Hide Idle (>14 d.) Chans
← 2013-05-28 | 2013-05-30 → ↓
00:04 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 100 @ 0.198 = 19.8 BTC [-]
00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 208 @ 0.0252 = 5.2416 BTC [+]
00:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02537 BTC [-]
00:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02535 = 0.2282 BTC [-]
00:15 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.008032 = 0.0321 BTC [-]
00:15 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 27 @ 0.007067 = 0.1908 BTC [-]
00:15 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.007066 BTC [-]
00:16 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.007 = 0.07 BTC [-]
00:16 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [-]
00:16 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005671 BTC [-]
00:16 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005055 BTC [-]
00:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02534 BTC [-]
00:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00074316 = 2.9726 BTC [-]
00:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9406 @ 0.00074283 = 6.9871 BTC [-]
00:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
00:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.565 BTC [-]
00:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.565 = 10.26 BTC [-]
00:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.02482 = 0.695 BTC [-]
00:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.024811 = 0.4962 BTC [-]
00:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.0248 = 0.992 BTC [-]
00:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
00:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0247 BTC [-]
00:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025319 = 0.1266 BTC [+]
00:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.025318 = 0.2532 BTC [-]
00:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.025318 = 0.9368 BTC [-]
01:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.024703 = 0.4941 BTC [-]
01:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.024703 = 0.3952 BTC [-]
01:00 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.30994 = 3.0994 BTC [+]
01:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.56 BTC [-]
01:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0252 = 0.1764 BTC [+]
01:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.64 = 4.48 BTC [+]
01:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.025316 = 0.3797 BTC [+]
01:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.025315 = 0.2278 BTC [-]
01:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.5825 = 5.165 BTC [+]
01:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.025315 = 0.2785 BTC [-]
01:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025315 BTC [-]
01:26 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.30993 = 1.2397 BTC [-]
01:26 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.30993 BTC [-]
01:28 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 179 @ 0.010908 = 1.9525 BTC [+]
01:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.583 BTC [+]
01:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074232 = 3.7116 BTC [-]
01:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5394 @ 0.0007424 = 4.0045 BTC [+]
01:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.31941 BTC [+]
01:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.584 = 5.168 BTC [+]
01:35 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.00064 = 0.032 BTC [+]
01:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.025329 = 0.3546 BTC [+]
01:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00259989 = 2.5999 BTC [+]
01:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0026 = 1.56 BTC [+]
01:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02533 = 0.5066 BTC [+]
01:37 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1951 = 0.5853 BTC [-]
01:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00273307 = 2.7331 BTC [+]
01:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00273309 = 2.7331 BTC [+]
01:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0027499 = 2.7499 BTC [+]
01:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.55 BTC [-]
01:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.55 BTC [-]
01:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.01999 BTC [+]
01:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.025379 = 0.2284 BTC [+]
01:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025379 BTC [+]
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.002601 BTC [-]
02:06 dub if you know something about bible you know bitcoin maybe it's 666 . maybe later you don't need a computer, just embed a chip into your hand ,. forehead , whatsoever,, and you can make a deal... holly crap.. if you want to survive in the future.. you gonna need this,, badly.. find many bitcoin for your future living... man . I am serious
02:06 dub hey hey hey ,,this is 666 Satan's ultimate economic system.. if you wanna survive in the future have money to buy things you gonna need this. but also you can buy real sliver too, don't need this Satan damn shit thing thought .. we have to against them,, but you know,,the best hackers in the world can't even hack into them,, cause the logic is hard.. the password... etc... so what we can do is...nothing.. just pray for God.. you don't wanna live
02:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024 BTC [-]
02:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.024824 = 0.4965 BTC [+]
02:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024824 BTC [+]
02:14 Namworld Are you high today, dub?
02:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8333 @ 0.00074807 = 6.2337 BTC [+]
02:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1405 @ 0.00074901 = 1.0524 BTC [+]
02:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.568 BTC [+]
02:30 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.63999 = 1.92 BTC [-]
02:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02537 BTC [+]
02:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.025349 = 0.507 BTC [-]
02:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02535 = 0.2789 BTC [+]
02:37 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002695 BTC [+]
02:43 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.1951 = 1.3657 BTC [-]
02:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025349 = 0.1267 BTC [-]
02:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024951 = 0.1248 BTC [-]
02:50 ericmuyser dub: dem some powerful drugs mate
02:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.024815 = 0.8685 BTC [-]
02:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.02535 = 0.7605 BTC [+]
02:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 46 @ 0.02538 = 1.1675 BTC [+]
02:53 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.1951 = 0.3902 BTC [-]
03:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025369 = 0.1268 BTC [-]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02537 = 0.1269 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 93 @ 0.000639 = 0.0594 BTC [-]
03:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [-]
03:07 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.002694 = 0.0054 BTC [-]
03:07 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.002694 = 0.0216 BTC [-]
03:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.025379 = 0.5076 BTC [+]
03:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02519998 = 0.0756 BTC [-]
03:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.02519998 = 0.1764 BTC [-]
03:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.520001 BTC [-]
03:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.52 BTC [-]
03:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02537 = 0.1269 BTC [-]
03:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [-]
03:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.025379 = 0.3807 BTC [+]
03:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.02538 = 2.4111 BTC [+]
03:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02538 BTC [+]
03:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00074901 = 10.0367 BTC [+]
03:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025379 = 0.1015 BTC [-]
03:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.025379 = 0.8629 BTC [-]
03:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02538 = 0.0761 BTC [+]
03:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.00074901 = 27.7883 BTC [+]
03:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02538 = 0.1015 BTC [+]
03:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.0251 = 2.3845 BTC [-]
03:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02538 BTC [+]
03:40 usagi lol 666
03:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02511 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
03:40 usagi 666 is 0.999 fine gold == money
03:40 usagi money is the devil
~ 18 minutes ~
03:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0251 = 0.3765 BTC [-]
04:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 68 @ 0.025011 = 1.7007 BTC [-]
04:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.52 BTC [-]
04:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.51 BTC [-]
04:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
04:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
04:15 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.30993 = 0.9298 BTC [-]
04:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02517 = 0.1259 BTC [+]
04:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024905 = 0.0747 BTC [-]
04:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 44 @ 0.024903 = 1.0957 BTC [-]
04:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024902 = 0.0747 BTC [-]
04:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 93 @ 0.0249 = 2.3157 BTC [-]
04:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.53 = 5.06 BTC [+]
04:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 154 @ 0.0249 = 3.8346 BTC [-]
04:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.545 BTC [+]
04:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02535 BTC [+]
04:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.543 BTC [-]
04:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02535 BTC [+]
04:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
04:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.4999 BTC [-]
04:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00074901 = 0.6741 BTC [+]
04:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.02482 = 0.4219 BTC [-]
05:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.533 BTC [+]
05:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.529999 BTC [-]
05:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.7249 BTC [+]
05:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02515 BTC [-]
05:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 67 @ 0.0252 = 1.6884 BTC [+]
05:26 Chaang-Noi zup all, i miss any drama whill away?
05:34 Chaang-Noi fastcash4bitcoins seems dead?
05:37 Chaang-Noi is assbot dead?
05:37 Chaang-Noi this chan is dead dead
05:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.02523 = 0.3028 BTC [+]
05:38 Chaang-Noi there we go
05:44 Chaang-Noi http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f99gi/6k_invested_in_the_asicminer_ipo_would_value_16m/ best psot evar :)
05:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 205 @ 0.0252 = 5.166 BTC [+]
05:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 492 @ 0.025225 = 12.4107 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
06:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.5279 = 7.5837 BTC [-]
06:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.528 BTC [+]
06:14 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [+]
06:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.02523 = 0.4541 BTC [+]
06:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.02524 = 0.4291 BTC [+]
06:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4394 BTC [+]
06:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.025225 = 0.2018 BTC [+]
06:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4395 = 1.758 BTC [+]
06:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 182 @ 0.02524 = 4.5937 BTC [+]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.024901 = 0.498 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0249 = 0.0498 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02485 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 55 @ 0.024818 = 1.365 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.024815 = 1.4889 BTC [-]
06:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.024814 = 0.3722 BTC [-]
06:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.02524 = 1.0096 BTC [+]
06:40 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
07:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.7249 BTC [+]
07:01 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: im expecting AM divs between 0.02 and 0.03 per share, think im far off the mark?
07:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02524 = 0.2524 BTC [+]
07:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025238 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 72 @ 0.02524 = 1.8173 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 423 @ 0.002724 = 1.1523 BTC [+]
07:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02524 BTC [+]
07:13 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0029 = 0.29 BTC [+]
07:23 deadweasel ;;ticker --last
07:23 gribble 129.00001
07:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 151 @ 0.02524 = 3.8112 BTC [+]
07:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
07:31 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 30 @ 0.30994 = 9.2982 BTC [+]
07:32 Chaang-Noi fiat500 i agree but i would say closer to .02 than .03
07:34 fiat500 even factoring in the usb miner sales that were excluded last week?
07:34 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.00068 = 0.002 BTC [+]
07:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.02524 = 0.4796 BTC [+]
07:39 Chaang-Noi iv not done the math but my guess would be .024
07:45 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1442 @ 0.0029 = 4.1818 BTC [+]
07:46 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.0034 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
07:46 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.00344 = 0.0138 BTC [+]
07:47 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 47 @ 0.003444 = 0.1619 BTC [+]
07:47 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 68 @ 0.003445 = 0.2343 BTC [+]
07:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.528 BTC [+]
07:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5295 BTC [+]
07:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.5299 = 25.299 BTC [+]
07:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.53 = 7.59 BTC [+]
07:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.53 = 10.12 BTC [+]
07:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.531 = 15.186 BTC [+]
08:00 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.639999 = 3.84 BTC [+]
08:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0252 = 0.1008 BTC [-]
08:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.53 BTC [-]
08:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0252 = 0.2268 BTC [-]
08:05 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000639 = 0.0013 BTC [-]
08:06 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
08:06 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.10002, Best ask: 129.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28998, Last trade: 129.10001, 24 hour volume: 16707.74643501, 24 hour low: 125.40000, 24 hour high: 129.87900, 24 hour vwap: 128.18312
08:06 mircea_popescu ahh, two months of stability, this is so very cool.
08:07 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
08:07 gribble 100058.590916
08:10 ThickAsThieves <fiat500> ThickAsThieves: im expecting AM divs between 0.02 and 0.03 per share, think im far off the mark? <<< Fairly impossible to say. Last week the nethash was at 80000, and AM only sold its first batch of USBs. My hope is that extra 20000 in hashing is from blade sales, and that the USB sales have picked up to 5000+. It's also always possible that Friedcat retains a div for new
08:10 ThickAsThieves hardware.
08:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
08:13 Chaang-Noi anyone know if friedcat has moved any shares recently?
08:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.025 = 2.375 BTC [-]
08:14 ThickAsThieves i've been waiting like 5 days for an email response
08:15 Chaang-Noi okay so im not the only one
08:15 Chaang-Noi yeah has been 5 days for me as well
08:15 Chaang-Noi i was not going to bother him about it
08:15 Chaang-Noi im sure he is busy
08:16 Chaang-Noi also for anyone who has not heard fastcash4bitcoins is down, and down hard
08:16 Chaang-Noi no idea why
08:18 Chaang-Noi was nice to see AM solo mine 4 blocs in a row
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1999 = 0.7996 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 425 @ 0.000639 = 0.2716 BTC [-]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 950 @ 0.00064 = 0.608 BTC [+]
08:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 17 @ 0.000699 = 0.0119 BTC [+]
08:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000744 = 0.0074 BTC [+]
08:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.53 BTC [-]
08:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000744 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
08:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.53 = 5.06 BTC [-]
08:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.531 = 5.062 BTC [+]
08:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.531 = 5.062 BTC [+]
08:32 assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [+]
08:33 assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [+]
08:37 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00269 BTC [-]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 115 @ 0.00269 = 0.3094 BTC [-]
08:43 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1796 @ 0.002694 = 4.8384 BTC [+]
08:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.025169 = 0.4279 BTC [+]
08:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025169 = 0.0503 BTC [+]
08:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02517 = 0.0503 BTC [+]
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02543 BTC [+]
09:03 ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/29/4375342/fbi-child-pornography-pedophilia-sting-operation
09:03 pigeons I just got a solicitation from Matthew N. Wright for a conference he is organizing in Amsterdam.
09:03 ThickAsThieves i wonder how running Silk Road is going for them
09:03 pigeons damn mircea_popescu you are right about these conference organizer people
09:03 mircea_popescu eh ?
09:04 pigeons bruce wagner had a conference, we had the intersangro one with nefario, the last one was sponsered by vessenes and now matthew n wright
09:04 mircea_popescu lol
09:04 mircea_popescu you know i also had one.
09:04 pigeons lol
09:05 mircea_popescu mine however was ciuuuuuulll
09:05 mircea_popescu cause it wasn't in schiuuuuullll
09:05 Chaang-Noi dont forget supernode
09:05 fiat500 http://www.reddit.com/r/trapsgonebitcoin
09:06 mircea_popescu i wonder what cartman would say of bitcoinz.
09:06 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.0027 = 1.35 BTC [+]
09:06 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 29 @ 0.00271 = 0.0786 BTC [+]
09:07 fiat500 http://www.reddit.com/r/girlsgonebitcoin
09:07 fiat500 well then..
09:07 Chaang-Noi lol
09:07 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00298 BTC [+]
09:07 Chaang-Noi pigeons going to amsterdam? :)
09:07 Chaang-Noi i doubt i will get the invite
09:09 fiat500 democratizing the porn industry, i like it
09:09 pigeons no, i would be suprised if that guy has enough credibility left to run a conference
09:09 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/okpay-takes-bitcoin-hiatus-2/
09:09 pigeons i saw bitcoin magazine at the barnes & noble yesterday, i passed
09:09 Chaang-Noi he and vlad got kicked out for stealing funds
09:10 Chaang-Noi bitcoin mag is now run and payed for by i think bitinstant
09:10 pigeons yes i'm familiar
09:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5355 BTC [+]
09:10 pigeons not bitinstant, bitpay
09:10 Chaang-Noi right
09:10 pigeons tony and giga and crew
09:10 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/bitcointalk-at-war-with-ad-blockers/
09:10 ThickAsThieves kinda funny
09:11 Chaang-Noi yeah
09:11 ThickAsThieves theymos brags he can circumvent adblocker repeatedly, and fails
09:11 Chaang-Noi yes
09:12 Chaang-Noi its like he chalanged then
09:12 Chaang-Noi them*
09:12 ThickAsThieves and also told them how he was doing it
09:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5355 BTC [+]
09:13 fiat500 does anyone like theymos?
09:13 ThickAsThieves ive never dealt with him
09:13 fiat500 i dont know him, but ive yet to see anything positive said about him
09:13 Chaang-Noi i do not trust him (he has fucked me over more than once), however as a site admin he seems fine
09:14 ThickAsThieves i imagine it's not easy to be liked when you're the focal point of a forum
09:14 ThickAsThieves and a forum full of trolls, socks, scammers, noobs, etc
09:15 fiat500 how did he get one of the signing keys
09:15 Chaang-Noi as a site admin i have no problem with how he runs the forum over all, (some people do) however personally i think he is an opertunist scammer who should not be trsuted
09:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5358 BTC [+]
09:15 Chaang-Noi selling glbse shares right before he knew it was worthless is one example
09:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.5359 = 5.0718 BTC [+]
09:15 ThickAsThieves that sounds smart to me
09:15 fiat500 insider trading lulz
09:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.5355 = 7.6065 BTC [-]
09:16 Scrat theymos should no longer be the btctalk admin
09:16 ThickAsThieves who should be?
09:16 Chaang-Noi i thought that once he was caught reading pms
09:16 Chaang-Noi but oh well
09:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5359 BTC [+]
09:17 Chaang-Noi 70.34.195.202 is this the real site?
09:17 Scrat https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214520.0
09:17 Scrat read the first line
09:17 Scrat and laugh
09:17 Chaang-Noi or just a scam to get passowrds?
09:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4397 BTC [+]
09:18 mircea_popescu fiat500 he's a kid, doing okay on the freedom of speech angle, i don't mind him
09:18 Scrat he has been stonewalling this "forum software" for 20 months now
09:18 mircea_popescu he got mixed up in the glbse implosion, got out on his word, hopefully it's his last dubious point.
09:18 ThickAsThieves we got +trust feature
09:18 ThickAsThieves that's only forum dev i've seen
09:18 Scrat as if anyone should be making their own forum software
09:19 Scrat what a fucking joke
09:19 mircea_popescu Scrat he has about half a million dollars to do it.
09:19 mircea_popescu phpbb never did.
09:19 mircea_popescu course, it's a waste of resourcves, the forum problem is mostly resolved, and not worth money in any event.
09:19 Scrat phpbb is horrible
09:19 ThickAsThieves however, i dont like how he sells his ads
09:19 ThickAsThieves forum auction for ads is retarded
09:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02543 = 0.1017 BTC [+]
09:20 ThickAsThieves how do you build partnerships that way?
09:20 ThickAsThieves and how can people trust the bids
09:20 mircea_popescu why ?
09:20 Chaang-Noi he is forcing everyone to use his trust list be default
09:20 mircea_popescu how would the forum build partnerships anyway.
09:20 Chaang-Noi i do not agree with this
09:20 mircea_popescu that's a bad idea.
09:20 Chaang-Noi i also dont like him giving info to the police unless they have a warrent but he does that as well
09:20 ThickAsThieves he could simply have a publishe rate
09:20 ThickAsThieves published
09:21 ThickAsThieves and raise it as necessary
09:21 mircea_popescu well sure.
09:21 ThickAsThieves then he could cross promote with advertising partners that make longer term commitments
09:21 ThickAsThieves so he can go back to dev or whatever
09:21 mircea_popescu nah.
09:22 mircea_popescu then he'd get associated wit hthem. this model sunk the magazine
09:22 mircea_popescu (on top of the ineptitude of those involved, sure0
09:22 pigeons they could partner with bfl...
09:22 ThickAsThieves they practicaloly have
09:22 ThickAsThieves BFL won the ads so many times
09:23 ThickAsThieves and scammed so many people thanks to theymos
09:23 mircea_popescu yeah. if they had a partnership that'd be it.
09:23 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 58 @ 0.016899 = 0.9801 BTC [+]
09:23 ThickAsThieves not sure itd be any different really
09:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 393 @ 0.02543 = 9.994 BTC [+]
09:24 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0169 BTC [+]
09:24 ThickAsThieves for all we know they did collude
09:24 ThickAsThieves to have BFL win
09:24 pigeons you're so grumpy ThickAsThieves
09:24 ThickAsThieves not usually
09:25 mircea_popescu well for all we know is a weak arguyment in btc
09:25 ThickAsThieves i just think the bidding for ads thing is more appropriate for unrepresented ads
09:25 mircea_popescu for all we know you're my mom and erik is pumping dice etc etc
09:25 ThickAsThieves like Google Adwords
09:25 pigeons your mom is the whale
09:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02543 = 0.0763 BTC [+]
09:26 mircea_popescu no urs
09:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0254 BTC [-]
09:27 ThickAsThieves healthy skepticism
09:27 ThickAsThieves i'm surprised i turned out to be the tinfoiler in here
09:27 ThickAsThieves new hat for me
09:27 mircea_popescu well its cause you're new
09:27 mircea_popescu usually new people are the tinfoilers
09:28 mircea_popescu (nothing wron with it)
09:34 Chaang-Noi speaking of tinfoil fastcash is down sota
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02543 = 0.1017 BTC [+]
09:38 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01699 BTC [+]
09:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02517 BTC [+]
09:42 Chaang-Noi what is the best way to wipe a file in linux?
09:43 fiat500 delete file, overwrite all free space several times
09:43 fiat500 can be done with standard gnu software
09:43 Scrat which if you're using an SSD is useless btw
09:43 fiat500 ssd: delete file.
09:46 usagi http://linux.die.net/man/1/wipe
09:47 pigeons http://www.hostjury.com/blog/view/195/the-great-zero-challenge-remains-unaccepted
09:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 500 @ 0.000745 = 0.3725 BTC [+]
09:48 topace dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda :p wipe your whole drive :p
09:48 Scrat file vs. entire drive
09:48 Scrat some disks do LBA translation
09:49 Scrat SSDs always do LBA translation
09:49 usagi "The ATA includes the Secure Erase command, which is implemented in all hard drives manufactured after 2001." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srm_%28Unix%29
09:49 pigeons copy everything you need "to the cloud" and then use hammer
09:49 fiat500 lmao
09:49 Diablo-D3 so guys
09:50 Diablo-D3 how are people selling bitcoins now?
09:50 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
09:50 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.48990, Best ask: 129.48995, Bid-ask spread: 0.00005, Last trade: 129.48995, 24 hour volume: 15505.22792168, 24 hour low: 125.40000, 24 hour high: 129.77000, 24 hour vwap: 128.22300
09:50 ThickAsThieves in what country?
09:50 Scrat now is the time to release diablocoin
09:50 Diablo-D3 in the US
09:50 Scrat eclipse all the other shitty altcoins
09:51 pigeons tonal diablocoin
09:51 ThickAsThieves coinbase, campbx
09:51 Chaang-Noi pigeons> copy everything you need "to the cloud" and then use hammer :)
09:51 Scrat tonal diablocoin if you're into BDSM yes
09:51 Chaang-Noi awesome :)
09:51 Diablo-D3 isnt dwolla getting rid of all bitcoin exchanges?
09:52 ThickAsThieves seems to be healthy with campbx
09:52 ThickAsThieves coinbase does ACH
09:52 ThickAsThieves and Ukto is hinting that Weex will do ACH soon
09:53 ThickAsThieves coinbase is the simplest, only requiring checking account verification with test deposits
09:53 fiat500 bulbul investments? lol
09:53 ThickAsThieves campbx requires full KYC if you wanna do decently sized tx
09:53 fiat500 is campbx run by arabs?
09:54 ThickAsThieves i forget the nationality of the owner
09:54 ThickAsThieves pretty sure he's middle eastern
09:54 fiat500 bulbul is arabic for songbird
09:54 fiat500 interesting
09:54 pigeons mtgox is run by jews and btce are black
09:55 pigeons share buyback complete?
09:55 Diablo-D3 has nothing to do with DMC
09:55 fiat500 Diablo-D3: i know someone who wants 80btc worth
09:57 mjr_ you guys, how can i get my app to have charts and graphs and all the things
09:57 Diablo-D3 how many btc can I sell on coinbase without triggering KVC
09:57 fiat500 mjr_: there are dozens of js charting frameworks
09:57 pigeons that's "structuring"
09:57 Diablo-D3 mjr_: get one that uses D3, theres several
09:57 fiat500 Diablo-D3: you can sell 50btc per day/month
09:57 fiat500 if you are selling that many, dont use coinbase
09:58 ThickAsThieves diablo, i dunno if/when coinbase requires KYC, they only use ACH so maybe it's not needed.
09:58 Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: ahh
09:58 Diablo-D3 fiat500: why not?
09:58 ThickAsThieves btw CampBx recently got their MSB
09:58 mjr_ fiat500: i know, mostly an amir taaki joke
09:58 fiat500 Diablo-D3: 50btc limit
09:58 Diablo-D3 if its 50btc per month, I can just sell 50btc per month
09:59 fiat500 LMFAO what a coincidence
09:59 fiat500 i just got an email
09:59 fiat500 "Good news. You can now buy and sell more bitcoin on Coinbase."
09:59 fiat500 they just increased my limit
09:59 Diablo-D3 nice
09:59 fiat500 weird, they said it would take 30 days after the first purchase, its only been 1 week
10:00 mjr_ coinbase actually was really cool about some bug they had
10:00 mjr_ nice guys
10:00 fiat500 Diablo-D3: actually its 50btc/day
10:00 fiat500 very reasonable then
10:02 fiat500 Diablo-D3: if you are selling that many, would you be interested in selling 80 to a colleague of mine?
10:02 Scrat why you cashing out D3
10:03 fiat500 hah, it wasnt a coincidence, they have a bug - simply visiting https://coinbase.com/verifications causes you to get an email letting you know your limits have been increased
10:03 mircea_popescu lmao
10:04 Scrat lol
10:05 mircea_popescu "experts".
10:05 mircea_popescu somebody should write the book of humiliating VCs.
10:06 fiat500 to be fair mircea_popescu, this is a pretty harmless bug :P
10:06 mircea_popescu depends. harmless, in what sense ?
10:07 fiat500 its just a redundant email informing you of a change that already happened
10:07 fiat500 no change to account state occurs because of it
10:07 mircea_popescu these are unequal concepts. a bug is a bug in any definition. it may only be harmless for some definitions of harm
10:07 mircea_popescu which one may or may not agree on. so no bug can be truly harmless.
10:07 Scrat fiat500: no because it shows you that they couldn't handle simple things like that
10:08 mircea_popescu there you go.
10:08 fiat500 ive seen worth things from google, you guys use google right? lol
10:08 fiat500 *worse
10:08 <pigeons> share buyback complete? << is DMC being wound down?
10:09 Scrat well google is broad. if youtube spews out errors I could care less
10:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025199 BTC [+]
10:09 Scrat this is about money. have you seen all these threads wrt coinbase negative balances?
10:10 mircea_popescu Scrat they never manned up to that lol.
10:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.53589 = 5.0718 BTC [-]
10:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.5359 = 15.2154 BTC [+]
10:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.536 BTC [+]
10:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 2.537 = 25.37 BTC [+]
10:10 mircea_popescu [\\\] from what i understand,yes.
10:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0251 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
10:12 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 6 @ 0.00298 = 0.0179 BTC [+]
10:18 oh look, someone's editing live css on bitcointalk
10:18 let's not use staging guys
10:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.538 BTC [+]
10:18 just edit live code
10:19 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1f9apl/alert_microsoft_advertising_network_is_serving_up/
10:19 ThickAsThieves mtgox.org trap
10:20 Scrat oh shit
10:20 Scrat mah coinz
10:20 fiat500 idiots for not reserving the main tlds
10:22 Scrat [\\\]: what makes you say that
10:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.0251 = 0.4016 BTC [-]
10:23 Scrat: what makes me say what?
10:23 editing live code?
10:23 it looks like shit at the moment
10:24 someone's editing stuff and screwed something up
10:24 meh
10:24 Scrat always looked like shit so I can't see the difference
10:24 for a while, the header wasn't laying out correctly
10:25 the 'new' icon was showing as crappy text, etc
10:28 mircea_popescu lol scrat
10:28 thestringpuller hey mp did you get my pm lol
10:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.025199 = 1.008 BTC [+]
10:32 mjr_ hi
10:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.025199 = 0.9324 BTC [+]
10:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025199 BTC [+]
10:39 pigeons mircea_popescu: did your girl watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYzXNhk3Vjw
10:39 mircea_popescu what is it ?
10:39 pigeons http://i.imgur.com/IPP4xHP.gif
10:40 mircea_popescu ahahah
10:40 kakobrekla princess taaki
10:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.318999 BTC [-]
10:41 kakobrekla cant watch it
10:41 kakobrekla too painful
10:41 kakobrekla :\
10:42 mircea_popescu lolk
10:46 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00296 = 0.0059 BTC [-]
10:46 mircea_popescu what the fuck do you do if a chick thinks your earwax tastes great ?!
10:47 kakobrekla try it out for yourself?
10:47 mircea_popescu its not bad but i mean... wtf.
10:48 Chaang-Noi .04plus not bad at all
10:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 55 @ 0.025239 = 1.3881 BTC [+]
10:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025249 BTC [+]
10:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.538 BTC [+]
10:51 usagi Why is Amir Taaki on TV and I'm not?
10:52 usagi I mean come on, I've been on TV before, I was in a few asian soap operas, at least I'm photogenic
10:52 usagi They keep putting people like keples and taaki on TV...
10:52 ThickAsThieves Goat, is that div verified?
10:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.02543 = 1.7801 BTC [+]
10:53 usagi Taaki was the wrong person to put on crosstalk, he's a good speaker but clearly untrained in debate
10:54 mjr_ he was on crosstalk?
10:54 mjr_ did he talk about the charts and graphs and all the things?
10:55 Chaang-Noi TAT not at all
10:55 Chaang-Noi i was trolled
10:55 ThickAsThieves hehe
10:56 ThickAsThieves big buy on gox
10:57 usagi god taaki is getting murdered on crosstalk
10:57 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
10:57 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.90000, Best ask: 129.22581, Bid-ask spread: 0.32581, Last trade: 129.22581, 24 hour volume: 13643.33032007, 24 hour low: 126.00000, 24 hour high: 129.77000, 24 hour vwap: 128.54519
10:57 ThickAsThieves meh
10:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 43 @ 0.025249 = 1.0857 BTC [+]
10:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.538 BTC [+]
10:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02525 = 0.0505 BTC [+]
10:59 usagi At least we have Max Keiser...
10:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.538 BTC [+]
11:04 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: i hear divs are going to be 0.8/share
11:06 ThickAsThieves hehe
11:06 ThickAsThieves this Ed guy in this video is pretty absurd
11:06 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 7 @ 0.193 = 1.351 BTC [-]
11:06 fiat500 fuck it im out
11:06 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 67 @ 0.19201 = 12.8647 BTC [-]
11:07 fiat500 fuck you unicorns
11:07 usagi out of what
11:07 ThickAsThieves CT
11:07 fiat500 yep
11:07 kakobrekla fuck you dolphins!
11:07 kakobrekla fuck you whale!
11:07 fiat500 LOL
11:07 fiat500 especially whale
11:07 usagi Dolphins are good though. They like to play in the water.
11:08 usagi i guarantee you that you will never see that daniel guy on tv ever again
11:10 ericmuyser amir... wtf
11:10 jcpham but unicorns
11:11 fiat500 sigh
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02543 = 0.0509 BTC [+]
11:11 fiat500 any btct admins around
11:11 jcpham amir was on crosstalk?!?!?
11:11 fiat500 trying to withdraw 14btc and im in manual processing purgatory
11:11 ThickAsThieves pm Burnside on the forums
11:11 ThickAsThieves oh
11:11 mjr_ isn't that a super old video?
11:11 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: i cant pm anyone on the forums
11:11 ThickAsThieves you just gotta wait man
11:11 mjr_ or this a newer one?
11:11 jcpham oh is it
11:11 jcpham i know he's bad on video
11:11 fiat500 blargh, i will wait
11:12 jcpham i was hoping it didn't happen again but if it's new i want to lol at it
11:12 ThickAsThieves "The world economy is the United States" says Dan
11:12 mjr_ yeah i am reading on the forum, and these guys are right, they like watching amir kinda get crazy and ranty...
11:13 mjr_ erik voorhees, trace meyer or jon matonis would have stomped the other guys easily
11:13 fiat500 who is this amir you guys keep talking about
11:14 mjr_ he started intersango
11:14 usagi Well at least Erik is reliable
11:14 mjr_ Erik is probably one of the top 5 smartest guys in bitcoin
11:14 mjr_ in my humble opinion
11:15 mjr_ mircea is also in that group
11:15 usagi Sure, he's a smart guy
11:15 ThickAsThieves oops Ed said that, not Dan
11:15 ThickAsThieves "The world economy is the United States" says Ed
11:15 usagi Should probably hire a better PR though
11:16 mjr_ if you read what he wrote about bitcoin as money, it was the perfect piece to explain bitcoin from a historical financial perspective
11:16 usagi link?
11:16 mjr_ http://evoorhees.blogspot.com/2013/05/bitcoin-2013-role-of-bitcoin-as-money.html
11:16 usagi Have you read "A History of Money and Banking in the United States"?
11:17 mjr_ he makes things that are not taught in school seem fresh and relevant, and most importantly understandable to dumb americans
11:17 mjr_ he typically says what he says in a calm collected way
11:17 usagi "And so, much of our lives is spent searching and grasping for something we don’t understand." -- this is very true. People have $20 in their pocket for most of their lives so they think they understand money, and they really don't.
11:18 mjr_ usagi: this is my point, he is reexamining what people take as already understood, showing it is not understood, and then enlightening, all while using a great vocabulary and grammar...he is explaining water to fish
11:18 mjr_ he uses cold logic and reason
11:18 usagi "In absence of a proper education, most assume that society just arbitrarily decided to make gold money, and that any other commodity would have worked roughly as well. " This ewasn't mircea's talk
11:19 mjr_ its almost impossible to dispute his points because his laying of the logical framework is concise and clear
11:19 mjr_ usagi: it was erik voorhee's talk at bitcoin 22013
11:19 mjr_ 2013 of course
11:20 usagi Hmm, erik wrote this?
11:20 mjr_ yep
11:20 usagi I have a vast and newfound respect for the man
11:20 mjr_ there you go
11:20 usagi I thought he was just some guy who ran satoshidice ^^
11:20 mjr_ lol
11:20 mjr_ you probably would appreciate the rest of his posts too. his posts on "redistribution" are very good
11:21 mjr_ i had issues with "libertarianism" or whatever
11:21 mjr_ but actually, i think it makes sense
11:21 mjr_ i was worried about the social implications, i think everyone should have a guaranteed bare minimum quality of life
11:21 usagi If you really want to understand money, read mises.. "a history of money and banking..." great book
11:21 mjr_ i do not want to live in a society where people are allowed to starve to death on the streets
11:21 mjr_ usagi: i will take a look at that
11:21 fiat500 "And it cannot be manipulated, restricted, or seized by any central party (shares this property with gold). Nobody has special privileges. In this way, it is very democratic, and very egalitarian. "
11:22 fiat500 if china seizes asicminer assets, they can take over the network
11:22 mjr_ maybe temporarily
11:22 fiat500 temporarily enough to destroy it
11:22 deadweasel to fork it
11:22 usagi mjr_ I don't know. The truth is, if you look at the people who end up starving on the streets a great majority of them cannot be helped by any system
11:22 deadweasel not destroy it
11:22 mjr_ but after all, its the idea that will survive, though i have high hopes for bitcoin, it may not be the ultimate winner
11:22 deadweasel ^
11:22 ericmuyser ^
11:23 usagi I spent a long time living on the streets, and all I learned can be summed up as... the cream always rises to the top, and, you can't keep a good man down
11:23 deadweasel i would feel like real twat if it turned out to be bbqcoin
11:23 usagi People starve to death because they are essentially worthless.. that is the 95% case
11:23 mjr_ usagi: i agree
11:23 mjr_ but the issue is not their starving
11:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2993 @ 0.00074441 = 2.228 BTC [-]
11:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00073965 = 0.8876 BTC [-]
11:23 mjr_ its my uncomfortability watching that
11:23 mjr_ i derive value by not seeing that
11:24 mjr_ and people rarely die quietly
11:24 mjr_ they will try to take people with them
11:24 deadweasel i don't think anyone should have guaranteed anything. I think people should live right, and that would all take care of itself.
11:24 usagi Who was it that said, it is the right to the bathroom. When you have too many people, you no longer have the right to use the bathroom for as long as you want
11:24 usagi I believe it was in albert bartlett's talk
11:25 usagi You know, having a heart is probably going to turn out to be a weakness one day, mjr
11:25 usagi it's probably going to get you killed
11:25 mjr_ lol
11:26 mjr_ its not about having a heart
11:26 mjr_ its about rational self interest
11:26 mjr_ if keeping people fed costs less than hiring a private army to protect your wealth it is rational to keep people fed
11:27 mjr_ so far, this has been the case
11:27 mjr_ people need to see the broad view of value, understand that no one wants to live in a mansion in a ghetto
11:27 mjr_ 3 most important rules of real estate...
11:27 mjr_ location, location, location
11:27 mjr_ its the network effect
11:28 mjr_ i want to live in a nice area, surrounded by others who live in a nice area, where i am safe from threat of theft and physical harm
11:28 usagi yes
11:28 mjr_ so, bums harrassing me for change is not my idea of a good time
11:28 usagi Stay out of the city
11:28 mjr_ lol, new york city is the best
11:28 usagi You can see it coming on every streetcorner, and now, along the streets
11:28 mjr_ to me, the only place to live in the US
11:29 mjr_ but anyway, the point is that you want to build a society that is great, not a house that is great
11:29 mjr_ andrew carnegie, j pierpont morgan, john d rockefeller, they understood this
11:29 mjr_ which is why they volunteered their money towards those efforts
11:30 mjr_ would someone say they were not capitalist? were they retarded?
11:30 mjr_ they seem to have done ok for themselves
11:30 usagi Well that was a vastly different time
11:30 mjr_ but all the robber barons donated a LOT to charity
11:30 mjr_ think of it this way
11:30 mjr_ how do the rich get rich
11:30 mjr_ every dollar they have, if obtained legally, came from someone else who willingly parted with it in exchange for some service or good
11:31 mjr_ so they are as rich as they have done things that benefitted peple
11:31 mjr_ people
11:31 mjr_ so...in order for them to get the dollars that others wanted to give them, they have to HAVE others with dollars
11:31 mjr_ the tale of king midas was a cautionary tale, too many forget that
11:32 usagi oh, king midas... i read about that one. I forget the moral
11:32 mjr_ lol, you starve to death alone and unloved, but shit tons of gold
11:32 mjr_ sound fun?
11:32 mjr_ money is not important in and of itself, its the things that money can get you
11:32 usagi I think it was 'money does not buy happiness'
11:33 mjr_ which are typically created by other people
11:33 mjr_ have you ever been to a dry county in america?
11:33 mjr_ your money can't get you an alcoholic beverage
11:33 usagi Not sure what you mean. I can buy anything anywhere in america
11:33 mjr_ you can have millions of dollars in the bank, if you have no cash and walk into a cash only restaurant, you're broke
11:34 mjr_ you can't buy liquor in a dry county in america
11:34 deadweasel usagi not true, dry counties, local laws prevent LARD from being sold in some places. Raw milk farmer raided in maine last week.
11:34 mjr_ yes, trans fat in new york city is another example
11:34 mjr_ etc etc etc
11:34 usagi Mmm
11:34 mjr_ point is, unless you feel like by yourself producing everything you will ever want, its a good idea for other people to have money
11:34 mjr_ and produce things that you will want
11:35 mjr_ so if we establish that others are necessary, and no man is an island, it stands to reason that the best society is the one with the most productive members
11:35 mjr_ and due to the network effect, we all gain more than just the sum of our production
11:35 usagi The parable of the grasshopper and the ant is more applicable to this, I feel.
11:36 usagi The grasshopper was the one who ordered around the ants all day, and in the end the ants shut him out.
11:36 mjr_ so a homeless guy is not only an affront to my sense of decency and aesthetics, its also robbing me of what he could have produced
11:36 deadweasel Bitfunder: Graet.Loan
11:36 usagi But I feel there are much deeper problems to this, homelessness/vagrant problem
11:37 mjr_ the main point that i took away was that the pie is not fixed in size, none of the things we have now were found in a forest, we built them, man creates wealth, not finds it
11:37 deadweasel anybody know anything? .05% daily
11:37 usagi deadweasel; I own a couple thousand shares
11:37 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.000749 BTC [+]
11:37 usagi it looks good.
11:37 mjr_ slightly better yield than namworlds
11:37 usagi graet runs ozcoin and weexchange and a few others
11:37 mjr_ ;;calc .05*365
11:37 gribble 18.25
11:37 mjr_ that doesn't take into account compounding
11:38 usagi compounding is 20.0%
11:38 mjr_ and who knows what the risk free rate is in bitcoin land anyway
11:38 usagi no such thing as risk free :)
11:38 mjr_ yes, but there is such a thing as a risk free rate
11:38 mjr_ which is the generally accepted best class of investment closest to risk free
11:38 usagi Even with negative interest rates you don't have risk free.
11:39 mjr_ i agree
11:39 mjr_ but we have a "risk free rate"
11:39 mjr_ which is a specific term
11:39 mjr_ its not without risk, the same way that breakfast cereal is not without rat turds
11:39 mjr_ but there is a rate we agree upon where we will consider it to be rat turd free
11:39 usagi i thought those were prizes
11:39 mjr_ hahaha
11:41 mjr_ so, i think that charitability is not incompatible with self interest
11:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
11:41 usagi So then it's settled. You can give money to vagrants.
11:41 mjr_ i always could
11:41 mjr_ i don't think i will get the return i'm looking for
11:42 mjr_ if someone could channel and use the tons of homeless people we have towards a purpose they could become very rich
11:42 kakobrekla king midas got off easy.
11:42 mjr_ how much money would it take for you to be ok with never having sex again?
11:43 mjr_ lol, never having food again?
11:43 usagi Well, everything king midas touched turned to gold, it's clear he was unable to have sex or even touch himself
11:43 deadweasel depends, could I fap?
11:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.539 = 7.617 BTC [+]
11:43 usagi so we could start with everything I touch turns to gold for starters
11:43 kakobrekla but his touch was reversed
11:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 2.54 = 30.48 BTC [+]
11:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.54 BTC [+]
11:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.02525 = 0.5303 BTC [+]
11:44 usagi i didn't read about that
11:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.54 = 10.16 BTC [+]
11:44 usagi According to Aristotle, legend held that Midas died of hunger as a result of his "vain prayer" for the gold touch.
11:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.54 = 5.08 BTC [+]
11:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02525 BTC [+]
11:46 mjr_ its a myth, it has a ton of different endings i'm sure
11:46 mjr_ but whether he lives or dies, the gold touch was a curse not a blessing
11:46 kakobrekla i just watched a scam ending then
11:46 usagi to what end I wonder
11:47 kakobrekla the touch was reversed and he could buttsex his daughter again
11:48 fiat500 rofl
11:48 Scrat son*
11:48 usagi The original king midas committed suicide by drinking bull's blood.
11:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02525 = 0.1263 BTC [+]
11:49 mjr_ anyways, this is why hoarding will never work as a long term strategy
11:49 mjr_ because like midas, it becomes worthless to have all of something
11:49 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.63999 = 1.28 BTC [-]
11:49 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.64 = 1.92 BTC [+]
11:49 mjr_ because the currency if not actually standing in place for something else that you want, is really worth nothing
11:50 kakobrekla example: ripple
11:50 kakobrekla oh wait!
11:50 ThickAsThieves Dividends for TAT.AM shares are all paid out except for BTCTC, which is scheduled. Payout is 0.00025211 per share.
11:50 Chaang-Noi :)
11:50 Chaang-Noi i heart AM
11:51 usagi 0.025 per AM huh. Another banner yield
11:51 Chaang-Noi 0.02653753
11:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.539 = 5.078 BTC [-]
11:51 Chaang-Noi he takes 5% or so
11:51 fiat500 next week is going to be worse
11:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.54 = 5.08 BTC [+]
11:51 fiat500 <0.02
11:51 Chaang-Noi unless we get up to 45% of the network
11:51 usagi Oh of course, it won't last forever, the market knows that or it would be 4BTC now
11:54 topace !ticker h asicm
11:54 assbot [HAVELOCK:ASICM] 1D: 0.02430000 / 0.0250097 / 0.02543000 (7818 shares, 195.52584850 BTC), 7D: 0.02110000 / 0.02512687 / 0.02765000 (80743 shares, 2028.81857870 BTC), 30D: 0.01290000 / 0.02100759 / 0.03000000 (258249 shares, 5425.18959427 BTC)
11:54 ThickAsThieves can anyone confirm to me if they got their TAT.AM divs on BTCTC?
11:54 Chaang-Noi from just what we mine, at this level i think its .016ish per share so really over .02 next week should not be all that hard
11:55 usagi https://bitfunder.com/asset/TAT.ASICMINER#pane_divs
11:55 Chaang-Noi i sold all mine TAT sorry
11:56 mircea_popescu thius is pretty cool, -assets econ class.
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.539 BTC [-]
11:57 mjr_ lol
11:57 usagi mjr said you were in the top five smartest people in the community.
11:57 mjr_ i actually think the dumbest people in the bitcoin space have to be a little smarter than the average american when it comes to economics
11:57 mjr_ but yes, mircea_popescu is in the top 5
11:57 mjr_ of which i only named 2
11:58 ericmuyser mjr_: or they like teh hashish
11:58 usagi You didn't name me, of course.
11:58 mjr_ well, you seem smart
11:58 mjr_ but i don't really know you very well
11:58 usagi i'm not top 5 material.
11:58 usagi top 200, sure
11:58 mjr_ and haven't listened to enough to make my own judgement, though it is just my opinion we are talking about
11:58 mjr_ so, its not some definitive metric
11:59 mjr_ just the people who are very impressive to one internet nobody
11:59 usagi well if it helps, I am a fully enlightened zen master.
11:59 usagi That has to count for something :>
11:59 mjr_ that does count for some mjr points
11:59 mircea_popescu im in the who ?
12:00 usagi oh I should tell you that mircea has had me on ignore for almost an entire year so he doesn't know what I said
12:00 mjr_ mircea_popescu: i just said that erik voorhees, and you are in my opinion in the top 5 smartest people in the bitcoin space
12:00 mircea_popescu o
12:00 mjr_ i haven't actually come up with the other 3 yet, but they obviously exist
12:00 mircea_popescu gavin for sure.
12:00 mircea_popescu i dunno how he manages not to explode, drowned in a barrel of idiots
12:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.02539 = 0.2793 BTC [-]
12:01 mjr_ and it was only my opinion as one guy who has observed, but yeah, gavin probably gets one of the spots, mike hearn too
12:01 mircea_popescu on a ship afloat a sea of idiots
12:01 mjr_ thats two tech guys, two business/finance guys
12:01 mjr_ who is the 5th
12:01 mircea_popescu taaki
12:01 usagi Theymos? :>
12:01 mjr_ LOL, it came up specifically due to amir taaki's interview
12:01 mjr_ on crosstalk
12:02 mjr_ because i said that jon matonis, trace meyer, or erik would have destroyed that ed guy
12:02 mircea_popescu but anyway : mpoe-pr
12:02 fiat500 16:00 < mircea_popescu> on a ship afloat a sea of idiots
12:02 fiat500 AHAHAHAHAHAH
12:02 mircea_popescu so it's not the "smartest five fags in btc"
12:02 fiat500 priceless quote
12:02 mjr_ while amir just kinda looked his usual way, though maybe better than last time i suppose
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.02539 = 0.1777 BTC [-]
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02539 BTC [-]
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02539 BTC [-]
12:03 mircea_popescu next can we pick the bitcoin mohhamed ?
12:03 mjr_ mircea_popescu: while i think mpoe-pr is very smart, i don't know if most would see that, while she brilliantly can eviscerate others ideas, rarely does she posit her own, and as a PR person, its not really her job to do so, but rather to point at others who have done
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 43 @ 0.02525 = 1.0858 BTC [+]
12:03 usagi mircea's biggest blind spot is that he and mpoe-pr do not understand PR at all.
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02525 BTC [+]
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4397 BTC [+]
12:04 truff1es lmao
12:04 fiat500 i thought the union was identical to the intersection? :P
12:04 usagi Erik voorhoes understands PR.
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0253 = 0.1012 BTC [-]
12:05 mircea_popescu the subject is now wheelbarrows.
12:05 mjr_ anyways, this all started because erik's talk on the attribute-based theory of money
12:05 usagi Bitcoin has been compared to digital gold before
12:05 truff1es erik should be PR
12:05 mjr_ which he may have made clear enough for some above average americans to understand
12:05 truff1es he's difused enough of their b.s.
12:05 usagi He should. if Erik was MPOE-PR things would be a lot better
12:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.549 = 5.098 BTC [+]
12:05 mircea_popescu yeah, the kid is smart.
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02539 = 0.0762 BTC [+]
12:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.54999 = 12.75 BTC [+]
12:06 mjr_ mircea_popescu: its not just that he's smart, he is smart enough to explain it to dumb people, thats the hard part
12:06 mircea_popescu yee
12:06 truff1es he's a kid?
12:06 truff1es haha
12:06 mjr_ i believe einstein said that
12:06 mjr_ if you're young at heart
12:06 mjr_ i suppose
12:07 truff1es doubt thats what was meant
12:07 mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/453/block-239905-difficulty-will-be-an-even-number/#c992
12:07 mircea_popescu da fuck is that you tell me ?
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.02539 = 0.3555 BTC [+]
12:08 usagi http://bitbet.us/bet/1/usagi-ftw/ you tell me
12:08 usagi I was really sad that the aliens exist bet got badbetted
12:08 kakobrekla mircea_popescu, ya but its not in color
12:08 kakobrekla aw fuck
12:08 kakobrekla its red.
12:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.551 = 7.653 BTC [+]
12:08 mircea_popescu dude.
12:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.552 BTC [+]
12:08 kakobrekla you know what that means
12:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 36 @ 0.02511 = 0.904 BTC [-]
12:10 pizzaman1337 "Better than Satoshidice, only 1% fee."
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025267 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.549 = 5.098 BTC [-]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549999 BTC [+]
12:11 mircea_popescu well ya but you gotta wait a few weeks
12:11 ericmuyser when u coulda had your satoshi in asicminer sitting on sweet divs
12:11 usagi Hmmmmmm
12:11 usagi Kakobrekla did you really allow that bet?
12:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 137 @ 0.0251 = 3.4387 BTC [-]
12:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0251 = 0.2259 BTC [-]
12:12 kakobrekla i dont touch that part
12:12 Diablo-D3 back
12:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02527 = 0.0758 BTC [+]
12:12 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
12:12 Diablo-D3 [10:02:15] <Scrat> why you cashing out D3
12:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02521 = 0.0756 BTC [-]
12:12 Diablo-D3 Scrat: because I might need it for DMC 2.0
12:13 Diablo-D3 [10:02:03] <fiat500> Diablo-D3: if you are selling that many, would you be interested in selling 80 to a colleague of mine?ç
12:13 Diablo-D3 why?
12:13 Chaang-Noi i see nothing wrong with allowing that bet, i find it sell however to bet on it
12:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02521 = 0.2773 BTC [-]
12:13 fiat500 Diablo-D3: never mind i found another seller :)
12:13 Chaang-Noi silly*
12:13 fiat500 the question of why is irrelevant i think, anyway
12:13 usagi Well, you could bet on the side with the least money maybe
12:13 fiat500 the guy wants to buy btc, do you want to examine his motives? lol
12:13 usagi like if its 13 to 10, bet on the 10 side
12:14 usagi It is a 'betting' site
12:14 Chaang-Noi yeah fair enough
12:14 usagi What purer form of bet is there than a coin toss? :)
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025269 = 0.0758 BTC [+]
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [-]
12:14 usagi I should probably buy more shares now
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0251 = 0.1004 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
12:14 mircea_popescu diablo only sells to guys with hot gfs.
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.025 = 0.375 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02495 = 0.0998 BTC [-]
12:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02495 BTC [-]
12:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 373 @ 0.0249 = 9.2877 BTC [-]
12:15 fiat500 sell sell sell
12:15 Chaang-Noi :)
12:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 217 @ 0.0249 = 5.4033 BTC [-]
12:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02511 = 0.1004 BTC [+]
12:16 fiat500 its actually smarter to sell before divs are issued, usually the peak point for the price
12:16 Chaang-Noi that is what i did last time
12:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.565 = 5.13 BTC [+]
12:16 Chaang-Noi got off more than a few around 2.7
12:16 topace dividends are alreayd released on havelock
12:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.566 = 5.132 BTC [+]
12:16 topace for ascim
12:16 fiat500 topace: but this selling is on btct
12:17 fiat500 (what i was talking about)
12:17 topace heh cant help it btct is slow :p
12:17 fiat500 blame ThickAsThieves :P
12:17 fiat500 !e
12:17 Chaang-Noi we do!
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02502 = 0.05 BTC [-]
12:18 fiat500 topace: can i get API access to havelock tickers somehow? im building a (free) data aggregator service
12:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.575 = 5.15 BTC [+]
12:18 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 9 @ 0.000749 = 0.0067 BTC [+]
12:18 fiat500 i could set up a bot in here to sit and watch but i am loathe to that idea
12:18 topace fiat500: yea https://www.havelockinvestments.com/apidoc.php
12:18 fiat500 thanks
12:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 400 @ 0.02501 = 10.004 BTC [-]
12:19 topace need to be logged in to see the docs i think, but the ticker api doesnt require auth
12:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02511 = 0.2511 BTC [+]
12:21 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.30994 = 2.1696 BTC [+]
12:21 fiat500 thanks topace thats exactly what i need
12:21 topace :)
12:21 topace the api isnt complete yet
12:21 fiat500 (well, streaming API would be great but i can work with this)
12:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02527 BTC [+]
12:22 topace but ticker stuff is all there
12:22 topace and basic account queries
12:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.574 BTC [-]
12:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02527 BTC [+]
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
12:24 fiat500 have lock, will trade
12:24 jcpham when does asicminer div come out again
12:24 jcpham is it mondays?
12:24 topace jcpham: today
12:24 topace already paid on havelock
12:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0248 = 0.0496 BTC [-]
12:25 jcpham oh
12:25 jcpham it's always on wednesdays
12:25 usagi I am really really suprised at how much MacOS reminds me of a well-oiled linux dist
12:25 jcpham ?
12:25 ericmuyser usagi: that's because it is
12:25 usagi Yeah well, not linux core, openstep I guess
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02497 = 0.1249 BTC [+]
12:26 usagi But on the surface of it, it's very close, feels very close
12:26 usagi It's just .. objective c.. why god, why?
12:26 fiat500 thanks TAT
12:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.5661 = 5.1322 BTC [-]
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02497 = 0.0749 BTC [+]
12:27 fiat500 usagi: objc is spectacular
12:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0251 = 0.0502 BTC [-]
12:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02535 BTC [+]
12:27 fiat500 its quite verbose yes, but with the right completion plugins in vim/subl it becomes irrelevant how verbose it is
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0252 = 0.1512 BTC [+]
12:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.0251 = 0.5271 BTC [-]
12:28 deadweasel http://www.coindesk.com/is-litecoin-the-new-bitcoin-alternative-for-investors/
12:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.566 = 5.132 BTC [-]
12:28 deadweasel the answer is no
12:28 usagi I prefer dot notation
12:29 fiat500 usagi: objc has dot notation
12:29 Diablo-D3 fiat500: go learn erlang
12:29 fiat500 Diablo-D3: i prefer SML
12:29 usagi but objc dot notation is not really the same thing as in c++ or java
12:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02535 = 0.2535 BTC [+]
12:29 usagi from what I hear anyway. I'm just learning it now.
12:29 fiat500 usagi: no its not the same
12:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0252 = 0.0504 BTC [+]
12:30 fiat500 thats not necessarily a bad thing however
12:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
12:30 Diablo-D3 <3 erlang
12:30 usagi What I really dislike about objective C is autoreleasepool blocks and/or [obj alloc] shit
12:30 fiat500 >_>
12:30 fiat500 if you dont like autorelease dont use it
12:31 fiat500 in fact, you should be using ARC and not think about that shit at all
12:31 usagi But then I need to do stuff like [[car alloc] init]
12:31 usagi And that will never make sense to me, it's laziness on the part of the compiler
12:31 fiat500 you know -new is a shortcut for -alloc + -init
12:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025341 BTC [-]
12:31 Diablo-D3 yeah what fiat500 said
12:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025341 = 0.1014 BTC [-]
12:31 Diablo-D3 also, I'd rather have seperate alloc and init for such languages
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0252999 = 0.0506 BTC [+]
12:32 fiat500 how is this a flaw of the compiler?
12:32 Diablo-D3 I write C that way frequently
12:32 fiat500 its a language implementation
12:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02511 = 0.1507 BTC [-]
12:32 Diablo-D3 I stack allocate structs frequently
12:32 usagi I actually prefer C++ to objective C
12:32 fiat500 usagi: have you heard of objc++? :P
12:32 Diablo-D3 fiat500: that thing is an abortion
12:32 fiat500 hahahahaha
12:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 54 @ 0.0251 = 1.3554 BTC [-]
12:32 fiat500 it is quite magical, but can be really ugly yes
12:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025341 BTC [+]
12:33 Diablo-D3 the only reason apple made it exist is so they could do c++ api interfacing easier
12:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02495 BTC [-]
12:33 fiat500 AHA
12:33 usagi Remember. Steve jobs was never really a tech or a programmer. He was a business jock and a socialite. Wozniak was the tech
12:33 fiat500 so this might be some interesting news guys
12:33 usagi and the programmers were hired
12:33 fiat500 just before the mtgox/coinlab suit news broke
12:33 Diablo-D3 usagi: yeah, but its a little more complex than that
12:33 usagi he went with objective C to piss everyone the fuck off and think different
12:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.0249 = 0.9711 BTC [-]
12:33 fiat500 i emailed coinlab asking to buy 300btc
12:33 fiat500 they got back to me 2 days later saying they couldnt take on any new clients
12:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025341 = 0.1014 BTC [+]
12:34 fiat500 i just got an email from their brokers saying they could now take my business
12:34 Chaang-Noi buy from me
12:34 usagi It isnt even used in academia anymore
12:34 Diablo-D3 usagi: actually, next went objc because it was easy to use and they had a hardon for smalltalk
12:34 ericmuyser ThickAsThieves: got divs on TAT on btct.co
12:34 usagi Smalltalk. Enough said
12:34 fiat500 i wonder what this means re: their agreement with gox
12:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.0253 = 0.2783 BTC [-]
12:34 usagi I'd rather use lisp
12:34 fiat500 Chaang-Noi: i already bought all the coins i want for the time being :P
12:34 Diablo-D3 usagi: yeah, theres really no reason not to use erlang at this point
12:34 Chaang-Noi :)
12:34 Diablo-D3 usagi: you cant just say "lisp" though
12:34 usagi I actually have a lisp
12:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0253 = 0.1265 BTC [-]
12:34 Diablo-D3 yes, exactly, you say lispth
12:34 jcpham fiat500 i think the lawsuit was coinlab's way of reciprocating the contract breakage
12:34 fiat500 anyway my point is that coinlab is taking on new customers now, so perhaps they reached a resolution with gox?
12:34 jcpham CYA
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [-]
12:35 fiat500 or things are getting worse, as jcpham says
12:35 fiat500 lol
12:35 Diablo-D3 things are getting worse
12:35 ericmuyser ThickAsThieves: you paid divs twice? http://o7.no/Zewt6n got the email twice too
12:35 Diablo-D3 er, how did TAT pay divs? they're not out yet, still stuck in limbo
12:35 fiat500 i also got 2 emails
12:35 topace heh thats not good
12:36 fiat500 Diablo-D3: he pays out of pocket sometimes
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
12:36 topace glad havelock paid out properly :p
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.025 = 0.775 BTC [-]
12:36 Diablo-D3 ahh
12:36 Diablo-D3 I never pay out of pocket.
12:37 ericmuyser TAT pays out of pocket and he pays twice. TAT's the man!
12:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0253 = 0.0506 BTC [-]
12:37 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: you paid out twice
12:37 ericmuyser I feel bad if he did, that could be quite the headache
12:37 fiat500 17 minutes apart
12:38 ericmuyser his first one turned to CANCELED before the second one, but then it changes to COMPLETED so it didn't really I guess
12:38 ericmuyser burnside halp haha
12:38 fiat500 lol
12:38 usagi java is the future
12:38 fiat500 usagi: plzno
12:38 usagi There's no denying it anymore
12:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
12:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
12:39 fiat500 my opinion on java is that it exists so that the weak minds have a language to use
12:39 Diablo-D3 java sucks for highly concurrent shared nothing programming
12:39 usagi Everything that isn't C or Java (and java is c-based) is some ridiculous startup that can't find a solid footing
12:39 fiat500 usagi: you mean imperative languages?
12:39 fiat500 objc is a startup now?
12:39 ericmuyser usagi: thought on JRuby?
12:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.025 = 0.225 BTC [-]
12:40 usagi Objective C is java based
12:40 fiat500 LMFAO
12:40 ericmuyser what??
12:40 fiat500 usagi: java is inspired by objc
12:40 fiat500 please review your history
12:40 usagi The thing is, JVM. JVM is not going to die
12:40 ThickAsThieves ugh
12:40 ThickAsThieves fucking BTCTC
12:40 ericmuyser :(
12:40 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: can you get your money back?
12:40 ericmuyser sucks dude
12:40 usagi JVM is the wave of the future even if java the language dies
12:40 fiat500 usagi: perhaps, scala is nice
12:40 Diablo-D3 usagi:its the vm thats a failure
12:41 Diablo-D3 I think java could succeed if the jvm was unfucked
12:41 usagi The VM is fast and memory efficient
12:41 Diablo-D3 the vm is slow and not memory efficient
12:41 Scrat ThickAsThieves: how much did you just spend on divs
12:41 usagi We're not living in 1999 anymore
12:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0253 BTC [-]
12:41 ericmuyser really dude? the JVM got srsly fast in the last few years
12:41 ericmuyser a lot of languages use it as a dropin replacement now
12:41 usagi Diablo, Java is going to win...
12:41 ericmuyser and I don't dig java
12:41 Scrat V8 > JVM
12:41 fiat500 13.84BTC x2
12:41 ericmuyser just sayin
12:42 fiat500 usagi: whats your angle
12:42 ericmuyser Scrat: mostly agree
12:42 Diablo-D3 ericmuyser: I maintain a java program, trust me, its not fast enough
12:42 fiat500 java is only good for programming interview quizzes
12:42 usagi You can use Java to create whatever language you need to code your project faster
12:42 fiat500 ok im done listening :P
12:42 ThickAsThieves BTCTC system is all fucktarded, basically it told me the first payout was successfully cancelled
12:42 ericmuyser usagi: start a 30 year bitbet on Java
12:42 ThickAsThieves and paid it out anyway.
12:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
12:43 Diablo-D3 usagi: troll harder.
12:43 usagi Look at the number of libraries available for Java. It is an OO resuse success story
12:43 Diablo-D3 usagi: YES LOOK AT THEM
12:43 Diablo-D3 THEY'RE SHIT
12:43 usagi Isn't it funny that the java library mess is used by OO advocates to say Java is shit? When the truth is, any OO success story would look the same
12:43 Scrat java could have been so much more
12:43 fiat500 Diablo-D3: hes either trolling or will eventually change his mind
12:43 Scrat Sun fucked it in the desktop
12:43 Diablo-D3 fiat500: hes trolling
12:43 fiat500 lol
12:43 Scrat oracle raped its dead corpse
12:43 Diablo-D3 he knows what language DiabloMiner is written in.
12:44 usagi Actually i don't
12:44 usagi C?
12:44 Diablo-D3 Java.
12:44 usagi Really?
12:44 Diablo-D3 So I am currently the only one here allowed to comment on how bad Java is.
12:44 Scrat even added the ask toolbar shitware on its desktop installer
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
12:44 Scrat shows how much they care
12:44 usagi Why is java bad then?
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.571 BTC [+]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0251 = 0.1255 BTC [-]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.571 BTC [+]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.572 BTC [+]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5734 BTC [+]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5734 BTC [+]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5735 BTC [+]
12:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.5738 = 5.1476 BTC [+]
12:44 fiat500 wowwaweewa
12:45 usagi Did you really write diablominer in Java? I don't believe it
12:45 usagi that's pretty screwed up lol
12:45 fiat500 lmfao
12:45 Diablo-D3 its badly engineered, it still suffers from a stop the world gc, its not sufficiently functional, it has no concept of lambda functions
12:45 Diablo-D3 it still doesnt have signed types
12:46 Diablo-D3 it doesnt have a green threads/fibers implementation
12:46 usagi I've never needed lambda functions and I've never had a problem with the GC
12:46 Diablo-D3 sun's jvm still doesnt use llvm as the backend
12:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
12:46 usagi Maybe I'm living in a bubble
12:46 Diablo-D3 usagi: you are
12:46 ericmuyser ThickAsThieves: sounds like burnside'll have to reverse the divs if the system allows a negative balance and he's willing to cause complication. seems like reimbursing you would be easier
12:46 Diablo-D3 try doing highly concurrent realtime apps
12:46 usagi The thing is, your problems seem theoretical.
12:46 fiat500 usagi: so youve never had to build anything real or useful yet
12:46 usagi In pracrtice it's not an issue.
12:46 Scrat you'll appreciate lambda functions when you code in node
12:46 Scrat inb4 D3 hate
12:46 usagi No it's an issue of how you code. You don't *need* lambda functions for anything, and once you define your problem domain your done.
12:47 ThickAsThieves reimbursing me would be easiest
12:47 usagi It'
12:47 ThickAsThieves no chance in hell eveyrone will return divs
12:47 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: 55k shares?
12:47 usagi It's like closures. When they introduce closures in J8 I still won't use them because I don't care
12:47 fiat500 burnside needs to intervene
12:47 Diablo-D3 https://soundcloud.com/blaketothefuture/nyan-cat-the-movie
12:47 ericmuyser ThickAsThieves: ya, he'd have to force it, and they could be out of TAT and out of btct.co already
12:47 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: the problem is a lot of people might have divs reinvestment set up
12:47 Diablo-D3 usagi: oh, and the jvm has no concept of TCO
12:47 ThickAsThieves 13.84310799btc
12:47 fiat500 how would you liquidate those?
12:48 usagi The thing I hate about Java is that you can reverse-engineer it so easily
12:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0249 = 0.1245 BTC [-]
12:49 usagi If your going to build a JVM you might as well have built a compiler, whats the effin diff
12:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.024901 = 0.498 BTC [-]
12:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.525004 BTC [-]
12:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 61 @ 0.0249 = 1.5189 BTC [-]
12:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0249 = 0.498 BTC [-]
12:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [-]
12:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [-]
12:50 jurov lol seems like bunch of folks will suddenly find out they have negative balance
12:50 jurov that's prolly the fastest way out
12:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0249 = 0.249 BTC [-]
12:51 jurov on btct
12:51 jurov (if it actually supports neg balance and won't overflow like mpex lol)
12:51 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: if you get in touch with burnside, can you ask him to process my 14btc withdrawal? i need thems
12:51 fiat500 :P
12:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.0249 = 0.6474 BTC [-]
12:52 ThickAsThieves lol
12:53 fiat500 you know ThickAsThieves alternatively, you can just withhold next week's divs or only pay out the difference
12:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.024818 = 1.3154 BTC [-]
12:53 ThickAsThieves no i cant
12:53 ThickAsThieves i'd have to freeze the asset
12:53 jborkl He would not know current shareholders
12:53 ericmuyser fiat500: kind of unfair
12:54 ThickAsThieves there are only 3 things that happen from here
12:54 fiat500 how is it unfair, you could consider this 2nd payout an early payout of next week's divs
12:54 ThickAsThieves 1. Burnside reimburses me and everyone gets a bonus
12:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025343 BTC [+]
12:54 ericmuyser fiat500: because people who are in now are not the same who are in next week necessarily
12:54 fiat500 oh, right
12:54 ThickAsThieves 2. Burnside puts negatives on the accounts and reimburses what he cant collect
12:54 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.002968 = 0.0089 BTC [+]
12:54 fiat500 crap
12:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.024818 = 0.7694 BTC [-]
12:54 ericmuyser fiat500: some guy *just gets in tomorrow* and he gets nothing?
12:54 ThickAsThieves 3. Burnside says sorry and fucks me out of 13btc
12:55 jborkl The simplest thing, ask Burnside to put up on the announcement wall please return excess div. See what happens
12:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.25 BTC [-]
12:55 ericmuyser my money is on #1
12:55 ThickAsThieves #1 would be easiest
12:55 jborkl If 80% comes back, that would be a win
12:56 jborkl then go from there
12:56 fiat500 considering it was probably a bug that caused this, #1 is the best option
12:56 ericmuyser and you found a bug in his system
12:56 usagi html5/javascript killed java anyways
12:56 ericmuyser it was absolutely a bug. saw it say canceled. did not work.
12:56 fiat500 however, i will reimburse you manually (its like 0.024 btc total, but the principle is important)
12:56 usagi and it will kill objective c and ruby and everything else anyone cares about
12:56 fiat500 if need be
12:56 usagi Javascript is the end of all things
12:56 ThickAsThieves for now i'm asking people to just hold onto the divs
12:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 8 @ 0.000749 = 0.006 BTC [+]
12:57 ThickAsThieves i have to wait for burnside before anything else can be done
12:57 ericmuyser usagi: wait didn't you just say java will win?
12:57 usagi and I hate javascript. We seriously need a Javascript++ soon
12:57 fiat500 lmfao
12:57 fiat500 hes a troll TAT
12:57 usagi Well if Java doesn't win it's javascript's fault
12:57 Diablo-D3 js fucking sucks
12:57 ericmuyser usagi: google did that already, Dart
12:57 usagi I hate javascript
12:57 Diablo-D3 Im somewhat supporting the asm.js effort though
12:57 Diablo-D3 a very minimal js syntax that basically illustrates a vm bytecode
12:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000768 = 0.0015 BTC [+]
12:57 Diablo-D3 so you just use compilers that output asm.js
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.02498 = 0.3747 BTC [+]
12:58 ericmuyser usagi: thing that makes js so powerful is the wide adoption, everyone knows it, it has existing compilers everwhere. u cant just drop replace that
12:58 usagi The thing that makes javascript so powerful is that it IS what Java was supposed to me.
12:58 usagi br*
12:58 usagi be*
12:58 usagi It's a WORA language running in a VM that is portable across anythig that is worth owning
12:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025343 = 0.0507 BTC [+]
12:59 usagi They ported quake 2 to javascript you know. It got 60 FPS on normal hardware quite a few years ago
13:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02498 = 0.0999 BTC [+]
13:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.025342 = 0.5068 BTC [-]
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025342 = 0.076 BTC [-]
13:01 fiat500 Diablo-D3: thought just crossed my mind, why do you need fiat for DMC 2.0?
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.02498 = 0.1998 BTC [+]
13:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5737 BTC [+]
13:03 fiat500 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-29/is-liberty-reserve-s-demise-bitcoin-s-gain-.html
13:04 Diablo-D3 fiat500: becaues the real world works in dollars.
13:04 fiat500 Diablo-D3: what do you need from the real world?
13:05 ericmuyser ya it's pretty obviously bitcoin's gain in the short term but do we really want money laundering's attraction? zzz
13:06 Diablo-D3 fiat500: you have no clue how business works, do you?
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.525201 BTC [-]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.525008 BTC [-]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.525 = 10.1 BTC [-]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.52202 BTC [-]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.511 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.501 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.5002 = 12.501 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5738 BTC [+]
13:08 jcpham <@assbot> +[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [-]
13:08 jcpham <@assbot> +[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5738 BTC [+]
13:08 jcpham wtf is that
13:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.025343 = 0.1774 BTC [+]
13:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025343 = 0.0507 BTC [+]
13:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 58 @ 0.025344 = 1.47 BTC [+]
13:09 ericmuyser someone sold 15 *into* the bids, and someone else didn't want to wait and bought *into* the sells
13:09 jcpham i know, its just old to see that spread
13:09 jcpham *odd
13:10 ericmuyser right before divs.. it's a weird time
13:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.025344 = 1.2672 BTC [+]
13:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025344 BTC [+]
13:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.025344 = 0.1521 BTC [+]
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02498 = 0.1499 BTC [+]
13:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025344 = 0.076 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02498 = 0.05 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025344 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 396 @ 0.00063 = 0.2495 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.000629 = 0.0126 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 200 @ 0.000628 = 0.1256 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000626 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5738 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 200 @ 0.000624 = 0.1248 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5739 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.000622 = 0.0012 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00062 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5739 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 500 @ 0.000613 = 0.3065 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.574 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00061 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.574 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.000604 = 0.0181 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.576 = 5.152 BTC [+]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.000602 = 0.012 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.000602 = 0.0181 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 5 @ 0.000601 = 0.003 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 245 @ 0.000601 = 0.1472 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 249 @ 0.0006 = 0.1494 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 450 @ 0.000592 = 0.2664 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000591 = 0.0059 BTC [-]
13:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 490 @ 0.000591 = 0.2896 BTC [-]
13:13 fiat500 jesu christe
13:14 ericmuyser wtf is going on
13:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.573799 BTC [-]
13:14 jcpham woohoo
13:14 Chaang-Noi market buy and market sell?
13:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00073829 = 2.2149 BTC [-]
13:14 ericmuyser that was a huge sell into the bids on bitvps i guess
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02498 = 0.05 BTC [+]
13:15 Chaang-Noi yeah
13:15 Chaang-Noi and at the same time someone bought a market buy of AM
13:15 usagi Looks like someone manipulating the markets.
13:16 fiat500 thats a bit of a stretch
13:16 usagi No, I have proof
13:16 fiat500 [proof]
13:16 usagi lol
13:16 fiat500 what is your proof :p
13:16 usagi I can't reveal my source.
13:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02498 = 0.0749 BTC [+]
13:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.025344 = 0.3295 BTC [+]
13:17 fiat500 why would anyone want to manipulate something as mundane as bitvps?
13:17 usagi Inside info
13:17 fiat500 rofl
13:17 usagi Just speculating.
13:17 fiat500 lemme guess, bitvps is about to launch an incredible new strategy, and they want to buy cheap shares
13:18 jurov my guess is that they are or will be subject to incredible ddos
13:18 jurov that will finally put them out of bsnss
13:18 fiat500 conspiracy: ddos operated by the koddos people
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02498 = 0.05 BTC [+]
13:19 jurov would that be horizontal or vertical expansion for koddos?
13:19 fiat500 diagonal
13:19 jurov not sure
13:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.02498 = 0.3247 BTC [+]
13:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.57799 = 7.734 BTC [+]
13:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.578 BTC [+]
13:22 ericmuyser jurov: circular
13:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.025343 = 0.2281 BTC [-]
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 22 @ 0.02498 = 0.5496 BTC [+]
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02498 BTC [+]
13:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025343 = 0.0507 BTC [-]
13:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025343 = 0.0507 BTC [-]
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 98 @ 0.02498 = 2.448 BTC [+]
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [+]
13:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025343 BTC [-]
13:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [+]
13:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.025343 = 0.2534 BTC [-]
13:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.025 = 0.475 BTC [+]
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [+]
13:33 Diablo-D3 usagi: ping
13:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025343 = 0.0507 BTC [-]
13:33 usagi why dont you send me a pm? :p
13:33 usagi I'm just about to go out.
13:33 Diablo-D3 meh fine
13:34 usagi what
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.025 = 0.25 BTC [+]
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.025 = 0.625 BTC [+]
13:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.025 = 0.075 BTC [+]
13:37 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker 550 * [ticker --last]
13:37 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
13:37 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker 550 * [[ticker --last]]
13:37 gribble Error: "129.68900" is not a valid command.
13:37 Diablo-D3 ;;calc 550 * [[ticker --last]]
13:37 gribble Error: "129.68900" is not a valid command.
13:37 Diablo-D3 ;;calc 550 * [ticker --last]
13:37 gribble 71328.95
13:37 Diablo-D3 there damnit.
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.025 = 2.5 BTC [+]
13:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025343 = 0.0507 BTC [-]
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.025 = 0.3 BTC [+]
13:42 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.30994 = 1.2398 BTC [+]
13:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [+]
13:45 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0253 BTC [-]
13:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0253 BTC [-]
13:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0253 = 0.0506 BTC [-]
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0251 = 0.1004 BTC [+]
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.0252 = 0.8316 BTC [+]
13:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025339 = 0.076 BTC [+]
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0252 = 0.3276 BTC [+]
13:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.576 = 7.728 BTC [-]
13:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.577 BTC [+]
14:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.560001 BTC [-]
14:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.56 = 15.36 BTC [-]
14:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.025299 = 0.1518 BTC [+]
14:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02511 = 0.0502 BTC [-]
14:09 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.30995 = 1.8597 BTC [+]
14:10 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.309997 = 0.93 BTC [+]
14:10 Chaang-Noi ;;asks 130
14:10 gribble There are currently 464.31805 bitcoins offered at or under 130.0 USD, worth 60360.8738333 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0124 seconds
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.025298 = 0.1012 BTC [-]
14:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2011 @ 0.0251 = 50.4761 BTC [-]
14:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025011 = 0.05 BTC [-]
14:15 ThickAsThieves dang thats a biggun
14:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0252 = 0.0504 BTC [+]
14:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
14:16 fiat500 that was a big bid...
14:16 fiat500 oh wait, its the 100PT
14:16 fiat500 i thought 2011 @ full share price lmfao
14:16 ThickAsThieves hehe
14:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.575 BTC [+]
14:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.576 = 5.152 BTC [+]
14:17 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.64 = 1.92 BTC [+]
14:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
14:18 fiat500 i wonder whats gonna happen when basic-mining buys those AM shares
14:19 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002967 BTC [-]
14:19 fiat500 wont find out til june 4th i guess
14:20 ThickAsThieves whats his budget?
14:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.535 BTC [-]
14:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0252 = 0.0504 BTC [+]
14:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0252 = 0.252 BTC [+]
14:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.025011 = 0.7003 BTC [-]
14:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
14:25 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [-]
14:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025001 BTC [+]
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.0252 = 1.0332 BTC [+]
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025298 BTC [+]
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.025298 = 0.8854 BTC [+]
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025298 BTC [+]
14:40 mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188735.msg2306172#msg2306172 lol
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.025298 = 1.2649 BTC [+]
14:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00073673 = 9.2091 BTC [-]
14:45 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0252 = 0.0504 BTC [+]
14:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0253 = 0.1265 BTC [+]
14:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.572 BTC [+]
14:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.572 = 5.144 BTC [+]
14:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0253 BTC [+]
14:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 2.5729 = 28.3019 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02529 = 0.2529 BTC [-]
14:50 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: he wants to buy 200 shares
14:50 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.64 = 1.28 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.025299 = 0.7337 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5729 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.0253 = 0.3289 BTC [+]
14:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0252 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
14:50 ThickAsThieves best place is jutarul at this point
14:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.0253 = 1.012 BTC [+]
14:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 2.573 = 18.011 BTC [+]
14:51 ThickAsThieves but if he's sold out tell him to make me an offer
14:51 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: 200 of ASICMINER-PT
14:51 ThickAsThieves why not buy direct?
14:51 fiat500 is the current proposal
14:51 fiat500 he wants to do it on btct
14:51 ThickAsThieves jutarul is selling at 2.5
14:51 ThickAsThieves he can move em to BTCTC after
14:51 fiat500 he should buy direct and move yes
14:52 fiat500 motion looks like it will pass
14:52 ThickAsThieves otherwise i can give him a better price than AM-PT
14:52 ThickAsThieves if he's interested
14:52 fiat500 why dont you pm him?
14:52 ThickAsThieves who?
14:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0253 BTC [+]
14:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.0253 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
14:52 fiat500 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36667
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025298 BTC [+]
14:53 fiat500 it is in my best interest as an AM-PT shareholder on btct of course, if he buys from there
14:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0251 = 0.0753 BTC [-]
14:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
14:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
14:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [-]
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.025 = 0.75 BTC [-]
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02505 BTC [+]
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 32 @ 0.02504 = 0.8013 BTC [-]
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02503 = 0.2253 BTC [-]
14:55 ThickAsThieves yeah but it's silly to overpay
14:55 fiat500 grasping at straws really, spending 500btc to make 5.6btc per week
14:55 ThickAsThieves i have shares of all types
14:55 fiat500 assuming AM maintains current payout levels
14:55 ThickAsThieves AM is still the best payout out there
14:55 fiat500 this is what they call having more money than sense
14:56 fiat500 basic's market cap is 2400 btc ffs
14:56 ThickAsThieves even if AM only pays .015/week, and he pays 2.6 per share,
14:56 ThickAsThieves thats still 2.5% monthly
14:56 ThickAsThieves hard to beat
14:57 fiat500 true, but then why bother with basic at all, it becomes a passthrough of a passthrough
14:58 fiat500 even worse really, because only 20% of market cap is being invested in AM
14:59 mircea_popescu <ThickAsThieves> AM is still the best payout out there << not really.
14:59 mircea_popescu depends how you calculate your amortisation.
15:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.025297 = 0.1012 BTC [+]
15:00 fiat500 mircea_popescu: this is bitcoin, everyone is amortising over a period of time long enough such that cost is effectively 0
15:00 mircea_popescu oic. nm then
15:00 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01699 BTC [+]
15:01 fiat500 :P
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025297 BTC [+]
15:01 ThickAsThieves i'm really not sure how much AM will depreciate over time
15:01 ThickAsThieves it's just not a normal mining stock
15:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0253 = 0.1265 BTC [+]
15:01 ThickAsThieves yes commoditization is imminent
15:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.025297 = 0.1771 BTC [+]
15:02 fiat500 i think mircea_popescu is saying you should take opportuniy cost into account
15:02 ThickAsThieves but they could lead that if they play their cards right
15:02 fiat500 (or, i am, anyway)
15:03 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves historically, every single mining stock was, in its heyday, "just not a normal mining stock"
15:03 mircea_popescu similarly, every 19yo is "just not another normal fat middle aged woman"
15:03 mircea_popescu sure.
15:03 fiat500 lmao
15:03 ThickAsThieves has there ever been a mining stock that sold hardware at retail?
15:03 mircea_popescu actually, yes.
15:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.025295 = 0.253 BTC [-]
15:04 ThickAsThieves who?
15:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 83 @ 0.0253 = 2.0999 BTC [+]
15:04 mircea_popescu depends on your definitions, but fpga people sold fpgas and gpu people sold gpus
15:04 ThickAsThieves you mean used hardware in very small qty?
15:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.025297 = 0.0759 BTC [+]
15:05 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.01049 = 0.042 BTC [+]
15:05 ThickAsThieves or?
15:05 mircea_popescu "very small"
15:05 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 78 @ 0.002711 = 0.2115 BTC [-]
15:05 mircea_popescu if you go by %s am sales are very small, moreso than gpu sales
15:05 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 40 @ 0.010499 = 0.42 BTC [+]
15:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.7 BTC [-]
15:06 ThickAsThieves so you are saying AM is no different than a GPU mining farm selling off it's used cards?
15:06 mircea_popescu is it ?
15:06 ThickAsThieves of course it is
15:06 mircea_popescu how ?
15:06 ThickAsThieves they are a hardware manufacturer
15:06 mircea_popescu not really.
15:06 mircea_popescu they're just ordering some parts from a manufacturer
15:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025299 BTC [-]
15:06 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 3 @ 0.01699 = 0.051 BTC [+]
15:06 ThickAsThieves is apple not a phone manufacturer?
15:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10901 BTC [+]
15:07 mircea_popescu indeed not. it just markets the phones.
15:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1099 = 0.4396 BTC [+]
15:07 fiat500 eh, dicey
15:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.109988 = 0.22 BTC [+]
15:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 43 @ 0.109999 = 4.73 BTC [+]
15:07 ThickAsThieves ok, let me broaden
15:07 fiat500 apple's cost of producing a phone is a lot higher than foxconn's cost
15:07 ThickAsThieves are not all phones made from pieces sourced from other manufacturers?
15:07 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves but for the record, this is very much dependent on where you draw the lines
15:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025299 = 0.0506 BTC [-]
15:07 fiat500 samsung OTOH /is/ a manufacturer
15:07 mircea_popescu im not presentin this as an absolute truth or anything
15:07 ThickAsThieves you are presenting it as a large consideration
15:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.025297 = 0.3795 BTC [+]
15:08 mircea_popescu for my own needs.
15:08 ThickAsThieves that AM is no better than a mining farm of GPUs
15:08 mircea_popescu that it's not structurally different
15:08 mircea_popescu that was our contention.
15:08 ThickAsThieves to what effective point?
15:08 mircea_popescu ikr?
15:08 ThickAsThieves you trollin me?
15:08 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.000672 = 0.672 BTC [-]
15:08 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 95 @ 0.01699 = 1.6141 BTC [+]
15:08 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0177 = 0.0885 BTC [+]
15:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025299 = 0.1012 BTC [-]
15:08 mircea_popescu not rly.
15:08 ThickAsThieves lol
15:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.024 = 0.096 BTC [-]
15:09 ThickAsThieves i think the possibility that AM will be more than a flash in the pan is quite real
15:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025299 = 0.0759 BTC [+]
15:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0253 BTC [+]
15:09 fiat500 well played burnside, canceled my withdrawal and decided to buy goodies from btct instead
15:09 ThickAsThieves hehe
15:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 77 @ 0.025298 = 1.9479 BTC [+]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.024 = 0.096 BTC [-]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.0253 = 0.4807 BTC [+]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0253 = 0.0759 BTC [+]
15:11 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves perhaps. even so, in the mining market returns are made out of a capital amortisation part and an actual return part
15:12 ThickAsThieves do you think Friedcat and his team might be able to stay in front of the wave and dominate the hardware sales?
15:12 wao hmmm ^
15:12 wao interesting
15:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025299 BTC [-]
15:13 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves in a word, no.
15:13 mircea_popescu but for a limited period, likely.
15:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 119 @ 0.025298 = 3.0105 BTC [+]
15:14 ThickAsThieves for example, I believe BFL claims they have a few hundred boards coming in next week,
15:14 ThickAsThieves it will be quite easy for AM to front-run them
15:14 ThickAsThieves if the choose to
15:14 ThickAsThieves they*
15:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02501 BTC [-]
15:15 ThickAsThieves I guess BFL owes preorders
15:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.57 BTC [-]
15:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025004 = 0.125 BTC [-]
15:15 ThickAsThieves so new orders are a non-issue
15:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0253 = 0.759 BTC [+]
15:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.64 = 1.92 BTC [+]
15:15 ThickAsThieves and all these Avalon chip orders are months away
15:16 ThickAsThieves gen2 AM boards are already in the works
15:16 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: this is all short term still
15:16 fiat500 what about 2015?
15:16 ThickAsThieves and next-gen USB miners will use those chips
15:16 ThickAsThieves i dont see 2015 affected share price in the short term
15:16 fiat500 2020?
15:17 ThickAsThieves 2020 might as well be 3020 in bitcoin
15:17 ThickAsThieves so many things will change
15:18 ThickAsThieves it will be up to AM to stay agile
15:18 ThickAsThieves it wont get easier
15:18 ThickAsThieves thats certain
15:19 fiat500 the usb miners are 300MH/s right?
15:20 ThickAsThieves 330
15:21 fiat500 so a million of those would be 300TH/s total
15:21 fiat500 er 330
15:21 fiat500 not a bad move on their part
15:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.025298 = 0.0759 BTC [+]
15:22 ThickAsThieves i dont think theyve sold the 1st production batch out yet though
15:22 fiat500 those miners are useless but if they can sell enough of them
15:22 ThickAsThieves ot was 20,000 pieces at 2btc ea
15:22 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.57 BTC [-]
15:22 fiat500 yeah thats absolutely ridiculous, but even if they sold them at 0.1btc (what i think they're really worth) they would still make a killing
15:23 ThickAsThieves I think you can see startegy in how they sell
15:23 ThickAsThieves first they test top price
15:23 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0253 BTC [+]
15:23 ThickAsThieves then they reduce minimum qty
15:23 ThickAsThieves then they add bulk discounts
15:24 fiat500 right now people would die for fast hashers with low power draw in hand
15:24 ThickAsThieves next youll probably see price reductions
15:24 fiat500 but thats not going to last forever
15:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.025005 = 0.5001 BTC [-]
15:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.569 BTC [-]
15:25 fiat500 who the hell is friedcat anyway
15:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02539 BTC [+]
15:26 ericmuyser god
15:26 ericmuyser read the bible, why dontcha
15:27 ericmuyser matthew 5.12, and friedcat shall reign supreme over mortals with his asic invention
15:27 fiat500 "invention"
15:27 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves bfl is not the point tho
15:27 mircea_popescu the major players aren't really known, i suspect.
15:28 ThickAsThieves quite possible
15:28 mircea_popescu course i guess it's possible bitfury ppl actually deliver
15:28 mircea_popescu whether they do or they don't, the major players will be of that sort. one day he says hi
15:28 mircea_popescu the next day mpex is there
15:28 ThickAsThieves hehe
15:28 mircea_popescu six months later glbse is dead
15:28 mircea_popescu who could have known this o woe o noe
15:28 ThickAsThieves and the next next day i have 3 new PTs open
15:28 ThickAsThieves :)
15:28 mircea_popescu hehehe
15:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 27 @ 0.02539 = 0.6855 BTC [+]
15:29 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/450/bitfurys-asic-will-work-with-power-1/
15:29 mircea_popescu actually that closes in about a week
15:29 mircea_popescu so i guess there's no publicevent.
15:30 fiat500 "Initiated by Bitfury, who placed the first Yes bet."
15:30 fiat500 ouch
15:30 fiat500 "(this specifically excludes known shills such as Luke-jr)"
15:31 fiat500 lmfao... why do they need to name names?
15:31 ThickAsThieves because he knows we like the drama
15:31 mircea_popescu well if nobody names names...
15:31 jcpham where do i buy bitfurries at
15:32 fiat500 one would think a company producing millions of dollars worth of hardware would be above calling out trolls on forums in public
15:32 mircea_popescu anyway, that guy was talking of up to 22 peta hash under 1watt/gh
15:32 pigeons jcpham: gotta catch em all
15:32 mircea_popescu it'll be something like that
15:32 fiat500 especially in a context outside the forum...
15:33 fiat500 mircea_popescu: so all he bet was 1btc?
15:33 ericmuyser fiat500: he says he's only loosely affiliated, completely remote, just contracting for them
15:33 mircea_popescu fiat500 nah, 100
15:33 ericmuyser not really "a company"
15:33 ericmuyser just a single russian dude getting his kicks
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.0254299 = 0.3052 BTC [+]
15:34 mircea_popescu i guess he could be throwing 100 btc in the wind just for the fun of it.
15:34 fiat500 i have about 20btc in 100TH, i should bet against him on bitbet to hedge
15:34 ThickAsThieves probly
15:34 ThickAsThieves ;)
15:35 ericmuyser if he placed some of the 95 btc bets then he almost breaks even
15:35 mircea_popescu ericmuyser i guess that's possible. tho i doubt it's him, because of the time
15:36 ThickAsThieves it's all mp
15:36 ericmuyser mircea_popescu: so now i know how to game you :)
15:36 fiat500 so, re: the bug i discovered on coinbase earlier today, just got a response from them
15:36 mircea_popescu lol k
15:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.569 BTC [-]
15:36 fiat500 "Thanks for pointing this out! We'll work on fixing this bug when we get a change."
15:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.57 = 10.28 BTC [+]
15:36 ThickAsThieves :)
15:36 fiat500 like, a diaper change?
15:36 mircea_popescu ahahah fiat500 send them a pic of a quarter
15:36 ericmuyser no but honestly I think he's got it, he'll announce within 2 days or has shared it with a "respected" member
15:36 fiat500 LMFAO mircea_popescu
15:37 mircea_popescu ericmuyser possible. i'd be muchly curious to see a <1gh/w chip
15:37 mircea_popescu the thing bfl was going to do, actually done. by teh russianz/jooz/etc
15:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02529 = 0.2276 BTC [+]
15:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.02522 = 0.6305 BTC [-]
15:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02501 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.566 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.54 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.537 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5361 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 2.535003 = 15.21 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.535 = 5.07 BTC [-]
15:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 2.53 = 20.24 BTC [-]
15:45 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
15:46 jurov jcpham, there is a russian thread about "bitfury predzakazy" that means "preorders"
15:46 fiat500 so the russians, the chinese, and the americans
15:46 jurov but i was too lazy to read it all with my lazy russian
15:46 mircea_popescu no americans.
15:46 fiat500 aint that some shit
15:46 mircea_popescu it's kinda funny how many foreign languages teh mericans suddenly have to learn these days
15:47 mircea_popescu sucks to have failed government after failed government after failed government huh.
15:47 fiat500 murrkah the beautiful
15:47 truff1es f yea
15:49 peterl If only we could get rid of the stupid government so we could enjoy our beautiful country in peace :(
15:49 jcpham but i like my roads paved
15:49 truff1es and broken bridges
15:50 peterl You can have paved roads without terrorizing the world and shutting down trade within/from your country
15:50 jcpham i don't have much experiences with decaying metropoli
15:50 peterl take a look in Detroit, it is a nicely decaying city
15:50 jcpham i think it's funny that the citites of man today die without maintenance though
15:50 truff1es why arent ppl getting fired from govt
15:51 jcpham cities are bad new when the zombies come
15:51 peterl At least in Detroit, all the people who care move out
15:51 jcpham bad ju ju
15:52 peterl I like to do my part, so I tell all my friends to vote Justin Amash for US Senate!
15:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.569 = 7.707 BTC [+]
15:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.57 BTC [+]
15:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.569 BTC [-]
15:53 truff1es shouldnt some1 loose a job if theyre is now a hole in bridge?
15:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
15:53 mircea_popescu who's justin amash and what's this senate
15:53 jcpham the senate signs the laws the pacs tell them to
15:53 mircea_popescu a ok
15:54 jcpham the pacs decide based on money
15:54 jcpham it's pretty easy to follow once you get the hang of it
15:54 jurov truff1es they lost the job preemptively before
15:54 mircea_popescu sounds like this amash guy will change everything then.
15:55 jurov btw mircea_popescu i read your polit party article and quite don't understand it
15:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.5699 BTC [+]
15:55 mircea_popescu aha ?
15:55 jurov so you couln't find a business owner in timisoara that accepts the ideas
15:56 mircea_popescu mno.
15:56 jurov but despite such you plan to end up in parliament somehow?
15:56 mircea_popescu they couldn't, apparently.
15:56 peterl Justin Amash is currently in the US House (They also write the laws), he is one of the people fighting against American Imperialism, he has said he is considering running for Senate
15:56 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.002661 = 0.0532 BTC [-]
15:56 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002661 BTC [-]
15:56 truff1es oh another Rand Paul?
15:57 mircea_popescu jurov wouldn't be the first time a bunch of kids with no resources and no management fail to accomplish that which they could easily do, with resources and with management.
15:57 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00266 BTC [-]
15:57 truff1es i.e. career politicians gl
15:57 peterl During the two years they were in the house together, Amash had the voting record most similar to Ron Paul
15:57 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.002569 = 0.0051 BTC [-]
15:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.57 = 5.14 BTC [+]
15:58 truff1es oops Rand is the son..
15:58 peterl So, if he gets to the Senate, then Amash would be another Rand Paul
15:58 jurov mircea_popescu i know, here we actually have new bunch of kids every election with VERY funny party names. but they actually do have some support somewhere
15:59 truff1es Rand Paul says a few sane things and then its just wtf moments everytime
15:59 mircea_popescu i re-wrote their principles, they liked it, if they stick to it they'll take over
15:59 mircea_popescu the country.
15:59 jurov if you search for hints how the parties were named: "Alliance of New Citizen" - they had "YES" abbreviation in Slovak
15:59 jurov then we have "Direction"
16:00 jurov then "Freedom and Solidarity"
16:00 truff1es yall sound like a bunch of idealists..
16:00 jurov yes. looking forward to next time, it's fun here
16:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.569 = 5.138 BTC [-]
16:02 truff1es i def wouldnt want mp anywhere near politics, he'd just run things like a dictatorship..
16:02 peterl link to polit party article?
16:02 jurov oh and almost forgot "Ordinary Citizens and Independent Persona"
16:02 jurov the best one
16:02 peterl truffles: and that would be different from the currenct situation?
16:03 jurov peterl http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/romanias-new-right/
16:03 peterl thanks
16:03 truff1es so fighting for more of the same standard
16:03 jcpham hopefully freedom works beeter for romania than it did in the west
16:04 mircea_popescu jcpham has so far, past coupla decades.
16:04 jcpham socio economically speaking
16:04 truff1es i like that some countries they actually get emotional and fight in chambers heh
16:04 jurov freedom + eu grants. works wonderfully :D
16:04 mircea_popescu jurov romania is actually a net contributor to the eu.
16:05 Diablo-D3 http://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/exclusive-the-first-pictures-of-blood-from-a-10000-year-old-siberian-woolly-mammoth/
16:05 Diablo-D3 lol
16:05 jcpham freedom in the west has more to do with military dominance than i suspect anyone else thinks about
16:05 peterl US is a third world shit-hole already?
16:05 mircea_popescu yes.
16:05 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.002967 = 0.0237 BTC [+]
16:05 ThickAsThieves yeah, you should see my house, rather, hut
16:05 mircea_popescu lol
16:05 jcpham i've lived in a fale hut
16:05 jcpham in .ws
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 118 @ 0.0254299 = 3.0007 BTC [+]
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 282 @ 0.02543 = 7.1713 BTC [+]
16:06 jcpham no running water, prepaid electricity
16:06 jurov ThickAsThieves: it's actually from brick/concrete like in 1st world?
16:06 fiat500 lmfao
16:06 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves just be sure you don't drive with any cash on you in any of the countless counties where the police raids the highways.
16:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
16:06 ThickAsThieves what is this "cash" you speak of?
16:06 mircea_popescu no money in the 3rd world huh.
16:07 fiat500 lmfao
16:07 jcpham cash is used for terrorism
16:07 jcpham and cp
16:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.568 = 10.272 BTC [-]
16:07 ThickAsThieves mostly I trade in slaves and animals
16:07 fiat500 "and"
16:07 jurov and in debt
16:07 ThickAsThieves :)
16:07 jcpham well slaves are fine
16:07 mircea_popescu this conversation is going well.
16:07 ThickAsThieves sorry
16:07 jcpham fractional reserve feeds the slaves ina lot of places
16:08 fiat500 rofl
16:08 ThickAsThieves i'm no fan of the US path, but calling it 3rd world is stretch, no?
16:08 mircea_popescu so btw, can you open a lemonade stand where you are ?
16:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.0252 = 0.9576 BTC [+]
16:08 jcpham i mean basically fractional banking is basically sharecropping
16:08 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves some people have big cocks. whatever they go into, they stretch.
16:08 jcpham in the long term
16:08 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: did anything notable happen on may 14th to AM?
16:08 mircea_popescu from what i hear the whatever enjoys it.
16:08 ThickAsThieves i'm in north florida, which is basically south Georgia
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02543 BTC [+]
16:09 jcpham hahaha
16:09 ThickAsThieves so lemonade stands are okay
16:09 mircea_popescu no wonder you can afford teh internet.
16:09 ThickAsThieves but black people get pulled over regularly
16:09 jcpham i'm black and i never get pulled over
16:10 ThickAsThieves we have garage sales too
16:10 ThickAsThieves i dont even report them on my taxes
16:10 ThickAsThieves it's the rebel in me
16:10 mircea_popescu May 29 01:30:01 <fiat500>so many shitty neighborhoods didnt get fiber because the community was like "wtf we dont even have a computer at home"
16:10 mircea_popescu from my ever bountiful logs
16:10 ThickAsThieves sad
16:10 ThickAsThieves all that untapped fiber
16:11 fiat500 btw lol you guys think AM is pricey, there is an ltc stock that costs 174LTC
16:11 ThickAsThieves yeah
16:11 ThickAsThieves that stock,
16:11 ThickAsThieves gets divs from BTCTC
16:11 ThickAsThieves so infalted due to AM too
16:11 ThickAsThieves inflated*
16:12 ThickAsThieves it's basically ownership in BTCTC
16:12 fiat500 divs are nothing special however
16:12 fiat500 price looks inflated 1000% to me
16:12 ThickAsThieves probably cuz no one wants to sell
16:12 fiat500 lol
16:12 fiat500 mini deflationary spiral
16:12 ThickAsThieves the shares also have voting rights
16:12 ThickAsThieves for new assets
16:13 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: so what happened on may 14th
16:13 ThickAsThieves Deprived
16:13 Ukto ?
16:13 Ukto what about him
16:13 ThickAsThieves I think he recently dealt some ltcglobal shares
16:13 ThickAsThieves for profit
16:13 fiat500 i mean with AM
16:13 ThickAsThieves oh
16:13 ThickAsThieves what are you referring to?
16:14 fiat500 that when the 1.5btc consolidation completed and we saw the beginning of the rise to 2+ btc
16:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.531001 BTC [-]
16:14 peterl about that time AsicMiner announced increased size
16:14 ThickAsThieves what happened was a huge dividend
16:14 ThickAsThieves .0362
16:14 ThickAsThieves more than triple the previous high
16:14 jurov ftfy: huge double dividend
16:14 fiat500 ah, announced a day before, giving people time to buy in
16:15 peterl and the sale of the blades for huge amounts
16:15 ThickAsThieves lol
16:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0252 = 0.1008 BTC [+]
16:15 ThickAsThieves double divs hea, come n get em!
16:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
16:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.0252 = 0.4788 BTC [+]
16:19 fiat500 what does AM have coming after the sale of these usb miners?
16:20 ThickAsThieves more blades, nextgen chips, nextgen USBs
16:20 ThickAsThieves and i bet some other surprises
16:22 ll we'll find out tomorrow i guess
16:24 ericmuyser ThickAsThieves: ever the speculator
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4222 = 2.111 BTC [-]
16:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [+]
16:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00073673 = 5.5991 BTC [-]
16:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11104 @ 0.00073829 = 8.198 BTC [+]
16:36 ThickAsThieves [16:24] <ericmuyser> ThickAsThieves: ever the speculator <<< just trying to help ;)
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.0105 = 0.084 BTC [+]
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02543 = 0.0509 BTC [+]
16:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.02543 = 0.2543 BTC [+]
16:42 fiat500 ll: tomorrow?
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 110 @ 0.000671 = 0.0738 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 49 @ 0.00067 = 0.0328 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 75 @ 0.000668 = 0.0501 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000664 = 0.0332 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 639 @ 0.000663 = 0.4237 BTC [-]
16:44 ll weekly update from friedcat
16:44 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 13 @ 0.000663 = 0.0086 BTC [-]
16:45 Luke-Jr fiat500: wtf? does that site not audit bets at all?
16:46 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.108 = 0.54 BTC [-]
16:46 Luke-Jr or is it run by a troll or something?
16:46 fiat500 Luke-Jr: it does, i just dont think it cares about ad hominem attacks if the bet itself fits the rules
16:46 fiat500 lol
16:47 Luke-Jr fiat500: the bet is automatically false if it depends on false statements…
16:47 fiat500 i could argue that the choice of not using you does not affect the outcome
16:47 Luke-Jr in this case, I'd guess my confirming it would make it ambiguous
16:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
16:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.02502 = 0.8257 BTC [-]
16:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.025011 = 0.8754 BTC [-]
16:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025005 BTC [-]
16:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.025002 = 0.7501 BTC [-]
16:48 fiat500 more to the point, what does bitfury have against you?
16:48 Luke-Jr Is this confirmed? "Initiated by Bitfury, who placed the first Yes bet."
16:48 Luke-Jr fiat500: good question, if that is true
16:48 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003 BTC [+]
16:49 fiat500 theres 100btc there, so if it isnt them, someone a) really believes in them and b) doesnt like you very much
16:49 mircea_popescu obviously enough, a known liar will be publicly despised.
16:49 mircea_popescu why's this so surprising Luke-Jr ?
16:49 mircea_popescu should have thought through the consequences before rather than deplore them after.
16:50 jcpham what's a bitfury?
16:50 dub wat bet?
16:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.025002 = 0.35 BTC [-]
16:50 fiat500 http://bitbet.us/bet/450/bitfurys-asic-will-work-with-power-1/
16:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.559 BTC [+]
16:51 Luke-Jr mircea_popescu: shoo troll
16:51 mircea_popescu glwt.
16:52 Luke-Jr "MPOE-PR is a representative of MPEX who also operate BitBet"
16:52 Luke-Jr aha, so mircea_popescu added the slander
16:52 fiat500 LOL, nice conspiracy theory
16:52 jcpham ooh i might get in on that
16:52 mircea_popescu i should sell tickets.
16:52 mircea_popescu "yet another butthurt Bitcoin fraudster throws a fit. come one, come all"
16:53 fiat500 Luke-Jr: out of curiosity, what makes this a scam?
16:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00073535 = 2.4634 BTC [-]
16:53 jcpham bitfury's fpga rack used _a lot_ of power iirc
16:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9134 @ 0.00073502 = 6.7137 BTC [-]
16:53 dub fiat500: dude stop
16:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.02519 = 0.3023 BTC [+]
16:53 Luke-Jr fiat500: being run by mircea_popescu who is clearly unstable
16:53 fiat500 thats not a scam
16:53 jborkl fiat500 please stop
16:53 fiat500 aight
16:53 Luke-Jr fiat500: perhaps I should rename my list to "sites likely to rip me off"
16:53 dub there is nothing to be gained by engaging luke-jr in dialogue
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 38 @ 0.025428 = 0.9663 BTC [-]
16:54 fiat500 doesn't seem to be very intelligent
16:54 mircea_popescu perhaps it should be named "evil lizzards from outer space", that list.
16:54 deadweasel reptilian scoundrels, the lot!
16:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.558 BTC [-]
16:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02519 = 0.0756 BTC [+]
16:55 deadweasel for the record, mp seems to have had the most unwavering viewpoints I
16:55 Luke-Jr fiat500: this channel is like half (at least) trolls FYI
16:55 deadweasel 've encountered yet in bitcoin
16:55 fiat500 i am a troll
16:55 Luke-Jr oh
16:55 Luke-Jr nevermind then
16:55 mircea_popescu yeah. this channel is ~half trolls and ~half all the BTC in circulation.
16:55 mircea_popescu which half is which is left as an exercise to the reader.
16:55 fiat500 but i have no stakes in any of this, so i can look at this situation impartially and say you need to re-evaluate things
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.02519 = 1.0076 BTC [+]
16:56 Luke-Jr fiat500: sounds like you just need to spend a few months getting to know the trolls here :p
16:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.558 BTC [-]
16:56 jborkl no, he will not. You do not understand - it is a pointless conversation fiat500
16:56 jborkl there is nothing to be gained by engaging in dialouge
16:57 mircea_popescu jborkl not even lulz ?
16:57 deadweasel except a dialogue
16:57 dub lulz were had, its over now
16:57 mircea_popescu this is also true.
16:57 dub luke is a crazy scary person
16:57 dub leave it alone
16:57 jborkl Yeah that was last year lulz
16:57 mircea_popescu dub who unlike us actually procreates.
16:58 fiat500 i am continually impressed by the sheer volume of drama produced on the forum
16:58 mircea_popescu fiat500 bitcoin is backed by drama and lulz.
16:58 fiat500 sure looks like it
16:58 dub mircea_popescu: I'd be suprised if luke-spawn reached maturity
16:58 mircea_popescu come to think about it... ripple is backed by bad accounting.
16:58 mircea_popescu dub physical or mental you mean ?
16:58 dub either
16:59 jborkl come to think about it... ripple is backed by bad accounting. - major lulz
16:59 fiat500 doesnt tradefortress have 1 trillion btc on ripple?
16:59 mircea_popescu no, he lent bernanke some.
16:59 mircea_popescu he has about fiddy billion left now.
16:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.557 BTC [-]
17:00 fiat500 creation of wealth out of thin air, sounds familiar
17:00 jborkl Ripple destroy each other - there is a ripple and a anti-ripple
17:00 mircea_popescu let's call it the dipple.
17:01 fiat500 i would have gone with nipple
17:01 jborkl dipple - that is the bagholder
17:01 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.003 = 0.018 BTC [+]
17:01 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.02518 = 1.0072 BTC [-]
17:02 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.0033 = 0.0132 BTC [+]
17:03 truff1es everyone wants some nipple now and again
17:04 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.003489 = 0.0384 BTC [+]
17:04 jborkl No one collects these amounts. They are simply destroyed within the network. The effect is the same as redistributing them evenly to all the Ripple account holders in proportion to their balance.
17:04 jborkl straight fromm rippple
17:04 mircea_popescu this design is so inept...
17:05 mircea_popescu so let's for the sake of absurdism admit it ever gets used.
17:05 mircea_popescu you know for a fact that no more than X txs can ever occur ?
17:05 mircea_popescu what.the.fuck.
17:06 jborkl yeah, well they made 100 billion ripples and they destroy 1/1000th every transaction
17:06 jborkl but I can not figure why a ripple is worth more than 1/1000th of a penny- if that
17:06 mircea_popescu so ?
17:06 jborkl so, I feel dumb for reading the ripple site
17:06 ericmuyser mircea_popescu: you're forgetting it's closed source and they dictate it, which is the negative oh so often pointed out. let's just say they say fuck it and create another 100 bill when they encounter that
17:07 mircea_popescu ericmuyser kinda my point.
17:07 mircea_popescu nobody seriously gave this any thought
17:07 deadweasel they've already stolen your time reading it, jborkl, and that's the most valuable asset I own.
17:07 mircea_popescu i don't mean nobody qualified. i mean nobody at all, not even the webdevelopers involved.
17:07 deadweasel so don't give them anymore.
17:07 mircea_popescu it was just a case of "make some shit to pump, quick, quick, i got these vcs sorta interested"
17:08 mircea_popescu what i want to know is literally whose girlfriend was whored out. because this deal was closed by sucking cock, and these people don't have slaves/employees/etc.
17:08 jborkl "make some shit to pump, quick, quick, i got these vcs sorta interested" < so true
17:08 jborkl we will take over bitcoin - come vc just a 100 mil or so
17:08 mircea_popescu if i had excess intel capacity i could prolly find her pic
17:08 mircea_popescu (or, to be fair, his)
17:09 mircea_popescu jborkl afaik they got like .75 or something
17:09 jborkl 75 mil?
17:09 jborkl or 3/4 mil?
17:10 mircea_popescu 3/4 mil
17:10 jborkl fuck , either way I need to go find a vc and tell them some stupid shit
17:10 jborkl they are all over the place here
17:10 fiat500 thats enough to pay salaries + assorted costs for 1 year
17:10 mircea_popescu jborkl there's an entire industry doing this. i call it the freakshow.
17:10 mircea_popescu basically it's like the costume parties they do for kids birthdays, but for office types.
17:10 mircea_popescu a sort of themed stripshow.
17:11 fiat500 if they dont get more funding next year, they have failed
17:11 jborkl I read a article last night that BTC startup incubator was being located here in my town
17:11 ericmuyser they're doing a great job. they could build a bot to slowly shave off their XRP, convert to BTC then into fiat and earn enough to pay back the VCs and still have a valuation higher than all of btc o.o
17:11 jborkl they decided in San Jose
17:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025002 = 0.075 BTC [-]
17:11 mircea_popescu ericmuyser not so. all the depth is them atm
17:11 fiat500 jborkl: yes its by a scammer isnt it?
17:11 mircea_popescu jborkl is this the kenna-owens partnership ?
17:11 fiat500 they bought a house or something
17:12 ericmuyser mircea_popescu: you think they're the ones pumping btc into ripple?
17:12 jborkl I don't know, I don't want to meet them
17:12 mircea_popescu ericmuyser "they" = opencoin. yes.
17:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02514 = 0.1006 BTC [+]
17:13 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.02514 = 0.4777 BTC [+]
17:13 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+]
17:13 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.339888 = 1.0197 BTC [+]
17:13 jborkl bitangels
17:13 fiat500 wow
17:13 jborkl that is the group
17:13 ericmuyser mircea_popescu: orly, well that's nice of them 8-) so it'll go down as the company that gave away millions to bitcoiners who were already becoming millionaires. compounded wealth!
17:14 mircea_popescu not quite millions, no.
17:14 mircea_popescu but it's exactly the novacoin pattern
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02539 BTC [-]
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02539 BTC [-]
17:15 jborkl 6.7 million in funding - and you get a 1000 hours of bitcoin community support
17:15 jborkl 1000 hours of no thanks
17:15 mircea_popescu wtf is 1k hours of community support ?
17:16 fiat500 mircea_popescu: shoulder to cry on after spending more than 15 mins browsing through btctalk
17:16 fiat500 1k hours thereof
17:16 mircea_popescu lolk.
17:16 jborkl I don't know, maybe our special developer that dropped in a minute ago helps out
17:16 jborkl :(
17:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0105 = 0.021 BTC [+]
17:16 ericmuyser mircea_popescu: not yet I guess. 30-day Volume = 10,324.13125313 BTC. who knows how much they put into it, but by the end of it, should be millions
17:16 mircea_popescu i wonder if they have a MPOE-PR said our stupiod idea sucks support group
17:16 jborkl LOL
17:17 fiat500 30-day Volume = 10,324.13125313 BTC
17:17 fiat500 of what?
17:17 benkay ;;gpg everify
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17:17 benkay ;;gpg eauth benkay
17:17 gribble Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~benkay@c-67-189-122-64.hsd1.or.comcast.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/39F274AFBC7ACAC7
17:17 ericmuyser fiat500: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/rippleXRP.html
17:17 benkay ;;getrating mircea_popescu
17:17 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 86, from 66 total ratings. Received ratings: 57 positive, 9 negative. Sent ratings: 64 positive, 15 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu
17:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.551 BTC [-]
17:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.551 BTC [-]
17:18 mircea_popescu o hey, bitcoincharts now has xrp ?
17:18 ericmuyser can haz!
17:19 mircea_popescu cool.
17:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.5315 = 5.063 BTC [-]
17:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.531 BTC [-]
17:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.531 BTC [-]
17:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.53 = 5.06 BTC [-]
17:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 2.53 = 37.95 BTC [-]
17:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 2.552 = 20.416 BTC [+]
17:20 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.0105 = 0.0525 BTC [+]
17:21 mircea_popescu well whoever made the rejected ripple price bet based on ripplewhatever.com as a price signal
17:21 mircea_popescu should prolly make it again based on btccharts
17:23 ericmuyser everybody talks about the AM divs but YABMC, even though defunct, is 2x higher (slowly decreasing). problem is getting out at your purchase price. https://btct.co/security/B.YABMC
17:24 fiat500 what the hell is yabmc paying divs out from?
17:24 mircea_popescu ericmuyser kinda my point earlier.
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [-]
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [-]
17:25 mircea_popescu fiat500 you clearly don't understand the concept of btc dividends.
17:25 fiat500 ponzi?
17:25 mircea_popescu not quite. i am personally fascinated by the thing from an anthropologic perspective.
17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02511 BTC [-]
17:26 mircea_popescu it's a mishmash of performance, sacrifice to the gods (and for the record most souls in btc have a very shamanistical relarton to btc, their own "reputation" etc)
17:26 mircea_popescu and other condiments.
17:26 mircea_popescu it's a decent thesis subject.
17:26 fiat500 LOL
17:26 mircea_popescu im not even kidding.
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.025101 = 0.7781 BTC [-]
17:28 mircea_popescu just take the following simple observation : the us plebs think "being mean" is bad juju
17:28 mircea_popescu and since "your reputation" is basically your juju
17:28 fiat500 i dunno man, i met extremely mean people in new york
17:28 mircea_popescu thus therefore MPOE-PR "will have bad reputation"
17:28 mircea_popescu ya but those'd be on SA not on btctalk.
17:28 jborkl rude and mean are different
17:28 mircea_popescu diff echos in that chamber.
17:28 fiat500 fair enough
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.025101 = 0.1255 BTC [-]
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 32 @ 0.02510001 = 0.8032 BTC [-]
17:29 jborkl also, thought involved
17:29 jborkl a rude crack head on the streets is worthless
17:29 fiat500 if mean is the opposite of nice, i dont think it is a useful metric in the world of finance
17:29 fiat500 whether bitcoin or otherwise
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02529999 = 2.53 BTC [+]
17:30 mircea_popescu for plenty of peeps bitcoin is the world of their dreams and aspirations
17:30 mircea_popescu and they being financially illiterate there's no finance included.
17:30 fiat500 ive noticed there is also a cult of personality trend in the community
17:30 mircea_popescu pretty much all the expectations you'd build on a levy-strauss model are amply represented.
17:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025002 = 0.05 BTC [-]
17:31 mircea_popescu this may be the best argument in favour of my "thirld world shitholer is teh us" thesis.
17:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [-]
17:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.025 = 0.825 BTC [-]
17:31 mircea_popescu tjhere's an entire gift economy involved in mucking up dividends for instance.
17:32 mircea_popescu (look up the older glbse tradition of people "donating" stuff to their public "venture")
17:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02495 BTC [-]
17:32 fiat500 O_o
17:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.551 = 7.653 BTC [-]
17:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.024903 = 0.1992 BTC [-]
17:33 mircea_popescu you think i am joking do you.
17:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [-]
17:33 jborkl There is a instance of that going on right now
17:33 mircea_popescu indeed.
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 45 @ 0.02503 = 1.1264 BTC [-]
17:34 fiat500 what would be the point of that, artificially inflating performance?
17:34 mircea_popescu you can actually even follow cultural markers by people's community age.
17:34 mircea_popescu fiat500 the point would be "being a good person", as per the rules of the mystical space.
17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.02503 = 0.3755 BTC [-]
17:35 mircea_popescu in sane world we'd immediately think this is fraud. but to these muppets it's not really it.
17:35 fiat500 doesnt sound like something a sane person would do, unless they had been cooking the books and felt bad about it
17:35 mircea_popescu they're to mentally simple for it (some at least)
17:35 jborkl mentally weak people fall into the trap of "what a good guy"
17:35 jborkl damn your timestamp
17:35 mircea_popescu <D
17:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.025 = 0.775 BTC [+]
17:37 fiat500 21:33 < jborkl> There is a instance of that going on right now
17:37 fiat500 where
17:37 jborkl first page of a exchange has it as a announcment
17:37 jborkl sounds like glbse stoopid shit
17:38 jborkl all you have to do is read glbse and apply it to the future
17:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 61 @ 0.025 = 1.525 BTC [+]
17:39 kakobrekla new alt chain: AmeriCoin
17:39 kakobrekla not joking
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02525598 = 1.2628 BTC [+]
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 42 @ 0.02525599 = 1.0608 BTC [+]
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.02529997 = 2.53 BTC [+]
17:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.02529997 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
17:40 jborkl so, 35% of the coin is used to subsidize those not smart enough to use it. not joking
17:41 fiat500 jborkl: cant find the announcement
17:41 mircea_popescu kakobrekla is proof of work coca-cola ?
17:41 kakobrekla hehe
17:41 fiat500 wunderbra
17:41 kakobrekla everyone copies ltc
17:41 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.108 = 0.432 BTC [-]
17:42 kakobrekla >Before there was hypercoin, sexcoin, fastcoin etc. there was DragonCoin. Here is your chance to own tens of thousands of coins! The winner will receive 37667.5 DNC. No bid too low! All currencies older than two days accepted. The auction will run for 10 hours.
17:42 kakobrekla lol
17:42 kakobrekla "All currencies older than two days accepted."
17:42 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10761 = 0.5381 BTC [-]
17:43 fiat500 HAHAHAHA
17:43 mircea_popescu lmao what
17:43 mircea_popescu is this run by our tortilla friend ?
17:43 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219065.0
17:43 kakobrekla sauce
17:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 21 @ 0.024822 = 0.5213 BTC [-]
17:44 kakobrekla 2 alc chain posts and im good for hours.
17:44 kakobrekla alt*
17:44 kakobrekla very concetrated.
17:44 mircea_popescu 100k EuropeCoin (Not launched, yet but statistically there will be a EuropeCoin by the time you read this)
17:44 kakobrekla :))
17:44 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-have-no-idea-why-rape-is-against-the-law-while-marketing-is-not/#comment-93336 anyone read the book this woman's on about ?
17:44 jborkl they are going to be like .com < they are all used up and being squatted on
17:44 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10752 = 0.5376 BTC [-]
17:44 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.0105 = 0.021 BTC [+]
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02529996 = 0.1265 BTC [-]
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02529996 = 0.0759 BTC [-]
17:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [-]
17:46 jborkl well , there is a porncoin - that didnt exist yesterday
17:46 jborkl AFAIK
17:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0252 BTC [-]
17:47 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025136 BTC [+]
17:48 mircea_popescu i think it was announced yest
17:48 fiat500 sexcoin?
17:48 dub lmiot
17:49 jborkl I think sexcoin was yesterday... today is porncoin
17:49 mircea_popescu a right
17:49 jborkl so out of date MP, gotta keep up with the devs
17:49 aknap3 controlling people: http://books.google.ca/books?id=4vKdrt8zcBkC&pg=PP6&lpg=PP6&dq=1-58062-569
17:49 mircea_popescu when they come up with fagcoin ima buy one
17:50 mircea_popescu cause you wouldn't want to have 0 fagcoin
17:50 ericmuyser I only transact in buttcoins and sometimes I tip in fartoshi's
17:50 jborkl LOL, running a fagcoin client
17:50 jborkl fagcoind
17:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.025136 = 0.176 BTC [+]
17:50 dub aknap3: I stopped reading at 'printed in canada'
17:51 Namworld I have better.
17:51 aknap3 funny
17:51 aknap3 I like it here just fine
17:51 mircea_popescu dub what's wrong with printing at the site you cut the tree ?
17:51 mircea_popescu you part of the teamster's or something ?
17:51 dub moosecock
17:51 mircea_popescu butthurt ?
17:52 mircea_popescu jborkl obviously the fagcoin client will be fagcoinb
17:53 jborkl I was going to say, they need to make a glbse like exchange for all the idiots to trade this shit on, but then I realized they do
17:53 jborkl true
17:54 dub buttfunder?
17:54 jborkl no, the one that has the trollbox
17:56 mircea_popescu ya the btce russianz totally should be in this chan
17:56 jborkl they should have named ripple - Herpescoin - you don't know who is going to give you Herpes or or that you might have gotten bad Herpes from someone you don't know
17:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.025136 = 0.3016 BTC [+]
17:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [-]
17:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [-]
17:58 mircea_popescu rdponticelli re your forum thing : you're muddying things up.
17:58 mircea_popescu if you invested 2x btc into gigavps' scam, you are out 99%+ of your investment no matter what.
17:58 mircea_popescu the fact that he's taken the rest of it through whatever bizzare glbse stuff is a very much unrelated problem.
18:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02529996 BTC [+]
18:00 rdponticelli mircea_popescu: I'm just stating the fact of what happened
18:00 mircea_popescu well... no, you aren't.
18:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.22311 BTC [+]
18:01 mircea_popescu you gave some douche 20btc for 20 x 5 MH/s bonds.
18:01 mircea_popescu those bonds, i nthe best of circumstances, are worth .2 BTC today
18:01 rdponticelli 2x btc are the accrued dividends since you closed the fund, giga paid that
18:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.549 = 7.647 BTC [-]
18:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.55 BTC [+]
18:01 mircea_popescu is it ? how many did you hold ?
18:03 rdponticelli That's not the original invest
18:03 rdponticelli That's not what I'm claiming
18:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025148 = 0.1257 BTC [+]
18:03 mircea_popescu ok, so for my curiosity, what was the original investment there ?
18:04 jborkl 2btc per share - if I remember offhand?
18:04 rdponticelli Around 116k
18:04 mircea_popescu jborkl iirc it peaked at 1.6ish
18:04 mircea_popescu 1.5 more like a stable level
18:05 mircea_popescu rdponticelli 116k what, 116k f.giga.etf = 116 bonds, ~600mh/s ?
18:05 jborkl back when pirate40 was all the rage
18:05 rdponticelli I don't know what was the original investment
18:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.25 BTC [-]
18:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025148 = 0.1006 BTC [+]
18:06 rdponticelli Yeah, 116k etf
18:07 mircea_popescu what a sad affair that was.
18:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10999 = 0.44 BTC [+]
18:08 rdponticelli I tried to talk to you...
18:08 mircea_popescu yeah, i'm not negotating that in may. time to negotiate it was last year, when closure was announced.
18:08 fiat500 out of curiosity mircea_popescu, why did you decide not to follow gigavps' claim process (assuming you didn't, i may have missed something while reading up in the forums)
18:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.555 BTC [+]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.25 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024828 = 0.0745 BTC [-]
18:09 mircea_popescu fiat500 it's a huge discussion which was exhausted last year. im not gonna start over.
18:09 rdponticelli That's not what you said back then
18:09 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/conversation-discarded-as-worthless/
18:09 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
18:09 mircea_popescu rdponticelli i beg to differ.
18:10 rdponticelli Anyway, the situation today is giga is paying...
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.556 = 5.112 BTC [+]
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109999 BTC [+]
18:10 mircea_popescu ... a selected list of friends and nefario socks.
18:12 rdponticelli I proposed to take care of the process, you declined...
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.557 BTC [+]
18:12 rdponticelli To take care myself, I mean
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.024827 = 0.2731 BTC [-]
18:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0252 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
18:13 mircea_popescu there's two ways to go about things. you can prosecute or negotiate. the time to negotiate was then. sadly the possibilities to prosecute kinda died with the death of the rota, leaving you hanging there too.
18:14 KRS-1 i prefer the prostitute method
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.01011 = 0.0607 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01011 = 0.1011 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 18 @ 0.010008 = 0.1801 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.010008 = 1.0008 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.010007 = 0.5004 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.010006 = 0.2001 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.010005 = 1.0005 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 9 @ 0.010004 = 0.09 BTC [-]
18:14 KRS-1 negotiations is for suckas
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 87 @ 0.010003 = 0.8703 BTC [-]
18:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [-]
18:14 rdponticelli You can't negotiate if you don't know what's gonna happen
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
18:15 KRS-1 need moar trilema pics
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 50 @ 0.01 = 0.5 BTC [-]
18:15 mircea_popescu again i beg to differ.
18:15 mircea_popescu there's no point in negotiating if you know what's gonna happen.
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [-]
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 40 @ 0.00999 = 0.3996 BTC [-]
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 40 @ 0.00998 = 0.3992 BTC [-]
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7000 @ 0.00997 = 69.79 BTC [-]
18:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00997 = 0.0499 BTC [-]
18:15 mircea_popescu that's why plea bargains work before the verdict rather than after.
18:16 mircea_popescu but that aside, i thought the case was you had a 20ish investment, which is why i mentioned. i see you have a point, so.
18:16 KRS-1 are there really russian womens for sale there who can be my wife
18:16 KRS-1 how much bitcoin
18:18 rdponticelli Look, the thing is simple. You betted that giga wouldn't be paying, I betted that he would...
18:18 mircea_popescu notrly the way i see it.
18:19 rdponticelli If your whole issue was a giant short, it's ok with me
18:19 rdponticelli But take care of the responsibility
18:20 rdponticelli I congratulate you if you shorted, you made good money
18:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0251 = 0.1255 BTC [+]
18:20 mircea_popescu the if is spurious however.
18:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.545 BTC [-]
18:21 rdponticelli And if you didn't shorted, you're covered
18:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0251 = 0.1255 BTC [+]
18:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0251 = 0.0753 BTC [+]
18:21 rdponticelli So you have no excuse
18:21 rdponticelli I'm a reasonable guy
18:21 truff1es lol gl with reasoning with stubborn
18:22 rdponticelli But I hate to be left hanging there...
18:22 mircea_popescu you're reasonable up to the point where you go "you're covered". but anyway.
18:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [+]
18:23 rdponticelli You're, I even tried to bail out you from the process
18:23 rdponticelli s/out you/you out/
18:23 Namworld Technically it wouldn't costs mircea a lot to claim. But mircea seems to consider signing the stuff and giving his ID a risk.
18:24 mircea_popescu iguess the moral of the story is that one's well advised to negotiate very early rather than very late on one hand
18:24 mircea_popescu and that we need a court of some sort on the other.
18:24 mircea_popescu preferably one that actually works.
18:25 rdponticelli Namworld: Well, I can understand that, and that's why I said I could take care of that...
18:25 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.005931 BTC [+]
18:26 rdponticelli I really thing that between gentlemens there's no need for courts...
18:26 rdponticelli But it isn't very polite leave somebody talking alone...
18:26 Namworld I don't think mircea would be the kind to trust anyone else to process something for him when he owes the stuff to others.
18:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01045 = 0.0314 BTC [+]
18:27 mircea_popescu rdponticelli that's what courts do : when one party considers it has a claim and the other party does not, they mediate the dispute
18:27 mircea_popescu there's nothing ungentlemanly about it
18:27 rdponticelli I know what courts do
18:27 Namworld I'm really pissed about that anyway... I don't see claiming as risk.
18:28 mircea_popescu Namworld that's just an edge of the matter. if i allowed him to do it one day he could stand up in court as a state witness accusing me of conspiracy to commit various crimes.
18:28 mircea_popescu on the simple strength of that.
18:28 mircea_popescu just because someone in btc comes up with an idea doesn't mean it actually flies.
18:28 rdponticelli I just say that good will is better than courts...
18:29 mircea_popescu when it works.
18:29 rdponticelli Yeah, obviously
18:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025009 = 0.075 BTC [-]
18:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [+]
18:34 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [+]
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02519998 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
18:37 rdponticelli Usually it works when you're dealing with gentlemans but sadly, only in that case...
18:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.02509 = 1.0036 BTC [-]
18:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02509 BTC [-]
18:41 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02509 BTC [-]
18:41 mircea_popescu no, the affairs of people progressively become more complex than their ability to comprehend them. meanwhile their revulsion of loss and desire to gain remains strictly oriented. this causes conflict.
18:42 mircea_popescu gentlemen and peasants alike, it doesn't matter.
18:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [+]
18:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.55 BTC [+]
18:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.524 BTC [-]
18:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.02509 = 0.1756 BTC [-]
18:44 rdponticelli Ok, so let's build a law system, a court, a police to save everybody from themselves... Oh, wait...
18:45 rdponticelli I think I saw something like that somewhere....
18:45 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024901 = 0.0747 BTC [-]
18:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02509 = 0.1255 BTC [+]
18:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0249 = 0.249 BTC [-]
18:47 kakobrekla yes, great success
18:47 kakobrekla ;;ud inaba
18:47 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Inaba | Stuck-up Lesbian Roleplayer Typically applied to males who play females in online games and try to hook it up with other females (probably played b...
18:47 kakobrekla no, wrong
18:47 mircea_popescu ahahaha
18:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [+]
18:47 mircea_popescu rdponticelli still, disputed stuff will have to be adjudicated somehow.
18:47 truff1es icwudt kakobrekla
18:47 kakobrekla i dunno where the lesbians are from
18:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02509 = 0.0753 BTC [+]
18:48 rdponticelli As far as I'm concerned, disputed stuff should be agreed upon by the interested parties...
18:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [+]
18:49 rdponticelli If somebody doesn't have the good will to reach an agreement, I can write off a debt, what I can't write off is an impression...
18:50 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002949 BTC [-]
18:50 mircea_popescu there;s a difference between a debt and a claim.
18:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0251001 = 0.2259 BTC [-]
18:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 57 @ 0.0251 = 1.4307 BTC [-]
18:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.02502 = 1.251 BTC [-]
18:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.02500001 = 0.3 BTC [-]
18:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [-]
18:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [+]
18:51 rdponticelli I remember some blog entry about gpg contracts, talking about people honouring he's word... nice stuf...
18:51 truff1es web of trust?
18:51 truff1es hahaha
18:52 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.02509 = 1.2043 BTC [+]
18:53 mircea_popescu certainly.
18:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0251 = 0.251 BTC [+]
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02519994 BTC [+]
19:04 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025147 = 0.0754 BTC [+]
19:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025148 BTC [+]
19:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025148 = 0.0754 BTC [+]
19:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025148 = 0.0754 BTC [+]
19:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025149 = 0.1257 BTC [+]
19:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 48 @ 0.025 = 1.2 BTC [-]
19:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02515 = 0.1258 BTC [+]
19:09 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.002949 = 0.0324 BTC [-]
19:09 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.639 BTC [-]
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.025 = 0.25 BTC [-]
19:10 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 28 @ 0.1999 = 5.5972 BTC [+]
19:10 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02515 = 0.2515 BTC [+]
19:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02515 = 0.1509 BTC [+]
19:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
19:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.025 = 0.325 BTC [-]
19:13 fiat500 oh god i just read about the NYAN thing, man i missed some juicy catastrophes
19:14 mircea_popescu nyan was pretty good.
19:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.02519988 = 0.0756 BTC [+]
19:15 fiat500 and usagi was in here earlier too, trolling about java
19:15 mircea_popescu yeah, some of the funny people of btc history are still active more or less.
19:15 ericmuyser usagi went from java love to javascript lover in 5 minutes. it was weird.
19:15 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.02515 = 0.9557 BTC [+]
19:15 ericmuyser they're completely different
19:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.02519988 = 0.1008 BTC [+]
19:16 mircea_popescu trying to recall what else was pretty good.
19:16 mircea_popescu all the pirate threads pre-august, especially the mpoe-pr bashing early 2012 are pretty good
19:17 mircea_popescu the joel katz notions of "shared fault"/cherry truck are pretty decent
19:17 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00295 BTC [+]
19:17 mircea_popescu the fabled bitdaytrade including the epic reddit thread also
19:18 mircea_popescu skepsidyne integrated node should be read by all aspiring miners/miner investoras
19:19 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02515 BTC [+]
19:19 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.003484 = 0.007 BTC [-]
19:19 dub how is reptillia tracking?
19:20 mircea_popescu dub http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times/
19:20 fiat500 mircea_popescu: this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8167.0
19:20 mircea_popescu turns out he was a goon.
19:20 dub these are good candidates for my bitcoin bootup
19:20 mircea_popescu yes that fiat500
19:20 jborkl cablepair was prettygood
19:21 jborkl epic drunk post bullshit
19:21 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.02515 = 0.7797 BTC [+]
19:21 mircea_popescu ya that too lol.
19:21 mircea_popescu fiat500 notice how the may post is last edited november :D
19:22 mircea_popescu early to mid bfl drama was also pretty decent (they announced summer 2012, since about oct to about jan it was fuicy)
19:22 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+]
19:23 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 70 @ 0.2 = 14 BTC [+]
19:26 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.000717 = 0.0029 BTC [+]
19:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02515 = 0.1258 BTC [+]
19:30 fiat500 lol@ tortilla
19:32 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]
19:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.02519981 = 0.0504 BTC [-]
19:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02514 = 0.0503 BTC [-]
19:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0251998 = 1.26 BTC [-]
19:43 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10999 = 0.22 BTC [-]
19:45 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.000717 = 0.0014 BTC [+]
19:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.02514 = 0.176 BTC [-]
19:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02514 BTC [-]
19:51 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.02514 = 0.7039 BTC [-]
19:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02515 BTC [+]
19:57 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.003397 = 0.034 BTC [-]
19:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.548999 BTC [-]
19:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.025149 = 0.3521 BTC [-]
19:59 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025149 BTC [-]
20:00 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025149 = 0.0754 BTC [-]
20:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.549 = 5.098 BTC [+]
20:03 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025149 = 0.0754 BTC [-]
20:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549 BTC [+]
20:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2866 @ 0.00073502 = 2.1066 BTC [-]
20:08 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 16 @ 0.000717 = 0.0115 BTC [+]
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02519962 BTC [-]
20:19 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 5 @ 0.749 = 3.745 BTC [+]
20:20 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+]
20:20 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025149 BTC [-]
20:20 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 8 @ 0.78 = 6.24 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025149 = 0.0503 BTC [-]
20:27 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025149 = 0.0503 BTC [-]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025149 BTC [-]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025149 = 0.1257 BTC [-]
20:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025149 BTC [-]
20:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00073184 = 6.6232 BTC [-]
20:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00073138 = 7.3869 BTC [-]
20:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00073084 = 8.9162 BTC [-]
20:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.549999 BTC [+]
20:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.025149 = 0.176 BTC [-]
20:41 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
20:42 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
20:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02515 = 0.2767 BTC [+]
20:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.02515 = 0.8803 BTC [+]
20:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
20:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [-]
20:54 jcpham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COKXncOTcao
20:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.02509 = 1.1291 BTC [-]
20:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
20:54 jcpham Pastor Dowell raps about bitcoin
20:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02515 BTC [+]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 43 @ 0.02515 = 1.0815 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0251 = 0.0502 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 37 @ 0.025 = 0.925 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02490001 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0249 = 0.0996 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0249 = 0.1494 BTC [-]
20:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0248 = 0.0496 BTC [-]
20:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0251996 = 0.0756 BTC [+]
20:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.548999 = 5.098 BTC [-]
20:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [+]
21:04 mircea_popescu who's he ?
21:04 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.002949 BTC [-]
21:06 jcpham no clue!
21:07 mircea_popescu well as long as he got the maff part.
21:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1076 = 0.538 BTC [-]
21:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.1075 = 0.7525 BTC [-]
21:07 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.107 = 0.963 BTC [-]
21:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.6515 = 7.9545 BTC [-]
21:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.651 BTC [-]
21:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.548999 BTC [-]
21:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [-]
21:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024831 BTC [-]
21:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02514999 BTC [-]
21:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02514999 BTC [-]
21:25 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.10999 = 0.7699 BTC [+]
21:26 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 13 @ 0.109999 = 1.43 BTC [+]
21:28 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.109 = 0.545 BTC [-]
21:28 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 11 @ 0.11 = 1.21 BTC [+]
21:37 ThickAsThieves oh geez
21:37 ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219636.0
21:37 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 5 @ 0.000677 = 0.0034 BTC [+]
21:37 ThickAsThieves yesterday it was $5m
21:37 ThickAsThieves "AMC Is Again Increasing Its Hash Power To 5.651 TH/s Its Revenue To $8,681,347"
21:37 ThickAsThieves (based on current difficulty, 3mos from now)
21:38 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
21:38 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 20 @ 0.000678 = 0.0136 BTC [+]
21:38 gribble 103275.818416
21:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.541 BTC [-]
21:38 ThickAsThieves nice
21:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.54 BTC [-]
21:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.02515 = 0.4779 BTC [+]
21:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.024999 = 0.125 BTC [+]
21:40 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.002701 = 0.054 BTC [-]
21:40 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.0027 = 0.108 BTC [-]
21:40 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 7 @ 0.0027 = 0.0189 BTC [-]
21:40 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0026 = 0.26 BTC [-]
21:40 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 498 @ 0.002569 = 1.2794 BTC [-]
21:40 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: "should AMC provide the capital in the next few weeks" is creepy
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.2299 = 2.9887 BTC [+]
21:41 fiat500 makes the entire announcement unfalsifiable
21:41 ThickAsThieves it's false either way
21:41 ThickAsThieves no way in hell is he gonna rake in $8m
21:41 ThickAsThieves simple as thatr
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.024661 = 0.4932 BTC [-]
21:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02466001 BTC [-]
21:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.02466001 BTC [-]
21:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 28 @ 0.02466 = 0.6905 BTC [-]
21:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.23 = 0.92 BTC [+]
21:43 mircea_popescu lol
21:43 mircea_popescu why not i ask you.
21:44 Namworld SDICE really not going so well
21:44 bitbuyer_m Hola
21:44 ThickAsThieves i suppose btc/usd could go way up
21:44 ThickAsThieves and then he could make his $8m
21:45 Namworld If it could drop more, I'd probably buy a good bunch.
21:45 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: i told him if he makes 10% of what he is claiming, people would still be impressed
21:46 mircea_popescu hello bitbuyer_m
21:46 fiat500 he stands by the numbers, so, time to get the popcorn
21:47 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00071 = 0.0036 BTC [-]
21:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3489 @ 0.00073011 = 2.5474 BTC [-]
21:47 mircea_popescu well fi the 100th guy could buy basics then lose his money then buy these etc
21:48 mircea_popescu why couldn't some other guy get 10mn or w/e
21:48 mircea_popescu it's a mmorpg after all.
21:48 fiat500 LOL
21:48 fiat500 yeah
21:49 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: "If you make your customers successful, you will be successful"
21:49 fiat500 their tagline is cheesy as fuck
21:49 fiat500 they even have an 800 number
21:49 fiat500 i should give them a call
21:51 Diablo-D3 sounds like a scam
21:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025147 BTC [+]
21:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.548499 BTC [+]
21:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025149 = 0.1257 BTC [+]
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.529 BTC [-]
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.528 BTC [-]
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.526 BTC [-]
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.524 BTC [-]
22:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.523 = 5.046 BTC [-]
22:10 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.01044 = 0.1148 BTC [-]
22:10 Namworld ugh... someone stop buy bonds so high...
22:11 Namworld That's like 1/2 a year premium
22:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.538999 = 7.617 BTC [+]
22:12 Namworld If I then buyback the bonds, people will complain -.-
22:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [-]
22:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]
22:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.01 = 0.03 BTC [-]
22:17 dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj0L0hcJxPw
22:17 dub jcpham lost the chemtrails
22:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025036 = 0.0501 BTC [+]
22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.025036 = 0.8262 BTC [+]
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 741 @ 0.00073084 = 0.5416 BTC [+]
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.0007309 = 6.9801 BTC [+]
22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1209 @ 0.0007314 = 0.8843 BTC [+]
22:22 fiat500 Namworld: free market :P
22:26 Namworld Problem is if people pay X premium over face value, and I buyback tomorrow... they'd complain
22:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.528999 BTC [-]
22:29 fiat500 nobody forced them to buy without reading the terms
22:29 fiat500 dont think its your responsibility to hold their hands
22:30 mircea_popescu fiat500 me either, but people do have trobule digesting stuff.
22:30 fiat500 you cant even notify everyone globally of this because it would/will affect the share price
22:31 fiat500 then it looks like you were manipulating it to lower your buyback cost
22:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0251 BTC [+]
22:32 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.002939 = 0.0294 BTC [+]
22:33 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.003448 = 0.0345 BTC [+]
22:35 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02499 BTC [-]
22:36 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.000678 = 0.0068 BTC [+]
22:37 fiat500 ThickAsThieves: "I fully disclose that the difficulty may increase or decrease in the future and the projected profit is an estimate."
22:37 fiat500 very nice ;p
22:38 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1035 = 1.035 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1035 = 0.5175 BTC [-]
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0251 = 0.0753 BTC [+]
22:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02499 = 0.2249 BTC [-]
22:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11988 @ 0.0007314 = 8.768 BTC [+]
22:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3012 @ 0.00073163 = 2.2037 BTC [+]
22:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.025 BTC [+]
22:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [+]
22:46 dub Is it me or does AM seem to just pick whatever people are guessing the div will be on the forum and pay that
22:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [+]
22:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.02509999 = 0.1255 BTC [-]
22:47 fiat500 LOL
22:47 fiat500 dub: either that or the people on the forums are calculating divs correctly
22:48 Namworld People know ASICMINER's hashrate, so can easily estimate the divs...
22:48 fiat500 we know what their mining returns are
22:48 fiat500 and we know how much hardware they are selling (at least on the forum)
22:50 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.002939 = 0.0294 BTC [+]
22:50 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.00294 = 0.0882 BTC [+]
22:51 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 7 @ 0.000733 = 0.0051 BTC [+]
22:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.527 BTC [-]
22:56 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
22:57 dub -PT divs not out yet eh?
22:57 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.025 = 0.5 BTC [+]
22:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.025 = 0.1 BTC [+]
23:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00073116 = 2.815 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5959 @ 0.00072798 = 4.338 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1980 @ 0.00072696 = 1.4394 BTC [-]
23:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.527 BTC [-]
23:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.52 BTC [-]
23:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.51 = 5.02 BTC [-]
23:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.025 = 0.475 BTC [+]
23:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.025 = 0.125 BTC [+]
23:09 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 83 @ 0.0251 = 2.0833 BTC [+]
23:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 92 @ 0.02515 = 2.3138 BTC [+]
23:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02499 BTC [-]
23:11 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.02499 = 0.2249 BTC [-]
23:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024861 = 0.0746 BTC [-]
23:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.024861 BTC [-]
23:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02486 = 0.1492 BTC [-]
23:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [-]
23:14 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02486 = 0.0497 BTC [-]
23:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.519 BTC [+]
23:16 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02515 BTC [+]
23:19 ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats
23:19 gribble Current Blocks: 238618 | Current Difficulty: 1.2153411709775832E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 239903 | Next Difficulty In: 1285 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13885140.5009 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.24891
23:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2988 @ 0.00073163 = 2.1861 BTC [+]
23:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3712 @ 0.00073272 = 2.7199 BTC [+]
23:28 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
23:28 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 130.35002, Best ask: 130.97673, Bid-ask spread: 0.62671, Last trade: 130.35001, 24 hour volume: 19233.58897377, 24 hour low: 127.60000, 24 hour high: 132.71988, 24 hour vwap: 130.55279
23:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.024861 = 0.4226 BTC [-]
23:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 237 @ 0.02486 = 5.8918 BTC [-]
23:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.519 BTC [+]
23:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.524 BTC [+]
23:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.02509998 = 0.1506 BTC [+]
23:31 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02515 = 0.1258 BTC [+]
23:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 49 @ 0.02515 = 1.2324 BTC [+]
23:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02486 BTC [-]
23:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02486 BTC [-]
23:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.025149 = 0.0754 BTC [+]
23:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.02509998 = 0.2259 BTC [+]
~ 15 minutes ~
23:57 Chaang-Noi ThickAsThieves still waiting for shares to be moved?
23:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.024861 = 0.0746 BTC [-]
23:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.509 BTC [-]
23:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.506 = 5.012 BTC [-]
23:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.505 = 7.515 BTC [-]
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