00:00 |
benkay |
1% on what, btc? |
00:00 |
benkay |
sounds greedy to me. |
00:01 |
uhh |
then PIF is probably a good choice for you |
00:03 |
benkay |
heck yea |
00:03 |
benkay |
;;ud piff |
00:03 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piff | superior to the average. Also a potent strain of weed/canibus of purple color. |
00:03 |
ozbot |
Urban Dictionary: piff |
00:04 |
uhh |
haha also not bad |
00:04 |
benkay |
on an entirely different topic |
00:04 |
benkay |
http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/m/pub-archive/176h/0176%20(Havelund).pdf |
00:05 |
benkay |
when will the scientific community release papers that display well on computer screens oriented normally? |
00:07 |
aaaaasss |
hey |
00:07 |
uhh |
what do you have in mind? 4 columns? |
00:08 |
benkay |
i have in mind hiring a designer |
00:10 |
nubbins` |
you know that's meant for print, right? |
00:12 |
uhh |
only because you are a printing guy doesn't give you the right to promote old school technology. who uses paper these days? |
00:13 |
benkay |
i was under the impression these humans were trying to communicate |
00:13 |
uhh |
.bait |
00:13 |
ozbot |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcezhjr7lm1r09wbpo1_500.jpg |
00:14 |
benkay |
mmm. |
00:14 |
benkay |
moar tattoos. |
00:14 |
nubbins` |
if they wanted you to not print it, they wouldn't have made it a pdf |
00:14 |
benkay |
what these academics (along with many others) want or even "think" is irrelevant |
00:15 |
nubbins` |
and yet here you are, forced to live with their decisions |
00:15 |
nubbins` |
funny, that |
00:15 |
benkay |
"forced" |
00:15 |
benkay |
funny, that |
00:16 |
nubbins` |
unless you have the option to read these papers in a format that's a good fit for your screen? |
00:17 |
uhh |
maybe we shouldn't pitchfork the printing guys and scientists, but adobe. |
00:18 |
benkay |
i have the option |
00:18 |
benkay |
don't much care to derp through it |
00:18 |
nubbins` |
what |
00:18 |
nubbins` |
'd adobe do wrong? |
00:19 |
nubbins` |
(i know, that's a really open-ended question) |
00:19 |
nubbins` |
but pdf is great |
00:20 |
uhh |
i'd say they do have an influence on how pdfs are presented on a computer screen |
00:20 |
nubbins` |
i'd say the creator of the document specified the exact dimensions of the page |
00:21 |
nubbins` |
and, in fact, had complete control over the presentation of the content |
00:21 |
nubbins` |
because that's what pdf is for :( |
00:21 |
benkay |
we're definitely out of my domain here |
00:21 |
mike_c |
they created it like that out of habit, not out of a thought-out decision as to what would be best these days. |
00:21 |
benkay |
leastaways i haven't touched this derpy shit since high school |
00:22 |
benkay |
but we could start with absolute positioning of letters |
00:22 |
nubbins` |
there's no better way for me to guarantee that if i send you a document, it'll look exactly the same to you as it does to me |
00:22 |
benkay |
a thing about which i give zero shits |
00:22 |
nubbins` |
lel |
00:22 |
benkay |
can i get that info into my brain in a more pleasantly formatted way? |
00:22 |
benkay |
it's this whole idea of ideas as opposed to aesthetics |
00:23 |
benkay |
you have this amusing hangup on aesthetics |
00:23 |
nubbins` |
you're fucked |
00:23 |
benkay |
now don't get me wrong, they're important |
00:23 |
nubbins` |
a pdf looks the same on every system |
00:23 |
nubbins` |
what else are you gonna send, a .doc? |
00:23 |
benkay |
at least that preserves the notion of a character stream |
00:23 |
nubbins` |
oh, whoops, you don't have the right fonts or they're drawn differently or your page margins are different, etc |
00:24 |
nubbins` |
you're missing the point |
00:24 |
uhh |
now i see why my last statement was kinda stupid |
00:24 |
benkay |
("you're fucked" - erudite as always) |
00:24 |
nubbins` |
obstinate as always! |
00:24 |
benkay |
do illuminate me. |
00:25 |
nubbins` |
there are many, many occasions in this world where it's important that the recipient of the document be shown the exact thing that the sender intended |
00:25 |
benkay |
oh and don't get me wrong, aesthetics are important |
00:25 |
nubbins` |
it's not a question of aesthetics |
00:25 |
benkay |
it's how my firm makes our bread |
00:25 |
nubbins` |
it's a question of presenting information in a standard way |
00:26 |
benkay |
presenting images, i'd amend. |
00:26 |
nubbins` |
not exclusively |
00:26 |
benkay |
the information is clearly taking it up the tuchus in the .pdf "format" |
00:26 |
nubbins` |
the information is presented exactly how the creator of the pdf intended |
00:27 |
nubbins` |
if he intended to make a shit-looking document, well, too bad |
00:27 |
benkay |
the creator of that pdf didn't give two shits about any presentation beyond getting it printed and validated by the american idiot community of "scientists" |
00:27 |
nubbins` |
okay, so? |
00:28 |
benkay |
information clearly taking a backseat to arbitrary presentation guidelines written by an obsolete industry. |
00:28 |
nubbins` |
you're trying to generalize a specific case |
00:28 |
benkay |
my complaint was about a specific case |
00:28 |
nubbins` |
presentation guidelines, etc |
00:28 |
benkay |
where's my damn character stream. |
00:29 |
benkay |
embedded in some fucking layer in that monstrosity of a transmission? |
00:29 |
benkay |
i see why you left IT |
00:29 |
benkay |
you get neither information nor technology |
00:29 |
nubbins` |
creator of the doc obv didn't give a fuck how it looked on a computer screen |
00:29 |
nubbins` |
why would he? |
00:29 |
nubbins` |
it was probably being sent to a journal to be published |
00:30 |
nubbins` |
not posted on his blog |
00:30 |
nubbins` |
i doubt he gives a red fuck how it looks on a computer screen, and why should he? |
00:31 |
nubbins` |
all i see is wailing that something's not in your preferred form, like your chicken nuggets were cut up before mom put them on your plate and now you won't eat them |
00:31 |
nubbins` |
"where's my damn character stream" |
| |
↖ |
00:31 |
nubbins` |
lel |
00:31 |
benkay |
it was perfectly acceptable chicken to begin with |
00:31 |
benkay |
why subject it to this ammonia |
00:31 |
nubbins` |
you're like an old man in a lineup |
00:32 |
nubbins` |
stomping and huffing |
00:32 |
nubbins` |
"why didn't this scientist realize i only read things on my computer!" |
00:32 |
nubbins` |
seriously though, keep it up. people will eventually come around |
00:35 |
benkay |
"why didn't this scientist realize i only read things on my computer! (sic)" |
00:35 |
benkay |
well because scientists generally care about behavior at the limit |
00:35 |
benkay |
a calculus thing |
00:36 |
benkay |
if i contribute to the demise of print in any way it'll have been a good day's work |
00:36 |
nubbins` |
if you contribute to anything in any way it'll have been a surprise to all |
00:37 |
nubbins` |
anyway, the document is in two skinny columns because skinny columns are easier to read. |
00:37 |
nubbins` |
that's why, y'know, newspapers and magazines and scientific journals use them |
00:37 |
benkay |
not objecting to columns |
00:38 |
benkay |
those make a modicum of sense |
00:38 |
nubbins` |
so literally just the fact that it's not a plain text doc? |
00:39 |
benkay |
nah |
00:39 |
benkay |
just getting a rise out of you |
00:39 |
benkay |
print |
00:39 |
benkay |
almost too easy |
00:40 |
nubbins` |
uh huh |
00:40 |
benkay |
night nubs |
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01:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.718899 BTC [-] |
01:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7188995 = 1.4378 BTC [+] {2} |
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01:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-] |
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02:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9081 @ 0.00087277 = 7.9256 BTC [-] {2} |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
02:37 |
Ademan |
Does anyone know what the current status of bASIC-MINING is? As best I can tell from the bitcointalk thread, the operator is totally MIA. |
02:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7199999 BTC [+] |
02:40 |
mircea_popescu |
Ademan http://trilema.com/2013/whats-a-sperglord/ |
02:40 |
mircea_popescu |
but that's pretty much it, totally mia. |
02:40 |
Ademan |
I don't deny being an aspie, but did you mean creativex is an aspie or me? |
02:41 |
mircea_popescu |
tom van dyke |
02:41 |
mircea_popescu |
(the basic guy) |
02:41 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what were you asking wasn't it ? |
02:42 |
Ademan |
ah, yeah indeed |
02:42 |
Ademan |
Well, the bitcointalk thread claims he's "Eric Corlew" |
02:42 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell benkay well i can't explain why x thing isn't y thing. why do you think it is in the first place ? |
02:42 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
02:43 |
mircea_popescu |
Ademan ya well, who's who in the bitcoin scamspace is always an iffy proposition. |
02:43 |
mircea_popescu |
this is why people invest on mpex rather than fucking themselves over on the play-pretend "alternatives". |
02:44 |
Ademan |
mircea_popescu: can you give me a full disclosure on that statement? ;-) |
02:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i run mpex. |
02:44 |
Ademan |
was joke, attempted joke anyways |
02:44 |
mircea_popescu |
o. lol. |
02:45 |
mircea_popescu |
sorry sir, we here at internet house are proud to say no joke. |
02:45 |
mircea_popescu |
no joke at all. |
02:45 |
Ademan |
haha |
02:46 |
Ademan |
from a purely marketing standpoint, have you ever considered throwing a stylesheet on there? |
02:48 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
02:48 |
mircea_popescu |
in the same way a four star michelin restaurateur has from a purely marketing standpoint considered throwing a drive-in in there. |
02:48 |
mircea_popescu |
mostly to go "hahahahahaha-hahahahaha" |
02:49 |
Ademan |
lol somehow I knew that was a dangerous question to ask |
02:51 |
mircea_popescu |
no but seriously, most interaction with mpex is programatical. |
02:51 |
mircea_popescu |
the last thing people want is more cruft. |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake no, actually, it's about half a dozen people, mostly engaged in an all out war with the "press" establishment of teh english speaking computing world. |
02:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: a decentralized SR would live still. etc <<< it couldn't possibly, in that it'd have been made by the guy that hired his cocaine buyers to kill his cocaine curiers. |
02:56 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell benkay: so "authorized float" means "that as what we sold at ipo", or pre-ipo as described on cryptome << no, it means the total # of shares actually having been issued. this starts as that which was sold at ipo, increases every time someone executes a stock warrant and every time the company issues more shares. |
02:56 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
02:57 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: up to the 1e8 limit << actually mpex is on 64 bit systems, there's no 1e8 limit. iirc it's 1e42 or something |
02:57 |
Ademan |
mircea_popescu: 30 BTC is steep as hell, is there anything against pooling and/or "reselling" access? |
02:57 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. jurov runs a full service broker |
02:57 |
mircea_popescu |
with css. |
02:57 |
mircea_popescu |
other people do the same thing privately. which is how exchanges fucking work in the first place. |
02:59 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov : "(b) No Such lAbs solemnly promises and warrants never to issue more shares on any other venue" ; "nor in any way to fraudulently dilute existing shareholders at any point in the future". separate clauses. |
03:01 |
Ademan |
lol it's practically a boilerplate tg2 site |
03:04 |
mircea_popescu |
TeleGiornale 2 ? |
03:05 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
03:05 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.1, Best ask: 342.9311, Bid-ask spread: 1.83110, Last trade: 341.1, 24 hour volume: 71989.74982744, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 345.56628 |
03:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.0065402 = 0.1373 BTC [+] |
03:11 |
Ademan |
transgender2, it's the second level |
03:11 |
Ademan |
buh uh, turbogears 2, was a neat python web application framework |
03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
o |
03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
coinbr you mean ? |
03:15 |
mircea_popescu |
or nsa ? |
03:16 |
Ademan |
coinbr |
03:16 |
Ademan |
the NSA might be transgender, I dunno |
03:16 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
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03:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.72848571 = 5.0994 BTC [+] {2} |
03:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00654525 = 0.7854 BTC [+] {2} |
03:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7299 = 2.1897 BTC [+] |
04:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6000 @ 0.00012 = 0.72 BTC [-] {4} |
04:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7299 = 1.4598 BTC [+] |
04:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1678 @ 0.00011959 = 0.2007 BTC [-] {2} |
04:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.7299 = 2.9196 BTC [+] |
04:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.732 = 4.392 BTC [+] |
04:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7324 = 2.1972 BTC [+] |
04:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00087576 = 8.3635 BTC [+] {3} |
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04:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.0065499 = 0.4454 BTC [+] |
04:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00209889 = 0.2099 BTC [+] |
04:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7324 = 1.4648 BTC [+] |
04:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 405 @ 0.00108655 = 0.4401 BTC [+] {2} |
04:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.7324 = 4.3944 BTC [+] |
04:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.7325 = 3.6625 BTC [+] |
05:04 |
mircea_popescu |
http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1027_4_030.jpg |
05:12 |
clamcat |
;;ticker |
05:12 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 340.0, Best ask: 342.97979, Bid-ask spread: 2.97979, Last trade: 342.97981, 24 hour volume: 71027.21107632, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 343.80987 |
05:12 |
clamcat |
Bitstamp down to 307 |
05:13 |
clamcat |
;;market sell 10000 |
05:13 |
gribble |
A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 2926878.0981 USD and would take the last price down to 270.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 292.6878 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 124.7729 seconds |
05:14 |
clamcat |
;;market sell 20000 |
05:14 |
gribble |
A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 5452647.9474 USD and would take the last price down to 230.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 272.6324 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 155.3802 seconds |
05:14 |
clamcat |
;;market buy 10000 |
05:14 |
gribble |
A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 3918593.9166 USD and would take the last price up to 420.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 391.8594 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 174.9046 seconds |
05:14 |
clamcat |
;;market buy 20000 |
05:14 |
gribble |
A market order to buy 20000 bitcoins right now would take 16066080.2504 USD and would take the last price up to 3452.7072 USD, resulting in an average price of 803.3040 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 184.1464 seconds |
05:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00087738 = 3.9482 BTC [+] {2} |
05:28 |
jurov |
<Ademan> [08:01:18] lol it's practically a boilerplate tg2 site << so nice to meet fellow coder :DDD |
05:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73249 = 1.465 BTC [-] |
05:31 |
Diablo-D3 |
;;ticker |
05:31 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 336.99003, Best ask: 337.99997, Bid-ask spread: 1.00994, Last trade: 336.99002, 24 hour volume: 71064.95691229, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 343.56136 |
05:31 |
Diablo-D3 |
booo |
05:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ |
05:36 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Charts / Markets |
05:37 |
mircea_popescu |
seems that data is stale. it's 326 24 hour vwap |
05:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2107 @ 0.00087832 = 1.8506 BTC [+] {2} |
05:50 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu iirc benkays' original question was "aint it stock dilution?" |
05:51 |
jurov |
i'd like to see some hard limit on that in the contract(even if 1e8 shares), too |
05:55 |
jurov |
;;bc,stats |
05:55 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 268812 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 1331 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 15 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 525565264.161 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.86449 |
06:01 |
mircea_popescu |
why ? |
06:02 |
mircea_popescu |
if at time t the stock is worth more than what it's trading for, people should buy it. if they can't buy it, it's not worth more. |
06:02 |
mircea_popescu |
if it's not worth more, issuing more at that price is not dilution. |
06:05 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrZgHBXBKJ0&t=9m45s |
06:09 |
jurov |
i personally don't have big issue with it, we'll see how it will work out. It's much much better that S.DICE was, with evoorhees throwing stuff in randomly without any announce/approval needed |
06:09 |
mircea_popescu |
um. |
06:09 |
mircea_popescu |
s.dice never issued more stock. |
06:12 |
jurov |
yes, but there were huge pools of shares not on the market and arriving all at once, which s.nsa is so far avoiding |
06:14 |
jurov |
and the contract even makes some stipulations about the price |
06:14 |
mircea_popescu |
that's really the empire of the holder. if asciilifeform decides to convert his warrants in a bulk and dump them on the market for instance it'd be similar a result |
06:15 |
mircea_popescu |
afair the major problem with s.dice was that at some point erik arbitrarily decided to reclassify an asset class in his accounting, |
06:15 |
mircea_popescu |
but that only lasted about two days and he backed off. |
06:15 |
mircea_popescu |
so it's only "major" in a theoretical sense, otherwise innocent mistake and all. |
06:17 |
jurov |
seems i should reread the mpex stuff n+1 times :) |
06:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.143 BTC [-] |
06:17 |
jurov |
and include even the listing agreement commentary in my upcoming "missing mpex manual" |
06:19 |
mircea_popescu |
actually someone writing mpex contract commentary and adding together mpex caselaw would provide an infinitely valuable service |
06:19 |
mircea_popescu |
certainly more than all bitcoin foundation ever did in its ignominous history to date. |
06:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00088227 = 7.8963 BTC [+] {2} |
06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
which incidentally inspired a new mpex caption. |
06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
"Welcome to MPExProviding nucleation in the superheated fluid of Bitcoin. Since 2011." |
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06:46 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoincharts has been hacked. |
| |
↖ |
06:46 |
mircea_popescu |
options quoting disabled on mpex. |
06:55 |
kakobrekla |
>On some level I feel your pain. I've long wanted to start a bitcoin-settled version of Intrade (no, bitbets/betsofbitcoin/etc are not even close to being the same thing) and an exchange-cleared market for hashrate futures. But as a US citizen and resident it's illegal for me to do these things for at least a dozen different reasons. |
07:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"chief among them, that i'm a fucktard who shouldn't be even close to doing anything of the sort, as i've clearly proven by the thick cluelessness of the foregoing." |
07:03 |
kakobrekla |
you know who i quoted |
07:03 |
kakobrekla |
? |
07:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea. who did you quote ? |
07:06 |
kakobrekla |
eldentyrell |
07:06 |
mircea_popescu |
works. |
07:14 |
zist |
;;ticker |
07:14 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 338.5, Best ask: 341.9, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 341.9, 24 hour volume: 72059.99145526, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 341.92907 |
07:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.732499 = 2.1975 BTC [+] |
07:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7346 @ 0.00088473 = 6.4992 BTC [+] {2} |
07:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.04998279 = 0.4498 BTC [+] |
07:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00654999 = 0.131 BTC [+] |
07:41 |
firedrops |
lol, idiot in -hidden just sent 2BTC to tor hidden service 'bitcoin laundry'.. |
07:41 |
firedrops |
asking when he's going to rec'd his clean coins.... :) |
07:44 |
kakobrekla |
tell him for next time, ill clean his coins for 50% only, instead of 100% that he is paying now |
07:51 |
Apocalyptic |
I liked BigBitz's answer |
07:51 |
BigBitz |
what answer is that ? |
07:51 |
BigBitz |
Oh that 2BTC guy... Oh man... that's like $700. Brutal. |
07:51 |
Apocalyptic |
<BigBitz> are you mental ? // one must really be to do something like this.. |
07:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4243 @ 0.00088185 = 3.7417 BTC [-] |
07:53 |
BigBitz |
poor guy :( |
07:55 |
mircea_popescu |
2 btc well spent. |
07:56 |
BigBitz |
NOT. |
07:59 |
firedrops |
nobody can take his experience away from him, and it was entertaining, so +1 for well spent. |
08:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.732499 BTC [+] |
08:01 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
08:01 |
mircea_popescu |
some people spend some bitcents and read all of trilema. some people buy some coffeee and read the log of this chan |
08:02 |
mircea_popescu |
some people invest 950 btc in coinlenders and afterwards compliment me on how "prophetic" my gpg contract was. |
08:02 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a free world, everyone gets to the same spot on a path of his own choice. |
08:04 |
BigBitz |
Investing in TradeFortress. lololololol. |
08:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2013/lvm-lsa-i1ownership-1/ < if anyone cares, i'm doing an adnotation of mises' socialism. |
08:10 |
ozbot |
LvM L&Sa - I.1.Ownership (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
08:15 |
zist |
"Paul: He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing" |
08:15 |
mircea_popescu |
yup |
08:16 |
zist |
extra points if you know where that comes from |
08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
it's much older than herbert. |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
it comes, like everything, from the greeks. |
08:19 |
zist |
yes, but taht |
08:19 |
zist |
that's luch less fun |
08:19 |
zist |
arty pooper :) |
08:20 |
zist |
party* |
08:22 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
08:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7325 BTC [+] |
08:25 |
pankkake |
artsy pooper |
08:27 |
zist |
pankkake: please feel free to correct my bad typing too. Tiring of typing twice and adding * |
08:27 |
pankkake |
I realize I make a lot of typos too on IRC |
08:28 |
pankkake |
I shouldn't be so lazy |
08:28 |
pankkake |
or have a client with spellchecking |
08:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00087857 = 2.8202 BTC [-] |
08:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.732499 = 1.465 BTC [-] |
08:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.732499 = 2.93 BTC [-] |
08:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00663577 = 2.6543 BTC [+] {8} |
08:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.70000011 = 2.8 BTC [-] {3} |
08:42 |
kleinessteak |
can someone explain what the {x} means at the end of the assbot msg? |
08:42 |
kakobrekla |
lotto numbers |
08:43 |
kleinessteak |
thnx |
08:43 |
kleinessteak |
:D |
08:43 |
kakobrekla |
yw! |
08:44 |
kleinessteak |
and why is there no msg anymore for trades on bitfunder? |
08:45 |
kakobrekla |
srsly, trades are aggregated over 1 min, when you see {x} it tells you how many trades were merged |
08:45 |
kakobrekla |
buttfunder was never here on #bitcoin-assets |
08:46 |
kleinessteak |
i see, thank you |
08:47 |
kakobrekla |
and if you get anything on the lotto draw, 10% cut seems fari for assbot. |
08:47 |
kakobrekla |
fair* |
| |
~ 37 minutes ~ |
09:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1781 @ 0.00108655 = 1.9351 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
09:44 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: doesn't dilution mean "i had x% of stock base but now after issuance i have >x%"? |
09:44 |
benkay |
x including warrants |
09:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00646151 = 1.2923 BTC [-] {5} |
09:53 |
thestringpuller |
;;seen smickles |
09:53 |
gribble |
smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <smickles> $avg |
10:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00087987 = 5.6312 BTC [+] |
10:09 |
benkay |
ping mircea_popescu |
10:10 |
benkay |
unrelated http://fiatleak.com/ |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay no, dilution means my shares entitled me to x equity now they entitle me to less than x. |
10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
<kakobrekla> buttfunder was never here on #bitcoin-assets << i gotta hand it to you... the old "well if you delay enough the problem may go away" |
10:22 |
kakobrekla |
:) |
10:22 |
pankkake |
I have been very successful at this :/ |
10:23 |
benkay |
so when there are new shares how does the amount of equity i'm entitled to not decrease? |
10:23 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
because new shares are sold for at least as much as your current shares are worth |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
which means equity increases at least at the same rate as the float. |
10:25 |
benkay |
and that btc hits the book as an asset |
10:25 |
benkay |
roger |
10:25 |
benkay |
god i'm phenomenally dumb |
10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
well, the idea that dilution = more shares is somehow very intuitively easy. |
10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not correct, but in order for this point to become important some progress has to be made. |
10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
as far as forum investing is concerned... that first approximation is great really. |
10:27 |
benkay |
it's a product of the SV "investment" model |
10:28 |
mircea_popescu |
sv ? |
10:28 |
benkay |
new shares are issued, new cash hits books, value of existing shares remains stable, but then burn that cash on kegs and giant bags of refined hfcs |
10:28 |
benkay |
silicon valley |
10:29 |
thestringpuller |
bitfunder imploded? |
10:29 |
mircea_popescu |
oh. |
10:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6333 @ 0.00087902 = 5.5668 BTC [-] {2} |
10:29 |
pankkake |
something new? |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay well obviously equity is capital at risk. bad things can happen. ideally the bad things happen as a result of legitimate business ventures rather than beerkegging obviously. |
10:31 |
benkay |
anyways. questions about issuance resolved. tyvm. |
10:31 |
mircea_popescu |
np |
10:36 |
zist |
;;ticker |
10:36 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 307.0, Best ask: 309.99498, Bid-ask spread: 2.99498, Last trade: 307.0, 24 hour volume: 75027.40204515, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 337.535 |
10:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00087812 = 8.0787 BTC [-] |
10:50 |
jo_ |
? |
10:50 |
jo_ |
.pr |
10:51 |
jo_ |
!help |
10:51 |
assbot |
List of commands: |
10:51 |
assbot |
!ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} |
10:51 |
assbot |
!last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} |
10:51 |
assbot |
!mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) |
10:51 |
assbot |
!rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} |
10:51 |
assbot |
!exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} |
10:51 |
assbot |
!jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) |
10:51 |
assbot |
!bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b} |
10:51 |
assbot |
!quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} |
10:51 |
jo_ |
!s.nsa |
10:51 |
jo_ |
!mp |
10:51 |
assbot |
Please use http://dpaste.com/ |
10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
jo_ whatcher tryin;' to do ? |
10:52 |
kakobrekla |
hax ur computah |
10:52 |
mircea_popescu |
o that. |
10:52 |
jo_ |
!last s.nsa |
10:52 |
assbot |
The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. |
10:52 |
jo_ |
!last mpex s.nsa |
10:52 |
assbot |
Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.000235 BTC [+] |
10:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] |
11:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] |
11:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0008771 = 9.4727 BTC [-] |
11:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73449999 BTC [+] |
11:07 |
zist |
;;ticker |
11:07 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 306.2, Best ask: 308.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 306.2, 24 hour volume: 76962.27551906, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 335.05303 |
11:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60000 @ 0.00087253 = 52.3518 BTC [-] {4} |
11:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-] |
11:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00667591 = 0.701 BTC [+] {4} |
11:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1691 @ 0.0066976 = 11.3256 BTC [+] {5} |
11:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.0067 = 0.3953 BTC [+] |
11:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [-] |
11:20 |
zist |
;;ticker |
11:20 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 306.0, Best ask: 306.25001, Bid-ask spread: 0.25001, Last trade: 306.0, 24 hour volume: 78320.52789357, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 334.59426 |
11:21 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: no further takers on the bounty from http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ i guess |
11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` i guess not. the advantage of bitcoin however... |
11:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.72 = 5.76 BTC [-] |
11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1387468/Black-couple-Francis-Arlette-Tshibangu-white-baby-blond-hair.html |
11:24 |
ozbot |
Black couple Francis and Arlette Tshibangu have white baby with blond hair | Mail Online |
11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
white powa! |
11:25 |
mjoiii_ |
L |
11:25 |
nubbins` |
more like daily fail dot co dot uk! |
11:26 |
pankkake |
why is that news? I thought it was a common occurence |
11:26 |
nubbins` |
anyway, the bounty grows in value with each passing day -- you don't see that with fiat |
11:26 |
pankkake |
it's not white, it's black with white skin |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
well they gotta come up with something every day |
11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"When I bent down and kissed him I got a better look at his features and could see he looked just like me and Arlette. He has my nose and my wifes lips." |
11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
that's so crazy. they both have exactly the same noses and lips, those two people. |
11:28 |
pankkake |
don't all blacks look alike? |
11:28 |
nubbins` |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/US_Army_How_To_Spot_A_Jap.png |
11:29 |
pankkake |
there's a game, but I can't find it, where you have to say if the person is korean, japanese, or chinese |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
lel, "or try 'LALAPALOOZA' on them! that's a panic!" |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
pankkake: koreans and japanese are more similar in features as well as in the way their language sounds |
11:31 |
pankkake |
yeah. but now thanks to starcraft I can distinguish them |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
heh |
11:31 |
nubbins` |
there was a starcraft tv station when i lived in sk :( |
11:31 |
pankkake |
oh you lived there? nice |
11:32 |
pankkake |
a country that values video games players more than football players can't be that bad! |
11:33 |
asciilifeform |
the old 'shibboleth' method... |
11:33 |
nubbins` |
as a Foreigner (with a capital F), it was both good and bad |
11:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-] |
11:33 |
nubbins` |
overall i appreciated the experience, wouldn't do it again |
11:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00087636 = 6.2222 BTC [+] |
11:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 390 @ 0.00108654 = 0.4238 BTC [-] |
11:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7333 BTC [+] |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7345 = 1.469 BTC [+] |
12:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0069501 = 0.1321 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
12:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 693 @ 0.00695002 = 4.8164 BTC [-] {3} |
12:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73449 = 1.469 BTC [-] |
12:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7345 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 32 minutes ~ |
13:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 996 @ 0.002098 = 2.0896 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
13:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.205 BTC [+] |
13:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00645435 = 0.2969 BTC [-] {2} |
13:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00086992 = 7.7423 BTC [-] |
13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.doublerobotics.com/ |
13:49 |
ozbot |
Double Robotics - Telepresence Robot for Telecommuters |
13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this is made for mothers-in-law isn't it. |
13:50 |
pankkake |
that has to be the most impolite thing ever |
13:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.002006 = 0.1083 BTC [-] |
13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
new technology usually is. |
13:55 |
zist |
MP: are you planning on stalking your inlaws with it ?? |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose it's all lost by now, but at a time in human history before computers, |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
the one joke in most ample common use was the evil of the mother in law |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
and how she visits uninvited and inserts herself in the ribcage of her son in law and so on |
14:04 |
asciilifeform |
there was an earlier vendor that made these. intended for factory floor overseers. those had aim-able laser pointers. |
14:05 |
zist |
mircea_popescu: ::) |
14:05 |
zist |
:) |
14:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder what happened to the earlier vendor. |
14:05 |
asciilifeform |
it was a paulgrahamoid |
14:05 |
asciilifeform |
those tend to die mysterious deaths |
14:06 |
asciilifeform |
or possibly they just rebranded and this is still it. |
14:08 |
mircea_popescu |
seems likely. i was thinking "well maybe they rebranded it and took more investment" |
14:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1485 @ 0.00011102 = 0.1649 BTC [+] {3} |
14:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 164 @ 0.00108599 = 0.1781 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
14:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.7345 = 4.407 BTC [+] |
14:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6722 @ 0.00086929 = 5.8434 BTC [-] {3} |
14:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04802759 = 0.1441 BTC [-] {3} |
14:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 585 @ 0.0019894 = 1.1638 BTC [-] {5} |
14:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.0018 = 0.225 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
15:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4495 @ 0.00087076 = 3.9141 BTC [+] {2} |
15:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 130 @ 0.00108599 = 0.1412 BTC [+] |
15:28 |
kakobrekla |
anyone used all4btc.com before? |
15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
nope |
15:33 |
lyspooner |
when were all those puts purchased on mpex |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
some were bought some were sold |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
a few days ago |
15:36 |
lyspooner |
are you making prices still? looks n/a to me |
15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
the bitcoincharts site died. |
15:36 |
lyspooner |
aw crap |
15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2013#375395 |
15:36 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
15:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 157 @ 0.00108599 = 0.1705 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 53 minutes ~ |
16:43 |
clamcat |
;;ticker |
16:43 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 332.43999, Best ask: 332.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.05001, Last trade: 332.5, 24 hour volume: 78706.08840971, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 383.0, 24 hour vwap: 328.91239 |
| |
~ 53 minutes ~ |
17:36 |
mod6 |
;;bc,stats |
17:36 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 268908 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 1235 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 2 hours, 20 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 542730094.758 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.22402 |
17:41 |
mod6 |
weird, bitcoincharts.com seems to work ok for me? |
17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
it's been back for hours |
17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm just giving it a little to see wtf exactly. |
17:43 |
mod6 |
ahh i see. |
17:48 |
mod6 |
oh and btw, eulora v0.0.3 worked & started up fine for me on linux... but the server wasn't up. but as far as the package... it unpacked and started up no problem. |
17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
a cool |
17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
the server's been having some choking issues so it's been up and down the past few days |
17:52 |
mircea_popescu |
should be mostly up next week |
17:57 |
mod6 |
mircea_popescu: cool! thx. |
18:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.712 = 1.424 BTC [-] |
18:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.70600001 BTC [-] |
18:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.70098817 = 15.4217 BTC [-] {5} |
18:26 |
jurov |
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/10/5088048/british-intelligence-gchq-linkedin-slashdot-quantum-insert |
18:26 |
ozbot |
British intelligence reportedly intercepted LinkedIn and Slashdot traffic to plant malware | The Ver |
18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
no gpg, no love. |
18:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.6900909 = 7.591 BTC [-] {3} |
18:37 |
jurov |
mpex db_dump back online, hopefully won't be ever needed |
18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
amen. |
18:41 |
mod6 |
werd. thx for the update jurov |
18:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3405 @ 0.00105067 = 3.5775 BTC [-] {14} |
18:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14020 @ 0.00087345 = 12.2458 BTC [+] |
18:55 |
benkay |
http://media.coindesk.com/2013/10/Google-Glass-Dog.jpg |
18:55 |
benkay |
hello this is dog |
19:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.7 = 2.8 BTC [+] |
19:02 |
benkay |
https://twitter.com/Wu_Tang_Finance |
19:02 |
ozbot |
Wu-Tang Financial (Wu_Tang_Finance) on Twitter |
19:05 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
19:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 552 @ 0.00178996 = 0.9881 BTC [-] {3} |
19:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0010708 = 0.1071 BTC [+] |
19:14 |
jurov |
;;bc,stats |
19:14 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 268918 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 1225 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 57 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 542659989.056 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.2103 |
19:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.69006666 = 10.351 BTC [-] {2} |
19:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30000002 BTC [+] |
19:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00172301 = 0.1723 BTC [-] |
19:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0465709 = 0.1397 BTC [-] {2} |
19:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00645541 = 0.1937 BTC [-] |
19:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.30000002 BTC [+] |
19:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.30000001 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2} |
19:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 99 @ 0.0010506 = 0.104 BTC [-] |
19:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.04636052 = 0.2318 BTC [-] {2} |
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20:56 |
kakobrekla |
mfg. https://bitcoinsberlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/windelvoss-514x362.jpe |
21:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Moar Garr255 scammer drama https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330481.0 |
21:03 |
kakobrekla |
hehehe |
21:03 |
pankkake |
delivering BFL stuff late. BFL² |
21:10 |
kakobrekla |
>>Kakobrekla is the slanderous soul that I haven't ignored because I have to report so many of his posts. Now that this thread is turning against him he (or a mod, as usual) deleted these later posts, he should stop with the rambling because nobody listens to him. |
21:10 |
kakobrekla |
by garr. |
21:10 |
kakobrekla |
hehe |
21:16 |
benkay |
"amount scammed: $2080 plus 27 BTC" |
21:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00087737 = 2.6321 BTC [+] |
21:20 |
Vexual |
poor little smidge |
21:22 |
Vexual |
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_bgb/englisch_bgb.html#p0448 |
21:22 |
ozbot |
German Civil Code BGB |
21:26 |
kakobrekla |
whats up with smidge |
21:26 |
Vexual |
spürt man die Schadenfreude? |
21:26 |
Vexual |
fund is fail |
21:26 |
kakobrekla |
a that, nothing new. |
21:27 |
kakobrekla |
how many btc did he blow up anyway? |
21:28 |
Vexual |
400? |
21:30 |
Vexual |
the accounting is indecipherable |
21:30 |
kakobrekla |
:> |
21:31 |
kakobrekla |
!jd |
21:31 |
assbot |
Just-Dice stat: 7360 BTC profit, 57.5k BTC invested, 240.69 mio bets, 4.37 mio BTC wagered |
21:33 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ7ZpN3Wa_s |
21:33 |
ozbot |
Black Grape - Money Back Guaranteed - YouTube |
21:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 688 @ 0.0010505 = 0.7227 BTC [-] {2} |
21:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.0010505 = 1.0505 BTC [-] |
21:37 |
benkay |
great track Vexual |
21:43 |
Vexual |
im starting up a bitcoin legal firm, as soon as i can work out the word marco that puts a letterhead at the top with the words "Flee immediately!" as the message. |
21:43 |
Diablo-D3 |
;;ticker |
21:43 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 331.0, Best ask: 331.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 331.0, 24 hour volume: 56209.26409275, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 359.8789, 24 hour vwap: 323.05205 |
21:44 |
Vexual |
sup nublinio? |
21:44 |
nubbins` |
not much, just cut up a ton of paper |
21:45 |
nubbins` |
thousand-foot rolls are REALLY heavy |
21:45 |
Vexual |
guiness book of spliffs? |
21:45 |
nubbins` |
nah, for show posters |
21:45 |
nubbins` |
biggest prints yet, 18x24" |
21:45 |
Vexual |
:) |
21:46 |
Vexual |
do you have a printing business? or is it a hobby? |
21:47 |
nubbins` |
i co-own a print studio :D |
21:47 |
nubbins` |
http://i.imgur.com/pCpdZD4.png |
21:47 |
nubbins` |
used to be a hobby |
21:47 |
nubbins` |
now it's work :0 |
21:48 |
Vexual |
sounds fun |
21:48 |
nubbins` |
livin the dream |
21:50 |
Vexual |
all arty stuff is it? |
21:52 |
nubbins` |
most jobs involve some sort of design work, yeah |
21:53 |
nubbins` |
it's about a 50/50 split between shirts and paper right now |
21:53 |
Vexual |
so its not all just overpriced linocuts tho |
21:53 |
nubbins` |
but we do wholesale orders for customers as well as hawk our own stuff retail |
21:53 |
nubbins` |
oh, no, we don't do any lino work |
21:53 |
nubbins` |
all silkscreen |
21:54 |
Vexual |
commercial art |
21:54 |
nubbins` |
and some digital printing as well |
21:54 |
Vexual |
like some modern day picaso |
21:54 |
nubbins` |
we do a lot of shirts and posters for bands |
21:54 |
nubbins` |
published a few books for people |
21:55 |
Vexual |
in fact if picaso had a baby with a mid sixties acid party flyer, you'd imagine something like that poster |
21:55 |
nubbins` |
heh |
21:55 |
nubbins` |
we do collaborations with people a lot, too |
21:57 |
Vexual |
picaso is dead u scammer |
21:59 |
nubbins` |
;0 |
21:59 |
Vexual |
if i drew a picture of a horse thats realy good, could you print it and send me bitcoins everymont? |
22:00 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/a/DVVWB |
22:00 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
22:00 |
nubbins` |
if it's good enough, we'll put it in a zine and give you a few free copies |
22:01 |
Vexual |
hoo, that dejavud some part of my brain id forgotten about |
22:01 |
Vexual |
the texta period |
22:05 |
benkay |
http://imgur.com/gallery/6GoNcPc |
22:05 |
ozbot |
Fun with panorama view... - Imgur |
22:05 |
benkay |
http://imgur.com/gallery/5TMc55t |
22:05 |
ozbot |
Panoramic photo gone wrong - Imgur |
22:05 |
Vexual |
id like to submit a study of prehistoric marsupials in an acidic style if youd consider it |
22:06 |
Vexual |
everyone doesnt know they always wanted to ponder the marsupial lion |
22:06 |
nubbins` |
hahaha |
22:07 |
nubbins` |
both those pictures looked rotten |
22:07 |
KRS1 |
haha yea |
22:07 |
KRS1 |
thats a lot of man meat. |
22:09 |
thestringpuller |
.bait |
22:09 |
ozbot |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m46bi2uFQR1robs3no1_500.jpg |
22:09 |
thestringpuller |
data ass |
22:10 |
thestringpuller |
data ass |
22:10 |
thestringpuller |
.bait |
22:10 |
ozbot |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m47xgvVEqd1robs3no1_500.jpg |
22:10 |
Vexual |
no silicone no data |
22:11 |
Vexual |
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/09/29/kangaroostamp_wideweb__470x339,0.jpg |
22:12 |
thestringpuller |
someone just said they saw a pack a niggas |
22:12 |
thestringpuller |
what are we like cigarettes now? |
22:12 |
Dimsler |
no |
22:12 |
Dimsler |
like a pack of wild animals |
22:13 |
Dimsler |
a pack of fags |
22:13 |
Dimsler |
are cigarettes |
22:15 |
Vexual |
conforming to accepted collective nouns is so 20teens |
22:15 |
Vexual |
would it be a stack of bitcoins? |
22:15 |
Vexual |
get fucked |
22:22 |
Dimsler |
no you can't stack bitcoins |
22:22 |
Dimsler |
they dont' exist |
22:24 |
Vexual |
you can't murder crows either fuckstick |
22:25 |
Dimsler |
you can have a murder of crows |
22:27 |
Vexual |
so whats a good name for a collection of bitcoins? |
22:28 |
Dimsler |
you can use the word collection |
22:28 |
Dimsler |
a list |
22:28 |
Dimsler |
a purse |
22:28 |
Dimsler |
a wallet |
22:31 |
Vexual |
i was thinking of something more like conference, but not conference |
22:34 |
Vexual |
buch alliterates nicely, but doesn't allude to the complexity of the system |
22:34 |
Vexual |
*bunch |
22:35 |
Vexual |
buch: book? |
22:38 |
benkay |
a hash of coins |
22:38 |
benkay |
a crypt of coins |
22:39 |
Vexual |
crypt |
22:39 |
Vexual |
for the hoarders |
22:43 |
Vexual |
will satoshis vision ever be usurped? |
22:44 |
benkay |
what is satoshis vision |
22:44 |
Vexual |
he loved it and let it go |
22:44 |
Vexual |
dunno really |
22:44 |
Vexual |
fuck up money |
22:44 |
Vexual |
light a fuse and flee immediately |
22:45 |
Vexual |
strikes me as anarchistic |
22:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 639 @ 0.00179 = 1.1438 BTC [+] |
22:50 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urtiyp-G6jY |
22:50 |
ozbot |
Redgum - I Was Only 19 (1983) - YouTube |
22:50 |
Dimsler |
lol |
22:50 |
Dimsler |
crypt of coins |
22:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 341 @ 0.0010703 = 0.365 BTC [+] |
22:55 |
Vexual |
perhaps if a war gets funded with bitcoin his vision will die |
22:57 |
KRS1 |
lower highs again market needs more buyers |
22:58 |
KRS1 |
vexual: buy moar |
22:59 |
Vexual |
i don't trade |
23:02 |
Vexual |
i earn and i spend, just like i do with old money, the accounting is just easier now |
23:05 |
Vexual |
and i'm under no illusion that old money will die in my lifetime, but bitcoin will take over internet commerce |
23:06 |
KRS1 |
why bitcoin and not any of the other virtual currencies? |
23:07 |
Vexual |
you might not remember KRS1, but there was a frustrating time where some people couldn't accept and send email. but it changed very quickly |
23:08 |
KRS1 |
you know daz rite |
23:08 |
Vexual |
now every faggot and his dog has facebook |
23:09 |
Vexual |
but they'll learn |
23:15 |
Vexual |
im sure darwin's assistants would love to analyse human polulation growth and the evlolution to a global hive |
23:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00665199 = 0.2594 BTC [-] {4} |
23:18 |
Vexual |
some dreadeded colonloscopy |
23:18 |
Vexual |
inalienable truths of life on earth |
23:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00648731 = 0.266 BTC [-] |
23:19 |
Vexual |
you can twitch you little ant-lers, but theres nothing for it |
23:20 |
benkay |
Vexual: thanks for turning me on to Black Grape. |
23:20 |
Vexual |
yeah sean ryder ate pills to show us the lkight like some manchester jesus |
23:22 |
Vexual |
i was given a promo copy of stupid stupid stupid for my dancing skills in a club one night, the dj said, this belongs to you |
23:32 |
Vexual |
speakinging of powerful aquaintances, is mircea awake? |
23:33 |
Vexual |
i think he might appreciate the lulz i have in store |
23:34 |
Vexual |
probly out pimpin' |
23:36 |
benkay |
what lulz u plannin brizzo |
23:36 |
Vexual |
u name it |
23:36 |
benkay |
do this irl |
23:36 |
benkay |
solid tr |
23:36 |
benkay |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist_(film) |
23:37 |
Vexual |
dreams and relity are very interchangeable for the chronic alcoholic |
23:37 |
Vexual |
i don't like horror movies |
23:40 |
Vexual |
i studied nosferatu at film school, but it washed over me like some boring book |
23:42 |
Vexual |
there are some innovattive camera techniques, and societial cleverness, but the meat of the content is absent |
23:47 |
Vexual |
i could give you a short reading list to chanbge your mind benkay, but one must be careful what the brain absorbs |
23:54 |
Vexual |
as a wanna be hpster sorcerer, i wish you good luck finding half of the titles aoutside my own library |
23:55 |
Vexual |
mainly slef bublished adventure novels written by drug users |
23:56 |
Vexual |
and some acid zines like nubbins publishes |
23:57 |
Vexual |
funny how any roomful of books can make more sense than one bible |
23:58 |
Vexual |
ive got genesis by crumb, thats quite fantastic in thet genre |
23:59 |
Vexual |
but its just a book movie of a book you've heard of |