallet haha benkay
03:36 wao-ender mircea_popescu: are you related somehow to Ionut Popescu ?
03:37 sgnb I heard this name was very common in Romania
03:38 wao-ender oh
03:38 wao-ender ok
03:38 wao-ender I just found him here http://defcamp.ro/speakers/
03:38 dub hold the slashdots RMS is drooling on his shoes again
03:38 dub is it safe to visit .ro sites yet?
03:38 dub last I herd it was instavirus
03:39 wao-ender :D
03:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 376 @ 0.00039999 = 0.1504 BTC [+]
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04:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.0551 = 0.2755 BTC [+]
04:26 zacm i hope the place stallman speaks at has his special diet accomodations in mind. he's on a toenail diet, remember.
04:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00079266 = 9.393 BTC [-]
04:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00304989 = 0.122 BTC [+] {3}
04:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 121 @ 0.00300345 = 0.3634 BTC [-] {4}
04:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 279 @ 0.00324497 = 0.9053 BTC [+] {8}
04:41 jurov` Login temporarily discouraged huh
04:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00214 = 0.1498 BTC [+]
04:52 KRS|gotyawallet $upernode Lifestyle
04:53 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5KlZNh1WA
04:53 ozbot Official Video: Snoop Lion "La La La" (prod. Major Lazer) - YouTube
04:54 KRS|gotyawallet Hey whats up Vexual =D
04:54 KRS|gotyawallet Did you see what Snoop said about btc
04:54 Vexual no
04:55 KRS|gotyawallet https://twitter.com/SnoopDogg
04:55 ozbot Snoop Dogg (SnoopDogg) on Twitter
04:55 Vexual he he
04:56 KRS|gotyawallet Major Lazer..hmm ever hear this one-
04:56 Vexual he must have a hookup to visa
04:56 Vexual i just bought reincarnated on vinyl with my visa, and i'm sure they can connect that
04:57 KRS|gotyawallet video is hilarious
04:57 KRS|gotyawallet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-NXv5Tma0
04:57 ozbot Major Lazer - Bubble Butt (feat. Bruno Mars, 2 Chainz, Tyga & Mystic) - Directed by Eric Wareheim -
04:57 KRS|gotyawallet I could swear you can see the girl's anus when she bends down
04:57 Vexual flip it reverse it and check it
04:58 mircea_popescu wao-ender nah, i'm not related to any other popescu you might have heard of
04:58 mircea_popescu (it's kind of a common surname, like smith or brown or something)
04:59 KRS|gotyawallet dat ass
04:59 KRS|gotyawallet my house is shaking with all this bass its 5AM here
04:59 mircea_popescu and look at that, somebody tried to rape mpoe bot and failed!
05:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00214 = 0.107 BTC [+]
05:04 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Rn2HXrqUBA
05:04 ozbot Snoop Dogg - 02 Think About It - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube
05:11 davout mircea_popescu: if the girl is bored send her this way -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354365.msg3794760
05:11 Vexual mp, you gonna endore gangsta rap now?
05:11 mircea_popescu Vexual i just trolled thestringpuller
05:11 mircea_popescu because i can.
05:11 Vexual excellent
05:12 Vexual love your work
05:12 mircea_popescu davout "Cloudflare talked a major CA into issuing a certificate for any domain with a cloudflare-generated keypair;"
05:12 mircea_popescu that may be technically correct. they might have done exactly that, through the mediation of the us secretary of state.
05:13 davout i think it has more to do with "oh your DNS is configured to cloudflare, where do i sign?"
05:13 davout but hey, only idiots rule out the NSA
05:13 zacm bitcointalk hijacked by us govt? never!
05:14 mircea_popescu zacm no, just the usg using american companies as governmental agents.
05:14 mircea_popescu it cost cisco its business last month, pretty much, but the practice isn't new.
05:15 mircea_popescu "Because the HTTPS protocol is pretty terrible" no look, he has a point.
05:15 mircea_popescu https is not secure enough to run a forum on.
05:16 mircea_popescu holy shit his signature is 1kb DSA ?!
05:16 zacm wonder what they want access to a bitcoin forum for.
05:16 Vexual maybe they want everyone to scatter so it's harder to infomine
05:19 mircea_popescu ;;google "we're being probed"
05:19 gribble Forensic experts visit fire site, conspiracy angle being probed - The ...: <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhopal/Forensic-experts-visit-fire-site-conspiracy-angle-being-probed/articleshow/26684168.cms>; Senior Chinese official sacked in corruption probe | Reuters: <http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/30/us-china-corruption-idUSBRE9AT01B20131130>; Peaches Geldof (1 more message)
05:19 mircea_popescu fucking useless google still eh ?
05:19 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/boys-and-girls-i-got-news-were-being-probed/
05:19 ozbot Boys and girls, I got news : we’re being probed. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
05:24 dexX7 very good quality ddos :D
05:27 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk5lvIiNDDI
05:27 ozbot Snoop Dogg - Gin & Juice (Official Video) - YouTube
05:32 mircea_popescu davout "This merchant stuff solves an imaginary problem in a broken way, what's next in the core tree? Discount codes? Loyalty programs?" no, i tihnk you pretty much got it.
05:32 mircea_popescu imho the main trunk became spurious somewhere around 4.3.0 or thereabouts. i have no idea who even follows their github anymore.
05:32 KRS|gotyawallet +1 Vexual
05:33 Vexual http://www.anyclip.com/movies/waterworld/talking-to-thief-on-boat/#!quotes/
05:33 ozbot Talking to Thief on Boat from Waterworld | Anyclip
05:34 KRS|gotyawallet Vedual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_REsvdCg0
05:34 KRS|gotyawallet Vexual
05:34 KRS|gotyawallet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq_REsvdCg0
05:34 ozbot Filter - Welcome To The Fold (Official Video) - YouTube
05:34 KRS|gotyawallet let it ride a min if you havent heard it yet
05:36 Vexual its making dogs bark
05:37 KRS|gotyawallet hah they like it
05:37 Vexual where are they fropm?
05:37 KRS|gotyawallet The U.S. - Ohio
05:39 mircea_popescu ;;bcstats
05:39 gribble Current Blocks: 272645 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 1530 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 20 hours, 15 minutes, and 15 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 868927085.081 | Estimated Percent Change: 22.83247
05:39 KRS|gotyawallet shit already
05:39 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLGde-7mIyA
05:39 ozbot Wolfmother - Woman - YouTube
05:40 KRS|gotyawallet Aussies
05:40 KRS|gotyawallet Heard Australia is a GREAT place to visit. I shall have to try to make it there at some point.
05:40 KRS|gotyawallet Hey these guys are good.
05:41 Vexual i think they retired
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 91 @ 0.00459999 = 0.4186 BTC [-]
05:43 truffles wolf father doesnt have the same affect eh
05:43 Vexual all the kids are retiring at 35 these days
05:45 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8Jic9jE-I
05:45 ozbot Porque te vas - Kill Cruise. 1990 (fragmento) - YouTube
05:48 truffles well that wasnt expected
05:49 Vexual ive got a bitbet for ya
05:50 Vexual someone will fuck with friedcats hongkong rooftop radiator before bitcoin has to fork
05:50 Vexual except we would never hear about the radiator
05:52 Vexual someone called galvanic corrosion
05:54 Vexual teflon tape? really!?!?
05:56 Vexual the coolant might be inert, but honk kong rain aint
06:00 Vexual chinese ingenuity, or honeypot?
06:01 Vexual misinfo is worth more than a days crane hire
06:05 KRS|gotyawallet Vexual ever hear bitcoin baron
06:05 KRS|gotyawallet soundcloud
06:05 Vexual probably, is it shit?
06:06 KRS|gotyawallet its ok check it
06:06 KRS|gotyawallet https://soundcloud.com/#ytcracker/ytcracker-bitcoin-baron-v1-ssl
06:06 ozbot SoundCloud - Share Your Sounds
06:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00328588 = 0.1643 BTC [-] {2}
06:06 KRS|gotyawallet took me a few times to really like it..but you gotta like it because its btc
06:06 KRS|gotyawallet lyrics are good imo
06:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00329136 = 0.9874 BTC [+] {3}
06:14 Vexual http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cba_1385947815
06:14 ozbot LiveLeak.com - Amazon Experimenting With Drones That Will Deliver Packages In 30 Minutes
06:19 kakobrekla https://twitter.com/Driedfred/status/407063820192858112
06:19 ozbot Twitter / Driedfred: My new credit card came in ...
06:22 mircea_popescu "hey guise guess what, my secret key is just like my name lol. but it's all cool because i have a paper wallet."
06:23 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Driedfred/status/407432695690846208 at least she's seen the good word.
06:23 ozbot Twitter / Driedfred: Claudia should stop rubbing ...
06:25 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHUNWqmasxk
06:25 ozbot Crank Yankers Niles Needs Assistance - YouTube
06:26 KRS|gotyawallet that drone delivery is kickass isnt it
06:31 Vexual yeah, order a book, get a free quadcopter
06:34 Vexual then it's all trustless deaddrops with innocent looking yellow lunchboxes
06:38 Vexual a big mesh of the bastards
06:38 KRS|gotyawallet hehe
06:42 Vexual i guess thats why we're not allowed nuclear AA batteries
06:44 Vexual im off to the lab
06:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00328809 = 0.3288 BTC [-] {2}
06:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 405 @ 0.00329487 = 1.3344 BTC [+] {9}
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07:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05010003 = 0.2505 BTC [-]
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07:33 ThickAsThieves sure does take a long time to sync the btc client with the network
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07:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 35 @ 0.05007715 = 1.7527 BTC [-] {5}
07:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 148 @ 0.00282106 = 0.4175 BTC [-] {9}
08:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00331 = 0.2979 BTC [+]
08:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.33072 = 9.9216 BTC [+] {2}
08:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3303 = 0.6606 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.05799996 = 0.29 BTC [+] {3}
08:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 30 @ 0.03 = 0.9 BTC [-]
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08:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 5000 @ 0.00012164 = 0.6082 BTC [+] {7}
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08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 429 @ 0.00200081 = 0.8583 BTC [-] {2}
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3975 @ 0.00009603 = 0.3817 BTC [-] {4}
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.00200081 = 0.2881 BTC [-]
08:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00195363 = 4.8841 BTC [-] {10}
08:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 363 @ 0.00190272 = 0.6907 BTC [-] {7}
08:49 turbo_ac100 ;;market sell 10000
08:49 gribble A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 8838602.1661 USD and would take the last price down to 780.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 883.8602 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 215.1774 seconds
08:50 turbo_ac100 is that gox only?
08:51 ThickAsThieves yes
08:51 ThickAsThieves i suggest you sell 10000 btc more tactfully though ;)
08:55 dub 20 hour work day ftw
08:58 truffles orly
08:59 truffles sitting at a desk counting coins?
09:00 dub if only
09:00 dub i been on the street slangin packets
09:00 truffles no way u were productive all 20..
09:01 pankkake ThickAsThieves: you can speed it up with https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0
09:02 pankkake somehow firefox does not want me to connect to bitcointalk. but chrome does, and it doesn't seem to be a dns issue
09:04 deadweasel mebbe?
09:04 deadweasel News: If you used your password to login between 06:00 Dec 1 UTC and 20:00 Dec 2 UTC (this is in the future -- do not login until then), then your password may have been captured in a man-in-the-middle attack, and you should change your password here and wherever else you used it. If you were only logged in via the "remember me" feature, then you're OK.
09:04 deadweasel via bitcointalk
09:05 deadweasel no worries, i haven't logged in since snackman.
09:11 ThickAsThieves forum doesnt work in any browser for me
09:12 dexX7 be careful tat
09:12 ThickAsThieves careful of ?
09:12 dexX7 ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rvrrn/bitcointalkorg_man_in_the_middle_attack_change/cdrfjmh
09:13 dexX7 and http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rvrrn/bitcointalkorg_man_in_the_middle_attack_change/ in general
09:13 deadweasel as long as you use 'remember me' you are ok.
09:13 deadweasel don't plaintext input your password currently.
09:13 dexX7 if you want access, you can change your dns entry to google's dns though. it's 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 and resolves correctly
09:14 ThickAsThieves i can wait
09:14 ThickAsThieves everyone can use a forum vacation
09:23 jurov` ;;seen topace
09:23 gribble topace was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 20 hours, 1 minute, and 19 seconds ago: <topace> the panama fund owns 80m units, but since the ipo didnt sell out, it actually holds ~83.3m units still.
09:27 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rwkzi/just_found_out_i_was_ripped_off_by_cavirtex/
09:27 ozbot Just found out i was ripped off by CAVirtex : Bitcoin
09:27 ThickAsThieves virtex really charges for inactivity??
09:27 ThickAsThieves kinda scammy
09:30 ThickAsThieves Once the number of Bitcoins in circulation reaches 21 million in 2024, bounties will no longer be paid out on block discovery, and facilities such as ASICMINER's will have a choice: to either re-purpose their cooled computing power, or shut their mines down forever.
09:31 ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/5165428/bitcoin-mine-in-hong-kong-uses-jelly-to-keep-cool
09:31 ozbot The secret Hong Kong facility that uses boiling goo to mine Bitcoins | The Verge
09:31 ThickAsThieves so bitcoin will die when they are all mined
09:31 ThickAsThieves sorry guys
09:31 kleeck "boiling goo" - The finest journalism.
09:33 TomServo Here's some good humor, a slashdot comment for a solution to blockchain bloat:
09:33 TomServo What is really needed is a system where coins outside of circulation lose value so that the length of the blockchain can be easily kept to a manageable size because lost coins will disappear and the amount of history you have to keep (and verify) will be much smaller.
09:34 sgnb when will people understand that it is not safe to keep anything on an exchange?
09:41 deadweasel reddit motto: 'we know just enough to get into trouble'
09:43 deadweasel ;;later tell mirceau_popescu I'm not sure I could get Ed Felten in here, but i'll give it whirl later.
09:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:46 jurov` deadweaeaeasel: his name is mircea_popescu
09:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999969 BTC [+]
09:54 dexX7 lol i thought this was a joke http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-amazon-prime-air-20131202,0,6889414.story?track=rss
09:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33999979 = 1.02 BTC [+]
09:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+]
09:56 topace ola
09:56 deadweasel feck, thanks jurov`
09:56 topace people lookin for me apparently
09:56 pankkake I wonder how it can work with city buildings - how do you prevent stealing?
09:58 ThickAsThieves and stealing/damage of the machine
09:59 deadweasel ;;later tell mircea_popescu sent Ed Felten a quick message, invited him to discuss here. :) Good Fun.
09:59 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:59 pankkake otherwise it's pretty cool to entirely bypass the postal system
10:00 truffles but does he like bitcoin deadweasel
10:00 ThickAsThieves people will have a blast taking them out of the air
10:00 dexX7 well, do people steal parcel transporter cars?
10:00 dexX7 hahaha
10:01 ThickAsThieves throw a pair of tied shoes at it
10:01 ThickAsThieves good fun
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10:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 260 @ 0.00329997 = 0.858 BTC [+] {5}
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10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.00330001 = 0.1749 BTC [+]
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10:54 lil_data butthurt brigade go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.40
10:55 lil_data next time invest only chargebackcoins
11:05 mike_c at least it was good for a laugh :) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.msg3710198#msg3710198
11:07 jurov` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.msg3795583 roflmao everyone accepting donations for legal action now
11:07 ozbot labcoin lawsuit
11:08 ThickAsThieves I still cant get forum to load
11:09 ThickAsThieves when i change dns to google it just erases the setting when i close the popup
11:12 mike_c the easiest people to scam are the victims of a previous scam. proven gullability!
11:13 lil_data i'd like to support this gentleman directly https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/nhySxoj.jpg
11:13 lil_data to hunt down all the btc bad guys
11:14 lil_data on the way to the moon
11:14 lil_data on a space segway
11:18 nubbins` bet his father would be ashamed
11:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+]
11:29 pankkake they wanted to believe in labcoin, I guess they now want to believe in the legal system
11:30 pankkake I thought the "LCSH" was about finding the guys and actually going there
11:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.33999999 BTC [+]
11:42 jamespeerless can someone explain how the weight works on bitbet?
11:44 kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/faq/#26
11:44 kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/faq/#140
11:44 ozbot FAQ BitBet
11:44 ozbot FAQ BitBet
11:45 kakobrekla i starts at 100k and goes down to whatever its set to go down to
11:46 kakobrekla to account for the risk that early bettors are taking and discourage leechers
11:46 jamespeerless is the idea that at the start of the bet the odds aren't really known?
11:46 kakobrekla it starts*
11:46 kakobrekla or else it wouldnt be much of a bet
11:47 kakobrekla if outcome is known
11:48 jamespeerless so it's to handle bets that range over long period of time or where information is leaked over time
11:48 jamespeerless but if its "will the patriots win on sunday" WHEN you bet doesn't matter if the game hasn't started
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 353 @ 0.00339082 = 1.197 BTC [+] {10}
11:50 pankkake what if a player gets ill?
11:50 pankkake it's a new information
11:50 pankkake late bettors usually have better info and less risk
11:51 pankkake but there are bets where it wouldn't matter - and in that case you can create the bet with a higher last weight
11:51 jamespeerless i see
11:51 jamespeerless makes sense
11:52 jamespeerless and it decreases linearly over time?
11:53 pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/608/super-bowl-coin-toss-will-be-heads/ typically that bet really shouldn't go to weight 1… oh well
11:53 ozbot BitBet - Super Bowl coin toss will be "heads"
11:53 pankkake hm I think so yes
11:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.05998899 = 0.18 BTC [+]
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.05998899 = 0.4199 BTC [+] {3}
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2}
11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05998899 = 0.12 BTC [+]
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33999999 = 1.02 BTC [+]
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00348601 = 1.1051 BTC [+] {7}
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05998899 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2}
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05998899 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {2}
12:26 kakobrekla pankkake on that one the weight is just mitigating the risk of mps disappearance
12:26 kakobrekla ;)
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.05998899 = 0.5999 BTC [+] {2}
12:52 mircea_popescu deadweasel now invite nick.
12:56 mircea_popescu there once was a man, his name was magellan, a portuguese skipper, the girls found him cute...
12:57 pankkake ;;bc,xau
12:57 gribble 1 XAU = 1225.900000000000 USD = 1.18851836386 BTC
13:00 mircea_popescu btw pankkake, for your curiosity : since i finally fixed trilema credits ordering i'm getting about 10x as many orders.
13:00 mircea_popescu i'd have died stupid if you weren't here to bitch at me.
13:01 kakobrekla also poor.
13:01 pankkake so most of your readers are autists like me, cool
13:01 mircea_popescu i don't think poor was possible since about 1994 or so
13:01 kakobrekla oh, i always thought trilema credits were the source of your wealth
13:02 kakobrekla live and learn as they say
13:02 kakobrekla i wont die stuptd as well
13:02 mircea_popescu lmao
13:03 mircea_popescu pankkake i suppose it's the case that my readers DIDN'T USE TO BE autists like you. but not anymore nao. because progress and stuff.
13:04 assbot Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1490435/plain/)
13:04 mircea_popescu !b 10
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.00010996 = 0.3849 BTC [+] {3}
13:10 mircea_popescu http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=18 ahahah this guy is too funny.
13:10 ozbot #bitcoin-assets bash
13:10 mircea_popescu who's firedrops ?
13:16 pankkake oh I realize my coloring hook for assbot actually removes the first character
13:16 pankkake so it says 123! not 23! … makes sense now
13:17 mircea_popescu 23 is an unexpectedly low amount for assbot.
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.002045 = 0.225 BTC [+] {2}
13:19 pankkake 796
13:19 assbot 123!
13:21 dexX7 simply amazing
13:21 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:21 pankkake I shaved my manly beard today. Litteraly months of work down the drain
13:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.03000001 = 0.36 BTC [+]
13:23 pankkake literally* hmm.. lite. rally. there's a coin idea in there
13:26 mircea_popescu ltc to the moon!
13:27 mircea_popescu "every time you say literally but mean metaphorically mtgox kills a large pizza kitten"
13:27 jcpham i ignored litecoin for too long
13:27 jcpham now i'm even mining the shit for giggles
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00039999 = 0.2 BTC [+] {2}
13:28 jcpham only because i have the gpu mining rigs sitting unused
13:28 jcpham and it's worth $25-35
13:28 pankkake try http://middlecoin.com/
13:29 pankkake I'd use it, but I have no real GPUs
13:29 jcpham my gpus rigs have been sitting for months because i'm too lazy to go over there and pull them offline
13:29 jcpham should've been mining bullshit altcoin instead of laughing at them
13:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.03000001 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
13:31 mike_c are there any bullshit altcoins that are cpu mineable?
13:32 pankkake yes! protoshares or primecoin
13:32 pankkake quite profitable if you have a bunch of servers usually idling
13:34 pankkake I don't understand why people pay for them, but why pass the opportunity to get some free money
13:36 mike_c well, people have bought labcoin shares in the last week too.
13:37 pankkake http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/02/130226/why-people-are-so-bad-at-picking-passwords Studies suggest red-haired women tend to choose the best passwords and men with bushy beards or unkempt hair, the worst.
13:37 ozbot Why People Are So Bad At Picking Passwords - Slashdot
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14:00 mircea_popescu i thought the definition of bullshit altcoin was "can still gpu them"
14:00 mircea_popescu pankkake i can vouch for the gingers.
14:01 benkay mircea_popescu: why do gingers pick better passwords?
14:01 pankkake well the gpu mining community is by far the worst
14:01 mircea_popescu they pick better peckers too. they're just better.
14:01 mircea_popescu probably because they have no souls.
14:07 benkay emotions do interfere in the ruthless pursuit of capital
14:08 benkay and operational security
14:22 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-strange-case-of-the-delusionist-and-later-stories/
14:22 ozbot The strange case of the delusionist and later stories. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
14:26 ThickAsThieves tyoe
14:26 ThickAsThieves typo*
14:26 ThickAsThieves sunset
14:26 mircea_popescu a ty
14:27 ThickAsThieves are you color blind perchance?
14:27 ThickAsThieves the chart is not grey and red
14:27 ThickAsThieves it is teal and red
14:27 pankkake Bitcoin to trade at $100 USD by the end of March 2013 link is wrong
14:27 pankkake unless intentional
14:27 mircea_popescu i am colorblind
14:27 ThickAsThieves neat
14:28 mircea_popescu pankkake the anchor not the url :p
14:30 ThickAsThieves maybe a footnote for the artist credit?
14:30 mircea_popescu i put it in the alt for the img and it links to their page
14:30 ThickAsThieves ah
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14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.03154999 = 0.3155 BTC [+] {4}
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.17488997 = 0.3498 BTC [-] {2}
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15:23 benkay 23 days to christmas
15:24 benkay http://bitbet.us/bet/636/cardano-delivered-before-christmas/
15:24 ozbot BitBet - Cardano delivered before Christmas
15:27 thestringpuller benkay:
15:27 thestringpuller you there?
15:28 benkay yeah see pm
15:31 kleeck_ WHy does bitcointalk keep logging me out?
15:31 benkay so that the mitm can get your password
15:31 kleeck_ Try'nah snatch me passwords
15:31 kleeck_ exactly
15:31 kleeck_ lol
15:31 kleeck_ watching that handshake.
15:46 thestringpuller ;;seen jurov`
15:46 gribble jurov` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 38 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <jurov`> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325431.msg3795583 roflmao everyone accepting donations for legal action now
15:46 jurov` wat
15:46 thestringpuller pm
15:47 jurov` i don't see your pm
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.33040001 = 0.9912 BTC [-]
15:53 nubbins` hi
16:06 jurov` hi nubs
16:11 kakobrekla >BFL_Josh>here's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date), so this should only affect the earliest customers, who we've already contacted with regards to the delay. The majority of customers should not be affected much, if at all.
16:11 kakobrekla When I have a specific date from the foundry, I will post an update here with a revised timeline. We still expect to ship the bulk of the orders in/around February. Anyone ordering now will probably not get their order until March or April, just as an FYI and in the spirit of trying to keep realistic expectations on shipping times.
16:11 kakobrekla Due to the delay for the earliest people, the ones affected will be upgraded to the watercooled version for free. The watercooled Monarch will be a closed loop system, so no maintenance will be required.
16:12 thestringpuller .........
16:12 thestringpuller do we need another bfl bet?
16:13 kakobrekla dunno, those only go 1 year ahead
16:13 mircea_popescu hahaha
16:14 mircea_popescu i wonder if this is new text
16:14 mircea_popescu or they just copy/paste from the previous database.
16:17 thestringpuller lol @ mircea_popescu
16:17 thestringpuller I imagine Josh just copy pasting the same message every time there is a delay
16:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00187682 = 0.426 BTC [-] {7}
16:17 thestringpuller then going to the forums and justifying it
16:17 thestringpuller when will bfl disappear...
16:18 Vexual simple pattern learning
16:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 104 @ 0.00188528 = 0.1961 BTC [+] {5}
16:19 mircea_popescu by niow you could probably make a bfl competitor out of markov chains and php
16:22 mircea_popescu here's a wild thought : by the time bitcoins go for 1 mn dollars each,
16:23 mircea_popescu satoshi notation is exactly as precise as dollars and cents.
16:23 Vexual elegant
16:24 dub ke?
16:24 mircea_popescu by the time bitcoins go for 1bn each, which is probably their upper bound, each satoshi is ten bux
16:24 mircea_popescu and we can't make change worth a shit.
16:25 Vexual that would require global inflation where $10 wouldnt buy anything
16:25 ThickAsThieves just use litecoins, theyll only be worth $100k
16:25 ThickAsThieves :)
16:25 mircea_popescu Vexual not at all.
16:26 ThickAsThieves i was thinking about this a few days ago coincidentally
16:26 mircea_popescu the endgame where bitcoin is the universal backer of all currency and it trades somewhere in the 10mn to 1bn per range actually sees the dollar slightly stronger than it is today.
16:26 dub some poindexter at MIT worked out that satoshi-dime parity was $15k and change
16:26 ThickAsThieves and wondered why there are decimals at
16:26 ThickAsThieves al
16:26 ThickAsThieves l
16:26 dub wait, is dime 5c?
16:26 mircea_popescu dub is mit on alternate math ?
16:26 mircea_popescu a dime is 10 cents.
16:27 benkay mircea_popescu u know i been saying you gotta start writing options on lots of satoshis
16:27 benkay 0, 1, infinity
16:27 benkay we all know where this curve goes sir
16:27 mircea_popescu curve is romanian for whores.
16:27 dub iirc it was the smallest unit in amerifag money
16:27 mircea_popescu so i suppose they go to the brothel ?
16:27 dub which is 5c?
16:27 benkay save us all the accounting headache of figuring out how many fractions of a buttcoin the options are written on each month and just quote 'em in lots of satoshi and put it in the listing string!
16:27 mircea_popescu that's a nickle
16:28 mircea_popescu benkay 0.1 is clearer than 10000000
16:28 Vexual is ther 12 million billion dollars in the world?
16:28 jurov` use 1e7 :DDD
16:28 dub its going to be a real problem for a lot of bitcoiners
16:28 mircea_popescu Vexual upper bound tho.
16:28 benkay ^^ that scientific notation
16:28 dub how to buy a dimebag of crack when the smallest unit is $10????!
16:28 mircea_popescu global gnp is somewhere in the 20 trn (thousand billion) range.
16:29 benkay "what is one to do - scientific notation?" fuck yes!
16:30 benkay imagine the referential transparency: "O.USD.C125T.e6"
16:30 Vexual I don't understand the concept mircea
16:30 mircea_popescu Vexual which one ?
16:31 dub breathing through his nose
16:32 mircea_popescu !b3
16:32 Vexual upper bound
16:32 mircea_popescu upper bound is like "the highest something will ever conceivably go"
16:33 mircea_popescu like the upper bound for cranial capacity is about 3k cc, because there's a finite space between a woman
16:33 Vexual bitcoin trading to 1bn?
16:33 mircea_popescu 's legs which allows her to still walk upright
16:34 mircea_popescu <dub> how to buy a dimebag of crack when the smallest unit is $10????! <<< HOW TO PAY TX FEES ON THAT!!!
16:34 Vexual now im not an economist by any stretch of the imagination..
16:34 Vexual ah yes, fees
16:36 mircea_popescu Vexual looky : about 20 trn of new wealth is added to the world each year. the asset value of the world, all things told, is probably two to three degrees of magnitude above that.
16:36 mircea_popescu if one single currency is to represent all that value, and especially if that one single currency is bitcoin, where people exhibit a massive tendency to hoard it,
16:36 mircea_popescu it's not inconceivable that the btc still in circulation by the time btc takes over the whole world economy will trade at what would be the equivalent of today's billion dollars.
16:37 mircea_popescu it is probably forcing a point, which is why i say upper bound.
16:37 Vexual i agree
16:37 mircea_popescu "a billion dollars is the most bitcoin can ever be."
16:38 Vexual bit at 12 million billion, $10 ain't gonna buy shit
16:39 mircea_popescu it would buy exactly what it buys today.
16:39 mircea_popescu a hambuger or a cheap blowjob in america's inner city highschools.
16:39 mircea_popescu which, agreed, isn't shit.
16:40 Vexual waiting for that no fee confirm
16:40 mircea_popescu whole new prostitution dynamics, you send the no fee 1 satoshi tx as she takes her top off, the tx finally confirms by the time she's wiping her lip.
16:41 Vexual double spend and get the hamburger too
16:41 mircea_popescu perfect human-machine fit
16:45 KRS|gotyawallet heh nice
16:47 dub we're forgetting the dev team will save us
16:49 pankkake https://twitter.com/Driedfred/status/407063820192858112/photo/1 would those people be safer with bitcoin? :D
16:49 ozbot Twitter / Driedfred: My new credit card came in ...
16:49 Vexual kerkenbush
16:52 mircea_popescu pankkake this, speaking of prostitution ?
16:52 Vexual http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/World-Population-1800-2100.svg/300px-World-Population-1800-2100.svg.png
16:54 Vexual the grren line offs a few billion in 2 centuries
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03 = 0.12 BTC [-]
17:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.155 = 0.31 BTC [-]
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08305 = 0.1661 BTC [-] {2}
17:05 Vexual 90 BTC to give everyonbe on earth one satoshi
17:09 kakobrekla how to make 90 btc useless
17:12 BingoBoingo http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25190119 Iceland's growing up!
17:12 ozbot BBC News - Rare Iceland armed police operation leaves man dead
17:14 mircea_popescu Counselling is being provided to the special forces team.
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0297 = 0.3267 BTC [-]
17:15 Vexual @just imagine he was a seal@
17:20 Vexual http://news.sohu.com/20131203/n391160693.shtml
17:33 dub america: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/12/millennial_narcissism_helicopter_parents_are_college_students_bigger_problem.html
17:37 ThickAsThieves why is there a Lockheed Martin ad on that page
17:38 Vexual coz helicopter
17:39 ThickAsThieves what might a slate reader buy from LH? Or maybe it's a recruitment ad?
17:39 Vexual helicopter + college
17:40 Vexual a phd is paying someone to read something that took you 3 years to write.
17:40 dub ads are usually defined by your bubble not the site
17:41 jurov` “take your parents to work day.” rly, this is a thing???
17:42 dub I wonder how many people that took parents to a job interview got hired
17:43 dub what do you even have on your CV at that point?
17:43 mircea_popescu "Rates of depression are soaring among millennials in college."
17:43 dub I learned to wipe my own ass just the other day
17:43 truffles life is depressing, when thats figured out, maybe some will grow up
17:43 mircea_popescu i find the fact that this is even measured offensive.
17:43 jborkl so, Picostocks got haxxored for 6000btc now?
17:43 mircea_popescu fuck you, go live in the park.
17:43 Vexual lol, dr park
17:44 dub they should hand out cyanide pills instead of prozac
17:44 ThickAsThieves why does anyone take Peter Schiff seriously?
17:44 mircea_popescu " It became increasingly difficult to balance school, socializing, laundry, and a part-time job."
17:44 mircea_popescu no seriously ? get a job in porn, the set mother will tell you when you need to wash the cum off.
17:44 jborkl ie reading facebook while cooking hamburgers
17:45 mircea_popescu jborkl a few days back, the theory ghoes.
17:45 ThickAsThieves https://soundcloud.com/casper-cheng/peter-schiff-debate-with-erik
17:45 ThickAsThieves (voorhees)
17:46 jborkl I lose track, it isn't a exciting week anymore if less than 10,000 btc is hacked(run off with by a shitbag)
17:46 Vexual no wonder laudry coins
17:48 mircea_popescu "The big problem is not that they think too highly of themselves. Their bigger challenge is conflict negotiation, and they often are unable to think for themselves."
17:48 mircea_popescu how the fuck is this not self-contradictory ?
17:48 truffles shocker amy isnt a dood..
17:49 mircea_popescu inasmuch as they're not groveling nude at the feet of their betters, they DO think way too high of themselves.
17:49 mircea_popescu way, way too high.
17:49 truffles (gets a gf)
17:51 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99v9-4uk9ZQ
17:51 ozbot Beastie Boys : Skills to Pay the Bills - YouTube
17:52 jborkl All the noobs think they are really getting bitcoins back from (insert scammer of the week here)
17:52 ThickAsThieves mp this reminds me of the concept discussed in the past, of well-off parents not properly teaching their kids to stay wealthy, and then over X generations all wealth is lost to the family name
17:52 jborkl they have not been here in the past and seen (insert scammer of the past week here) did not pay anyone back
17:53 mike_c of course, since the ancestor who made the money is dead, who cares?
17:53 ThickAsThieves many care, legacy is a big deal for some
17:53 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the trick is, making a fortune and keeping a fortune are pretty divergent skills.
17:53 mircea_popescu consider the following imo very illustrative example :
17:54 mircea_popescu everyone involved in bitcoin of any consequence exhibits the "cave early" behaviour.
17:54 mike_c tough to enjoy your legacy when you're dead.
17:54 ThickAsThieves mike_c this value varies by culture
17:54 ThickAsThieves some really do enjoy knowing they have a legacy to leave
17:54 mircea_popescu now, this is a rare behaviour irl. if you go up to a girl and ask her out, it's rare that she says "ok, i'm willing to be your gf now" after two hours.
17:55 Vexual ah hem
17:55 mircea_popescu in general, the expectation will be that she caves late. and indeed should you after a three week courtship tell her gtfo, you should have said yes on the first pass it'll be unexpected.
17:55 mircea_popescu now, bitcoiners are exactly the opposite : they are in bitcoin because they caved early, to the lures of this bitcoin idea.
17:55 mircea_popescu the bears are more akin to the girl : they expect bitcoin to court them.
17:56 mircea_popescu the funny thing is, that the people who caved early and got bitcoin will continue with the same behaviour : they cave early and get dollars, too.
17:56 ThickAsThieves and will thus miss much of the appreciation
17:56 mircea_popescu this is why we see this see saw pattern on the price : once it reaches 100 everyone who thought "three digits" sells out
17:56 mircea_popescu the mounting buying pressure is temporarily sated, but then later on ? 200, 500, 800 go by like a dream
17:56 mircea_popescu because all the kids who were going to sell at 100 to 1000 sold at 130ish
17:57 mircea_popescu the same will repeat for a while, i suspect. most of the people that willl sell under 10k have sold or are about to sell at 1k ish
17:57 mircea_popescu now, this behaviour clearly does not optimize the $$$ you get for your btc,
17:57 mircea_popescu but it is coherent with the behaviour that GOT YOU that btc in the first place.
17:58 mircea_popescu and this is not limited to our narrow corner of tghe world. keeping a fortune and making a fortune are widely different skillsets.
17:58 Vexual eat rice
17:59 Vexual sell wagu
18:03 mircea_popescu obviously the same cave early behaviour is related to a lot of the forum-style scammy nonsense passing for investment so successfully.
18:03 mircea_popescu everythin's connected.
18:03 Vexual people are mostly just fish with arms
18:04 truffles orly
18:05 Vexual 1,2,4,?
18:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00078568 = 7.0711 BTC [-]
18:07 Vexual 8,64
18:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00010998 = 1.0998 BTC [+] {4}
18:11 benkay 7,96
18:13 kakobrekla 79.6
18:13 Vexual http://www.fractalsciencekit.com/fractals/large/Fractal-Mobius-Dragon-IFS-04.jpg
18:15 Vexual http://www.cohenvanbalen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Life-Support-ventilation-dog_print-a4.jpg solve for x
18:18 mike_c ugh, i'm mining litecoins. somebody smack me please.
18:19 mircea_popescu what's diff at yet ?
18:19 mike_c i think i'm currently losing about $2 an hour
18:19 benkay` huh
18:19 benkay` that sounded like a bubble popping
18:19 mircea_popescu lol
18:20 mike_c diff is 1,734
18:20 mircea_popescu wow.
18:20 mike_c projected: 12% bump in 17 hours
18:20 ThickAsThieves i've been selling off my ltc-mining setups
18:20 ThickAsThieves they just sat for mos
18:20 ThickAsThieves my bad
18:20 mircea_popescu it's winter tho
18:21 pankkake just use middlecoin
18:21 ThickAsThieves turns out i hate caring for computers and being hot
18:21 mircea_popescu heh.
18:21 mircea_popescu i made that call in 2011.
18:21 mircea_popescu boy it saved me so much aggravation hence.
18:21 ThickAsThieves i basically stopped once it was all paid for
18:22 Vexual they were losing $2 an hour in 2009, but not getting hot
18:22 ThickAsThieves the stuff has better resale value than i expected
18:22 ThickAsThieves getting like $225+ for GPUs
18:22 pankkake lol, they probably went up in price too
18:23 pankkake usually stuff used for mining is considered half dead
18:23 ThickAsThieves some is, the 7970 seems prone to this
18:23 ThickAsThieves it gets all glitchy for normal use
18:25 mircea_popescu 225 seems insane, nvidia cards are better for gaming anywqay
18:25 mike_c well, that was fun. experience gained, miner off.
18:25 kakobrekla retired already?
18:25 mircea_popescu lol
18:25 mike_c can't afford it :)
18:26 mircea_popescu he's off to buy the east indies on his accumulated mined coins
18:26 kakobrekla i still use same gpu as in 2011
18:26 kakobrekla mined howmany coins on it
18:27 kakobrekla noone knows.
18:27 kakobrekla a bunch.
18:27 Vexual 24/7ish?
18:27 kakobrekla well its not mining any more but at the time yeah
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3304002 BTC [+]
18:27 kakobrekla in a dedi rig
18:28 kakobrekla then i moved it to my main box
18:28 Vexual hashrate?
18:28 kakobrekla its a 5770 OCed to shit
18:29 kakobrekla 255 mhash
18:29 kakobrekla 260 on a good day
18:29 kakobrekla iirc
18:30 kakobrekla anyway no glitches or anything and i abused the card a lot
18:30 mircea_popescu sounds like a good amount of card.
18:30 kakobrekla :p
18:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1161 BTC [+] {2}
18:31 Vexual 100 btc?
18:32 kakobrekla a week
18:32 kakobrekla :D
18:32 ThickAsThieves "Making conversation at Thanksgiving can be hard, but apparently it's especially hard if you're an employee of the National Security Agency. So the agency has stepped in to solve the problem, issuing this list of approved talking points for fending off hostile relatives"
18:32 ThickAsThieves http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/12/02/nsa-sent-home-talking-points-for-employees-to-use-in-conversations-with-family-friends-during-holidays/
18:32 ozbot NSA Sent Home Talking Points for Employees to Use in Conversations with Family & Friends During Holi
18:33 ThickAsThieves (1) NSA’s mission is of great value to the Nation”; (2) NSA performs its mission the right way—lawful, compliant and in a way that protects civil liberties and privacy; (3) NSA performs its mission exceptionally well. We strive to be the best that we can be, because that’s what America requires as part of its defense in a dangerous world; (4) The people who work for NSA are
18:33 ThickAsThieves loyal Americans with expert skills who make sacrifices to help protect the freedoms we all cherish; (5) NSA is committed to increased transparency, public dialog and faithful implementation of any changes required by our overseers. (No emphasis added. Underlines appear in the document.)
18:34 ThickAsThieves delusionists
18:34 Vexual snowden didnt get that memo
18:36 thestringpuller some of the stuff mircea_popescu says is like listening to the buddha speak lol
18:36 thestringpuller kakobrekla: why u no hustle hard?
18:36 thestringpuller oh yea
18:36 thestringpuller you a big meanie
18:37 mircea_popescu lol this is nsa crap so soviet oy vey.
18:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00340045 = 0.1326 BTC [-] {2}
18:38 thestringpuller except america isn't at all socialist in any way
18:38 thestringpuller ?*
18:40 ThickAsThieves i asked a black guy if he was related to a famous black guy that he looks very similar to, his response "defining features don't equal relation at least not typically" is he a grump, or did i cross some kinda they-all-look-the-same line?
18:44 dub was the similarity in his big lips/wide node/sloping forehead/big penis?
18:44 dub s/node/nose
18:45 dub if so, you racis
18:45 asciilifeform countdown to when they start fitting employees with Columbian collars...?
18:45 ThickAsThieves the dude looks just like Frank Faison from the Wire
18:45 ThickAsThieves pretty distinctive looking black dude
18:47 kakobrekla thestringpuller what do ya mean?
18:48 thestringpuller i just trollin' i should stop.
18:48 truffles TAT yea but u think they all look a like
18:49 thestringpuller kakobrekla: you work behind the scenes i guess
18:49 thestringpuller making sure the gears turn
18:49 ThickAsThieves at least 2 of em look alike, s'all i'm syain
18:50 kakobrekla i just grease the assbot.
18:50 truffles its still amazing?
18:50 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
18:51 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ssi3r-MoJM
18:51 ozbot Rake - S1E8 Tax Charges clip - YouTube
18:54 truffles 2nd clip of shocker ending Vexual!
18:55 mircea_popescu i wonder what happens come 2016 when some republican gets elected us president if obama announces he "won't enforce" the new presidency.
18:56 ThickAsThieves http://news.yahoo.com/photos/genetic-portraits-how-much-do-you-and-your-family-members-really-look-alike-slideshow/
18:56 ozbot Genetic portraits: How much do you and your family members really look alike?
18:56 truffles are u gonna have a moment`?
18:57 dub motherfuckers be line steppin
18:57 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: same thing that will happen if kermit the frog clamps his teeth around the hand inside his arse and drags it out.
18:57 mircea_popescu lol
18:58 truffles TAT thats freaky
19:01 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that kinda reminds me of the one time i got a buncha romanian blogger's faces and symmetrized them
19:01 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/simetrie-online/
19:01 ozbot Simetrie online pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
19:02 Vexual That kinda reminds me of winmorph 1.0
19:03 ThickAsThieves i like this stuff
19:04 mircea_popescu http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/sM5v5UDTc40zX8mb_uGHCA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY3MjtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz02NzI-/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2013-08-13/797f86ae-ff44-4f66-b0b8-f2d44a7f4b70_Catherine-Ve-ronique.jpg
19:04 turbo_ac100_ ah cool oglaf on trilema!
19:04 mircea_popescu freakiest chick ever.
19:04 mircea_popescu turbo_ac100_ im a huge fan.
19:04 turbo_ac100_ rightfully so!
19:06 turbo_ac100_ rightly so... f'in english!
19:07 truffles related story, waking up one day with 10-centimeter tumor where u cant sleep ..
19:07 deadweasel that picture hurts my brain mircea_popescu
19:07 mircea_popescu deadweasel she wants to blind date you.
19:07 mircea_popescu you date her, you go blind.
19:08 Vexual http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-face-wtf-morph-548820.gif
19:08 deadweasel she's going to have to.
19:08 truffles cuz u only date 10's?
19:09 deadweasel as of friday, yes.
19:09 truffles haha gl
19:10 deadweasel any of you eastern europeans been treated with Bacteriophage?
19:11 mircea_popescu it's quite rare deadweasel.
19:11 Vexual the 10 got boils?
19:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.10500004 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
19:13 truffles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzdwfwuVWUU well done id say
19:13 ozbot Bacteriophage animation - YouTube
19:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.112249 = 0.2245 BTC [+] {2}
19:16 truffles http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pancreatic-cancer-risk-increases-with-every-2-strips-of-bacon-you-eat-study/ oh my
19:16 ozbot Pancreatic cancer risk increases with every 2 strips of bacon you eat: Study - CBS News
19:17 Duffer1_ nooooOOOOO :(
19:18 truffles study 2012, conditions mightve changed
19:18 Vexual pancreatic cancer risk increases with every two steps you take
19:18 truffles i was just looking if there was a non scanner way to tell if uve got cancer..
19:19 Duffer1_ trained dog for certain cancers
19:19 truffles Jack Andraka i know is working on some test strips..
19:20 truffles but im not likely to have those he's testing ..
19:20 dub isnt there a recent genetic breakthrough that we are the result of a monkey fucking a pig
19:20 Vexual cancer isn't much of a problem until you're dead, then it's less of a problem
19:21 dub we don't eat a lot of monkey, perhaps the jews are right
19:21 truffles 0.o
19:21 ThickAsThieves heh
19:23 mircea_popescu dub i dunno but i've seen this new thanksgiving nonsense where they cut a turkey and a pigglet and put the halves together
19:25 ThickAsThieves http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2515969/Humans-evolved-female-chimpanzee-mated-pig-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html
19:25 ozbot 'Humans evolved after a female chimpanzee mated with a pig': Extraordinary claim made by American ge
19:25 ThickAsThieves the male was the pig!
19:25 ThickAsThieves not expected
19:26 mircea_popescu what's this, lysenko ?
19:26 Vexual divergent evolution is so 2012
19:26 truffles pig for the white, chimp for the black, makes sense
19:28 ThickAsThieves is this theory not testable?
19:28 ThickAsThieves or have pigs and mokeys evolved too much
19:30 Vexual theres not enough fossil record to reverse engineer our evolution
19:31 Vexual and one would expect to see similar hybridisations in lower animals before putting that forward
19:32 truffles maybe its a publish or perish kinda thing ya know
19:32 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you could use your bitcoin fortune to endow a monkey pigfucking farm
19:34 Vexual maybe its a crackpipe kinda thing
19:36 ThickAsThieves maybe Jeff Bezos would buy my farm
19:36 ThickAsThieves so which side of the brain is monkey/pig?
19:36 ThickAsThieves http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/12/02/248089436/the-truth-about-the-left-brain-right-brain-relationship
19:36 ozbot The Truth About The Left Brain / Right Brain Relationship : 13.7: Cosmos And Culture : NPR
19:36 Vexual you could get some elephants and dolphins and see if you get dugongs
19:36 ThickAsThieves It makes sense to have specialized brain regions, just as it makes sense to have divisions of labor in other areas of life. But why have specialized hemispheres?
19:36 ThickAsThieves cuz pigs!
19:36 mircea_popescu get hipos and dolphins
19:36 mircea_popescu they're practically the same lineage.
19:37 ThickAsThieves maybe apes and boars, for bigger humans
19:37 ThickAsThieves or king kongs!
19:38 mircea_popescu im sure pig meant boar hog.
19:38 mircea_popescu they didn't have basna back then
19:38 Vexual maybe start with something like a coral
19:39 ThickAsThieves well they attribute our smooth skin to the pig
19:39 ThickAsThieves and arent boars hairy?
19:39 truffles dailymail though
19:39 ThickAsThieves arent all pigs hairy?
19:39 mircea_popescu nah
19:40 mircea_popescu see mangalitsa
19:41 ThickAsThieves no wonder it had to rape a monkey to get laid
19:42 truffles if this theory were true would ur mind be blown
19:43 ThickAsThieves no
19:43 Vexual yes
19:43 ThickAsThieves i dont care at all
19:43 truffles u care
19:43 truffles this is crazy stuff!
19:43 ThickAsThieves if some pig humped some monkey ages ago?
19:43 ThickAsThieves nah
19:44 mircea_popescu it's patent nonsense anyway. suines and hominides aren't sexuyally compatible.
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.33987745 = 5.7779 BTC [+] {4}
19:45 truffles dubs his theory the 'Monkey-F******-A-Pig hypothesis'
19:45 truffles hmm
19:46 kakobrekla its either monkey-pig or monkey-monkey
19:46 kakobrekla no difference basically
19:47 kakobrekla ok ok, pig-pig also.
19:48 truffles if no holes in science, these theories wouldnt come to light
19:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34698733 = 1.041 BTC [+] {2}
19:48 deadweasel if no holes in people. people wouldn't come about.
19:48 truffles haha
19:49 deadweasel https://ghostbin.com/paste/oweqm
19:49 ozbot oweqm - Ghostbin
19:49 deadweasel this is me trying to understand what might be a good idea.
19:50 Vexual http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=202_1232911143
19:50 ozbot LiveLeak.com - Drunk Wildlife
19:50 truffles whats with the blockchain storage..
19:50 truffles i hear there's child porn snips in it..
19:51 truffles this is something the bitcoin foundation should take care of
19:52 deadweasel truffles, please don't speak so much
19:52 truffles :(
19:52 deadweasel or think first, either way
19:52 truffles well its not "technically" done but still
19:54 mircea_popescu truffles you can add some child porn to the blockchain yourself.
19:55 truffles im saying it should be removed..
19:55 kakobrekla more interesting would be if we can find an algo that would decrpyt the moons surface to some CP pix or vid
19:56 kakobrekla BAN THE MOON!
19:57 ThickAsThieves ban the internet
19:57 ThickAsThieves look at all the damage its done
19:57 mircea_popescu well at least, if we're contemplating the task of censoring the blockchain, i would say the bitcoin foundation is a well chosen agent.
19:58 truffles only extreme cases
19:58 mircea_popescu rarely a more insurmountable task was met by a less apt entity.
19:58 Duffer1_ hehe
19:58 mircea_popescu it's like (bfl making asics) ^ of itself
19:58 mircea_popescu ;;calc (bfl making asics) ** (bfl making asics)
19:58 gribble Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
19:58 Vexual youve never seen me bicycle home from the pub
19:59 asciilifeform let's censor the digits of pi, while we're at it.
19:59 kakobrekla only if its in CP
20:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform here's a theorem : for any jpg representation of a six year old riding a tumescent pig penis,
20:00 mircea_popescu there exists a natural number indicating the first pi decimal at which that jpg representation can be found
20:00 asciilifeform simon plouffe proved already.
20:00 mircea_popescu whole and unabridged
20:00 mircea_popescu ayup.
20:00 kakobrekla heh
20:02 asciilifeform only problem is that said offset is typically much longer than the payload. but this may not be a problem for this use case.
20:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i vaguely recall that as long as the payload is finite, so is the offset
20:02 mircea_popescu but i don't remember who proved that one
20:02 asciilifeform here's the fun part
20:02 asciilifeform not part of the proof, afaik
20:03 asciilifeform if you can put up with lossiness, you make the search considerably easier.
20:03 mircea_popescu a good point
20:03 asciilifeform the offset where the digits, using some straightforward bitmap view, can be Roscharched into the pic, is probably findable.
20:04 mircea_popescu i change to "a recognisable depiction"
20:04 asciilifeform 'pi pr0n search service.'
20:04 asciilifeform who needs mersenne primes!
20:04 mircea_popescu this should be a xkcd
20:04 mircea_popescu "what are you doing all by yourself in the dark ?!"
20:05 mircea_popescu "scanning the pi decimals for lez prons"
20:07 mircea_popescu btw, butthurt re the bbp : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.math.symbolic/a3kVKVYJhgc
20:07 kakobrekla just scan the moon with a qr gun until you get a small boy with a penis
20:08 kakobrekla and with that line ill be leaving
20:08 kakobrekla nite
20:08 deadweasel nite
20:10 truffles so much downside to drinking alcohol
20:11 truffles this "idea" so advance..
20:13 truffles things that are easier to keep track of are hmmm
20:13 Vexual just 22/7 and use your imagination
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00343761 = 0.1306 BTC [+] {4}
20:19 mircea_popescu http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/02/article-2517058-19CA120700000578-85_970x1361.jpg
20:19 mircea_popescu pig theory proven
20:22 asciilifeform unrelated: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/11/the-fda-vs-personal-genetic-testing.html
20:31 dub <ThickAsThieves> is this theory not testable?
20:31 dub I would hope somewhere someone is trying to prove it by mating pigs and monkeys
20:32 mircea_popescu and pandas.
20:32 dub mate all the things
20:34 Duffer1_ https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=8639.0
20:34 Duffer1_ Ciphertrade
20:35 BingoBoingo Can an S.PigFuckingaMonkeyFuckingaPanda be far away? I might have to see if Cryptostocks will list it...
20:35 asciilifeform notably missing is: slavecoin.
20:36 truffles Dr McCarthy thinks "the human race is a very good thing" so he may be wrong on others
20:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so what was the response, "fuck you, we'll sell fior bitcoin " ?
20:39 asciilifeform '23' being a u.s. corp, the response will probably be: doggy submission. followed by death.
20:40 truffles Primecoin sounds nice
20:40 mircea_popescu "We have received the warning letter from the Food and Drug Administration. We recognize that we have not met the FDA’s expectations regarding timeline and communication regarding our submission. Our relationship with the FDA is extremely important to us and we are committed to fully engaging with them to address their concerns."
20:40 mircea_popescu meh. grow some backbone, ye land of the free ppls!
20:40 BingoBoingo asciilifeform mircea_popescu: Well it is run by on of the Googler's spouses so I imagine it will meet the same fate as so many google related projects...
20:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: word is that mr. B has a new fucktoy
20:41 asciilifeform and so 23 has lost its 'roof'.
20:41 asciilifeform hence this turn of events.
20:43 mircea_popescu "we have received large amounts of unsolicited mailings from various poseurs. sorting through all this crap takes time which would be better used otherwise. we are uninterested in the volunteered opinions of self-styled authorities, we intend to retain experts for answering any questions we may need answered and ingore anything else"
20:43 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, I would have imagined it would just get ignored into oblivion. Then again unlike actually Google products they have an actual revenue stream in the form of recurring billing to maintain access to your results.
20:44 nubbins` http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Roll-of-50-Casascius-2012-5-BTC-Blank-coins-Unfunded-Roll-your-own-/261345344416?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3cd9657ba0&_uhb=1
20:44 ozbot Roll OF 50 Casascius 2012 5 BTC Blank Coins Unfunded Roll Your OWN | eBay
20:44 asciilifeform in other news, u.s. corps wake up to the fact that model choppers can deliver packages: http://www.amazon.com/b?ref_=tsm_1_tw_s_amzn_mx3eqp&node=8037720011
20:44 nubbins` ^ sweet, they come with their own private keys and addresses so you don't need to worry about generating your own
20:44 asciilifeform but hung up on red tape.
20:44 nubbins` i'd get food delivered by drone, no sweat
20:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform remember the old laser-in-eye terrorism post ?
20:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.0007851 = 4.7106 BTC [-] {2}
20:45 mircea_popescu seems that's not exactly how it works out. market favours the "meth from the sky" approach
20:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sure. down the chimney.
20:45 mircea_popescu by the time the average city has > 100k of these in air at any given time
20:45 Vexual im already prining the chimney qr codes
20:45 mircea_popescu it'll be a riot to keep pumping the "nsa is doing an excellent job tracking everything!!1"
20:47 asciilifeform of course, 'dead drop' solves the SR delivery problem, but it isn't techno-sexy
20:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you are telling me that http://assets.makers.com/maker/Anne_Wojcicki_IMG_5679_A.jpg was dsomeone's fuck toy ?!
20:47 mircea_popescu or did you mean fuckboy
20:48 asciilifeform was...
20:48 mircea_popescu get out of here.
20:48 Vexual you get a portion of the btc delivery fee when you `obtain` and maintain a mesh drone
20:48 mircea_popescu when, before google listed ?!
20:50 asciilifeform the choppers are easy to build, one fellow i know cobbled together a classic design that lifts several full soda cans.
20:50 asciilifeform putters along for 1/2 hr. or so.
20:50 asciilifeform what changed? cheap 3-axis gyros.
20:51 Vexual from phones
20:51 BingoBoingo Maybe someone will scale up this idea to fire paintballs at any lenses mounted on drones http://trilema.com/2013/since-you-boys-are-printing-tanks-now/
20:51 mircea_popescu the cost per lb hour of chopper should be in the 5 to 10 cents range, once you get it mass produced.
20:51 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo usg drone fighting rc planes is definitely the thing of the future.
20:51 mircea_popescu pewpewpew
20:52 Vexual 30 minutes, or next time it's not windy
20:52 asciilifeform the pill for usg drones: sail right into the tailpipe.
20:52 asciilifeform no need for bullet
20:52 mircea_popescu (actually, i wonder what a rc plane equiped with 4 ounces of acetone and a sparker would do to a drone carrying a missile)
20:53 Vexual take off the paint?
20:53 asciilifeform magnet, thermite.
20:53 Vexual im pretty sure anyone who might actually want to down a drone would have better explosives
20:54 Vexual and an rc plane is relly just another drone
20:54 asciilifeform the famous (u.s.) drones are very much tooled for unarmed targets that can't afford so much as a binocular.
20:55 Vexual lot of good binoculars are going to do
20:55 asciilifeform no defenses, to speak of, no maneuvering ability.
20:55 BingoBoingo Vexual: thermite is simple and avoids all of the pretense concerning explosives. That the ingredients are essentially rust and aluminum powder or filings means preventing its production is impossible.
20:55 asciilifeform in the immortal words of an airplane designer: what can two machines do that no one, no matter how costly, cannot?
20:56 asciilifeform be in two places.
20:56 asciilifeform now try 1000 places...
20:56 mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/S-100-OE-VXX.jpg
20:56 mircea_popescu i dunno... this thing doesn;'t look like a little flame throwing would take its paint off
20:56 mircea_popescu it looks more like the end for gracie.
20:57 asciilifeform scale?
20:57 mircea_popescu large unprotected air intake
20:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3624 @ 0.00078401 = 2.8413 BTC [-] {2}
20:57 Vexual honey! did you order something from amazBOOM!
20:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform 3m long, 100kgs
20:57 mircea_popescu its the S-100 model modified
20:58 mircea_popescu http://www.schiebel.net/
20:58 ozbot Home - Schiebel
20:59 asciilifeform death from the air would be a little scarier if they so much as managed to get gps spoofing off the table.
20:59 Vexual u can gps upside down with lasers
20:59 asciilifeform i'd like to see what one of these does near... an ordinary spark gap.
21:00 Vexual do they make a cargo model?
21:01 asciilifeform Vexual: that's nearly an adult chopper, not comparable to the miniatures at all.
21:06 Vexual yeah, fly em outta peru
21:06 Vexual alibaba had some long range winged drones last year
21:06 Vexual no longer
21:07 asciilifeform Vexual: your local toy store still has them.
21:07 Vexual big fuckers
21:07 asciilifeform just needs a little extra sweat.
21:10 dub gps spoofing is wild
21:10 dub supposed to be pretty easy
21:10 asciilifeform dub: why perforate enemy, take him home as a pet.
21:11 dub rf hardening would be another question
21:11 asciilifeform dub: the notion of rf-hardening a widget that includes a large antenna is a curious one.
21:12 dub presumably you would harden in the defensive direction (down) while leaving a channel on the harder to target side (up)
21:13 Vexual its not actually large though is it
21:13 asciilifeform dub: the hypothetical was: a toystore chopper limpets on to the larger one. what ought to be in the former.
21:14 mircea_popescu acetone im telling you.
21:15 asciilifeform one fun possibility: toy turns its rotors 90 deg., they turn into... windmill generators.
21:15 asciilifeform for the spark gap...
21:16 dub cheaper yet, a parachute
21:16 Vexual a magnet and a parachute
21:16 asciilifeform need an uncommonly solid grip, for a drogue chute.
21:17 dub of course they can probably mitigate it when they realise telemetry is not lining up wth flight plan
21:17 asciilifeform flight plan, from the moment of limpeting, should be 'vertical.'
21:18 dub not if for a rotating wing
21:18 dub it'll just limp a bit
21:18 Vexual aluminium magnets are expensive too
21:18 asciilifeform dub: for rotating wing, payload is: piano wire.
21:18 dub hard to deploy right
21:18 Vexual a long one
21:18 dub thermite wins anyway
21:19 asciilifeform no magnets for Al. nail gun.
21:19 Vexual better make that 1st shot count
21:19 dub if you're aiming a gun make it an rf gun
21:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually, horse hair
21:19 asciilifeform for choppers, fly two toys, trailing piano wire between.
21:20 dub otherwise the limpet needs to aquire taret and track
21:20 mircea_popescu give it a slow death
21:20 Vexual the theif could trail the piano wire in its path and hope for the tangle
21:20 asciilifeform fishing line may even work, considering what will happen when the rotor winds it up.
21:21 mircea_popescu yup
21:21 asciilifeform (suggested experiment: two tennis balls, fishing line, an old-style uncaged metal fan, an open field.)
21:21 mircea_popescu usualyl in this sort of situation flexible > rigid
21:21 dub I think you're going to need to get real lucky to tangle a cord in the prop
21:21 dub need to attack from above basically
21:21 mircea_popescu dub not if your fishing wire is part of a net.
21:22 Vexual is that a little raddome on the top of tail?
21:22 asciilifeform Vexual: sat uplink
21:22 Vexual halfway down the tail
21:23 Vexual or is that for shaft lube?
21:23 asciilifeform before you know it, we're back to 1930s state of the art: barrage balloon.
21:23 Vexual it can climb with better conmtrol than descend
21:24 asciilifeform usg drone is built for specific work: plug unarmed man, in open field, by surprise.
21:24 asciilifeform to expect that it will be sent to do some other job is odd.
21:24 asciilifeform a different machine is called for, and will appear.
21:27 asciilifeform rf is a more interesting countermeasure than pyrotechnics, because enemy machines can travel by land, sea, hell, sewer line, and not only by air.
21:27 asciilifeform solve the general case.
21:28 Vexual sewer drone?
21:29 asciilifeform when the bureaucrats say 'asymmetric war' and piss their pants, they aren't specifically thinking of bedouins with ak
21:29 diametric ah discussing the news about amazons drone delivery publicity stunt?
21:29 asciilifeform but rather, anyone who can out-think the idiots.
21:30 mircea_popescu where the idiots are themselves.
21:30 asciilifeform naturally
21:30 mircea_popescu "this war is asymetric in that the enemy chooses to not make the same exact mistakes we do"
21:30 Vexual never heard of him
21:30 mircea_popescu in this sense the us rebellion was asymmetric as seen from king george's palace.
21:31 asciilifeform asymmetric: 'we are rich, they - poor, they oughta roll over and die fair and square.'
21:31 mircea_popescu lol
21:31 mircea_popescu pretty much.
21:32 Vexual war? what war?
21:32 asciilifeform Vexual: 'you may not be interested in war, but war is quite interested in you.'
21:32 Vexual ALL the money?
21:33 Vexual is that one of yours ascii?
21:33 asciilifeform nope.
21:34 asciilifeform trotsky!
21:34 Vexual never heard of him
21:34 asciilifeform btw, at the current max range of toy drone, one could achieve very similar results with: catapult.
21:35 Vexual or a tennis ball
21:35 asciilifeform (for product delivery, of things that don't mind being thrown)
21:35 asciilifeform like most SR cargo.
21:35 Vexual or an avalon
21:35 diametric I really doubt that will ever come to fruition. It's just publicity. There's no way their attorneys are going to sign off on something thats going to have that much liability.
21:36 asciilifeform diametric: it will be done. by people who don't care for legalities.
21:36 diametric The potential damage to property and lives will be way to high. Anything strong enough to carry 5 pound packages is strong enough to kill someone.
21:36 diametric asciilifeform: yeah
21:36 diametric I still have faint scars from when I was playing with that one larger multirotor.
21:37 asciilifeform everybody who builds toy choppers has the characteristic scars.
21:37 diametric Or worse, there
21:37 diametric There have been several deaths just this last year from them
21:37 asciilifeform 'here comes the candle, to light you to bed. here comes the chopper, to chop off your head.'
21:38 Vexual i lost one, fled immediately
21:39 asciilifeform in the unlikely event of the 'legit' vendors using choppers, they'll go for enclosed airscrews. 'ufo' shape.
21:39 Vexual remeber this bit of cgi genius?
21:40 asciilifeform a modern Diogenes will die comically, 'ipad' crate falling on his head instead of turtle.
21:40 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU
21:40 ozbot Prototype Quadrotor with Machine Gun - YouTube
21:40 asciilifeform Vexual: this was widely believed, because they don't teach newton's 3rd law any more...
21:41 mike_c ;;seen BingoBoingo
21:41 gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 46 minutes and 28 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> Vexual: thermite is simple and avoids all of the pretense concerning explosives. That the ingredients are essentially rust and aluminum powder or filings means preventing its production is impossible.
21:42 BingoBoingo I'm here mike_c
21:42 mike_c glad to see the gpg section! very useful stuff.
21:43 mike_c i have recommended it to several people
21:44 BingoBoingo Thanks mike_c
21:44 mircea_popescu speaking of the diogene,
21:44 mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=woman+spear+piss&complete=0&source=lnms&tbm=isch
21:46 Vexual never heard of him
21:49 KRS|gotyawallet Gribble: magnesium in thermite too i think
21:51 diametric KRS|gotyawallet: its used to ignite thermite
21:57 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCnGuvLax3Y
21:57 ozbot GARNETT SILK I AM VEX - YouTube
21:58 Vexual wrap the mag around a sparkler and flee
21:59 Vexual factory stuff has mag and oxidised al
21:59 Vexual and anti caking agent
22:00 asciilifeform Vexual: and some taggants, likely, for 'smartasses'
22:03 Vexual perhaps i was thinking of my multivitamin
22:08 nubbins` re: drone copters
22:08 nubbins` you can thank nintendo for cheap gyro sensors
22:09 Vexual i thought that was pressure sensors?
22:09 thestringpuller nubbins`: you mean apple
22:09 thestringpuller nubbins` nubbins` nubbins`
22:09 thestringpuller nub wub nubby dubby dub nubbins`
22:09 nubbins` consider that a wii motion plus attachment fits in a child's hand, costs $25, and can track acceleration and movement along 3 axes
22:09 nubbins` and communicates via serial
22:09 thestringpuller wii motion plus you mean
22:09 nubbins` nod
22:09 Vexual i think iphone had it b4 wiimote
22:09 nubbins` ah, maybe
22:10 nubbins` but wiimore is an OTS solution
22:10 nubbins` *wiimote
22:10 nubbins` seriously, a motionplus and an arduino sets you back maybe $50-60
22:10 nubbins` and it's more than enough to keep a quadcopter in the air
22:10 Vexual nintendo were the first to mass produce such accurate pressure sensores as in thw wiifit board
22:11 nubbins` yeah, mass production is key
22:11 nubbins` 3-axis gyros were around too
22:11 nubbins` nintendo brought the economy of scale
22:11 Vexual really?
22:11 Vexual i always thought it was the other way around
22:12 nubbins` ah, hm
22:13 nubbins` i am kind of just making this up
22:13 Vexual you're probably right nintendo>smartphone>gyrocopter
22:13 nubbins` but that's what it seemed like in my head
22:13 nubbins` anyway, there are tons of videos of people using wiimotes and nunchuks to control robots
22:15 Vexual no, its the phone
22:15 nubbins` you can probably just get gyro arduino shields for cheaper than a wiimote now anyway
22:17 Vexual wiimotes must cost a bit, they dont even give you one with a u
22:17 nubbins` that's because they give you a $250 controller with your u
22:17 nubbins` and everyone with a u has an original wii ;D
22:17 nubbins` altho i agree it's pretty stingy
22:17 Vexual yeah, so return customers only
22:17 Vexual and you cant sell your wii with no controllers
22:18 nubbins` heh, nope
22:18 nubbins` great if you have a wii and your buddy has a u, tho
22:18 nubbins` 5-player games
22:18 nubbins` some of the minigames in wii u party or w/e the bundled game is called are pretty cool
22:20 Vexual i was looking forward to watchdogs on u sooner
22:21 Vexual fuck the multiplayer and take my money
22:22 thestringpuller Vexual you and everyone else in the gaming world.
22:22 Vexual and wheres zelda?
22:23 Vexual i want giant spiders!
22:24 nubbins` giant spiders D:
22:24 nubbins` would rather giant sliders
22:25 nubbins` aka regular-sized hamburgers
22:26 Vexual i made fist burritos and got food poisoning
22:26 Vexual you never siad wash your knuckes
22:26 nubbins` turns out the friction from your strikes wasn't enough to denature the proteins?
22:27 Vexual maybe that was it
22:27 nubbins` try soaking your fists in lemon juice first.
22:28 Vexual and punch harder?
22:29 nubbins` nod
22:29 nubbins` always
22:29 Vexual id send you the log, but it's not really a log
22:31 Vexual smarthouse my arse
22:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3926 @ 0.00078401 = 3.078 BTC [-] {2}
22:33 Vexual im putting wiifit sensors under my toilets
22:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00343998 = 0.1754 BTC [+] {2}
22:34 Vexual check your guests for scoliosis
22:35 Vexual and intestinal fortitude
22:39 Vexual try that with an xbox, you'd be arrested
22:45 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glPTmDWDzLw
22:45 ozbot Eek A Mouse - Schizophrenic.MP4 - YouTube
22:50 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxjdg_D5YQY
22:50 ozbot Wiley - Wearing My Rolex (Official Music Video) - YouTube
22:53 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTF7T1Nw5OU
22:53 ozbot SuperHeavy - Miracle Worker - YouTube
22:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 4251 @ 0.00040766 = 1.733 BTC [+] {5}
22:58 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEPTlhBmwRg 7
22:58 ozbot Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera - YouTube
23:03 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIJmciN8mo 62
23:03 ozbot Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube
23:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.00078278 = 3.3065 BTC [-]
23:07 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwblaKmyVw 889
23:07 ozbot Miley Cyrus - The Backyard Sessions - "Jolene" - YouTube
23:09 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg3799078#msg3799078
23:09 ozbot [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
23:09 mircea_popescu this is pretty funny, guy now wants to work for me, admits he couldn't do as good a job as thje girl.
23:09 mircea_popescu fascinating capitalism
23:10 asciilifeform prescribe: seppuku?
23:10 Vexual let him sweep the floor with no pay
23:10 asciilifeform seems like it was invented for such occasions.
23:10 mircea_popescu no see, this is the main reason i like the capitalism-democracy combo : i don't have to do anything.
23:11 mircea_popescu if you live in some sort of more or less republican tyrany it is incumbent upon you to take in all the idiots.
23:11 Vexual thats not the most funny outcome
23:11 mircea_popescu but if you live in the heartless-est system ever invented, you can just nod and ignore.
23:12 Vexual gentlemen would have another bet
23:12 asciilifeform why ignore when you can laugh.
23:12 KRS|gotyawallet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdV-_FP079A
23:12 ozbot Driicky Graham "Snapbacks & Tattoos" - YouTube
23:12 mircea_popescu well yeah, but i meant from his perspective. obviously from my perspective i'm laughing
23:13 Vexual im sure it says somewhere breaking any rule voids any bet
23:13 Vexual double or nothing would be at least twice as funny
23:13 mircea_popescu yet you know, in imperial japan or soviet russia or republican rome it is not acceptable for some guy to go "i have no skills master but i would like to work" and he not be taken in, trained and worked.
23:14 mircea_popescu in a democracy it's quite natural.
23:14 mircea_popescu i don't know of any system where labour capital has a lesser value.
23:14 Vexual we all must work within a framework
23:15 Vexual if you bump your head on the scaffold of a construction site, you havent much hoipoe
23:15 mircea_popescu hoi poloi ?
23:15 Vexual hoi
23:15 asciilifeform well in 'democracy' a polizei will bite you on the arse if you employ the unskilled fellow for the wage he's worth.
23:16 Vexual i foirgot to puit ino moi doil foirm
23:16 mircea_popescu exactly. it's actually illegal in the democracy to improve the capital value of labour.
23:16 mircea_popescu the entire point of the whole thing is to make it so people are worthless and stay worthless.
23:16 Vexual depends how its done mp
23:17 KRS|gotyawallet mircea_popescu: do you have an example of that?
23:17 mircea_popescu Vexual yeah, inasmuch as it's done to exhaust the person without any benefit then it's acceptable.
23:17 mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet well yes, the entire discussion started with an example.
23:19 Vexual australia is an interesting case
23:19 KRS|gotyawallet whre its illegal in a democracy to improve the capital value of labour? You mean pay a man more than a woman for certain types of jobs?
23:19 Vexual apprently all our medical records were dutifully compiled into the prism database
23:20 Vexual but theres a few unions that will dissappear a politician
23:20 mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet no, i mean put them in a position where their abilities and knowledge actually improve so that they are objectively worth more.
23:20 KRS|gotyawallet ok i see
23:21 KRS|gotyawallet thanks i didnt understand
23:21 mircea_popescu the process through which the antique adolescens solidified into vir, ie, a man, is the typical increase in value. it includes such experience as killing others, and being responsible for the self in new situations and so on.
23:22 mircea_popescu similarly, but more politely, the process through which the medieval youth moved from unskilled apprentice to skilled journeyman to actual craftsman on his own is similar
23:23 mircea_popescu these all include two things : adversative education, which is to say education done forcibly, without bothering with the consent of the educated, and political power. neither exist in a democracy, thus reducing the youth to this situation of neoteny.
23:23 Vexual i was on my mobile phone doing deals at the back in 94
23:24 Vexual ill shut the flip when im good and ready bitch
23:25 Vexual were about 5-10 years off the real info revolution
23:26 KRS|gotyawallet On one hand we are talking about value, as it applies to labour which probably applies better to the context of capitalism and on the other hand we're applying that toward a democracy which doesnt necessarily recognize value, but rather mob rule.
23:28 Vexual shits gonna get monkeypig
23:28 mircea_popescu you can't escape value as such. it's there whether your current viewpoint hides it or not.
23:28 Vexual hides what?
23:29 mircea_popescu http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/12/millennial_narcissism_helicopter_parents_are_college_students_bigger_problem.html < take that as a convenient example.
23:29 ozbot Millennial narcissism: Helicopter parents are college students’ bigger problem.
23:29 mircea_popescu "amy" is not exactly tradeable for one random individual. she's worth less than the average of 7 billion, which is already pretty damning.
23:30 mircea_popescu in fact she may well be worth zero. that's an achievement, for a live human.
23:30 Vexual and a phd in some bullshit noone wants to read flags you as a kneeler
23:30 asciilifeform nobody is worth zero, in the uranium mines of vorkuta.
23:30 KRS|gotyawallet worth zero to the society that supports her
23:30 KRS|gotyawallet haha asciilifeform
23:31 asciilifeform the fellows who stuffed their gloves with detcord and blew, well, you don't need hands to tramp the dirt
23:31 asciilifeform nobody's a zero, everyone a hero there.
23:32 KRS|gotyawallet As is everyone who stuffs their bags with blow.
23:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i doubt.
23:32 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htjnT_bq6Rw
23:32 ozbot angela pamela wiya launch - YouTube
23:33 mircea_popescu but this is the very point at hand : in the republican tyrani around vorkuta she might be discovered as somewhat valuable. in her hometown @ democracy, she's exactly zero.
23:33 Vexual tending
23:33 mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet no, worth zero intrinsically.
23:33 KRS|gotyawallet right
23:33 KRS|gotyawallet Vexual: they speak funny there.
23:34 Vexual thats my country brother
23:34 KRS|gotyawallet I was just having trouble understanding the worth of labour as it applies to democracy, which is more suited for a discussion about capitalism.
23:35 KRS|gotyawallet Vexual this is a serious issue
23:35 Vexual sickness country
23:36 Vexual they dont camp there for more than a night, let alone dig the shit up
23:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.34991617 = 1.7496 BTC [+] {5}
23:40 Vexual labour is a free market, if you've got skills or whathaveyou, ask the price
23:41 Vexual if you get hungry or borded or whatever, drop your price
23:42 Vexual ask mp, he lived in communist romania, i imagine it wasnt much different
23:42 KRS|gotyawallet i have a mexican i pay $100 for a day of labour on my property..usually twice a month..he normally makes $80 and works longer in on the farms picking vegetables.
23:42 KRS|gotyawallet Companies pay him much less because he's an undocumented worker.
23:42 Vexual i think capitalism is pretty hard wired into humans
23:42 Vexual he is the company fuckwit
23:43 KRS|gotyawallet i pay him moar because he works hard, is reliable and very trustworthy..i pay him his equivallent rate as a documented worker.
23:43 Vexual its a one man fuckin union
23:43 KRS|gotyawallet he CAN'T get moar wage here because he's illegally in our country.
23:44 KRS|gotyawallet In return he works like two men when I only have to pay one.
23:44 Vexual youre thinking manhours, where its output you want
23:44 KRS|gotyawallet comparitavely its nothing to me, i easily drink twice as much as I pay him when I go to the strip club on the weekends to see tits.
23:45 Duffer1_ drink less
23:45 Duffer1_ pay more
23:45 KRS|gotyawallet fuck off
23:45 KRS|gotyawallet :P
23:45 Duffer1_ :P
23:45 Vexual .com
23:47 mircea_popescu KRS|gotyawallet so basically you're paying him more because he's worth it.
23:47 Vexual id dumb it down another shade, but you know
23:48 mircea_popescu the democratic system however ensures that he's well penalised for that.
23:48 KRS|gotyawallet right, he does the work of two men and doesnt need to be managed
23:48 mircea_popescu unlike amy
23:48 mircea_popescu also unlike amy, he doesn't vote. he lives in a different system, which both explains him and makes sense to him.
23:49 KRS|gotyawallet he lives in a VERY different system although he doesn't even live that far away from where i do
23:49 mircea_popescu well that's basically my point. in his system, every person is valuable, and because oif that you end up with hard working people who aren't depressed.
23:49 mircea_popescu in amy's system you end up with amy, who has no skills and no future.
23:50 Vexual i blame amy
23:50 mircea_popescu so to speak, you brought my example yourself :)
23:50 KRS|gotyawallet ahh ok..yes.
23:51 mircea_popescu now, if amy got to spend a few years on a mexican farm among mexican people who'd put her lazy ass to work rather than ask her about her feelings
23:51 mircea_popescu she'd come back a marrigeable, useful and generally sane and adult woman.
23:51 KRS|gotyawallet maybe pregnant too.
23:51 mircea_popescu but this doesn't happen where she lives. why not ? because nobody gives a shit.
23:51 KRS|gotyawallet capitalism wouldnt let that happen..in her system is she given the necessities to survive even though she doesn't work?
23:52 Vexual you might be confusing capitalism with something else
23:52 KRS|gotyawallet how so? in a capitalist society she wouldnt be given anything, she would have to do something in order to survive ie: make herself useful
23:52 mircea_popescu no.
23:53 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNlyuWhT62w
23:53 ozbot Catch & Cook: Nimanburr (Flying Fox) - YouTube
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00079404 = 5.0819 BTC [+]
23:53 mircea_popescu the way the capitalist democracy works is that she gets the bare minimum to survive, much like a cow in one of the insalubrous farms they invented.
23:53 mircea_popescu up to her chest in shit, fed antibiotics to control the infection. everything at the bare minimum.
23:53 Duffer1_ even then it's almost not survivable
23:54 mircea_popescu nobody can be bothered to give her a good lashing and put her to work, because this is more skilled and valuable attention than she "deserves".
23:54 mircea_popescu consequently, she gets 2 hours of "therapy" and social media q.s.
23:54 Vexual oldest society in the world
23:54 asciilifeform "We shall escape the absurdity of growing a whole chicken in order to eat the breast or wing, by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium."
23:54 asciilifeform who said?
23:54 mircea_popescu and just like nobody botheres with amy i don't bother with that forum fuckwit and so the circle continues.
23:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform either lincoln or churchil
23:55 asciilifeform 2
23:55 mircea_popescu :D
23:55 KRS|gotyawallet Pray to Jesus so the forum fuckwit can be saved and find salvation.
23:56 KRS|gotyawallet LorenzoMoney heh I met him in person..cool guy.
23:56 KRS|gotyawallet Hey there LorenzoMoney
23:57 Vexual democratic capitalists, with violence
23:57 KRS|gotyawallet Vexual: its very strange that foxes fly in your country..but then again I think some folks there even eat Bats.
23:57 Vexual 40000 years, same shit, its human
23:58 KRS|gotyawallet oh
23:58 KRS|gotyawallet my
23:58 KRS|gotyawallet god
23:58 KRS|gotyawallet these are just giant bats dude..disgusting
23:58 KRS|gotyawallet Any good?
23:59 Vexual no idea
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