00:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.NSA] 501000 @ 0.0001 = 50.1 BTC {2} |
00:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [-] |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
so s.nsa ipo is a definite. |
00:03 |
mircea_popescu |
congrats to teh team. |
00:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00554 = 0.2216 BTC [-] |
00:07 |
kakobrekla |
i miss ipo spam |
00:07 |
BingoBoingo |
So sad no S.NSA spam |
00:08 |
nubbins` |
hooray |
00:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.00553001 = 0.2986 BTC [-] {2} |
00:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ya srsly. ou sont les spams d'antan! |
00:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00553001 = 0.1825 BTC [-] |
00:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.NSA] 49575 @ 0.0001 = 4.9575 BTC |
00:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 499 @ 0.00555 = 2.7695 BTC [+] |
00:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012003 BTC [-] |
00:32 |
VanCleef |
hey mircea_popscu did you verify at bitfunder yet? |
00:34 |
kakobrekla |
are you trying to outroll dub? |
00:35 |
VanCleef |
is it worth verifying or not really? |
00:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2453 @ 0.00021997 = 0.5396 BTC [-] |
00:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2228 @ 0.00021997 = 0.4901 BTC [-] |
00:37 |
pankkake |
I offered to verify an account for a fee, but no one even seems remotely interested |
00:39 |
VanCleef |
probably cause its not "legal" whatever that means |
00:39 |
VanCleef |
but you could probably just wait for another exchange yeh? |
00:39 |
pankkake |
I'm always surprised when bitcoiners want to obey laws |
00:40 |
pankkake |
yeah, that's more like it |
00:40 |
kakobrekla |
yeah i heard 123 or whats it called is the shits now |
00:40 |
pankkake |
796? |
00:40 |
pankkake |
I wonder why the chinese love numbers in site names |
00:41 |
kakobrekla |
yeah, 123. |
00:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2733 @ 0.00248594 = 6.7941 BTC [+] {10} |
00:41 |
nubbins` |
what's .wps format, anyone know? |
00:42 |
pankkake |
word perfect? |
00:43 |
nubbins` |
no idea. google docs won't open it |
00:43 |
nubbins` |
oh, microsoft works? jesus |
00:43 |
nubbins` |
what are people into at all |
00:43 |
pankkake |
oh… indeed |
00:43 |
nubbins` |
who writes a book in microsoft works? |
00:44 |
pankkake |
people who are no good at computers I guess. it is often bundled |
00:44 |
nubbins` |
:( |
00:44 |
nubbins` |
i hope it can save in other formats |
00:45 |
pankkake |
can't you open it with libreoffice? |
00:45 |
pankkake |
or word at least |
00:46 |
nubbins` |
i have openoffice (i know) and google docs |
00:46 |
nubbins` |
honestly, this is the first time someone's sent me something i couldn't open in docs |
00:49 |
VanCleef |
pankkake bf would probably get the shits and close down the account and take your coins etc |
00:49 |
BingoBoingo |
So I'm thinking of getting a new offline computer and considering the Macintosh SE/30. It seems like a TI-89 on steroids. Any obvious faults I'm overlooking? |
00:49 |
pankkake |
how would they find out I'm not the one managing the account? |
00:50 |
pankkake |
there's absolutely no way |
00:50 |
VanCleef |
but yeh 796 could be good |
00:51 |
nubbins` |
i, uh. obvious fault is that it'll probably be a nightmare to keep running |
00:51 |
pankkake |
? |
00:51 |
nubbins` |
re: bingoboingo |
00:52 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo: So I'm thinking of getting a new offline computer and considering the Macintosh SE/30. It seems like a TI-89 on steroids. Any obvious faults I'm overlooking? |
00:52 |
pankkake |
oh, sorry. waking up |
00:52 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: I'm thinking of using for purposes where unexpected total failure might be a virtue rather than a vice. |
00:53 |
nubbins` |
that was my next question |
00:53 |
nubbins` |
so you're storing your poetry on it, hey? |
00:56 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Maybe/Probably. I've found a QR code gun for its weird Serial port though. The only reason I'm thinking SE/30 is NetBSD won't build on the Mac Classic I have as it requires the 030 or 020 plus coprocessor. |
00:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00081532 = 13.0451 BTC [-] {3} |
00:56 |
nubbins` |
ah |
00:56 |
nubbins` |
i use a heavily modified bsd kernel myself |
00:57 |
nubbins` |
how much did the qr code gun set you back? i was thinking a small photo scanner would serve much the same purpose |
00:59 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: I actually acquired it at the same school surplus auction as the Mac Classic I need to replace with the SE/30. It was about $75 I spent that day on three computers, two barcode/QR guns, and a printer. |
00:59 |
nubbins` |
rad! |
00:59 |
nubbins` |
that's a great setup |
01:00 |
pankkake |
how do the QR readers work? do you need drivers? |
01:01 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Well it would be if the three Mac Classics could use a decent unix instead of Mac os 7 or AU/X |
01:01 |
BingoBoingo |
pankkake: I haven't crossed that bridge yet with NetBSD |
01:01 |
VanCleef |
anyone here using 796? |
01:03 |
nubbins` |
hm. how far along 7 can you get on a mac classic? |
01:03 |
nubbins` |
i think they were updating that as late as 1997 |
01:03 |
nubbins` |
still a rough way to have to use a computer though |
01:07 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Maybe? After reading some of asciilifeform's blog though I took time to get reacquainted with my TI-89. It might be older hardware, but sometimes going for the Cougar is worth it... provided you remember the rubber and can afford the Valtrex. |
01:08 |
BingoBoingo |
VanCleef: 796 just looks shady. The only reason it might survive is the Chinese might simply want Americans to look worse at this technology thing. |
01:09 |
asciilifeform |
for crypto buffs: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 |
01:13 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: If I wanted to replace my primary computer with a more obedient machine, would you recommend an HP or a TI graphing calculator. I'm just wondering because reading you makes me more paranoid than I was. |
01:13 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: If you've managed to write a working TCP/IP stack for your TI, go for it. |
01:16 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Honestly I'm accepting everything connected to this internet bullshit is dirty. I'm kind of wondering just which calculator can more reliably feed GnuPG better random numbers if kept offline. |
01:16 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: I know of no GPG port or work-alike for the TI, but perhaps you can write the first one. |
01:17 |
asciilifeform |
AFAIK neither includes a TRNG. |
01:18 |
kakobrekla |
dont some of those usb rand generators do the job at least better than nothing? |
01:18 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Well, I'd probably be limited to using the existing GCC port for the TI-89 to compile and hoping the NSA would let science the courtesy of having some decent sources for random and pseudo random numbers. |
01:19 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the TI-8x series had serial inputs (3.5mm jack), perhaps you can improvise something. |
01:20 |
VanCleef |
looks less shady than bitfunder tho |
01:20 |
kakobrekla |
i think your shady-o-meter is broke |
01:20 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: The 89 at least has a 3.5 like audio jack. I'm kind of leaning towards Mircea's orgy microphone as a seed input idea. |
01:21 |
VanCleef |
but it has a norton secured thingy on its site |
01:21 |
VanCleef |
powered by verisign!!! |
01:21 |
BingoBoingo |
VanCleef: If 796 looks less shady than Buttfunder maybe rotorooter the eyes? |
01:21 |
assbot |
123! |
01:21 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: you will definitely want to de-bias the noise, as most microphones pick up periodic interference (e.g. mains hum) |
01:21 |
VanCleef |
okey so for now 796 is pretty dodgy |
01:21 |
assbot |
123! |
01:22 |
VanCleef |
check |
01:22 |
kakobrekla |
asciilifeform care to comment on the usb rand generators? |
01:23 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: the currently-available ones? |
01:23 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: So... Mains hums would bias more than local humps? Turn the sensetivity down? |
01:23 |
kakobrekla |
well, theres like 5 or 10 of them no? |
01:23 |
asciilifeform |
'Entropy Key' is thought to be acceptable, but it's been sold out for ages. |
01:23 |
asciilifeform |
the others are squarely in the 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' territory. |
01:24 |
asciilifeform |
problem is: it is quite possible to build a HRNG that passes any conceivable 'test of entropy' while remaining insecure. |
01:24 |
kakobrekla |
theres like 5 of them with reasonable price here |
01:24 |
asciilifeform |
try this exercise: apply your favourite test to: the digits of Pi. |
01:24 |
kakobrekla |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_hardware_random_number_generators |
01:26 |
asciilifeform |
a good HRNG is, probably unavoidably, one of two kinds: that you built yourself, or is simple enough to examine with basic bench instruments to see that it has 'nothing up the sleeve.' |
01:27 |
asciilifeform |
if you want one now, and would rather not wait for mine, build the damn thing yourself. It will take you a day or two. |
01:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+] |
01:28 |
kakobrekla |
yeah ill be knitting socks right now if id have to diy everything |
01:29 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: if store-bought socks routinely came with a contact poison, i imagine that quite a few people would learn to knit. |
01:30 |
kakobrekla |
hehe |
01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Honestly I am waiting for the Cardanos and hoping I can afford 10+ largely for the reason that store bought cotton does include various aldehydes. |
01:31 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: Cardano will be "as cheap as possible, but not cheaper." |
01:32 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: That is good in that cheaper than possible would be worthless. Not being cheaper than that is simply declaring your value. |
01:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37012003 = 0.7402 BTC [-] |
01:41 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I stand by my earlier idea that the Cardano should be available in at least two gift boxes. One with the Cardano, lingere, and a camera; and the other with the Cardano and a blackjack. |
01:42 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: suggest this to MP, that's his department. |
01:43 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I'm pretty sure I've told him before, but as long as I don't triple dot elipse it should be in the logs |
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02:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00081395 = 4.6395 BTC [-] {2} |
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02:29 |
virtuals |
;;ticker |
02:29 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 161.26390, Best ask: 161.96599, Bid-ask spread: 0.70209, Last trade: 161.96599, 24 hour volume: 19346.13979827, 24 hour low: 150.64000, 24 hour high: 161.96599, 24 hour vwap: 156.16054 |
02:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00560101 = 0.2801 BTC [-] |
02:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+] |
02:44 |
benkay |
;;vwap |
02:44 |
gribble |
Error: "vwap" is not a valid command. |
02:45 |
benkay |
durrrr |
02:45 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google buttcoins nao |
02:45 |
gribble |
They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao>; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/perfect-money-corrupts-absolutely/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/> |
02:47 |
kakobrekla |
$vwap |
02:47 |
mpexbot |
kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wEqJhKQk |
02:47 |
kakobrekla |
nop |
02:48 |
pankkake |
.vwap |
02:48 |
pankkake |
☃vwap |
02:52 |
benkay |
wamp wamp |
02:52 |
benkay |
;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/31/the-perils-of-homeschooling-german-police-storm-home-seize-four-children/ ah yes the glorious superiority of european everything |
02:52 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
02:53 |
pankkake |
no child services or something in the glorious usa? |
02:54 |
dub |
fuck homeschooling |
02:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+] |
02:59 |
dub |
kids should have been euthanised instead of becoming a tax burden |
03:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.NSA] 30000 @ 0.0001 = 3 BTC |
03:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.37012001 = 1.1104 BTC [-] |
03:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.0056 = 0.3976 BTC [-] {2} |
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03:22 |
benkay |
"school" |
03:22 |
benkay |
aka industrial babysitting |
03:23 |
pankkake |
and brainwashing |
03:23 |
benkay |
it's a poor troll, admittedly, but at least in the states we can abuse our childrens education |
03:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00081898 = 0.1638 BTC [+] {2} |
03:23 |
benkay |
ugh english. too late for me :( |
03:23 |
pankkake |
hehe |
03:24 |
dub |
been to school in teh states so I know how bad it is |
03:24 |
dub |
but its what the other kids do |
03:26 |
dub |
do they still make you chant at the flag? |
03:28 |
mod6 |
they brought it back i think. |
03:29 |
mod6 |
in all my days we never had to do it. but i think after 9/11 they brought it back. lol |
03:31 |
mod6 |
wow: In 2009, a Montgomery County, Maryland, teacher berated and had school police remove a 13-year-old girl who refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance in the classroom. The student's mother, assisted by the American Civil Liberties Union of Maryland, sought and received an apology from the teacher, as state law and the school's student handbook both prohibit students from being forced to recite the Pledge |
03:31 |
mod6 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance |
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03:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 297 @ 0.0056 = 1.6632 BTC [-] {2} |
03:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 540 @ 0.0025 = 1.35 BTC [+] |
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~ 1 hours 47 minutes ~ |
05:39 |
dub |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=263445.msg3347620#msg3347620 |
05:39 |
ozbot |
[LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) |
05:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 118 @ 0.58618021 = 69.1693 BTC [-] {21} |
05:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0056 = 0.1456 BTC [-] |
06:01 |
mod6 |
.jd |
06:02 |
mod6 |
*bzzt* Thank you for playing. |
06:02 |
mod6 |
!jd |
06:02 |
assbot |
Just-Dice stat: 4715 BTC profit, 61.5k BTC invested, 181.24 mio bets, 4.17 mio BTC wagered |
06:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00081258 = 2.6003 BTC [-] |
06:09 |
jurov |
;;bcstats |
06:09 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 264068 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 27 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 266585355.262 | Estimated Percent Change: 40.84087 |
06:11 |
jurov |
;;nethash |
06:11 |
gribble |
2448463.01622 |
06:20 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell benkay http://crossmap.christianpost.com/news/german-officials-return-homeschooled-children-to-dirk-wunderlich-family-on-condition-of-school-attendance-5255 |
06:20 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
06:21 |
mircea_popescu |
do not confuse europe with the us depiction thereof. |
06:26 |
pankkake |
"The Wunderlich children were returned after the parents promised they would send their children back to a state school" so? they're still stealing children |
06:27 |
jurov |
pankkake: you won't believe what slovak catholic bigots came up with |
06:27 |
pankkake |
what? |
06:27 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake well, in germany you gotta send kids to school. |
06:27 |
jurov |
not just stealing children, but they supposedly give them for adoption to homosexuals |
06:27 |
pankkake |
lol |
06:27 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't, however, have to live in germany. |
06:28 |
jurov |
and also, they are teaching them to masturbate in norway or so |
06:28 |
pankkake |
that's like teaching to breathe |
06:29 |
jurov |
and teching the homosexuality, zoophilia etc, of course |
06:30 |
Azelphur |
mircea_popescu: I'm curious to know what your opinion is on the US debt default tomorrow |
06:30 |
Azelphur |
that's gonna be interesting :P |
06:30 |
mircea_popescu |
it doesn't default dood. |
06:31 |
Azelphur |
I thought because the government hasn't been issued funding, they are unable to make this months payments on the bond, which is a default, no? |
06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
the situation ios like this : each state has some income as tax receipts, and some expenses. in actual reality, the first claim to tax receipts goes to servicing the debt. |
06:31 |
mircea_popescu |
in pseudo-lala crack cocaine pipedream the libertards in the us are living in, the first claim goes to welfare programs. |
06:32 |
mircea_popescu |
by their distorted reasoning, as there's not enough tax income to satisfy both of these, there will be a default. |
06:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012001 BTC [-] |
06:32 |
Azelphur |
I see |
06:32 |
mircea_popescu |
in actual reality, there will be no default, just the various "paying poor people to vote democrat" programs will collapse. |
06:32 |
Azelphur |
so you think they'll pay off the debt, and cut welfare? |
06:32 |
mircea_popescu |
so, no more food stamps. |
06:32 |
mircea_popescu |
no more health insurance. etc. |
06:32 |
mircea_popescu |
yep. |
06:32 |
mircea_popescu |
they already cut out food stamps for like, a day. |
06:32 |
Azelphur |
interesting, that was certainly one of the scenarios I came up with |
06:32 |
mircea_popescu |
so good for you. |
06:33 |
Azelphur |
xD |
06:33 |
Azelphur |
lucky me I don't depend on welfare any more, I guess. |
06:33 |
mircea_popescu |
no state HAS TO pay the poor. the poor are always last in line, and for very good reason : they're lesser people. |
06:33 |
mircea_popescu |
indeed. |
06:34 |
pankkake |
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/dagong-rating-agency-us-has-already-defaulted |
06:34 |
ozbot |
Dagong Rating Agency: "The US Has Already Defaulted" | Zero Hedge |
06:34 |
jurov |
in 1967 or so |
06:36 |
mircea_popescu |
what, the nixon gold thing ? |
06:36 |
jurov |
anyway, i don't believe welfare is more than small % of us budget |
06:37 |
jurov |
so it wont make a difference |
06:39 |
dexX7 |
how likely is it that the usa goes broke tomorrow and will the be the end of teh world? |
06:39 |
jurov |
oh, the world already ended in 1989 in ussr breakdown |
06:39 |
jurov |
you didnt get the memo |
06:40 |
dexX7 |
hehe |
06:41 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov it's about a 40% |
06:42 |
Perlboy |
mircea_popescu, maybe they'll pay the debt off to the chinese |
06:42 |
Perlboy |
by inflating their currency |
06:43 |
Perlboy |
cause that worked for germany and all :) |
06:43 |
mircea_popescu |
Perlboy nope. tried past 5 yeas, the problem is everyone will devalue. |
06:44 |
Perlboy |
although not having social welfare seems a bit of a fools errand. |
06:44 |
Perlboy |
social welfare work schemes seem more logical |
06:44 |
Perlboy |
which i don't believe the u.s. has |
06:46 |
dexX7 |
pankkake: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/dagong-rating-agency-us-has-already-defaulted did you see the date? |
06:46 |
pankkake |
yes, it's the fun part |
06:47 |
dexX7 |
ah i see :)= |
06:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6785 BTC [+] |
06:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2013/things-that-matter-these-days-things-that-dont-matter-these-days/ |
06:59 |
ozbot |
Things that matter these days ; things that don’t matter these days. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce |
06:59 |
mircea_popescu |
^ recommended reading. |
06:59 |
Azelphur |
inb4 boobs |
07:03 |
mircea_popescu |
just penis. |
07:03 |
Azelphur |
close enough xD |
07:03 |
Azelphur |
but yea, I was around for all that shit too |
07:03 |
Azelphur |
the massive GPU difficulty spike, then the massive FPGA difficulty spike, and the Mt. Gox hack that dropped the exchange rate to practically zero |
07:04 |
Azelphur |
mircea_popescu: I'm dubious as to if a difficulty spike of this magnitude will happen again for a while now though - we've jumped through all iterations of current technology |
07:04 |
Azelphur |
there is no next step, in terms of mining hardware, it's just making gradual improvements to the ASICs |
07:04 |
mircea_popescu |
we've not jumped through actual mass adoption. if you grep the logs for last month's discussion about hashing bathroom tiles... |
07:05 |
Azelphur |
haha |
07:05 |
mircea_popescu |
you know, for house heating. |
07:06 |
Azelphur |
that'd be pretty cool, I'm pretty much heating my house off of 3 x SC Single atm |
07:06 |
Azelphur |
but it only does the one room. |
07:06 |
Azelphur |
but yea, I reckon that scenario is a long way away |
07:07 |
Azelphur |
public adoption in general takes many years. |
07:07 |
mircea_popescu |
"a long way away". |
07:07 |
mircea_popescu |
5 years ? |
07:07 |
Azelphur |
I'd think more like 10 |
07:08 |
mircea_popescu |
well here's the thing : i'll be around in 10 years. |
07:08 |
Azelphur |
me too hopefully xD |
07:08 |
mircea_popescu |
and i'll look at the new graph and say... hey... i remember when i was discussing with azelphur |
07:08 |
mircea_popescu |
hehe |
07:08 |
Azelphur |
haha yea, prolly will |
07:08 |
Azelphur |
now if the exchange rate would just hurry up and do that again |
07:09 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
07:11 |
mod6 |
:D |
07:14 |
dexX7 |
mircea_popescu: your units are off.. all those super computers are messured in petaflop/s, not terraflop/s |
07:14 |
mircea_popescu |
33,862.7 |
07:15 |
dexX7 |
Tianhe-2 - 33 TFLOPS |
07:15 |
pankkake |
could one of those supercomputers 51% attack litecoin? |
07:15 |
mircea_popescu |
hah. people using fucking commas the wrong way |
07:15 |
dexX7 |
replace all T with a P and you're fine |
07:17 |
dexX7 |
and i suggest to assume FLOP = HASHOP or so.. both are "special" and would take many more regular ALUops |
07:17 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 made some edits :[ |
07:18 |
dexX7 |
:( sorry |
07:18 |
mircea_popescu |
but no, the flop = hashop equality is nonsense. |
07:18 |
dexX7 |
why? |
07:18 |
mircea_popescu |
even if you take "full hardware implementation" : you can easy fit 1000 flop cores in the space a hashcore takes |
07:19 |
mircea_popescu |
like, on physical silicon. |
07:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean, obviously you can make cores that do sqrt(x) in one cycle |
07:19 |
mircea_popescu |
that doesn't make sqrt(x) = X*2 |
07:19 |
dexX7 |
ah, good to know |
07:20 |
mircea_popescu |
in the end i guess this woud be the one base conversion factor, sqA of silicon space. |
07:20 |
dexX7 |
didn't know that flops are so much easier than hashops |
07:20 |
mircea_popescu |
well a shashop is 2 sha-256 hashings |
07:20 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/sha256.html |
07:20 |
ozbot |
JavaScript Implementation of SHA-256 Cryptographic Hash Algorithm | Movable Type Scripts |
07:20 |
mircea_popescu |
that's a js sample sha-256 implementation |
07:23 |
dexX7 |
i see |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
07:41 |
bitesak |
thanks MP for your most recent article_ |
07:42 |
mod6 |
i like it too. |
07:44 |
mircea_popescu |
bitesak actually... ima put that in the trilema bylines :D |
07:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.0025 = 0.375 BTC [+] |
08:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share |
08:01 |
bitesak |
is it reasonable to argue it is in China's interest to support and accumulate bitcoins as a hedge and part of an exit of their dwindling USD base as well as precipating even faster the demise of the dollar? |
08:02 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps. |
08:02 |
Troic |
what about boinc ? it reports 8.8 petaflops of compute over the last 24hours : https://boinc.berkeley.edu/ |
08:03 |
mircea_popescu |
Troic i used the http://www.top500.org/lists/2013/06/ list |
08:03 |
mircea_popescu |
conceivably it's not 100% accurate, but gotta use something |
08:07 |
asa1024 |
mp: re: recent article. just wow. |
08:08 |
asa1024 |
post @ tri |
08:08 |
mircea_popescu |
yee |
08:08 |
pankkake |
;;bc,stats |
08:08 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 264093 | Current Difficulty: 1.8928124928103292E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 264095 | Next Difficulty In: 2 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 11 minutes and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 267614155.975 | Estimated Percent Change: 41.3844 |
08:08 |
pankkake |
not even 42! |
08:09 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
08:09 |
mircea_popescu |
epic. how the fuck does that go |
08:09 |
assbot |
Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1418823/plain/) |
08:09 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 5 |
08:09 |
pankkake |
oh, nice feature |
08:10 |
mircea_popescu |
#bitcoin-assets, leading the way in irc innovation. |
08:10 |
mircea_popescu |
we got bots to do everything. |
08:13 |
turbo_ac100_ |
mircea_popescu, is there evidence that the chinese and /or the US are mining? |
08:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.582 = 6.984 BTC [-] |
08:15 |
turbo_ac100_ |
besides "Estimated Percent Change: 41.3844" :P |
08:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0056 = 0.448 BTC [-] |
08:16 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. not public, but there is. |
08:17 |
Scrat |
https://blockchain.info/block-height/264096 |
08:17 |
pankkake |
RIP mining |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
Scrat what about that block ? |
08:18 |
Scrat |
new diff - 267.7 M |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
a a. yea |
08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
267.6 estimate earlier proves correct >D |
08:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64779999 = 1.2956 BTC [+] |
08:23 |
bitesak |
;;ticker |
08:23 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 161.30001, Best ask: 161.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 161.50000, 24 hour volume: 26035.62247003, 24 hour low: 151.20000, 24 hour high: 163.00000, 24 hour vwap: 157.69910 |
08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
.d |
08:24 |
ozbot |
267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 2015 blocks | Estimated Change: -99.9300% in 27d 23h 17m 17s |
08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
ha! -99.93% ! 11 |
08:24 |
pankkake |
please be true! |
08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
sell all the bitcoinz |
08:25 |
pankkake |
;;prevdiffchange |
08:25 |
gribble |
41.44626 |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
08:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012001 BTC [-] |
08:41 |
bitesak |
;;bc,stats |
08:41 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 264099 | Current Difficulty: 2.677312494824211E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 266111 | Next Difficulty In: 2012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 4 hours, 17 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 459625014.277 | Estimated Percent Change: 71.67403 |
08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
459625014.277 |
08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
herp |
08:42 |
pankkake |
can't be accurate so soon |
08:43 |
mircea_popescu |
what if it is. |
08:43 |
pankkake |
that would be fun |
08:43 |
Apocalyptic |
China mining hard... |
08:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i can't wait for all the something awful butthurt ensuing |
08:43 |
mircea_popescu |
"o these mean bitcoin people, they dont |
08:43 |
dexX7 |
too soon, no? cointerra, vmc and hashfast are shipping when? next month? |
08:44 |
mircea_popescu |
' give a shit what we think about it!!! you could heat all the poor african houses with all that electricity!!!" |
08:44 |
Apocalyptic |
heh |
08:44 |
mircea_popescu |
"why is it that resource allocation isn't done by a forum!" |
08:44 |
pankkake |
"why is it that resource allocation isn't done by a forum!" => that's what Ripple does :D |
08:44 |
mircea_popescu |
except it has no resources to allocate. |
08:45 |
pankkake |
bitfury has orders to ship in the US I think |
08:46 |
pankkake |
I meant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145506.0 - which at a time gave $100 worth to anyone with an account |
08:47 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. that worked so very well... |
08:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;estimate |
08:49 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 455842159.74 based on data since last change | 342070123.465 based on data for last three days |
08:50 |
pankkake |
indeed |
09:05 |
mircea_popescu |
.d |
09:05 |
ozbot |
267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 2009 blocks | Estimated Change: 58.7302% in 5d 18h 5m 3s |
09:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00081596 = 2.1623 BTC [+] |
09:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C128T] 700 @ 0.35586239 = 249.1037 BTC [+] |
09:11 |
ystarnaud |
wow did the diff go from 180mil to 267mil or did I miss a diff change in between? |
09:12 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 180 *1.42 |
09:12 |
gribble |
255.6 |
09:12 |
Apocalyptic |
ystarnaud, diff change some hours ago |
09:12 |
mircea_popescu |
hm i wonder if btc reaches 200 |
09:13 |
ystarnaud |
Apocalyptic: i know... but i was wondering if i missed a diff change somewhere or if it actually increased that much in 1 shot |
09:13 |
mircea_popescu |
it did man, like 41.8% |
09:13 |
Apocalyptic |
42% in one shoit |
09:13 |
ystarnaud |
thats nuts |
09:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
many people say the next bubble will go to 500 |
09:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm not one of them |
09:13 |
Apocalyptic |
$300 is a decent target |
09:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
200 is a decent target |
09:14 |
mircea_popescu |
just as long as it doesn't do retarded shit like shoot up through 1k or w/e. |
09:14 |
ystarnaud |
lol |
09:14 |
mircea_popescu |
you laugh now, but at some point it went from 15 to 260 |
09:15 |
mod6 |
^^^ |
09:15 |
ystarnaud |
i know i was there |
09:15 |
mircea_popescu |
i know you were hehe. |
09:15 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, off to see the dentist. may your next hours be less painful than mine. |
09:16 |
ystarnaud |
fun stuff |
09:16 |
ystarnaud |
good luck |
09:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0058802 = 0.1176 BTC [+] {2} |
09:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 134 @ 0.58175374 = 77.955 BTC [-] {5} |
09:26 |
bitesak |
as it is crazy times, chances of a 1000 rally and crash is possible |
09:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 215 @ 0.00595997 = 1.2814 BTC [+] {10} |
09:27 |
dexX7 |
why would it crash? |
09:27 |
deadweasel |
because there is not enough economy to support that price. |
09:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
chart reading is self-fulfilling as well |
09:28 |
deadweasel |
^ bingo, bubbles pop. 1k is a bubble. |
09:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.55968748 = 35.82 BTC [-] {2} |
09:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 191 @ 0.00512074 = 0.9781 BTC [-] {6} |
09:30 |
bitesak |
screwed either way, so enjoy the ride |
09:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00495211 = 0.1634 BTC [-] {4} |
09:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.52760013 = 3.1656 BTC [-] {2} |
09:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 50 @ 0.05158399 = 2.5792 BTC [-] {5} |
09:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.051 = 0.204 BTC [-] |
09:45 |
nubbins` |
hi |
09:46 |
nubbins` |
wow, 41% jump? |
09:47 |
kleeck |
That sneak up on you? |
09:47 |
nubbins` |
ehh, i know ~38 was being predicted |
09:47 |
nubbins` |
big psychological jump when it crosses 40 tho |
09:48 |
kleeck |
Is there? |
09:48 |
nubbins` |
…yes? |
09:48 |
nubbins` |
i mean, i said wow and everything! |
09:53 |
jborkl |
.n |
09:53 |
ozbot |
2459656.18063 |
09:53 |
jborkl |
.d |
09:53 |
ozbot |
267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 2001 blocks | Estimated Change: 72.1500% in 3d 20h 41m 2s |
09:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.0025 = 0.15 BTC [+] |
10:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.59333332 = 5.34 BTC [+] {3} |
10:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00115936 = 0.5797 BTC [-] {9} |
10:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37012001 = 0.7402 BTC [-] |
10:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4901 @ 0.00017 = 0.8332 BTC [-] {2} |
10:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.64499999 = 12.9 BTC [+] {3} |
10:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1500 @ 0.00115165 = 1.7275 BTC [-] {6} |
10:25 |
dexX7 |
;;nethash |
10:25 |
gribble |
2459656.18063 |
10:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.67375 = 4.0425 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
10:52 |
the20year1 |
If any of you all are in RentalStarter, it would be beneficial to join us at #rentalstarter to talk about an option for US investors, should we have any. |
10:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 111 @ 0.00589315 = 0.6541 BTC [+] {4} |
11:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] [PAID] 0.02096432 BTC to 40`316 shares, 52 satoshi per share |
11:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.051 = 0.102 BTC [+] |
11:03 |
kleeck |
Updated At 10:55 a.m. ET. Report: Deal Reached On Senate Side |
11:03 |
kleeck |
Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire tells The Associated Press that it's her understanding that Senate leaders have reached a deal and that a formal announcement was forthcoming. |
11:03 |
kleeck |
"I understand they've come to an agreement but I'm going to let the leader announce that," Ayotte said. |
11:03 |
kleeck |
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/10/16/235263755/hours-ahead-of-debt-ceiling-congress-scrambles-for-a-deal |
11:03 |
ozbot |
Hours Ahead Of Debt Deadline, Senate Leaders Race To Reach Deal : The Two-Way : NPR |
11:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11349999 = 0.227 BTC [+] {2} |
11:10 |
pankkake |
http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/15/technology/twitter-nyse/ (and loses more money than ever) |
11:10 |
ozbot |
Twitter picks the NYSE - Oct. 15, 2013 |
11:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] |
11:21 |
BigBitz |
Oracle and Twitter. Nice. |
11:22 |
BigBitz |
Huge transfer and a huge IPO. |
11:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00577941 = 0.1965 BTC [+] {2} |
11:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] |
11:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37012 = 0.7402 BTC [-] |
11:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 353 @ 0.00118944 = 0.4199 BTC [+] {4} |
11:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 976 @ 0.00119 = 1.1614 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
11:57 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: deposits pls |
11:57 |
jurov |
if the dentist didn't kill you |
12:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.56000002 = 8.4 BTC [-] {3} |
12:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.56000001 = 6.16 BTC [-] {2} |
12:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.051 = 0.102 BTC [+] |
12:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 186 @ 0.00530324 = 0.9864 BTC [-] {16} |
12:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] |
12:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.56 = 1.68 BTC [-] {2} |
12:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37012 BTC [-] |
13:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00081354 = 2.1152 BTC [-] |
13:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-] |
13:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.56 = 4.48 BTC [-] |
13:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.55 = 3.3 BTC [-] |
13:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.55 = 2.2 BTC [-] |
13:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 888 @ 0.0009831 = 0.873 BTC [+] {2} |
13:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.001199 = 0.1199 BTC [+] |
13:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-] |
13:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00081596 = 4.7734 BTC [+] |
13:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00081888 = 1.433 BTC [+] |
13:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.051 = 0.255 BTC [+] |
13:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12699996 BTC [+] |
13:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.53000001 = 5.3 BTC [-] |
13:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.52855 = 3.1713 BTC [-] {2} |
13:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.415 BTC [+] |
13:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00019 = 0.285 BTC [-] {4} |
13:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 0.051 = 0.51 BTC [+] |
14:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00499997 = 0.405 BTC [+] |
14:03 |
dub |
;;nethash |
14:03 |
gribble |
2469083.34273 |
14:05 |
lewicki |
.d |
14:05 |
ozbot |
267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 1983 blocks | Estimated Change: 5.2016% in 13d 0h 41m 40s |
14:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.051 = 0.255 BTC [+] |
14:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00499998 = 0.275 BTC [+] |
14:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.12699997 = 0.635 BTC [+] |
14:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.12699996 = 0.254 BTC [-] |
14:10 |
jurov |
;;bc,tslb |
14:10 |
gribble |
Error: "bc,tslb" is not a valid command. |
14:10 |
jurov |
;;tslb |
14:10 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 41 minutes and 29 seconds |
14:11 |
jurov |
and 2434 Unconfirmed Transactions.. stuff gonna get interesting |
14:17 |
kleeck |
what the? |
14:17 |
kleeck |
why so long? |
14:24 |
jurov |
kleeck: difficulty jump |
14:25 |
kleeck |
I didn't realize it adjusted so aggressively. |
14:25 |
kleeck |
I suppose it expects to be "grown into". |
14:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.367 BTC [-] |
14:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1181 @ 0.00019789 = 0.2337 BTC [+] |
14:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.002497 = 0.2023 BTC [+] |
14:28 |
pankkake |
1 hour block isn't unusual |
14:29 |
jurov |
yes it's getting better |
14:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.53 = 13.25 BTC [+] |
14:30 |
pankkake |
and well, now a block every two minutes. bitcoin's the new litecoin |
14:31 |
Dimsler |
i don't get it |
14:31 |
pankkake |
get what? |
14:31 |
Dimsler |
because of the lack of confirmation? |
14:32 |
Dimsler |
or faster paced confirmation |
14:32 |
pankkake |
of faster blocks, yes |
14:32 |
Dimsler |
that was bitcoins advantage of litecoin was the ability to maintain a realistic level of transactions |
14:38 |
jcpham |
moore's law be damned |
14:38 |
jcpham |
greedy asic miners |
14:51 |
KRS-1 |
lawl |
14:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53 BTC [+] |
14:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0048 = 0.144 BTC [-] |
14:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.12694582 = 3.0467 BTC [-] {3} |
14:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 35 @ 0.133 = 4.655 BTC [+] |
14:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00470015 = 0.1645 BTC [-] {2} |
15:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.52747826 = 12.132 BTC [-] {5} |
15:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.002497 = 2.497 BTC [+] |
15:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3826 @ 0.00249931 = 9.5624 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
15:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [+] |
15:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6155 @ 0.00081495 = 5.016 BTC [-] |
15:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1860 @ 0.00259451 = 4.8258 BTC [+] {5} |
15:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.00275644 = 0.8545 BTC [+] {2} |
15:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.589 = 4.123 BTC [+] {3} |
15:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1250 @ 0.0027696 = 3.462 BTC [+] {2} |
15:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.002849 = 0.2279 BTC [+] |
15:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00082114 = 4.352 BTC [+] |
15:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.59879999 = 5.988 BTC [+] {3} |
15:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 79 @ 0.0047 = 0.3713 BTC [-] {2} |
15:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 600 @ 0.00487791 = 2.9267 BTC [+] {4} |
16:05 |
benkay |
wow it is hilariously quiet in this parts |
16:10 |
kleeck |
so hilarious. |
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16:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00455897 = 0.155 BTC [-] {4} |
16:46 |
Tom_Servo |
$vwap ^oix |
16:46 |
mpexbot |
Tom_Servo: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
16:46 |
Tom_Servo |
:( |
16:47 |
pankkake |
$help |
16:47 |
mpexbot |
pankkake: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
16:47 |
pankkake |
that was unhelpful |
16:47 |
pankkake |
$help help |
16:47 |
mpexbot |
pankkake: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
16:52 |
TomServo |
!ticker m ^oix |
16:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 196.1038293 / 196.1038293 (1385 shares, 470.20 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) |
16:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 407 @ 0.00450198 = 1.8323 BTC [-] {4} |
16:56 |
pankkake |
kSLAUGHTER is "Working on our Colored Coins Program." |
16:57 |
jurov |
and im busy bugfixing and monkey patching, awaiting irate emails from customers |
16:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00479999 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2} |
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17:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082152 = 3.3682 BTC [+] {2} |
17:33 |
pankkake |
the USA is the new Cyprus http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/10/chase-bank-limits-cash-withdrawals-bans.html |
17:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64989991 BTC [+] |
17:42 |
hdheuzbsiwhdb |
Infowars reporting... |
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17:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1318 @ 0.00082029 = 1.0811 BTC [-] |
18:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 29.73816216 BTC to 7`374 shares, 403284 satoshi per share |
18:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [-] |
18:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [-] |
18:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3611014 BTC [-] |
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18:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [-] |
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19:08 |
jurov |
S.NSA now on live.coinbr.com |
19:08 |
jurov |
sigh, should finally kill that and build something passable |
19:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.561002 = 1.122 BTC [-] |
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19:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.561002 BTC [-] |
19:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.561001 BTC [-] |
19:49 |
nubbins` |
;;seen mircea_popescu |
19:49 |
gribble |
mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 33 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> anyway, off to see the dentist. may your next hours be less painful than mine. |
19:54 |
nubbins` |
also: hi |
19:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5844 = 2.922 BTC [+] {2} |
20:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5611 BTC [-] |
20:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082153 = 3.1218 BTC [+] |
20:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 87 @ 0.0012 = 0.1044 BTC [+] |
20:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00082187 = 2.3423 BTC [+] {2} |
20:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 85 @ 0.0012 = 0.102 BTC [+] {2} |
20:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56100001 = 1.122 BTC [-] {2} |
20:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6395 BTC [+] |
20:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56105001 = 1.1221 BTC [-] {2} |
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20:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56100001 = 1.122 BTC [-] |
20:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1017 @ 0.00082029 = 0.8342 BTC [-] |
20:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.562 = 2.248 BTC [+] |
21:02 |
mike_c |
;;nethash |
21:02 |
gribble |
2421866.55514 |
21:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2003 @ 0.0008142 = 1.6308 BTC [-] {2} |
21:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1334 @ 0.00081947 = 1.0932 BTC [+] {2} |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/#comment-95594 |
21:15 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: answered (a little less harshly) |
21:16 |
mircea_popescu |
there's basically this stable of people i've humiliated over the years who somehow inexplicably figure that if they make the same types of mistakes moar |
21:16 |
mircea_popescu |
it'll all wash. |
21:17 |
asciilifeform |
didn't know the chap was a catalogued troll |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
he's not really a catalogued troll, he's this kid who figures he's pretty smart |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
who knows, in his social circle perhaps he is. obviously bitcoin is a little more demanding. |
21:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 659 @ 0.00017222 = 0.1135 BTC [-] |
21:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1818 @ 0.000151 = 0.2745 BTC [-] {3} |
21:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00515049 = 0.103 BTC [-] {3} |
21:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.562 BTC [+] |
21:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.562 BTC [+] |
21:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3943 @ 0.0001937 = 0.7638 BTC [-] {3} |
21:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00514023 = 0.4164 BTC [-] {4} |
21:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00479075 = 0.3162 BTC [-] {2} |
21:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5995 BTC [+] |
21:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00082663 = 6.861 BTC [+] {3} |
22:05 |
kleeck |
Anyone have the scoop on CoinTerra? |
22:05 |
kleeck |
I was told my an unreliable source that they may not be meeting their hefty NRE payment. |
22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
kleeck we might have been told the same by the same unreliable source. |
22:06 |
kleeck |
:) |
22:06 |
kleeck |
I was hoping for a real source! |
22:06 |
kleeck |
I'll scour the googlenets. |
22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing factual afaik. might ask the guy for your blog. |
22:07 |
jborkl |
There is a reason I did not write a article |
22:07 |
kleeck |
What blog is that? |
22:07 |
kleeck |
jborkl, do you know anything about this? |
22:07 |
kleeck |
is it all "leaked" info or what? |
22:08 |
jborkl |
I went by and saw them in person |
22:08 |
kleeck |
Oh? |
22:08 |
kleeck |
And they were all running around, scrounging for change in the couch cushions? |
22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
22:09 |
kleeck |
"We're only $3,000,000 shy of making the NRE payment!" |
22:10 |
jborkl |
No, they were professional and spent time answering questions |
22:10 |
kleeck |
I'd expect as much. |
22:10 |
kleeck |
What news did they offer you? |
22:10 |
jborkl |
Well I stopped by unexpected |
22:11 |
kleeck |
Did you write this up somewhere? I heard this from the infamous iCEBREAKER. |
22:11 |
jborkl |
But, there were a few things keeping me from placing a order |
22:11 |
kleeck |
Do tell! |
22:12 |
jborkl |
The main thing, they expected to be a 100 to 200 million company, I asked what else they were making besides BTC miners and they didn't have a answer |
22:13 |
kleeck |
Wha... |
22:13 |
jborkl |
I just do not that is realistic since 28nm is the end of the road for now |
22:14 |
kleeck |
Did they state that they have a $5M NRE payment? |
22:14 |
jborkl |
No, but I did not ask about that |
22:14 |
kleeck |
Hm. I'm wondering where this rumour came from. I can't find any verification. |
22:16 |
jborkl |
That does sound correct. I have a good friend that works in worldwide high temp chip. I brought up making bitcoin Asic- he ran through the math for me and it did not work |
22:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5621 BTC [-] |
22:16 |
jborkl |
Unless you were first and took preordees |
22:17 |
jborkl |
Orders |
22:17 |
jborkl |
He thought $10 million to get a 28nm to market was a fair back of the napkin # |
22:18 |
dexX7 |
why didn't you publish your ct reportß |
22:19 |
jborkl |
Because I don't know what to say. I can not figure out if it is one or the other |
22:19 |
jborkl |
They are using a plant in Taiwan for sure |
22:19 |
jborkl |
Well, that is the plab |
22:19 |
jborkl |
Plan |
22:20 |
jborkl |
But tape out is late |
22:21 |
kleeck |
Did they say why? |
22:21 |
dexX7 |
I can not figure out if it is one or the other << so what is the ,"one" and the "other"? |
22:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082273 = 3.1264 BTC [-] |
22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
http://imgur.com/3lHoIcQ |
22:23 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
where the fuck did i get that link from ? |
22:23 |
kleeck |
i dont even |
22:23 |
jborkl_ |
No, but I can run through some basic math, from custom mining stuff I picked up today |
22:24 |
mircea_popescu |
a nm found it. |
22:25 |
jborkl_ |
$320 for a board - populated and assembled. 38 GH - 15 for a clearance cooler- 15 for 1/6 of a power supply |
22:25 |
jborkl_ |
And $5 misc before you buy chips. The only way it works out is if the chips are almost free |
22:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5612 = 2.806 BTC [-] {2} |
22:26 |
jborkl_ |
So, you can not dump $10 million at this point into development for a faster process |
22:26 |
jborkl_ |
It makes no sense |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
jborkl_ i suspect a good chunk of the people mining today are mining to obtain bitcoin, not to obtain dollars. |
22:27 |
kleeck |
^ |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
as the old saying goes, "money is no object" |
22:27 |
kleeck |
It depends on the miner's goal. |
22:27 |
jborkl_ |
True but they want VC money and a VC valuation |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, this is no argument re what you were saying about cointerra |
22:28 |
kleeck |
That will be difficult. THey are about three to six months too late for that, imo. |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
but in the more general form, "you can not dump $10 million"... well, depends who you are. |
22:28 |
jborkl_ |
Well that is true mp |
22:28 |
jborkl_ |
I can only say if it makes sense to me |
22:30 |
kleeck |
You have to keep in mind that there are miners who believe that a Bitcoin will be orders of magnitude more valuable then it currently is. So present day ROI (in fiat) isn't an issue for them. |
22:31 |
mircea_popescu |
especially iof the miners come as a business expense. |
22:32 |
jborkl_ |
Well, I know of in private hands- 4000 BFL chips that have no home |
22:32 |
jborkl_ |
That is just what I know of |
22:33 |
Vexual |
part of friedcats business has been selling big coin |
22:33 |
jborkl_ |
And what I picked up today is top notch for less than $400 (not including chips) |
22:34 |
jborkl_ |
Size of a postcard, maybe a little bigger |
22:34 |
jborkl_ |
Oversized postcard |
22:37 |
Vexual |
shits gonna start becoming a hobby even for chip manufacturers\ |
22:38 |
Vexual |
thisngs are quickly approaching a point where savings in chip manufacturing will have a huge impact on profitabilty |
22:40 |
nubbins` |
yah |
22:41 |
jborkl_ |
They were nice, had a real office in a nice building. I think the plan is to really make something |
22:41 |
Vexual |
who dat? |
22:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00082273 = 1.4809 BTC [-] |
22:42 |
jborkl_ |
Oh where this conv really started |
22:42 |
jborkl_ |
Cointerra |
22:42 |
Vexual |
terra? |
22:42 |
Vexual |
yah |
22:42 |
Vexual |
you bought hw? |
22:42 |
jborkl_ |
I just can not put all the math together to make it work for them |
22:43 |
Vexual |
noone has made the pro hardware that become derigeiure yet |
22:43 |
jborkl_ |
Buy that is my worry, from what I have seen in the past in btc |
22:44 |
Vexual |
terra and am are positioned to make that excellent hardware in my drunken opinion |
22:46 |
Vexual |
to design something now that wont last a few years is throwing money away |
22:50 |
jborkl_ |
Well, that very well could be |
22:50 |
Vexual |
http://www.sea-doo.com/watercraft/sea-doo-spark.html |
22:50 |
ozbot |
Spark 2- or 3-Seat Personal Watercraft: Easy to Ride, Perfect for Family Fun | Sea-Doo US |
22:51 |
Vexual |
half the price of a normal seadoo, same power to weight, half the energy conspumption |
22:51 |
Vexual |
good design |
22:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 42314 @ 0.00017178 = 7.2687 BTC [-] {11} |
22:54 |
Vexual |
theres no money in rushing a half arsed design to market naymore |
22:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7686 @ 0.000167 = 1.2836 BTC [-] |
22:54 |
mircea_popescu |
amen to that. |
22:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 50000 @ 0.0001532 = 7.66 BTC [-] {12} |
23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
.d |
23:03 |
ozbot |
267731249.48242 | Next Diff in 1909 blocks | Estimated Change: 23.7543% in 10d 2h 11m 36s |
23:04 |
Vexual |
its interesting to see these industrial innovations changing the new reserve currency as america loses it's grasp that was built with industrial innovation |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i enjoyed reading the retartdation of the us socialists |
23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
"we hope the evil people insisting we stop spending money we don't have learned their lesson!!! we can never be convinced to put away the credit card!!!" |
23:06 |
Vexual |
can you distill it for me here? |
23:07 |
Vexual |
and when the welfare runs out all the expenses go on actual credit cards? |
23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260225.20 |
23:08 |
ozbot |
The biggest thief in the Bitcoinica debacle? MtGox |
23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
the drama that just won't die |
23:08 |
Vexual |
until the bank calculates that all your shitty possessions arent worth a pinch of shit |
23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
Vexual well... that looks like 2014 really. |
23:08 |
Vexual |
and the three retarded children are a liability |
23:09 |
mircea_popescu |
im curious who the bagholders will be. amusingly, it'll prolly be places like iran |
23:09 |
Vexual |
how so? |
23:09 |
mircea_popescu |
well the chinese are divesting themselves slowly of us paper, |
23:09 |
mircea_popescu |
i know i don't hold any |
23:10 |
mircea_popescu |
watch communist korea be the main foreign holder of us issued bonds or some shit. |
23:10 |
Vexual |
aust has direct currency trading with china since a few months |
23:10 |
Vexual |
usa didnt even notice |
23:11 |
VanCleef |
its legal to have sex with your daughter now in australia or uncle |
23:11 |
Vexual |
or they said" fair enough" |
23:12 |
Vexual |
i doubt that slovakistan |
23:13 |
Vexual |
what may surprise you, is that it is legal here for the police to beat you to death without a trial. |
23:14 |
Vexual |
so many similaities with outr geographical neighbours here in se asia |
23:18 |
Vexual |
and theres a maximum iq for police officers, work that out if were not someones evil experiment into police states |
23:22 |
Vexual |
luckily we have some that act dumb to get in |
23:27 |
Vexual |
compare that to a similar organisation such as hezbollah |
23:27 |
nubbins` |
i thought they took 30 points off if you expressed an interest in a career in law enforcement |
23:29 |
Vexual |
well i guess it depends on the test, it's a two way street |
23:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Who all is disturbed by Taaki's spurt of activity seemingly to rehabilitate himself? |
23:31 |
Vexual |
whats a taaki? |
23:33 |
Vexual |
perhaps you have touched on an allusion i am making |
23:33 |
Vexual |
while the foam from aust pol and hezbollah reaches a similar height in politics, the input changes the output |
23:34 |
Vexual |
and in bitcoin we have a unique, as yet untyested case |
23:35 |
Vexual |
my hypothesis is that bitcoin is quite unstoppable |
23:36 |
mircea_popescu |
Vexual http://trilema.com/2012/amir-taaki-has-done-and-continues-to-do-huge-disservice-to-anyone-serious-involved-in-bitcoin/ |
23:38 |
Vexual |
i read thge last line, too stupid to live |
23:39 |
mircea_popescu |
works. |
23:39 |
nubbins` |
hahaha |
23:39 |
nubbins` |
that whole last paragraph is a gas |
23:40 |
Vexual |
thanks for the distillation, i was irked by reading ums and ahs |
23:40 |
nubbins` |
"like uh…" |
23:43 |
mircea_popescu |
So here you have like a currency, which started out from zero dollars, and there was an example like somebody bought pizza, for like thirty thousand bitcoins, and now each bitcoin is worth like ten dollars. And the reason is, is a lot of these people who are like technological people, they look at this system and they say (she says?) like wow this has like massive potential. |
23:43 |
mircea_popescu |
it's really very high grade stupid distillate. |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
First there's Taaki's Darkwallet project (Whatever the fuck makes a wallet dark, is it the melanin?) then there's his recent surge in activity on the forum. |
23:43 |
nubbins` |
lel |
23:43 |
nubbins` |
like wow! |
23:44 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo it's a dark wallet cause he's from morocco or w/e. |
23:44 |
Vexual |
heres a simple maths question |
23:44 |
Vexual |
if i have 0 funds |
23:45 |
mircea_popescu |
no. |
23:45 |
Vexual |
then everyday for one year i earn 0.05 more than the day before, how much do I have after one year? |
23:45 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Honestly I though it was a dark wallet because even light can't escape the gravity pulling them coinz to his wallet. |
23:45 |
mircea_popescu |
if you have 0 funds the only answer for you is no. |
23:45 |
Vexual |
lol |
23:45 |
Vexual |
ok i start with 0.05 then, if you find it incomprehensible |
23:45 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 365*364/2 *0.05 |
23:45 |
gribble |
3321.5 |
23:46 |
Vexual |
fast |
23:46 |
Vexual |
i like how you cant do 365*365 |
23:46 |
Vexual |
straight pimpin |
23:47 |
Vexual |
pimptax error |
23:47 |
mircea_popescu |
you're drunk aren't you. |
23:47 |
nubbins` |
two nights in a row! |
23:47 |
Vexual |
cant play with 0 |
23:48 |
Vexual |
i don't talk to you every time im drunk |
23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"I am sure the lawyer is not intentionaly commiting purgery" |
23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
i didn't know ver can't speal. |
23:49 |
Vexual |
pergery is lawyer surgery |
23:49 |
mircea_popescu |
;;wk purgation |
23:49 |
gribble |
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/purgation | English[edit]. Noun[edit]. purgation (plural purgations). the act of purging, especially by the use of a purgative · cleansing from sin or guilt. Retrieved from ... |
23:49 |
ozbot |
purgation - Wiktionary |
23:49 |
Vexual |
dissecting the real |
23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Since there are many months until my next court date I took your advice. I've demoted the drive through counsel to paralegal. |
23:50 |
mircea_popescu |
is she hot ? |
23:51 |
Vexual |
mps lawyer tries hard to get him bail |
23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
"but some people are under the mistaken assumption we (Intersango) were some kind of rich company" |
23:53 |
nubbins` |
i thought it was n(n+1)/2? |
23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
lol this is funnay. "o noes, some people are under the mistaken assumption we were a company and like really cool and professional and rich and shit, which is what we were trying to falsely project all along! o noes, and in fact we went splat on the cold sidewalk of reality and now our own web of lies is fucking us in the butt! how unfair!" |
23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` mircea_popescu> you're drunk aren't you. |
23:54 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: The actual paralegal at the firm is. The drive-through attourney is a dude so any orgasms would have to be strictly a power thing. |
23:54 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo therein lies the proof he has more experience than you. HIS paralegal is hot. |
23:54 |
nubbins` |
depends on whether it's a leap year too, i guess |
23:54 |
Vexual |
one is always at an advantage when ones counsel has a vested interest in your success by measure of their own quality of life |
23:55 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: That doesn't speak for his competency though... He apparently spends more on her than the building or his "family"... |
23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe she's worth it. |
23:55 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Probably |
23:55 |
Vexual |
by definition |
23:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5995 BTC [+] |
23:57 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: He sniped her away from the State's attourney's office when he left there. |
23:57 |
nubbins` |
cokeheads next door sound like they're throwing each other at the walls |
23:57 |
mircea_popescu |
the one da that absolutely hated me of the numerous das that didn't like me |
23:57 |
mircea_popescu |
could never get past the fact that i took his secretary. |
23:58 |
mircea_popescu |
the woman was probably the best at her job i ever met. |
23:58 |
Vexual |
sounds like a mcafee story mp |
23:58 |
nubbins` |
lel |
23:58 |
mircea_popescu |
oh ?! |
23:58 |
Vexual |
nubs you need a sorcerer? cokes heads are easy |
23:58 |
nubbins` |
did you bury yourself in sand and place a box over your head when the da came to find his secretary? |
23:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+] |
23:59 |
Vexual |
ill have those cokeheads out and a tasty first year science student in there by two weeks |
23:59 |
nubbins` |
no self-respecting science student would move in there, it's a dive |