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00:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00079873 = 3.2748 BTC [+]
00:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00079878 = 7.6683 BTC [+] {2}
00:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00161999 = 0.81 BTC [-]
00:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00079813 = 4.1503 BTC [-]
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00:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.32899974 = 1.316 BTC [+] {3}
00:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00079769 = 12.5636 BTC [-] {3}
00:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.329 = 2.632 BTC [+]
00:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 37 @ 0.32919459 = 12.1802 BTC [+] {4}
00:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00295001 = 0.2154 BTC [-]
00:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.3293 = 2.6344 BTC [+]
00:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.3294 = 6.588 BTC [+]
00:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.32979999 = 3.298 BTC [+] {2}
00:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 183 @ 0.00161999 = 0.2965 BTC [-]
00:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.0007984 = 9.7006 BTC [+]
00:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.33 = 1.65 BTC [+] {2}
01:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 133 @ 0.00293312 = 0.3901 BTC [-] {2}
01:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 188 @ 0.0029 = 0.5452 BTC [-] {3}
01:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.0028841 = 0.124 BTC [-]
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.34389998 = 3.439 BTC [+] {6}
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00079852 = 5.2702 BTC [+] {2}
01:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18474 @ 0.00079404 = 14.6691 BTC [-] {2}
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01:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 196 @ 0.00161999 = 0.3175 BTC [-]
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02:19 KRS1 BBQ Coin crashing in Somalia!
02:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03192249 = 0.1277 BTC [+] {3}
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02:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
02:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3495 BTC [-]
02:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.341 BTC [-]
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03:12 pankkake ;;bc,xau
03:12 gribble 1 XAU = 1250.900000000000 USD = 1.11389136242 BTC
03:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3405 BTC [-]
03:17 truffles wonder why cads signs in to all the chat rooms but says nothing
03:17 truffles hmm
03:18 BingoBoingo truffles: It's how IRC usually gets used. You mostly afk, then scroll up to see what happened in the conversation.
03:19 truffles thats weird to me :D
03:19 truffles he seems like talker so i just wondered..
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03:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00079852 = 1.8765 BTC [+]
04:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3288 = 0.6576 BTC [-]
04:15 ColdHardMetal maybe. that was all quite awhile ago at this point.
04:16 ColdHardMetal misfire, sorry.
04:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00032 = 0.48 BTC [-] {3}
04:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 503 @ 0.00031745 = 0.1597 BTC [-] {2}
04:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 21 @ 0.07119523 = 1.4951 BTC [+] {3}
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04:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 24 @ 0.07316667 = 1.756 BTC [+] {3}
04:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00307999 = 0.1201 BTC [-]
04:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14425 @ 0.00079692 = 11.4956 BTC [-]
04:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8459 @ 0.00079852 = 6.7547 BTC [+]
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05:29 mircea_popescu cremation parties ?!
05:33 mircea_popescu http://www.recovery.gov/pages/textview.aspx?data=recipientHomeMap
05:33 ozbot State/Territory Totals, as Reported by Recipients
05:36 mircea_popescu this kicks ass. funds awarded, 3bn. funds disbursed, 3bn. jobs created ? 600
05:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9318 @ 0.00079312 = 7.3903 BTC [-] {3}
05:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3288 BTC [-]
05:44 firstblockchain Click "report fraud, waste and abuse" button, submit "whitehouse.gov"
05:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
05:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]
05:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.34 = 1.02 BTC [+]
06:07 KRS1 jeez
06:08 KRS1 #failprez
06:12 davout ;;later tell mircea_popescu thanks!
06:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4582 @ 0.00079221 = 3.6299 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0030896 = 0.1112 BTC [+] {3}
06:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 285 @ 0.00323553 = 0.9221 BTC [+] {4}
06:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5468 @ 0.00079802 = 4.3636 BTC [+]
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06:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00079117 = 13.8455 BTC [-]
07:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00079117 = 5.3008 BTC [-]
07:14 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
07:14 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1177.0001, Best ask: 1179.79998, Bid-ask spread: 2.79988, Last trade: 1179.8, 24 hour volume: 52851.65224718, 24 hour low: 1050.0, 24 hour high: 1242.0, 24 hour vwap: 1161.05877
07:14 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker +market coinbase
07:14 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
07:14 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker --market coinbase
07:14 gribble Coinbase BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1068.12, Best ask: 1095.77, Bid-ask spread: 27.65000, Last trade: 1080.54, 24 hour volume: None, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: None
07:24 ThickAsThieves Neo & Bee Bitcoin Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb1zZoUfMGE&feature=youtu.be
07:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 787 @ 0.00169158 = 1.3313 BTC [+] {3}
07:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.0016998 = 0.1955 BTC [+] {4}
07:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00169999 = 0.1666 BTC [+] {2}
07:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2500 @ 0.00169999 = 4.25 BTC [+] {3}
07:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 124 @ 0.0017 = 0.2108 BTC [+]
07:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3077 @ 0.00178368 = 5.4884 BTC [+] {11}
07:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7382 @ 0.00079533 = 5.8711 BTC [+]
07:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.34479997 BTC [+]
07:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 649 @ 0.00165 = 1.0709 BTC [-] {3}
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08:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 993 @ 0.00179106 = 1.7785 BTC [+] {6}
08:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.0007978 = 3.7896 BTC [+]
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09:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1175 @ 0.00331477 = 3.8949 BTC [+] {11}
09:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00079898 = 6.232 BTC [+] {2}
09:09 nubbins` morning
09:11 ThickAsThieves mornin'
09:17 nubbins` ah! there's been a couple of nibbles on my auction for a redeemed casascius coin.
09:23 jurov` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg3070086#msg3070086 funny stuff about evoorhees :D
09:23 ozbot [CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx
09:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 408 @ 0.00031102 = 0.1269 BTC [-] {2}
09:26 nubbins` jurov he's a magician now: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-aqc14tIy6E/SbCUiDAEdTI/AAAAAAAAABg/oHwqqbKLi3Y/s320/gob+bluth.jpg
09:29 jurov` dats not him. i met him irl
09:32 nubbins` shh :(
09:34 kakobrekla >Erik obviously wants to keep his privacy.
09:34 kakobrekla hes been on tv a dozen times
09:38 jurov` ^this. that's why i find it soo funny
09:39 ThickAsThieves yknow who's pretty sharp that i didnt used to pay any mind, Crumbs
09:39 ThickAsThieves we should get his ass in here
09:40 jurov` ;;seen evoorhees
09:40 gribble evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 weeks, 1 day, 14 hours, 42 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <evoorhees> I need to go for now, on later
09:40 jurov` but he lurks as GuestXXXX usually
09:41 kakobrekla into porn now
09:41 jurov` what, that trophy gf left him? or got bored?
09:42 kakobrekla dunno
09:43 kakobrekla porn and gf is not exclusive
09:44 nubbins` ^
09:44 jurov` i know, just trying to get gossip going
09:49 nubbins` i heard he sleeps upside-down
09:58 ThickAsThieves 10% jump in nethash overnight
10:10 nubbins` wow!
10:12 davout did someone say gossip?
10:14 nubbins` http://cdn.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/Wherecoolthingshappen_christals5.jpg
10:14 nubbins` three-sided snowflake
10:14 nubbins` well, technically still six. but y'know
10:15 pankkake could snowflakes be used as proof of work?
10:16 nubbins` proof of winter ;(
10:16 nubbins` http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaoticmind75/with/10152925944/
10:16 ozbot Flickr: ChaoticMind75's Photostream
10:17 pankkake nice
10:17 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg3766958#msg3766958
10:17 ozbot [Mpex.co] The biggest scam in bitcoin history?
10:18 ThickAsThieves In case ya'll missed it Neo & Bee Bitcoin Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb1zZoUfMGE&feature=youtu.be
10:18 ThickAsThieves I think it came out pretty slick
10:18 pankkake yes the video is very good. can't find any flaw
10:21 nubbins` Dr Greg uses words that I don't understand
10:21 pankkake me neither. so he must be right
10:22 ThickAsThieves Dr. Greg is basically saying that someone could clean MP out
10:23 ThickAsThieves it's a point, but sorta sideways to the prior posts
10:23 pankkake well the prior posts are not worth even reading
10:23 ThickAsThieves likely
10:24 nubbins` great video
10:25 nubbins` you guys got your money's worth :D
10:25 ThickAsThieves http://nfcring.com/bitcoin/
10:25 ozbot NFC Ring - Safe, Simple, Secure. || NFC Ring - One smart ring, unlimited possibilities || Bitcoin Pr
10:28 pankkake I've ordered one (through kickstarter, though they also were open on a bitcoin one)
10:28 nubbins` hey, i remember those
10:28 pankkake oh it's new orders
10:29 ThickAsThieves i ordered a couple fromt the kick
10:29 ThickAsThieves yeah
10:29 ThickAsThieves it's a promo link i got for being a backer
10:29 ThickAsThieves cept i dont need more
10:30 pankkake the stealth bomber looks better than the classic… but I don't even have a use for the first one :p
10:31 nubbins` heh
10:31 nubbins` not a fan of the woven carbon look
10:31 nubbins` and i already have a ring D;
10:32 nubbins` ...and i literally have no use for NFC
10:32 nubbins` but still! these are really cool.
10:32 pankkake the guy likes bitcoin though. perhaps we'll see more stuff from him in the future
10:34 nubbins` nod
10:34 ThickAsThieves the carbon thing is a filler
10:34 ThickAsThieves it can be swapped
10:34 nubbins` ah!
10:34 nubbins` great
10:35 nubbins` it's all a bit light on detail
10:35 pankkake when I chose mine the other options were not very good looking either
10:35 ThickAsThieves dont think, buy.
10:35 ThickAsThieves hehe
10:35 nubbins` not sure about ordering a ring online, too :P
10:35 pankkake it's not very expensive anyway
10:35 nubbins` i tried on like fifteen different ones before i found one that (a) i liked and (b) fit well
10:36 pankkake and this one is quite large
10:38 nubbins` as is mine
10:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1583 @ 0.00031044 = 0.4914 BTC [-] {3}
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11:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00079942 = 3.1977 BTC [+]
11:24 KRS1 Max Keiser‏@maxkeiser 28 Nov Somebody out there should start a 'keisercoin' I'm pretty sure it would go from $0 to $100 mn. pretty quickly
11:25 KRS1 What a fool..obviously thinks too highly of himself.
11:25 KRS1 He must have a staff of people scraping the internet daily to see what people are saying about him.
11:27 nubbins` heh
11:28 nubbins` "Everybody out there should suck my dick"
11:28 nubbins` "Max you can't just say that"
11:28 nubbins` "Well, make it about coins or something"
11:28 nubbins` maybe i'm just jealous tho, because nobody would buy nubcoins
11:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4618 @ 0.00079942 = 3.6917 BTC [+]
11:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00079902 = 3.276 BTC [-]
11:34 mircea_popescu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Operating_System_Solutions
11:34 ozbot Bharat Operating System Solutions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
11:34 mircea_popescu today i learned.
11:36 nubbins` "The latest desktop version of BOSS GNU/Linux is fully localised to eighteen Indian languages."
11:38 mircea_popescu there's a world out there i tell you.
11:41 nubbins` the spread of language is a fascinating topic
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.335 BTC [-]
11:50 mircea_popescu indeed.
11:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00179 = 0.895 BTC [-]
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 532 @ 0.00179999 = 0.9576 BTC [+] {2}
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.029 = 0.145 BTC [-]
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2917 @ 0.00035149 = 1.0253 BTC [+] {6}
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 3065 @ 0.00038773 = 1.1884 BTC [+] {4}
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.0018165 = 0.1199 BTC [-] {3}
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12:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.0293 = 0.1465 BTC [+] {2}
12:20 KRS1 do you guys know anything about mastercoin
12:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00079985 = 5.359 BTC [+] {2}
12:26 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/revisiting-the-topic-of-economic-injustice-with-examples/
12:26 ozbot Revisiting the topic of “economic injustice”, with examples pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popes
12:27 mircea_popescu KRS1 iirc it's some attempt to do something very similar to colored coins while claiming a different name for the thing, and some snappy website.
12:27 mircea_popescu basically as best anyone can determine the body of shills that were trying to push ripple half a year back and got trampled underfoot have mooved on to this thing.
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.08187011 = 0.3275 BTC [-] {2}
12:28 mircea_popescu too early to say that it's stupid, if it actually is. so far, we just don't know why anyone should care.
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.06505001 = 0.5204 BTC [-] {2}
12:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00079996 = 14.2393 BTC [+] {2}
12:41 thestringpuller ;;ticker
12:41 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1166.30003, Best ask: 1168.69998, Bid-ask spread: 2.39995, Last trade: 1166.30001, 24 hour volume: 48299.58455324, 24 hour low: 1050.0, 24 hour high: 1242.0, 24 hour vwap: 1157.40475
12:42 mircea_popescu aww no 1500 ?!
12:42 mircea_popescu IT HAS BEEN A DAY!!!
12:42 mircea_popescu I DEMAND MY IMAGINARY WINNINGS!
12:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12089 @ 0.00080004 = 9.6717 BTC [+] {2}
12:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5102 @ 0.00080062 = 4.0848 BTC [+] {2}
12:44 kakobrekla imaginary winnings?
12:45 kakobrekla bitbet crew are experts at that stuff
12:45 mircea_popescu lol
12:46 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you are such a riot!
12:46 thestringpuller you should do stand up
12:47 thestringpuller "In Romania, topless girl execute orders not computer!!!"
12:47 thestringpuller "What's the difference between a topless girl and a computer?"
12:47 mircea_popescu it doesn't pay nearly enough
12:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.07899999 = 0.237 BTC [+]
12:54 dexX7 are bitcoin tx slow at the moment?
12:54 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
12:54 gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 9 seconds
12:55 dexX7 looks like the size of the recent blocks reached the soft? limit again
12:56 dexX7 this wouldn't have an impact on tslb i think
12:57 mircea_popescu a in that sense
12:57 mircea_popescu well... tx fees you know ?
12:57 mircea_popescu i expect next year all blocks will be full
12:57 mircea_popescu which is how this thing is supposed to work, bid for tx space.
13:00 thestringpuller dude why are there so many magic numbers in the bitcoin source code
13:00 thestringpuller I didn't know it was this bad
13:00 mircea_popescu dexX7 last few blocks are < 1/4mb anyway
13:00 mircea_popescu wasn't soft limit 500k ?
13:00 mircea_popescu thestringpuller that's what everyone says, "holy shit, i had no idea it is this bad"
13:01 dexX7 all last 7 were at 250 + 1 (eligius) at 500
13:01 thestringpuller bandwidth should increas 30% so we'll just put float 0.3 here
13:01 thestringpuller da fuq....
13:01 mircea_popescu ppl can't code.
13:01 mircea_popescu ;;google site:trilema.com "magic numbers"
13:01 gribble The bitchslapping of 2013… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/the-bitchslapping-of-2013>; And Gavin moves on to the dark side. The Bitcoin project is officially ...: <http://trilema.com/and-gavin-moves-on-to-the-dark-side-the-bitcoin-project-is-officially-hijacked>; The reason you can't have nice numbers and other considerations ...: (1 more message)
13:02 mircea_popescu literally all the articles that come up for that query discuss the bitcoin tardteam.
13:02 bloctoc KRS1 - I suppose I fit the definition of one of the shills who was pumping Ripple last year and is on to mastercoin this year. I moved all my ripples to mastercoin last night. Why? I'm convinced that Enron got gutted instead of highly leveraged company x because they pretty much gave the finger to the rest of the trading community at every opportunity. I see Ripple (commercial version) guys having done the same thing to the
13:02 bloctoc bitcoin community. I don't know what the alternatives are with colored coins, but I really like the idea of reversible transactions using mastercoin.
13:03 mircea_popescu bloctoc why ?
13:03 mircea_popescu (do you like the idea of reversible transactions)
13:03 bloctoc I have enough bitcoins sitting on my laptop that I fear theft.
13:04 mircea_popescu but he who can reverse transactions can steal them
13:04 mircea_popescu this is a degradation of your security.
13:04 bloctoc …and I can't seem to build trust to trade in bitcoin-otc I'm hoping that reversible transactions helps there too.
13:05 mircea_popescu hm.
13:05 mircea_popescu but i fail to see the logic, if you don't like the bitcoin in bitcoin why not just sell them for fiat or rubber tyres or w./e that better suits your needs.
13:08 bloctoc I traded bitcoin for mastercoin because I want to try out a p2p passthrough for mpex.co
13:09 bloctoc if colored coins is better for that, then I'm all ears. I'm not dogmatic.
13:11 mircea_popescu i'm not dogmatic either, contrary to what you may have heard :)
13:11 mircea_popescu trying to sound out this entire thing, so.
13:12 mircea_popescu now, that i do it with a 200kgf vice and an acetylene blowtorch... well.. just a matter of style.
13:12 thestringpuller sounds like someone is cooking meth...
13:17 mircea_popescu who ? what ?
13:21 bloctoc I don't want to load this channel up with alt coin discussions, but there are other functionalities that need to go p2p to take care of things like profitable mining companies that lose their centralized exchange.
13:22 pankkake mastercoin: "Peer to Peer Exchange, User Currencies, Savings Wallets, Smart Property, and Future Event Contacts"
13:22 pankkake besides the misspelling "contacts", I'm not sure what's the point of a blockchain
13:23 pankkake for OTC trading I've even made *throwable* contracts; when it's done no need to keep it
13:23 pankkake however perhaps a web of trust on the blockchain could be useful
13:24 mircea_popescu yeah. i agree pankkake, i can't discern any point where this diverges from bitcoin differently than simple ignorance.
13:25 pankkake "user currencies" is actually a good idea, but it's decentralized (except its trading between users); you'd have an issuer
13:25 pankkake makes a better Ripple in any case
13:25 mircea_popescu everyone : there's a new ipmi exploit, it's perfectly capable to root your box.
13:26 mircea_popescu if your ipmi interface is exposed ot the public internet you're at risk
13:26 pankkake I've seen that, scary… pretty sure my server in a datacenter has ipmi, I don't know how filtered it is
13:27 mircea_popescu this is why kvm over local ip is so much better
13:27 mircea_popescu then again, ipmi si cheaper.
13:27 pankkake yeah, that's the thing
13:27 pankkake but hardware with those fancy web interfaces is such a bad idea
13:27 pankkake there's been many router hacks etc
13:27 mircea_popescu verily.
13:28 mircea_popescu at least the router you can configure to only be accessible from the in side.
13:28 mircea_popescu which is how they default
13:28 pankkake usually. there's been examples in the wild of the contrary
13:29 pankkake and then there's the default passwords
13:29 pankkake or defaulting to WEP
13:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00080077 = 3.6435 BTC [+]
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13:48 mircea_popescu Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform
13:48 mircea_popescu hallelujah
13:48 mod6 ^^
13:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.06555999 = 1.3112 BTC [-] {11}
13:53 mod6 Thx for the update on ipmi.
13:54 pankkake wasn't that known already, the flash thing?
13:55 mircea_popescu prolly. i only now heard
13:55 jurov` i didn't knew it
13:55 pankkake doesn't really mean the end of flash… just that they won't port newer versions
13:56 pankkake also there's this thing with Chrome, a bundled Flash, not using the NPAPI
13:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00080077 = 9.6493 BTC [+]
14:01 ThickAsThieves so frustrated right now, fancy new audio pc has no firewire port...
14:02 nubbins` harder and harder to find these days
14:02 pankkake cheap pci cards available
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7345 @ 0.0008004 = 5.8789 BTC [-] {2}
14:02 ThickAsThieves last i check a majority of audio peeps use firewire sound cards
14:03 pankkake no I mean, PCI cards providing Firewire ports
14:03 ThickAsThieves yeah but i want sound now :(
14:03 pankkake "I ain't instructing your bulbously barren head" lol… and here I was waiting for an actual discussion
14:04 nubbins` lots of people just get a USB interface with a bunch of audio ports too
14:04 nubbins` you can get some nice multitrack boards these days for not too much $$
14:05 ThickAsThieves its the same card from my previous sys, a MOTU 828mkii
14:06 ThickAsThieves tested to convert audio as well as some very expensive stuff from today
14:06 ThickAsThieves made before they started using shitty converter chips
14:18 mircea_popescu ahaha that dr greg forum guy is hysterical.
14:18 mircea_popescu "how one never enters naked options positions, while simultaneously never hedging options positions"
14:18 mircea_popescu aka, "how does one not steal clothes while also not returning them"
14:19 mircea_popescu forum muppets never heard of this mystical concept of, you know... like having money ?
14:19 ThickAsThieves yeah but he's worried you'll lose all your money and then some
14:19 mod6 they give phd's to anyone these days.
14:19 mircea_popescu mod6 esp on forums. besides, dr nefario also had one.
14:20 mod6 hahah
14:20 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves because if a bunch of redditards didn't do a lot of worrying, the ozone layer would still be there
14:20 pankkake http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rpx26/mastercoin_is_a_joke/ (didn't read yet)
14:20 ozbot Mastercoin is a joke : Bitcoin
14:20 mircea_popescu o oops sorry my bad, the HOLE i meant. the ozone layer is fine. it was saved.
14:21 ThickAsThieves "Mastercoin crossed $1,000,000 USD worth of MSC in trading volume in a 24 hours period" (citing /u/DJohnston)
14:21 mircea_popescu the burnside method ?
14:25 mircea_popescu "First things first, I am a Genderfluid, meaning I consider myself both male and female, but I am a biological woman. I am in tune with myself and I am a Black Beta Wolf."
14:25 pankkake Black Beta Wolf?
14:25 mircea_popescu i dare not ask.
14:26 mircea_popescu tho a "Why not a dragon ?" seems appropriate.
14:26 pankkake well, do you know about the "otherkin" stuff?
14:26 mircea_popescu people with subclinical mental issues trying to make their insanity socially acceptable ?
14:27 pankkake "I think I'm a penguin, so I am a penguin", basically
14:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.060008 = 0.24 BTC [-] {3}
14:27 mircea_popescu right.
14:27 mircea_popescu i am black napoleon, i discovered america in indonesia.
14:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.03464114 = 0.2771 BTC [-] {8}
14:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2000 @ 0.00030507 = 0.6101 BTC [-] {4}
14:28 pankkake beta wolf could describe personality, but don't see why black
14:28 mircea_popescu of course afaik beta wolves don't have sex.
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.32003145 = 3.8404 BTC [-] {5}
14:30 pankkake or beta humans in PUA theory
14:30 pankkake "In some species of birds, males pair up in twos when courting, the beta male aiding the alpha male."
14:30 mircea_popescu beta humans have sex all the time
14:30 mircea_popescu how do you think all the puas are born ?
14:30 mircea_popescu pankkake ahaha that's the jerry-george idea~!
14:30 pankkake I don't remember that
14:31 mircea_popescu ;;google the summer of george
14:31 gribble The Summer of George - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Summer_of_George>; Summer of George - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPS3qLtaFtw>; "Seinfeld" The Summer of George (TV Episode 1997) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697794/>
14:37 pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/633/bfl-will-ship-before-activemining/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK yay! however I'm surprised bbet mods think No is the most likely. hmm unless it's accounting for the both not shipping
14:37 mircea_popescu well doh ?
14:37 pankkake BFL would be more than 2 months late. well, why not
14:38 pankkake I would think they would fail less hard this time
14:38 pankkake we'll see!
14:39 mircea_popescu count yourself lucky if they deliver a box of fans by the 4th of july
14:39 pankkake past performance does not predict the future!
14:39 pankkake though a history of failure often does
14:40 ThickAsThieves everyone has a gift
14:41 ThickAsThieves have you seen boogie nights yet mp?
14:42 ThickAsThieves ' The film tells the rags-to-riches-to-rags story of a young man with a dream. 17-year-old busboy Eddie Adams (Mark Wahlberg) believes that "everyone is blessed with one special gift." In Eddie's case, the gift is a 13" penis and boundless sexual energy. '
14:42 drmandude does the name brak mean anything to any of you? I got .10 in btc with no information other than "brak" thought i might have won a bet.
14:43 ThickAsThieves brak is a space ghost character
14:43 ThickAsThieves i like beans!
14:43 ThickAsThieves and such
14:47 drmandude yeah i know that
14:47 drmandude but hmmm
14:47 drmandude who would send me .10 btc with no reason
14:47 drmandude brak obama
14:47 drmandude lol
14:48 pankkake :D
14:49 kakobrekla oh yeah sorry about that
14:49 kakobrekla you can return those to my address
14:51 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i have.
14:52 mircea_popescu i had seen it once before, 10ish years ago. it sucked then, it still sucks
14:53 mircea_popescu speaking of films, this is probably the best visual gag of all time : http://trilema.com/2013/ah-les-belles-bacchantes/
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.06999999 = 0.35 BTC [-] {3}
14:57 thestringpuller that is pretty good
15:03 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you played the original GTA no?
15:04 mircea_popescu yeah.
15:04 mircea_popescu ok, i think I found the oldest written argument against the state and for decentralisation.
15:05 mircea_popescu L'Histoire de Guillaume le Marechal
15:05 mircea_popescu 13th century.
15:06 thestringpuller weren't the greeks decentralized?
15:07 thestringpuller or was their no argument for it back then?
15:10 mircea_popescu well it has to be written actually
15:10 mircea_popescu but in general the greeks were quite decentralised, to the degree plato
15:11 mircea_popescu 's leviathanesque ideas struck as edgy rather than stupid
15:16 thestringpuller interesting. I wonder where the first argument for the behemoth of centralized government came from
15:16 mircea_popescu in written form, probably locke.
15:17 mircea_popescu mnah, the leviathan is earlier. hobbes.
15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 72 @ 0.08900819 = 6.4086 BTC [+] {12}
15:18 jurov` plato had some stuff about ideal state, no? but he prolly did not meant centralisation
15:18 mircea_popescu jurov` he did so mean centralisation. plato's idea of the republic informs both mussolini's "all in the party and nothing outside the party" as well as mao's cultural revolution.
15:19 mircea_popescu they're both very naive, yet very pure and very faithful platonisms,
15:19 mircea_popescu much in the way plato's own nonsense ended up with socrate dead.
15:24 Venat so yeah
15:25 Venat https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352085.0 good idea or bad idea.
15:25 Venat this dude has a puzzle and charges for questions he will answer with yes or no
15:30 mircea_popescu ;;calc 2**17
15:30 gribble 131072
15:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.00155541 = 2.3331 BTC [+] {7}
15:32 mircea_popescu seems like a gem that takes work.
15:32 mircea_popescu of the thinking kind.
15:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.001551 = 1.551 BTC [-] {3}
15:32 mircea_popescu this on the surface seems to be exactly wrong : the sorts of people liable to send btc over to "profit" in such a scheme would be the exact ones not inclined to sit down and try and figure out anything.
15:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 616 @ 0.00155064 = 0.9552 BTC [-] {7}
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00152235 = 0.1507 BTC [-] {5}
15:34 thestringpuller lolol
15:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.0015 = 0.147 BTC [-] {2}
15:36 dexX7 "Every question is a transaction with BTC and a 'signed message(=question)' to the pot-adress." ... signed msg to the pot-address? how does that work?
15:38 dexX7 oh look https://blockchain.info/de/address/1GameCdKcrjr8mfDzDQMQX83zaZ1bU8UQP
15:38 nubbins` i guess he just means put it in the note field
15:39 dexX7 yea
15:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8166 @ 0.00079842 = 6.5199 BTC [-] {2}
15:39 dexX7 so where can i find such a mixer?
15:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2975 @ 0.0007976 = 2.3729 BTC [-]
15:40 mircea_popescu dexX7 you mean tag txs ? blockchain wallet apparently does it
15:41 nubbins` nod
15:42 mircea_popescu otherwise you can introduce arbitrary data in your tx, which peopel don't like because it bloats the chain
15:42 mircea_popescu (blockchain uses a hash mechanism to mostly avoid this problem)
15:42 nubbins` there's a limit of i think 256 chars
15:42 mircea_popescu nubbins` no there isn't, people have put child porn in there.
15:42 nubbins` wat!
15:43 dexX7 i know about the blockchain.info note.. i was just wondering about how he phrased the sentence
15:43 dexX7 and then i was curious about the coin mixing
15:43 dexX7 but saw just that blockchain.info has a mixer included now
15:44 nubbins` it's had a "shared send" thing for a while now, iirc
15:44 mircea_popescu nubbins` you got strings ? (the linux util)
15:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.0007976 = 3.9082 BTC [-]
15:47 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274613.msg3089270#msg3089270 << guy went short "everything" in september.
15:55 mircea_popescu http://www.dailydot.com/business/bitcoin-child-porn-transaction-code/ << possibly the most iliterate discussion of bitcoin, at least since the last time amir taaki said something.
15:57 BingoBoingo "Looking like the 'August 2012' bubble" <- Does the poster mean that time Pirateat40 dumped a bunch of coins for fiat and depressed the exchange rate for months?
15:58 mircea_popescu you mean the time pirate guy tried to depress the exhcnage rate and failed miserably within an afternoon ?
15:58 BingoBoingo Were they the same time? I need to go back and check on that.
15:59 mircea_popescu there's the log somewhere, lulzy reading material.
16:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13413 @ 0.00079976 = 10.7272 BTC [+] {2}
16:11 pankkake http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/linux-worm-targeting-hidden-devices
16:14 mircea_popescu The worm, Linux.Darlloz, exploits a PHP vulnerability
16:14 mircea_popescu who the fuck has apache on an embedded chip
16:15 pankkake actually, php-cgi, so likely not apache
16:15 pankkake (apache users are often with mod_php)
16:16 mircea_popescu even better o.o
16:17 mircea_popescu who installs php in cgi mode ?!
16:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00080094 = 6.1672 BTC [+]
16:18 pankkake who installs php?!
16:18 pankkake php-cgi is fastcgi too. but on a router it might make sense to have cgi; less memory usage when the web interface is not used
16:19 mircea_popescu pankkake well the entire "we put lamp in there" thing i could see maybe
16:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00079652 = 7.6466 BTC [-] {3}
16:23 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/633/bfl-will-ship-before-activemining/
16:23 mircea_popescu basically this is a "bfl will fail to deliver by march" wioth some irrelevant crap tacked on
~ 21 minutes ~
16:45 jurov` interesting, all BitcoinSARL's stuff is unreachable except bitcoinbourse.eu
16:47 jurov` https://twitter.com/dotcoin loool so dude has it at some french hosting.. and nobody's going to fix it cus it's friday evening
16:49 benkay ;;ticker --market bitstamp
16:49 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1128.51, Best ask: 1129.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 1129.0, 24 hour volume: 21860.41608710, 24 hour low: 988.22, 24 hour high: 1129.0, 24 hour vwap: 1048.35502421
16:49 benkay ;;ticker --currency xau
16:49 gribble MtGox BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.972824, Best ask: 0.975199936, Bid-ask spread: 0.00238, Last trade: 0.97176, 24 hour volume: 49622.81261394, 24 hour low: 0.84, 24 hour high: 0.9936, 24 hour vwap: 0.928699928
16:49 jurov` anyone knows who is behing this? http://alpha-t.net/ - litecoin asic
16:50 jurov` the font in logo made me suspect it's bitcoinsarl's doing... but can't find any link
16:50 jurov` aka markus weiler
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00179999 = 0.135 BTC [+] {3}
16:53 mircea_popescu first time i see it.
16:53 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg3769061#msg3769061
16:53 mircea_popescu and picostocks ends.
16:55 jurov` meh, they will do an IPO
16:58 davout ouch
17:02 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-picostocks/
17:03 mircea_popescu the funny part : his cold wallet was 600 btc and his hot wallet 5k
17:03 mircea_popescu because that's how you design these things.
17:06 benkay "cold wallet"
17:07 benkay ain't a cold wallet if someone had access in the past.
17:08 mircea_popescu shhh
17:08 mircea_popescu this is the internet, where things are whatever anyone imagines them to be.
17:11 kakobrekla http://i.4cdn.org/s/src/1385759866649.jpg
17:11 kakobrekla 0 ghash :\
17:12 mircea_popescu no, i think she gets a few hashes.
17:14 benkay http://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/
17:14 benkay where's the dark search engine, eh?
17:14 benkay to whom do i send .00001 btc for a good indexing of all of the content that us and related thugs want me kept from?
17:15 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/revisiting-the-topic-of-economic-injustice-with-examples/#comment-96414 << which one of you people said that ?
17:15 ozbot Revisiting the topic of “economic injustice”, with examples pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popes
17:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0007969 = 7.1721 BTC [+]
17:17 benkay slavery's the default state, yo. just because democracy has been here for the past several however long doesn't mean that either a) it eradicated things that look like what americans would knee-jerk call 'slavery' instantly upon governmental instantiation OR b) it worked well and can be used as a demonstration of why all other forms of government are bad
17:18 benkay regular turnover at the top is required, dammit!
17:18 benkay and that comes with bloodshed.
17:18 mircea_popescu he has a point tho. it doesn't HAVE to come with bloodshed.
17:18 mircea_popescu the idea is to not arrange economic incentives so that anyone is better served by denying another's competence than by recognising it.
17:19 mircea_popescu in this sense, democracy is possibly the worst system, inasmuch as look at all the wrangling in the forums re mpex.
17:20 benkay democracy is worst because it tends towards denying competence instead of recognizing it?
17:21 mircea_popescu it incentivizes people to deny competence instead of recognising it, yes.
17:23 benkay related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante
17:24 mircea_popescu heh
17:24 benkay it conflates competence with acreditation, too
17:25 jurov` i dont believe democracy particularly stands out
17:25 jurov` people promote competence only in times of need
17:26 jurov` otherwise it's petty games
17:26 mircea_popescu well, i'd state that as "people are willing to step on their unwarranted self delusions of grandeur and recognise other's superiority only when hunger or fear compels them to"
17:26 mircea_popescu obviously exceptions, what we call gentlemen, exist.
17:26 mircea_popescu these are probably going to stay exceptions
17:30 mircea_popescu more generally : on any particular question you will always find more people who made a mistake than people who got it right. this is the very nature of error. if voting decides what's error and what's not then there will be nothing but errors.
17:30 mircea_popescu democracy fundamentally incentivizes people to be wrong.
17:31 benkay how? i understand the majority of a group of humans being wrong about things, but how do you get from that to democracy incentivizing people to be wrong?
17:32 mircea_popescu well, would you rather lose the elections or win the elections ?
17:33 benkay oh, so the guy on the podium says things that are wrong to get the votes
17:33 benkay "i stand for giving everyone a buttcoin!"
17:33 mircea_popescu it's visible there, but otherwise ubiquitous.
17:33 benkay "vote derp 2020!"
17:34 mircea_popescu why do you think people watch the crud "entertainment" produced these days ?
17:34 nubbins` it certainly incentivizes people to pretend they know what they're doing, even when they fully do not
17:34 mircea_popescu because it's good ?
17:34 mircea_popescu nubbins` i think that's the most visible form of the thing, "so this guy can drive, well, so can I. watch me"
17:35 nubbins` combine that with the fact that for some reason, admitting you were wrong is a death blow in politics
17:35 nubbins` people will just drive the car off the cliff rather than let someone else take over the wheel -- or even suggest which direction to turn!
17:36 mircea_popescu luckily we have enough cars.
17:36 nubbins` and deep canyons
17:37 jurov` again, doesn't a despot have to do the same?
17:37 jurov` what's to do with democracy?
17:37 mircea_popescu a despot has to be good enough to survive.
17:37 nubbins` jurov, this is common among all forms of leadership
17:37 nubbins` not restricted to democracy
17:37 mircea_popescu the voter faces no such challenge (and in fact the only funds diverted from filing canyons with crumpled cars go to ensure elector never faces any inconvenience)
17:38 mircea_popescu no, i really beleive it's not the same thing. the despot is perpetually at danger for hius life.
17:38 nubbins` the politician believes his situation to be just as serious, however naively
17:39 jurov` would that improve or impair his rational skills? i'm not sure
17:39 jurov` being at danger for one's life can improve fighting skills... but statesman skills? dunno
17:40 mircea_popescu nubbins` the politician is unimportant. compare the sovereigns. elector vs tyrant.
17:40 mircea_popescu jurov` well, it may or may not improve skills, but it does incentivize the right way at least.
17:42 mircea_popescu scared tyrants aren't particularly dangerous. it's the tyrants that perceive themselves safe, a la stalin or the voting public in france/us/sweden/etc that are dangerous.
17:43 benkay to my naive eyes, it seems like large-scale organization requires an external threat to keep the organizing machinery even remotely functional
17:44 thestringpuller diving and trading on mpex
17:44 thestringpuller talkin onth eirc
17:44 mircea_popescu the unthreatened mongols organised pretty much central asia's most complex empire.
17:44 thestringpuller love the space future!!!!
17:44 thestringpuller gangsta
17:45 mircea_popescu who threatened the brits during their heyday ?
17:45 benkay naivte...
17:45 mircea_popescu nah, it's not outside threat, it's a certain worldview. one that deliberately opresses stupidity.
17:45 nubbins` and to this day, ghengis khan's face festoons the walls of mongolian eateries the world over!
17:45 thestringpuller the french?
17:45 mircea_popescu what's come to be known as "colonialism" is the key ingredient to civilisation.
17:46 mircea_popescu thestringpuller the french were quite routed after trafalgar and waterloo.
17:49 nubbins` oh hey, finally hit $1000 on virtex
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02901001 = 0.2611 BTC [-]
17:51 kakobrekla dat window cleaner.
17:54 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=352328.msg3772410
17:54 ozbot Efforts of Developing new Exchange Service
17:54 mircea_popescu have no fear, there's fresh replacements.
17:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32001402 BTC [-]
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.320001 = 1.28 BTC [-]
17:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00183997 = 0.2098 BTC [+]
17:57 mod6 its like whack-a-mole
17:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00183997 = 0.1785 BTC [+]
17:57 Duffer1 how's your game coming along MP?
17:58 mircea_popescu Duffer1 not bad. now there's functioning indoors,
17:58 mircea_popescu and a bunch of other stuff.
17:58 Duffer1 what's the site again? it's been a while since i've looked at it
18:00 mircea_popescu you mean downloads mirror ? http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/
18:01 Duffer1 ah i meant website where i could see progress
18:01 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/category/smg/ ?
18:01 ozbot S.MG pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
18:03 Duffer1 awesome, thanks
18:07 ThickAsThieves https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/bitcoin-research-in-princeton-cs/
18:07 ozbot Bitcoin Research in Princeton CS
18:07 ThickAsThieves bitbet watchout!
18:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00079654 = 6.1334 BTC [-] {2}
18:09 mircea_popescu lol the guy "build an understanding of the political economy" w/o ever showing up on bitcoin-assets ?
18:09 mircea_popescu what's with fiat academics and bold claims ?
18:09 mircea_popescu "We showed that this is not the case, that there are infinitely many outcomes that are stable yet differ from the written rules of Bitcoin."
18:09 ThickAsThieves i like how mp never makes bold claims
18:09 mircea_popescu lmao. glwt srsly.
18:10 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i'm no academic.
18:10 ThickAsThieves :)
18:10 ThickAsThieves did someone already announce this same thing 2mos ago
18:10 ThickAsThieves the next intrade for bitcoin
18:11 mircea_popescu There are two main difficulties: first, how can a pair of anonymous participants trade shares without a trusted party to facilitate the transaction?
18:11 mircea_popescu ahahaha
18:11 mircea_popescu o gawdy.
18:11 ThickAsThieves hah
18:11 ThickAsThieves he'll make colored coins while he's at it
18:11 mircea_popescu when we take over there's going to be a grand bronze statue of The Anonymous Derp in Bitcoin Plaza
18:11 mircea_popescu the Anon Derp will go "hey guyse here's this new original wheel I invented all by myself in my garret!"
18:12 mircea_popescu where's deadweasel to link him to the log.
18:12 mircea_popescu ;;later tell deadweasel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-11-2013#399339
18:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:12 ThickAsThieves can the statue be riding a unicycle whilst making the claim?
18:12 mircea_popescu yes.
18:12 mircea_popescu by all means it should.
18:12 mod6 haha
18:17 thestringpuller ;;ticker
18:17 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1213.6, Best ask: 1215.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.40000, Last trade: 1213.53111, 24 hour volume: 47461.30788966, 24 hour low: 1050.0, 24 hour high: 1242.0, 24 hour vwap: 1161.81461
18:18 thestringpuller oh wow
18:19 benkay ;;ticker --currency xau
18:19 gribble MtGox BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.9720972, Best ask: 0.972792, Bid-ask spread: 0.00069, Last trade: 0.97203616, 24 hour volume: 46968.16654223, 24 hour low: 0.84, 24 hour high: 0.9936, 24 hour vwap: 0.929718168
18:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 679 @ 0.00191362 = 1.2993 BTC [+] {8}
18:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1352 @ 0.00194011 = 2.623 BTC [+] {7}
18:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1800 @ 0.00203374 = 3.6607 BTC [+] {3}
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.0020338 = 0.1729 BTC [+]
18:27 benkay oh look who it is
18:28 benkay hello sir
18:28 benkay firstblockchain: talkin to you
18:28 jcpham yay webchat!
18:28 benkay everybody gotta start somewhere
18:33 firstblockchain and Ima listenin'
18:47 thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe
18:47 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00079654 BTC [-]
18:48 mircea_popescu http://rt.com/usa/dhs-canada-depression-richardson-495/
18:49 benkay i barfed in my mouth a little
18:50 benkay gosh it just makes no sense
18:50 benkay give all the starving mexicans citizenship and put them on the welfare rolls, but don't let the depressed canadians in to spend tourist dollars
18:51 Duffer1 "..give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free... LOL JUST KIDDING"
18:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00203498 = 0.1445 BTC [+] {5}
18:54 mircea_popescu i suppose the future of medicine is having doctors sign contracts where if your information leaks they're held in strict liability.
18:55 mircea_popescu "plz ilegallty share my medical records, it makes me 1.5k per item"
18:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00312066 = 0.2216 BTC [-] {2}
18:56 Duffer1 doctors will be forced to comply with secret legislation or their info will be outright stolen by govt backdoors
18:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 149 @ 0.00203999 = 0.304 BTC [+] {2}
18:57 mircea_popescu sucks to be them.
18:58 Duffer1 no doubt
19:07 benkay http://benswann.com/exclusive-dr-mike-vasovski-discusses-reasons-for-going-off-the-insurance-grid/
19:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.0031221 = 0.2591 BTC [+] {2}
19:07 benkay He even described a telephone call in which a salesperson tried to sell him a 284 bit encrypted program. When Vasovski asked him what he thought of Julian Assange, he replied that he didn’t know who that was. “At that point I said, ‘you’re trying to sell me a computer security program and you don’t know who Julian Assange is?’”
19:09 mircea_popescu $avg
19:09 mpexbot mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
19:09 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
19:09 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1206.0, Best ask: 1207.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 1206.00101, 24 hour volume: 36361.83483733, 24 hour low: 1070.0, 24 hour high: 1242.0, 24 hour vwap: 1168.05129
19:09 benkay in related, personal news, i have been having trouble sleeping lately because i jammed a splinter under my thumb after cutting my nails and i can't tell if its infected or i just cut my nails too closely and i don't have health insurance
19:09 mircea_popescu USD1087.03913.44527.31
19:10 mircea_popescu day week month avg prices.
19:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 132 @ 0.0029 = 0.3828 BTC [+]
19:24 HaltingState is this the main mastercoin channel?
19:28 benkay more like masters of the coin
19:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10190 @ 0.00080036 = 8.1557 BTC [+]
19:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00080098 = 30.1969 BTC [+] {4}
19:54 thestringpuller ;;ticker
19:54 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 1224.9, Best ask: 1226.3, Bid-ask spread: 1.40000, Last trade: 1224.9, 24 hour volume: 34850.18782590, 24 hour low: 1080.0, 24 hour high: 1242.0, 24 hour vwap: 1172.65949
19:55 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-november-2013-statement/
19:55 ozbot MPOE, November 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
19:55 mircea_popescu worst month since april or w/e.
19:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.32 = 0.64 BTC [-]
19:58 dexX7 Revenue from new accounts : 530 BTC
19:58 dexX7 wow
19:58 Duffer1 17.6 people? i thought new account were 30 each?
19:58 pankkake who's the 0.666 user?
19:58 dexX7 much more than the last months?
20:00 mircea_popescu Duffer1 you can get 10 off
20:00 mircea_popescu dexX7 about 3x
20:00 pankkake how so? tits?
20:00 mircea_popescu pankkake huh ?
20:00 pankkake the 10 off
20:00 Duffer1 how to get 10 off i think he's asking :P
20:00 mircea_popescu whoa look at that, mpoe profit is branded by the beast.
20:01 mircea_popescu o that. http://mpex.co/faq.html#13
20:02 Duffer1 i see
20:03 benkay SELL SELL SELL
20:04 benkay you know it's going to be a rough month for the bot when it stops quoting
20:04 mircea_popescu benkay that's incidental tho, it stopped quoting because bitcoincharts went kinda awol.
20:05 mircea_popescu and atm there's no options listed because as announced im going to cut a digit.
20:05 mircea_popescu because what's one to do, scientific notation ?
20:05 benkay life on the hockey stick, i suppose.
20:06 mircea_popescu lol this just in, courtesy of concerned investor "i must say, your statement suffers from a lack of comments about your inability to say things and the desire you feel to redeem yourself at a future date"
20:06 benkay what things do they want said?
20:06 benkay "pricing options is a risky business"?
20:09 mircea_popescu i took it to be a sly reference at all the non-statements ppl make on the forum
20:15 dexX7 so picostocks was hacked, huh? ... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133147.msg3769061#msg3769061
20:16 mircea_popescu ywah
20:16 mircea_popescu somehow magically nobody noticed or seems to care.
20:29 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/281/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-150-on/ kakobrekla i wonder how many people still own the addresses they put down on a yearlong bet like that.
20:29 ozbot BitBet - BTC/USD at MtGox will be above $150 on Mar 1st 2014
20:31 pankkake what, you're trying to find a new way to scam users!?
20:32 pankkake " LTC/BTC at BTC-e will stay ABOVE 0.03 and BELOW 0.06 " don't see a similar bet, but the under 0.03 happened already
20:32 mircea_popescu yeah, i'm thinking... it's probably the case that at least half trhe addresses are lost etc. why send btc there ? just stop paying altogether, it's for the good of Bitcoin! </sarcasm>
20:33 pankkake don't pay, see if people complain
20:33 pankkake actually, I was thinking of how much services end up as extra btc from people dying etc
20:33 mircea_popescu Bitcoin price to rise above 1000
20:33 mircea_popescu Rejection reason: Too late. lol good 1
20:33 pankkake on shares migrations, I can see some shares are unacounted for
20:34 mircea_popescu well this is yet another point where bitbet design shines. we don't ever have thios problem
20:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00080074 = 13.2122 BTC [-] {2}
20:34 pankkake having leftover btc is a problem? ;)
20:34 pankkake imagine, you could have a fully feeless service as long as enough people die!
20:35 mircea_popescu this sounds like a problem.
20:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.32 = 2.56 BTC [-]
20:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31823398 = 0.6365 BTC [-] {2}
20:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02900001 = 0.29 BTC [-]
20:45 benkay hey mircea_popescu would you elaborate on how you envision bitbet replacing the courts system?
20:45 mircea_popescu aite.
20:45 mircea_popescu a bet is a controversy in fact, anchored in the future.
20:46 mircea_popescu a suit steams from a controversy in fact, anchored in the past.
20:46 mircea_popescu as the future eventualyl turns into past, what bitbet has to do and what the courts have to do are homomorphic : establish what the words say, what the facts are and how the two relate.
20:47 mircea_popescu i've quite deliberately constructed it so a lot of triage of facts can be easily done by the users
20:47 mircea_popescu (the constant, leave proof in comments thing, for instance)
20:47 mircea_popescu that's a stem. it can further develop.
20:48 mircea_popescu this is incidentally not so different from the core principles of the rota system,
20:48 mircea_popescu where parties to the controversy also had to deliberately submit to judgement and advance bitcoin.
20:48 mircea_popescu bitbet is a superset of that, really.
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00203899 = 0.1346 BTC [-]
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21:25 nubbins` benkay: healthcare.gov
21:26 benkay hey here's a stoopid idea: futures on difficulty rate increase rather than difficulty itself
21:27 nubbins` mircea_popescu: they're just trying to prevent the lady's insurance from being cancelled: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/depressed-woman-loses-benefits-over-facebook-photos-1.861843
21:27 mircea_popescu hah
21:27 mircea_popescu benkay it's been done afaik
21:30 benkay daaah i fail to find references because forum spam.
21:32 nubbins` i don't understand "nastyfans"/"nasty mining"
21:33 nubbins` why does a mining pool have a fan club?
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.31752 BTC [-]
21:34 saulimus nubbins`, it's to disguise investing as "donating" because you're a "fan"
21:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00302061 = 0.1752 BTC [-]
21:35 nubbins` ah, like the college radio station doesn't sell cds, they "gift" you a cd if you "donate" $5
21:35 saulimus something like that
21:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00032376 = 0.1619 BTC [-] {4}
21:38 benkay on an old old topic from the vaults like three days ago, how does one hedge against the local fiat regime's complete failure?
21:38 benkay if building reserves just makes one a milky cow, wat the f do?
21:39 benkay make friends with criminals and broker their bitcoin purchases, thereby positioning self well for imminent shitstorm?
21:39 KRS1 hate to ask this here..i value the opinion of you guys..do you think the site litecoinstore.com is legit
21:40 Duffer1 i have lost faith in everything that isn't bitcoin itself
21:40 Duffer1 go with the assumption it's a scam
21:40 benkay man at a 15% markup for converting your btc to cash that's a rawwww deal
21:40 KRS1 thats what im thinking
21:41 KRS1 benkay i found theres a price to pay one way or the other
21:41 benkay either time to meet someone in person, or money to save the time
21:42 benkay sucks for us broke fuckers with neither time nor money
21:43 KRS1 ok thanks guys i appreciate it-
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 826 @ 0.00032 = 0.2643 BTC [-]
21:44 KRS1 never did in person sale
21:44 KRS1 i don't trust any fucks
21:44 KRS1 except you guys <3
21:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.31752 = 1.2701 BTC [-]
22:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31751032 = 0.9525 BTC [-]
22:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 475 @ 0.00037014 = 0.1758 BTC [+] {5}
22:05 mircea_popescu benkay i distinctly recall a diff will grow 20% or more each week bet on bitbet.
22:05 mircea_popescu KRS1 seems new, i never heard of it b4
22:11 KRS1 ya i approach new in bitcoin carefully.
22:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.32917935 = 0.9875 BTC [+] {3}
22:22 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/effectual-spam-filtering-for-wordpress/
22:22 ozbot Effectual spam filtering for WordPress pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:23 mircea_popescu the article everyone kept asking for.
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22:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13247 @ 0.00080113 = 10.6126 BTC [+] {3}
22:41 dexX7 every day a new php lesson?
22:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.0030292 = 0.6058 BTC [-] {3}
22:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00080511 = 7.5278 BTC [+]
22:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15184 @ 0.00080592 = 12.2371 BTC [+] {2}
22:59 mircea_popescu dexX7 well since i have all this code...
22:59 mircea_popescu by now it's almost worth it to pay for php developers simply to give me trilema article material which then gets me trilema credits which are btc
22:59 mircea_popescu i suspect the whole thing's better than mining.
23:03 dexX7 sounds like a masterplan
23:05 KRS1 does it even have to be php cant it be any content thats sought after
23:06 KRS1 seo it up dude
23:06 KRS1 download an entir KB
23:06 KRS1 ftw
23:07 mircea_popescu lol
23:07 KRS1 grab a leet feed..any number of things would work wouldnt it?
23:08 mircea_popescu i've yet to see a leeter feed than trilema.
23:09 Duffer1 do you have any articles about noobs that lose everything?
23:11 dexX7 uh oh
23:11 Duffer1 hehe
23:11 Duffer1 wts sob story only 182b
23:12 mircea_popescu lol
23:12 mircea_popescu well i do occasionally cover various scams etc.
23:12 Duffer1 he's probably got too much material for blogs posts about that anyways :(
23:16 dexX7 what happend? did you have anything picostocks listed or is it just a general sadness about scams?
23:16 Duffer1 the labcoin scam
23:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7653 @ 0.000805 = 6.1607 BTC [-]
23:20 mircea_popescu tsk tsk.
23:21 mircea_popescu the truth of the matter is, scams are nearly magical, in that they manage to take in people seemingly irrespective of iq etc.
23:29 dexX7 what i think is shocking is that so many things ended bad.. chinese exchanges, inputs.io, basic-mining, labcoin, picostocks, bitfunder..
23:29 dexX7 totally hurts my illusion of a happy btc world
23:32 Duffer1 it's impressive just how bad they ended as well, virtually worst case scenario for all of them
23:32 benkay lower barriers to entry mean lower quality of entrants
23:33 benkay lower quality entrants attract sharks
23:36 Bugpowder ;;seen ThickAsThieves
23:36 gribble ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 23 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> can the statue be riding a unicycle whilst making the claim?
23:39 dexX7 hehe well put..
23:48 mircea_popescu benkay has a point, but the matter is significantly complicated by a large enough population of functionally illiterate people who've been fed for decades on the illusion that someone else is there to protect them
23:48 mircea_popescu and that they don't need to think or do any useful work or manage their own lives or contribute anything worth the mention.
23:49 mircea_popescu put that together with a no-backsies medium and you're definitely attracting sharks.
23:53 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/ << speaking of labcoin, check out the comments on this thing.
23:53 ozbot The anatomy of a scam. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
23:53 dexX7 sec
23:54 dexX7 lel
23:54 mircea_popescu dexX7 wait, that's actually how we met isn't it
23:54 dexX7 yes, it was that time
23:55 mircea_popescu you ended up on the list there by virtue of being in the thread
23:55 dexX7 yup
23:55 dexX7 i still believe in burnside though
23:56 lewicki what is burnside up to?
23:57 dexX7 "cooperates with scammers, fakes volume"
23:57 mircea_popescu working with nefario to invent the exchange of the future.
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