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← 2013-06-02 | 2013-06-04 → ↓
00:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00072428 = 0.0152 BTC [+]
00:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1279 @ 0.00072455 = 0.9267 BTC [+]
00:05 ThickAsThieves np!
00:18 Diablo-D3 hey whats the current valuation of asicminer?
00:24 inhies lots.
00:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.024665 = 0.0987 BTC [+]
00:25 Diablo-D3 heh
00:25 Diablo-D3 DMC monthly report is out
00:25 Diablo-D3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg2355025#msg2355025
00:25 Diablo-D3 which, btw
00:25 Diablo-D3 we've now crossed into profit
00:29 KRS-1 is your ipo listed online Diablo
00:30 KRS-1 i'd like to look at it
00:30 Diablo-D3 KRS-1: the IPO was canceled when GLBSE crashed
00:30 Diablo-D3 DMC is going private so it can relaunch
00:31 KRS-1 ok
00:31 KRS-1 what about GLVSE 2
00:31 KRS-1 GLBSEv2
00:31 Diablo-D3 there isnt one
00:31 KRS-1 oh my bad i thought there was
00:32 Diablo-D3 if you're asking what DMC was relisted on, its bitfunder
00:32 KRS-1 ok
00:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024665 = 0.074 BTC [+]
00:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.46 = 12.3 BTC [-]
00:35 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.456 = 24.56 BTC [-]
00:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.7 BTC [-]
00:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.455 BTC [-]
00:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.454 BTC [-]
00:38 Diablo-D3 so at least DMC is now profitable
00:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.451 BTC [-]
00:39 Diablo-D3 so no matter what happens after today
00:39 Diablo-D3 I still won.
00:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.451 = 14.706 BTC [-]
00:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00072156 = 2.0204 BTC [-]
00:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00072125 = 1.3855 BTC [-]
00:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13179 @ 0.00072112 = 9.5036 BTC [-]
00:40 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000706 BTC [+]
00:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024653 = 0.074 BTC [-]
00:42 Diablo-D3 usagi, ThickAsThieves, Chaang-Noi: ^
00:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.024062 = 0.1444 BTC [-]
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00072112 = 2.7705 BTC [-]
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072079 = 3.1145 BTC [-]
00:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2007 @ 0.00072078 = 1.4466 BTC [-]
00:44 usagi Profitable is good
00:44 usagi But if you say you won now I'd slap you... thats a concession
00:45 usagi You're conceeding and saying you won without achieving the dream
00:45 Diablo-D3 no, I mean I won against nefario
00:45 Diablo-D3 he tried to bury dmc and the shareholders, and he didnt win
00:45 Diablo-D3 everything that has been paid into it has been paid back
00:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 86 @ 0.0248 = 2.1328 BTC [+]
00:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 47 @ 0.02487 = 1.1689 BTC [+]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.187 = 0.935 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.186 = 0.93 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.185 = 1.85 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.184 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.184 = 1.656 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.183 BTC [-]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.182 BTC [-]
00:55 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.181 BTC [-]
00:55 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
01:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.024665 = 0.518 BTC [+]
01:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.024669 = 0.8881 BTC [+]
01:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.024686 = 1.0368 BTC [+]
01:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.451 = 7.353 BTC [-]
01:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.024686 = 0.2715 BTC [+]
01:12 furuknap ;;bc,stats
01:12 gribble Current Blocks: 239410 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 493 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 10 hours, 17 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15080165.2799 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.08174
01:12 Diablo-D3 lol
01:12 furuknap Geez
01:13 furuknap Well, there goes every mining bond dream...
01:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02487 = 0.1244 BTC [+]
01:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.1201 BTC [-]
01:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4511 BTC [+]
01:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.451 BTC [-]
01:19 ericmuyser furuknap: that's a fml right there. should dump my preorders and roll the dice at satoshi
01:19 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.0215 = 0.0645 BTC [+]
01:20 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.01556 = 0.0467 BTC [-]
01:21 ericmuyser and you already got guys marking up bitfury's from 17btc to 30 or 40btc.. giving it 0.003 per MH, waiting 3+ months, about half of TAT's IPO that's *right now* and still not going to be very profitable. yawn....
01:21 ericmuyser YABMC is 0.0041, also *right now*
01:22 Chaang-Noi soneone just asked me if they can join project #2 my over 100% pool that was closed over 2 eyars ago!
01:27 ericmuyser the only profit soon (kind of now) will be in hosting group buys and your own mining bonds. yup.
01:28 Chaang-Noi he wants to gpu mine with 2ghs
01:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02487 = 0.0497 BTC [+]
01:29 Namworld I can brain-mine at the amazing speed of 1 phy.
01:31 Chaang-Noi you are satoshi returned!
01:31 Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: did you hear what I said earlier?
01:31 Namworld 1 picohash/year. Will take me 1 trillion year to bother to learn how and calculate an hash with my brain.
01:31 Diablo-D3 dmc finally became profitable.
01:31 Namworld Not to be confused with 1 Petahash/yoctosecond
01:32 Chaang-Noi d3, you got lucky on AM stock and broke even for the last investors, but many who invested lost massive amounts, something like that right?
01:32 Diablo-D3 not really.
01:32 Chaang-Noi anyway breaking even after 1 year is not really a win
01:32 Diablo-D3 breaking even after nefario completely fucked everything up is a win
01:32 Chaang-Noi also did you not want to build your datacenter and mining operation, was that not the goal?
01:33 Chaang-Noi yes, nefario is a fuck wit, but really AM saved your ass here
01:33 Diablo-D3 its not that AM saved my ass
01:33 Diablo-D3 its that I decided AM was a good investment
01:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02469 = 0.0494 BTC [+]
01:33 Chaang-Noi okay, well good job then, congrats:)
01:34 Diablo-D3 and I still want to build the DC, but DMC doesnt have enough money for that
01:34 Chaang-Noi understand
01:35 Diablo-D3 the real goal of DMC was to make BTC prices go up drastically
01:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0248001 = 0.0496 BTC [-]
01:35 Chaang-Noi mision acomplished!
01:36 Diablo-D3 not really
01:36 Diablo-D3 we never hit $1000.
01:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02469 = 0.0494 BTC [+]
01:36 Chaang-Noi then, you fail!
01:36 Diablo-D3 Im not done yet.
01:36 ericmuyser breaking even from GLBSE debacle looks like a small win
01:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.024909 = 0.1495 BTC [+]
01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072091 = 3.1151 BTC [+]
01:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12379 @ 0.00072078 = 8.9225 BTC [-]
01:52 Chaang-Noi yeah glbse was a cluster fuck
01:53 Chaang-Noi i still wonder if nefario shut it down to spit me, or spite theymos or just cuz he was crazy, or if he wanted to take the money and run
01:53 Namworld I assume crazy...
01:56 Chaang-Noi he was off and on
01:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.2339 = 0.9356 BTC [-]
02:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.024909 = 0.1495 BTC [+]
02:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.024909 = 0.8469 BTC [+]
02:18 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00876 BTC [+]
02:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.02476 = 0.9904 BTC [+]
02:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.024784 = 0.5205 BTC [+]
02:25 ericmuyser I like how somebody bought 1000 of TAT.VM at 0.007 then sold out at 0.0007. we got dem geniuses up here on bitfunder
02:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7316 @ 0.00072132 = 5.2772 BTC [+]
02:39 eyetalian how can you make bitcoin prices rise to 1000?
02:40 Namworld You can't
02:40 abillionhorses ive done it b4
02:41 eyetalian what did diablo-d3 mean by that?
02:41 Namworld No idea
02:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024784 = 0.0744 BTC [+]
~ 23 minutes ~
03:16 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 18 @ 0.1094 = 1.9692 BTC [+]
03:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0248001 = 0.62 BTC [-]
03:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0248 = 0.0744 BTC [-]
03:20 usagi I always had a feeling that the reason GLBSE shut down is because nefario got hooked on coke
03:20 usagi he was never the same after the conference
03:32 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109945 = 0.2199 BTC [+]
03:33 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10999 = 0.22 BTC [+]
03:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.01 = 0.07 BTC [+]
03:39 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 18 @ 0.1094 = 1.9692 BTC [-]
03:43 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-]
03:43 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.08 = 0.64 BTC [-]
03:51 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 16 @ 0.00084 = 0.0134 BTC [-]
04:01 usagi <abillionhorses> ive done it b4
04:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.024784 = 0.1983 BTC [+]
04:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0248 = 0.124 BTC [-]
04:08 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10999 BTC [+]
04:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.0007212 = 9.5198 BTC [-]
04:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.024784 = 0.2478 BTC [+]
04:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024787 = 0.0496 BTC [+]
04:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.46 = 17.22 BTC [+]
04:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.476 BTC [+]
04:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024787 BTC [+]
04:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.476 BTC [+]
04:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02479 = 0.0992 BTC [+]
04:57 moonlander Hello, why is http://bitbet.us/bet/439/bitcoin-bigger-than-obama-in-may/ not resolved yet?
05:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.47 = 4.94 BTC [-]
05:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.460001 BTC [-]
05:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.46 = 9.84 BTC [-]
05:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.45103 BTC [-]
05:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 2.45102 = 29.4122 BTC [-]
05:04 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.679899 BTC [+]
05:05 assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.448 BTC [+]
05:06 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 13 @ 0.0215 = 0.2795 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.7676 BTC [+]
05:08 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.326845 = 0.9805 BTC [-]
05:08 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.002899 = 0.0087 BTC [+]
05:09 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
05:23 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.679899 BTC [+]
05:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.02479 = 0.3471 BTC [+]
05:35 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.679899 BTC [+]
05:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.0007212 = 2.7406 BTC [-]
05:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00072078 = 1.0812 BTC [-]
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 67 @ 0.0246 = 1.6482 BTC [-]
05:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.661301 BTC [-]
05:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4 BTC [-]
05:58 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.6613 BTC [-]
05:58 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.6501 BTC [-]
06:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.02479 = 1.0412 BTC [+]
06:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.024795 = 0.9174 BTC [+]
06:04 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 12 @ 0.000804 = 0.0096 BTC [-]
06:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02489 = 0.224 BTC [+]
06:09 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.002899 = 0.0406 BTC [+]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024794 BTC [-]
06:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024795 BTC [+]
06:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4765 BTC [+]
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3014 @ 0.00072078 = 2.1724 BTC [-]
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00072024 = 1.6566 BTC [-]
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5388 @ 0.00072016 = 3.8802 BTC [-]
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16540 @ 0.00072001 = 11.909 BTC [-]
06:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4608 @ 0.00071866 = 3.3116 BTC [-]
06:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000839 = 0.0017 BTC [+]
06:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.47699 BTC [+]
06:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.477 BTC [+]
06:24 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.650001 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 42 @ 0.024795 = 1.0414 BTC [+]
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00072132 = 3.2099 BTC [+]
06:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.02489 = 0.4978 BTC [+]
06:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.47699 = 4.954 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
06:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.024795 = 0.8182 BTC [+]
06:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 67 @ 0.024686 = 1.654 BTC [-]
07:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.477 BTC [+]
07:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.0246 = 4.92 BTC [-]
07:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 834 @ 0.00072132 = 0.6016 BTC [+]
07:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4108 @ 0.00072135 = 2.9633 BTC [+]
07:15 Andrew____ SELL 5 PUT JUN 115 @ 12 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223626.0
07:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3518 @ 0.00072135 = 2.5377 BTC [+]
07:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072187 = 3.1192 BTC [+]
07:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8461 @ 0.00072217 = 6.1103 BTC [+]
07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3329 @ 0.00072217 = 2.4041 BTC [+]
07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072481 = 3.1319 BTC [+]
07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3404 @ 0.00072482 = 2.4673 BTC [+]
07:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.02489 = 0.4978 BTC [+]
~ 17 minutes ~
07:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.0247 = 0.5681 BTC [+]
07:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.024686 = 0.1728 BTC [-]
07:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071989 = 3.1106 BTC [-]
07:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 379 @ 0.00071963 = 0.2727 BTC [-]
08:00 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 11 @ 0.000839 = 0.0092 BTC [+]
08:03 Neil You know the US is full of w**kers when even TC get forcibly investigated because some whining loser had nothing better to do with their miserable life.
08:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02488 BTC [+]
~ 24 minutes ~
08:31 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 48 @ 0.0169 = 0.8112 BTC [+]
08:37 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
08:37 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.00001, Best ask: 117.17689, Bid-ask spread: 0.17688, Last trade: 117.17689, 24 hour volume: 51045.44233672, 24 hour low: 115.00000, 24 hour high: 123.23187, 24 hour vwap: 118.17462
08:40 ThickAsThieves mp, looks like mpex is done for, some guy is manually selling options on the forum using ripple
08:40 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1098 = 0.549 BTC [-]
08:40 ThickAsThieves was nice knowing you
08:40 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.1099 = 1.6485 BTC [+]
08:40 mircea_popescu lol ty.
08:40 ThickAsThieves :)
08:40 mircea_popescu you know how many peeps have been selling options since 2011 ?
08:41 mircea_popescu for that matter,y ou knwo some guy made a straight clone last year ?
08:41 ThickAsThieves heh
08:41 mircea_popescu i mean literally, exact same design. and then PRETENDED HE DIDN'T CLONE IT
08:41 ThickAsThieves he couldve at least owned it
08:42 mircea_popescu and then he had a team of experts
08:42 ThickAsThieves dont we all?
08:42 mircea_popescu and then he was going to take over
08:42 ThickAsThieves my team is cranking away right behind me
08:42 mircea_popescu and then wasn't heard from again
08:42 ThickAsThieves a team of cats
08:42 mircea_popescu and i can't even remember his name or anything
08:42 mircea_popescu lol a herd of milk cats. for to make cheshire cheez.
08:43 ThickAsThieves hehe
08:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072016 = 3.1118 BTC [+]
08:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13329 @ 0.0007201 = 9.5982 BTC [-]
08:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.02489 = 3.7335 BTC [+]
08:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2335 = 0.467 BTC [-]
08:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.2335 = 1.868 BTC [-]
09:00 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 15 @ 0.08 = 1.2 BTC [-]
09:00 mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-may-2013-statement/
09:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.0007201 = 12.4937 BTC [-]
09:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 600 @ 0.00149999 = 0.9 BTC [-]
09:13 ThickAsThieves mp, random idea/question, why not convert mpoe into a merge with your 30btc mpex seats to form a board as one tradable asset
09:13 ThickAsThieves allowing people to sell their mpex seats
09:13 ThickAsThieves but tying dividends to those seats
09:13 ThickAsThieves instead of mpoe
09:14 ThickAsThieves you could then make a cut on the trade of bot "mpoe" and mpex seats
09:14 ThickAsThieves both*
09:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00072048 = 2.1614 BTC [+]
09:14 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 49 @ 0.0029 = 0.1421 BTC [+]
09:15 ThickAsThieves ties everything into one (i think) elegant setup
09:16 mircea_popescu because there is absolutely no relation between the two concepts ?
09:16 ThickAsThieves i'm saying to make one
09:17 ThickAsThieves i didnt fully bake the idea or anything
09:17 mircea_popescu but this isn't how it works. you don't abstractly create relations between unrelated in fact items
09:17 ThickAsThieves but i think there's a concept in there somewhere
09:17 mircea_popescu what if i went down the street, picked two women and went
09:17 mircea_popescu "hey, you two. you're now married. eat each other out!"
09:17 ThickAsThieves i'm just theorizing that their may be a way to make mpex seats tradable
09:18 ThickAsThieves not offering a total solution
09:18 ThickAsThieves just ideas
09:18 __blasty women eating each other out, I'm all ears
09:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2335 = 0.467 BTC [-]
09:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00072142 = 8.4406 BTC [+]
09:21 mjr_ the key issue, is that the "seat" is just a private key...as we know with bitcoins, how do you sell a private key?
09:21 deadweasel 'the key issue'
09:21 mjr_ no matter what, there is no way to guarantee that there isn't another copy
09:21 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223665
09:22 mircea_popescu ahahaha dude this is the best lolgold
09:29 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224057.0
09:29 mircea_popescu death and taxes out of business.
09:32 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves hey, did you mean the vobyrov dude ?
09:33 jurov yes, him
09:33 jurov it even started funny philosophical debate between me and goat
09:34 usagi If you can change your private key, then it's possible to sell your private key and the buyer can change it to his key
09:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02488 = 0.2737 BTC [+]
09:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024888 = 0.1244 BTC [+]
09:35 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves hey, did you mean the vobyrov dude ? <<< yessir
09:35 mircea_popescu a, i recall he was bitching about mpoe last summer.
09:35 mircea_popescu "how can you make a loss with those spreads !!11" and other amateruness.
09:36 ThickAsThieves you'd think if he was serious he'd make a real engine
09:36 ThickAsThieves even if i was interested in what he's selling
09:36 ThickAsThieves i don't wanna deal over a forum
09:36 ThickAsThieves nor over ripple
09:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0249 = 0.6225 BTC [+]
09:36 mircea_popescu ya well.
09:37 jurov he would sell me C130T equivalent that breaks even at 142. clearly loss is not conceivable.
09:37 mircea_popescu the end of dt is a lot more important news tbh. pretty soon the us will be cut off from btc completely.
09:37 mircea_popescu jurov clearly.
09:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.47345 BTC [-]
09:39 ThickAsThieves i think US just wants all the dataz
09:39 ThickAsThieves as long as every tx goes through ACH
09:39 ThickAsThieves or is under AML/KYC
09:39 ThickAsThieves and under a MSB
09:39 ThickAsThieves then you're fine!
09:41 mircea_popescu heh.
09:41 mircea_popescu this latest event is clear proof this ain't the case. the guy was meticulously keeping track of customers.
09:42 mircea_popescu which is why this is important : proof that no, they don't just want the data.
09:42 ThickAsThieves but he is unlicensed no?
09:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0249 = 0.0996 BTC [+]
09:42 mircea_popescu no.
09:42 ThickAsThieves and it was a state that stopped him
09:42 ThickAsThieves not the fed
09:42 mircea_popescu from what i gather (may be wrong)
09:42 mircea_popescu he got the fincen reg and was in the process of licensing
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02481 BTC [-]
09:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.474 BTC [+]
09:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4749 BTC [+]
09:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+]
09:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+]
09:47 mircea_popescu http://labs.ft.com/2013/05/a-sobering-day/
09:47 mircea_popescu pretty good read re phishing
09:51 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01822 = 0.1822 BTC [+]
09:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 87 @ 0.02489 = 2.1654 BTC [-]
09:52 Chaang-Noi talking about fastcash4bitcoins?
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.679799 BTC [+]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.6798 = 1.3596 BTC [+]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.67995 = 6.1196 BTC [+]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 26 @ 0.67999 = 17.6797 BTC [+]
09:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 45 @ 0.68 = 30.6 BTC [+]
10:01 KRS1 Great article Mircea Popescu. Thanks. I have forwarded this on to management in the corporate levels for the company I work for.
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02489 = 0.0747 BTC [-]
10:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.02489 = 0.4231 BTC [-]
10:02 Chaang-Noi lol spamming your boss?
10:02 Chaang-Noi what i your day job?
10:02 Chaang-Noi is
10:03 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-]
10:04 KRS1 Yeah I send spam but I'm often thanked for it. I'm a sysadmin 14+ yrs..I touch everything from web servers to SAN's and switches, virtualization, I.T. security.
10:04 Chaang-Noi well if you are thanked
10:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02489 BTC [-]
10:05 KRS1 only the good stuff though
10:05 Chaang-Noi having a job, with a boss, sounds like hell to me
10:05 Chaang-Noi i think id rather go to jail
10:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00072206 = 1.769 BTC [+]
10:08 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00257 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
10:08 Chaang-Noi 115 has held for longer than i expected
10:12 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.670001 BTC [-]
10:12 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [-]
10:12 jurov ;;next
10:12 gribble retracement targets: 125-127 | #bitcoin [Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:33:08 +0000] | tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/139er6E | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle | updated by OneFixt | 20 hours, 39 minutes, and 13 seconds ago
10:13 ThickAsThieves at first i though OneFixt wasn't worth following, but he's turning out to be pretty good at this
10:16 Chaang-Noi he is a smart guy with an asian gf
10:16 ThickAsThieves all boxes ticked
10:16 Chaang-Noi also one of the most mystarious people in btc land
10:16 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.016 = 0.16 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 23 @ 0.015602 = 0.3588 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.015601 = 1.5601 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01556 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0155 = 0.062 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.015005 = 1.5005 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.015 = 0.6 BTC [-]
10:22 KRS1 Chaang-Noi: you said it bro..I'd rather go to hell.. oh wait I'm already there.
10:32 mircea_popescu KRS1 fwiw i don't buy his entire "had the tab open must have acciodentally typed in" theory.
10:36 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.008766 = 0.0877 BTC [+]
10:39 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 16 @ 0.000706 = 0.0113 BTC [+]
10:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4749 BTC [-]
10:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.02481 = 1.0172 BTC [-]
10:50 deadweasel Make me sad, I loved getting checks in the mail for BTC sales.. felt so good.
10:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+]
10:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.475 BTC [+]
10:50 deadweasel If anyone can beat this it's TC
10:51 mircea_popescu realistically i don't imagine he can justify the costs of so doing.
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.66 = 5.28 BTC [-]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.687899 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.6879 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.689 = 2.756 BTC [+]
10:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02487 = 0.1492 BTC [-]
10:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00072142 = 3.3185 BTC [-]
10:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9321 @ 0.0007201 = 6.7121 BTC [-]
10:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 929 @ 0.00071963 = 0.6685 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00072206 = 4.0796 BTC [+]
10:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00072261 = 2.4569 BTC [+]
10:57 deadweasel depends on that cost, I don't think it's been discovered yet. Historically it's probably too high to pursue.
10:57 deadweasel wish we could help.
10:59 saulimus could someone with an account at coinlenders perhaps tell me what the rates are like there?
11:00 ThickAsThieves they have a page
11:00 ThickAsThieves that spells it out
11:00 saulimus hmm, I didn't find it
11:00 ThickAsThieves https://www.coinlenders.com/interest
11:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12892 @ 0.00071963 = 9.2775 BTC [-]
11:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3002 @ 0.00071866 = 2.1574 BTC [-]
11:04 saulimus I was thinking of borrowing, not depositing money to gain interest..
11:04 ThickAsThieves ah
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.024686 = 0.3209 BTC [-]
11:05 ThickAsThieves probly gives you a good idea tho
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024686 = 0.0741 BTC [-]
11:05 thestringpuller are we still talking about TC?
11:06 thestringpuller The US government is being a poopoo.
11:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.02451 = 0.3186 BTC [-]
11:07 saulimus just noticed btcjam doesn't show APR for the listings, annoying.
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.456101 BTC [-]
11:08 ericmuys_ nice, your IPO is almost finished eh TAT 8-)
11:09 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: You were right again about the magical bureaucrat yet again...
11:09 thestringpuller I can't get out of this country fast enough...
11:10 mircea_popescu saulimus afaik it is not open to borrow, it's just tradefortress' private bond.
11:11 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: do you have a list of countries that view BTC in the same way as romania. As smickles once said: "WoW money".
11:11 mircea_popescu not rly.
11:12 thestringpuller if I compose one would you help edit/publish?
11:12 mircea_popescu but as a general rule of thumb, if they don't speak english they probably don't have the english brain rot either.
11:12 mircea_popescu sounds like a difficult thing, you're not a lawyer. how'd you compose one ?
11:13 thestringpuller Good point. That's why I said "edit" perhaps you can help get more motion behind it. Maybe call it a "safe countries list".
11:14 Chaang-Noi <deadweasel> If anyone can beat this it's TC they will, its a silly charge
11:15 mircea_popescu this is niot how it works. they who are worth millions hire a consultant. those who aren't worth millions pray.
11:17 thestringpuller I was one told consultants are people you hire to steal your watch to tell you what time it is...
11:17 thestringpuller once*
11:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 2.475 = 47.025 BTC [+]
11:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.476 BTC [+]
11:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02487 BTC [+]
11:18 deadweasel Chaang-Noi, seems pretty cut and dry, they only buy BTC.... glad you think they will too.
11:19 Chaang-Noi its a silly silly charge
11:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.456103 = 17.1927 BTC [-]
11:19 thestringpuller Chaang-Noi: Is it super illegal to smoke pot in Thailand like Vietnam?
11:19 thestringpuller My friend said the pot posession in Vietnam is a capital offense.
11:19 KRS1 jeezus
11:19 thestringpuller He also said there was a white people tax.
11:20 Chaang-Noi i dont kow how it is is vietnam, however it is illegal here, the cops in some tourist areas will give you shit for smoking or having some pot
11:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.477 = 24.77 BTC [+]
11:20 deadweasel cracker tax, I like it
11:20 Chaang-Noi however in normal areas cops dont give a shit about pot, its not a harmful social drug
11:20 thestringpuller ah
11:20 Chaang-Noi they mostly go after meth and shit like that
11:20 Chaang-Noi weed is a weed here...
11:20 Chaang-Noi it grows wild
11:21 Chaang-Noi having it to cook is normal
11:21 ThickAsThieves i always thought bought would be a decent addition to any spice rack
11:21 ThickAsThieves pot
11:21 thestringpuller My friend was living in Vietnam with his then gf, and some people saw him go into her relative's house, and the police came and said, "Give us 50 dollars for having a white person in your house."
11:21 Chaang-Noi some cops give shit to some tourists in tourist areas either cuz the tourist are being cocks or cuz the cops want a bribe
11:21 ThickAsThieves not bought :/
11:21 KRS1 In a country most notable for tourism and you cant smoke out..i'll have to remember not to vacaction there, regardless of what I heard about the picturesuqe sunrises.
11:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [-]
11:22 Chaang-Noi the cops wont fuck with me here, and they dont fuck with most white people anyway, esp out side of tourst areas
11:22 deadweasel In fact, you can survive without pot for long periods of time.
11:22 deadweasel little known fact
11:23 ThickAsThieves i dont think any of us are potheads
11:23 ThickAsThieves well
11:23 Chaang-Noi i hope to smoke opium again soon
11:23 ThickAsThieves i'm probly wrong
11:23 Chaang-Noi been about 6 months
11:23 thestringpuller deadweasel: tell that to Amanda Bynes
11:23 deadweasel ;;google amanda bynes
11:23 gribble Amanda Bynes (AmandaBynes) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/AmandaBynes>; Amanda Bynes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Bynes>; Amanda Bynes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004789/>
11:24 thestringpuller she still has a twitter after all her cray cray-ness?
11:24 deadweasel it's the first time I've heard the name.
11:24 Chaang-Noi i wonder if that bitcoin foundation guy got a new twitter :)
11:24 Chaang-Noi john manotes or whateggver
11:24 deadweasel did she die from an acute lack of marihuana?
11:25 fiat500 lmao
11:25 Scrat used marijuana needles
11:26 mircea_popescu the government of President Bashar Assad took the trouble on Sunday to warn its citizens against travel to neighboring Turkey on the grounds it might not be safe there.
11:26 thestringpuller HAHAHA
11:26 mircea_popescu this rules lmao
11:26 fiat500 lmfao yeah
11:26 fiat500 quite the illusion he is living in
11:27 thestringpuller What rules about it mircea_popescu ?
11:27 Scrat http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldnhhndEXD1qd4crbo1_500.jpg
11:27 Scrat be careful kids
11:27 fiat500 mircea_popescu: i saw a video of ceaucescu's trial and execution yesterday, very poignant
11:27 usagi is that a winklevoss?
11:27 thestringpuller deadweasel: Amanda Bynes was a very successful child actress who has joined the list of child actors who go trippin'
11:27 fiat500 romania is not to be trifled with
11:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0248 = 0.0992 BTC [+]
11:28 Chaang-Noi President Bashar Assad took the trouble on Sunday after his helicopter crash?
11:28 thestringpuller window 10
11:28 thestringpuller ugh
11:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00072156 = 11.2563 BTC [+]
11:29 mircea_popescu fiat500 if you can read romanian,
11:29 mircea_popescu ;;google procesul ceausescu
11:29 gribble Transcript of the closed trial of Nicolae and Elena Ceauşescu ...: <http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Transcript_of_the_closed_trial_of_Nicolae_and_Elena_Ceau%C5%9Fescu>; Stenograma procesului Ceaușescu - Wikisource: <http://ro.wikisource.org/wiki/Stenograma_procesului_Ceau%C8%99escu>; Destinul principalilor participanţi la procesul soţilor Ceauşescu ...: (1 more message)
11:29 mircea_popescu o hey, i fell off.
11:29 mircea_popescu ;;google procesul ceausescu trilema
11:29 gribble Henry Kissinger implicat in recuperarea evreilor din Romania - Alex ...: <http://blog.alexgalmeanu.com/blog/2009/02/05/henry-kissinger-implicat-in-recuperarea-evreilor-din-romania-comunista/>
11:29 mircea_popescu uh.
11:30 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/procesul-ceausescu/
11:31 fiat500 mircea_popescu: google translate does a miserable job of translating this
11:31 mircea_popescu it would.
11:31 mircea_popescu it's an in depth discussion of the trial.
11:32 mircea_popescu the legal arguments presented, etc.
11:32 fiat500 interesting, ill try to wade through the translation
11:34 fiat500 "The problems are two: the first problem is not the law of incitement speech, the text expresses itself by committing deeds, and therefore not clear to what extent can he be held responsible Ceausescu genocide, unless he with mine His murder, damaged, subjected etc. The thing is of course open to dispute in court, Prax do not exist, so there will undoubtedly fit hot debate."
11:35 fiat500 lol
11:35 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 48 @ 0.00257 = 0.1234 BTC [-]
11:35 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.00257 = 0.018 BTC [-]
11:36 fiat500 i think i get the gist of that, but man does google have a long way to go
11:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0248 = 0.124 BTC [+]
11:36 mircea_popescu lol
11:37 mircea_popescu for the sake of lulz quote the original i'll translate properly.
11:37 fiat500 Problemele sunt doua : prima problema, ca nu se face vorbire in lege de instigare, textul glasuieste de savirsirea unor fapte, si ca atare nu-i clar in ce masura Ceausescu poate fi el tinut responsabil de genocid, afara de cazul ca el cu mina lui a omorit, vatamat, supus etc.
11:38 thestringpuller !last btctc bitvps
11:38 assbot Last trade for BITVPS on BTCTC was at 0.000839 BTC [+]
11:38 thestringpuller !ticker btctc bitvps
11:38 assbot [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: 0.00075 / 0.00075 / 0.000849 (1377 shares, 1 BTC), 7D: 0.000571 / 0.00068 / 0.001 (21471 shares, 14.5 BTC), 30D: 0.00051 / 0.00076 / 0.00172 (63192 shares, 47.9 BTC)
11:38 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.689999 BTC [+]
11:39 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [+]
11:39 fiat500 i found this pretty funny too
11:39 fiat500 "How will grab our state, created from hands, hopes and thoughts of guys hardly qualified secretarial and kitchen?"
11:40 mircea_popescu there's two problems with that. the first, that the law does not speak of instigation, it speaks of doing, and as such it's not clear how can you hold C responsible for genocide, except in the case you can show he himself killed, hurt, imposed etc.
11:42 fiat500 interesting corollary to the mubarak trial in egypt
11:42 fiat500 and of course milosovic
11:42 mircea_popescu indeed.
11:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.48 = 9.92 BTC [+]
11:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.48995 = 7.4699 BTC [+]
11:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4959 BTC [+]
11:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02487 = 0.0746 BTC [+]
11:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02487 = 0.0497 BTC [+]
11:57 fiat500 mircea_popescu: it was a show-trial basically, i dont even think they tried to hide that fact
11:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100 @ 0.00072156 = 0.0722 BTC [+]
12:02 mircea_popescu indeed.
12:02 mircea_popescu very comical one, if you understand the language and law
12:03 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-smg-the-ministry-of-games/
12:03 mircea_popescu big deal announcement.
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.02487 = 0.4725 BTC [+]
12:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.02489 = 0.3982 BTC [+]
12:07 ThickAsThieves when does it launch?
12:07 ThickAsThieves oic i think
12:09 mircea_popescu actual mpex contract later today, actual ipo closes on the 10th
12:11 topace_ game development? do you have a portfolio of games developed already?
12:12 ThickAsThieves he plays them all the time, isnt that enough?
12:12 ericmuys_ topace_: if there's anything I'm sure of, mircea_popescu created cat mario - www.youtube.com/watch?v=BksFy5qbwwM
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2233 = 0.4466 BTC [-]
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2232 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10273 @ 0.00071866 = 7.3828 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7861 @ 0.0007183 = 5.6466 BTC [-]
12:21 mircea_popescu topace_ nope.
12:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02489 BTC [+]
12:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0007183 = 3.0169 BTC [-]
12:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02489 BTC [+]
12:35 deadweasel what brought on this game dev ipo? Where can we read about the companies under this umbrella? Any games out yet?
12:38 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-]
12:40 deadweasel is there a better question I could be asking?
12:41 usagi oh cool
12:41 usagi hey deadweasel did you hear about the /print IRC command?
12:41 usagi try it, type "/print Unknown command" and it prints the message
12:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.487 = 4.974 BTC [-]
12:43 deadweasel usagi, no idea what you're talking about, totally don't care. but how is the silver biz?
12:45 usagi it was a joke :/
12:45 deadweasel i thought that for a split second, but when I didn't get it, I was sure it was just trollin ;)
12:45 usagi Well, silver has been going down in USD, but up in terms of BTC
12:45 mircea_popescu deadweasel hehe, first things first. ipo, the nwe see what btc is gathered together.
12:46 deadweasel seems backwards
12:46 mircea_popescu but anyway, bitcoin is basically game currency. that's what it's for.
12:46 usagi Right now the price of BTC is the determining factor in silver/BTC investments
12:46 usagi I am working hard at making my tu.silver issue a winner though
12:46 usagi Increasing leverage in times of silver going up, decreasing in times of silver going down
12:47 deadweasel mircea_popescu, of course, it was Magic currency first, but now it's something else. What would the utility be of the Game IPO? Where does the product come into play?
12:48 mircea_popescu step 1. some people decide on a problem to solve ; step 2. those people come up with a way to do it and calculate resouerces needed ; step 3. those people gather the needed resources.
12:48 mircea_popescu asking me about "is the problem already solved" presumes we're past step 3
12:49 deadweasel I see. I think understand the status of this IPO.
12:50 mircea_popescu as the article says, unlike all the other mpex ipos, which were sale by owner of established product, this is new biz.
12:51 peterl link to article?
12:51 deadweasel I did like the traditional IPO offering piece. That's all great stuff, I just want to fondle whatever it is that is worth investing in.
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 16 @ 0.00105001 = 0.0168 BTC [-]
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2284 @ 0.0008501 = 1.9416 BTC [-]
12:52 deadweasel but since it's new biz, that part cannot yet be fondled.
12:53 mircea_popescu peterl http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/introducing-smg-the-ministry-of-games/
12:54 mircea_popescu deadweasel the two are not distinct however. you can just wait out the ipo, see if any value arises and then buy in lateer
12:54 mircea_popescu of course it would by definition be for more per share, but nothing wrong with that in principle.
12:57 kakobrekla uh what happend here https://fastcash4bitcoins.com/
12:57 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224057.20
12:57 eyetalian hello when are the SBET earnings/dividends released?
12:57 mircea_popescu that.
12:57 mircea_popescu eyetalian http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-may-2013-statement/ announced there
12:58 kakobrekla oh yes ill be signing it shortly
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.462811 = 9.8512 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.46281 = 12.3141 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.4628 = 9.8512 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.462 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.461004 BTC [-]
13:11 deadweasel mircea_popescu, I'll watch for now, but I'm glad to see some new IPOs emerging.
13:11 deadweasel especially as price is somewhat stable.
13:11 mircea_popescu yeah.
13:16 furuknap And who will be the first to issue a PT? :-)
13:19 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 28 @ 0.006881 = 0.1927 BTC [-]
13:19 deadweasel TAT, obviously.
13:19 mircea_popescu lol
13:19 deadweasel I'm going to sell my dead grandmother in a TAT-PT
13:19 deadweasel box and all
13:20 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00688 BTC [-]
13:20 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 91 @ 0.0068 = 0.6188 BTC [-]
13:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02489 = 0.1245 BTC [+]
13:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02489 = 0.0498 BTC [+]
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.7 BTC [-]
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02465 = 0.0986 BTC [-]
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 54 @ 0.02465 = 1.3311 BTC [-]
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.0248 = 1.736 BTC [+]
13:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0248 BTC [-]
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.7 = 8.1 BTC [-]
13:37 mircea_popescu http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MusicIsPolitics
13:37 mircea_popescu for all our rapper friends :D
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4241 BTC [+]
13:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.458 BTC [-]
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02465 = 0.0986 BTC [-]
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.02465 = 0.4191 BTC [-]
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02465 BTC [-]
13:46 ThickAsThieves Did somebody say PT?
13:46 ThickAsThieves :)
13:47 furuknap Yeah, MP is putting up a new asset, and I just can bring myself to doing all that PGP stuff to trade.
13:47 deadweasel yes, I'd like to offer up DEAD.GMA shares
13:48 deadweasel I'm offering 1 billion pieces of my dead grandmother, each for .01 BTC.
13:48 mircea_popescu how's she generating revenue ?
13:48 mircea_popescu furuknap iirc you can use coinbr
13:49 furuknap MP, I know, but it would only be for this; the other assets have PTs already.
13:49 furuknap *the other assets _I trade_
13:50 ThickAsThieves maybe i'll call it TAT.MASTER
13:50 ThickAsThieves but really,
13:50 ThickAsThieves a PT would be tough
13:50 ThickAsThieves everyone wants divs
13:50 deadweasel mircea_popescu, this is a traditional IPO, we will decide revenue generators later.
13:50 deadweasel ;)
13:50 mircea_popescu hahaha i see
13:51 ThickAsThieves and i assume this asset won't see any divs for quite a while
13:51 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yearly, if at all.
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.0007183 = 5.6746 BTC [-]
13:52 deadweasel every six months her total mass is reduced, thus your shares become more valuable, as the total is reduced.
13:52 deadweasel so no divs
13:52 ThickAsThieves the amatuer mining professional wouldnt stand for that
13:52 ThickAsThieves as a PT
13:53 ThickAsThieves ammortalization
13:53 furuknap :-)
13:53 deadweasel lol
13:53 deadweasel nice
13:53 ThickAsThieves :)
13:53 ThickAsThieves amortalization*
13:53 mircea_popescu amateur professional lol. nice.
13:54 ThickAsThieves also known as "prosumers"
13:54 imsaguy <mircea_popescu> how's she generating revenue ? << ever heard the term 'find a fold and...'?
13:54 mircea_popescu i have not.
13:55 mircea_popescu what is it?
13:55 mircea_popescu i am 12.
13:55 imsaguy what is this?
13:55 mircea_popescu yes this is dog.
13:56 mircea_popescu (fwiw, the romanian expression is "you can only fuck her after you roll her in flour and find the wet spot")
13:56 deadweasel imsaguy, if you purchase enough DEAD.GMA shares you will have voting rights on which fold will be appropriated.
13:57 mircea_popescu what if it farts ?
13:57 deadweasel then you have chosen your fold poorly.
13:57 deadweasel choose again.
13:58 deadweasel she's not picky.
13:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02489 BTC [+]
13:58 deadweasel anymore
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.73 = 8.19 BTC [+]
13:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.75 BTC [+]
14:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4572 BTC [-]
14:02 imsaguy Im pretty certain that once dead, they all fart
14:02 deadweasel it's a feature
14:02 deadweasel not a defect
14:03 mircea_popescu well the only way forward is for you to present this at the upcoming "first" coinsomething conference
14:04 ThickAsThieves how many fans will she have?
14:06 deadweasel liking her on facebook requires owning DEAD.GMA-PT shares
14:07 deadweasel and the number will be in tens of twelves
14:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.024551 = 0.221 BTC [-]
14:11 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
14:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00071941 = 2.6618 BTC [+]
14:12 imsaguy deadweasel, it'd probably be easier to use tonal numbers
14:12 mircea_popescu tonal, oldest injoke in btc ?
14:13 imsaguy if by in, you mean lame, yes
14:14 jborkl I always think of deaf people talking when I read tonal bitcoin
14:14 imsaguy that's fairly accurate
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02465 = 0.074 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.02461 = 0.5168 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.024601 = 1.0086 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 83 @ 0.0246 = 2.0418 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0246 = 0.0492 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.024509 = 1.2255 BTC [-]
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 303 @ 0.02450401 = 7.4247 BTC [-]
14:20 mircea_popescu all injokes are lame to outsiders :D
14:23 deadweasel DEAF.GMA-PT will not be offered until my other, deaf grandma is in the ground. Then her Tonal IPO can be announced.
14:24 deadweasel DEAD.MA-PT and DEAD.PA-PT can be offered as needed.
14:26 jborkl I remember the first time I read about tonal , I stopped when I reached Bong-Bitcoin
14:26 jborkl :(
14:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.47999 = 24.7999 BTC [+]
14:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00071941 = 2.8417 BTC [+]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.024848 = 0.2236 BTC [+]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 72 @ 0.024848 = 1.7891 BTC [+]
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.024505 = 0.2451 BTC [+]
14:34 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.002575 = 0.0515 BTC [+]
14:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.024848 = 2.4848 BTC [+]
14:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20350 @ 0.00071648 = 14.5804 BTC [-]
14:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.0007164 = 4.4059 BTC [-]
14:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 130 @ 0.024505 = 3.1857 BTC [+]
14:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.024649 = 1.0106 BTC [+]
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 175 @ 0.02465 = 4.3138 BTC [+]
14:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.47999 BTC [+]
14:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.024848 = 1.0188 BTC [+]
14:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.47999 = 9.92 BTC [+]
14:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 90 @ 0.02489 = 2.2401 BTC [+]
14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.02451 = 1.0049 BTC [-]
14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 49 @ 0.02450401 = 1.2007 BTC [-]
14:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.02449 = 0.5633 BTC [-]
14:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.024848 = 2.4848 BTC [+]
14:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024848 = 0.0497 BTC [+]
14:48 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.289989 BTC [-]
14:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00071941 = 6.4387 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00072261 = 1.5536 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 40 @ 0.1098 = 4.392 BTC [+]
14:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.024845 = 0.0497 BTC [-]
14:56 topace_ ;;depth
14:56 gribble Error: "depth" is not a valid command.
14:56 topace_ !depth
15:02 ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats
15:02 gribble Current Blocks: 239532 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 371 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 17 hours, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15257411.5782 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.54015
15:12 fiat500 sheeeeet
15:12 fiat500 lol
15:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02484 = 0.149 BTC [-]
15:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.477 BTC [-]
15:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 56 @ 0.02484 = 1.391 BTC [-]
15:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00072261 = 1.4091 BTC [+]
15:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.02484 = 0.5465 BTC [-]
~ 23 minutes ~
15:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02484 BTC [-]
15:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2496 @ 0.00072482 = 1.8092 BTC [+]
15:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007254 = 3.1345 BTC [+]
15:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2805 @ 0.00072541 = 2.0348 BTC [+]
15:50 MJR_ hi all
15:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.469 BTC [-]
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.02488 = 0.9206 BTC [+]
15:54 deadweasel hey MJR_
15:54 deadweasel how's it going?
15:57 mircea_popescu and here it is http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MG
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007251 = 3.1332 BTC [-]
16:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.00072541 = 2.1247 BTC [+]
16:01 eyetalian very dissapointing dividend on sbet this month :(
16:03 kakobrekla beats sdice
16:03 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.109 = 0.981 BTC [-]
16:03 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.109 = 2.289 BTC [-]
16:04 eyetalian how come when a limit sell order is placed, it seems someone automatically places another just below it?
16:04 eyetalian with bbet?
16:04 eyetalian is there a bot...?
16:05 deadweasel um, sell order on bbet?
16:05 deadweasel what is the question?
16:06 eyetalian if you try to sell bbet shares
16:06 eyetalian with a limit sell
16:06 eyetalian almost instantly another sell order appears below it
16:06 mircea_popescu eyetalian i see a few at 149999 ?
16:06 eyetalian example if you try to sell for 0.19. instantly a sell of 0.1899 appears below it
16:07 mircea_popescu possibly somebody is running a bot.
16:08 eyetalian its almost always a 5000 or 10000 lot size
16:09 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1087 = 0.9783 BTC [-]
16:10 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10861 = 0.4344 BTC [-]
16:10 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1086 = 1.086 BTC [-]
16:10 eyetalian mircea_popescu: how can a bot have so many shares on offer?
16:10 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 13 @ 0.1084 = 1.4092 BTC [-]
16:10 mircea_popescu eyetalian how many you mean ? 10 k ?
16:10 mircea_popescu that's not a lot is it.
16:10 ThickAsThieves not really
16:10 ThickAsThieves what does qty matter anyway
16:10 eyetalian yes but no matter what price you put the bot comes in
16:11 ThickAsThieves maybe he owns 100,000
16:11 eyetalian it stops you from being able to exit
16:11 ThickAsThieves so put a low enough price
16:11 mircea_popescu i imagine if the price is too high it will undercut you,
16:11 eyetalian yea and take a huge loss
16:11 mircea_popescu but at some point it runs out
16:11 ThickAsThieves or trick the bot into selling into bids, if it's that exact
16:11 mircea_popescu well this is called price formation you know. the market atm is incredibly wide
16:12 eyetalian no its called someone having a huge ammount of shares and gaming the market to ensure all bids are aimed towards the certain supply
16:12 mircea_popescu 85/150 wtf is that.
16:12 eyetalian just suspiscious to me thats all
16:12 eyetalian maybe im wrong
16:12 mircea_popescu i still don't see how 10k shares is a lot
16:13 eyetalian its not 10k
16:13 mircea_popescu it's like 15btc worth or something neh ?
16:13 eyetalian almost the entire ask size is the bots shares
16:13 eyetalian ask side
16:13 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0025 = 0.0125 BTC [-]
16:13 mircea_popescu um
16:14 mircea_popescu have you read the ipo contract eyetalian ?
16:14 eyetalian well yes i know you are selling most of those
16:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.469 BTC [-]
16:14 mircea_popescu right, like 99% of the ask side is leftover from ipo
16:14 eyetalian it just seems youve set it up to make sure any new bids go straight to you
16:14 eyetalian i assume the bot is yours.
16:15 mircea_popescu nope, i've not been selling any shares.
16:15 eyetalian ok
16:15 eyetalian i dont know maybe i am mistaken
16:15 ThickAsThieves it doesnt matter tho
16:16 ThickAsThieves you need to sell for less than whomever else is selling
16:16 eyetalian you cant.
16:16 ThickAsThieves simple as that
16:16 ThickAsThieves sur eyou can
16:16 eyetalian the bot will undercut you forcing you to do a market order.
16:16 mircea_popescu well if it's a bot ir probably has a limit
16:16 eyetalian and take a huge loss, which i assume the bot sits on the bid side too
16:16 mircea_popescu 150, 140, 120, w/e it is
16:16 eyetalian with a very very low bid
16:16 ThickAsThieves try pushing the bot into the bids
16:16 ThickAsThieves .ile .0001 at a time
16:16 ThickAsThieves like*
16:17 ThickAsThieves you'll find the bottom
16:17 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000835 = 0.0017 BTC [-]
16:17 eyetalian thickasthieves: the bids are very low on purpose i assume it is the bot buying back
16:17 mircea_popescu probably halves is the fastest.
16:17 eyetalian mircea_popescu: please dont pretend you dont know about a bot.
16:17 mircea_popescu ;;calc 150+85/2
16:17 gribble 192.5
16:17 mircea_popescu i'm not pretending anything dude.
16:17 eyetalian its your exchange you are well aware whats active on it
16:18 mircea_popescu ;;calc (150+85)/2
16:18 gribble 117.5
16:18 ThickAsThieves you are confused man
16:18 ThickAsThieves even if it IS the bot
16:18 mircea_popescu i don't snoop nearly to the degree everyone assumes.
16:18 ThickAsThieves on both ends
16:18 ThickAsThieves this is still okay
16:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.024501 = 0.9065 BTC [-]
16:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 63 @ 0.0245 = 1.5435 BTC [-]
16:18 ThickAsThieves it just means no one else is buying
16:18 eyetalian the bot absorbs any new bids, diverting BTC to itself
16:18 ThickAsThieves ...
16:18 eyetalian when someone tries to buy the bot ensures its the bots supply you are buying
16:18 ThickAsThieves so?
16:19 eyetalian its just suspiscious thats all
16:19 ThickAsThieves its a bot
16:19 eyetalian so its 1 participant gaming the market
16:19 ThickAsThieves they are designed to make money
16:19 ThickAsThieves if the bot is in control,
16:19 ThickAsThieves it's because no one else is playing
16:19 mircea_popescu i very much doubt a bot makes money on s.bbet tbh.
16:19 mircea_popescu $avg s.bbet
16:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.469 = 17.283 BTC [-]
16:19 eyetalian it doesnt trading wise
16:19 mircea_popescu $t s.bbet
16:19 mircea_popescu wtf was it
16:19 eyetalian it just ensures you always get the new BTC mircea.
16:20 ThickAsThieves !t s.bbet
16:20 assbot How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
16:20 mircea_popescu $vwap s.bbet
16:20 mircea_popescu !ticker s.bbet
16:20 assbot Some are born to endless night.
16:20 kakobrekla mpexbot = gone
16:20 mircea_popescu heh mpexbot is ded ghuh ?
16:20 ThickAsThieves its my bot
16:20 mircea_popescu da fuck happened there
16:20 ThickAsThieves any questions?
16:20 mircea_popescu !ticker m s.bbet
16:20 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0008501 / 0.00098566 / 0.00149999 (2900 shares, 2.86 BTC), 7D: 0.0008501 / 0.00098566 / 0.00149999 (2900 shares, 2.86 BTC), 30D: 0.0008501 / 0.00146134 / 0.00172499 (12215 shares, 17.85 BTC)
16:20 mircea_popescu lol srsly ?
16:21 ThickAsThieves nahi hate bots
16:21 ThickAsThieves lol
16:21 ThickAsThieves but my point is
16:21 mircea_popescu smickles hey where's mpexbot!
16:21 assbot and i hate you tat
16:21 ThickAsThieves it may as well be me
16:21 ThickAsThieves hehe
16:21 mircea_popescu lol
16:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4241 = 2.1205 BTC [+]
16:22 mod6 (00:31) (!) mpexbot ~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
16:22 mircea_popescu i wonder if there actually is a bot or the guy just has a "world is satan" outlook
16:22 mod6 looks like it timed out today
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0247999 = 0.0992 BTC [+]
16:23 eyetalian mircea_popescu dont act stupid.
16:23 eyetalian you know what you are doing
16:23 mircea_popescu your definition of "acting stupid" may be a little broken.
16:23 eyetalian you are using a script to divert any BTC bids to yourself.
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.02489 = 1.9912 BTC [+]
16:24 mircea_popescu sigh.
16:24 eyetalian being the IPO issuer.
16:24 ThickAsThieves i still dont understand the problem
16:24 ThickAsThieves even if it was mp
16:24 mircea_popescu i'm the half issuer who people praise, as per traditiob
16:24 ThickAsThieves or me
16:24 mircea_popescu it's kakobrekla who people cuss out. please stick to it.
16:24 ThickAsThieves superservant and super scapegoat
16:24 ThickAsThieves so many hats
16:24 eyetalian thickasthieves: what hes doing is being dishonest about a market functioning.
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
16:25 ThickAsThieves he's providing liquidity
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 25 @ 0.105 = 2.625 BTC [-]
16:25 ThickAsThieves :)
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1035 = 0.5175 BTC [-]
16:25 eyetalian thickasthieves: he only places limit sell orders when someone else is selling.
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.102001 = 2.142 BTC [-]
16:25 eyetalian they arent tehre any other time
16:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 100 @ 0.102 = 10.2 BTC [-]
16:25 ThickAsThieves but there must still be a top
16:25 ThickAsThieves and a bottom
16:25 eyetalian its always his ask you are hitting.
16:25 eyetalian yep
16:25 ThickAsThieves for the market price
16:25 mircea_popescu what insanity is this. there's always someone selling wtf.
16:25 ThickAsThieves that the bot is willing to play
16:25 mircea_popescu the world doesn't start and end when you move.
16:26 ThickAsThieves all you need to do is find that price
16:26 eyetalian mircea_popescu: the sell orders arent present until someone places them
16:26 ThickAsThieves then you have reached your "reality"
16:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.024897 = 0.4979 BTC [+]
16:26 eyetalian ie someon puts a limit 0.19 the bot instantly puts a 0.189
16:26 eyetalian but the bot was not active earlier
16:26 ThickAsThieves this is true for all sell orders , no?
16:26 eyetalian it only ensures bids are diverted
16:26 ThickAsThieves nothing exists til it exists
16:26 eyetalian um
16:27 kakobrekla i admint, this is preety funny.
16:27 kakobrekla admit
16:27 mircea_popescu im sorry, i don't see much more than "how dare other people offer what i'm trying to sell for less than i want for it".
16:27 eyetalian thats not whats happening
16:27 eyetalian if the script is selling for 0.20
16:27 eyetalian and you come in 0.19
16:27 eyetalian it instantly puts 0.189
16:27 ThickAsThieves whats the lowest amount you'll sell your BBET for?
16:27 mircea_popescu ok, and if you come in at 0.15 ?
16:27 eyetalian becuase it has such massive supply available the entire premise is to divert bids
16:27 FabianB eyetalian: did you buy too high and now you want out doing a lower valuation than before?
16:27 kakobrekla eyetalian the way i see it someone wants to do exactly the same thing you want to do but they have a bot and you dont, so you are pissed.
16:27 ThickAsThieves i'll adjust the bt for you
16:27 eyetalian to the 1 buyer
16:27 eyetalian mircea: it will adjust again.
16:28 eyetalian kako: the supply the bot has is so high it has to be the owners doing it
16:28 kakobrekla that is just false
16:29 mircea_popescu well iirc the numbers, about 1mn or so shares sold.
16:29 mircea_popescu during the ipo
16:29 eyetalian what price were bbet shares initially offered
16:29 ThickAsThieves even if the bot owns ALL the shares taht you dont' it's still fair
16:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7416 @ 0.00072541 = 5.3796 BTC [+]
16:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1984 @ 0.00072545 = 1.4393 BTC [+]
16:29 kakobrekla wasnt it 1.5mn?
16:29 mircea_popescu substract from that w/e you're holding and that's the presumptive's bot max supply.
16:29 mircea_popescu something like that.
16:29 mircea_popescu eyetalian 0.00001 BTC each.
16:29 mircea_popescu it's in the contract.
16:30 eyetalian but all of them went to you.
16:30 ThickAsThieves WTB S.BBET 0.00085011
16:31 kakobrekla eyetalian the shares went to ipo investors not us
16:31 ThickAsThieves eyetalian, what price do you think IS fair?
16:31 mircea_popescu no they didn't go to me lol.
16:32 ThickAsThieves i already told you, it's my bot, and I own all the shares
16:32 ThickAsThieves what do you need from me?
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.0007251 = 12.0367 BTC [-]
16:34 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.0031 = 0.186 BTC [+]
16:35 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.000706 = 0.0028 BTC [+]
16:36 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.0025 = 0.005 BTC [-]
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000707 = 0.0064 BTC [+]
16:37 ThickAsThieves I just got a pm from someone asking for a $68,000 loan
16:37 mircea_popescu sharpie in pooper ?
16:38 ThickAsThieves they wanna buy mining equipment
16:38 ThickAsThieves and let me hold AM as collateral
16:38 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 16 @ 0.00243 = 0.0389 BTC [-]
16:38 ThickAsThieves uhhhhh where do I sign!
16:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.477 BTC [+]
16:39 ThickAsThieves I guess I have earned the "will do anything for AM shares" reputation.
16:41 topace_ hehe
16:41 mircea_popescu i suppose in principle it could be said anyone on mpex is running a bot
16:41 topace_ way to go
16:41 mircea_popescu inasmuch as well... most everyone uses the pympex script or some equiv
16:41 eyetalian no only you
16:41 mircea_popescu a bot is what, two lines of code away
16:42 eyetalian there arent enough participants to have that supply
16:42 ThickAsThieves i think you just think BBET is worth more than it really is
16:42 mircea_popescu eyetalian are you of the "disregard everything because i know better" school ?
16:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.024889 BTC [-]
16:42 ThickAsThieves maybe you overpaid?
16:42 mircea_popescu [BitFunder] Kenilworth Exploration - Real World Mining Opertunity with Bitcoins
16:43 ThickAsThieves ...
16:43 mircea_popescu heh.
16:43 eyetalian you will always overpay until the bot has unloaded all of its shares(millions)
16:43 ThickAsThieves overpaying is relative
16:43 eyetalian thats the whole point.
16:43 eyetalian gobble up as many BTC as possible
16:43 ThickAsThieves why buy somehting for more than it's worth?
16:43 ThickAsThieves here's your solution
16:44 ThickAsThieves have DeadTerra move your shares to a PT
16:44 ThickAsThieves no bots!
16:44 eyetalian they are still linked to mpex
16:44 ThickAsThieves ?
16:44 ThickAsThieves its an mpex stock
16:45 eyetalian yes
16:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.02488 = 0.4976 BTC [-]
16:45 ThickAsThieves yes
16:45 ThickAsThieves but the problem is the bot
16:45 ThickAsThieves not mpex
16:45 eyetalian i think thats why nobody wants to list assets on mpex, just too much shady activity in the background imo
16:45 ThickAsThieves so move your shares to a PT
16:45 ThickAsThieves where there are no bots
16:45 ThickAsThieves and sell there
16:45 mircea_popescu i gather the problem are other people, generally.
16:45 eyetalian the PT still reflects mpex prices duh.
16:46 ThickAsThieves bit you wont get bots undercutting you
16:46 mircea_popescu eyetalian everyone WANTS to. mostly nobody is allowed to.
16:46 FabianB eyetalian: why did you buy in the first place?
16:46 mircea_popescu huge difference there.
16:46 ThickAsThieves you can place your asks in peace
16:46 ThickAsThieves theoritically...
16:46 eyetalian mircea: as far as most are concerned havelock is the exchange dealing in the AAA assets
16:46 ThickAsThieves theoretically*
16:47 ThickAsThieves oh geez
16:47 mircea_popescu lmao ok.
16:47 mircea_popescu topace_ you put the noob up to it or is he just trollin' ?
16:49 ThickAsThieves I'm gonna start a space exploration asset
16:50 ThickAsThieves trying to raise 100,000btc
16:50 mircea_popescu looking for anything in particular ?
16:50 ThickAsThieves intelligent life
16:50 ThickAsThieves badoom!
16:52 ThickAsThieves maybe i'll mine in space too
16:52 ThickAsThieves like those rich guys
16:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.477 = 4.954 BTC [+]
16:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024896 = 0.1245 BTC [-]
16:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.024897 = 1.9918 BTC [+]
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.024897 = 0.3735 BTC [+]
16:56 mircea_popescu oookay
16:57 mircea_popescu theres actually bids of s.mg nao o.o
16:57 ThickAsThieves no listing on coinbr yet
16:57 mircea_popescu i think jurov has to hand approve
16:58 ThickAsThieves those aren't real bids, just a bot
16:58 mircea_popescu also bitcoins are fake internet money used by people from tirol.
17:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.7705 BTC [+]
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.024889 BTC [+]
17:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2337 @ 0.00072545 = 1.6954 BTC [+]
17:12 fiat500 20:52 < ThickAsThieves> maybe i'll mine in space too
17:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9963 @ 0.00072546 = 7.2278 BTC [+]
17:12 fiat500 ASICs in space dont need cooling
17:12 ThickAsThieves is that true?!
17:12 fiat500 and can run off solar power unfettered by atmosphere
17:12 ThickAsThieves i have a bitcoin boner
17:12 fiat500 i think you're onto something here
17:14 mircea_popescu of course tghey need cooling
17:14 mircea_popescu vacuum is an insulator. asics in space go boom
17:14 fiat500 then how do you explain the sun?!!!!!
17:14 fiat500 brb panic buying
17:15 mircea_popescu you need to get off the forum
17:15 mircea_popescu it's not agreeing with you :D
17:15 fiat500 lmao
17:15 fiat500 actually getting ready for a flight, and stupid airline app wont let me check in >_>
17:16 mircea_popescu tell the attendant "it's flight or fight, bitch!"
17:16 Scrat indeed
17:16 Scrat soviets tried nuclear reactors in space
17:16 Scrat didn't work well
17:16 mircea_popescu Scrat is that how you explain the sun ?
17:16 Scrat can't expel heat fast enough
17:17 kakobrekla "it's flight, fight or ass, bitch!"
17:17 Scrat fission vs fusion derp
17:17 mircea_popescu you didn't say FISSION NUCLEAR REAKTORS
17:17 ThickAsThieves nuklear*
17:18 Scrat americans spell it nukular
17:18 ThickAsThieves correct
17:18 Scrat at least jack bauer does
17:18 ThickAsThieves or nookula, if you are from boston
17:19 jborkl a bunch of satellites are nuclear powered
17:19 jborkl just not reactors
17:19 mircea_popescu jborkl not quite. they're just decay-lighted so to speak
17:19 mircea_popescu yeah
17:19 Scrat RTG's
17:19 deadweasel noocleah in maine
17:19 deadweasel i don't even want to know canadian
17:20 ThickAsThieves NOOKula, eh
17:20 mircea_popescu by the way... do you know about the russian doods who found some soviet era beacons in siberia
17:20 mircea_popescu and stripped them to warm themselves overnight ?
17:20 deadweasel that is not healthy.
17:20 Scrat mircea_popescu: then oh shit why do I have 3 testicles
17:21 ThickAsThieves more firepower
17:21 deadweasel more like oh shit, i shit myself.
17:21 mircea_popescu "hey there, nice tan"
17:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.024889 = 0.1991 BTC [+]
17:26 fiat500 LOL
17:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.466 = 7.398 BTC [-]
17:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3622 @ 0.0007251 = 2.6263 BTC [-]
17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.024889 = 0.448 BTC [+]
17:38 mod6 ;;ticker
17:38 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.67663, Best ask: 121.67665, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 121.67665, 24 hour volume: 28543.16748503, 24 hour low: 115.11100, 24 hour high: 122.78483, 24 hour vwap: 118.93708
17:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.478 BTC [+]
17:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.478 = 9.912 BTC [+]
17:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.48599 = 14.9159 BTC [+]
17:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.317489 BTC [+]
17:47 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0031 = 0.0248 BTC [+]
17:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.024889 = 0.224 BTC [+]
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0248895 = 0.2489 BTC [+]
17:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02485 = 0.497 BTC [-]
17:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02485 = 0.1243 BTC [-]
17:57 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 54 @ 0.0031 = 0.1674 BTC [+]
17:57 jurov hi all. S.MG? nice! will be added to coinbr in a moment.
17:58 jurov obv MPEx doesn't have an api for that
17:58 mircea_popescu safer that way.
17:59 jurov and thestringpuller: i got a consultant, will let you know if slovakia can be added to your list.
18:00 jurov so far we have romania slovenia and somalia?
18:01 mircea_popescu ha, prague is under water it seems
18:02 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
18:02 jurov yea. vienna, bratislava and budapest maybe soon.
18:02 jurov (no worry, i live 100m above danube level)
18:04 mircea_popescu this global warming...
18:04 mircea_popescu my magnolias think autumn is here.
18:04 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.688989 BTC [-]
18:06 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 69 @ 0.000799 = 0.0551 BTC [-]
18:09 eyetalian hi guys
18:09 eyetalian what is minigame doing?
18:10 eyetalian gambling income
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.28999 BTC [+]
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.48599 = 4.972 BTC [+]
18:15 jurov added to coinbr
18:17 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 113 @ 0.000726 = 0.082 BTC [-]
18:17 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 275 @ 0.000725 = 0.1994 BTC [-]
18:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02485 BTC [-]
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02488949 = 1.2445 BTC [-]
18:26 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 46 @ 0.0031 = 0.1426 BTC [+]
18:26 kakobrekla speaking of somalia http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/agr_agr_mac_tra_percap-agricultural-machinery-tractors-per-capita
18:27 kakobrekla jurov what list
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02479 = 0.124 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.02466 = 0.9371 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02465 = 0.074 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072223 = 3.1208 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6829 @ 0.00072215 = 4.9316 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02451 = 0.049 BTC [-]
18:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.024351 = 0.1705 BTC [-]
18:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.486 BTC [+]
18:29 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109498 BTC [+]
18:34 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/since-what-you-do-all-day-is-jack-off-anyway/
18:35 mircea_popescu if anyone here watches porn, there's 1 btc to be made.
18:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.0247 = 0.4446 BTC [+]
18:35 mircea_popescu witha little luck.
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072418 = 3.1292 BTC [+]
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00072419 = 10.6456 BTC [+]
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5878 @ 0.00072508 = 4.262 BTC [+]
18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 701 @ 0.00072546 = 0.5085 BTC [+]
18:47 KRS-1 I love to watch porn
18:58 jurov kakobrekla, deadweasel was asking mp for list of bitcoin-safe countries
18:58 jurov presumably to move to
18:58 deadweasel that was TAT
18:58 deadweasel or someone
18:58 jurov oh sry, no it was thestringpuller
18:59 deadweasel although I'd read it.
18:59 jurov in logs some 6 hrs ago
19:01 jurov oh and eyetalian, i do have a bot, too. but it's not on bbet and it's much more polite.
19:01 eyetalian what do you mean bitcoin safe countries?
19:01 jurov in the sense US is bitcoin-unsafe
19:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.485999 BTC [-]
19:02 mircea_popescu countries which are ruled by laws and respect for individual rights
19:02 mircea_popescu rather than corporate interest and bureaucratic autarchy
19:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 400 @ 0.02488949 = 9.9558 BTC [-]
19:02 eyetalian i thought US was only unsafe for exchangers
19:03 jurov well, LR was not an exchanger
19:03 jurov for example. and it was not even located in US.
19:03 eyetalian LR was stealing funds though from accounts
19:04 eyetalian their were more LR balances then dollars backing them
19:04 jurov oh, so US sacked them because of *that*?
19:04 eyetalian well they sacked them for that money laundering bs
19:04 eyetalian but im glad LR went down they stole millions
19:04 mircea_popescu sauce ?
19:05 eyetalian LR wasn't *just* a paypal for crooks
19:05 eyetalian they were actively freezing high dollar accounts
19:05 eyetalian for years
19:06 mircea_popescu In May 2013, Liberty Reserve was shut down by United States federal prosecutors under the Patriot Act
19:06 mircea_popescu funny what that thing is used for.
19:06 eyetalian LR had warnings since 2011.
19:06 eyetalian and the owners were thieves
19:07 eyetalian if US based exchanges comply with US rules theres nothing the government will do to them
19:08 jurov so, prolly they stole some HSBC stash and fell into disgrace for US power structures, you say?
19:08 jurov nice conspiration
19:08 eyetalian the owners had a history with US law enforcement
19:08 mircea_popescu lolwut
19:08 eyetalian you play with fire you get burnt imo
19:08 eyetalian if you deal in US dollars you subject yourself to US government
19:09 eyetalian simple as that.
19:09 eyetalian dont like their rules dont use their money
19:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.486 BTC [+]
19:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0247 = 0.1976 BTC [+]
19:11 mircea_popescu this is not how it works.
19:11 eyetalian sure it does
19:11 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0991 = 0.1982 BTC [-]
19:11 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @ 0.099 = 1.98 BTC [-]
19:11 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.099 = 0.99 BTC [-]
19:11 eyetalian if you stay away from US government related stuff they stay away from you
19:12 mircea_popescu ...
19:12 eyetalian mtgox same thing. they did not have proper accounts setup
19:12 mircea_popescu da fuck is this, bullying 101 ?
19:12 eyetalian no its the real world
19:13 eyetalian US gov is like an organized crime gang
19:13 eyetalian if you stay away from them they are harmless
19:14 jurov tell that to gitmo detainees
19:15 eyetalian lol you believe they are just randoms?|
19:15 mircea_popescu how did the discussion become a matter of what he believes ?
19:15 mircea_popescu do you have complete and indisputable proof they aren't ?
19:15 eyetalian the US is only 5% of the worlds population, there are plenty of alternatives
19:16 eyetalian if you stay away from US gov they stay away from you simple as that
19:16 mircea_popescu suppose they stay away from me, i stay away friom them, simple as that.
19:16 mircea_popescu in any game of bullying i shall be doing the beating.
19:16 jurov it doesn't matter if they are randoms. they have a right to trial, usg denies it
19:16 eyetalian sure
19:17 furuknap And then I told him, "you can't put that there!" and then just walked away. It was hillarious.
19:17 mircea_popescu huh ?
19:17 jurov furuknap, wrong tab?
19:18 orkaa <eyetalian> if you stay away from US gov they stay away from you simple as that
19:18 orkaa lol
19:18 eyetalian the US government is like a chained up dog, harmless as long as you stay away.
19:18 furuknap Just messing with you guys...
19:18 orkaa unless you're in need of some freedom
19:18 furuknap I was offline and typing to myself, not noticing I was gone...
19:18 eyetalian orkaa ?
19:18 jurov yes, chained up dog with drone remote
19:18 eyetalian dont give them a reason to target you
19:19 orkaa lol, lol
19:19 mircea_popescu anyway, i think i've had enough of this nonsense. bye eyeguy.
19:19 jurov how do i know what is the reason?
19:19 jurov i may be money laundering in usg eyes right now
19:19 eyetalian jurov: so far you have given 2 examples both who were actively fucking around with US authorities despite warnings
19:19 eyetalian LibertyReserve which was active in defrauding people and transfering $ around
19:20 eyetalian and gitmo people who were in combat with US people
19:20 orkaa eyetalian, so girls shouldn't wear short skirts 'cause they give guys a reason to rape them
19:20 orkaa that's what you're saying
19:20 eyetalian please show me examples of people who are targetted by US government
19:20 eyetalian that dont do anything involving them
19:20 jurov eyetalian: do your own research about gitmo. there were journalists, Uk citizens, you name it.
19:20 eyetalian bitinstant is fully in business and compliant with US laws
19:21 eyetalian and they are allowed to operate
19:21 orkaa http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/us_military_bases_surrounding_iran_jpg-2.jpg
19:21 mircea_popescu for that matter, they kidnapped the ex head of the imf under manufactured charges
19:21 orkaa this picture says everything abou eyetalian's flawless logic
19:21 mircea_popescu which they knew were manufactured.
19:22 mircea_popescu they tried the same with the assange guy
19:22 mircea_popescu the list is endless.
19:22 eyetalian again show me innocent randoms please
19:22 orkaa basically everyone there.
19:22 orkaa no one had a trial
19:23 furuknap <mircea_popescu> if anyone here watches porn, there's 1 btc to be made. >"If anyone here watches porn" he says... *tsk*
19:23 eyetalian the truth is if you are involved in a US jurisdiction and play by their rules you are fine
19:23 eyetalian if you dont like their rules. stay away from them
19:23 eyetalian simple as that
19:23 eyetalian the world isnt america
19:24 mircea_popescu lol
19:24 orkaa eyetalian, where are you from?
19:24 eyetalian canada
19:24 furuknap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs
19:24 jurov oh i thought fox news
19:25 jurov *he's from fox news
19:25 orkaa yeah me too
19:25 eyetalian i dont like the US gov
19:25 eyetalian but i live in the real world
19:25 jurov actually fox news doesn't, too. afaik
19:25 eyetalian theres nothing i can do about their power
19:25 eyetalian best to avoid it
19:26 kakobrekla ok jurov cool
19:26 kakobrekla i can do somalia 101
19:26 kakobrekla for 10 btc
19:30 jurov oh eyetalian: you do know they said practically whole internet is under US jurisdiction?
19:30 jurov at least .com domains are
19:30 jurov now do tell me how "best to avoid it"
19:31 eyetalian dont use .com
19:31 jurov lol. they can extend to other TLDs any day
19:31 eyetalian not really
19:31 jurov how not? ICANN is in US.
19:31 eyetalian you have to remember americans are of germanic descent, they tend to do everything systematically
19:32 eyetalian with procedures and rules
19:32 eyetalian making stuff up as they go along doesnt fit their traits
19:32 jurov lol this gets better
19:32 eyetalian hence their obsessiveness with laws and procedures
19:33 jurov so what was the procedure to discover WMDs in iraq?
19:33 jurov do explain me pls
19:33 eyetalian i dont know anything about that subject
19:33 eyetalian all youve named so far are regions and people who have fucked around with US gov.
19:33 eyetalian ive asked for an example of someone who hasnt thats been "targetted"
19:34 eyetalian the thing about the US gov too, you recieve plenty of warnings before they act
19:34 eyetalian like LR people recieved warnings since 2011 about the site specifically
19:34 eyetalian and they had a arrest record in the US
19:35 eyetalian sadaam had like a 2 year warning window before 2003.
19:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8136 @ 0.00072546 = 5.9023 BTC [+]
19:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6264 @ 0.00072645 = 4.5505 BTC [+]
19:36 eyetalian taliban people had 4months.
19:37 orkaa http://also.kottke.org/misc/images/nick-ut-vietnam.jpg
19:38 orkaa these kids had at least 10 seconds warning..
19:38 eyetalian orkaa we arent talking about war.
19:38 eyetalian something europeans are professionals at
19:38 eyetalian interms of kill count in the last 100 years
19:38 orkaa yeah but it's kinda the same thing
19:38 orkaa if you do some nasty stuff and then call it 'war'
19:38 mircea_popescu nice child porn.
19:38 orkaa it doesn't change anything
19:39 eyetalian US is a bitcoin friendly country
19:39 eyetalian there are plenty of places to spend BTC in NY and California
19:39 jurov .. as long as you don't try to exchange bitcoins. ic.
19:39 eyetalian well for exchanging dollars you have to comply with the same rules everyone else does
19:40 jurov if they have such nice rigid rules, then why so high incarceration?
19:40 eyetalian and anyone putting in a little effort can easily evade most ID requirements
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.8 BTC [+]
19:40 eyetalian the high US incarceration is mostly drug gang stuff
19:40 eyetalian which i agree is stupid
19:41 eyetalian theres nothing illegal about exchanging bitcoins for cash on a person to person basis
19:41 eyetalian its simply rules governing major exchange operations
19:42 orkaa btw, what's the primary topic we're arguing about?
19:42 eyetalian he was saying US is not a bitcoin friendly country
19:42 eyetalian even though NY and California have a high ammount of business's that accept it
19:43 eyetalian his rational was because bitcoin exchanges should be allowed not to comply with any rules dealing with money
19:44 eyetalian the biggest hurdle in the US is that you need 50 different state licenses to operate
19:44 eyetalian the bitcoin exchanges simply had barely any startup capital to fund proper licensing which costs about 5-10million to obtain for the entire US
19:45 jurov hence, bitcoin unfriendly
19:45 eyetalian no its unfriendly to basement business's
19:46 eyetalian a well capitalized exchanger in the US should have no issues
19:46 eyetalian since bitcoin left infancy only this year, it was hard to attract that level of funding
19:47 orkaa eyetalian, but that's like saying that the US health system is very friendly …. it's just that most people have a money problem
19:47 jurov actually there's coinlab and others, and there *are* serious problems
19:48 KRS-1 kakobrekla: Somalia is NOT the same as Serbia, just sayin.
19:48 kakobrekla now you are learning.
19:48 eyetalian orkaa i agree. the laws are mostly designed to keep small players out
19:48 KRS-1 =D
19:48 eyetalian jurov: coinlab was never an exchanger.
19:49 jurov so which one had the deal with silicon valley bank?
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.02488949 = 0.2987 BTC [-]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.0248895 = 0.448 BTC [+]
19:49 eyetalian nobody was willing to put serious capital up for bitcoin related until 2013
19:49 eyetalian jurov: coinlab opened up a corporate account at a bank, thats all they did
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.233 = 0.466 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 47 @ 0.2331 = 10.9557 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2335 = 1.1675 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2335 = 1.1675 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.2335 = 2.335 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2336 = 1.168 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.2337 = 5.3751 BTC [+]
19:49 jurov if not even a bank dares to go in, what friendiless is that?
19:49 jurov *frinedliness
19:50 eyetalian jurov: there are plenty of banks who are fine with it as long as you are properly complying
19:50 mircea_popescu even somalia too cool for slovenia now ?!
19:50 eyetalian just nobody was willing to put the millions into compliance in the past
19:50 eyetalian because bitcoin wasnt worth it
19:50 jurov no one knows how to comply properly
19:50 eyetalian now it is
19:50 eyetalian jurov if that were true you wouldnt be able to exchange foreign currencies in america
19:50 kakobrekla btw jurov, its not 'bitcoin friendly' its 'too stupid to acknowledge'
19:51 eyetalian the compliance is simple you need to be registred as a MSB business + AML
19:51 eyetalian the license costs were too high for most broke bitcoiners in the past.
19:51 eyetalian now that its become more economical people are obtaining them
19:51 eyetalian infact you have a very high chance of being shut down in the european union imo
19:52 eyetalian if you operate an exchanger
19:52 eyetalian without licenses
19:52 eyetalian so its not just a US thing.
19:52 jurov we are not discussing that, only you insist on painting me as wanting to operate without licenses
19:52 eyetalian no you said the US isnt bitcoin friendly
19:53 eyetalian and i pointed out US areas have high ammounts of bitcoin business's
19:53 jurov we are discussing *how* easy is to have all these licenses in order
19:53 kakobrekla the US isnt anything friendly
19:53 eyetalian also bitpay is american
19:53 jurov uneasy = not friendly country. that's all
19:53 eyetalian its very easy to get the licenses IF you have the capital which is 5-10 million
19:53 eyetalian nobody was willing to risk that on bitcoin in the past.
19:53 jurov i know. it's late here, good night.
19:53 eyetalian now they are
19:54 eyetalian in 2010 2011 you would never earn enough revenues to cover the costs
19:54 eyetalian nor 2012
19:56 jurov hence, not friendly.
19:56 mircea_popescu http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/06/17/the-clock-is-ticking-on-bitcoin/
19:56 mircea_popescu let us revisit the good old days.
19:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3633 @ 0.00072477 = 2.6331 BTC [-]
20:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00072659 = 10.4629 BTC [+]
20:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00072683 = 2.0715 BTC [+]
20:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0248895 = 0.0498 BTC [+]
20:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00072844 = 6.1553 BTC [+]
20:00 KRS-1 I remember reading that
20:00 KRS-1 who knew what this would turn into
20:02 mircea_popescu indeed.
20:03 mircea_popescu see you in june 2015
20:05 KRS-1 heh i shall have to remember this moment actually..i've sobered up a bit.
20:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02489 = 0.1245 BTC [+]
20:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02479 = 0.2479 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 198 @ 0.0248895 = 4.9281 BTC [-]
20:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 21 @ 0.0248895 = 0.5227 BTC [-]
20:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02479 = 0.0992 BTC [+]
20:39 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224745.0
20:39 mircea_popescu ok that's juicy.
20:49 kakobrekla omg
20:49 kakobrekla tpb now accepts ltc donations
20:49 kakobrekla whores.
20:50 kakobrekla ill send them a few new vagcoins.
20:53 mircea_popescu lol
20:53 mircea_popescu perobably nobody was paying in btc
20:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00072844 = 5.2083 BTC [+]
20:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00072853 = 3.7884 BTC [+]
21:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.02479 = 0.3719 BTC [+]
21:10 kakobrekla 3. Besides that is required an audit for the entire bitfinex platform,
21:10 kakobrekla the platform tempered/adjusted twice, first with mister Tang and was
21:10 kakobrekla credited from him 150.000 USD, that he didn't deposit in his account,
21:10 kakobrekla the second time when mister Devasini was credited one million dollars,
21:10 kakobrekla money that he didn't have deposited in his account. Because of this I
21:10 kakobrekla cannot be sure if the current losses are real or not.
21:10 kakobrekla O_O
21:12 mircea_popescu i tell you it's good.
21:15 Namworld What, so what's happening over here?
21:15 mircea_popescu scammer tag truck
21:15 Namworld oh, Bitfinex I see.
21:16 Namworld I think I have 25$ in there. They can have it.
21:18 Neil Wow, 1 hr since a block was found.
21:18 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
21:19 gribble Time since last block: 58 minutes and 53 seconds
21:19 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.000799 BTC [+]
21:19 mod6 dang
21:19 mircea_popescu since the spring fork i can't see 1 hr blocks w/o thinking omfg don't tell me, again ?!
21:20 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.008568 BTC [+]
21:21 Neil Funny how every time I send or receive BTC, confirmation time skyrockets
21:21 ThickAsThieves blockchain.info keeps crying wolf tho
21:22 ThickAsThieves so now i dont know what to think
21:22 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you mean ?
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 600 @ 0.0248895 = 14.9337 BTC [-]
21:22 mircea_popescu Neil just because you're paranoid dones't mean the network isn't out to get you.
21:22 ThickAsThieves they have been hanging behind several times lately
21:23 ThickAsThieves you need to verify with another source
21:24 mod6 ;;tslb
21:24 gribble Time since last block: 1 minute and 46 seconds
21:24 mircea_popescu yup i see it.
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2337 = 1.1685 BTC [+]
21:36 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.28999 = 1.45 BTC [+]
21:41 furuknap ;;tslb
21:41 gribble Time since last block: 1 minute and 29 seconds
21:42 furuknap ;;bc,stats
21:42 gribble Current Blocks: 239583 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 320 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 13 hours, 49 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15263342.1331 | Estimated Percent Change: 25.58895
21:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02478 = 0.0496 BTC [-]
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 26 @ 0.02478 = 0.6443 BTC [-]
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02478 = 0.0991 BTC [-]
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.486 = 4.972 BTC [+]
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.49799 BTC [+]
21:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02479 BTC [+]
22:05 Diablo-D3 whats the division for TAT? 100?
22:05 Namworld Yeah
22:05 Diablo-D3 so ~2.48 would be a good AM value?
22:05 Diablo-D3 er, valuation
22:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.02479 = 0.5702 BTC [+]
22:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0248895 = 0.2489 BTC [-]
22:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2345 BTC [+]
22:11 thestringpuller ;;seen mod6
22:11 gribble mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 47 minutes and 27 seconds ago: <mod6> ;;tslb
22:11 thestringpuller mod6 works too much
22:12 thestringpuller needs more bots
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4366 BTC [+]
22:14 furuknap value != price.
22:15 thestringpuller So I had a dream about a movie or a story or something. I dunno, but it starred Leo or Matt Damon or some other white fucker who likes to act "deep". ANYHOW lemme know if this sounds familiar:
22:16 thestringpuller It's about this guy who discovers time travel somehow, he's given some magic words or something by a gypsy like figure, and he's allowed to bring one person with him or something. Anyhow he gets this info as his relationship with his current girlfriend/wife is deteriorating. So he goes back into time back into the 60's or so to the university where they met to try and alter the timeline. Anyhow he does this and r
22:16 thestringpuller wow putty :(
22:21 ll sounds like somehting i just saw an ad for
22:22 thestringpuller Probably
22:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02479 = 0.124 BTC [+]
22:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02475 = 0.1238 BTC [-]
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02450042 = 0.1225 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00180011 = 0.9001 BTC [+]
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 31 @ 0.0018001 = 0.0558 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00180009 = 2.7001 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180008 = 1.8001 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00180007 = 1.8001 BTC [-]
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 15969 @ 0.00180006 = 28.7452 BTC [-]
22:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.0248895 = 0.6222 BTC [+]
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02450042 = 0.1225 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02479 = 0.1487 BTC [+]
22:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 72 @ 0.02450042 = 1.764 BTC [-]
22:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 123 @ 0.02450042 = 3.0136 BTC [-]
22:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.02478 = 0.1735 BTC [-]
22:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.02479 = 0.1735 BTC [+]
23:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.02478 = 0.7434 BTC [-]
23:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0245 = 0.1715 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02449 = 0.098 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.02439 = 0.8049 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02438 = 0.1219 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.024375 = 0.5119 BTC [-]
23:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02479 = 0.1487 BTC [+]
23:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 2.8 = 11.2 BTC [+]
23:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.85 = 14.25 BTC [+]
23:20 Neil Bitbet needs more bets. I have to feed by gambling addiciton somehow.
23:20 kakobrekla you can propose new ones
23:20 kakobrekla and earn some btc in while
23:21 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 8 @ 0.00079 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
23:26 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 4 @ 0.000799 = 0.0032 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.02489 = 0.1991 BTC [+]
23:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.02451 = 0.1716 BTC [-]
23:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.9 BTC [+]
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