Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-08-30 | 2013-09-01 → ↓
00:00 mod6 lol
00:02 ThickAsThieves steange bitcoin ad: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/wp-content/uploads/useful_banner_manager_banners/9-EasyDNSLessCrazyGreen.jpg
00:02 ThickAsThieves stange*
00:02 ThickAsThieves strange*
00:02 hotsocks lol
00:08 assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-ATF.B2] 15 @ 0.01039 = 0.1559 BTC [-]
00:08 assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-ATF.B2] 185 @ 0.0104 = 1.924 BTC [+]
00:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.51 BTC [-]
00:24 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 531 @ 0.01251 = 6.6428 BTC [-]
00:24 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 100 @ 0.0125 = 1.25 BTC [-]
00:24 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 100 @ 0.01248 = 1.248 BTC [-]
00:24 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 257 @ 0.01242 = 3.1919 BTC [-]
00:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.025 = 0.6 BTC [+]
00:29 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003628 = 0.0726 BTC [-]
00:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80 @ 0.003627 = 0.2902 BTC [-]
00:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 135 @ 0.003612 = 0.4876 BTC [-]
00:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00086766 = 3.2103 BTC [-]
00:36 assbot [BTCTC] [FIMB] 4 @ 0.0109 = 0.0436 BTC [+]
00:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.02479 = 0.1983 BTC [+]
00:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.02479 = 0.5206 BTC [+]
00:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02479 = 0.2479 BTC [+]
00:40 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00262 BTC [-]
00:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3025 @ 0.00086802 = 2.6258 BTC [+]
00:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7275 @ 0.00087096 = 6.3362 BTC [+]
00:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02479 BTC [+]
00:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 105 @ 0.024 = 2.52 BTC [-]
00:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024 BTC [-]
00:48 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 2 @ 0.0159 = 0.0318 BTC [-]
00:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.17 = 0.85 BTC [-]
00:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.17 = 1.02 BTC [-]
00:52 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.0033 = 0.0066 BTC [-]
00:53 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003577 = 0.0715 BTC [-]
00:53 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 110 @ 0.003576 = 0.3934 BTC [-]
00:57 fanquake #github
01:04 mod6 \
01:04 mod6 oops
01:10 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.00337 = 0.0101 BTC [+]
01:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.025 = 0.5 BTC [+]
01:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [-]
01:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 999 @ 0.0044 = 4.3956 BTC [-]
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.165 = 0.495 BTC [-]
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.025 = 0.5 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003646 = 0.0729 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003647 = 0.0729 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 235 @ 0.003742 = 0.8794 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80 @ 0.003744 = 0.2995 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003748 = 0.3748 BTC [+]
01:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 245 @ 0.00375 = 0.9188 BTC [+]
01:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 30 @ 0.0035061 = 0.1052 BTC [+]
01:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 9 @ 0.003506 = 0.0316 BTC [-]
01:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 11 @ 0.00350001 = 0.0385 BTC [-]
01:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 1 @ 0.00439 BTC [+]
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1473 @ 0.00087096 = 1.2829 BTC [+]
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5877 @ 0.00087247 = 5.1275 BTC [+]
01:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.51 BTC [-]
01:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
01:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.5 = 5 BTC [-]
01:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003699 = 0.074 BTC [-]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 90 @ 0.0037 = 0.333 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003728 = 0.0746 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 235 @ 0.003748 = 0.8808 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 550 @ 0.003748 = 2.0614 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1183 @ 0.00375 = 4.4363 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003775 = 0.3775 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.003783 = 3.783 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2122 @ 0.003784 = 8.0296 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003785 = 0.3785 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1895 @ 0.003786 = 7.1745 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2250 @ 0.003787 = 8.5208 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1500 @ 0.00379 = 5.685 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 400 @ 0.00379 = 1.516 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 186 @ 0.003795 = 0.7059 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.003795 = 7.59 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3700 @ 0.003796 = 14.0452 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3600 @ 0.003797 = 13.6692 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1236 @ 0.003798 = 4.6943 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.003798 = 7.596 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003799 = 0.3799 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8000 @ 0.003799 = 30.392 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003799 = 0.076 BTC [+]
01:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.165 BTC [-]
02:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.004401 = 0.0572 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003767 = 0.0753 BTC [-]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 160 @ 0.003798 = 0.6077 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5000 @ 0.003801 = 19.005 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003804 = 0.3804 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.003804 = 0.3766 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [-]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 101 @ 0.004347 = 0.439 BTC [-]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.004346 = 0.0174 BTC [-]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 400 @ 0.004345 = 1.738 BTC [-]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 175 @ 0.004342 = 0.7599 BTC [-]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 541 @ 0.004341 = 2.3485 BTC [-]
02:04 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 30 @ 0.003811 = 0.1143 BTC [+]
02:05 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 96 @ 0.003836 = 0.3683 BTC [+]
02:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.003836 = 0.7672 BTC [+]
02:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003836 = 0.0153 BTC [+]
02:06 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1060 @ 0.003836 = 4.0662 BTC [+]
02:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.56 BTC [+]
02:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.56 BTC [+]
02:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.167 = 1.67 BTC [-]
02:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003838 = 0.3838 BTC [+]
02:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003838 = 0.3838 BTC [+]
02:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.003839 = 3.839 BTC [+]
02:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 799 @ 0.00384 = 3.0682 BTC [+]
02:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 201 @ 0.00384 = 0.7718 BTC [+]
02:16 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 21 @ 0.003844 = 0.0807 BTC [+]
02:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 79 @ 0.003844 = 0.3037 BTC [+]
02:26 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.00337 = 0.0067 BTC [+]
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 51 @ 0.165 = 8.415 BTC [-]
02:32 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.168 = 0.84 BTC [+]
02:35 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.00337 = 0.0337 BTC [+]
02:36 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.003377 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
02:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02474 = 0.3711 BTC [+]
02:38 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19 @ 0.003703 = 0.0704 BTC [-]
02:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.499 = 4.998 BTC [-]
02:39 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003702 = 0.037 BTC [-]
02:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.56 BTC [+]
02:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.587 BTC [+]
02:41 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003844 BTC [+]
02:42 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 48 @ 0.0033 = 0.1584 BTC [-]
02:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.59 BTC [+]
02:42 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 38 @ 0.003299 = 0.1254 BTC [-]
02:42 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.00326 = 0.0196 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.00322 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.003213 = 0.0193 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.003213 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.003213 = 0.3213 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.003212 = 0.3212 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 45 @ 0.003212 = 0.1445 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 17 @ 0.003212 = 0.0546 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 50 @ 0.003211 = 0.1606 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.003211 = 0.3211 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 8 @ 0.0032 = 0.0256 BTC [-]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 72 @ 0.0032 = 0.2304 BTC [-]
02:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.599 BTC [+]
02:45 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 15 @ 0.0032 = 0.048 BTC [-]
02:45 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0032 BTC [-]
02:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 2.59 = 23.31 BTC [-]
02:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.59 BTC [-]
02:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1688 = 0.3376 BTC [+]
02:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1689 = 0.3378 BTC [+]
02:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.02474 = 0.2969 BTC [+]
02:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.561 BTC [-]
02:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.004398 = 0.2199 BTC [+]
02:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 312 @ 0.004398 = 1.3722 BTC [+]
~ 19 minutes ~
03:19 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003763 BTC [-]
03:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9 @ 0.003762 = 0.0339 BTC [-]
03:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 18 @ 0.003763 = 0.0677 BTC [+]
03:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00087105 = 6.8813 BTC [-]
03:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00118999 BTC [-]
03:31 thestringpuller .d
03:31 ozbot 65750060.14908 | Next Diff in 830 blocks | Estimated Change: 22.4804% in 4d 10h 57m 35s
03:31 thestringpuller oh wow
03:34 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 380 @ 0.0033 = 1.254 BTC [+]
03:41 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.003763 = 0.1882 BTC [+]
03:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1711 @ 0.00087247 = 1.4928 BTC [+]
03:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4389 @ 0.00087384 = 3.8353 BTC [+]
03:51 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0033 BTC [+]
03:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.0008733 = 0.0017 BTC [-]
03:57 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 23 @ 0.003763 = 0.0865 BTC [+]
03:57 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 477 @ 0.003712 = 1.7706 BTC [-]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003711 = 0.0742 BTC [-]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.00371 = 0.1855 BTC [-]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.0037 = 0.0259 BTC [-]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003688 BTC [-]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 577 @ 0.003655 = 2.1089 BTC [-]
04:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 345 @ 0.003653 = 1.2603 BTC [-]
04:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.511 BTC [-]
04:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.51 BTC [-]
04:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.52 BTC [+]
04:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003766 = 0.0753 BTC [+]
04:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00087105 = 4.8779 BTC [-]
04:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00086953 = 0.9565 BTC [-]
04:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.0038 = 0.0266 BTC [+]
04:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.57 BTC [+]
04:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.57 BTC [+]
04:28 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 70 @ 0.0033 = 0.231 BTC [+]
04:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.02472 = 1.1618 BTC [-]
04:30 assbot [BTCTC] [BFMINES] 5 @ 0.0025 = 0.0125 BTC [+]
04:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.004341 = 0.2171 BTC [-]
04:32 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 13 @ 0.0159 = 0.2067 BTC [-]
04:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02473 BTC [+]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.52 = 5.04 BTC [-]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.51 BTC [-]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.505 BTC [-]
04:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.501 BTC [-]
04:53 Neil ;;nethash
04:53 gribble 657396.275119
04:53 Neil thestringpuller: Diff change will be over 30%; likely 85m or more
04:54 Neil Insane how much hash power is coming online
04:54 Neil Almost feel sorry for a govt wanting to do a 51%
04:55 Neil ;;nethash
04:55 gribble 657396.275119
04:57 Neil https://blockchain.info/address/142BHpdq4wey7PC3Cp5QiUoshF19u3yvHN
04:57 ozbot Bitcoin Address 142BHpdq4wey7PC3Cp5QiUoshF19u3yvHN
04:58 Neil Some dude keeps sending himself satoshis and paying 0.0005 BTC for the privelege. Why?
04:58 Neil Apparently the new dust output rules aren't being respected by all miners, at least if you're willing to pay 0.0005 BTC for it.
04:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02473 = 0.0989 BTC [+]
05:00 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00262 = 0.0052 BTC [-]
05:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.0044 = 0.0176 BTC [+]
05:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00262 BTC [-]
05:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00087384 = 2.9711 BTC [+]
~ 25 minutes ~
05:34 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003747 = 0.0112 BTC [-]
05:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.02473 = 0.5193 BTC [+]
05:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1538 @ 0.00087384 = 1.344 BTC [+]
05:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 362 @ 0.00087394 = 0.3164 BTC [+]
05:38 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 35 @ 0.01591 = 0.5569 BTC [+]
~ 24 minutes ~
06:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.0008733 = 0.0017 BTC [-]
06:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00118999 BTC [-]
06:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.573 = 5.146 BTC [+]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 10 @ 0.001671 = 0.0167 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 60 @ 0.00167 = 0.1002 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1 @ 0.001669 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 25 @ 0.001668 = 0.0417 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 999 @ 0.001666 = 1.6643 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1 @ 0.001612 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.00161 = 1.61 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 10 @ 0.001606 = 0.0161 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 3 @ 0.001602 = 0.0048 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 500 @ 0.001601 = 0.8005 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 473 @ 0.001582 = 0.7483 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 6918 @ 0.001581 = 10.9374 BTC [-]
06:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0242 BTC [-]
06:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 49 @ 0.0242 = 1.1858 BTC [-]
06:19 thestringpuller !last btctc dms.selling
06:19 assbot Last trade for DMS.SELLING on BTCTC was at 0.01242 BTC [-]
06:19 thestringpuller !last btctc dms.mining
06:19 assbot Last trade for DMS.MINING on BTCTC was at 0.0033 BTC [+]
06:19 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.0033 + 0.01242
06:19 gribble 0.01572
06:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02473 = 0.0495 BTC [+]
06:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 824 @ 0.0029 = 2.3896 BTC [-]
06:21 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 1 @ 0.002501 BTC [-]
06:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.508 BTC [-]
06:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.508 BTC [-]
06:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.507 = 5.014 BTC [-]
06:24 thestringpuller ;;calc (0.0033 + 0.01242 + (0.00003894)
06:24 gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
06:24 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.0033 + 0.01242 + (0.00003894)
06:24 gribble 0.01575894
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.581 BTC [+]
06:27 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.0033 + 0.01242 + (0.00003894)
06:27 gribble 0.01575894
06:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0044 = 0.044 BTC [+]
06:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09807 = 0.1961 BTC [+]
06:46 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 18 @ 0.09806 = 1.7651 BTC [-]
06:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 17 @ 0.003727 = 0.0634 BTC [-]
06:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 63 @ 0.003728 = 0.2349 BTC [+]
06:57 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003656 = 0.0731 BTC [-]
06:58 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.003655 = 1.0965 BTC [-]
06:58 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 458 @ 0.003654 = 1.6735 BTC [-]
06:58 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 272 @ 0.003653 = 0.9936 BTC [-]
07:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003695 = 0.0185 BTC [+]
07:03 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 283 @ 0.003653 = 1.0338 BTC [-]
07:04 dexX7 ;;later tell mircea_popescu "watch out for the 'largest bitcoin betting site' :D http://bitcoinlivebets.com/ ... payed 6 btc on the forums for one ad slot"
07:04 gribble The operation succeeded.
07:08 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09807 = 0.1961 BTC [+]
07:20 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 3 @ 0.002501 = 0.0075 BTC [-]
07:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02473 BTC [+]
07:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.0044 BTC [+]
07:30 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 68 @ 0.01245 = 0.8466 BTC [+]
07:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2 @ 0.000237 = 0.0005 BTC [+]
~ 17 minutes ~
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 7 @ 0.004352 = 0.0305 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 52 @ 0.004351 = 0.2263 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 300 @ 0.00435 = 1.305 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 109 @ 0.004341 = 0.4732 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004341 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 525 @ 0.004336 = 2.2764 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 9 @ 0.00433 = 0.039 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 298 @ 0.004329 = 1.29 BTC [-]
07:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.01285 = 0.6425 BTC [+]
07:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1000 @ 0.0043 = 4.3 BTC [-]
07:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 50 @ 0.01591 = 0.7955 BTC [+]
07:53 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 5 @ 0.118 = 0.59 BTC [+]
07:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.512 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.511 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.51 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.509 BTC [-]
07:58 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 22 @ 0.0125 = 0.275 BTC [-]
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 9.07000000 BTC to 907 shares, 1000000 satoshi per share
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 1.00978800 BTC to 2`019`576 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] [PAID] 26.00000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 65000 satoshi per share
08:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0247 = 0.1729 BTC [-]
08:17 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003618 BTC [-]
08:19 thestringpuller !last btctc dms.mining
08:19 assbot Last trade for DMS.MINING on BTCTC was at 0.0033 BTC [+]
08:19 thestringpuller !last btctc dms.selling
08:19 assbot Last trade for DMS.SELLING on BTCTC was at 0.0125 BTC [-]
08:19 thestringpuller assbot should collect the ask and sell
08:20 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
08:20 gribble 132.23
08:20 thestringpuller but thats just my opinion man
08:21 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0022 = 0.0088 BTC [-]
08:25 thestringpuller !last btctc DMS.PURCHASE
08:25 assbot Last trade for DMS.PURCHASE on BTCTC was at 0.01591 BTC [+]
08:29 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003695 = 0.0111 BTC [+]
08:29 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003695 = 0.0111 BTC [+]
08:30 kakobrekla lol
08:30 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003695 = 0.0185 BTC [+]
08:30 kakobrekla this is pretty fucked up
08:30 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148827.msg3048898#msg3048898
08:30 ozbot [BitFunder] G.ASICMINER-PT
08:31 kakobrekla seems like a bunch of kids jerking eachothers dicks
08:31 ThickAsThieves yeah it's gotten out of hand
08:32 kakobrekla one more butthurt than the other also
08:33 thestringpuller ThickAsThieves can we talk a moment before my battery goes nuts
08:34 ThickAsThieves the issues at hand are all easily solved
08:34 ThickAsThieves just requires a few minutes attention
08:35 ThickAsThieves talk
08:37 mircea_popescu dexX7 it's fascinating how everything starts out "the largest"
08:43 ThickAsThieves and funny how website scams cant help but look like scams merely by their design style
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004301 = 0.043 BTC [+]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 990 @ 0.0043 = 4.257 BTC [-]
08:43 mircea_popescu and further funny how nobody seems to realise that starting your life by comitting to a hugely ridiculous and vastly verifiable lie is pretty bad for your credibility.
08:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.545 = 5.09 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.546 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.548 BTC [+]
08:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.582 BTC [+]
08:44 mircea_popescu what if they're successful, ad absurdum ? i'll meet the guy at a conference in 2023 and say, o, you're the guy that was lieing in 2013 ?
08:44 mircea_popescu what's he gonna do then, herp at me really hard ?
08:45 ThickAsThieves well he will ask you to eat his pudding
08:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.1699 = 1.0194 BTC [+]
08:45 mircea_popescu aok
08:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 44 @ 0.17 = 7.48 BTC [+]
08:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.188 BTC [+]
08:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1896 = 0.7584 BTC [+]
08:45 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.1898 = 1.1388 BTC [+]
08:46 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.1898 = 0.949 BTC [+]
08:46 mircea_popescu ;;google "eat my pudding"
08:46 gribble Dinner for Schmucks (2010) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0427152/quotes>; You can eat my pudding. | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/pages/You-can-eat-my-pudding/193977060618804>; Before i eat my pudding i make sure i lick the lid until its clean ...: <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Before-i-eat-my-pudding-i-make-sure-i-lick-the-lid-until-its- (1 more message)
08:46 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves am i missing some subtext thar ? :D
08:47 ThickAsThieves ;;google proof is in the pudding
08:47 gribble Urban Dictionary: the proof is in the pudding: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20proof%20is%20in%20the%20pudding>; The proof of the pudding - The Phrase Finder: <http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html>; The Origin Of 'Proof Is In The Pudding' : NPR: <http://www.npr.org/2012/08/24/159975466/corrections-and-comments-to-stories>
08:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0247 = 0.0988 BTC [-]
08:48 ThickAsThieves sorry, i was twisting it
08:48 ThickAsThieves i wondered if it would translate
08:48 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.0144 = 0.0576 BTC [-]
08:48 mircea_popescu a a
08:48 mircea_popescu well so duh, i'll link to logs.bitcoin-assets.com.
08:48 mircea_popescu not like it's hard to prove.
08:49 ThickAsThieves sorta like the end justifies the means, in common use
08:49 mircea_popescu but what the fuck is the end ? making sure everyone takes you for a scammer ?
08:49 ThickAsThieves no, making more money than you
08:50 mircea_popescu so fucking stupid that shit.
08:50 mircea_popescu why not just have a bigger penis than me. what the fuck happened to "doing something useful"
08:50 ThickAsThieves the way people are these days, scamming isnt always hard to shake
08:50 ThickAsThieves even OJ Simpson had a movie career after killing his wife
08:51 mircea_popescu anyway, so what's the plan, it'll call itself BiTBeTeC or BTBTC for short and print somewhere a line on the website going OVER 1500000000 BTC BET !!!
08:52 ThickAsThieves hehe
08:52 mircea_popescu it feels like we're back to the old webpage days when people were adding visitor counters.
08:52 ThickAsThieves this is one point of yours that i havent bought into yet
08:52 ThickAsThieves i CAN believe it
08:52 mircea_popescu i guess it's my mistake that in adding volume lines on the actual sites i somehow gave the idiots the impression that a "real good copy" TM consists of LARGER DIGITS
08:52 ThickAsThieves but without evidence it's hard
08:52 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves which ?
08:53 ThickAsThieves that the exchange might be complicit
08:53 ThickAsThieves actively
08:53 mircea_popescu theswede has 50k btc of his own to just throw back and forth ?
08:53 ThickAsThieves the labcoin IPO threw around about 15k
08:54 ThickAsThieves twas btcgarden that was about 25k
08:54 mircea_popescu i recall you were here a month or so back when we did the math, and it was something ridiculous top the tune of 50k
08:54 ThickAsThieves when you added the current scams
08:54 ThickAsThieves was around there
08:54 mircea_popescu but anyway : there's two ways this can work. either burnside gave them "margin" on account that "he knows what he's doing" and "that's what exchanges do" iho,
08:54 ThickAsThieves doubtful
08:55 mircea_popescu or else he has a security hole that he's too ashamed to admit.
08:55 ThickAsThieves surely even he could not survive 40k btc from thin air
08:55 ThickAsThieves or even half that
08:56 mircea_popescu these'd be the constructions that i can see making him two different flavours of stupid rather than actively complicit.
08:56 ThickAsThieves or a quarter
08:56 mircea_popescu exactly.
08:56 mircea_popescu so play along buster.
08:56 mircea_popescu and what is this "Even he" ?
08:56 ThickAsThieves you think it's less likely that it's the scammers throwing their weight around?
08:56 ThickAsThieves for example
08:56 mircea_popescu burnside is a minor shit that ran a ltc exchange for a while to little avail, and then jumped on trying to make a glbse clone last year.
08:57 ThickAsThieves suppose ActM, BTCGarden, Labcoin, and maybe some older ones are all the same group
08:57 mircea_popescu when did he become some sort of authority ? you probably have more assets than he ever did.
08:57 ThickAsThieves surely theyd have amassed that kind of coin
08:57 ThickAsThieves to now throw momentum into their scams
08:57 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they are mostly same group i'm pretty sure.
08:57 mircea_popescu nah, not quite.
08:57 ThickAsThieves for example,
08:57 mircea_popescu i keep track of what scammers got.
08:57 ThickAsThieves the labcoin IPO was 7k
08:58 mircea_popescu giga split with a lot of coin, but he's bought miners for them
08:58 ThickAsThieves and i saw 15k of deposits
08:58 ThickAsThieves orders*
08:58 ThickAsThieves so I played
08:58 mircea_popescu owens etc group never made enough, kenna split with a lot vbuyt sold / lost most
08:58 ThickAsThieves and banked
08:58 mircea_popescu there just isn't the coin available in scammor camp
08:59 ThickAsThieves i think its safe to say that 7k coins got extracted from labcoin buyers
08:59 mircea_popescu i guess there's always the possibility that some smooth operator got the wool over the eyes of a backer, and bought a bunch of coins to finance a set of scams.
08:59 ThickAsThieves which could easily have made up part of the btcgarden buyin
08:59 ThickAsThieves add ActM to that
08:59 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i think that'd be way overshot.
08:59 ThickAsThieves and you start getting there
09:00 mircea_popescu the muppets don't have that much. my guess is 500 to 2k on the brightest side.
09:00 ThickAsThieves i think you underestimate how much coin is up for grabs
09:00 mircea_popescu well if we agreed it wouldn't be fun.
09:00 ThickAsThieves :)
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0043 = 0.043 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.004251 = 0.0255 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.00425 = 0.1063 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 156 @ 0.004219 = 0.6582 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 39 @ 0.004217 = 0.1645 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 55 @ 0.004196 = 0.2308 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 220 @ 0.004195 = 0.9229 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.004172 = 0.025 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.004171 = 0.1043 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.004152 = 1.038 BTC [-]
09:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 208 @ 0.004151 = 0.8634 BTC [-]
09:05 mircea_popescu what movie career did oj simpson have ?!
09:05 mircea_popescu what the fuck, i have raw vids of about a dozen girls im probably going to straight delete as i can't be bothered to have edited
09:05 Diablo-D3 the naked gun
09:05 mircea_popescu do THEY have movie careers too ?!
09:06 ThickAsThieves he had a few random cameos
09:06 Diablo-D3 the naked gun
09:06 Diablo-D3 seriously
09:07 LorenzoMoney OJ SIMPON's career in film http://www.imdb.com/find?q=o.j.+simpson&s=all
09:07 LorenzoMoney actually this is it http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001740/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
09:07 LorenzoMoney he was in the naked gun, the towering inferno, capricorn one
09:08 LorenzoMoney Frogmen, CIA Code Name: Alexa
09:08 Diablo-D3 wait, he wa sin other shit too?
09:08 Diablo-D3 WHY
09:08 LorenzoMoney http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001740/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
09:08 Diablo-D3 he was just a second rate football player
09:08 ThickAsThieves those are old movies
09:08 ozbot O.J. Simpson - IMDb
09:08 ThickAsThieves mostly he only was in naked gun
09:08 Diablo-D3 the only reason he was in the naked gun is because they needed a dumb nigger
09:08 LorenzoMoney no mostly he was in these: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001740/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
09:09 ThickAsThieves pay attention
09:09 ThickAsThieves the relevance is AFTER he murdered
09:09 ThickAsThieves not every movie he ever showed up in
09:10 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 6 @ 0.01591 = 0.0955 BTC [+]
09:10 LorenzoMoney Oh I have been insulted by TAT
09:10 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: if the gloves dont fit, you must acquit
09:10 LorenzoMoney the question was what Movies has OJ SImpson been in
09:10 Diablo-D3 and the answer is
09:10 Diablo-D3 one, the naked gun
09:11 Diablo-D3 b movies no one has heard of never count
09:11 LorenzoMoney just shut up and make me money
09:11 Diablo-D3 just shut up and make me oil, Lorenzo
09:11 LorenzoMoney Diablo-D3: that was so clever! wait while I stand in shock
09:11 LorenzoMoney a cultural reference that uses my name. Hip is written all over you
09:12 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: could i push you s.mpoe in exchamge fr isk to pay my eve subscription?
09:13 ThickAsThieves being told to pay attention is not an insult
09:13 ThickAsThieves but indicitave of your personality
09:13 ThickAsThieves is your reaction
09:13 thestringpuller exchange* for*
09:14 ThickAsThieves sure
09:14 Diablo-D3 no* one* cares*
09:14 ThickAsThieves you are a unique *
09:15 Diablo-D3 I see what you did thar.
09:15 Diablo-D3 I think unicode actually has a snowflake character, btw
09:15 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 225 @ 0.01286 = 2.8935 BTC [+]
09:15 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 275 @ 0.01287 = 3.5393 BTC [+]
09:16 mircea_popescu thestringpuller yep
09:16 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 22 @ 0.1987 = 4.3714 BTC [-]
09:16 Scrat ;;asks 100000000
09:17 gribble There are currently 39497.025 bitcoins offered at or under 100000000.0 USD, worth 619456548.901 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0088 seconds
09:17 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 225 @ 0.01591 = 3.5798 BTC [+]
09:17 Scrat clowncar exchange running out of btc
09:18 mircea_popescu clowncar exchange lmao
09:18 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
09:18 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.81022, Best ask: 144.27039, Bid-ask spread: 0.46017, Last trade: 143.81021, 24 hour volume: 54609.74048310, 24 hour low: 128.89999, 24 hour high: 144.50000, 24 hour vwap: 137.43557
09:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00118 BTC [-]
09:18 ThickAsThieves we're rich!
09:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 838 @ 0.00087394 = 0.7324 BTC [+]
09:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4212 @ 0.00087396 = 3.6811 BTC [+]
09:18 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves speak for yourself fatcat. i'm poverty stricken in my poverty strike.
09:19 ThickAsThieves shoulda used gox
09:20 LorenzoMoney Oh a confession
09:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00087396 = 5.069 BTC [+]
09:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0247 BTC [-]
09:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.19 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 540 @ 0.003694 = 1.9948 BTC [-]
09:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024 = 0.048 BTC [-]
09:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024 = 0.048 BTC [-]
09:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024 BTC [-]
09:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02399 BTC [-]
09:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02398 = 0.1199 BTC [-]
09:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.02397 = 0.3116 BTC [-]
09:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.02396 = 0.3834 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 2.45 = 4.9 BTC [-]
09:39 mircea_popescu there should be a meme thing, "hey yo, we know you're poor so we put some poverty in your poverty so you can be poor while you're poor"
09:39 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 10 @ 0.01591 = 0.1591 BTC [+]
09:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 136 @ 0.004155 = 0.5651 BTC [+]
09:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 198 @ 0.004152 = 0.8221 BTC [-]
09:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 392 @ 0.004151 = 1.6272 BTC [-]
09:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 274 @ 0.004151 = 1.1374 BTC [-]
09:40 kakobrekla id put some poverty in my poverty but im all out
09:40 mircea_popescu lol
09:40 kakobrekla so porr.
09:40 kakobrekla poor
09:40 mircea_popescu watch that porr means sexy in slovenian or some shit
09:40 kakobrekla it just might
09:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.514 BTC [-]
09:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 17 @ 0.004156 = 0.0707 BTC [+]
09:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 136 @ 0.004155 = 0.5651 BTC [-]
09:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 31 @ 0.004152 = 0.1287 BTC [-]
09:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 126 @ 0.004151 = 0.523 BTC [-]
09:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 690 @ 0.004102 = 2.8304 BTC [-]
09:45 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves anyway, wasn't btcgarden fully refunded ?
09:45 dexX7 ipo price + fees
09:45 mircea_popescu so consequently it can't count in our discussion.
09:46 dexX7 what's the topic?
09:46 dexX7 "how are scams on btct done?"
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 40 @ 0.165 = 6.6 BTC [-]
09:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.514 BTC [-]
09:52 mircea_popescu something like that
09:54 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/467/usd-btc-exchange-rate-to-top-125-at-23-45/
09:54 mircea_popescu i guess this is pretty lulzy in retrospect.
09:54 ozbot BitBet - USD/BTC exchange rate to top $125 at 23:45 September 16, 2013
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.513 BTC [-]
09:54 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
09:54 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 143.02837, Best ask: 143.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41163, Last trade: 143.44000, 24 hour volume: 55193.90154691, 24 hour low: 128.89999, 24 hour high: 144.50000, 24 hour vwap: 137.57729
09:55 Diablo-D3 wtf here we go again
09:56 Scrat "good goy, now spend more of your shekels on my exchange"
09:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.004392 = 0.0088 BTC [+]
09:59 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=284138.0
09:59 mircea_popescu kickass title.
09:59 ozbot Lawsuite against BFL
09:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4108 @ 0.00087396 = 3.5902 BTC [+]
09:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4392 @ 0.00087455 = 3.841 BTC [+]
10:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 400 @ 0.004384 = 1.7536 BTC [-]
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.53 = 10.12 BTC [+]
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [-]
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.00999 = 0.04 BTC [-]
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 30 @ 0.0033 = 0.099 BTC [+]
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 25 @ 0.01287 = 0.3218 BTC [+]
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 225 @ 0.01288 = 2.898 BTC [+]
10:04 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 20 @ 0.01288 = 0.2576 BTC [+]
10:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.004376 = 0.0175 BTC [-]
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2 @ 0.0249 = 0.0498 BTC [-]
10:11 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 158 @ 0.0033 = 0.5214 BTC [+]
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 600 @ 0.0032 = 1.92 BTC [+]
10:18 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 938 @ 0.01591 = 14.9236 BTC [+]
10:20 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003693 = 0.0739 BTC [-]
10:20 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 227 @ 0.003694 = 0.8385 BTC [+]
10:20 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.003698 = 7.396 BTC [+]
10:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.00373 = 0.1865 BTC [+]
10:21 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 31 @ 0.003737 = 0.1158 BTC [+]
10:22 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 87 @ 0.00333 = 0.2897 BTC [+]
10:23 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.00334 = 0.334 BTC [+]
10:25 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 457 @ 0.00335 = 1.531 BTC [+]
10:28 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> so consequently it can't count in our discussion. <<<< possibly, but it's a wtf worth exploring
10:28 ThickAsThieves it was like 25k btc
10:28 ThickAsThieves and it sold out
10:29 ThickAsThieves odd that i'm one of the few people wondering where the hell that much coin came from
10:29 ThickAsThieves for an IPO with barely any press and no real history
10:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.53 BTC [+]
10:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 256 @ 0.003737 = 0.9567 BTC [+]
10:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2000 @ 0.003739 = 7.478 BTC [+]
10:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 15 @ 0.003774 = 0.0566 BTC [+]
10:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 279 @ 0.003774 = 1.0529 BTC [+]
10:31 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 115 @ 0.00329 = 0.3784 BTC [-]
10:32 mircea_popescu you have to admit the "we made it up" is by far the simpler explanation
10:32 mircea_popescu occam razor and all that.
10:33 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 450 @ 0.0033 = 1.485 BTC [+]
10:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.55 BTC [+]
10:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 3 @ 0.004199 = 0.0126 BTC [-]
10:39 mircea_popescu pankkake lol what forums didja get banned on?
10:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.53 = 12.65 BTC [-]
10:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.00999 = 0.1998 BTC [-]
10:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BFMINES] 5 @ 0.0025 = 0.0125 BTC [+]
10:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.004303 = 1.0758 BTC [+]
11:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003755 = 0.0751 BTC [-]
11:01 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003653 = 0.0731 BTC [-]
11:01 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80 @ 0.003653 = 0.2922 BTC [-]
11:03 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 250 @ 0.003772 = 0.943 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 33 @ 0.003772 = 0.1245 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.003772 = 0.7544 BTC [+]
11:04 dexX7 well btc-garden has some history in china and was probably only unknown to us westeners
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 17 @ 0.003772 = 0.0641 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 206 @ 0.003772 = 0.777 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24 @ 0.003774 = 0.0906 BTC [+]
11:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.004301 = 0.2151 BTC [-]
11:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.004302 = 0.2151 BTC [+]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 150 @ 0.004305 = 0.6458 BTC [+]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 488 @ 0.0033 = 1.6104 BTC [+]
11:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1 @ 0.00319 BTC [-]
11:10 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 189 @ 0.003772 = 0.7129 BTC [-]
11:11 pankkake mircea_popescu: mostly French forums (one multiple times). I remember blogs (last one was Adria Richards, even banned me from reading), what.cd
11:11 kakobrekla what did you do on what?
11:11 mircea_popescu lmao what! what'd you do to the richards character
11:12 pankkake piss off people?
11:12 kakobrekla hehe
11:12 pankkake I wrote that her actions were actually discouraging women to get info the profession
11:12 pankkake it wasn't even harsh
11:12 mircea_popescu dexX7 not quite.
11:12 kakobrekla pankkake you seem to be a natural
11:12 mircea_popescu pankkake well yeah, the sane criticisms are the worst from what i see.
11:13 mircea_popescu anyway, where is that thing
11:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00087255 = 3.7956 BTC [-]
11:13 mircea_popescu ;;google trolling something awful competition
11:13 gribble The Trolling Something Awful competition pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-trolling-something-awful-competition/>; Something Awful - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful>; Trolls and the trolls who troll them | HASTAC: <http://www.hastac.org/blogs/whitneyphillips/trolls-and-trolls-who-troll-them>
11:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.53 = 5.06 BTC [-]
11:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02463 = 0.1232 BTC [+]
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00087255 = 3.7956 BTC [-]
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00087075 = 6.5306 BTC [-]
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5535 @ 0.00086953 = 4.8128 BTC [-]
11:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 8 @ 0.02479 = 0.1983 BTC [-]
11:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.0248 = 0.4464 BTC [+]
11:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.024959 = 0.599 BTC [+]
11:18 pankkake ok actually my comment was harsh
11:18 pankkake The only thing to retain from this article: don’t talk at a tech conference if there is a woman nearby.
11:19 pankkake Now, will this help women get into tech? Of course not, they will feel shunned. I’d like to have more women there, but batshit insane feminists will not allow it.
11:23 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.189 BTC [-]
11:24 mircea_popescu lol okay then
11:24 mircea_popescu the problem is not batshit insane feminists. the problem is there's a group of morons, adria richards being a fine example, sandra sharp being anothjer fine example
11:24 pankkake well the problem is the people who listen, they're larger
11:25 mircea_popescu who KNOW they dion't belong there, and KNOW that actual competent women a) would make them look bad and b) aren't likely to bother arguing politics with them
11:25 mircea_popescu and so they make this desperate ploy essentially union-like in its nature
11:25 mircea_popescu to carve themselves a little territory that may be defended on any other grounds but intellectual ability and professional competence
11:25 mircea_popescu such as, cunt. that'd be good.
11:26 mircea_popescu the same shit is going on in the states with the race politics thing, there's some incompetent niggers whio would like to exclude competent black people from jobs
11:26 mircea_popescu like, you know, the low effort high pay ones such as state senator.
11:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 370 @ 0.0002261 = 0.0837 BTC [-]
11:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 398 @ 0.0002102 = 0.0837 BTC [-]
11:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 602 @ 0.00021002 = 0.1264 BTC [-]
11:29 KRS1 thats why a nigga like me always be on my grind, im just a squirrel in this world tryin to get a nut...ya feel me.
11:30 kakobrekla looking for nuts? theres plenty on teh forums.
11:30 mircea_popescu i don't, i'm jus' guessin'
11:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 100 @ 0.000801 = 0.0801 BTC [-]
11:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 50 @ 0.0008 = 0.04 BTC [-]
11:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.00075 BTC [-]
11:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.00074 BTC [-]
11:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1826 @ 0.0007003 = 1.2787 BTC [-]
11:40 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003771 = 0.0754 BTC [-]
11:40 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 117 @ 0.003772 = 0.4413 BTC [+]
11:40 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003773 = 0.3773 BTC [+]
11:41 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 91 @ 0.003774 = 0.3434 BTC [+]
11:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.004199 = 1.0498 BTC [-]
11:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.0042 = 1.05 BTC [+]
11:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 161 @ 0.003774 = 0.6076 BTC [+]
11:45 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 83 @ 0.00378 = 0.3137 BTC [+]
11:46 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6 @ 0.003783 = 0.0227 BTC [+]
11:46 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 18 @ 0.09805 = 1.7649 BTC [-]
11:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 46 @ 0.09804 = 4.5098 BTC [-]
11:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 25 @ 0.09802 = 2.4505 BTC [-]
11:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.09801 = 0.9801 BTC [-]
11:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 25 @ 0.09802 = 2.4505 BTC [+]
11:50 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 148 @ 0.002671 = 0.3953 BTC [+]
11:51 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 225 @ 0.002672 = 0.6012 BTC [+]
11:52 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 20 @ 0.002674 = 0.0535 BTC [+]
11:55 ThickAsThieves corporate espionage! http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/31/4679260/htc-top-designers-reportedly-in-custody-after-stealing-trade-secrets
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 20 @ 0.00275 = 0.055 BTC [+]
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1986 = 0.7944 BTC [-]
11:58 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 5 @ 0.00285 = 0.0143 BTC [+]
12:00 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 5 @ 0.002999 = 0.015 BTC [+]
12:00 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 1 @ 0.002999 BTC [+]
12:01 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2885 BTC [+]
12:02 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.003374 BTC [+]
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 5 @ 0.003 = 0.015 BTC [+]
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.003374 = 0.0067 BTC [+]
12:03 mircea_popescu heh
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 365 @ 0.00086953 = 0.3174 BTC [-]
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00086838 = 1.9973 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 1 @ 0.003199 BTC [+]
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC [+]
12:07 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 100 @ 0.00324 = 0.324 BTC [+]
12:09 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 138 @ 0.00325 = 0.4485 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 473 @ 0.001778 = 0.841 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 10 @ 0.001779 = 0.0178 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.001791 = 1.791 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1011 @ 0.001795 = 1.8147 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 60 @ 0.001797 = 0.1078 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 446 @ 0.001799 = 0.8024 BTC [+]
12:11 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
12:11 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 144.22001, Best ask: 144.99995, Bid-ask spread: 0.77994, Last trade: 144.21010, 24 hour volume: 29882.59233501, 24 hour low: 134.36270, 24 hour high: 146.01616, 24 hour vwap: 139.63425
12:20 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.2978 = 1.489 BTC [+]
12:21 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00262 = 0.0052 BTC [-]
12:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.189 BTC [-]
12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00086744 = 5.0312 BTC [-]
12:27 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.003781 = 0.3743 BTC [-]
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [+]
12:36 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 103 @ 0.003781 = 0.3894 BTC [-]
12:38 FabianB $avg
12:38 mpexbot FabianB: 132.94
12:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 66 @ 0.004199 = 0.2771 BTC [-]
12:39 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24 @ 0.003783 = 0.0908 BTC [+]
12:39 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003783 = 0.3783 BTC [+]
12:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35 @ 0.00086766 = 0.0304 BTC [+]
12:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9979 @ 0.00087132 = 8.6949 BTC [+]
12:42 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003798 = 0.3798 BTC [+]
12:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.525 BTC [-]
12:46 assbot [BTCTC] [CB.IDIFF-O] 50 @ 0.009899 = 0.495 BTC [+]
12:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.003374 BTC [+]
12:51 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003798 = 0.076 BTC [+]
13:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 568 @ 0.003696 = 2.0993 BTC [-]
13:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 694 @ 0.003694 = 2.5636 BTC [-]
13:05 fractal any news on this bet? http://bitbet.us/bet/520/bitfury-eu-august-orders-will-ship-before-1st/
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12 @ 0.003796 = 0.0456 BTC [+]
13:06 fractal is the resolution exactly 7 hours away?
13:11 mircea_popescu it's not gonna happen until after that cuttof.
13:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 19 @ 0.003796 = 0.0721 BTC [+]
13:15 fractal ok thanks. how long does the usual process take?
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 27 @ 0.003796 = 0.1025 BTC [+]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80 @ 0.003798 = 0.3038 BTC [+]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003798 = 0.3798 BTC [+]
13:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 53 @ 0.003799 = 0.2013 BTC [+]
13:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02459 = 0.2213 BTC [-]
13:16 mircea_popescu i don't know it's ever been more than a day or two
13:16 fractal punin: "We also found a noticeable voltage drop on the IOVDD chain when all 16 cards are plugged in (down to 1V66 from 1V8). This will get fixed (hopefully) in next revision on M-boards, that is already in production. This should help lower the errors and noise on Bus D." looks like their 400Gh units are underperforming on hashrate...
13:17 fractal ok... so if people post to the forums who receive orders tomorrow, those wouldn't be included in the bet timeframe, right?
13:19 mircea_popescu right.
13:20 fractal ok... and in which timezone is the cutoff?
13:23 fractal ;)
13:23 mircea_popescu what;'s the bet say anyway, by sept 1st ? on sept 1st ?
13:23 mircea_popescu before 1st. so midnight gmt
13:23 fractal sept 1 happens 24 times in different timezones
13:23 fractal gmt ok thanks
13:23 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/faq/#17
13:23 ozbot FAQ BitBet
13:23 fractal ah didnt see that. ok. thanks
13:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00086744 = 1.7349 BTC [-]
13:30 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 58 @ 0.003374 = 0.1957 BTC [+]
13:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.525 BTC [-]
13:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.513 = 7.539 BTC [-]
13:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.513 = 5.026 BTC [-]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 66 @ 0.004199 = 0.2771 BTC [-]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.0042 = 0.42 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 457 @ 0.004299 = 1.9646 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 400 @ 0.0043 = 1.72 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 986 @ 0.0043 = 4.2398 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.00431 = 2.155 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.00432 = 2.16 BTC [+]
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 416 @ 0.004328 = 1.8004 BTC [+]
13:34 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 3 @ 0.0125 = 0.0375 BTC [-]
13:34 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 2 @ 0.01245 = 0.0249 BTC [-]
13:34 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 70 @ 0.01245 = 0.8715 BTC [-]
13:34 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 163 @ 0.01244 = 2.0277 BTC [-]
13:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003773 = 0.0755 BTC [-]
13:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 145 @ 0.003797 = 0.5506 BTC [+]
13:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 88 @ 0.003799 = 0.3343 BTC [+]
13:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.003799 = 1.1397 BTC [+]
13:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.003799 = 0.7598 BTC [+]
13:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003799 = 0.3799 BTC [+]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02459 = 0.0492 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02404 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02404 = 0.0481 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02403 = 0.0481 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02403 = 0.3605 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02397 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02396 = 0.0719 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02395 = 0.3593 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.02353 = 0.2824 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.02352 = 1.4112 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02351 = 0.2351 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0235 = 1.175 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0235 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0235 = 0.047 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0232 = 0.0696 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.02302 = 0.5295 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.02302 = 0.8748 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02301 = 0.1151 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.02301 = 0.1841 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.023 = 0.46 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 43 @ 0.023 = 0.989 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.023 = 0.069 BTC [-]
13:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.023 = 0.598 BTC [-]
13:38 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80 @ 0.003798 = 0.3038 BTC [-]
13:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.512 BTC [-]
13:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 51 @ 0.004137 = 0.211 BTC [-]
13:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 204 @ 0.004136 = 0.8437 BTC [-]
13:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.004109 = 1.0273 BTC [-]
13:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 199 @ 0.004108 = 0.8175 BTC [-]
13:48 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01588 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.6498 BTC [+]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.51 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.508 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.499 = 4.998 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.498 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.493 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.492 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.491 = 4.982 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.0008733 = 0.0017 BTC [+]
13:50 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.6498 = 1.9494 BTC [+]
13:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01588 BTC [-]
13:50 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003718 BTC [-]
13:50 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 39 @ 0.0037 = 0.1443 BTC [-]
13:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0022 = 0.0044 BTC [-]
13:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.0008732 BTC [-]
13:54 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01588 BTC [-]
13:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.0008733 = 0.0017 BTC [+]
13:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.539 = 7.617 BTC [+]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 179 @ 0.004127 = 0.7387 BTC [+]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 44 @ 0.004124 = 0.1815 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 200 @ 0.004109 = 0.8218 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 801 @ 0.004108 = 3.2905 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.004105 = 0.1026 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.004104 = 0.4104 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1420 @ 0.004102 = 5.8248 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 300 @ 0.004101 = 1.2303 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1620 @ 0.0041 = 6.642 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.0041 = 1.025 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.0041 BTC [-]
13:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 810 @ 0.0041 = 3.321 BTC [-]
13:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.023 = 0.69 BTC [-]
13:58 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 65 @ 0.003798 = 0.2469 BTC [+]
13:58 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 86 @ 0.003798 = 0.3266 BTC [+]
13:59 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003799 = 0.3799 BTC [+]
13:59 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 170 @ 0.003799 = 0.6458 BTC [+]
14:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.004104 = 0.2052 BTC [+]
14:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.491 = 4.982 BTC [-]
14:10 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.01285 BTC [+]
14:12 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01588 BTC [-]
14:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00086667 = 8.2334 BTC [-]
14:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 71 @ 0.003798 = 0.2697 BTC [-]
14:15 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0033 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.9896 = 1.9792 BTC [+]
14:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.491 BTC [-]
14:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.491 = 4.982 BTC [-]
14:21 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.01149 BTC [-]
14:21 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 261 @ 0.01147 = 2.9937 BTC [-]
14:21 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.01146 = 0.0573 BTC [-]
14:21 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 66 @ 0.0112 = 0.7392 BTC [-]
14:21 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.01117 = 0.0223 BTC [-]
14:22 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.011 = 0.11 BTC [-]
14:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1597 @ 0.00087132 = 1.3915 BTC [+]
14:22 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.189 = 0.945 BTC [-]
14:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.1898 = 0.949 BTC [+]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 131 @ 0.02303 = 3.0169 BTC [+]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02303 BTC [+]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02303 = 0.0691 BTC [+]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 83 @ 0.02302 = 1.9107 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.02301 = 1.2195 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.023 = 1.012 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.023 = 0.138 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.023 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.023 = 0.23 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.023 = 0.23 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.02275 = 0.2958 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02274 = 0.3411 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.02273 = 1.1365 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02271 = 0.4542 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0227 = 2.27 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02267 = 0.0907 BTC [-]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02266 = 0.2266 BTC [-]
14:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02265 BTC [-]
14:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 99 @ 0.02265 = 2.2424 BTC [-]
14:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0223 BTC [-]
14:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02228 = 0.3342 BTC [-]
14:30 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 17 @ 0.298 = 5.066 BTC [+]
14:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 450 @ 0.004311 = 1.94 BTC [+]
14:35 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 78 @ 0.003798 = 0.2962 BTC [-]
14:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 100 @ 0.00069999 = 0.07 BTC [-]
14:37 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2597 BTC [-]
14:38 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1898 = 0.3796 BTC [+]
14:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3677 @ 0.00087206 = 3.2066 BTC [+]
14:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.0246 BTC [-]
14:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 11 @ 0.0002239 = 0.0025 BTC [-]
14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 1 @ 0.00439 BTC [+]
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 11 @ 0.00118 = 0.013 BTC [-]
14:56 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003702 = 0.074 BTC [-]
14:56 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 14 @ 0.003701 = 0.0518 BTC [-]
14:56 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 266 @ 0.0037 = 0.9842 BTC [-]
14:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 270 @ 0.004307 = 1.1629 BTC [-]
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00118 = 0.0118 BTC [-]
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 7 @ 0.00118 = 0.0083 BTC [-]
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 1 @ 0.00355 BTC [-]
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.45 BTC [-]
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 3 @ 0.00118 = 0.0035 BTC [-]
15:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4 @ 0.000238 = 0.001 BTC [+]
15:04 seangeng_ looks like #bitfunder 's assetbot is outputing data now
15:04 seangeng_ i'll see if i can write something that captures it's output
15:04 kakobrekla why are you doing the same thing again when its stupid way to do it for the first time around
15:04 kakobrekla ah well
15:04 pankkake because there's no better way? :)
15:05 kakobrekla i has socket
15:05 tyrion70 use the websocket maybe?
15:07 dexX7 websocket from where?
15:08 tyrion70 from the site?
15:08 FabianB_ all but bf
15:08 dexX7 coinflow or bf?
15:09 tyrion70 bf
15:09 dexX7 didn't know they provide one
15:10 tyrion70 that's how the site works..
15:10 Anduck ooo
15:10 seangeng_ i messaged ukyo to ask him
15:10 Anduck mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3051503#msg3051503
15:10 mircea_popescu can i has summary ?
15:11 Anduck check the link
15:11 Anduck a delivered 400gh unit
15:11 mircea_popescu ahaha working better without fans!
15:11 mircea_popescu golden
15:11 mircea_popescu hey, buttcoin ppl : pls to include in your next update ty.
15:12 mircea_popescu Anduck it does 499 gh actually ?
15:12 Anduck 400gh and 25gh unit together does that i think
15:12 Anduck and that in total draws less than 400 watts
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003701 = 0.074 BTC [+]
15:13 mircea_popescu I'm still tweaking my units manually. I'd say 380GH from 16 H-boards is possible.
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.0037 = 0.74 BTC [-]
15:13 mircea_popescu aj
15:13 Anduck yeah
15:13 Anduck what about that?
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 238 @ 0.003698 = 0.8801 BTC [-]
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 306 @ 0.003694 = 1.1304 BTC [-]
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003692 = 0.3692 BTC [-]
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 800 @ 0.003691 = 2.9528 BTC [-]
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.00369 = 0.369 BTC [-]
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.003689 = 0.1845 BTC [-]
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.003688 = 1.844 BTC [-]
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 567 @ 0.003688 = 2.0911 BTC [-]
15:14 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3050985#msg3050985
15:14 mircea_popescu that shit's golden.
15:14 ozbot [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe
15:14 Anduck yup
15:15 Anduck but i must again say: he ordered 400gh unit and 25gh unit and got both, both performing as advertised (except he got extra hardware for that)
15:15 fractal so, that basically proves that the 400GH unit missed specs.
15:15 fractal - 365GH vs. 60GH.
15:15 Anduck just trying to push the bet wording once again so there's _no_ misunderstanding
15:15 fractal 400Gh unit did not perform as advertised
15:15 Anduck that's not the full 400 gh unit in the pic, it's a full m-board with 16 h-cards.
15:15 Anduck lol
15:16 fractal which is what was advertised as a '400Gh' unit, according to the website
15:16 Anduck the 400gh unit he bought is splitted in 2 m-boards, 20 h-cards
15:16 fractal nope
15:16 Anduck yeah they didn't meet hardware specs, true
15:16 Anduck but the bet was about the delivered unit. think about BFL
15:16 fractal they didn't meet hardware specs because the hardware underperformed -- and that is what the bet is about.
15:17 mircea_popescu lol hello you two.
15:17 Anduck BFL says they will deliver a 5gh hashing unit which eats X amount of watts. they deliver a bigger sized 5gh hashing unit that eats X amount of watts. customer got the advertised performance
15:17 Anduck but if BFL says they deliver 5gh hashing unit that eats X amount of watts and delivers same sized unit that eats X+10 watts, they haven't met the advertised performance
15:18 Anduck BFL was just used here as an example of an asic supplier
15:18 fractal http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ -- 400Gh unit -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised -- the hardware did not perform as advertised.
15:18 Anduck it was about the W/GH as the brackets say
15:18 Anduck :I
15:18 fractal http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ -- 400Gh unit -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised -- the hardware did not perform as advertised. The bet clearly states that the hardware must perform as advertised. All conditions of the bet were not met. Therefore the bet is a NO.
15:18 Anduck not about amount of hardware needed for the unit. it as about the _performance_
15:18 fractal Thats not what the bet says
15:19 fractal and the only thing that matters is what the bet says
15:19 fractal bitbet.us has to go by the WORDing of the BET. not by what else 'it could mean'
15:19 Anduck the bet says people who order 400 gh will get 400 gh and it will perform as promised!!!!
15:19 fractal no, it doesn't
15:19 Anduck but that's what the bet says?
15:19 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 10 @ 0.6498 = 6.498 BTC [+]
15:20 Anduck they failed to meet the LOOK and AMOUNT of hardware but NOT the PERFORMANCE
15:20 Anduck and the bet was about PERFORMANCE
15:20 fractal and it failed on performance.
15:20 Anduck how the fuck it failed on performance if it eats less than 1 W/GH as promised???
15:20 fractal -- 400Gh unit -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised -- the hardware did not perform as advertised.
15:21 Anduck yeah that's where they describe the hardware the unit includes
15:21 Anduck and they failed that part since they had to add more hardware for the unit
15:21 Anduck but they STILL did NOT fail the PERFORMANCE
15:21 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 3 @ 0.01588 = 0.0476 BTC [-]
15:21 fractal There are 2 performance metrics -- hashrate, and wattage-- to meet performance the hashrate must be higher then advertised, and the wattage must be lower. The hashrate missed targets.
15:21 fractal Anduck: sorry, but thats not what the bet says.
15:21 Anduck but people got the hashrate they ordered?
15:21 Anduck how did they miss that target?
15:21 fractal Anduck: thats not what the bet says.
15:22 Anduck but it says that the people must get the hashrate they ordered. and it must eat the <1 w/GH power. and that promise is kept.
15:22 Anduck there's nothing unclear in this
15:22 fractal Anduck: no, the bet doesn't say that.
15:23 Anduck i don't understand why you all the time come up with that they had to add more h-cards for the unit.. :/ they failed that but it's got nothing to do with the performance of the unit!
15:23 Anduck the brackets in the bet describe what the "advertised performance" means
15:23 fractal Anduck: the 400Gh unit --as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- failed to meet hashrate performance targets.
15:23 fractal it says 'As advertised'
15:24 Anduck ._. there's no point in this since even now you understand you're wrong - you still keep on pushing that
15:24 Anduck they promised that when one buys 400gh unit, they get 400 gigahash of hashing power and it eats less than 400 watts of power.
15:24 fractal Again, I'm only going by what the bet actually says -- Thats why I bet NO. because I didn't think their 400Gh unit as advertised would meet targets -- and they'd have to refund (or ship more hardware) to make up for their mistakes and underperformance.
15:25 fractal Anduck: thats irrelevant to what the bet says.
15:25 fractal Again, i'm only going by what the bet says
15:25 fractal the 400Gh UNIT only does 360Gh
15:25 Anduck you must understand here that unit, when talking about 25gh unit or 400 gh unit is built from m-boards and h-boards
15:26 fractal I understand very well
15:26 Anduck what do you think 25gh unit is?
15:26 fractal the 400Gh unit --as advertised -- is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" --
15:26 Anduck stop pasting that lol
15:26 tyrion70 here we go again..
15:26 Anduck you can refer to it without pasting it all the time :D
15:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.49 = 7.47 BTC [-]
15:27 tyrion70 >> #annoyingbetdiscussions :p
15:27 fractal A 25 gh unit was advertised as a single H-card. -- I'm pasting it all the time because you don't seem to realize that the bet says hardware device/uni AS ADVERTISED' -- i'm only going by the bet language
15:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.488 BTC [-]
15:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.482 BTC [-]
15:28 Anduck yeah 25gh unit was advertised as a single h-card. but it took 2 h-cards to make the unit.,
15:28 Anduck understand?
15:28 Anduck they failed _hardware amount promise_
15:28 Anduck the 25gh unit still _performs_ (promised hashrate at promised watts usage) as promised
15:29 Anduck understand????
15:29 pankkake I bet ~0.10 BTC on this. If I give it to you both, will you shut up? :)
15:29 fractal No, thats not what the bet says.... Maybe you can strech the argument for the 25Gh card by saying its modular (even though i disagree because AS ADVERTISED it was 1 card), but you certianly can't for the 400Gh unit
15:29 tyrion70 ^what pankkake says
15:30 tyrion70 :p
15:30 pankkake anyway, it likely won't change the mind of whoever decides the outcome of the bet
15:31 Anduck yup
15:31 fractal yup
15:32 tyrion70 1 day right and you know what its going to be?
15:33 fractal I can only hope that most rational people will look at the bet langugage, and then look and see that the 400Gh unit --as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- missed performance targets, and that the not all conditions of the bet were met.
15:34 Anduck btw fractal
15:36 pankkake bets can be voided, too…
15:37 fractal If the bet was voided, I would not mind as I do feel badly for Anduck -- he wrote the bet wrongly to what he meant. I have a conscience.
15:37 fractal But, according to the language, the bet is a NO. That doesn't change the fact that I think Bitfury is awesome and did a great job.
15:39 fractal it suppose it could be argued the language made the bet a 'Bad bet' according to the FAQ...
15:39 tyrion70 this was obviously an unexpected outcome and not covered in the bet language..
15:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02435 = 0.0974 BTC [+]
15:40 Anduck well
15:42 Anduck as unit i meant the 400 gh package of mining gear
15:42 Anduck the bfsb.com shop says that 400 gh unit is 16-h boards in 1 m-board
15:43 fractal Yea, but you didn't explicitly state that -- and people reading the bet went on the bitfurystrikesback website, and saw that a UNIT was "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- what do you say to those people???
15:43 Anduck but people got 18-20 h-boards + 2 m-boards as the 400gh unit
15:43 tyrion70 where is this bet actually?
15:43 fractal Thats not what was advertised, and contrary to the bet langugae
15:44 Anduck the bet was about advertised performance
15:44 Anduck at bfsb it says:
15:44 Anduck Performance:
15:44 Anduck 400GHash/s
15:44 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
15:44 Anduck and that promise is met
15:44 tyrion70 where is the bet located?
15:44 fractal http://bitbet.us/bet/520/bitfury-eu-august-orders-will-ship-before-1st/
15:44 ozbot BitBet - Bitfury EU August orders will ship before 1st September 2013
15:44 tyrion70 weird search didn't have anything on bitfury..
15:44 fractal thats not what the bet says -- it says 400Gh UNIT must be 400Gh, a unit is as advertised - '"1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
15:45 Anduck there's no such thing as 400 gh device
15:45 Anduck since it's all modular
15:45 Anduck ...
15:45 pankkake infinite loop
15:45 fractal Not true
15:45 Anduck but it is true
15:45 fractal As per the website - a 400Gh unit is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
15:45 Anduck there's no such thing as 25 gh device since it's all modular
15:45 jorash (-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)
15:45 Anduck no
15:45 tyrion70 so we are talking about this bet:
15:45 fractal yes
15:45 tyrion70 "Bitfurystrikesback.com (Bitfury EU reseller) will ship their 25 and 400 gigahash mining units before 1st of September 2013. Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W) in order to be accepted as valid. Atleast 5 deliveries confirmed by respected members of the community required."
15:45 Anduck it says 400gh KIT includes 1 master board and 16 h-boards
15:45 Anduck Tykling: yes
15:46 Anduck tyrion70
15:46 fractal which means it missed performance on hashrate -- it is not 400Gh
15:46 fractal they had to ship more hardware to make up for missed performance
15:46 Anduck they had to add more hardware for the kit or unit or whatever you want to call it
15:46 tyrion70 That picture that was posted shortly ..
15:46 tyrion70 those were two " machines" right?
15:47 tyrion70 or "units" ?
15:47 fractal tyrion70: 2 seperate UNITS, yes.
15:47 tyrion70 one 400GH unit and one 25GH unit..
15:47 fractal so single unit hit 400Gh.
15:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 968 @ 0.00118 = 1.1422 BTC [-]
15:47 fractal tyrion70: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ -- 400Gh unit -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised -- the hardware did not perform as advertised. The bet clearly states that the hardware must perform as advertised. All conditions of the bet were not met.
15:47 Anduck it says 400 gh kit includes 1 m-board and 16 h-boards
15:48 Anduck it doesn't talk about units there
15:48 fractal Thats not what the bet says.
15:48 Anduck when the bet says "unit" it means the 400gh kit
15:48 tyrion70 The bet doesn't mention anything on number of boards fractal..
15:48 fractal Well, tahts too bad isn't it? because it SAYS UNIT!!!!!!!!!!!
15:48 Anduck there's no such thing as 400gh unit = 1 m-board + 16 h-boards
15:48 fractal yes there is
15:48 Anduck but there is not
15:48 Anduck it's a fact that 1 m-board can hold up to 16 h-boards, but that doesn't make it a 400gh unit
15:49 fractal tyrion70: yes it does . the bet says 'as advertised' . the hardware is http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ -- 400Gh unit -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised
15:49 Anduck it was advertised that 400gh KIT includes a m-board + 16 h-boards.... nothing about "units"
15:49 Anduck it says PERFORMANCE as advertised
15:49 tyrion70 fractal: that link nor the content is included in the bet..
15:49 fractal The advertised performance was 400Gh on ""1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips""
15:49 Anduck 400gh UNIT PERFORMANCE AS advertised
15:49 fractal tyrion70: yes, it says bitfurystrikesback.com in the bet
15:49 fractal so, the advertised performance is from that site
15:50 Anduck the advertised performance from the site:
15:50 Anduck Performance:
15:50 Anduck 400GHash/s
15:50 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
15:50 tyrion70 fractal, thats not the site, its the company..
15:50 fractal The advertised performance was 400Gh on ""1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips""
15:50 fractal they failed to meet these performance targets
15:50 Anduck no, the unit advertised performance was 400gh and 1 m-board and 16 h-boards was the promised amount of modular cards that make the unit
15:50 tyrion70 fractal, would you agree that it would be weird that ppl who bet need to read another site?
15:50 Anduck but they failed the hardware amount
15:50 Anduck but the performance did not fail
15:51 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 4 @ 0.6498 = 2.5992 BTC [+]
15:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00087455 = 3.1484 BTC [+]
15:51 Anduck _and_ performance means that W/GH is as promised
15:51 fractal tyrion70: Weird or not -- Thats what the bet says -- Bitfurystrikesback.com (Bitfury EU reseller)"
15:51 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the bet says
15:51 Anduck the bet doesn't talk about h-cards performances, it talks about the whole unit performances
15:51 Anduck the whole unit works as promised
15:52 Anduck except it has more h-cards in it than promised
15:52 fractal And it missed performance for the unit, which is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
15:52 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 160 @ 0.65 = 104 BTC [+]
15:52 fractal which means the bet is a no, because all conditions of the bet were not met.
15:52 Anduck bfsb.com says that 400gh kit includes that amount of modular cards, yes
15:53 FabianB_ hmm.. i bet the bitfury argument loop will still last a few hours..
15:53 Anduck and they failed that but the overall performance of the whole 400gh unit/kit is as advertised
15:53 Anduck yup
15:53 fractal And since the hardware didn't perform as advertised -- the bet is a no.
15:53 Anduck the unit does, they didn't advertise that h-card must perform 25gh
15:53 fractal Anduck: Unforunately, thats not what the bet says.
15:53 Anduck the bet is about units, not the modular h-cards or m-cards
15:53 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.251 BTC [-]
15:54 tyrion70 fractal: the bet doesn't say "as advertised on the website www.blabla" .. the bet specifies the exact conditions itself.. without a need to read some website..
15:54 pankkake well they can still argue after the bet is resolved
15:54 fractal And the 400Gh unit -- as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- did not meet performance targets
15:54 Anduck the bet says: 25gh unit and 400gh unit must meet the advertised performance. they promise 400gh at 400W for the 400gh unit at bfsb.com. that is met. what's so weird about this?
15:54 tyrion70 what if bitfury changed the site while the bet was running???
15:54 Anduck yeah that too
15:54 fractal tyrion70: it says as advertised . Unfortunately, that is where it was advertised.
15:54 fractal Then 'as advertised' would make it a bad bet... and it wouldn't have been accepted.
15:54 tyrion70 it says:
15:54 tyrion70 Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W) in order to be accepted as valid.
15:55 Anduck yeah
15:55 fractal tyrion70: yes. And the 400Gh unit -- as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- did not meet performance targets
15:55 tyrion70 so the actual bet value is references within parenthesis..
15:55 Anduck tyrion70: what do you mean?
15:55 Anduck oh
15:55 Anduck yes
15:55 tyrion70 I believe in general that a valid bet MUST contain all information needed..
15:56 tyrion70 in this case the bet was for performance.. which was included in parenthesis..
15:56 Anduck well the bet describes what means "advertised performance"
15:56 Anduck yeah
15:56 fractal tyrion: Exactly, the 400Gh unit was only 365Gh .
15:56 fractal therefore it missed performance targets
15:56 tyrion70 if I would have bought 1 unit.. how many GH would I have right now fractal?
15:56 Anduck but the people who ordered 400gh unit got >400gh at promised watts?
15:57 tyrion70 lets take another example..
15:57 fractal tyrion70: Nobody who ordered a 400Gh unit has posted recieving more then 400Gh.... so I can't answer that question.
15:57 Anduck fractal: actually, MXRider did
15:57 fractal Someone ordered a 400 + 25Gh, and got 2 M-cards.
15:58 tyrion70 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3051503#msg3051503
15:58 Anduck the ordered 400gh unit and 25gh unit.
15:58 tyrion70 he did..
15:58 fractal Anduck: NO. he ordered 425.
15:58 ozbot [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe
15:58 Anduck and he got 499 gh in total
15:58 fractal exactly.
15:58 fractal thats my point. thank you.
15:58 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.003376 = 0.0135 BTC [+]
15:58 Anduck tyrion70: let us hear your example
15:58 fractal You won't see anyone with 400Gh only getting delivered -- because BSB would have to ship them 2 M-boards, 2 R-pi's, etc.
15:59 Anduck and they do ship
15:59 tyrion70 well that's what I asked earlier..
15:59 Anduck when one orders 400gh kit, he gets 400gh
15:59 fractal Since he ordered 400 + 25, he was always going to get 2 M-boards.
15:59 Anduck ...
15:59 fractal Anduck: I agree with you. but thats not what the bet says
15:59 fractal The bet says the 400Gh unit -- as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" must be 400Gh. IT ISN'T
15:59 tyrion70 if ppl ordering 400 gh get 2 m-boards its two units not one..
15:59 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.00369 = 0.0738 BTC [+]
16:00 fractal tyrion70: Exactly. thank you. this is what i've been trying to argue for 3 days
16:00 Anduck tyrion70: the 400gh kit itself is built from m-boards and h-boards
16:00 fractal Anduck: no, its not. As per the website - the 400Gh unit -- as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:00 tyrion70 anduck m-boards are not interconnected right?
16:00 fractal tyrion70: They are not .
16:00 tyrion70 each m-board has own power supply, nic etc..
16:00 fractal tyrion70: correct
16:01 Anduck a full m-board _should_ make 400gh and now actually only does 370 gh. but the unit/kit, which people ordered, does 400gh (so it includes 2 m-boards and 18-20 h-boards)
16:01 tyrion70 ahhh
16:01 tyrion70 ok.. now I get the complete picture..
16:01 fractal Anduck: which means the bet is a no, since the hardware does not perform as advertised.
16:01 tyrion70 well that's a tough one..
16:02 tyrion70 I believe that ppl could have bet on this bet text with two things in mind..
16:02 Anduck so in my eyes they failed the _hardware amount promise_ , they had to deliver more of those modular cards to make the 400gh kit
16:02 Anduck they did not fail the promised/advertised PERFORMANCE of the kit (and the bet was about the performance only)
16:02 fractal tyrion70: of course thats true. which is why its a bad bet i think...
16:02 tyrion70 Someone could have thought: No way they get that GH/W out of one chip: I'm betting no
16:02 fractal Anduck: why do you keep using the word KIT? KIT is not in the bet langugage at all. KIT is irrelevant
16:02 tyrion70 OR
16:03 Anduck tyrion70: performance means W/GH
16:03 Anduck fractal: they were sold as kits
16:03 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 11 @ 0.00369 = 0.0406 BTC [+]
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16:03 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 249 @ 0.00365 = 0.9089 BTC [-]
16:03 Anduck 400gh unit = 400 gh kit
16:03 fractal No it doesn't. Performance means Hashrate and Wattage seperatly... No Proportion was mentioned in the bet language.
16:03 Anduck 25gh @ 40W an 400 gh @ 400W
16:03 fractal it must be BOTH over 400Gh and under 400W to meet targets.
16:03 tyrion70 Anduck, it's going to be hard to argue that one kit needs two psu's and two network cables..
16:04 fractal well, a 400Gh UNIT does not exist.....
16:04 Anduck it doesn't need 2 psu-s...
16:04 Anduck fractal: indeed. so one must have understood that when talking about 400gh unit it means the 400gh KIT you can order from the site
16:04 fractal It needs 2 m-boards, 2 R-pi's, etc.
16:04 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the bet says.
16:04 tyrion70 my conclusion if you want to hear it: bad bet...
16:04 Anduck so that when they advertised that 400gh kit will do 400 gigahashes at <400W.. it is met
16:04 fractal The best doesnt say "If they miss performance targets, they can ship multiple units to make up for it"
16:05 tyrion70 the outcome was not 100% coverered by the text in the bet..
16:05 Anduck but people got the promised performance?
16:05 Anduck w tf
16:05 fractal Anduck: The 400Gh unit, as advertised, is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:05 Anduck the 400gh KIT was advertised as taht
16:05 fractal Which failed to meet performance targets
16:05 Anduck no mention about units in there
16:05 fractal 'KIT" is nowhere in the bet language. stop using it. thank you.
16:05 tyrion70 anduck: 400 GH/s unit
16:05 fractal we are talking about UNITS, as per the bet language.
16:05 Anduck the KIT now happened to include more m-boards than it advertised but the PERFORMANCE is still as promised!!!!!!!!
16:06 Anduck fractal: but there's no such thing as unit at the bfsb.com shop
16:06 fractal Anduck: KIT is nowhere in the bet language. It means something different to UNIT. sorry.
16:06 tyrion70 it says unit anduck not kit..
16:06 tyrion70 that's why its a bad bet..
16:06 Anduck tyrion70: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/
16:06 tyrion70 it's not a no, and not a yet..
16:06 Anduck where the fuck it says "unit" in there?
16:06 fractal Well, the FULL KIT is STILL "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:06 fractal you have to be really retarted not to read that part "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:06 fractal thats a KIT
16:06 tyrion70 Anduck like I said, I have to go on the text in the bet..
16:06 Anduck the bet wasn't about what the full kit is, it was about that the full kit will deliver the performance
16:07 tyrion70 not the site.. the site can be changed.. the bet can't
16:07 fractal Anduck: IT doesn't matter what you say now.... THE BET LANGUAGE IS ALL THAT MATTERS
16:07 fractal holy SHIT MAN
16:07 Anduck and i think it was quite clear to understand that 25gh unit and 400gh unit meant the thing you can buy from the website. and the thing you can buy from the website is kit
16:07 Anduck nobody has declared that 1 m-board + 16 h-boards is 400gh unit
16:08 tyrion70 anduck what's the power usage on that thing anyway?
16:08 fractal Well obviously its not clear.... a 400Gh unit/kit was "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:08 Anduck the only declaration for 400gh unit i can think of is that what they sell at the site. the 400 gh KIT is what they sell
16:08 fractal Anduck: thats not what the bet says.
16:08 Anduck tyrion70: <350W
16:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 389 @ 0.00022 = 0.0856 BTC [-]
16:08 fractal You can't write a bet and they say "oh, I actually meant this" later
16:08 Anduck yeah but it's actually very much the only way you can understand the bet
16:08 tyrion70 for 1 m-board with 16 h-boards?
16:09 Anduck tyrion70: no, for the 400gh unit
16:09 tyrion70 or for 2 m-boards and 19-h boards?
16:09 Anduck that includes 2 m-boards and 18 h-boards
16:09 Anduck or 19 h-boards
16:09 fractal Anduck: everyone can see that a 400Gh unit is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:09 Anduck fractal: that was meant to be the 400gh kit. it was meant that 400gh kit only includes 1 m-board filled with h-boards
16:09 Anduck but the kit hardware amount changed
16:09 Anduck but the performance did not
16:09 fractal Anduck: And thats what was advertsied -- according to the bet language -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:09 fractal This did not meet performance.
16:10 fractal It's like BFL shipping 2 singles because 1 was only 1/2 the hashrate
16:10 tyrion70 pfff
16:10 fractal or giving a refund.
16:10 Anduck fractal: theu can do that if they keep the performance promise
16:10 fractal The fact is that the hardware MISSED performance
16:10 Anduck yeah
16:10 Anduck it did
16:10 Anduck but the 400gh unit did nopt
16:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 400 @ 0.0002102 = 0.0841 BTC [-]
16:10 Anduck nor did the 25gh
16:11 fractal Anduck: the bet says nothing about keeping promises and shipping more hardware if they miss performance numebrs, it simply says that the 400Gh unit, as advertised "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips", must be 400Gh... IT was not.
16:11 Anduck but there's no declaration for 400gh unit to be 1 m-board with 16 h-boards
16:11 Anduck .........
16:11 fractal Yes, that is what was advertised.
16:11 Anduck o well there is
16:11 Anduck yeah
16:11 Anduck the kit
16:11 Anduck or unit, whatever we want to call it
16:12 Anduck but as long as it performs as promised, the bet is yes
16:12 Anduck right?
16:12 Anduck doesn't matter does the COLOR of the miner change
16:12 fractal So, how do you expect people to read the bet, -- AS adveritsed -- ?? and then tell them later 'Sorry, it doesn't matter if that was as advertised'
16:12 Anduck or the SIZE
16:12 fractal Thats not what the language of the bet says.
16:12 Anduck well i am asking you
16:12 tyrion70 it can be read and understood two ways without right or wrong..
16:12 fractal The UNIT, as advertised, didn't perform as promised .
16:12 tyrion70 hence: bad bet
16:13 Anduck fractal: what is the unit?
16:13 fractal Anduck: "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips",
16:13 Anduck yeah, they failed that. they had to add more hardware to make the unit
16:13 tyrion70 both anduck and fractal, try not to convince eachother of your own opinion but see if you can fit both opinions in the same bet..
16:13 Anduck indeed
16:14 Anduck what i said earlier, i say now
16:14 Anduck the bet requires that bfsb ships 400 gh to people who ordered 400gh
16:14 Anduck and it must meet the W/GH
16:14 fractal tyrion70: i agree with you, your arguement that this is a bad bet, is probably valid.
16:14 tyrion70 you are both right...
16:14 Anduck so they cant ship for example GPU's
16:14 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the bet says.
16:14 tyrion70 anduck, I could argue that if I ordered a 400GH Kit as you describe it, I now received 2 units...
16:15 tyrion70 not one...
16:15 Anduck it doesn't matter that does the miner change color or what sized it is... the thing is that they had to deliver the advertised performance. performance means X amount of GHash at Y W/GH.
16:15 fractal Anduck: yes, but thats not what the bet says.
16:15 Anduck tyrion70: you can only order 400gh kits
16:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.0037 = 0.0074 BTC [+]
16:15 fractal Anduck: And a KIT, as advertised is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips",
16:15 Anduck they said that the kit will include 1 m-board and 16 h-boards. but it ended up including 2 m-boards with 19 h-boards
16:15 tyrion70 anduck; do you agree that I should not have to read another website to bet?
16:15 Anduck tyrion70: yes
16:15 tyrion70 allrightl
16:16 Anduck so where does one come up with that a 400gh unit is 1 m-board with 16 h-boards???
16:16 tyrion70 anduck: do you agree that if I ordered a 400 GH Kit from bitfury and I openend the box I would see two "units"
16:16 Anduck thats not in the bet. the bet refers to the bfsb.com shop declared performance of 400gh unit. and it's in the parenthesis too
16:16 fractal Anduck: The bet language says UNIT. The website says "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips",
16:16 Anduck in the parenthesis is the thing that the 400gh unit and 25gh unit had to meet
16:16 tyrion70 depening on "my understanding" of the word unit...
16:16 fractal 1 master board is therefore assumed to be a UNIT
16:16 Anduck tyrion70: yea
16:17 Anduck tyrion70: that means they failed the amount of hardware you ordered.
16:17 Anduck but it still performs as promised
16:17 tyrion70 it means that the text is ambivalent..
16:17 Anduck even though the miner size or color or amount of modular units has changed
16:17 fractal Well, i'd say that if they had to ship more hardware -- they missed performance targets.
16:17 tyrion70 because 2 units makes the bet a no..
16:17 Anduck tyrion70: but where do you come up with that 400gh is 2 units?
16:18 tyrion70 like I said if I opened the box today one could argue that I have received two units instead of one..
16:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02271 = 0.0454 BTC [-]
16:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0227 = 0.0681 BTC [-]
16:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0227 = 0.227 BTC [-]
16:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02251 = 0.045 BTC [-]
16:18 Anduck it's a single 400gh unit you buy. you get the 400gh (even though it's splitted in 2 mainboards and 19 h-boards)
16:18 Anduck tyrion70: indeed
16:18 Anduck so they failed that promise
16:18 tyrion70 which would make me very happy customer nonetheless...
16:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.0225 = 1.1925 BTC [-]
16:18 Anduck but those hardware as the unit would still perform as promised
16:18 Anduck you order 400gh unit, you get 400 gh unit
16:19 fractal For the record -- nobody who ordered a 400Gh OR LESS has reported receiving more then 1 M-board.
16:19 Anduck the unit has changed, but the performance hasn't
16:19 fractal Anduck: 2 units is not 1 unit.
16:19 fractal 2 units is 2 units. because they missed performance.
16:19 Anduck you order 400gh unit, how does that go to 2 units???
16:19 Anduck who the fuck says 1 m-board is 1 unit?
16:19 Anduck who the fuck says 1 m-board with 16 h-boards is 1 unit?
16:19 fractal The website says it. ""1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips",
16:19 fractal thanks.
16:19 Anduck it says that yes
16:20 tyrion70 but the bet says: 400 GH/s unit 400W while it does 400 GH/s 2 units 400W
16:20 tyrion70 1 kit now equals 2 units
16:20 tyrion70 bet language was not clear (should have used the exact language from bitfury)
16:20 Anduck YES you are RIGHT about that. so they failed that. the unit is MORE THAN 1 M-BOARD
16:20 fractal Anduck: YES, but thats not what the bet says !!
16:20 tyrion70 there is no bitfury "unit" therefore ppl betting might have different opinions on what a unit is..
16:20 Anduck the unit is MORE than 1 m-board with 16 h-boards!!!
16:20 fractal Anduck: That's not what was advertised
16:20 Anduck true!
16:20 fractal Anduck: The BET says 'as advertised'
16:20 Anduck but the performance is still correct!
16:21 Anduck it wasn't about how much boards the unit must have or is the hardware amount as advertised
16:21 fractal No, its not. The 400Gh unit , as advertised "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips", is only 365Gh
16:21 fractal Again, Anduck, Thats not what the bet says....
16:21 tyrion70 again, I could argue both sides; so I say it's invalid..
16:22 Anduck but the 400gh unit ended up to be 2 m-boards + 19 h-boards. so they fucking failed that hardware amount promise, RIGHT???? but the 400gh unit (which has now changed to 2 m-boards instead of 1) they ordered performs as promised
16:22 fractal Anduck: Thats irrelevant, as thats not what the bet says.
16:22 tyrion70 ok
16:22 tyrion70 lets try a different approach
16:22 Anduck it's irrelevant?
16:22 tyrion70 knc..
16:22 fractal Anduck: All thats relevant is the language of the bet
16:22 tyrion70 has 100 200 and 400 gh machines right?
16:22 Anduck yup
16:23 tyrion70 ok lets say the bet is knc delivers their "units" with advertized performance..
16:23 tyrion70 now they don't and instead of sending me one jupiter they send two...
16:24 tyrion70 now if the bet says: a jupiter at advertized performance (400GH) the bet would be NO right?
16:24 fractal that would mean they failed on performance.... the bet would be a NO
16:24 Anduck the bet says "400gh unit at 400W" ? *
16:24 tyrion70 but if the bet says: an order at advertized performance (400GH)
16:24 tyrion70 it would be a yes..
16:24 Anduck yup
16:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.0037 = 0.0111 BTC [+]
16:25 tyrion70 ok.. now back to bitfury..
16:25 Anduck but the performance isn't same as hashrate
16:25 fractal Anduck: "400gh unit 400W" means that the unit must be BOTH more then 400Gh, and less then 400W... no mention of Gh/W ratio was made.
16:25 Anduck performance is W/GH AND the hashrate
16:25 Anduck yeah
16:25 fractal Anduck: not the way the bet defines it
16:25 tyrion70 ho ho ho
16:25 Anduck but that's what the performance means, right?
16:25 Anduck =P
16:25 tyrion70 keep it simple first..
16:25 tyrion70 skip the W ;)
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 170 @ 0.004302 = 0.7313 BTC [-]
16:25 Anduck >400gh at <400W makes a rate of <1 W/GH
16:26 Anduck + the unit must do more than 400 GH
16:26 fractal No. You can win on hashrate and lose on wattage, or win on wattage and lose on hashrate
16:26 tyrion70 with bitfury.. when this bet was openend..
16:26 tyrion70 Anduck what was your understanding of a unit?
16:26 Anduck the 400gh or 25gh thing you can order from bfsb.com
16:26 Anduck they call them kits
16:26 tyrion70 ok so the word unit was "wrong" from the start...
16:26 Anduck how?
16:27 tyrion70 well.. you read and interpreted the word unit as order or kit
16:27 Anduck what do you think unit is?
16:27 tyrion70 fractal might have read and interpreted 1m-board with 16 h-boards..
16:27 tyrion70 the thing is..
16:27 Anduck but who says unit is that?
16:27 tyrion70 there is a difference..
16:27 Anduck bfsb.com says that the kit is that
16:27 tyrion70 who says a unit is an order...
16:27 Anduck well if he got that thing from the kit declaration
16:28 fractal thats exactly how I interpreted it -- based on the bet language -- thats all I have to go by... The site doesn't say "message Anduck" if you have any questions.
16:28 Anduck then kit=unit=order
16:28 tyrion70 that's ur assumption anduck..
16:28 Anduck why?
16:28 tyrion70 well because you believe it to be...
16:28 tyrion70 the question is not are you wrong..
16:28 Anduck isn't the assumption of 1 unit = 1 m-board + 16 h-board wrong too? it's never declared anywhere
16:28 tyrion70 ha!
16:28 tyrion70 there we go..
16:28 Anduck only the 400gh kit is declared
16:28 tyrion70 both are actually...
16:29 tyrion70 and none..
16:29 tyrion70 in the bet text itself
16:29 tyrion70 unit is not further explained..
16:29 tyrion70 it leaves that to the reader..
16:29 Anduck so we _MUST_ assume that unit=kit
16:29 tyrion70 nope..
16:29 Anduck unit can be a group
16:29 Anduck unit can be a group of smaller units
16:29 tyrion70 why? because you think that's correct?
16:29 fractal Anduck: well, it says 'As advertised'
16:29 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [+]
16:29 tyrion70 apparently there are two ways of looking at a unit..
16:29 Anduck yeah fractal, advertised performance. not advertised amount of hw
16:30 tyrion70 both of which come from the same website..
16:30 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [+]
16:30 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 200 @ 0.65 = 130 BTC [+]
16:30 Anduck the website only declares that a kit is 1 m-board + 16 h-boards
16:30 Anduck no talking about units
16:30 tyrion70 I could have read on the website that if I ordered a kit I would get 1 m board with 16 boards..
16:30 Anduck so you can -assume_ it means the kit when talking about unit
16:31 tyrion70 ok u agree there can be two definitions of unit?
16:31 Anduck yeah
16:31 Anduck but my definition was actually defined ,the other one wasn't
16:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 999 @ 0.0037 = 3.6963 BTC [+]
16:31 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 291 @ 0.0037 = 1.0767 BTC [+]
16:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.478 = 4.956 BTC [-]
16:31 tyrion70 hense wrong bet language..
16:31 fractal Anduck: It missed advertised performance.
16:31 tyrion70 it has nothing to do with meeting the performance yet..
16:32 tyrion70 although..
16:32 tyrion70 if unit == kit == order then the bet result == yes
16:32 ThickAsThieves wow
16:32 tyrion70 if unit == 1m board + 16 h-boards then the bet result == no..
16:32 Anduck they failed to ship the kit as described, though the kit does deliver the performance as promised. nobody can say that unit = 1 m-board + 16 h-boards, that wasnt ever defined anywhere!!!
16:32 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 7 @ 0.003376 = 0.0236 BTC [+]
16:32 fractal tyrion70: I think its clear the bet language is not great. it its cancelled, i would understand, but I think it comes down to what most people would interpret a 'UNIT as Advertised' as being...
16:32 ThickAsThieves you guys and this bet
16:32 ThickAsThieves ...
16:32 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [+]
16:33 Anduck nobody can say that unit = 1 m-board + 16 h-boards, that wasnt ever defined anywhere!!!
16:33 tyrion70 anduck, it was at the site wasn't it?
16:33 Anduck no
16:33 Anduck only kit declaration
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16:33 fractal it's very clear http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ -- 400Gh miner -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised -- the hardware did not perform as advertised. The bet clearly states that the hardware must perform as advertised. All conditions of the bet were not met.
16:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.0008699 BTC [-]
16:33 tyrion70 ok so kit was 1 m-board and 16 hbards right?
16:33 Anduck yeah
16:33 Anduck that how it was defined
16:33 tyrion70 so if I were to read up on what a unit was I would think its a kit?
16:34 Anduck and people who orderd the kit got the performance the kit promised
16:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.0008699 = 0.0017 BTC [-]
16:34 tyrion70 ok but unit == kit OR unit == order..
16:34 Anduck it made it with a different hardware amount than promised. but that wasn't partt of the bet
16:34 tyrion70 can't be both at the same time..
16:34 Anduck unit=kit
16:34 Anduck order can have many kits
16:34 tyrion70 unit==kit==1m+16h?
16:34 Anduck the kit was advertised to make 400gh at <400W. and it was also advertised to have 1 m-board and 16 h-boards
16:35 Anduck so yeah
16:35 Anduck but the kit ended up to have more m-boards and h-boards than promised
16:35 Anduck but it didn't alter the advertised performance (400gh at <400w)
16:35 tyrion70 so it was unclear what a unit was...
16:35 Anduck how is it unclear?
16:35 tyrion70 well.. u bet from customer perspective..
16:36 tyrion70 if you get >400GH for <400W before september 1st you win..
16:36 tyrion70 I can bet from technical perspective..
16:36 tyrion70 being: no way they get 400GH out of 256 chips..
16:36 fractal tyrion70: thats exactly what I placed my bet on.
16:36 tyrion70 both based on the same initial bet text..
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 3 @ 0.0032 = 0.0096 BTC [+]
16:37 Anduck they had to add more chips, making them to break that promise
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 70 @ 0.0037 = 0.259 BTC [+]
16:37 fractal 'No way they can get 400GH out of 256 chips'
16:37 fractal Anduck: and the promise was broken because the performance was not met
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 639 @ 0.0037 = 2.3643 BTC [+]
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.477 BTC [-]
16:37 tyrion70 and that statement "could be" covered by the original bid text..
16:37 Anduck how?
16:37 Anduck i think it can't.
16:38 fractal Anduck: tyrion is saying that the bet can be viewed from a 'customer' perspective or a 'technical' perspective.... depending on which one, the bet can be a yes or no.
16:38 tyrion70 why not? think two weeks back..
16:38 Anduck i don't agree with that technical perspective
16:38 Anduck let me explain why
16:38 tyrion70 ok
16:39 pankkake .bait
16:39 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1an53Gy861qezyuno1_1280.jpg
16:39 Anduck one looks that yeah they can't make 256 produce 400gh at <400W. but if 256 chips don't make 400gh, it isn't a 400gh unit, right?
16:39 Anduck so they had to add more chips to make the 400gh unit.
16:39 Anduck still it had to draw max 400 W in total
16:40 Anduck if they added GPU's, it would break the performance promise since it would eat more than 400 wattas
16:40 Anduck so they only broke the promise of hardware amount, they couldn't make the 400gh unit out of 1 m-board only
16:40 tyrion70 yeah i see where you are going..
16:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.477 = 12.385 BTC [-]
16:40 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the bet says... the kit says 256 chips do 400Gh.
16:40 FabianB_ .bait
16:40 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4w2pgVaZ21r21xm5o1_1280.jpg
16:40 tyrion70 but can you at least imagine that ppl bet on 256 chips doing 400 gh based on the information from the bet
16:41 Anduck the site says kit makes 400gh and includes 256 chips
16:41 fractal There are 2 metrics for performance. -- hashrate, and Wattage. It has to meet BOTH.
16:41 Anduck the kit makes 400gh and includes more than 256 chips.
16:41 Anduck they broke the hw amount promise, not the performance promise of the kit
16:41 tyrion70 not according to the ppl that bet on the 256 chips being one unit..
16:42 pankkake so it does 400gh for <400W?
16:42 tyrion70 300 chips do > 400gh for <400w
16:42 pankkake regardless of number of chips, which aren't in the bet
16:42 fractal Anduck: The HW promise IS the performance promise! Imagine if you are running a server farm, and Intel says --- "oh, sorry, our chips aren't fast enough --, but heres 1000 extra servers. Oh, you can't fit them in your datacenter because you ran out of space? too bad!!"
16:42 Anduck tyrion70: the bet doesn't require the unit to include 256 chips
16:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 28 @ 0.004135 = 0.1158 BTC [-]
16:42 pankkake don't care about the nubem of chips
16:42 fractal pankkake: yes. But thats not what the bet says.
16:42 pankkake does it do 400gh for <400W?
16:42 Anduck pankkake: yes
16:42 fractal pankkake: No, it doesn't
16:42 pankkake lol
16:42 tyrion70 both
16:42 Anduck you order 400gh, you get 400gh at <400W
16:42 Anduck so yes, it does.
16:42 tyrion70 again, you are both right..
16:43 tyrion70 depending on the perspective..
16:43 pankkake ok, rewriting my question: does it do <1W per gh?
16:43 Anduck i am fucking more right than him goddamnit KIDDORAGE INCOMING
16:43 tyrion70 hahaha
16:43 Anduck pankkake: yes
16:43 pankkake ok, that's interesting
16:43 Anduck and the unit does >400 gigahashes, too
16:43 fractal pankkake: 400Gh miner -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised -- which is what was required by the bet -- only does 365Gh
16:43 pankkake honestly, I think it should resolve as yes then
16:43 pankkake (and it means I lose my bet)
16:43 pankkake but the bet does not mention chips or boards or whatever
16:44 Anduck the bet required the unit to produce 400gh at <400W. it does that, even though it does that with more chips than announced
16:44 pankkake it mentions performance, watts, hashes
16:44 fractal pankkake: well, its a no, if you read the bet language.
16:44 tyrion70 the bet describes a unit..
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1986 = 0.993 BTC [-]
16:44 tyrion70 but there is no such thing as a unit...
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 9 @ 0.65 = 5.85 BTC [+]
16:44 pankkake "Devices must meet advertised performance"
16:44 tyrion70 so anducks definition of a unit being "whats in the box"
16:44 tyrion70 is correct..
16:44 pankkake they meet the *performance*
16:44 Anduck it says 25gh unit and 400gh unit - bfsb sold 25gh kit and 400gh kit. so you can pretty much make the assumption that kit=unit there,right?
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16:44 fractal pankkake: They did not meet ADVERTISED performance.
16:45 tyrion70 and fractals definition of 256 chips is correct to..
16:45 pankkake number of chips is not performance
16:45 fractal pankkake: 400Gh miner -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- as advertised -- only does 365Gh
16:45 Anduck tyrion70: the bet was about the unit performance, not about the unit chip amount
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16:45 tyrion70 yes and no..
16:45 tyrion70 yes a unit is a kit..
16:46 tyrion70 but the definiton of a kit is not in the bet..
16:46 Anduck a kit was promised to do 400 ghash and it does that
16:46 fractal pankkake: Hashrate for the 400Gh kit/unit as defined by the hardware, as advertsied , was not met.
16:46 fractal Anduck: No, it only does 365Gh
16:46 fractal sorry
16:46 Anduck but one ordered 400gh kit and got 400gh?
16:46 tyrion70 hence it can be read as "what I receive when I order one" or "1 m board 16 h boards and 256 chips"
16:46 fractal 2 Kits do > 400Gh
16:46 fractal 1 Kit does < 400Gh
16:47 Anduck i buy 1 kit, i get >400gh
16:47 Anduck wtf?
16:47 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the bet says.
16:47 Anduck lol?
16:47 Anduck 400gh kit does 400gh, thats what the bet says
16:47 Anduck we already accepted that kit=unit
16:47 Anduck the kit does 400gh
16:47 mircea_popescu incidentally, is this bitfury pcb stuff pretty much the most open/modder friendly asic miner to date ?
16:47 Anduck mircea_popescu: yup
16:47 fractal The bet says the 400Gh UNIT as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- must be at least 400Gh -- it is not.
16:47 mircea_popescu it seems impressignly open
16:47 pankkake yeah it looks great
16:47 Anduck fractal: the chip count is different, performance of the unit is not
16:48 pankkake now I want one
16:48 Anduck the chips can be run at >3 GH
16:48 mircea_popescu pankkake they certainly did the pr right.
16:48 fractal Anduck: the performance was not met. It is only 365Gh.
16:48 Anduck at bfsb boards they do max 1,5
16:48 Anduck fractal: i order 400gh unit, i get 400gh.
16:48 fractal Anduck: The bet only talks about the performance of the unit --
16:49 fractal which is -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- must be at least 400Gh -- it is not.
16:49 Anduck and i get a 400gh unit and it does the 400gh? chip count changed, yes
16:49 fractal No, it doesn't.
16:49 fractal it only does 365Gh
16:49 Anduck but it does?
16:49 pankkake they spent more time working on the miner than on the PR and cases, it seems
16:49 Anduck i get a 400gh KIT which is same as 400gh UNIT as we already accepted.
16:49 Anduck yup
16:49 Anduck the chip itself is awesome
16:49 fractal Anduck: proof that the 400Gh kit is what I describe --- http://thegenesisblock.com/bitfury-400-ghs-bitcoin-mining-rig-hits-us-shores/
16:49 Anduck fractal: the link is not part of the bet
16:50 fractal You are now disagreeing with thegensisblock also
16:50 Anduck only bitfurystrikesback.com is referred to
16:50 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [+]
16:50 Anduck and bitfurystrikesback says 400gh kit (unit) will deliver 400gh at <400W. this was met
16:50 fractal That's a picture of the kit/unit. it doeesn't do 400Gh....
16:50 fractal No it doesn't
16:50 Anduck it's a picture of 1 m-board filled with 16 h-cards
16:50 fractal the 400Gh UNIT as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- must be at least 400Gh -- it is not.
16:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 7 @ 0.003376 = 0.0236 BTC [+]
16:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 52 @ 0.003376 = 0.1756 BTC [+]
16:51 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 115 @ 0.65 = 74.75 BTC [+]
16:51 kakobrekla i think the conclusion of the story is buy s.bbet
16:51 Anduck bitfurystrikesback says 400gh kit (same as 400 gh unit as we accepted) will deliver 400gh at <400W. this was met. the chip count though was changed from 256 to more.
16:51 pankkake kakobrekla: I'm waiting for the TAT PT
16:51 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the bet says. the bet says a 400Gh miner, as advertised -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- must be at least 400Gh -- it is not.
16:52 Anduck dude read what i wrote
16:52 Anduck read it with care
16:52 fractal Read what I wrote with care as well.
16:52 Anduck i did.
16:52 Anduck they failed that. they had to ship more hw to make the unit
16:52 fractal I did.
16:52 Anduck but thats not part of the goddamn bet
16:52 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [+]
16:52 fractal Which means the bet is a no. they shipped more because they missed on performance. its the same as a refund.
16:53 Anduck the unit changed from 1 m-board filled with 16 h-cards to 2 m-boards with 19 h-cards. so they failed this.. but the UNIT does as performed
16:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.476 BTC [-]
16:53 fractal Anduck: The fact is that people betting on bitbet.us can ONLY go by what the language of the bet says --- The bet says a 400Gh miner, as advertised, must be 400Gh.... The advertised Miner was -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- it is onlt 365Gh.
16:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 5325 @ 0.00069999 = 3.7274 BTC [-]
16:54 Anduck the advertised miner performance, which the bet is about, is 400gh at <400W.
16:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02399 = 0.048 BTC [+]
16:54 fractal Anduck: the fact that they had to do that, means that they missed performance on their 400Gh 'kit' and the bet is a no.
16:54 Anduck the amount of hardware for the unit changed but it's not part of the bet
16:54 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the bet says
16:54 pankkake the bet mentions advertised performance, not advertised specs
16:54 Anduck indeed
16:54 Anduck the bet doesn't require the unit/kit to be 1 m-board with 16 h-boards
16:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.023 = 0.322 BTC [-]
16:54 Anduck it requires the unit/kit to perform as promised, that is 25gh at 40W or 400gh at 400W
16:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.004302 = 0.0086 BTC [+]
16:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [-]
16:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.023 = 1.15 BTC [-]
16:56 fractal pankkake: it says the performance of a UNIT AS ADVERTISED. The advertised 400Gh Miner was -- "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- it is onlt 365Gh.
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.023 = 1.15 BTC [-]
16:56 pankkake it's not performance, and what is performance is mentionned in the bet
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.475 = 7.425 BTC [-]
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02251 = 0.045 BTC [-]
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0225 = 1.0575 BTC [-]
16:56 pankkake stop copy/pasting that line it's annoying
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0225 = 0.0675 BTC [-]
16:56 fractal pankkake: yes, and the unit mentioned in the bet failed on performance.
16:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02233 = 0.067 BTC [-]
16:57 pankkake :|
16:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02232 BTC [-]
16:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.02232 = 0.6696 BTC [-]
16:57 Anduck no it doesn't say "performance of the unit as advertised". it says "must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W) "
16:57 fractal and the 400Gh unit is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- which only does 365Gh.
16:57 Anduck and we agreed already that unit is the same thing as the kit.
16:57 fractal and 1 kit is 1-mboard.
16:57 Anduck the kits are promised as the parenthesis says and that is met
16:57 Anduck no
16:57 Anduck it was meant to be
16:57 fractal yes.
16:57 pankkake please stop mentionning chips
16:57 Anduck but it's more than that
16:58 fractal that is what was advertised, and that is what the language of the bet says
16:58 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 7 @ 0.65 = 4.55 BTC [+]
16:58 Anduck so they failed that part? but not the performance of the kit?
16:58 fractal All that matter is the language of the bet. that is why people make NO/YES bets. based on the language of the bet
16:58 fractal Anduck: the 400Gh Kit failed on performance.
16:58 fractal A 400Gh kit is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
16:58 Anduck the language says that the kit must perform as promised. the kit perform promise is at the bfsb shop:
16:58 Anduck Performance:
16:58 Anduck 400GHash/s
16:58 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
16:59 fractal No, it doesn't perform as promised
16:59 FabianB_ why not just wait a few hours and see what it resolves to?
16:59 Anduck order 400gh unit -> get 400gh mining power at promised efficiency. how does it not perform as promised?
17:00 fractal Because the 400Gh unit only hashes at 365Gh.
17:00 Anduck there was no promise of the hardware to perform X way, only the kit
17:00 fractal And a kit is "is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
17:00 fractal which only performs at 365gh
17:00 Anduck you must mean that 1 m-board + 16 h-boards only does 365 gh?
17:00 Anduck the kit is 400gh at <400W. that's the important part
17:01 Anduck the kit hardware got changed, performance didn't
17:01 fractal Not according to the language of the bet....
17:01 fractal Thats not what the bet says
17:01 Anduck the bet says that only advertised performance of the kit must be met
17:01 Anduck and that is met.
17:01 Anduck we already agreed that the kit is the same as the unit.
17:01 fractal No, its not met -- a kit is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips". It does not do 400Gh.
17:01 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [+]
17:01 Anduck a kit was meant to be that hardware, yes. but it failed that. it's more hardware
17:02 pankkake the bet does not fucking mention chips and boards
17:02 Anduck still performs as promised but with more hardware than promised
17:02 Anduck INDEED
17:02 fractal Which, according to the language of the bet, means it missed performance.
17:02 Anduck it only mentions the KIT performance
17:02 pankkake chips and boards is not performance
17:02 pankkake it is fucking irrelevant
17:02 pankkake fuck
17:02 Anduck indeed but fractal can't understand it :(
17:02 fractal pankkake: It mentions a UNIT - which is is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips". its not irrelevant. sorry.
17:02 fractal pankkake: sorry. its not irrelevant. because english.
17:02 Anduck fractal: unit is a kit as we already talked before.
17:03 pankkake you ignore "performance" but yet focus on "unit"
17:03 pankkake what do you think is more important?
17:03 fractal Anduck: which is is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" - which does not do 400Gh
17:03 Anduck they said that 400gh kit will have 256 chips to make the 400gh. they had to add more chips. and the kit does 400gh
17:03 fractal pankkake: all conditions of the bet must be met for it to be a yes. All conditions were not met. The unit/kit in question does not perform at 400Gh.
17:04 fractal Anduck: Thats not what the language of the bet says.
17:04 Anduck fractal: yeah that 1 m-board + 16 h-boards wasn't enough for a kit, they had to add more hw
17:04 Anduck more chips to make the 400gh kit
17:04 Anduck performance of the kit didn't change
17:04 Anduck the bet wasn't about kit chip amount
17:04 fractal which means they missed performance. So the 400Gh kit in question at the time the bet was made, did not meed performance.
17:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02469 = 0.2469 BTC [+]
17:05 Anduck the 400gh kit is 400gh kit, dependless of the chip amount it includes. it was only about that the 400gh kit will make 400gh at promised efficiency
17:05 fractal Again, thats not what the bet says.
17:05 Anduck that is actually right what the bet says
17:05 Anduck must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W)
17:05 fractal And the 400Gh unit is 365Gh.
17:05 Anduck and we already agreed unit is same as kit
17:05 Anduck and i can get the logs about that why it is so
17:06 Anduck the kit does >400gh as promised.
17:06 fractal UNIT is 1 KIT of 1-mboard. anything more then that is no longer a single unit or kit.
17:06 fractal Anduck: No, it doesn't. it is only 365Gh.
17:06 Anduck the 400gh unit includes more chips than promised, yes. but the performance is the same
17:07 Anduck the performance is as promised, that's only thing that is important for the bet
17:07 fractal They shipped more hardware, and are by far the best ASIC manufactuerer so far, and I will order from them... and they've done a great job..... but that has nothing to do with the bet language
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 26 @ 0.00365 = 0.0949 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120 @ 0.00365 = 0.438 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25 @ 0.00365 = 0.0913 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80 @ 0.003626 = 0.2901 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 150 @ 0.003622 = 0.5433 BTC [-]
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 299 @ 0.003621 = 1.0827 BTC [-]
17:07 fractal Anduck: The performance of the 400Gh UNIT is only 365Gh.
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [+]
17:07 fractal sorry.
17:07 Anduck doesn't matter does the miner color or size or chip amount change. it performs as promised. the kit said 400gh at <400W and thats what they delivered.
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [+]
17:07 Anduck and the kit is the same as unit in the bet description
17:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1699 BTC [+]
17:07 Anduck as we already agreed
17:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02299 = 0.046 BTC [+]
17:07 fractal You are trying to change what you meant after the fact.... when the bet started -- everyone assumed that a 400Gh KIT was "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
17:08 Anduck yeah they di
17:08 Anduck yup
17:08 Anduck but the bet wasn't about that to be as promised
17:08 Anduck the bet was about the kit hashrate and efficiency
17:08 Anduck not the chip amount
17:08 Anduck the kit includes a lot more than only m-boards and h-boards
17:08 fractal You can't change after the fact what UNIT was supposed to mean. Also. Nobody who ordered a 400Gh unit actually got 2-mboards so far.
17:08 Anduck the unit is the same as a kit as we've already talked earlier, right?
17:08 fractal the guy on the forums ordered a 400 kit AND a 25 kit
17:09 Anduck he got 2 m-boards for the 400gh kit
17:09 Anduck lol
17:09 Anduck he got 20 h-boards
17:09 Anduck so he got more chips than 256.. so they failed that, they had to add the chip count
17:09 Anduck but the hashrate of 400gh unit is 400gh. (actually more). and the efficiency is as promised
17:10 fractal No. he got a 400gh KIT as advertised -- ""1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- which missed performance targets. that the compmany sent him more hardware has nothing to do with the fact that the 400Gh unit AS ADVERTISED is 365gh
17:10 fractal Again, you have to go by the language of the bet.
17:12 fractal When people placed the bet, all the information they had to go by was that a UNIT was , as advertised , "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" .... This is the only amount of hardware they were taking into consideration when making the bet.
17:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 8 @ 0.004302 = 0.0344 BTC [+]
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.0247 BTC [+]
17:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.471 = 4.942 BTC [-]
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 6 @ 0.0002102 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
17:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.47 BTC [-]
17:13 Anduck 400gh unit performance described at the bitfurystrikesback.com (the bet was about this only, not the chip or hardware amount)
17:13 Anduck Performance:
17:13 Anduck 400GHash/s
17:13 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
17:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6208 @ 0.00087099 = 5.4071 BTC [-]
17:14 Anduck so there's NOTHING unclear about this
17:14 fractal INCLUDED: "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" "1 Raspberry PI"
17:14 fractal if they have to ship more, the UNIT missed performance, and the bet is a no
17:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 98 @ 0.02299 = 2.253 BTC [+]
17:14 Anduck the unit missed hardware promise
17:14 Anduck not performance promise
17:15 fractal yes they missed performance promise
17:15 Anduck the unit does 400gh
17:15 fractal as advertised
17:15 Anduck Performance:
17:15 Anduck 400GHash/s
17:15 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
17:15 fractal no, the unit does 365Gh
17:15 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+]
17:15 fractal INCLUDED: "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
17:15 Anduck they advertised 400gh for the unit and thats what it does
17:15 rulother-tab I see you guys are still debating the bet
17:15 Anduck rulother-tab: whats your opinion?
17:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 98 @ 0.023 = 2.254 BTC [+]
17:15 fractal Anduck: No, it does 365Gh
17:15 Anduck but the one who ordered it got 400gh?
17:15 Anduck how is it 365 then?
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.566 BTC [-]
17:15 fractal Anduck: Sure. but thats not what the bet says.
17:16 Anduck the bet talks about advertised performance
17:16 fractal a UNIT was , as advertised , "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- this does not do 400Gh.
17:16 rulother-tab I think if in the end it does the total hashing power then that's all that matters
17:16 Anduck and it does that
17:16 Anduck the unit does that
17:16 pankkake if the bet resolves as Yes I would be happy because fractal will be unhappy. if the bet is No I will be happy because I get my money back. cool!
17:16 fractal rulother-tab: I agree, but thats not what the language of the bet says
17:16 fractal pankkake: wow, you are a jerk.
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0247 = 0.494 BTC [+]
17:16 pankkake no you are
17:16 rulother-tab Lol
17:17 Anduck there's no way it should end up as a no since all the requirements are met.
17:17 fractal pankkake: I never wish other people to be unhappy. you're not very nice.
17:17 fractal All the requirements of the bet are not met.... The 400Gh unit is only 365Gh
17:17 rulother-tab Welcome to the world of bitcoin
17:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 35 @ 0.001189 = 0.0416 BTC [+]
17:17 Anduck 256 chips does that 365, full 400gh unit does 400gh
17:17 Anduck the chip amount changed, allright?
17:18 Anduck performance of the 400g unit DID not
17:18 fractal rulother-tab: Its great that they got more then what they ordered. But what is at debate here is what a 400Gh unit is. At the time the bet was made it was defined at "a UNIT was , as advertised , "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- and that only does 365Gh. which means all conditions of the bet are not met
17:18 fractal Anduck: The 400Gh unit is only 365Gh
17:18 pankkake you're disengenious and keep repeating things about chips that are completely irrelevant
17:18 pankkake you deserve to be unhappy
17:18 fractal pankkake: I'm repeating whats relevent to the bet.
17:19 fractal pankkake: again, you're a jerk.
17:19 pankkake it's not
17:19 pankkake and you're a bigger jerk
17:19 fractal yes it is, because people assumed the 400Gh unit was a UNIT was , "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips" -- thats what they based their bet on.... to say otherwise is a bait and switch scam, fraud, and nothing more.
17:20 fractal pankkake: well, if you side with bait and switch fraudsters who can change the definition of a UNIT after the fact, then I guess i shouldn't worry about you calling me a jerk
17:20 pankkake aren't you tired of copy/pasting?
17:20 tyrion70 jezus guys.. i feel like an atheist in between catholics and jehova's witnesses
17:21 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.002301 = 0.1151 BTC [-]
17:21 mircea_popescu this thing can only possibly get thicker.
17:21 pankkake 1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips 1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips 1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips 1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips 1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips 1 Master b
17:21 fractal pankkake: absolutely. I'm sure Anduck is also tired of pretending a KIT/UNIT is more then what was advertised.
17:22 Anduck it's actually more than advertised but that's not relevant
17:22 Anduck it does the 400gh as promised, that is relevant. and that it does it at promised efficiency
17:22 fractal pankkake: No, it only does 365Gh.
17:22 fractal *anduck
17:22 Anduck the chip amount has changed. this is not as relevant
17:22 fractal the 400Gh unit is infact a 365Gh unit.
17:22 Anduck yeah with the old amount of chips it would do 365gh but the kit had to make 400gh so they had to add more chips
17:23 Anduck ending up with a 400gh kit performing >400gh at <400W
17:23 fractal Thats not what the bet said.
17:23 fractal Again, we can only go by the language of the bet.
17:23 Anduck the bet only addressed the promise of performance, not the promise of chip count
17:23 pankkake what part of the bet mentions the number of chips?
17:23 assbot [BTCTC] [BMF] 2 @ 0.039 = 0.078 BTC [-]
17:24 fractal pankkake: as advertised.
17:24 pankkake *performance* as advertised
17:24 fractal 400Gh UNIT was advertised as "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips for total of 256 chips"
17:24 fractal this 'UNIT' is only 356Gh
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 3 @ 0.00119 = 0.0036 BTC [+]
17:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
17:25 pankkake :|
17:25 pankkake on a lighter note, this reminds me of http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3475/aglaw.jpg
17:25 fractal lol
17:26 fractal To be honest -- if there ever was a case to invalidate a bet -- i think this would be it...
17:27 fractal Hopefully everyone can learn a lesson from this -- and realize that bet language must be very specific.
17:27 fractal Otherwise people will try to change what a UNIT means after the fact
17:28 Anduck why would the bet be invalidated?
17:28 Anduck it's clear
17:28 tyrion70 because you are both right...
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:29 Anduck but the bet doesn't address the unit chip count right?
17:29 tyrion70 it doesn't specify what a unit is.. so it might..
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:29 Anduck only the performance of the units that was 25gh and 400gh unit? the chip count that was promised got changed in both units, yes
17:29 tyrion70 then again it might not..
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:29 Anduck but the bet doesn't talk about chip count
17:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:30 Anduck it only talks about performance of the units
17:30 tyrion70 yes but it does not define a unit..
17:30 fractal Anduck: for the record, even MXRider calls them 2 units -- "Some info and pictures of my units: 400GH unit and 25GH unit."
17:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:30 Anduck each unit includes enough stuff to make 400gh
17:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:30 tyrion70 that's the debate anduck..
17:30 tyrion70 and to answer that there is not enough info in the bet..
17:30 fractal Anduck: the post you're using to prove your point disagrees with you. He says "Some info and pictures of my units: 400GH unit and 25GH unit."
17:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:30 Anduck tyrion70: when the bet talks about unit (25gh and 400gh) it means the kits you can buy from shop (25gh and 400gh), isn't that very clear?
17:31 Anduck i am not proving a point
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:31 Anduck i am trying to make the bet to resolve correctly
17:31 tyrion70 anduck, yes which would mean that one would have to visit their site in order to see what a "unit" is..
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00087099 BTC [-]
17:31 tyrion70 then at the site one would see that a kit containts 1 m board and 16 h boards..
17:32 Anduck tyrion70: so there's no info about what hardware the unit has? though it's not important, only the hashrate and efficiency is
17:32 tyrion70 then the bet would always be yes..........
17:32 tyrion70 could..
17:32 tyrion70 like I said..
17:32 fractal Anduck: tyrion70 is explaining exactly why people can technically read the bet different to others.... you have to at least realize this
17:33 Anduck what the site says about the performance:
17:33 Anduck Performance:
17:33 Anduck 400GHash/s
17:33 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
17:33 tyrion70 of KnC would ship two boxes for a jupiter..
17:33 tyrion70 it would not be one unit right??
17:33 Anduck tyrion70: bfsb boards werent sold in boxes
17:33 fractal Anduck: which includes "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips "
17:33 tyrion70 even if it hashed at 400gh/1kw
17:33 Anduck they were sold as cards and boards
17:33 Anduck and those formed in as units
17:33 fractal Anduck: A unit is whatever fits on 1 M-board
17:33 Anduck units that are same as kits as we talked earlier
17:33 Anduck fractal: no! lol
17:34 Anduck what definition is that??
17:34 tyrion70 yeah so you could read a unit as 1 m board and 16 h boards..
17:34 fractal Anduck: any rational person would come to that conclusion.
17:34 Anduck tyrion70: can you also read that a unit is 1 m-board and 1 h-board?
17:34 tyrion70 yes
17:34 Anduck no, they're KITS that are built from boards and cards
17:34 Anduck the kit is same thing is a unit - as we talked earlier
17:34 fractal Anduck: BUT the website says that KIT is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips "
17:34 Anduck fractal: yes it does. and it changed
17:34 mircea_popescu i wonder if this discussion has hashed worth a block by now.
17:34 Anduck but the performance did not
17:34 tyrion70 exactly..
17:34 Anduck the bet wasnt about chip count
17:34 Anduck it was about performance
17:35 tyrion70 it changed.. so it invalidates the bet..
17:35 tyrion70 Bets can indeed be cancelled, but only if BitBet judges that material changes make the bet meaningless.
17:35 Anduck the 25gh and 400gh units performance. both units got chips added but the performance promise is met
17:35 tyrion70 quote from bbet
17:35 tyrion70 the bet was talking about "a unit"...
17:35 fractal Anduck: the 400GH 'UNIT' does infact only hash at 365-380Gh.
17:36 tyrion70 and "a unit" changed during the course of the bet correct anduck?
17:36 fractal even genesisblock calls it a UNIT.. 16 h-bards on 1 m-board
17:36 Anduck 1 m-board with 256 chips does that.
17:36 Anduck tyrion70: unit is the kit. we already talked about this. it's the only way to understand it as thats the only thing defined
17:36 tyrion70 and they changed the kit correct?
17:36 Anduck when the bet talks about unit, it means the kit
17:36 Anduck yes
17:36 Anduck they changed the kit
17:37 Anduck they changed the unit
17:37 tyrion70 exactly..
17:37 FabianB_ mircea_popescu: it's more of a loop of same input again and again
17:37 Anduck thats same thing
17:37 Anduck they changed it, true
17:37 tyrion70 so it invalidates the bet..
17:37 Anduck but the PERFORMANCE is still the same
17:37 Anduck no it does not
17:37 tyrion70 that depends on how you see a unit anduck...
17:37 tyrion70 and by changing the definition of a kit they changed the perspective..
17:37 Anduck if unit===kit, kit gets more chips added === unit gets more chips added
17:37 Anduck the unit must mean the kit since thats what's defined
17:38 tyrion70 thus invalidating the bet..
17:38 Anduck and it's the logical way. the other way would be to think that 1 unit is 1 full m-board. but thats not how it's defined
17:38 fractal Performance is only 1 aspect of the bet -- there are many conditions. 1) it has to ship by sept 1 - yes 2) 5 people have to post it on forums - yes 3) the 400Gh 'UNIT' as defined at the time of writing should hash at 400Gh. - no.
17:38 tyrion70 it isn't defined at all..
17:38 Anduck since there's no such thing as unit defined.. but the kit is defined at bfsb.com
17:38 tyrion70 yes so one could argue that a unit == kit ==256 chips..
17:39 fractal Anduck: any rational person would assume the 400Gh unit to be a KIT as defined on the BFSB.com website.
17:39 tyrion70 and now they changed it to ~300 chips..
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17:39 fractal Anduck: If they never shipped a 'UNIT' then I guess the bet is invalid, since they only shipped 'KITS'?
17:40 Anduck the unit is the same thing as kit. the bet says "25 gh and 400gh unit" and bitfurystrikesback sells 25gh kit and 400gh kit so you can pretty much say those are the same
17:40 Anduck do you disagree?
17:40 Anduck we already talked about this earlier
17:40 fractal OK, and a 400Gh unit, according to the Genesisbloack, and MXRider is defined at 1 M-board and 16 H-cards
17:40 tyrion70 yes but you only remember half of what I said there apparently anduck..
17:40 fractal and it only does 365gh
17:40 Anduck tyrion70: yeah, unit==kit==256 chips but it got changed to ~300 chips. but it maintained the promised performance
17:41 Anduck tyrion70: i remember the conclusion
17:41 tyrion70 that depends on your viewpoint anduck..
17:41 tyrion70 you add $ to the equasion...
17:41 Anduck hmm?
17:41 Anduck people didn't need to pay for the hardware change of the unit
17:41 tyrion70 it's a silent dollar but its there..
17:41 fractal Anduck: don't you think if NO bettors bet based on one definition of UNIT, and then the definition of a UNIT changed, then it's disingenuous to people who bet no?
17:42 tyrion70 wait
17:42 tyrion70 lemme explain this..
17:42 tyrion70 if you would have had to pay more for this board...
17:42 Anduck how did it change fractal?
17:42 Anduck unit refers to the 400gh kit, right
17:42 tyrion70 would you still think its a yes anduck?
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17:42 Anduck tyrion70: yes
17:42 fractal Anduck: 1 UNIT is "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips "
17:42 Anduck tyrion70: o i mean no
17:42 tyrion70 ok
17:42 tyrion70 so you added a variable to the bet..
17:42 Anduck if i had to pay more, it would definately be a no
17:42 tyrion70 $..
17:42 Anduck what?
17:42 tyrion70 but that $ is not in the bet..
17:43 Anduck fractal: 1 unit is 1 kit
17:43 tyrion70 your viewpoint is in dollars..
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17:43 tyrion70 fractals viewpoint is in chips..
17:43 Anduck the bet was about kit performance.
17:43 Anduck the performance of the kit is as promised
17:43 Anduck what's unclear?
17:43 tyrion70 well why would it be a no if they asked for 100$?
17:43 Anduck that someone think unit is strictly 256 chips as they said?
17:43 tyrion70 on what grounds?
17:43 fractal In my view as well, getting more hardware is the same as if the manufacturer missed performance, let them keep the 365Gh UNIT, and offered a $ refund.
17:44 Anduck tyrion70: why are you adding this money variable here since it's totally irrelevant
17:44 tyrion70 its relevant because you don't recognize it as being a variable..
17:44 Anduck but the customer orders 400ghash unit, gets the 400ghash unit, whats the missed performance then?
17:44 fractal Anduck: But they didn't get a 400Gh unit. they got a 365Gh unit.
17:44 Anduck customer pays 15000 usd for the 400ghash unit and gets 400 ghash unit for that 15000 usd
17:45 tyrion70 what I mean to say is that you look at it from a dollar perspective..
17:45 tyrion70 yes
17:45 Anduck fractal: every customer who bought 400gh unit will or did already get 400gh unit.
17:45 Anduck the unit just includes more chips than what was promised
17:45 tyrion70 and fractal payed for a 256 chip 400ghash unit and gets 400 ghash with 300 chips...
17:45 tyrion70 that's a different viewpoint..
17:46 tyrion70 and both chipcount and dollars are not in the bet description..
17:46 tyrion70 hence they are both valid or invalid..
17:46 Anduck but he gets what he paid for, performance wise, right? the bet was only about performance, not about the hardware of the unit
17:46 tyrion70 ok why can't he disagree on 30 more chips.. and you can disagree on 30 more $??
17:46 tyrion70 what's the difference?
17:46 fractal Anduck: But the definition of a unit , as advertised by bsfb.com, was "1 Master board 16 hashing boards with 16 Bitfury 55nm ASIC chips " -- and it is not 400Gh
17:46 Anduck tyrion70: there's only performance requirement for the kit. 400gh kit must do 400gh at <400W
17:46 fractal Anduck: thats not what the bet says
17:47 Anduck fractal: thats the definition yes and it chanegd
17:47 tyrion70 you just said, if you had to pay more it was a no right?
17:47 Anduck it totally changed, so what?
17:47 fractal So what is that its not fair to NO betters who based their bets on the definition of a UNIT as advertsied at the time of writing the bet.
17:47 kakobrekla interestingly enough, the bet doesnt even mention asic chips.
17:47 Anduck because the bet doesn't address the unit hardware, only the unit performance!!!
17:48 Anduck indeed
17:48 fractal And the performance of the UNIT was not 400Gh
17:48 tyrion70 anduck..
17:48 Anduck they could've shipped GPU's worth of 400 ghash
17:48 fractal it was 365Gh
17:48 tyrion70 if it only mentions performance..
17:48 tyrion70 why would the bet be a no if you had to pay 30$ more?
17:48 Anduck but too bad 400 gigahash of GPU's would draw more than >400W so the performance requirement wouldnt be met
17:48 fractal ok, i'll remove the chip count from the description... and add 1-raspberry pi
17:48 Anduck tyrion70: "Bitfury EU August orders"
17:48 Anduck when you pay for your order, it's an order
17:49 Anduck if you get an option to buy something more, it's a different order
17:49 tyrion70 where does it state how much it should cost?
17:49 fractal 1 UNIT is, as advertised - "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B"
17:49 tyrion70 in the bet..
17:49 Anduck fractal: and that changed to more hardware, performance of the unit is still kept as promised
17:50 fractal Anduck: No, performance of the UNIT as defined in the bet is 365Gh
17:50 Anduck you can't talk about 1 unit to be that since there was a different unit/kit available too
17:50 tyrion70 ok
17:50 Anduck they didnt define chips or hardware in the bet
17:50 fractal Anduck: the bet specifically mentions the 400Gh unit.
17:50 tyrion70 anduck..
17:50 tyrion70 what if..
17:50 tyrion70 bitfury.. instead of giving more hardware...
17:50 Anduck bitfurystrikesback.com product description of the 400gh unit:
17:50 Anduck Performance:
17:50 Anduck 400GHash/s
17:50 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
17:50 fractal INCLUDES:- "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B"
17:50 tyrion70 gave you a 1-m and 16h board with 200$?
17:51 tyrion70 would it be a no?
17:51 Anduck tyrion70: it wouldn't produce 400gh so no
17:51 Anduck but the bet addresses performance only, not chip amount
17:52 fractal Anduck: the 400Gh unit doesn't produce 400Gh... it produces 365Gh..... the extra hardware is shipped to make up for performance misses..... its VERY GOOD PR and means bitfury is a great company, but it also means not all condiitons of the bet were met.
17:52 Anduck one orders 400gh, he gets 400gh. it performs 400gh.
17:52 tyrion70 isn't that kind of weird anduck?
17:52 Anduck no?
17:53 tyrion70 the performance of the machine should stay the same
17:53 fractal Anduck: thats right.... nobody is disagreeing with that. We're talking about the bet language which defines a UNIT as as advertised - "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B" -- this is 365Gh
17:53 tyrion70 I'd expect a unit to have a performance..
17:53 Anduck it does define the unit to be 400gh unit or 25gh unit
17:53 Anduck it doesnt address the hardware the unit includes
17:53 Anduck it only addresses the PERFORMANCE of the unit
17:53 fractal Anduck: yes it does. bfsb.com says the hardware unit is "as advertised - "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B""
17:54 Anduck only the performance must be met, nothing about hardware itself
17:54 tyrion70 ok but it means that bitfury can influence the outcome of the bet with a technicality..
17:54 Anduck fractal: yeah but thats not the performance promise lol
17:54 fractal a UNIT has to have performance. and the definition of the UNIT is what bfsb.com says -as advertised - "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B"
17:54 Anduck tyrion70: how so?
17:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024 = 0.12 BTC [+]
17:54 Anduck bitfurystrikesback defines their 400gh kit performance this way:
17:54 Anduck Performance:
17:54 Anduck 400GHash/s
17:54 Anduck Total power draw max. 400W (Efficiency at wall depends on your PSU)
17:54 Anduck that is what the bet talks about, right?
17:55 tyrion70 well.. if they bet on Yes they would fix that with this solution.. whilst not improving the hardware itself..
17:55 fractal For a UNIT to have performance, there has to be a UNIT that someone can speak of .... the UNIT is question is " "1 Master board. 16 hashing boards. 1 Raspberry Pi Model B"
17:55 Anduck tyrion70: they could do whatever they want, add or remove the hardware. think about that what if 1 h-card produced 50 ghash
17:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024 = 0.12 BTC [+]
17:55 Anduck would they ship 16 h-cards as promised for 400gh unit?
17:55 Anduck no, they would ship 400gh worth of h-cards
17:56 fractal Anduck: then the bet would be a yes. it would over-perform.
17:56 tyrion70 well if I ordered them and I cleared shelves in my rack I'd be very sad if they were 10 times as large as advertized...
17:56 Anduck which would only make it 8 h-cards. the customer buys 400gh unit. 400gh unit produces 400gh
17:56 tyrion70 From my viewpoint they would not meet performance..
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17:57 Anduck it's not really relevant does the kit include 10000 chips or 10 chips to make the 400gh unit hash that 400gh. the requirement in the bet was that 400gh unit hashes 400gh at <400W
17:57 Anduck and that is met.
17:58 tyrion70 they changed the definition of a unit halfway the bet..
17:58 Anduck how?
17:58 Anduck the unit is 400gh unit. unit produces 400gh < 400W
17:58 tyrion70 by making it larger..
17:58 Anduck yeah
17:58 Anduck but performance didnt change
17:58 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.00179 = 0.0179 BTC [-]
17:58 Anduck the bet was only about performance, not about sizee
17:59 tyrion70 but apparently it was about dollars..
17:59 fractal Anduck: The bet says performance for a 400Gh UNIT.
17:59 fractal the definition of a UNIT here is very important.
17:59 tyrion70 cuz if you had to pay more it would have been a no..
17:59 saulimus you've been talking about this for more than an hour
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17:59 Anduck weve talked about this for about 6-7 hours
18:00 saulimus stop talking then, it's clearly going nowhere
18:00 Anduck the bet doesnt require certain chip amount, only performance promise must be met
18:00 Anduck yups
18:00 tyrion70 only 2,5 hours to go :p
18:00 Anduck 2 hours now!
18:00 tyrion70 :)
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18:00 fractal saulimus is right.... I'll unilaterally stop discussion for a while. so I can regain my sanity.
18:00 tyrion70 we'll see what they decide..
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18:01 tyrion70 glad i didn't bet :p
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18:01 fractal I think this is a serious discussion to have If i were bitbet.... its clear they shipped on time and are a great company .... but the language of the bet here -- specifically what a 'UNIT' is defined as-- is very important.
18:01 fractal I hope they dont decide without a long discussion
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18:03 tyrion70 :)
18:03 fractal be back later...
18:03 fractal my fingers hurt ;)
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18:04 tyrion70 ciao
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18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.44 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.42 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 2.44 = 29.28 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0239 BTC [-]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [BFMINES] 10 @ 0.001632 = 0.0163 BTC [-]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [W4A-BOOK] 1 @ 0.1801 BTC [-]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [W4A-BOOK] 10 @ 0.18 = 1.8 BTC [-]
18:10 zoinky does BTCT have a websocket?
18:11 zoinky wheres assbot get its feed?
18:11 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [+]
18:12 pankkake it doesn't have a web socket, at least not a public one. even the "realtime" thing is just a page refreshed every other second
18:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.0008699 = 0.0017 BTC [+]
18:15 zoinky yeah
18:15 zoinky noticed that
18:16 zoinky so is the easiest way to get a feed to have a ircbot watching assbot?
18:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 12 @ 0.0008699 = 0.0104 BTC [+]
18:17 rulother-tab Krytotrade.com is neat
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3 @ 0.024 = 0.072 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.024 = 0.36 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.024 = 1.08 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.44 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [+]
18:28 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.01692 = 0.0508 BTC [+]
18:29 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 26 @ 0.003375 = 0.0878 BTC [+]
18:31 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [+]
18:32 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 10 @ 0.00325 = 0.0325 BTC [+]
18:33 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16 @ 0.003599 = 0.0576 BTC [+]
18:33 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9 @ 0.0036 = 0.0324 BTC [+]
18:33 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16 @ 0.0036 = 0.0576 BTC [+]
18:34 assbot [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 1 @ 0.00325 BTC [+]
18:35 zoinky who runs assbot?
18:36 mircea_popescu kakobrekla
18:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00087082 = 1.5675 BTC [-]
18:39 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 70 @ 0.0007803 = 0.0546 BTC [+]
18:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 43 @ 0.024 = 1.032 BTC [+]
18:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.024 = 0.24 BTC [+]
18:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 3 @ 0.0031 = 0.0093 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 270 @ 0.00411 = 1.1097 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 983 @ 0.004109 = 4.0391 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 99 @ 0.004109 = 0.4068 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 3 @ 0.004107 = 0.0123 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.004105 = 0.2053 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1183 @ 0.004105 = 4.8562 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1000 @ 0.004104 = 4.104 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 128 @ 0.004101 = 0.5249 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 190 @ 0.0041 = 0.779 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2500 @ 0.0041 = 10.25 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0041 = 0.041 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.0041 = 2.05 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 711 @ 0.004031 = 2.866 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 600 @ 0.00403 = 2.418 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 300 @ 0.004025 = 1.2075 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 40 @ 0.004025 = 0.161 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 200 @ 0.004008 = 0.8016 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.004003 = 1.0008 BTC [-]
18:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5 @ 0.004001 = 0.02 BTC [-]
18:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5000 @ 0.004001 = 20.005 BTC [-]
18:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.0033 = 0.0099 BTC [-]
18:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.0033 = 0.0066 BTC [-]
18:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.0033 = 0.0099 BTC [-]
18:49 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 340 @ 0.0033 = 1.122 BTC [-]
18:50 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.003374 BTC [+]
18:51 thestringpuller !last btctc dms.selling
18:51 assbot Last trade for DMS.SELLING on BTCTC was at 0.01285 BTC [+]
18:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 99 @ 0.004003 = 0.3963 BTC [+]
18:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 26 @ 0.004007 = 0.1042 BTC [+]
18:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.004006 = 0.008 BTC [-]
18:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 87 @ 0.004005 = 0.3484 BTC [-]
18:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1000 @ 0.004002 = 4.002 BTC [-]
18:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 75 @ 0.004002 = 0.3002 BTC [-]
18:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5 @ 0.004 = 0.02 BTC [-]
18:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5 @ 0.004 = 0.02 BTC [-]
18:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 490 @ 0.004 = 1.96 BTC [-]
18:59 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+]
19:02 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 16 @ 0.003579 = 0.0573 BTC [-]
19:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00087082 = 4.4412 BTC [-]
19:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00087026 = 2.6978 BTC [-]
19:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4758 @ 0.00086884 = 4.1339 BTC [-]
19:08 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003559 = 0.0107 BTC [-]
19:10 Rulother-pc Good good
19:13 kleeck_ eeeeexcelent
19:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.499 BTC [+]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 38 @ 0.003226 = 0.1226 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 300 @ 0.003225 = 0.9675 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 22 @ 0.00322 = 0.0708 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.003213 = 0.0096 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.00321 = 0.0096 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.003201 = 0.0064 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.003201 = 0.3201 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 41 @ 0.0032 = 0.1312 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.0032 = 0.0192 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0032 BTC [-]
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0032 BTC [-]
19:19 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [+]
19:26 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
19:26 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 140.44190, Best ask: 140.44192, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 140.44192, 24 hour volume: 29621.29593549, 24 hour low: 135.89000, 24 hour high: 148.70000, 24 hour vwap: 143.02056
19:26 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
19:26 gribble 693780.353343
19:26 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
19:26 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 83153841.6921 based on data since last change | 96918516.8521 based on data for last three days
19:27 pankkake ;;ticker --bitstamp
19:27 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message)
19:27 pankkake ;;ticker --market bitstamp
19:27 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 127.03, Best ask: 128.90, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 127.03, 24 hour volume: 19393.68175885, 24 hour low: 124.65, 24 hour high: 134.95, 24 hour vwap: None
19:27 rulother-tab Not bad
19:29 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.181 BTC [-]
19:30 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
19:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.44 = 17.08 BTC [-]
19:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.438 BTC [-]
19:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.438 = 9.752 BTC [-]
19:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.437 BTC [-]
19:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.436 = 48.72 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [+]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 15 @ 0.00402 = 0.0603 BTC [+]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5 @ 0.00402 = 0.0201 BTC [+]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.00401 = 2.005 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 200 @ 0.004008 = 0.8016 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 320 @ 0.004 = 1.28 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5 @ 0.004 = 0.02 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1630 @ 0.004 = 6.52 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 11 @ 0.01588 = 0.1747 BTC [-]
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.0240002 = 0.216 BTC [+]
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 12 @ 0.02400001 = 0.288 BTC [-]
19:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.024 = 0.432 BTC [-]
19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.024 = 0.48 BTC [-]
20:00 Anduck mircea_popescu: yes/no ?
20:00 mircea_popescu hm ?
20:00 Anduck bitfury bet resolution time
20:00 Anduck is ended.
20:01 mircea_popescu dude, get some sleep. it's not going anywhere.
20:01 Anduck :(
20:05 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [+]
20:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.004 = 0.016 BTC [-]
20:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.004 = 0.1 BTC [-]
20:06 qqq111 that bet should probably be nullified. imo. (though i would lean toward the no side)
20:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 0.1705 BTC [-]
20:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.00086984 = 4.0517 BTC [+]
20:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4042 @ 0.00087099 = 3.5205 BTC [+]
20:07 mircea_popescu qqq111 who're you ?
20:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.17 = 1.02 BTC [-]
20:08 qqq111 well, i am qqq111.
20:08 mircea_popescu ic.
20:10 LorenzoMoney a joke
20:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2981 @ 0.004 = 11.924 BTC [-]
20:14 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 49 @ 0.003162 = 0.1549 BTC [-]
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 11 @ 0.00367 = 0.0404 BTC [+]
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003671 = 0.0734 BTC [+]
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 80 @ 0.003681 = 0.2945 BTC [+]
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 541 @ 0.003721 = 2.0131 BTC [+]
20:15 qqq111 looking at it from a PR viewpoint for bitbet, it would probably be best to nullify... avoid the inevitable forum shitstorm. (unless thats what the owners want ;)
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 360 @ 0.004 = 1.44 BTC [-]
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1640 @ 0.004 = 6.56 BTC [-]
20:15 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 35 @ 0.0033 = 0.1155 BTC [+]
20:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 532 @ 0.004 = 2.128 BTC [-]
20:17 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 465 @ 0.003717 = 1.7284 BTC [-]
20:17 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 709 @ 0.003719 = 2.6368 BTC [+]
20:17 mircea_popescu qqq111 you're a pr expert then ?
20:19 qqq111 i wish. i'd probably have more money then i do now..
20:19 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003719 = 0.0744 BTC [+]
20:19 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 380 @ 0.00372 = 1.4136 BTC [+]
20:20 qqq111 I'm surprised there isn't a 'US will strike syria by X date' bet
20:22 qqq111 this one is close i guess http://bitbet.us/bet/515/the-us-will-be-specifically-involved-in-another/
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.00372 = 0.0744 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 347 @ 0.00372 = 1.2908 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 200 @ 0.00372 = 0.744 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 347 @ 0.00372 = 1.2908 BTC [+]
20:23 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 46 @ 0.00372 = 0.1711 BTC [+]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [BFMINES] 29 @ 0.0025 = 0.0725 BTC [+]
20:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13 @ 0.00372 = 0.0484 BTC [+]
20:25 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 2 @ 0.001799 = 0.0036 BTC [+]
20:25 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 65 @ 0.0033 = 0.2145 BTC [+]
20:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00087099 = 3.5275 BTC [+]
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 72 @ 0.024 = 1.728 BTC [+]
20:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 60 @ 0.00372 = 0.2232 BTC [+]
20:38 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0032 = 0.32 BTC [-]
20:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00087099 = 9.5809 BTC [+]
20:42 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 38 @ 0.00372 = 0.1414 BTC [+]
20:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00087099 = 6.576 BTC [+]
~ 18 minutes ~
21:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024 BTC [+]
21:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 35 @ 0.0128 = 0.448 BTC [-]
21:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 60 @ 0.0128 = 0.768 BTC [-]
21:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 124 @ 0.01283 = 1.5909 BTC [+]
21:03 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 161 @ 0.01284 = 2.0672 BTC [+]
21:05 pankkake hm, the bet says the *US Congress* will authorize it
21:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 233 @ 0.00372 = 0.8668 BTC [+]
21:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 27 @ 0.00372 = 0.1004 BTC [+]
21:08 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12 @ 0.003718 = 0.0446 BTC [-]
21:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 2.5 = 12.5 BTC [+]
21:14 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003718 = 0.0074 BTC [-]
21:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2 @ 0.001185 = 0.0024 BTC [-]
21:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00087011 = 3.5675 BTC [-]
~ 17 minutes ~
21:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 850 @ 0.004001 = 3.4009 BTC [+]
21:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 328 @ 0.004 = 1.312 BTC [-]
21:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]
21:43 assbot [BTCTC] [CB.IDIFF-E] 10 @ 0.022 = 0.22 BTC [-]
21:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 300 @ 0.003999 = 1.1997 BTC [-]
21:50 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 10 @ 0.001651 = 0.0165 BTC [-]
21:50 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 7 @ 0.00165 = 0.0116 BTC [-]
21:50 assbot [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 983 @ 0.001603 = 1.5757 BTC [-]
21:51 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 184 @ 0.003718 = 0.6841 BTC [-]
21:52 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 155 @ 0.003718 = 0.5763 BTC [-]
21:52 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 85 @ 0.00372 = 0.3162 BTC [+]
21:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00087011 = 6.8739 BTC [-]
21:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00087099 = 2.5259 BTC [+]
21:58 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 30 @ 0.00372 = 0.1116 BTC [+]
21:59 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 34 @ 0.00372 = 0.1265 BTC [+]
22:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.0245 BTC [+]
22:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1000 @ 0.00396 = 3.96 BTC [-]
22:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 300 @ 0.00395 = 1.185 BTC [-]
22:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 55 @ 0.0039 = 0.2145 BTC [-]
22:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 363 @ 0.003896 = 1.4142 BTC [-]
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.0032 = 0.0096 BTC [-]
22:13 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.0032 BTC [-]
22:16 the20year Howdee
22:16 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 21 @ 0.0032 = 0.0672 BTC [-]
22:20 jorash heero
22:23 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 85 @ 0.003617 = 0.3074 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003616 = 0.0723 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 546 @ 0.003571 = 1.9498 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 136 @ 0.003569 = 0.4854 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 125 @ 0.003563 = 0.4454 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.003562 = 1.781 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1210 @ 0.003556 = 4.3028 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2600 @ 0.003555 = 9.243 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 109 @ 0.003555 = 0.3875 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2133 @ 0.003553 = 7.5785 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 941 @ 0.003551 = 3.3415 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3765 @ 0.00355 = 13.3658 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24 @ 0.003545 = 0.0851 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 98 @ 0.003544 = 0.3473 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 575 @ 0.00354 = 2.0355 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2300 @ 0.003539 = 8.1397 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24 @ 0.003517 = 0.0844 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 97 @ 0.003516 = 0.3411 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.003513 = 0.1757 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003512 = 0.3512 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003511 = 0.3511 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.00351 BTC [-]
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 37 @ 0.003506 = 0.1297 BTC [-]
22:25 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003505 BTC [-]
22:25 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 150 @ 0.003505 = 0.5258 BTC [-]
22:25 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 702 @ 0.003501 = 2.4577 BTC [-]
22:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 35 @ 0.001145 = 0.0401 BTC [-]
22:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00114 BTC [-]
22:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.001131 BTC [-]
22:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 8 @ 0.001131 = 0.009 BTC [-]
22:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 4 @ 0.00113 = 0.0045 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 227 @ 0.00110001 = 0.2497 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 39 @ 0.0011 = 0.0429 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 5 @ 0.0010999 = 0.0055 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00109 = 0.0109 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.0010801 = 0.0108 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00108 = 0.0108 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.0010777 = 0.0108 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.001076 = 0.0108 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 800 @ 0.00107501 = 0.86 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00107501 = 0.0108 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00107 = 0.0107 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 717 @ 0.001066 = 0.7643 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2 @ 0.00106 = 0.0021 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00106 = 0.0106 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 176 @ 0.00105506 = 0.1857 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 6000 @ 0.00105505 = 6.3303 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 111 @ 0.00105504 = 0.1171 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00105501 = 0.2638 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 5400 @ 0.001055 = 5.697 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 50 @ 0.00105 = 0.0525 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00105 = 1.05 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00105 = 0.0105 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.00105 = 0.021 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2 @ 0.001044 = 0.0021 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.001044 = 0.094 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.001041 = 0.2603 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00104 = 0.0104 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00103911 = 1.0391 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.0010391 = 0.4156 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00103701 = 0.0104 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 5000 @ 0.001037 = 5.185 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 150 @ 0.00103671 = 0.1555 BTC [-]
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 3142 @ 0.001035 = 3.252 BTC [-]
22:30 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 34 @ 0.65 = 22.1 BTC [+]
22:32 mod6 ;;nethash
22:32 gribble 703837.39756
22:32 mod6 wow
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 461 @ 0.003524 = 1.6246 BTC [+]
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 115 @ 0.003522 = 0.405 BTC [-]
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 250 @ 0.003517 = 0.8793 BTC [-]
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.003516 = 3.516 BTC [-]
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2762 @ 0.003501 = 9.6698 BTC [-]
22:33 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6510 @ 0.0035 = 22.785 BTC [-]
22:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 1 @ 0.00376 BTC [+]
22:33 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.00261 = 0.0522 BTC [+]
22:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.433 BTC [-]
22:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.433 = 4.866 BTC [-]
22:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.432 BTC [-]
22:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.432 = 4.864 BTC [-]
22:35 the20year Anyone know what fund approval length is for BTCT?
22:35 the20year IE how long to get approved?
22:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00086884 = 3.3381 BTC [-]
22:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9858 @ 0.00086767 = 8.5535 BTC [-]
22:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 100 @ 0.0002335 = 0.0234 BTC [+]
22:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.56600001 = 1.132 BTC [+]
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.566 = 1.698 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 409 @ 0.003528 = 1.443 BTC [+]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003526 = 0.3526 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 450 @ 0.003515 = 1.5818 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.003502 = 3.502 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1840 @ 0.0035 = 6.44 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.0035 = 3.5 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.0035 = 1.05 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1400 @ 0.0035 = 4.9 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 397 @ 0.0002104 = 0.0835 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 115 @ 0.0002103 = 0.0242 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 398 @ 0.00021002 = 0.0836 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 90 @ 0.00021001 = 0.0189 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.431 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.43 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.425 = 4.85 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.423 = 7.269 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 2.423 = 41.191 BTC [-]
22:45 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 20 @ 0.0008597 = 0.0172 BTC [-]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 341 @ 0.003578 = 1.2201 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.003579 = 1.7895 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.00358 = 1.79 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 341 @ 0.003583 = 1.2218 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.003651 = 0.3614 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.003652 = 0.3615 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 85 @ 0.003667 = 0.3117 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 85 @ 0.003668 = 0.3118 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1324 @ 0.003679 = 4.871 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1225 @ 0.00368 = 4.508 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 99 @ 0.00368 = 0.3643 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1876 @ 0.003689 = 6.9206 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1876 @ 0.00369 = 6.9224 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2726 @ 0.003697 = 10.078 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003698 = 0.3698 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2348 @ 0.0037 = 8.6876 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 96 @ 0.003708 = 0.356 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 990 @ 0.003715 = 3.6779 BTC [+]
22:48 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1540 @ 0.00372 = 5.7288 BTC [+]
22:48 VanCleef such a bad pump
22:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BFMINES] 5 @ 0.0032 = 0.016 BTC [+]
23:00 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.003688 = 0.0258 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.423 = 7.269 BTC [-]
23:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 40 @ 0.00117999 = 0.0472 BTC [+]
23:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 10 @ 0.00375 = 0.0375 BTC [-]
23:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 61 @ 0.00350001 = 0.2135 BTC [-]
23:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 71 @ 0.00350001 = 0.2485 BTC [-]
23:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 58 @ 0.00350001 = 0.203 BTC [-]
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.0245 BTC [+]
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2 @ 0.0245 = 0.049 BTC [+]
23:07 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 35 @ 0.003688 = 0.1291 BTC [-]
23:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 90 @ 0.00399 = 0.3591 BTC [+]
23:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 4 @ 0.0245 = 0.098 BTC [+]
23:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00117999 BTC [+]
23:13 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 210 @ 0.003688 = 0.7745 BTC [-]
23:14 assbot [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 19 @ 0.65 = 12.35 BTC [+]
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 14 @ 0.00350001 = 0.049 BTC [-]
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 12 @ 0.00300007 = 0.036 BTC [-]
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 20 @ 0.00300006 = 0.06 BTC [-]
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 111 @ 0.003 = 0.333 BTC [-]
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 143 @ 0.003 = 0.429 BTC [-]
23:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.00399 = 0.008 BTC [+]
23:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 75 @ 0.00021001 = 0.0158 BTC [-]
23:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 9 @ 0.00117999 = 0.0106 BTC [+]
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00117999 BTC [+]
23:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.00399 BTC [+]
23:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.00399 BTC [+]
23:27 thestringpuller .d
23:27 ozbot 65750060.14908 | Next Diff in 630 blocks | Estimated Change: 27.3936% in 3d 3h 57m 45s
23:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.00399 BTC [+]
23:28 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.0032 + 0.0128
23:28 gribble 0.016
23:29 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.0032 + 0.01284
23:29 gribble 0.01604
23:31 assbot [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 38 @ 0.01588 = 0.6034 BTC [-]
23:34 thestringpuller ;;calc (0.01604 - 0.01588)/0.01588
23:34 gribble 0.0100755667506
23:34 thestringpuller ;;calc (0.01604 - 0.01588)/0.01604
23:34 gribble 0.00997506234414
23:44 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.173 BTC [-]
23:46 thestringpuller ;;calc (0.5972 - 0.5)/(0.5)
23:46 gribble 0.1944
23:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.024 BTC [-]
23:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0235 = 1.175 BTC [-]
23:51 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1982 = 0.3964 BTC [-]
23:53 assbot [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 350 @ 0.003625 = 1.2688 BTC [-]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.45 = 9.8 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.477 = 4.954 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.479 = 9.916 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.48 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.485 = 4.97 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.505 = 5.01 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.507 = 10.028 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.51 = 7.53 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.529 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.529 = 7.587 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.53 = 10.12 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.53 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.54 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.54 = 5.08 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.54 = 5.08 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 18 @ 2.545 = 45.81 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.55 = 51 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.563 = 10.252 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.565 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.565 = 7.695 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.589 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.59 = 5.18 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 2.59 = 51.8 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.599 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.599 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.6 = 10.4 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.6 = 10.4 BTC [+]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1300 @ 0.003899 = 5.0687 BTC [-]
23:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1300 @ 0.0039 = 5.07 BTC [+]
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