#trilema | 2013-11-23

I'm still not used to btc=500usd :| please stop

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;;calc .1 * 800

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80

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;;calc .3 * 800

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240

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;;calc .5 * 800

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400

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lol

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pankkake: what do you think about havelock, since you are a canadian and all

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I'm French from France! not a dirty Québécois

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hahahahahaha

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I was joshing yo

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I use it. they do things reasonably well… not sure what else to say :)

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i'm hoping they don't disappear like the other two play exchanges

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given all this time I should have just kept my S.MPOE

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the Panama thing is obviously a shell corp, I'm not sure why people are debating that on the forums

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but it shows a willingness to stay

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it probably won't work forever, but I feel they'll always try to be a step ahead

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I feel like Cyprus has a lot of potential to host and exchange

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an*

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the only downside there is the EU

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yea

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maybe argentina?

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otherwise probably, and as the Neo guys say, it's easier to reach politicians

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if you don't get robbed or murdered

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:D

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is neeobee legit?

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neobee?

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*

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depends on what you mean by legit? they obviously exist and are doing what they say

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no dividends yet!

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I'll believe it when I see the cold hard coins

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oh, well I think there are high changes it won't work. or perhaps they will have to change things. I don't have high hopes but I'd like them to succeed

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so I consider my investment there closer to crowdfunding

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given that it's trading below IPO, you have all your time to invest…

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 287 @ 0.00066 = 0.1894 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [COG] 49 @ 0.07498652 = 3.6743 BTC [+] {4}

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[HAVELOCK] [COG] 25 @ 0.07676566 = 1.9191 BTC [+] {4}

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 887 @ 0.0020849 = 1.8493 BTC [+]

01:09

TomServo

;;market sell 50

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A market order to sell 50 bitcoins right now would net 41807.9588 USD and would take the last price down to 834.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 836.1592 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0001 seconds

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3727 @ 0.00012 = 0.4472 BTC [-]

01:24

what the hell is bitcoinity doing?

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http://imgur.com/ISysmCV

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imgur: the simple image sharer

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they have those easter eggs for new highs or something

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it's not even ath

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ok it's real annoying

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incredibly

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your screenshot made by think "5400 USD already?!"

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heh

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i like watching the chinese

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bloctoc

cluelessperson

01:26

china arb yo

01:26

get your forex accounts readddddy

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WE JUST GET READY!

01:27

is it possible to own cny easily?

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if you live in the U.K. maybe

01:27

I actually wanted to have some a few months ago

01:28

you sure dont want to hold on to Yuan imo.

01:28

with US interest rates likely heading north, you would want to be in USD here.

01:30

ugh, it's just broken. it is just constantly flashing that kid. anybody got a different favorite ticker?

01:30

you can probably adblock it

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bloctoc_

zeroblock

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thanks

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 955 @ 0.00066 = 0.6303 BTC [+]

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KRS-: haven't interest rates been going up in the US since like 2010?

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yeah but they're headed up.

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bet that

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I would assume so based on QE-Infinity

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;;calc 10000 * 15000000

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150000000000

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3961 = 0.7922 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 955 @ 0.00066 = 0.6303 BTC [+] {2}

01:53

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.39123 = 3.9123 BTC [-] {3}

01:55

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.39005 = 1.5602 BTC [-] {2}

~ 38 minutes ~

02:33

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.16005001 = 0.8003 BTC [-] {4}

02:38

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 497 @ 0.00066 = 0.328 BTC [+]

02:39

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.002093 = 0.1842 BTC [+]

02:50

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.002092 = 0.4184 BTC [-]

02:53

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3752 BTC [-]

~ 34 minutes ~

03:27

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 600 @ 0.00066 = 0.396 BTC [+]

03:37

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.002093 = 0.2093 BTC [+]

03:47

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00370002 = 0.185 BTC [+]

~ 38 minutes ~

04:26

;;bc,stats

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.0037 = 0.2516 BTC [-] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00368 = 0.1288 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.42449998 = 3.396 BTC [+] {3}

~ 34 minutes ~

05:16

http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/

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The Gentlemen Prefer CoEds Club pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

05:17

pankkake this is what jurov` means :D

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00077978 = 13.5292 BTC [+] {2}

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did you just write that wall of text?

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I hope I made you RAGE with that vid

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4293 BTC [+]

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i didn't watch teh vid past some ill kept woman going "EVERY DAY!!!!" like she was trying to convince herself of something

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but i liked the idea.

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00385981 = 0.386 BTC [+] {4}

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and yeah i just wrote it, doesn't take me much more than ~20 mins/article or thereabouts.

05:22

the "check your privilege everyday is enough"

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move the quote

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hm ?

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the "check your privilege everyday" is enough

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fresh lobster breakfast every day ?

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http://i1.wp.com/blogitude.com/uploads/2013/02/Lobsters.jpg

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.42939996 = 0.8588 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0038989 = 0.1404 BTC [+] {2}

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smoke weed....erryday

~ 24 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 757 @ 0.00066 = 0.4996 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.002093 = 0.1047 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00066 = 1.65 BTC [+]

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lol

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[WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer

~ 22 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.43535 = 1.7414 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.45 = 7.2 BTC [+]

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[WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 141 @ 0.0039602 = 0.5584 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [+]

07:10

sooo, eulora has indoors now.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoia_%28psychology%29

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Pronoia (psychology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00066 = 0.198 BTC [+]

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[WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer

~ 18 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16005001 = 0.3201 BTC [-] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.0730005 = 0.657 BTC [-] {2}

07:43

second HIF IPO round only 3 days?

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first day almost over and they sold a little over 1/3

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interesting

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I doubt the higher tranches will sell

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quite unlikely

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if they're lucky the last discounted one sells but why would anyone who has not bought yet, buy at "face value"?

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00077993 = 4.8356 BTC [+]

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yeah, pretty much. the reduced price is a marketing gimmick

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it's actually the real price

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oldest trick in the book!

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Apocalyptic

pretty much

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so they'll obviously fail at their IPO unless they someone manipulate it

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Apocalyptic

old car salesman trick

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should have done it on Black Friday!

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what's next? try again with a lower target?

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I think they already stated what would happen actually

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why are they even going public?

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if they're so profitable wouldn't it make more sence to keep the profits for themselves?

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they're only selling a little. so not much change in profits, but new capital to do stuff (what?)

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exaktly

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its not like they need money for R&D

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unless R&D means Roulette & Drugs

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00368 = 0.2061 BTC [-]

07:55

maybe they want to buy that tower they were referring to in the thread

07:59

http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-as-replacement-for-the-electoral-system/

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Bitcoin as replacement for the electoral system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

08:00

perhaps I should run Trilema TL;DR edition

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and I'd charge twice as much

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go for it.

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 180 @ 0.00066 = 0.1188 BTC [+]

~ 30 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1476 @ 0.00010475 = 0.1546 BTC [-] {3}

08:47

"He's just a running dog of the chauvinist male pigs that's all." some hardcore privilege checking action

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1199 @ 0.00010097 = 0.1211 BTC [-] {3}

08:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8785 @ 0.00078032 = 6.8551 BTC [+] {2}

09:04

BigBitz

anyone in here have contact with goat ?

09:05

BigBitz

Other than on forums, of course... to verify the forum goat is reall him :)

09:06

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00399778 = 0.4957 BTC [+] {5}

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ooh that Hodor! bet would have been fun :(

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not mine, but I wonder who made it

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.46949999 = 1.4085 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.46999999 = 3.76 BTC [+] {2}

09:19

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4477 @ 0.0007794 = 3.4894 BTC [-] {2}

~ 26 minutes ~

09:45

kleinessteak

h

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2202 @ 0.00404058 = 8.8974 BTC [+] {9}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.47 = 10.34 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.0044 = 0.1628 BTC [+]

09:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 163 @ 0.00449156 = 0.7321 BTC [+] {5}

09:56

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47 = 2.35 BTC [+]

10:04

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 196 @ 0.00404 = 0.7918 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.002 = 0.3 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 180 @ 0.00400001 = 0.72 BTC [-] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.47 = 4.23 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 299 @ 0.00442929 = 1.3244 BTC [+] {3}

10:21

;;ticker

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MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 831.005, Best ask: 834.99999, Bid-ask spread: 3.99499, Last trade: 834.99999, 24 hour volume: 27334.44247041, 24 hour low: 750.0, 24 hour high: 889.99999, 24 hour vwap: 819.62287

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;;bc,stats

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10:28

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.47496666 = 2.8498 BTC [+] {3}

10:30

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.48194432 = 8.675 BTC [+] {4}

10:32

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.47 = 2.82 BTC [-]

10:33

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2623 @ 0.00012298 = 0.3226 BTC [+] {2}

10:34

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 135 @ 0.54107369 = 73.0449 BTC [+] {10}

10:34

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0045 = 0.1125 BTC [+]

10:37

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 121 @ 0.00474601 = 0.5743 BTC [+] {4}

10:40

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.548 BTC [+]

10:41

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5499 BTC [+]

10:48

hi

10:51

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00077997 = 3.3149 BTC [+]

10:57

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00479672 = 0.2878 BTC [+] {3}

~ 22 minutes ~

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00066 = 0.66 BTC [+]

11:20

^ a bit more lethargic this round

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00066 = 0.33 BTC [+]

11:24

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 900 @ 0.00066 = 0.594 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]

11:25

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00425 = 0.4548 BTC [+]

11:26

[MPEX] [S.MG] 10000 @ 0.00011 = 1.1 BTC [-]

~ 28 minutes ~

11:54

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 184 @ 0.00469986 = 0.8648 BTC [+] {5}

11:55

http://thecommonsenseshow.com/siteupload/2013/11/school-lunch-fine-10.jpg

11:55

lol canada.

11:56

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 31 @ 0.00479979 = 0.1488 BTC [+] {2}

11:58

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 108 @ 0.00479998 = 0.5184 BTC [+] {4}

11:59

wth lol

11:59

"missing food group?" "Fine the sonsofbitches!"

12:01

it's like... i'ma fine the center $150 because i don't approve of their off-comic sans font.

12:01

according to licensing guidelines i have to do this, sorry.

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haha

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check or blowjobs ?

12:02

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54595 BTC [+]

12:02

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/11/19/obamas-disdain-for-the-constitution-means-we-risk-losing-our-republic/

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Obama's Disdain For The Constitution Means We Risk Losing Our Republic - Forbes

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look at forbes go lol

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00427 = 0.4142 BTC [-]

12:04

and for that matter, "A Republican Party That Can't Win Vs. A Democratic Party That Can't Govern"

12:04

quite fucking apt.

12:04

mircea_popescu: the true lel is that the school thinks Ritz crackers are a "grain item"

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 981 @ 0.002089 = 2.0493 BTC [+]

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omg

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.22699435 = 0.681 BTC [+] {2}

12:07

"your child didn't have a grain item so we charged you $10 and fed them a couple of salty, buttery snack crackers"

12:07

"If the President persists in rejecting all authority other than his own, the denouement would depend on the side taken by the Armed Forces. Whatever side that was, our national self-esteem would be unlikely to recover from the blow of finding that we are living in a banana republic."

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i love the "if"

12:08

baby, you've been living in a banana republic for at least a decade.

12:08

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.04557994 = 1.1395 BTC [-]

12:09

asciilifeform

'orlov's stage 3. political collapse.'

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15 years nao

12:09

deadweasel i count with the patriot, personally.

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the patriot?

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Patriot_promo_poster.jpg

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i don't think he can count...

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that's why he has to do it with someone else

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ah, mp doing some service work. good on ya.

12:13

deadweasel the patriot act, 2001

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.22699436 = 1.589 BTC [+]

12:13

the godforsaken patriot act... how they were able to keep it going is amazing....

12:13

AMAZING COMPANY!

12:14

myeah.

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well, it surprised me. i thought our reps had some backbone left.

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they don't

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i tell you tho, i know of no country that is quite as entertaining.

12:16

the us is doing a lot to keep me amused.

12:16

when laws are arbitrarily enforced, there is no rule of law.

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such selective enforcement is tyranny

12:17

that was a racist thjing to say.

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and i think also sexually harassing.

12:17

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

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that's a point.

12:19

forbes has an excellent point : it fully depends on which side the army falls on.

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so yeah, even if rescued, it'll still be a banana republic.

12:20

mod6 you free for a minute I"ve been meaning to ask you about bitotter

12:20

sure, pm if you wish

12:28

[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001249 = 0.1249 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3139 @ 0.0001248 = 0.3917 BTC [-]

12:43

http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/

12:43

Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

12:43

the quote is, Seems likely at $32 people will worry that higher might be just a bubble

12:43

this happened. this year.

12:43

i wouldn't believe it if i hadn't lived it.

12:46

"This impasse has a few possible solutions.

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One of them is that consumers yield and submit, Bitcoin goes to somewhere in the thousand dollars per range and theres a rush to move society away from the dysfunctional standard. Banks start taking Bitcoin deposits, Bitcoin hedge funds pop up everywhere, the FED chairman, ECB chairman and everyone else come to Timisoara whenever they want to make a move to obtain my blessing and so forth."

12:46

ha!

12:52

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.09999999 = 0.9 BTC [+] {2}

12:53

[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.09999999 = 0.2 BTC [+]

12:53

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00469999 = 0.235 BTC [-] {2}

12:55

mircea hope you are aware how this sounds

12:55

hmm... chauvy ?

12:57

heh something like that

12:59

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00469999 = 0.188 BTC [-]

12:59

ya well.

13:04

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0047 = 0.4935 BTC [+]

13:05

[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.0047 = 0.2115 BTC [+]

13:11

http://www.flickr.com/photos/drbarclay/11003771625/

13:11

Does anyone understand this? | Flickr - Photo Sharing

13:11

brutal

13:12

i mean, aside from the fact that john mellencamp and meg ryan are inexplicably christening a city park here

13:13

wow theyre old

13:13

how the fuck do you get something like that sentence to print without anyone pointing out the many obvious mistakes in kerning, spelling, hyphen use, and spacing?

13:13

" Thank-you St John's."

13:13

three mistakes in the first sentence, and it's only four fucking words

13:14

ah, the Garden of M emories

13:14

it's like they deliberately chose a broken font where the lower-case e is off center

13:15

oh and the overlap on the left side of the quote too

13:15

i have to stop looking

13:17

<nubbins`> three mistakes in the first sentence, and it's only four fucking words << you fucking naxi.

13:18

inorite?

13:18

designer was obv a snowflake

13:21

http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-11-23/article-3498958/Castle-owner-feeling-cramped/1

13:21

Castle owner feeling cramped - Local - The Telegram

13:27

[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.22698892 BTC [-]

13:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00078346 = 9.6757 BTC [+] {2}

13:36

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [-]

13:38

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00209 = 0.418 BTC [+] {2}

13:51

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00209374 = 2.0937 BTC [+] {2}

13:51

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00078401 = 4.3513 BTC [+]

13:57

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.0020938 = 0.134 BTC [+]

14:12

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.481 BTC [-]

14:25

mircea_popescu: I've been browsing your blog and I found something to be quoted: "...This will be maintained and frequently linked as a permanent reminder to people of the cause of their own relative lack of success : it is their lack of discipline and their laziness that keeps them small and insignificant. It certainly is not lack of opportunity that keeps them small and insignificant." Thank you so much for that!

14:25

lol yw

14:26

iirc that was like 10 btc prize or somesuch

14:26

There is alot of wisdom scattered on your blog

14:26

I've got this strange urge to become your pupil

14:26

Together we can shake the balance of the world

14:27

you gotta be a girl, and into anal.

14:27

but I am lazy and insignificant

14:27

every girl is into anal, secretly

14:27

ikr?

14:28

just waiting for my trip to end

14:29

heh

14:29

i submitted like 3 splash screen designs to that

14:29

Apocalyptic

tulak_, you're right for the quote, memorable

14:30

Fits me so well

14:30

TBF i was mostly taking the piss out of it at that point :(

14:30

my lack of discipline will lead to my death eventually

14:31

well if that doesn't, something else will

14:32

lets hope not

14:32

with the help of this channel, I will try to fix myself

14:33

oh god

14:33

http://www.phrases.org.uk/images/abandon-all-hope-ye-who-enter-here.jpg

14:33

that's you in the white

14:33

is that sodom and gomorra

14:34

abandon all hope

14:34

right

14:40

meh

14:40

why do developers hate other languages and put their favorite language on a fuckin shelf

14:41

because the hardest thing to do is change

14:41

and because some languages are literally pieces of shit

14:44

why do people hate french

14:44

nubbins`: do you refer to php? :D

14:48

mircea_popescu: je ne sais pas

14:49

parce-que c'est une langue avec trop de particularites? :(

14:49

altho as a native english speaker, that's a pretty cheeky response

14:50

ah, parle francais maintenant

14:52

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2311 @ 0.00078276 = 1.809 BTC [-]

14:58

i also generally dislike languages with gendered nouns, although there are exceptions to this

14:58

french is just a perfect storm of gendered nouns and "take a guess!" pronunciation

14:59

well I was referring to programming languages

14:59

but french is just well

14:59

accents n stuff

14:59

nubbins` you kidding, all languages worth speaking use declension

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it's teh way of teh latin

15:00

yeah, because it matters if the book is a boy or a girl

15:01

it does!

15:01

anyway it's just the gendering of nouns that gets me

15:01

otherwise declension is great

15:01

for instance cock is feminine!

15:01

korean, you hardly need to even order your words

15:01

you can just say them all in whatever order you want

15:02

in practice, people don't, because thats retarded

15:02

but it's all suffixes

15:02

but korean is an even more fringe case than french

15:03

3 modes of speech

15:03

many words change based on whether the speaker (not the subject or object) is male or female

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etc

15:04

this might sound off

15:04

well. forget about it

15:05

nubbins`: the last thing is the case in czech, slovak, russian, etc.

15:06

I was being a retard with bitbet

15:06

now I lost 0.009 btc, better open up a thread on bitcointalk and start bitching

15:06

bummer

15:06

jurov, russian doesn't use articles either iirc

15:06

jurov` yep, can't say "i've been raped" until you specify whether you were married, how tall you were, if it was cold outside and so on

15:07

very practical languages, these slavic things :D

15:07

how tall you were at the time of the incident!

15:07

korean writing system is top-notch tho

15:07

as far as romance languages go, spanish (as spoken in this hemisphere) is pretty good

15:08

predictable pronunciation

15:08

take the french word "ennuyeux". what a fucking train wreck

15:08

ORDINATEUR

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i cannot say ordinateur without making a face like a follower of dschinghis khan

15:09

nubbins` what's the problem with ennuyeux ?

15:09

replace the i in ennui with yeux and you're done

15:10

it looks and sounds like two different piles of shit is the problem

15:10

yeux is no better

15:10

hereux

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most of the x ones

15:10

yeux is it's own thing.

15:10

not related to the rest of euxes.

15:10

creme glacee des yeux!

15:11

^ the day i heard this was the day i realized puns don't translate

15:12

well it's eye icecream

15:12

eyes cream!

15:12

mno, glacee makes it be icecream

15:12

http://electrozombies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/eyes_cream.jpg

15:12

well that's because puns don't translate

15:12

and while "eyes cream" is punny

15:12

"ice cream of eyes" is certainly not

15:13

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/249/5/2/eyes_cream_by_cuboidal-d5du6d1.png

15:13

(seriously, eyes cream is like a halloween staple for english kids)

15:15

anyway, i'm glad i know some french. not because of its inherent beauty or anything, but because it's a useful skill

15:18

so much for fixing themselves.

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1586 @ 0.0001248 = 0.1979 BTC [-]

15:24

What the hell does this have to do with aerobics? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRerwXWTRjM

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0001249 = 0.2498 BTC [+]

15:30

hahahahha

15:36

if you ever want to tell someone how many men you were robbed by, that video is a great start

15:36

I was wobbed by two men.

15:47

For I have returned

15:48

A proper Sith has to build him a power structure. But where shall I begin?

15:48

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 247 @ 0.002 = 0.494 BTC [-] {2}

15:50

Sir mircea_popescu, are you still available for counseling?

15:51

say wut ?

15:52

dude

15:52

I come here because MPOE-PR said you can learn stuff in here

15:52

in contrast to bitcointalk

15:52

where u learn nix

15:53

so learn.

15:54

Diablo-D3

;;ticker

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 273 @ 0.002 = 0.546 BTC [-] {2}

15:56

this isn't school where wisdom is imparted from above

15:56

either lurk moar or try seriously figuring out what to do with your life and discuss

15:57

but take into account life is a mess and have fun

15:58

tulak you can try the logs too in order to catch up

16:01

jurov`: discuss my life in this very chat?

16:01

no, your projects suffice :)

16:01

yes, oversharing is my job.

16:02

That's the sad aprt.

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part*

16:02

I lack any real projects, thats why I ran headfirst into java again

16:03

I want to become proficient with coding

16:03

contribute to a project?

16:03

i started by adopting an opensource project..after you learn some coding find some small project you like

16:03

doing this for a start: https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/javaee/ecommerce/intro.html

16:06

you may consider http://landoflisp.com/, too. i found it only recently but it's delightful

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and all languages share similar primitives like lisp

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[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.03910001 = 0.4692 BTC [-]

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i don't mean to detract you from java, you can try both ;)

16:09

*should

16:09

I'm happy for any advice

16:09

I have a c++, java, php background, but did most of my stuff in php. a thing I regret now

16:10

well you can't really call it a background ,because of my lack of discipline

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& never finished something big

16:10

Error: "never" is not a valid command.

16:10

no need to bash yourself, 10 years ago i did not have a discipline even for proper fkn hacking

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so got an admin job, they sat me right next to toilet

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:D

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and over years, i kinda learned

16:11

i'm at university

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so I have plenty of time to dive into languages

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and yet I play computergames most of the time ^^

16:13

so what. linus did that too

16:13

then he took on improving his terminal emulator

16:14

and here we are, glorified terminal emulator running all the stuff

16:14

i'

16:14

i'm not looking for excuses

16:15

I just want to be useful and earn money (someday)

16:15

so, next time something bugs you sink your teeth in and fix it. that's all.

16:16

fixing things gets addictive

16:18

merge that fun with money and bam

16:18

what a sweet combo

16:18

well I'm stuck in a loophole

16:18

why

16:19

read about a good programming language, try it out. read about someone bashing said language, try a new language, do basic stuff, read about another language try that out. so far i have tried, ruby, php, scala, javascript, java, c++. i keep on switching, cannot settle down with one lol

16:20

you needs a project before you need a language?

16:20

true

16:20

if the project doesn't drive you, the language won't

16:21

yes, do the fixing then, not easy to switch

16:21

fix my nix

16:21

although, people do try rewrite stuff all the time... but eventually they learn

16:21

they are paying for bugfixes now aren't they?

16:22

who?

16:22

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CEwQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fnews%2Fgoogle-bug-bounty-security-chrome%2C14686.html&ei=lhyRUtfHIs3rkAePpoCgBw&usg=AFQjCNGH-g53p5GJoBgbIhKvS9TSZRMNhw&sig2=Ya7z8GnnvzdkqWjdyq0vBg&bvm=bv.56988011,d.eW0

16:23

srsly, sending noob programmer to fix bugs in chrome?

16:23

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/19/microsoft-finally-offers-to-pay-hackers-for-security-bugs-with-100000-bounty/

16:23

Microsoft Finally Offers To Pay Hackers For Security Bugs With $100,000 Bounty - Forbes

16:24

start easy

16:24

I will gnaw through this java ee tutorial first i guess

16:24

I want to do webstuff after all

16:26

man im confused

16:27

i'd recommend something simpler (such as that lisp i mentioned above), j2ee is mishmash of technologies, not easy to comprehend

16:30

you cant go wrong with c dude..

16:31

should be a great foundation

16:31

but c is only console stuff :/

16:31

well to me it is

16:32

never done more than console stuff :( calculate loans etc :D

16:33

and this is a problem?

16:34

you are right

16:34

there is no problem with that

16:34

http://c.learncodethehardway.org/book/

16:34

Learn C The Hard Way

16:35

I'm just awfully confused what I want to do with coding in the future

16:35

i was limited to webdesign until now

16:38

and I think that is part of my problem now

16:38

what kind of webdesign? actually doing layout in CSS?

16:40

more backend stuff

16:40

but I'm a shithole and securing my webapplications

16:40

at*

16:41

im browsing c++ repositories on github right now

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00471998 = 0.1133 BTC [+]

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jurov`: thanks for your support until now

17:04

jurov`: i think I will do basic stuff in c and look for a project to contribute to

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.00209299 = 0.1737 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0001249 = 0.1249 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00450344 = 0.1531 BTC [-] {4}

17:14

so what can I do for the "BFL will ship before ActiveMining" bet? make it last longer? I agree that the draw result would be boring, but defaulting to Yes or No is worse

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.481 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00471998 = 0.1605 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00209299 = 0.2093 BTC [+] {2}

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.16200013 = 0.972 BTC [-] {4}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 34 @ 0.45552764 = 15.4879 BTC [-] {13}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.45000005 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.16200013 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 200 @ 0.00066 = 0.132 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.0045 = 0.243 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 200 @ 0.00066 = 0.132 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00435 = 0.1827 BTC [-] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.16200012 = 0.648 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.00427392 = 0.983 BTC [-] {4}

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 600 @ 0.00066 = 0.396 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 446 @ 0.00418696 = 1.8674 BTC [-] {10}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00410565 = 0.5337 BTC [-] {4}

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 238 @ 0.00400063 = 0.9521 BTC [-] {4}

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.16200004 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00209255 = 0.293 BTC [-] {3}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00078359 = 3.2127 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.004 = 0.196 BTC [-]

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 241 @ 0.00066 = 0.1591 BTC [+]

18:07

well

18:07

channel not so active much

18:07

then you should go read the logs if you want to learn more- just a tip

18:07

ppls appreciate when you do your homework when it comes time for a question-

18:07

i'm frequently browsing the logs

18:07

and you can google search the logs

18:08

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00066 = 0.99 BTC [+]

18:08

chatting is fun, though

18:08

yeh

18:08

reading pankkake on bitcointalk is fun

18:08

<- blasting public enemy 'harder than you think'

18:08

hehe

18:08

im serious

18:08

FYI it's the start of the night in europe, though weird sleep schedules seem popular

18:09

im in europe

18:09

do you suggest I go to bed

18:09

nice, you're part of the best

18:09

not really

18:10

my country's history is dragging me down

18:10

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 960 @ 0.00066 = 0.6336 BTC [+] {2}

18:10

how's that

18:13

pankkake said im part of the best

18:13

but 99% of the world tells me im a nazi :o

18:15

german?

18:15

austrian?

18:15

hehe

18:15

exactly

18:15

he wasnt even german to start with :d

18:15

austrians are better. they have economics

18:15

and hills

18:15

jurov`: I ditched java ee

18:16

I wish I learned german instead of spanish

18:16

and I forgot everything about spanish anyway

18:17

tulak_: most of the world thinks shit about eastern europeans, too

18:17

jurov`: I got alot of eastern european relatives, so thats a no for me

18:17

such as, whole southern america thinks we literally stink

18:17

:D

18:18

maybe we do, dunno

18:19

not giving a fuck

18:19

I don't know why there is a stereotype about French smelling bad

18:19

not shaved armpits = stink

18:20

lol we have that about germans

18:20

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.035101 = 0.351 BTC [-] {2}

18:20

I never met a girl that wasn't shaving

18:21

but really the smelly people I encounter are mostly tourists and the homeless

18:21

homeless / crazy people are great

18:21

always something to say

18:21

yeah. I missed one homeless woman I used to walk by every day

18:21

she awesome conspiracy theories

18:21

had

18:22

I need a IRC client

18:22

tired of chatting on a webchat :o

18:22

[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.0351 = 0.351 BTC [-]

18:22

I don't even know what's good these days (well I use irssi but you might not want to start with that)

18:22

X-Chat? still a thing?

18:22

shrug

18:23

i use colloquy

18:23

nowadays the people I encounter talking to themselves are iPhone owners

18:23

but that was more a google.ca / "osx irc" / "i'm feeling lucky" kind of decision

18:23

I remember the name. but yeah, for mac, bleh

18:23

not a particularly great client

18:24

i suppose if you wanted to be difficult you could find a command-line client

18:24

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 155 @ 0.00066 = 0.1023 BTC [+] {2}

18:24

besides X-Chat I've seen people use http://quassel-irc.org/

18:25

i settled at Konversation.. but then i got to cooperate with people who want me to use otr

18:25

im windows btw

18:25

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.002092 = 0.1527 BTC [-]

18:25

so i'm out ion search for other client that doesn't suck :(

18:25

tulak, bummer

18:25

i know

18:26

windows xchat works decently enough

18:26

well irssi supports OTR, but it might not be what you're looking for

18:27

i hate the guts of it

18:27

:D

18:27

weechat has a more modern feel and better defaults

18:27

whole thing drove me to this: https://github.com/rufoa/znc-otr/issues/1

18:28

^ if anyone knows about otr and want some coin

18:28

it would actually be a good idea to implement it on that side

18:29

oh great

18:29

Tulak-

and no

18:29

[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2500 @ 0.00066 = 1.65 BTC [+]

18:29

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.002093 = 0.1402 BTC [+]

18:29

Tulak-

w

18:30

black cardstock is difficult to find

18:39

[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.4516667 = 5.42 BTC [+] {3}

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[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.0020929 = 0.4144 BTC [+]

19:10

;;ticker

19:10

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19:11

truffles

very stable

19:16

[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00202 = 0.101 BTC [-] {2}

19:22

well

19:22

im off to bed

19:22

thanks to you guys, I got a goal ahead of me

19:22

slaapje

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19:39

Diablo-D3

;;ticker

19:39

MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 832.37189, Best ask: 838.96, Bid-ask spread: 6.58811, Last trade: 832.001, 24 hour volume: 20666.93332429, 24 hour low: 804.92767, 24 hour high: 889.99999, 24 hour vwap: 840.98808

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[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 450 @ 0.00066 = 0.297 BTC [+]

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[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16200004 = 0.324 BTC [-]

20:06

What’s funny is that it doesn’t have a prayer, the battle’s already won. They may not know it yet, much like cartoon characters spend sometimes a second after being obliterated in their original form before collapsing in a pile of shards. << this

20:06

http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-as-replacement-for-the-electoral-system/

20:06

Bitcoin as replacement for the electoral system pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

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