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← 2013-05-08 | 2013-05-10 → ↓
00:00 ThickAsThieves since it all happened in 213
00:00 ThickAsThieves 2013
00:00 ThickAsThieves i also used cash from my business to do the buying
00:00 ThickAsThieves so i have some flex there
00:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0142 = 0.426 BTC [-]
00:01 KRS1 if its an s-corp u can prolly realize those gains and keep it in the coffers without having to pay anything just yet
00:01 ThickAsThieves i have many things i can claim as expenses at well
00:01 ThickAsThieves as*
00:02 Bugpowder ThickAsThieves: xv
00:02 Bugpowder http://i.imgur.com/EUe0FDs.png
00:02 ThickAsThieves haha nice
00:02 Bugpowder tonight :)
00:02 ThickAsThieves daytrading btc got too gambley for me
00:03 KRS1 well the thing is, an incorporated business is its own legal entity and any money it makes doesnt get taxed until its withdrawn as salary or whatever..you can figure out how to spend it tax free from there..max the ira's and what not..make tax free "investments" into the "company" that get sspent on this and that
00:03 ThickAsThieves i;m almost at .3%
00:03 Bugpowder I have a pro CPA looking at the tax situation
00:03 ThickAsThieves on gox
00:03 KRS1 the government likes green investments atm
00:03 Bugpowder will update.
00:03 ThickAsThieves that would be appreciated Bug
00:03 Bugpowder 0.3% is a nice discount tier
00:03 Bugpowder after that who gives a shit
00:03 KRS1 yeh lawyers are real good at that shit..meh I went to business school I only know the "proper" way to do things.
00:03 Bugpowder the CPA is going to do it proper
00:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3034 BTC [+]
00:04 KRS1 yeh they can pull off some cool shit so you dont pay as much
00:04 ThickAsThieves i forgot i had some BTC on gox still :)
00:04 Bugpowder I would have had to set shit up ahead of time in offshore shell corps to avoid taxes, instead of my personal gox account
00:04 Bugpowder and I dunno how to do that.
00:04 Bugpowder yet :-P
00:04 KRS1 just call a bank in Bermuda =D
00:05 Bugpowder oh my
00:05 Bugpowder I have a lot of bitcoins tonight
00:05 KRS1 ..and there are starving children in Africa.
00:05 Bugpowder would love to see a bounce from here.
00:06 KRS1 JUST LOOK AT SALLY STRUTHERS GODDAMNIT!
00:06 Diablo-D3 SHE ATE THEM
00:06 KRS1 meh I'm just trying to see how many drugs I can get into my system tonight before I crash
00:07 Bugpowder bought back in based on the high bid/ask ratio relative to current price
00:07 KRS1 think I'm gonna top it all off with some benedryl or nyquil.
00:07 Bugpowder so far it hasn't worked out
00:07 Bugpowder but only 4 hours in
00:07 ThickAsThieves i think if you dont see a nice rise this week
00:07 KRS1 but im still racing from earlier
00:07 ThickAsThieves itll happen next week
00:07 ThickAsThieves if we hold up, thing can get quite bullish
00:08 KRS1 thanks for that- i noticed you are pretty accurate
00:08 KRS1 and bugpowder too
00:08 KRS1 I value your opinions
00:08 ThickAsThieves i'm wrong too sometimes
00:08 ThickAsThieves Bug too
00:08 Bugpowder yeah
00:08 Bugpowder I got filled at 81
00:08 KRS1 wtf how did u place an order when it went that low
00:08 Bugpowder sold at 90
00:08 KRS1 api?
00:08 ThickAsThieves same here pretty much
00:08 Bugpowder I had it in for a long time
00:08 KRS1 ahhhh
00:08 ThickAsThieves I thought itd fall again
00:09 KRS1 thats tight
00:09 Bugpowder literally the minute I sold at 90
00:09 Bugpowder it started the rally to 120
00:09 Bugpowder fucking lame
00:09 Bugpowder Now here I am buying at 112
00:09 Bugpowder <sigh>
00:09 Bugpowder time to sleep thru this shit.
00:09 KRS1 $105 here
00:10 KRS1 i was looking at that nginx exploit..some zero-day shit there.
00:11 KRS1 do professionals consider nginx suitable for production yet? Its been a while since I followed that project. I mostly work with Apache.
00:11 Bugpowder I assume you have all seen this now
00:11 Bugpowder http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nZcRU0Op5P4#!
00:12 KRS1 wow it seems that exploit could lead to rootshell
00:12 KRS1 wonder if gox got rooted
00:12 KRS1 bugpowder: YES thats hilarious.
00:13 ThickAsThieves awesome
00:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.42 = 14.2 BTC [-]
00:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [-]
00:13 Bugpowder the production quality on the tunes are getting better
00:13 KRS1 We were all groovin to that in the office today..brothers and white dudes doin some harlem shuffle to that
00:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.41 = 7.05 BTC [-]
00:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.41 = 2.82 BTC [-]
00:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.41 = 4.23 BTC [-]
00:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.401 = 7.005 BTC [-]
00:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.4 = 14 BTC [-]
00:14 ThickAsThieves i still like the rap battles ones too
00:14 KRS1 Hide your kids, hide your wife.
00:14 ThickAsThieves with einstein and hawking
00:15 benkay krs1 we use nginx in production
00:15 KRS1 Is that a generally accepted practice now? Last I remember it wasn't recommended just yet.
00:15 benkay well, we use it for not terribly sensitive stuff
00:16 corpsan use nginx, it's fine
00:16 KRS1 in many ways i understand it is superior to apache
00:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [-]
00:16 corpsan it's superior to apache in most ways
00:17 KRS1 Threaded C?
00:17 KRS1 nvermind im curious now im gonna go learn it
00:17 KRS1 I might throw it in dev for my company..get it in the food chain
00:18 Bugpowder wat?
00:18 Bugpowder http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2013/05/riker-sits-down-like-a-crazy-person-star-treg-tng-supercut/
00:18 KRS1 As far as autotune news events, Idk if this is my favorite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWb4OhL8eow
00:18 Bugpowder well it IS the classic
00:18 corpsan nginx is single-threaded
00:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10508 @ 0.00072183 = 7.585 BTC [+]
00:19 ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k
00:19 KRS1 yeh? like apache has prefork.c for that
00:19 Bugpowder http://apache.slashdot.org/story/13/05/09/003236/backdoor-targeting-apache-servers-spreads-to-nginx-lighttpd
00:19 KRS1 but u can switch
00:19 benkay if you had stones like riker you'd mount everything too
00:20 KRS1 I think this is my fav http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWb4OhL8eow
00:21 KRS1 oh dear bugpowder I didn't know about that one..I think we're pretty vulnerable by now
00:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.392001 BTC [-]
00:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.392 BTC [-]
00:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.380005 BTC [-]
00:21 corpsan apache has a whole OS thread per connection, which is significant memory overhead, and each thread does a context-switches whenever it reads or writes, which is significant CPU overhead
00:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0145 BTC [+]
00:22 corpsan nginx has one thread—each connection is a <200byte struct, and the reads/writes are all multiplexed
00:23 corpsan it can read/write from/to all open connections in a single context switch
00:23 corpsan it is vastly more efficient than apache
00:24 KRS1 heh this was a fancy exploit..well done
00:24 KRS1 ok so it seems to share base mem
00:25 KRS1 seems pretty efficent
00:26 KRS1 this is a handy memory dump util they provided
00:27 corpsan the downside is you are 99% likely to be writing your application in a dipshit programming language, depending on a dipshit web framework, and using a dipshit threading model. so you're not probably to see much benefit other than fewer load balancers
00:27 benkay sounds like dipshit client using nginx
00:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.360121 BTC [-]
00:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4585 @ 0.00072183 = 3.3096 BTC [+]
00:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071757 = 3.1006 BTC [-]
00:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3168 @ 0.00071756 = 2.2732 BTC [-]
00:28 KRS1 ours isnt bad..apache, php, cms is expression engine and the backend is written in java..our db is probably our weakest point.
00:29 corpsan you won't see any benefit switching to apache with that dipshit stack
00:29 corpsan *from
00:29 KRS1 i configured all the web servers to fork, not using multi threading..instead using vmware to give high cpu availability
00:29 corpsan but yeah your DB probably is your bottle neck
00:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.01439 = 0.0576 BTC [-]
00:30 KRS1 nah the web servers are hardly taxed at all
00:30 KRS1 im not the one who came up with it, i can barely influence our technical architecture..too many egos and I dont play that f'n game..im the one they come running to when shit doesnt work.
00:31 corpsan i know that feel bro
00:32 KRS1 yeh it sucks, but nothing new...been doing this 13+ years
00:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01410001 BTC [-]
00:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.0141 = 0.4794 BTC [-]
00:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.014 = 7 BTC [-]
00:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01439999 BTC [+]
00:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 199 @ 0.0144 = 2.8656 BTC [+]
00:48 KRS1 and back down
00:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.409999 BTC [+]
00:53 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01415 = 0.0425 BTC [-]
00:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.41 = 14.1 BTC [+]
00:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.42 = 7.1 BTC [+]
00:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.01415 = 0.467 BTC [-]
01:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.014333 = 0.043 BTC [-]
01:06 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.01415 = 0.1981 BTC [-]
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.01 = 4.02 BTC [+]
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072308 = 3.1244 BTC [+]
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8751 @ 0.00072327 = 6.3293 BTC [+]
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00073025 = 6.5723 BTC [+]
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16878 @ 0.0007305 = 12.3294 BTC [+]
01:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.0142 = 0.1988 BTC [+]
01:26 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.414502 BTC [-]
01:26 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.414501 = 2.0725 BTC [-]
01:26 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.414499 BTC [-]
01:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.401 BTC [-]
01:29 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.00997 = 0.997 BTC [-]
01:32 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.000618 = 0.0124 BTC [-]
01:33 assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.002 BTC [-]
01:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.0142 = 0.5396 BTC [+]
01:33 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 33 @ 0.002815 = 0.0929 BTC [-]
01:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
01:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.014332 = 1.4332 BTC [-]
01:42 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0142 = 0.6674 BTC [+]
01:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01435 = 0.7175 BTC [+]
01:44 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.0144 = 0.288 BTC [+]
01:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.445999 BTC [+]
01:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0144 = 0.0576 BTC [+]
01:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.446 = 2.892 BTC [+]
01:48 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0144 = 0.4176 BTC [+]
01:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 43 @ 1.446 = 62.178 BTC [+]
01:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.448 = 7.24 BTC [+]
01:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.448 = 7.24 BTC [+]
01:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.448 BTC [+]
01:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009962 BTC [-]
01:54 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.00996 = 0.0797 BTC [-]
01:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 47 @ 0.0144 = 0.6768 BTC [+]
01:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0145 = 0.1305 BTC [+]
01:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0145 = 0.087 BTC [+]
01:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2132 @ 0.00071756 = 1.5298 BTC [-]
01:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 110 @ 0.0142 = 1.562 BTC [-]
02:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 210 @ 0.014 = 2.94 BTC [-]
~ 19 minutes ~
02:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 250 @ 0.0013 = 0.325 BTC [+]
02:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6368 @ 0.00071449 = 4.5499 BTC [-]
02:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 225 @ 0.01429999 = 3.2175 BTC [+]
02:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 68 @ 0.0143 = 0.9724 BTC [+]
02:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4035 = 0.807 BTC [-]
02:41 dub http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_in_China#Difficulties
02:41 dub In March 1992 Chinese authorities found that Shenzhen reflective materials institute had copied 650,000 Microsoft Corporation holograms. The institute was found to be guilty of trademark infringement against Microsoft, but was fined a mere US $252. Losses to Microsoft as a result of the infringement are estimated at US $30 million.
02:41 dub pwned
02:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5769 @ 0.0007231 = 4.1716 BTC [+]
02:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01429999 = 0.715 BTC [-]
02:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 34 @ 0.01429999 = 0.4862 BTC [-]
02:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 35 @ 0.0145 = 0.5075 BTC [+]
03:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007118 = 3.0757 BTC [-]
03:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8279 @ 0.00071165 = 5.8918 BTC [-]
03:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.01429999 = 0.5863 BTC [-]
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 132 @ 0.0143 = 1.8876 BTC [+]
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 97 @ 0.014333 = 1.3903 BTC [+]
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.014395 = 1.4395 BTC [+]
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0144 BTC [+]
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01444 = 2.888 BTC [+]
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 75 @ 0.01449999 = 1.0875 BTC [+]
03:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 121 @ 0.0145 = 1.7545 BTC [+]
03:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01475 = 0.0738 BTC [+]
03:05 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0146 = 0.0292 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 425 @ 0.0145 = 6.1625 BTC [-]
03:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 67 @ 0.01475 = 0.9883 BTC [+]
03:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 33 @ 0.01474 = 0.4864 BTC [-]
03:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 95 @ 0.01475 = 1.4013 BTC [+]
03:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 122 @ 0.0148 = 1.8056 BTC [+]
03:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.444 BTC [-]
03:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.444 = 4.332 BTC [-]
03:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.445 = 7.225 BTC [+]
03:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.448 = 2.896 BTC [+]
~ 25 minutes ~
03:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0148 = 0.1036 BTC [+]
03:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 720 @ 0.0007126 = 0.5131 BTC [+]
03:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 160 @ 0.003344 = 0.535 BTC [+]
03:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0148 = 0.444 BTC [+]
03:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 200 @ 0.00172499 = 0.345 BTC [-]
04:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00071248 = 3.4199 BTC [-]
04:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071178 = 3.0756 BTC [-]
04:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [-]
04:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2379 @ 0.00071165 = 1.693 BTC [-]
04:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.0146 = 0.3504 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
04:39 truff1es <Bugpowder> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nZcRU0Op5P4#!>>> omg so good, what an epic story.
04:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 577 @ 0.0007126 = 0.4112 BTC [+]
04:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3779 @ 0.00073025 = 2.7596 BTC [+]
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0148 = 0.296 BTC [+]
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0148 = 0.74 BTC [+]
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0148 = 0.296 BTC [+]
04:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0148 BTC [+]
04:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.448 = 11.584 BTC [+]
05:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.46 = 14.6 BTC [+]
05:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.463 = 4.389 BTC [+]
05:14 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10599 BTC [-]
05:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01499 BTC [+]
05:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 249 @ 0.015 = 3.735 BTC [+]
05:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [+]
05:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.0155 = 1.085 BTC [+]
05:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [-]
05:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0149 = 0.745 BTC [-]
05:26 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01381 = 0.0967 BTC [-]
05:29 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.013989 BTC [+]
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.3098 = 4.3372 BTC [+]
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3099 = 0.6198 BTC [+]
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.31 = 3.1 BTC [+]
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.46 = 7.3 BTC [-]
05:33 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01501 BTC [-]
05:33 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.01501 = 0.03 BTC [-]
05:34 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-]
05:35 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [-]
05:35 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.013 = 0.026 BTC [-]
05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00073025 = 0.5112 BTC [+]
05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00073049 = 3.1564 BTC [+]
05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11244 @ 0.0007309 = 8.2182 BTC [+]
05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00073301 = 1.9425 BTC [+]
05:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17857 @ 0.0007332 = 13.0928 BTC [+]
05:36 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.013989 = 0.028 BTC [+]
05:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0146 = 0.0584 BTC [+]
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 345 @ 0.01440001 = 4.968 BTC [-]
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.0144 = 1.152 BTC [-]
05:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0149 = 0.745 BTC [+]
05:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.463 BTC [+]
05:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 55 @ 0.0148 = 0.814 BTC [-]
05:46 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0146 = 0.4234 BTC [+]
05:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [-]
05:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [-]
05:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00073497 = 3.1758 BTC [+]
05:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5529 @ 0.00073531 = 4.0655 BTC [+]
~ 25 minutes ~
06:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5378 @ 0.00073325 = 3.9434 BTC [-]
06:18 Chaang-Noi so have i missed anything the last few days?
06:29 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 32 @ 0.0013 = 0.0416 BTC [+]
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072999 = 3.1543 BTC [-]
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00072998 = 2.2629 BTC [-]
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00071989 = 2.6636 BTC [-]
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9894 @ 0.00071165 = 7.0411 BTC [-]
06:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2785 @ 0.00070989 = 1.977 BTC [-]
06:36 Chaang-Noi asicminer seems to be kicking ass
06:37 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0149 BTC [+]
06:38 Chaang-Noi yeah 1.5 is kicking ass :)
06:53 KRS1 chaang-noi: you missed a good gox outage last night
06:53 KRS1 I think someone said it was the zero-day nginx exploit
06:55 Chaang-Noi i saw part of it
06:55 Chaang-Noi but its gox so no shock lol
06:55 KRS1 price didnt budge much at all..seems to be a very healthy market maybe?
06:55 KRS1 rsi been looking good
06:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00103 BTC [-]
06:56 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 50 @ 0.00102 = 0.051 BTC [-]
06:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 244 @ 0.001002 = 0.2445 BTC [-]
06:57 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 540 @ 0.001001 = 0.5405 BTC [-]
06:59 KRS1 where ya been still moving
06:59 Chaang-Noi went to bkk for beer and btxc trading
07:00 KRS1 heh
07:01 KRS1 thats...one of those things that probably shouldnt go together..reminds me of nights gambling and drinking the complimentary spirits..you make dumb moves after a while.
07:02 Chaang-Noi i meet a guy to trade btc for fiat
07:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00073088 = 3.1581 BTC [+]
07:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11389 @ 0.00073096 = 8.3249 BTC [+]
07:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0142 = 1.42 BTC [-]
07:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.0149 = 0.0447 BTC [+]
07:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.4619 = 7.3095 BTC [+]
07:09 KRS1 oh..nice. trading drunk online..buy..sell..can get you into hot water quick.
07:10 KRS1 not drunk but even a few beers can make you choose foolishly
07:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.462 = 2.924 BTC [+]
07:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.463 = 8.778 BTC [+]
07:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.464 = 11.712 BTC [+]
07:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.465 = 27.835 BTC [+]
07:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41131 BTC [-]
07:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4112 BTC [-]
07:21 Chaang-Noi not sure why anyone would sell asic miner right now...
07:21 Chaang-Noi nearing 20 ghs now
07:22 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.003165 = 0.0127 BTC [+]
07:26 KRS1 those figures ^^ is that what they're pulling in and will be divided up into dividends
07:27 Chaang-Noi am pays dividends weekly
07:27 Chaang-Noi this stock should be worth 2.5 to 3 btc
07:28 Chaang-Noi its undervalued cuz some of the first investers ahve a shit load of it and want to take sopme profits
07:28 Chaang-Noi many people have 10,000 shares of this
07:28 Chaang-Noi well over a million usd
07:29 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 7 @ 0.0013 = 0.0091 BTC [+]
07:29 KRS1 my god
07:30 Chaang-Noi yeah
07:30 Chaang-Noi i know about 5 instant millionairs
07:30 KRS1 so i would probably be better off buying this otc
07:30 KRS1 thats gangster
07:30 KRS1 im looking at btc-tc right now, i have been thinking about this for a while..also checked out havelock
07:30 Chaang-Noi i only had about 4k shrares
07:31 Chaang-Noi buying directly might be best, who knows
07:31 KRS1 so right now 4k X ~ 1.2 btc or something
07:31 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01301 BTC [+]
07:31 Chaang-Noi 1.45 more like it
07:31 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [-]
07:32 Chaang-Noi iv sold some, i had 5500 but then sold to about 3,500 or so now
07:32 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 300 @ 0.012607 = 3.7821 BTC [-]
07:32 Chaang-Noi 3500 x 1.4 x 111
07:32 KRS1 i see quite a few asicminer
07:32 KRS1 how do i know whats right for me
07:32 Chaang-Noi still over half a million in fiat
07:32 KRS1 nice
07:33 Chaang-Noi plus i get weekly dividends that are fun
07:33 KRS1 otc might be a better choice for me
07:33 Chaang-Noi i sold the other shares for coke and whores money, we all need that
07:33 Chaang-Noi okay
07:33 Chaang-Noi ineedausername is selling otc on the forum now
07:34 KRS1 whats a low dividend payment for 1 share and whats a good one
07:34 Chaang-Noi i dont understand the question
07:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071236 = 3.0781 BTC [-]
07:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11879 @ 0.00071203 = 8.4582 BTC [-]
07:35 KRS1 LOL yes we all need that hahaha just got into it the other day with some broad who ripped me off for $60 bucks..she gave a hell of a lapdance 20 minutes earlier though
07:35 KRS1 whats a good dividend to recieve for one share of am for example
07:35 Chaang-Noi this week was .011 ish
07:36 KRS1 not wanting to resell, but for the dividends mainly
07:36 KRS1 not bad
07:36 Chaang-Noi well they have 20 th now but have ordered 250 more and should have 1000 th by the end of the year
07:36 KRS1 but even the price on am shares will go up
07:36 KRS1 damn
07:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [+]
07:36 KRS1 avalon hardware mostly?
07:37 Chaang-Noi they made thier own
07:37 KRS1 tight
07:37 KRS1 pretty solid operation from what ive seen so far
07:41 saulimus how do you guys deal with bitcoin volatility while holding btc assets? just don't care about it at all?
07:43 davout pretty much
07:43 KRS1 you really cant think in terms of that
07:45 Chaang-Noi bitcoin volatility? from our perspective its the rest of the world that is not stable
07:46 Chaang-Noi we know how many btcs there are and will be, fiat? lol
07:46 Chaang-Noi who the fuck knows
07:47 davout Chaang-Noi: couldn't have said it better
07:48 Chaang-Noi :)
07:54 jurov http://www.anyoption.com/bitcoin-options .. now how one should read it
07:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1911 @ 0.00073096 = 1.3969 BTC [+]
07:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3713 @ 0.00073099 = 2.7142 BTC [+]
07:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4026 @ 0.0007353 = 2.9603 BTC [+]
07:55 Chaang-Noi jurov your site?
07:55 jurov no, just popped out in a google ads and looks interesting
07:55 jurov so they seem to be binary, each costs $100 and pays out $220 , am i right?
07:56 Chaang-Noi well unless i know who runs it im going to assume its a scam site
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00071203 = 1.2966 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 415 @ 0.00070989 = 0.2946 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070979 = 3.067 BTC [-]
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4293 @ 0.00070978 = 3.0471 BTC [-]
07:56 Chaang-Noi mp you know about this? EX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00071203 = 1.2966 BTC [-]
07:56 Chaang-Noi <assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 415 @ 0.00070989 = 0.2946 BTC [-]
07:56 Chaang-Noi <assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070979 = 3.067 BTC [-]
07:56 Chaang-Noi <assbot> [MPEX]
07:56 Chaang-Noi fuck
07:56 Chaang-Noi http://www.anyoption.com/bitcoin-options
07:57 Namworld Looks neat...
07:57 Chaang-Noi but is it a scam?
07:58 jurov *shrugs* not planning to touch it anyway
07:58 Chaang-Noi yeah
07:58 davout they're in cyprus
07:58 Namworld Doesn't look like it
07:58 Chaang-Noi hmm
07:58 davout scam state :-)
07:58 davout http://www.anyoption.com/about-anyoption-trading
07:58 Chaang-Noi am is over 20 th now
07:59 Chaang-Noi "Our main data source for pricing and expiry rates is Thomson Reuters."
08:00 jurov ;;bc,stats
08:00 gribble Current Blocks: 235301 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 570 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10874674.6045 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.92337
08:02 KRS1 its a scam state, but also one that needs solutions..so could this be one
08:02 mircea_popescu hi all
08:02 Chaang-Noi John Cane: What do you mean by 4 btc community?
08:02 Chaang-Noi akmar: btc means bitcoin its is the currancy code
08:02 Chaang-Noi akmar: how long has this site been around?
08:02 Chaang-Noi John Cane: Our platform is active since 2008.
08:02 Chaang-Noi they say they ahve been here since 2008 hahaha
08:02 mircea_popescu lolk
08:02 jurov this is not a solution... just a betting that doesn't touch bitcoin actually
08:03 daybyter Hello mircea_popescu!
08:03 jurov hi mircea
08:03 mircea_popescu anyway, in the interest of full disclosure :
08:03 mircea_popescu about ten days ago i was cleanning out my lawnmower when something inside pricked my finger
08:03 mircea_popescu which made a fucking obnoxious wound kept me from typing properly for a coupla days
08:03 davout ohai
08:03 mircea_popescu but then! it didn't heal properly!
08:04 mircea_popescu so now i just had it surgified, and apparently the doctor removed a very fine thorn bit from my finger.
08:04 jurov so now you are Mircea Four-fingered.
08:04 mircea_popescu at this point it either heals or i get magical flesh eating bacteria and die.
08:04 mircea_popescu so pray for me or else all your bitcoinz!
08:04 Chaang-Noi hmm, i would ahve assumed you paid people to cut your grass
08:04 davout s/magical/romanian/
08:04 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi its not that much and i cant sit in the chair all day long.
08:04 davout Chaang-Noi: why pay someone to do the fun things?
08:05 jurov Chaang-Noi: mp prolly likes to inhale that fresh grass smell
08:05 error4733 can you make withdraws with 4 fingers ?
08:05 mircea_popescu jurov i have a mulch pile and everything
08:05 mircea_popescu error4733 nope.
08:05 ThickAsThieves lol
08:05 jurov hehe
08:05 mircea_popescu gotta push 6 buttons at the same time
08:05 error4733 shit
08:05 Chaang-Noi yard work, dont enjoy it so much, i just take walks with my dogas
08:05 ThickAsThieves 10-finger verification system
08:05 Chaang-Noi dogs
08:05 ThickAsThieves gets ya every time
08:05 mircea_popescu i have it set up like a sort of mario knockoff
08:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.01495 = 3.7375 BTC [+]
08:06 mircea_popescu sorry error4733 but your withdrawal is in another castle.
08:06 KRS1 first time I've seen binary options for btc
08:06 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi unless you're 85lbs coma survivor lawnmowing is no hard work eh ?
08:06 mircea_popescu not like i work my own coal mine.
08:06 error4733 all my shiny gold coin...
08:06 ThickAsThieves sdice has many options
08:06 davout mircea_popescu: LOL
08:06 jurov actually i'm the mowing expert in our family, too
08:06 mircea_popescu KRS1 nah, were like 2-3 before.
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0151 = 0.755 BTC [+]
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01512 = 0.756 BTC [+]
08:07 KRS1 not much call for that eh
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01512 = 0.756 BTC [+]
08:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 55 @ 0.01524 = 0.8382 BTC [+]
08:07 mircea_popescu jurov i didn't know kensians had families :D
08:07 jurov kensians?
08:07 Chaang-Noi no it is not hard work, id rather do hard work than cut grass something i can pay the local combodian 3$ to do it (and he does a hell of a better job than i could do anyway)
08:07 mircea_popescu (that, for the two irc trolls who don't know finance at all, was a joke, in relation to all the recent furror about nial making that stateemnt re keynes being gay)
08:07 Chaang-Noi i dont mind doing work, but i dont like doing work where i dont need to think.
08:07 error4733 3$/day
08:07 error4733 ?
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01524 = 0.762 BTC [+]
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01525 = 1.525 BTC [+]
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+]
08:08 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi if you don't think you get your finger pricked.
08:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01467 = 0.1027 BTC [-]
08:08 Chaang-Noi error that is like 3 hours of work, and i over pay
08:08 Chaang-Noi mp :)
08:08 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.014675 = 0.3962 BTC [+]
08:08 error4733 lol over pay like a boss...
08:08 mircea_popescu $3!
08:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.0155 = 2.325 BTC [+]
08:09 Chaang-Noi i live near camobida, lots of works need work
08:09 error4733 1$/h nice wage ! at least you can buy food to stay alive
08:09 Chaang-Noi a teacher makes $200 a month starting out, a no skilled illigal cambodian gets fuck all
08:09 jurov did you try offering few teaspoons of bitcoins?
08:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01512 = 1.512 BTC [-]
08:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.01512 = 7.56 BTC [-]
08:10 Chaang-Noi a good meal is about a dollar here
08:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0151 = 0.755 BTC [-]
08:10 Chaang-Noi AM over 1.5 nice :)
08:10 Chaang-Noi and that was a sell off, lol
08:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.0155 = 3.875 BTC [+]
08:11 Chaang-Noi if you guys had 100k usd in fiat and wanted to start a btc business what would you do?
08:11 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i would hire fred wilson.
08:11 error4733 gest house in thailand
08:11 ThickAsThieves i have a few ideas
08:11 error4733 guest*
08:11 Chaang-Noi fred wilson. to cut my grass?
08:11 ThickAsThieves i have a google search killer idea
08:12 ThickAsThieves and an online training software SaaS idea
08:12 mircea_popescu people now sign emails to me with Hoping to not get in your "dumb persons" list, X
08:12 ThickAsThieves but 100k probly aint enough
08:12 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi pretty cool idea that.
08:12 Chaang-Noi :)
08:14 Chaang-Noi i know a guy who wants to get into a btc and have a business, has 100k but i have no idea what to do with it
08:14 Chaang-Noi only idea is to have an exchange but i dont know...
08:14 ThickAsThieves oh, a bitcoin biz
08:14 ThickAsThieves porn?
08:14 jurov and in case you need deratisation, i also recommend you to hire the rat poison expert, what was his name...
08:14 error4733 drug ?
08:14 Chaang-Noi hmm btc and porn
08:14 Chaang-Noi do people still pay for porn?
08:14 ThickAsThieves bitcoin PR/mktg agency
08:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.015552 = 1.5552 BTC [+]
08:15 error4733 1$/h ?
08:15 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi if he's located in where you are he could start a business making retreats for bitcoiners.
08:15 Chaang-Noi yeah bitcoin needs good pr people
08:15 Chaang-Noi he is in the usa
08:15 ThickAsThieves bitcoin consulting in general
08:15 error4733 mp +1
08:15 mircea_popescu if he's in the usa he should spend it to relocate
08:15 jurov Chaang-Noi: just send him to supernode conference.
08:15 mircea_popescu best business decision ever.
08:16 Chaang-Noi yeah he works and has a family
08:16 mircea_popescu which is why it costs 100k
08:16 Chaang-Noi i think he would just give me the 100k to do whatever
08:16 error4733 yes
08:16 Chaang-Noi yeah he wont go, iv told him for years to get the fuck out
08:17 ThickAsThieves use it to manipulate litecoin prices
08:17 mircea_popescu you know this is so very much like pre-iron curtain europe
08:17 mircea_popescu people just don't want to go.
08:17 mircea_popescu then they queue up for bread.
08:17 ThickAsThieves it wont be bread this time
08:17 mircea_popescu actually if it were bread i tyhink it'd be a blessing
08:17 ThickAsThieves we're too food-focused
08:18 mircea_popescu think, a 600 calorie average diet in the us for a year ?!
08:18 ThickAsThieves itll be somehting else
08:18 mircea_popescu population health +9000
08:18 Chaang-Noi usa has a lot of food
08:18 error4733 Chaang-Noi : how much to buy a land and built a nice guest house in thailand ? Not the most expensive place but not the worst neither
08:18 Chaang-Noi he wants to do just btc stuff
08:18 error4733 just buy BTC hand hoar ?
08:18 Chaang-Noi id do tourist shit in myanmar, loas or cambodia, too much shit here
08:19 ThickAsThieves roll the 100k on sdice 85%, probly save a lot of time
08:19 Chaang-Noi i told him to just hold btc, buti thought id ask here if anyone had any ideas
08:19 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves lol
08:19 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi obviously he can buy shares.
08:19 mircea_popescu you don't need us to tell you that.
08:19 Chaang-Noi if anything he would buy AM
08:19 error4733 AM shares !
08:20 Chaang-Noi but i doubt he will, he wants to get into the almost virgin btc world
08:20 mircea_popescu am at 1.5 ?
08:20 Chaang-Noi about that yeah
08:20 Chaang-Noi over 20 th now
08:21 ThickAsThieves btc space program
08:21 jurov Chaang-Noi: just send him around here
08:21 jurov let himself explain what he wants
08:21 ThickAsThieves btc satellite for internet access to syria etc
08:21 Chaang-Noi okay ill do that
08:21 Chaang-Noi if he can figure out irc
08:22 jurov he can use webchat in worst case
08:22 Chaang-Noi i was wondering, lets say i was in antartica and i wanted to send some btc, how the fuck would that work?
08:22 jurov use iridium?
08:22 Chaang-Noi do they have satalite internet there?
08:22 ThickAsThieves carrier pigeon
08:22 jurov they do
08:22 mircea_popescu sure they do have satellite
08:22 Chaang-Noi id ahve to buy a special phone or computer?
08:23 error4733 srsly, i made the same mistake, try to invest instead of bought btc ! i punch myself eveytime i saw my stock take the dust
08:23 error4733 yes
08:23 error4733 iridum with modem
08:23 Chaang-Noi so it should be doable with out too much trougble if i find myself down there?
08:23 jurov Chaang-Noi: http://www.iridium.com/Products.aspx
08:24 orkaa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_in_Antarctica
08:24 Chaang-Noi good links guys thx
08:25 error4733 https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/21753-satellite-phone-motorola-9505-world-free-shipping-escrow
08:26 Chaang-Noi error, does not seem like i could run a btc client on that phone
08:26 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136810239326.jpg
08:26 mircea_popescu (no tits)
08:27 Chaang-Noi okay so im sure i could get something to work, if i make it down there ill have to look into it more
08:28 Chaang-Noi anyone have any idea if this house is worth more than 50 btc? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199199.0
08:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.0001 = 4.0002 BTC [-]
08:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.014675 BTC [+]
08:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01545 = 1.545 BTC [-]
08:31 Chaang-Noi i just wonder if it is a scam
08:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.015475 = 1.5475 BTC [+]
08:32 ThickAsThieves havelockers ball
08:32 error4733 Chaan-Noi u dont run any client on phone. you connect the phone to your laptop and its like a modem
08:32 ThickAsThieves er, havelockers are ballers
08:33 Chaang-Noi error okay cool
08:33 Chaang-Noi anyone here german?
08:34 andreas I'm german...
08:34 Chaang-Noi andreas what do you think this house is worth? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199199.0
08:34 jurov if the house is structurally sound, then it's worth 50btc
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 60 @ 0.015475 = 0.9285 BTC [+]
08:35 Chaang-Noi no way i could tell with out going there eh?
08:35 truff1es looks like blood on the one of the tiled walls
08:35 mircea_popescu a house in germany is worth 50 btc just on the premise it is allowed to stand.
08:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.015475 BTC [+]
08:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.015475 = 0.7738 BTC [+]
08:36 Chaang-Noi hmm, 100 btc?
08:36 andreas yeah...I followed this thread for a while, too...
08:36 truff1es id buy it and demolish, that looks terrible
08:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2.06 = 12.36 BTC [+]
08:37 andreas I'm not so sure about the monument protection issue yet.
08:37 Chaang-Noi i have no idea what houses are worth in germany
08:37 andreas although the owner claims otherwise, I know...
08:37 Chaang-Noi yeah but might be scam
08:37 Chaang-Noi or a lie
08:37 Chaang-Noi he wont give us the address
08:37 andreas atm, I think there will be restrictions if you renovate it...
08:38 Chaang-Noi well, what if i just want to burn it to the ground?
08:38 andreas so...you have to keep the facade, if you renovate it.
08:38 Chaang-Noi id guess that would be costly?
08:38 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.014675 = 0.0881 BTC [+]
08:38 andreas you won't be allowed to use modern windows with plastic frames etc.
08:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.015475 BTC [+]
08:39 truff1es why should he give out the address of his gf's place..
08:39 andreas I guess you'll have to replace all electricity lines, water installation etc.
08:39 Chaang-Noi well the outside does look cool
08:39 jurov there is not street view there.. but few interesting photos of other ruins
08:39 andreas you won't even be allowed just to leave it rotting!
08:39 Chaang-Noi jurov you cant find it on google?
08:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 38 @ 0.015475 = 0.5881 BTC [+]
08:40 Chaang-Noi lol i cant just leave it?
08:40 andreas So the local authorities will force you to renovate it, I guess...
08:40 andreas next problem...who wants to live there?
08:40 jurov no, i thought i'll find it via street view, ichstedt is small
08:40 Chaang-Noi any idea how much that woujld cost? i honestly have no idea
08:40 jurov but only a few photos there
08:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.015479 = 1.5479 BTC [+]
08:41 andreas in most areas there are no stores or shops anymore.
08:41 Chaang-Noi jurov think its a scam or just not enough photos?
08:41 mircea_popescu there is never going to be "Enough photos"
08:41 andreas so I guess you'll have to drive like 20 miles just to buy a slice of bread.
08:41 jurov Chaang-Noi: how would i know i just report what i found on google maps
08:41 davout seen this : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dyr12/coinbase_coinlab_and_others_sued_for_violating/ ?
08:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+]
08:42 andreas there's a very good chance, that there's no internet connection there.
08:42 Chaang-Noi jurov no idea, just asking for your thoughts, iv not checked it out
08:42 truff1es can u make a legit offer to buy, drive up to check out the property, and then reject it?
08:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.003001 = 1.8006 BTC [-]
08:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00295 = 0.177 BTC [-]
08:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0029001 = 2.9001 BTC [-]
08:42 jurov actually it looks quite populous area.. and they promise 8gbit internet
08:42 andreas what?
08:42 Chaang-Noi truffles if i do so in the next 3 days
08:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0156 = 1.56 BTC [+]
08:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8334 @ 0.0029 = 24.1686 BTC [-]
08:43 jurov halle (quite big city) 71 km away , not bad
08:43 mircea_popescu davout that 5mn round just in time eh.
08:43 jurov andreas, read the op
08:43 andreas you can't get such a connection in the middle of berlin or munich as a private user...
08:43 truff1es id want to know who my neighbors are
08:43 Chaang-Noi http://postimg.org/image/ylmkg86op/ seems next to a church
08:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.0159 = 0.3021 BTC [+]
08:44 davout mircea_popescu: what?
08:44 truff1es lots of dings with the clock
08:44 mircea_popescu that was the fred wilson refernce. coinbase closed a 5mn deal a little back
08:44 mircea_popescu not stellar, but hey. they needed the cash to stay in the picture.
08:44 davout oh lol, i was like 5 minutes what?
08:45 jurov yes the church is on panoramio
08:45 davout yea, i heard about it
08:45 mircea_popescu minutes is min :D
08:45 davout paymium's funding is apparently
08:45 davout in another castle
08:45 davout for the time being
08:45 davout 5mn nom nom nom
08:46 andreas I can tell you, that better houses where sold at the hunsrĂĽck or in hessen for 15000-20000 euros.
08:46 andreas with functioning water and electricity installation.
08:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [+]
08:46 andreas so you can move in within 4 weeks, or so.
08:46 jurov brrrrr hunsrueck... friend ended there, has to pay 80 euro for half decent internet
08:47 andreas not renovate it for 5 years...
08:47 jurov total end of the world
08:47 Chaang-Noi i think i will just pass on that house, really seems like more work than it is worth
08:47 andreas what do you think, thĂĽringen is?
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.015475 BTC [-]
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 845 @ 0.01547501 = 13.0764 BTC [+]
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.015475 = 0.3095 BTC [-]
08:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [+]
08:50 davout mircea_popescu: http://oi43.tinypic.com/9id66e.jpg
08:50 mircea_popescu its a portmanteau
08:50 mircea_popescu from aloof and lofty
08:52 davout :-)
08:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0158 = 1.58 BTC [+]
08:53 mircea_popescu andreas so does germany generally suck as a place to livei n ?
08:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.0158 = 2.37 BTC [+]
08:54 mircea_popescu dude! i found it omg!
08:54 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/b447b32d445ba19dba3d2a3dbd7fd86d/tumblr_mjelkmZX3G1qhv81zo2_r1_500.gif
08:54 andreas http://www.diepmans.com/index.php?action=angebotsdetails&angebotID=1231
08:54 andreas I think, this is better...
08:54 mircea_popescu this is me when i go to conferences, press events etc.
08:54 andreas ...as an example...
08:55 andreas mircea_popescu: it's hard to compare for me, since I've never lived anywhere else..
08:55 mircea_popescu well now, that you must change.
08:55 andreas but I think, you cannot say, that living in country x sucks...
08:55 andreas it depends where and how you live.
08:55 Chaang-Noi andreas im shocked houses are so cheap in germany
08:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01585 = 3.17 BTC [+]
08:56 andreas with enough money, you can have a decent live almost anywhere...
08:56 andreas Chaang-Noi: you have to consider the demographic problems here...
08:56 Chaang-Noi 35k euro is nothing for a house, or at least int he usa
08:56 mircea_popescu well if you can't renovate your house
08:56 mircea_popescu then no, it does suck, and its not a question of money.
08:56 Chaang-Noi 300k or os needed for a decent house in the usa
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.0159 = 0.6519 BTC [+]
08:57 andreas not enough kids, germans are getting fewer and fewer...
08:57 andreas and the young people go, where the work is.
08:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00073496 = 5.1815 BTC [+]
08:57 andreas there are no companies in thĂĽringen or hunsrĂĽck etc.
08:57 Chaang-Noi i see
08:57 andreas so you cannot make a living there in most cases.
08:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 48 @ 0.01595 = 0.7656 BTC [+]
08:58 andreas so they move into bigger towns, like cologne, munich etc.
08:58 andreas the old people stay in their villages, but they don't need internet etc. often.
08:58 Chaang-Noi hmm, i am interested in getting some place in europe as a base to travel around, but no idea where, i think it wont be spain however...
08:59 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi timisoara.
08:59 andreas so shops are closing etc.
08:59 Chaang-Noi what does a decent flat cost there? im not sure i even want a house
08:59 andreas buying houses in cologne or munich is crazy expensive now...
08:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400003 BTC [-]
08:59 andreas even renting an appartment is a huge problem..
08:59 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi why buy anyway ? you can just rent.
09:00 Chaang-Noi id be intersted in timisoara
09:00 mircea_popescu starting from whatever, 200 a month.
09:00 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400002 BTC [-]
09:00 Chaang-Noi furnished?
09:00 mircea_popescu yeah
09:00 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
09:00 Chaang-Noi wellthats fine then
09:00 mircea_popescu i'm here specifically because it makes all of europe accessible.
09:01 mircea_popescu you can fly anywhere within an hour or two, the airport is 20 minutes away (from where i live) etc
09:01 Chaang-Noi i might buy a car
09:01 mircea_popescu well... may be three hours to lisbon or moscow, but you get the idea.
09:01 mircea_popescu sure, west roads are ok. east a little iffy.
09:02 Chaang-Noi idealy id hook up with a local who could assit me in traveling and the like, i only know english
09:02 Chaang-Noi a bit of spanish
09:02 andreas http://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/miete/preisexplosion-und-kein-ende-19656396.bild.html
09:03 andreas see Chaang-Noi?
09:03 Chaang-Noi i see the photo
09:03 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi so pick up some chick
09:03 andreas That's what it's looks like if a flat in hamburg is open for rent.
09:03 Chaang-Noi but lack context
09:03 Chaang-Noi ahh
09:03 Chaang-Noi rent controlled?
09:03 andreas 100 people want to take a look.
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [-]
09:04 andreas because there are so few appartments available in the bigger towns here.
09:04 jurov yea, that's how he ended on deep hunsrueck
09:04 jurov *in
09:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01595 = 0.1595 BTC [+]
09:05 mircea_popescu yeah, so apparently germany does suck to live in.
09:05 mircea_popescu people expecting you to accomodate them rather than bending over backwards for your comfort.
09:05 Chaang-Noi hmm, honestly german girls are not really that hot for the most part
09:05 andreas nah,,,I wouldn't say that in general...
09:05 andreas the weather is not extreme...
09:06 andreas no storms, floods etc in general...
09:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-]
09:06 jurov summers in germany suck... always cloudy
09:06 andreas the whole infrastructure etc works...
09:06 andreas no electricity problems, water supply problems etc.
09:06 jurov yes carpathian basin is better clima-wise
09:07 andreas I can walk in 5 mins to the next hospital.
09:07 mircea_popescu andreas that is besides the point. who wants to live somewhere where "there are no apartments" ?
09:07 mircea_popescu fu, get cracking, build more.
09:07 andreas I said: in the middle of bigger towns, like munich,hamburg,berlin etc.
09:07 mircea_popescu you mean like, downtown ?
09:08 andreas in my hometown, you can find an appartment with no problems...
09:08 mircea_popescu a. then i misunderstood. obviously city centre is a limited supply.
09:09 andreas and you have to consider, that the economy still works quite well in germany.
09:09 andreas that's why so many young folks from spain etc want to come here...
09:09 jurov apparently finding a rent in vicinity of s-bahn outside city center is a problem, too
09:10 andreas yeah...
09:10 andreas even 20km outside of munich you'll have to pay > 500 euros to rent a small flat...
09:11 MJR_ hi everyone
09:11 davout ohai
09:11 andreas Hi!
09:11 MJR_ davout: meteor is a success
09:11 MJR_ i love this framework
09:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01585 = 0.0951 BTC [-]
09:12 davout it looked awesome in the demo
09:12 kakobrekla bids are now higher than asks http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
09:12 davout did you manage to make some sort of access control/user management easily ?
09:12 Chaang-Noi nice kako :)
09:13 Chaang-Noi wait higher?
09:13 Chaang-Noi that chart could be set to anything :)
09:15 MJR_ you can check out the alpha version at buttonwood.btcshares.com
09:15 MJR_ and no, i haven't implemented user accounts yet, that is the next phase
09:15 MJR_ after that geolocation features
09:15 mircea_popescu MJR_ how did your central park orgy work out btw ?
09:15 MJR_ and then integrate with coinapult maybe
09:16 kakobrekla not enough girls showed up
09:16 MJR_ mircea_popescu: it was union square park, and it went well
09:16 MJR_ kakobrekla:TRUE
09:16 mircea_popescu you have to start a blog
09:16 MJR_ i have
09:16 mircea_popescu or get some girl to blog for you
09:16 mircea_popescu yes but in the old sense of the term
09:16 MJR_ blog.btchshares.com
09:16 mircea_popescu here is how it went, here are pix, chronicle
09:16 mircea_popescu blogs were originally historical record of sorts.
09:16 MJR_ blog.btcshares.com i will have the youtube video up there soon, as well as pics and a full recap
09:17 mircea_popescu aha! coolness.
09:17 mircea_popescu link here the recap when you get it
09:17 MJR_ i definitely will, i've been pretty tired, between work and trying to get the app working
09:17 MJR_ ny times wrote about it though
09:18 mircea_popescu i saw.
09:18 MJR_ i think financial times should have an article soon, i'm supposed to grab drinks with that reporter this weekend
09:18 Chaang-Noi what was this?
09:18 MJR_ read blog :)
09:18 mircea_popescu o also, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-dont-no-biari-i-know-a-littel-java/ i take it everyone knows planeshift ?
09:19 Chaang-Noi it says server not found
09:19 Chaang-Noi Firefox can't find the server at blog.btchshares.com. is the fail just me?
09:20 mircea_popescu no, it's dns crapped out
09:20 Chaang-Noi ahh
09:20 andreas mircea_popescu: are you a java coder?
09:20 mircea_popescu a try btcshares
09:20 mircea_popescu not btcsh
09:20 Chaang-Noi then can some tell me what is going on? i lack context
09:20 MJR_ sorry that was wrong link
09:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.46 = 4.38 BTC [-]
09:20 mircea_popescu andreas nope, i don't code.
09:20 MJR_ blog.btcshares.com
09:20 Chaang-Noi ok thanks
09:21 Chaang-Noi i meet a guy in bkk to trade fiat for btc
09:21 Chaang-Noi and one other guy who wanted to as well but had communications fail
09:22 truff1es i-dont-no-biari-i-know-a-littel-java/ >> wonders if spelling mistake on purpose
09:22 andreas I just hoped to find another Java coder...
09:24 Chaang-Noi so AM mines 1000 btc a day now if id that math right
09:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00073496 = 4.9977 BTC [+]
09:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00072822 = 0.1456 BTC [-]
09:28 mircea_popescu if they keep it up they might just top s.dice's best month
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00073518 = 3.1767 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7971 @ 0.00073531 = 5.8612 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6604 @ 0.00073578 = 4.8591 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00073594 = 8.6105 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00073917 = 6.209 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00074042 = 1.8881 BTC [+]
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18854 @ 0.00074251 = 13.9993 BTC [+]
09:33 Chaang-Noi what is s dice best month?
09:34 Chaang-Noi but anyway im surethis is the best ever stock from ipo just on dividends alone :)
09:34 Chaang-Noi 1500% stock price is pretty epic as well
09:35 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/
09:35 mircea_popescu 20`007 btc in jan
09:35 Chaang-Noi ahh we will kill that
09:36 Chaang-Noi pretty damn sure we will be over 35,000 in may
09:36 Chaang-Noi and then we need to add in the 10,000 units for sale at 2 btc each
09:37 Chaang-Noi with all we are adding and the like id not be shocked if tehy paid out 50k btc this month
09:38 jurov SELL: (CoinBr.iDiff-O):200 @ ฿0.11000000/ea wow someone is srs
09:38 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15178078 = 151.7808 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.15970416 = 159.7042 BTC [-]
09:39 mircea_popescu jurov isthat 11mn diff ?
09:39 KRS-1 so good buys ridhgt now are sdice and asicminer
09:39 jurov mircea_popescu: yes. on may 15.
09:39 mircea_popescu might happen
09:39 Chaang-Noi mp likes s dice, i dont, i like am but mp does not
09:40 jurov they actually need 0.5-0.9% more than that,. to recoup bf fees
09:40 mircea_popescu s.mpoe to rule them all!
09:40 Chaang-Noi you wish :)
09:40 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i think atm by mkt cap its > s.dice and am together mwahaha
09:40 Chaang-Noi mkt cap means shit to me
09:40 mircea_popescu pretty much the only metric i care about.
09:41 jurov threw some more iDiff-Os for 0.115 in, we'll see
09:41 Chaang-Noi am is growing fast, s dice is falling fast
09:41 Chaang-Noi lets see where we are in 6 months
09:41 mircea_popescu in 6 months we will be at the realisation that am is a mining stock, and consequently it's capped.
09:41 ThickAsThieves erik is still making branding and mktg mistakes
09:41 Chaang-Noi and mp AM has [aid bak the ipo prioce like 3 times. s dice has not even once yet
09:41 mircea_popescu won't take 6months either, 2 will be plenty.
09:42 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi that is just a result of friedcat's woeful financial management.
09:42 Chaang-Noi yeah 2 will be plenty
09:42 mircea_popescu he sold 50% of asicminer for 20k btc worth like 150k usd
09:42 Chaang-Noi yeah, he needed 150k
09:42 mircea_popescu eric sold 10% of sdice for ~40k btc, worth like whatever, 4mn
09:42 mircea_popescu this is why people with a clue list on mpex.
09:42 Chaang-Noi lol
09:42 ThickAsThieves mp, the problem with those stats
09:42 ThickAsThieves is they have nothing to do with the actual business
09:43 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves tell you what. as an entrepreneur
09:43 ThickAsThieves just the operator's front loaded income
09:43 mircea_popescu would you rather sell half your business for 0.15 or 10% of it for 4 ?
09:43 Chaang-Noi long term am is going to kill s dice as an investment:) no doubt
09:43 ThickAsThieves thats not the argument
09:43 mircea_popescu it ias.
09:43 ThickAsThieves you arguing for an individual
09:43 mircea_popescu because only an idiot will take the worse deal.
09:43 ThickAsThieves not a business
09:43 mircea_popescu and this means deals select : idiots there, sane people here.
09:43 Chaang-Noi friedcat was late int he game, his company was a long shot... s dice was already established
09:43 ThickAsThieves friedcat is seizing the moment
09:43 ThickAsThieves erik is seizing hooker's asses
09:44 mircea_popescu nah. his time to seize the moment was when the girl said
09:44 jurov there's no reason am's tech lead will stay more than few months
09:44 mircea_popescu actually erik is engaged to this girl he;'s beeb with for what, 7-8 years now ?
09:44 ThickAsThieves mp, so you think erik is managing his business better?
09:44 ThickAsThieves as in, currently
09:44 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no, i think he's just not as financially clueless as friedcat.
09:44 Chaang-Noi jurov in 2 months we should have 200 th or more bfl cant get close tothat
09:45 mircea_popescu the hard working farmer who didn't understand banks ended up poorer than the lazy guy who never worked.
09:45 ThickAsThieves so on one hand erik is better at making money for himself, and the other friedcat is running his business better
09:45 mircea_popescu not quite.
09:45 ThickAsThieves like apple vs google
09:45 mircea_popescu friedcat is quite apt at preventing his investors from realising their risk premiums
09:45 ThickAsThieves google is much more agile
09:45 Chaang-Noi as a share holder im happy with friedcat and would be pissed at eric, but i never bought in cuz i thought eric sold too high
09:45 mircea_popescu erik is just getting a fair deal.
09:46 Chaang-Noi i think erik sold to a bunch of suckers :)
09:46 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi well ya, but you're not exactly famed for having a clue so.
09:46 Chaang-Noi lol
09:46 truff1es eeek
09:46 mircea_popescu selling for a right price != selling to a bunch of suckers.
09:46 ThickAsThieves i think you have to decide which merits matter now
09:46 Chaang-Noi erik did what was best for him, but in the long run i bet people who trusted him dont make their money back
09:46 mircea_popescu it's a simple matter of you trying to make your shoestring into fabled riches.
09:46 truff1es was that a general you or you being chaang?
09:46 mircea_popescu this is not how economy works.
09:47 ThickAsThieves how do you know that friedct isnt already thinking 10 steps ahead?
09:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.429792 BTC [+]
09:47 ThickAsThieves he's not stupid
09:47 mircea_popescu and in general, there's always going to be this wild eyed "o, i will invest 100k into btc i expect 3475786895 billion"
09:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.46 = 7.3 BTC [-]
09:47 mircea_popescu this is just immaturity.
09:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.429793 BTC [+]
09:47 Chaang-Noi he was able to sell it, and that is great for him, im glad he did, but as some one who was looking to buy, i think he sold too high and the people who did give him money wont see it back, i could be wrong but i doubt it
09:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4299 BTC [+]
09:47 ThickAsThieves he is positioned to be the definition of all that is bitcoin mining
09:47 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi and yet you don;t think 1.5 for am is too high.
09:47 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]
09:48 mircea_popescu you're pushing both ends of a strting here.
09:48 ThickAsThieves erik is positioned to be the first bitcoin gambler
09:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [+]
09:48 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves mining is a quite different business from gambling.
09:48 ThickAsThieves indeed
09:48 mircea_popescu you can make, AT MOST, X btc mining.
09:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]
09:48 mircea_popescu there's no cap to how much gambling can be worth.
09:48 ThickAsThieves thats why he will diversify
09:48 mircea_popescu a casino irl goes for 10bn
09:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [+]
09:48 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]
09:48 ThickAsThieves yeah but erik is working too slowly
09:49 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]
09:49 mircea_popescu if you have the time and curiosity, read warren buffett's discussion of his woes in the textile trade.
09:49 mircea_popescu as a beginning investor he kinda shared some of your mistaken ideas/assumptions.
09:49 ThickAsThieves AM doesnt just mine
09:49 ThickAsThieves they sell miners
09:49 mircea_popescu but the condensed moral is : it's never worth it to participate in a commodified business which is being actively researched
09:49 ThickAsThieves and will probably remain market leader in both permanently
09:49 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.014675 = 0.1761 BTC [+]
09:49 mircea_popescu because you'll end up spending loads on new tech but your income is pretty much fixed (or even declining)
09:50 Chaang-Noi sorry phone call
09:50 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the miners are only useful to mine.
09:50 mircea_popescu ie, to compete with their core bvusiness.
09:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.46 = 4.38 BTC [-]
09:50 mircea_popescu just as soon as the fool
09:50 ThickAsThieves this also presumes there arent more ways he can diversify
09:50 mircea_popescu 's margins are out
09:50 jurov ThickAsThieves: you think am is like intel?
09:50 mircea_popescu (ie, people willing to overpay just to feel warmly involved)
09:50 mircea_popescu that business is dead.
09:50 Chaang-Noi buying AM at 1.5 is not the same as buying at .1 i think AM was a long shot and might not have done as well as it did, but it did, and is turningout to be best btc investment evar
09:51 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi only if you get to sell.
09:51 mircea_popescu you should have learned your lesson with pirate.
09:51 Chaang-Noi mp i have sold some at 1.499
09:51 mircea_popescu making bank is only good if you ever get to get it.
09:51 Chaang-Noi what did i learn from pirate mp?
09:51 ThickAsThieves also not that my position in AM is temporal
09:51 mircea_popescu that making 1.5 out of .1 is ONLY GOOD if you actually take the 1.5
09:51 ThickAsThieves I am selling them after all
09:51 ThickAsThieves note*
09:52 Chaang-Noi iv collected a lot more money from AM than i put in, and still hold a large amount
09:52 mircea_popescu which is exactly what's going on here, by refusing his investors liquidity friedcat is fucking them in teh wazoo
09:52 Chaang-Noi and mp lol that you think i know what happened with my accounts with pirate :)
09:52 mircea_popescu course his investors are in general too clueless to realise, so he can manage to get away with it
09:52 Chaang-Noi you*
09:52 ThickAsThieves of course there is risk here
09:52 ThickAsThieves like every investment
09:52 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that's not the contention.
09:52 ThickAsThieves its not like SDICE is less risky
09:53 Chaang-Noi most of his investers are happy with a 300% dividend and a 1500% stock price
09:53 mircea_popescu the contention is : am investors put in .1, took the risk, survived it.
09:53 ThickAsThieves i think many investors are investing in the people
09:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [-]
09:53 mircea_popescu and now... they can't sell because 1 unit sold moves the market
09:53 ThickAsThieves not just mining
09:53 ThickAsThieves sdice liquidity is actually worse tham AM
09:53 mircea_popescu meanwhile clowns argue about how they're happy... well, no, they're stuck.
09:53 Chaang-Noi mp AM is on like every exchange other than yours, and on some of them more than once
09:53 Chaang-Noi it also sells otc
09:53 Chaang-Noi AM is about the most liquid thing ever,
09:54 ThickAsThieves i have a much harder time profiting from my sdice position
09:54 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi every exchange except mpex = every US state except rhodes island
09:54 mircea_popescu lmao no way.
09:54 Chaang-Noi thing is, if it was listed on yuor exchange i would never buy it, no account
09:54 mircea_popescu you;'d prolly dabble in passthroughs,
09:54 mircea_popescu which is adequate to your level anyway neh ?
09:55 ThickAsThieves it's not fair to cloud the debate with insults
09:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
09:55 mircea_popescu as to "most liquid". most liquid means 10k btc a day.
09:55 Chaang-Noi its the only stock i hold at this point and its held direct with friedcat (other than some day trading with the pts)
09:55 mircea_popescu it doth not mean 5k a month or w/e
09:55 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves people need to understand their place, otherwise goats will climb in the tree.
09:56 Chaang-Noi lol mp is just jelly AMis best stock ever and they want nothing to do with him
09:56 ThickAsThieves AM volume has been about 500-1200btc a day for a while now
09:56 Chaang-Noi and he is sad cuz s dice is crashing and that was the only stock he had :/
09:56 mircea_popescu !ticker bt asicminer-pt
09:56 assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1.271 / 1.41753 / 1.49999 (1086 shares, 1539.4 BTC), 7D: 1.12 / 1.33266 / 1.49999 (2301 shares, 3066.5 BTC), 30D: 0.6269 / 1.14142 / 1.75 (7948 shares, 9072 BTC)
09:56 deadweasel http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2008/08/19/the-incredible-tree-climbing-goats-of-morocco/ <-- relevant
09:56 mircea_popescu certainly better than nothing.
09:56 ThickAsThieves plus BF
09:56 ThickAsThieves plus havelock
09:56 ThickAsThieves plus otc
09:56 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15737871 = 157.3787 BTC [+]
09:56 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16558317 = 165.5832 BTC [+]
09:56 ThickAsThieves plus my fractionals
09:56 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i own millions of s.mpoe. it went from 2 to 70
09:56 Chaang-Noi there are 5 or so pass throughs but most of the volume is OTc anyway
09:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01565 = 0.0313 BTC [-]
09:57 mircea_popescu this is still better than asicminer.
09:57 mircea_popescu and this is why you need to be bitchslapped ocasionally, you forget reality in favour of your own fantasy
09:57 Chaang-Noi but you cant sell 10% at 70 :)
09:57 mircea_popescu heh.
09:57 Chaang-Noi lol, controling the price of your own stock on your own exchange, lol
09:57 mircea_popescu anyway, the moral of all this : amateur hour will keep us small.
09:57 truff1es somebody's getting slapped
09:57 ThickAsThieves i do think caution is important with AM
09:58 mircea_popescu it's just about darned time everybody understands we;'re here to turn btc into a trillion dollar thing
09:58 Chaang-Noi why TAT?
09:58 ThickAsThieves but it's no easy argument saying they are not top 3 if not #1 btc biz
09:58 mircea_popescu not so that X dood gets to turn his civic in for a rover.
09:58 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they are in the top, somewhere between 2 and 3 atm.
09:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-]
09:58 truff1es <deadweasel> http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2008/08/19/the-incredible-tree-climbing-goats-of-morocco/ <-- relevant>>>>>> thats amazing
09:59 ThickAsThieves lol
09:59 Chaang-Noi yeah, goats are pretty damn awesome
09:59 Chaang-Noi we even shit oil
09:59 Chaang-Noi The droppings of the goats contain the kernels of the seeds they consume which are, strangely enough, used by locals to press and grind into oil.
10:01 mircea_popescu i am shocked and amazed how rapidly all that got resolved.
10:01 mircea_popescu this chan may have a future.
10:02 ThickAsThieves NOU!
10:02 mircea_popescu lol
10:02 ThickAsThieves :)
10:02 jurov Goat thinks his droppings contain seeds of truth.
10:02 mircea_popescu lmao. somebody should make a droppings essence, market it as perfume
10:03 mircea_popescu Eau du Truth
10:03 ThickAsThieves or maybe his goat contains seeds of Chaang-Noi
10:03 Chaang-Noi ill be back in 2 months when AM has 200th and bfl is bankrupt and getting sued :)
10:03 ThickAsThieves you'll be back tomorrow, stop lyin
10:03 mircea_popescu bfl is dead, there's no arguing that.
10:03 deadweasel http://theweek.com/article/index/232745/the-8-year-old-who-discovered-a-65000-piece-of-whale-poop <---relevent
10:04 mircea_popescu lol deadweasel bot keeping us appraised :D
10:04 ThickAsThieves poop!
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00072848 = 1.8212 BTC [-]
10:05 ThickAsThieves look at that liquidity!
10:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.015 = 1.2 BTC [-]
10:06 Chaang-Noi lol
10:06 mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe
10:06 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00070757 / 0.00072405 / 0.00074251 (455958 shares, 330.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00068174 / 0.00071656 / 0.00076411 (1817468 shares, 1,302.34 BTC), 30D: 0.00064 / 0.00070525 / 0.00076528 (9997737 shares, 7,050.96 BTC)
10:06 ThickAsThieves it actually is a pretty nice price for mpoe
10:06 mircea_popescu hater.
10:07 mircea_popescu i've not sold any in a while, the volume is lower but the price is on a definite uptrend
10:07 mircea_popescu which is mildly concerning
10:08 ThickAsThieves uh oh
10:08 ThickAsThieves mp is gonna squash the price
10:08 ThickAsThieves its too dam high again
10:08 mircea_popescu nah, not planning to sell any for a while.
10:09 Chaang-Noi btc price is stable... crazy
10:09 mircea_popescu let's rub this in
10:09 mircea_popescu ;;google btc not worth 100+ per stop buying
10:09 gribble People! Bitcoin is not worth 100+ dollars per. STOP BUYING! pe ...: <http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/>; a flaw in the 21 million BTC? - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136740.0>; KRAKEN.COM - US Exchange Opens Beta : Bitcoin - Reddit: (1 more message)
10:09 mircea_popescu o look, above btc talk dun dun dun
10:10 Chaang-Noi i sold at 134 230 and 255 then 135 again, i want 70 or 80
10:10 Chaang-Noi 50 would be3 awesome, i want more coins
10:10 Chaang-Noi still not paid back reptiliia
10:10 mircea_popescu i think lots of people do
10:12 ThickAsThieves MPOE real depth: 15,507,117 shares bid0.00039496 avg price6124.63BTC total
10:13 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves im not sure how trustworthy books are
10:13 mircea_popescu in general, not just mpoe, not just mpex, not even just financials. mtgox book is puffy too
10:14 ThickAsThieves just figured it be interesting
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.0599 = 4.1198 BTC [-]
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.06 = 4.12 BTC [+]
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.07 BTC [+]
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]
10:14 ThickAsThieves sell your HIM, buy ASICM!
10:14 kakobrekla sell him buy her
10:14 jurov ThickAsThieves stfu. we want puts!
10:15 mircea_popescu incidentally, is him mostly a little mining, some cash on hand and bfl preorders ?
10:15 ThickAsThieves make me an offer jurov
10:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.0151 = 1.057 BTC [+]
10:16 ThickAsThieves bearing in mind my resources are limited
10:16 ThickAsThieves HIM is 50% reinvest
10:16 ThickAsThieves started with FPGAs
10:17 ThickAsThieves BFLs on order
10:17 ThickAsThieves it fell when BFL didnt deliver, and now has risen that BFL tricked everyone again
10:18 KRS-1 how often are those dividends paid again?
10:18 ThickAsThieves for HIM?
10:18 KRS-1 weekly?
10:18 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.014675 = 0.1321 BTC [+]
10:18 KRS-1 him-asicminer
10:18 ThickAsThieves ?
10:18 KRS-1 its a good value right now
10:18 ThickAsThieves two different things
10:18 KRS-1 yes asicminer
10:19 ThickAsThieves HIM pays monthly
10:19 ThickAsThieves AM is weekly
10:19 ThickAsThieves with some extras thrown in sometimes
10:19 KRS-1 thanks ill read up on those
10:19 ThickAsThieves friedcat has hinted at quarterly payouts for larger side deals
10:19 ThickAsThieves but i might be reading into it
10:20 mircea_popescu afaik he was just testing the waters to see if he can move to monthly.
10:21 ThickAsThieves he was referring to AM's reporting of financials
10:21 ThickAsThieves and included this
10:21 ThickAsThieves "How much have we spent and are they spent properly? How much have we gain via non-public big selling contracts? Most companies do this on a quarterly or yearly basis. We could and will also do this."
10:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.01565 = 0.36 BTC [+]
10:22 ThickAsThieves so it's a bit wishy washy
10:23 ll him just got some block erruptors too
10:24 ThickAsThieves oh yeah
10:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 295 @ 0.0007423 = 0.219 BTC [+]
10:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4702 @ 0.00074251 = 3.4913 BTC [+]
10:24 ThickAsThieves topace mentioned that yesterday
10:24 ThickAsThieves like 10 or so blades
10:24 ThickAsThieves at 13GH ea
10:24 ll 5
10:24 ThickAsThieves only 5?
10:24 mircea_popescu 65 gh ya
10:25 ThickAsThieves i could swear he said more
10:25 mircea_popescu not so much, but better than nothing
10:25 ThickAsThieves scams!
10:25 ll http://www.lightbox.ca/~james/photo-6.png
10:25 ll ^^ thats them
10:25 ThickAsThieves is that an emergency liquid-cooling pipe?
10:26 mircea_popescu nice cooling lol
10:26 ThickAsThieves hehe
10:26 ThickAsThieves oh it's a frame
10:26 ThickAsThieves i see
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01579 = 0.1263 BTC [+]
10:27 ll yeah diy frame
10:27 ThickAsThieves not bad
10:27 ThickAsThieves much cleaner than my setup...
10:28 jborkl Yeah, the PVC will not retain heat or be conductive, strong enough but still light weight. Good layout
10:28 mircea_popescu actually, its a bad choice because it melts
10:28 mircea_popescu and you don't want your structure melting
10:28 kakobrekla it also burns
10:28 mircea_popescu but for an ad interim works
10:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0151 = 0.0755 BTC [-]
10:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.015 = 0.3 BTC [-]
10:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]
10:29 mircea_popescu sorta ontopic : the weirdest thing i know of is this miner who encased the boards in clay
10:29 mircea_popescu has this sort of cabinet made out of clay.
10:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01579 = 0.079 BTC [+]
10:30 mircea_popescu he won't let me take pictures, but the best part is he just waters it
10:30 mircea_popescu (the outside)
10:30 ThickAsThieves heh
10:30 ThickAsThieves humidifier
10:30 mircea_popescu apparently that thing can take out a shitton of heat that way
10:30 mircea_popescu provided it's not high temperature
10:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
10:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01579 = 0.1579 BTC [+]
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15730002 = 157.3 BTC [-]
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16550667 = 165.5067 BTC [-]
10:35 mircea_popescu so basically... options trading now pretty much works on the short side
10:37 KRS-1 10-13 ghash for $5K? doesnt seem very good
10:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
10:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.46 = 7.3 BTC [-]
10:43 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.014779 = 0.2069 BTC [+]
10:43 jurov they should make miner with vaporizer :D
10:45 mircea_popescu myeah.
10:48 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15198693 = 151.9869 BTC [-]
10:48 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.15992594 = 159.9259 BTC [-]
10:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-]
10:50 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.014779 BTC [+]
10:50 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.465 = 4.395 BTC [+]
10:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0155 = 0.155 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0146 = 0.73 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01452 = 2.178 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01451 = 1.451 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 155 @ 0.01450003 = 2.2475 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 560 @ 0.01450002 = 8.12 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 195 @ 0.0145 = 2.8275 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 26 @ 0.002976 = 0.0774 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0145 = 0.145 BTC [-]
10:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45001 BTC [-]
10:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [-]
10:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [+]
10:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0155 = 0.2325 BTC [+]
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 310 @ 0.0155 = 4.805 BTC [+]
10:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.0147 = 0.1764 BTC [+]
11:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+]
11:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.0145 = 1.16 BTC [-]
11:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0144 = 0.0576 BTC [-]
11:07 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01425 = 0.1425 BTC [-]
11:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.44 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.42331 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4233 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.42321 = 9.9625 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4232 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4231 = 5.6924 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.4231 = 7.1155 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4223 BTC [-]
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0143 = 7.15 BTC [-]
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.01421002 = 7.105 BTC [-]
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01421001 BTC [-]
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 73 @ 0.01421 = 1.0373 BTC [-]
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 210 @ 0.0142 = 2.982 BTC [-]
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1000 @ 0.0142 = 14.2 BTC [-]
11:10 Chaang-Noi lol no volume
11:10 Chaang-Noi onlything trading
11:14 jcpham http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4nJ1YEAp4
11:27 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000697 BTC [+]
11:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.08 BTC [-]
11:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00074138 = 3.2991 BTC [-]
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01475 = 0.0738 BTC [+]
11:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [+]
11:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01479 = 0.1479 BTC [+]
11:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0145 = 1.45 BTC [-]
11:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01475 = 0.2213 BTC [+]
11:40 kakobrekla omg that depth chart is scam, kbtc and kusd scales are independent
11:41 kakobrekla i thought it was fishy.
11:41 MJR_ where?
11:41 kakobrekla http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
11:41 kakobrekla kusd scale changed
11:41 kakobrekla from yest
11:42 mircea_popescu haha
11:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0145 = 0.145 BTC [-]
11:44 Tykling what does the output from assbot mean ?
11:44 kakobrekla poop
11:45 mircea_popescu [exchange] [stocl] [qty] @ [price] = [total] [change]
11:45 kakobrekla oh yeah that
11:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.454 BTC [+]
11:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.45 = 8.7 BTC [-]
11:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01485 = 0.2228 BTC [+]
11:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0149 = 0.0745 BTC [+]
11:46 Chaang-Noi kako that is what i told you
11:46 Chaang-Noi the scale is randomly set and means nothing
11:47 Chaang-Noi like 8 hours ago...
11:47 Bugpowder kakobrekla: yeah I noticed that when I refreshed
11:47 kakobrekla no it means you need to take it into consideration
11:47 Bugpowder last night
11:47 kakobrekla Chaang-Noi hm i missed that somehow
11:47 Chaang-Noi you said "it crossed" but i said that does not mean anything
11:47 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15185377 = 151.8538 BTC [-]
11:48 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.15979648 = 159.7965 BTC [-]
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3001 = 0.6002 BTC [-]
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29 = 2.9 BTC [-]
11:48 Chaang-Noi it was right after you said it crossed, but you did not respond to me
11:48 kakobrekla dunno
11:48 Chaang-Noi but its not a scam
11:49 Chaang-Noi the scale is just set to best fit that data for that time, so when it crosses means nothing
11:49 Chaang-Noi cuz we can make it cross when ever
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0149 = 0.298 BTC [+]
11:50 kakobrekla its as scam as i am a cunt.
11:50 Chaang-Noi lol okay
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0149 = 0.149 BTC [+]
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.01485 = 7.425 BTC [-]
11:51 kakobrekla so did you shop the cane to tortilla guy or what
11:52 Chaang-Noi i paid him the 700
11:52 kakobrekla i mean the pimp cane
11:52 kakobrekla to go along with the hat
11:52 Chaang-Noi kako https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197842.0 but was not me
11:52 kakobrekla aw
11:53 kakobrekla whats with the face
11:53 kakobrekla yeah i know reptile guy but meh
11:53 mircea_popescu is that guy still supernoding ?
11:53 Chaang-Noi i think he is doing it now
11:53 kakobrekla this one is nice too
11:54 kakobrekla http://s20.postimg.org/r7ep43qrh/superfly.jpg
11:54 mircea_popescu mpoe-pr is on vacation and the new girls are fucking clueless
11:54 mircea_popescu so i have no idea like what's what on the trollboard.
11:54 mircea_popescu ahaha kickass
11:54 kakobrekla i just found out today im in scammers parts of the forum lol
11:55 mircea_popescu you're wut ?
11:55 Chaang-Noi scammers part of the forum?
11:55 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192905.0
11:55 kakobrekla just hit page 2 so aparently its done.
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4035 BTC [-]
11:56 Chaang-Noi oh lol
11:56 kakobrekla i mean dead
11:56 Chaang-Noi i was called a scammer once, my scam was i called nefario a scammer, the the guy who called me a scammer got scammed by nefario and appoligized... id not worry kako
11:56 kakobrekla i do not
11:57 kakobrekla its resolved before it got to my attention
11:58 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01469 = 0.1028 BTC [+]
11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01511999 BTC [+]
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01512 = 0.378 BTC [+]
12:00 mircea_popescu did bfl eventually deliver to anyone btw ?
12:00 mircea_popescu seeing how iirc kakobrekla was called a scammer for the bitbet april bet
12:01 kakobrekla from today http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/weve-got-a-butterfly-labs-bitcoin-miner-and-its-pretty-darn-fast/
12:01 kakobrekla mircea_popescu http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/weve-got-a-butterfly-labs-bitcoin-miner-and-its-pretty-darn-fast/
12:01 kakobrekla eh
12:01 kakobrekla http://bfl.ptz.ro/
12:02 kakobrekla this
12:02 mircea_popescu no but i mean tio people.
12:02 mircea_popescu not to press contacts/shills
12:02 kakobrekla see second link
12:02 Chaang-Noi mp yes some people have them
12:02 kakobrekla 1 according to the list :D
12:03 Chaang-Noi scared got one
12:03 Chaang-Noi james got one
12:03 Chaang-Noi some other press people did
12:03 mircea_popescu all i see there is no
12:03 kakobrekla i see one yes
12:04 Chaang-Noi i know personally two people not on that list who have one unit
12:04 kakobrekla ;:bc,stats
12:04 mircea_popescu 9812013/03/0720265Yes0020bitcoinerS
12:04 mircea_popescu da fuck ?
12:04 mircea_popescu o nm
12:07 Chaang-Noi :)
12:08 jurov kakobrekla: another bitstamp lameness: http://imgur.com/a/yg9UH
12:10 kakobrekla hm which part?
12:11 jurov part 9953
12:11 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24795 BTC [+]
12:11 kakobrekla ;;google part 9953
12:11 gribble SSL2129AT/1J NXP Semiconductors | 568-9953-2-ND | DigiKey: <http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/SSL2129AT%2F1J/568-9953-2-ND/3679521>; 11-9953 Boyer v. Louisiana (04/29/2013) - Supreme Court of the ...: <http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/11-9953_4h25.pdf>; Amazon.com: Weber 9953 Premium Gas Grill Cover Fits Summit ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Premium-Grill-Cover- (1 more message)
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.469 BTC [+]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00072848 = 1.3266 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4170 @ 0.00072823 = 3.0367 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00072822 = 4.4421 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5109 @ 0.00072593 = 3.7088 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46999 BTC [+]
12:16 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.47 = 23.52 BTC [+]
12:16 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200213.0;topicseen
12:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01512 = 0.378 BTC [+]
12:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.469 = 5.876 BTC [-]
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.01512 = 0.2117 BTC [+]
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01512 BTC [+]
12:39 mircea_popescu http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/elizabeth-warren-student-loans-91079.html#ixzz2SkL3bhPH
12:39 mircea_popescu lol this shows promise
12:39 mircea_popescu "since you have free money, give everyone some"
12:44 benkay hey! whatchall think about btcd?
12:45 kakobrekla i wonder if the got spec
12:45 kakobrekla they
12:46 benkay whaddaya mean by got spec?
12:46 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.00999 = 0.1399 BTC [+]
12:46 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.00997 = 9.97 BTC [-]
12:46 mircea_popescu benkay tell us about it ?
12:46 benkay bitcoin port in go
12:46 benkay hilarious pull quotes:
12:47 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.424001 BTC [-]
12:47 benkay "in the process found issues with unit tests, non portable functions..."
12:47 benkay https://blog.conformal.com/btcd-a-bitcoind-alternative-written-in-go/
12:47 benkay written by professionals
12:47 benkay who don't laugh like apes when someone says "unit test"
12:48 benkay "all code can and shall have test coverage"
12:48 benkay squee
12:48 benkay all of the squee, you guys
12:48 benkay and this was done because someone cared
12:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00093 BTC [-]
12:52 benkay wtf does xchat not support multiple connections?
12:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1000 @ 0.00092 = 0.92 BTC [-]
12:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0009 BTC [-]
12:52 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 300 @ 0.00085 = 0.255 BTC [-]
12:54 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.014679 = 0.1028 BTC [-]
12:55 benkay derp derp derp
12:56 truff1es herp
12:57 benkay anyways
12:57 benkay they're publishing this, notionally data extracted from their client
12:57 benkay http://blocksafari.com/
12:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.468 = 5.872 BTC [+]
12:59 kakobrekla btcd
12:59 kakobrekla 18:57.32 ( kakobrekl ) do you have any spec written? im asking because bitcoind does not
12:59 kakobrekla 18:57.49 ( @marco ) that is a tough question
12:59 kakobrekla 18:57.57 ( @jy-p ) if you check out the godoc and comments, btcwire encodes a lot of the spec-related info
12:59 kakobrekla 18:57.58 ( @marco ) bitcoind is the spec essentially
12:59 kakobrekla 18:58.08 ( @marco ) we have documented heavily along the way
12:59 kakobrekla 18:58.18 ( kakobrekl ) so thats a no then?
12:59 kakobrekla 18:58.28 ( @marco ) it is looking like we will help getting the spec in order once development slows down a little
12:59 kakobrekla 18:58.36 ( @marco ) it's a half no
12:59 kakobrekla 18:58.55 ( @jy-p ) we obviously don't have a draft RFC :)
12:59 kakobrekla 18:59.10 ( @dhill ) if you run godoc, that will give you a lot of information
13:00 benkay cool!
13:00 benkay what are your thoughts on their response?
13:00 truff1es ^^
13:01 kakobrekla my thoughs are : i hope they beat bitcoind guys to it
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.003165 = 0.057 BTC [+]
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.468 BTC [+]
13:01 benkay to a spec?
13:01 kakobrekla yes
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.468 BTC [+]
13:02 kakobrekla they seem to be capable
13:02 benkay is bitcoind team actively working on a spec?
13:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]
13:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
13:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.44 BTC [-]
13:04 kakobrekla 19:03.19 ( @marco ) kakobrekl: http://godoc.org/github.com/conformal/btcwire
13:04 truff1es benkay would u say its perfect time for a nap?
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.431 BTC [-]
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.430501 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0149 = 0.745 BTC [-]
13:11 benkay truff1es only your body can tell you that
13:12 thestringpuller now havelock has it's own ASICM passthru?
13:12 thestringpuller Asicminer is officially for hipsters.
13:12 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: any new articles?
13:12 deadweasel rich hipsters
13:12 benkay bitcoin: officially for hipsters
13:12 deadweasel which are rare
13:13 ThickAsThieves the ASICM on Havelock is an extension of the fractional AM assets I have on Bitfunder and BTCT
13:17 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-dilemma-of-fake-money/
13:18 mircea_popescu just finished it.
13:18 benkay as I said to a lady last night: "banks offer returns. students don't. end of story"
13:19 thestringpuller reading trilema when I should be studying: Priceless
13:19 truff1es students affect long term economy of a nation
13:19 thestringpuller BTW mircea_popescu senator elizabeth warren is HOTT
13:19 thestringpuller jkjk
13:20 benkay trilema's probably a better education than whatever you're studying, thestringpuller
13:20 mircea_popescu benkay read that article srsly :D
13:20 benkay not to kiss ass or anything
13:20 benkay i ams, mp, I ams.
13:20 mircea_popescu a
13:20 truff1es lol
13:20 mircea_popescu so that explains the coincidence lol
13:20 truff1es have yet to read a full article on there..
13:20 truff1es the words, theyre too
13:21 truff1es something
13:21 benkay really? they're rarely in excess of 2k words
13:21 truff1es i make it a sentence or 2
13:21 benkay I hope that Mencius Moldbug engages with you on this one, MP
13:21 truff1es i dont even do that now since im blocked
13:21 truff1es or on his ignore
13:22 mircea_popescu benkay he's already got one he carefully avoids lol
13:22 thestringpuller Trilema is a differenet subject than I'm studying.
13:22 thestringpuller I'd love to see mircea_popescu write an article on operating systems, or HLSL
13:22 benkay as in topic of bitcoin?
13:22 benkay homie
13:22 benkay get a job as a jr sysadmin
13:22 benkay or devops monkey as they're called
13:22 thestringpuller Been there, done that.
13:23 benkay wait wat
13:23 benkay and you're back in school?
13:23 thestringpuller I'm forever in school.
13:23 mircea_popescu ya what ?
13:23 thestringpuller It's my limbo.
13:23 benkay wat wat wat
13:23 thestringpuller I'm in limbo yo!
13:23 benkay did you fail out of the job market?
13:23 thestringpuller No, like mircea_popescu, I am "a difficult student".
13:23 thestringpuller I ask too many questions.
13:23 thestringpuller Question too much authority.
13:24 benkay it's a shame you didn't find a shop where that kind of spirit is encouraged
13:24 mircea_popescu yeah
13:24 pgp interesting - only 43k volume in last 24h... VERY light trading...
13:25 benkay ready for a rollover?
13:25 benkay << doesn't know what he's saying
13:25 pgp yes, I think so
13:26 thestringpuller benkay: I did find a shop where that is encouraged. Too bad capitalist countries don't condone true entrepreneurship
13:27 thestringpuller I think mircea_popescu is one of the flagship authors on the subject of "pop-culture entrepreneurship in the land of capitalism"
13:27 benkay what is 'true entrepreneurship'?
13:27 benkay and how were you fucked for practicing it?
13:28 truff1es are you libertarian should be the 1st question
13:28 thestringpuller the key to true entrepreneurship means solving a legitimate problem
13:29 thestringpuller pop culture entrepreneurship involves creating a problem that really doesn't exist and marketing a solution to it, to grab the next round of funding from the daddy figure you never had growing up
13:29 pgp yes... not an "invented" problem...
13:29 jurov ThickAsThieves, I would use some other word than "fractional".. it may have unwanted associations :D
13:29 benkay sure!
13:30 benkay but that works all the time in america
13:30 benkay see: New Relic
13:30 jurov but it would be rather clever, selling same asicminer shares on multiple places :D
13:30 thestringpuller who was that guy who sold matches...
13:30 benkay Heroku
13:30 benkay Github
13:30 benkay Tesla
13:31 benkay all these all also fall into the bucket of "bullshit we do to make more bullshit for idiots"
13:31 thestringpuller Github is technically useful, but I see where you are going.
13:31 thestringpuller Tesla is still too young.
13:32 benkay "technically useful" bro has you ever done the distributed teams thing?
13:32 thestringpuller Yup. Using SVN
13:32 thestringpuller we begged for github
13:32 benkay github eliminates massive comms overhead
13:32 truff1es what are we talking about?
13:32 benkay tech stuff you're not interested.
13:32 truff1es lol
13:32 benkay actually *biz* stuff, but w/e
13:32 truff1es i am if i know what it is
13:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.430501 BTC [-]
13:33 thestringpuller so github is like puppet labs
13:33 thestringpuller in how they provide value
13:33 benkay another huge value creator
13:33 truff1es is thestringpuller libertarianian?
13:33 thestringpuller you could either build the automation yourself, or buy it from someone else.
13:34 truff1es -ian
13:34 thestringpuller That's how Atlassian became so big in under a decade.
13:34 benkay I'm missing the last pieces in how you got fucked for practicing some sort of atypical entrepreneurship.
13:35 truff1es if i ask 3rd time does that mean im really really really interested in the answer hmm
13:36 benkay if you ask infinity times does it matter?
13:36 thestringpuller I'm not very political.
13:36 mircea_popescu <thestringpuller> pop culture entrepreneurship involves creating a problem that really doesn't exist and marketing a solution to it, to grab the next round of funding from the daddy figure you never had growing up << amazinglty apt summary
13:36 truff1es it does for our lil discussion here
13:37 benkay liberal, democrat, libertarian are all moronic simplifications
13:37 benkay no human with opinions worth paying attention to is a strict any one of those
13:37 benkay except maybe MM with his "reactionary" thing
13:37 truff1es <thestringpuller> I'm not very political.>>> what does this even mean, u dont vote?
13:37 truff1es MM?
13:38 thestringpuller My political discourse usually involves: allowing people to have a choice, vs. not allowing them to make a choice.
13:38 thestringpuller which is oversimplified
13:38 benkay mencius modbug. if you can't handle MP, you really can't handle MM.
13:38 benkay derp of derp course it's derp over derplified
13:39 benkay the only way to understand someone's politics is to fucking talk to them about things that are not politics
13:39 benkay well, things that are related to the real world
13:39 BitHub satoshi - the father figure we've all been waiting for
13:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01413 = 0.1413 BTC [-]
13:39 jurov /o\
13:39 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01413 BTC [-]
13:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.01412 = 0.0706 BTC [-]
13:40 mircea_popescu benkay moldbug never says nigger tho
13:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0141 BTC [-]
13:40 thestringpuller it's weird to hear a non american use that word
13:40 BitHub ^django unchained fault
13:40 truff1es <benkay> mencius modbug. if you can't handle MP, you really can't handle MM.>>>> why doeth thou thinket that i cannot handlet him?
13:41 benkay a bet
13:41 benkay a hunch
13:41 benkay originating in the murkey intuitive parts of my brain
13:41 benkay murky*
13:41 truff1es its hard to handle if they have no balls to speak back to u, u know
13:42 thestringpuller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7sODzCqvvs lol
13:42 benkay thestringpuller I am genuinely interested in the series of events that pushed you back into the ivory tower
13:43 thestringpuller ivory tower?
13:43 truff1es uni life
13:43 benkay mircea_popescu: he has a different agenda. using that word would drive off the soft-minded he's trying to implant viral ideas into.
13:43 truff1es i am too
13:43 thestringpuller I've always been here
13:43 thestringpuller Since 06
13:43 thestringpuller I am a difficult student
13:43 pgp who is going to bitcoin conference?
13:43 thestringpuller so they make it difficult to graduate
13:43 benkay i am!
13:43 mircea_popescu benkay exactly.
13:43 pgp me too
13:43 mircea_popescu im impressed you know this tho. how'd you figure it ?
13:44 benkay it's not obvious?
13:44 truff1es Mencius is a contraian, how could i hate that
13:44 mircea_popescu it is obvious
13:44 benkay that word fries circuits in america.
13:44 mircea_popescu this is a prime reason to suspect nobody sees it.
13:44 benkay MM wants functional brain circuitry.
13:44 benkay he just wants to perform low-level hardware attacks on complete systems.
13:44 benkay you, I don't think, care terribly about keeping the systems you operate on intact.
13:45 benkay understanding (again, I think) that there's an infinite well of humans who might receive your ideas.
13:45 jurov guys, who is this moldbug? some mythical figure?
13:45 mircea_popescu this is an interesting aprpoach.
13:45 mircea_popescu jurov unqualified reservations @ blogspot
13:46 truff1es i appreciate good writing...
13:46 benkay but do you appreciate good ideas?
13:47 benkay independent of the writing?
13:47 mircea_popescu if it's not clear, what i was saying is obvious is the observation that "he's trying to implant viral ideas into"
13:47 mircea_popescu kinda why i don't like the guy's blog.
13:47 mircea_popescu yet another marketeering blog ? such a waste of time.
13:47 truff1es umm would be difficult for me, unless its like unique or awesome..
13:47 benkay har
13:47 benkay he's marketeering new paradigms to undermine the legitimacy of the USG. I can get behind that.
13:48 mircea_popescu meh.
13:48 mircea_popescu i like honest people.
13:48 benkay you push the 'life is all domination and submission at all scales' trip
13:48 thestringpuller best investment advice ever: http://i.imgur.com/aRZvMZ6.jpg
13:48 mircea_popescu benkay only in those parts where "common agreement" diverges too much towards "lalala i can make it so"
13:52 benkay sorry, mp, I don't understand what you're getting at.
13:52 truff1es http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZluMysK2B1E gee wiz does he not know how to get an idea out concisely..
13:53 mircea_popescu i push the submission/dominance trip in those fields where people are totally off the deep end with the "i can do everything" and "agreement makes it real" nonsense
13:54 truff1es i guess i cant be too hard on mp, English is his 2nd language right
13:56 benkay mircea_popescu, where's the dishonesty in MM's work?
13:56 mircea_popescu take the cybernetic analogy.
13:57 mircea_popescu if you want to get the borgs to revolt, it's one way to tell the borgs here's what you are, here's how things work, get fucked
13:57 mircea_popescu it's nother to try and get a virus on
13:57 mircea_popescu now. pick the honest approach.
13:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00335 = 3.35 BTC [+]
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4101 BTC [+]
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.41 = 2.87 BTC [-]
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.40340001 = 6.051 BTC [-]
14:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00072752 = 11.6403 BTC [+]
14:02 jurov "I promise - this is my last Bitcoin post. I fear it attracts low-quality traffic."
14:03 truff1es spammers?
14:07 benkay now, MP, what if the borgs are so thoroughly programmed that their filters just escape anything that threatens the binary?
14:07 benkay (to get excessively nerdy with the metaphors)
14:07 benkay sure honesty is great
14:07 benkay but if you need to break through a firewall...
14:08 asciilifeform benkay: moldbug doesn't work on the masses. and he never intended to. his "red pill" is for the intellectually-curious/adventurous, by his own admission.
14:08 benkay who are nonetheless *thoroughly* programmed.
14:09 asciilifeform nowhere on this planet are the unprogrammed to be found en masse.
14:10 truff1es maybe some tribes?
14:10 asciilifeform hence his "red pill" analogy. you need to be someone whose programming is already hickupping to benefit from the pill.
14:10 truff1es he's too verbose and repetitive..
14:10 benkay sure. i hold that "honesty" is incompatible with his goals, which are to further derail already degrading programming.
14:11 jurov he seems to go into lengthy elaborations only to end each article "usg will kill it anyway"
14:11 benkay I don't know that MP cares about convincing a small slice of the American technocracy that the USG is broken and/or dying.
14:11 benkay jurov, I think that's a meta-joke. "none of this matters anyways because the thing I'm trying to tell you ruins your life regularly will ruin your life about this as well."
14:12 truff1es well writing betrays intent, if you cant convey the idea well it just falls flat
14:12 benkay just 'cause you can't parse the idea doesn't mean anything, truff1es.
14:12 mircea_popescu benkay i don't care.
14:12 benkay see?!
14:13 truff1es that is clear to me
14:13 mircea_popescu tbh, it probably could be said that unlike the moldbug fellow i have the advantage of not reallty giving a shiot avbout the us government
14:13 truff1es his writings are turrble
14:13 KRS-1 folks starting to predict sub $90 dollar market price now
14:13 mircea_popescu but then again his caring is what'll perpetuate it, if even in the negative
14:13 KRS-1 idk bout that htough
14:13 mircea_popescu much like the red marking on the girl's ass perpetuates the switch vibration long after the switch has rested.
14:13 benkay wat
14:14 benkay the mark does nothing
14:14 benkay it's an indicator.
14:14 benkay that a thing happened.
14:14 jcpham can invest in Tesla yet with my bitcoins directly
14:14 mircea_popescu ya. the thing is there, in the negative.
14:14 jcpham or do i have to keep waiting
14:14 mircea_popescu the apple carries your bite sort of thing
14:14 jcpham tesla should just a bitcoin client in the car
14:14 jcpham accidentally a word
14:15 truff1es should just ?
14:15 benkay I am not following at all, mp.
14:15 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> nowhere on this planet are the unprogrammed to be found en masse. << unprogramming is actually trivially simple to do. takes about two weeks.
14:15 jcpham put
14:15 mircea_popescu benkay so ask a question.
14:15 benkay trying to work one up
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.0147 = 0.0882 BTC [-]
14:16 truff1es benkay ure proving my points over and over heh
14:16 jurov jcpham, why? for better nerdgasm?
14:16 jcpham nerdgasm all over the batteries
14:16 jcpham for sure
14:16 truff1es <benkay> just 'cause you can't parse the idea doesn't mean anything, truff1es. >>> means something imo
14:16 jcpham sorry i'm not paying attention to your conversation
14:16 jcpham looks like a lot of words
14:17 truff1es there are 3 different topics going on at least
14:17 mircea_popescu jcpham you;'re such a week troll you know :D
14:17 jcpham good
14:17 jcpham unicorns
14:17 jcpham it's weak fuckhead
14:17 jcpham not week like 7 days
14:17 truff1es lol
14:17 jurov okay jcpham, go back polishing your tesla.. oh moment, before that tell me, did elon apologize to ny times?
14:17 jurov i have a bet
14:17 jcpham where's tiberiusv
14:18 mircea_popescu he did didn't he ?
14:18 jcpham bring him out
14:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.44 BTC [+]
14:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.438511 BTC [-]
14:18 thestringpuller ;;ticker
14:18 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.05000, Best ask: 112.67230, Bid-ask spread: 0.62230, Last trade: 112.05000, 24 hour volume: 33089.17796065, 24 hour low: 108.80000, 24 hour high: 115.21589, 24 hour vwap: 112.07752
14:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.430511 BTC [-]
14:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4305 = 2.861 BTC [-]
14:18 jcpham mircea_popescu channel is sausage party
14:18 jurov i doubt assbot wants to admint tiberiusiv for third time
14:19 jurov after two bans
14:19 mircea_popescu he got banned ?!
14:19 jcpham someone got baned from here
14:19 jcpham wow
14:19 truff1es if most pplhave him on ignore then???
14:19 jurov yes, he got
14:20 jcpham did he call kakobrekla a cnut
14:20 truff1es he was upset that addicts pat themselves on the back for kicking their habits
14:20 jurov ;;seen tiberiusiv
14:20 gribble tiberiusiv was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <tiberiusiv> you cant read english paragraphs
14:21 truff1es said person put him on ignore so..
14:21 jcpham he gets upset when poor people speak
14:21 jborkl he got klined or banned
14:21 truff1es ppl in this room get upset when ppl dont adore them
14:22 mircea_popescu the former is not much of an acxcomplishment
14:22 jurov truff1es that includes you
14:22 benkay zing!
14:22 truff1es rly when?
14:22 truff1es im prob on the least liked list
14:22 benkay nah trufs don't need adoration, just attention
14:22 jurov i luke truffles (no homo)
14:22 benkay not getting enough at home i warrant
14:22 jurov *like
14:23 truff1es 3> jurov
14:23 truff1es <benkay> not getting enough at home i warrant>>> ha
14:24 mircea_popescu lol is the no homo because of luke or truffles ?
14:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0147 = 0.0735 BTC [-]
14:27 jurov no comment
14:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.464899 BTC [+]
14:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4649 BTC [+]
14:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [+]
14:30 truff1es benkay on 2nd thoughts, its hockey season
14:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.014675 = 0.1468 BTC [+]
14:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.014678 = 0.044 BTC [+]
14:33 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.014679 = 0.3963 BTC [+]
14:33 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15511341 = 155.1134 BTC [+]
14:33 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16330751 = 163.3075 BTC [+]
14:36 truff1es how many teams will beat team usa hmmm
14:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.0147 = 0.5145 BTC [-]
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0147 = 0.0588 BTC [-]
14:40 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.014679 = 0.1908 BTC [+]
14:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00072752 = 3.4557 BTC [+]
14:46 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: more articles please
14:46 thestringpuller nothing left to read on trilemma :P
14:47 mircea_popescu lol
14:48 thestringpuller i see how it is
14:50 truff1es http://qz.com/83121/1-billion-waze-acquisition-is-yet-more-proof-facebook-is-no-longer-a-social-network/ that place has lots to read
14:50 mircea_popescu i have your subscription nao so lalala
14:50 truff1es (its free btw)
14:51 thestringpuller BUT I WANT MOAR
14:51 thestringpuller I NEED MOAR TRILEMA!!!!
14:51 mircea_popescu hit the title, it reads a random article
14:51 mircea_popescu prolly in romanian.
14:51 thestringpuller so how do I know you aren't a vampire?
14:51 thestringpuller or related to dracula?
14:52 mircea_popescu well... i don't like girls on the rag...
14:53 mod6 haha
14:54 TomServo mircea_popescu: what was so loathsome about Guatemala?
14:55 mircea_popescu i'm not even sure where to begin.
14:55 mircea_popescu just, retarded peeps.
14:56 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.014679 = 0.0734 BTC [+]
14:57 TomServo fair enough
14:58 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what do you think of the match king?
14:58 truff1es probably has nothing to do with Spanish being the official language
14:58 mircea_popescu dunno what that is
14:58 thestringpuller Ivar Kreuger
14:58 mircea_popescu but i'd rather have a match than a lighter
14:59 thestringpuller this was before lighters
14:59 thestringpuller haha
14:59 thestringpuller matches rule
14:59 thestringpuller FIRE
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072607 = 3.1373 BTC [-]
15:00 mircea_popescu anyway. murky 1900s stuff.
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9845 @ 0.00072593 = 7.1468 BTC [-]
15:03 thestringpuller ;;ticker
15:03 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.98000, Best ask: 113.34397, Bid-ask spread: 0.36397, Last trade: 113.34398, 24 hour volume: 32826.20339078, 24 hour low: 108.80000, 24 hour high: 115.21589, 24 hour vwap: 112.01367
15:05 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.009 = 0.018 BTC [+]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072622 = 3.138 BTC [+]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8196 @ 0.00072593 = 5.9497 BTC [-]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00071973 = 3.7786 BTC [-]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 998 @ 0.0007181 = 0.7167 BTC [-]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00071367 = 5.5666 BTC [-]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [-]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3453 @ 0.00070978 = 2.4509 BTC [-]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5521 @ 0.00070758 = 3.9065 BTC [-]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1361 @ 0.00070674 = 0.9619 BTC [-]
15:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.466 = 7.33 BTC [+]
15:08 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [+]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.484599 BTC [+]
15:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 1.4846 = 31.1766 BTC [+]
15:13 thestringpuller BUY MPOE
15:13 thestringpuller BUY BUY BUY
15:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 52 @ 0.0148 = 0.7696 BTC [+]
15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2998 = 0.5996 BTC [+]
15:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0149 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.0149 = 0.5215 BTC [+]
15:36 b0n1 boring market...
15:38 b0n1 wanna see some action... mircea_popescu what about buying 5000 BTC on market order ?
15:38 mircea_popescu noty.
15:38 mircea_popescu action is bad for business.
15:38 b0n1 boring...
15:39 b0n1 pushing it up to 150 would be good for business too
15:40 b0n1 feels like everybody fell asleep watching the market
15:40 mircea_popescu boring is the idea.
15:41 mircea_popescu boring pushes worhtless speculators out and actual business in.
15:41 mircea_popescu this is kinda what we want to happen.
15:41 b0n1 yeah i know
15:41 mircea_popescu kinda sucked all the benefit from speculators dry, got the press, that pie is eaten.
15:41 mircea_popescu the game now is being boring.
15:41 b0n1 but couldnt this happen a bit more up?
15:42 taub just wait
15:42 taub congestion is followed by moves
15:42 mircea_popescu well anything could jhappen
15:43 taub http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1367650070909.png
15:43 taub we're off my prophecy
15:44 taub nobody is save now
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.01499 = 0.5247 BTC [+]
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.015 = 0.75 BTC [+]
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01512 = 0.2268 BTC [+]
15:46 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gtrl-or-gtfo/#comment-93130
15:46 mircea_popescu ok this kicks ass
15:46 mircea_popescu apparently they aren't related to the pumping ?!
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.01512 = 0.1361 BTC [+]
15:47 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01673 BTC [+]
15:47 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 49 @ 0.01674 = 0.8203 BTC [+]
15:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01519 = 0.3798 BTC [+]
15:48 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1056 = 0.528 BTC [-]
15:48 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01674 BTC [+]
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.01519 = 0.1823 BTC [+]
15:49 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.01776 = 0.888 BTC [+]
15:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01519 = 0.0304 BTC [+]
15:50 b0n1 i think there has to happen something to influence more people foreign to btc. Cant imagine that without an event with greater impact the market could go out of this quietness
15:51 jborkl <BFL_StevenM> New chip/board status: not arriving tomorrow.
15:51 mircea_popescu lol jborkl
15:51 jborkl socking news eh?
15:51 jborkl shocking
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 39 @ 0.0152 = 0.5928 BTC [+]
15:52 b0n1 mircea_popescu, whats you oppinion on future market movements?
15:53 mircea_popescu i dunno ?
15:53 thestringpuller b0n1: translation: he doesn't care
15:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.01519 = 0.1671 BTC [-]
15:54 benkay "the only thing feeps shear is being left out"
15:54 benkay u don sae
15:54 thestringpuller ideally I would think mircea_popescu would want the price to be stable more than anything, despite the spot price
15:55 mircea_popescu well simply put if people can't do business in btc people won't do business in btc
16:00 dub jborkl: what channel is that from?
16:01 jborkl I got it from a private channel, and reposted it
16:01 jborkl not directed at me
16:02 jcpham jborkl: just two more weeks!
16:02 jborkl shit, I have been saying that since November
16:03 mircea_popescu no fucking way two weeks ?
16:04 jborkl I don't think so, I think I will not see anything - minimum 1 month
16:04 jborkl most likely longer
16:04 benkay b0n1: mp is running a a financial operation that makes money when the market stays flat. he'll want the market to stay flat.
16:04 jborkl that is just what I am thinking
16:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3639 @ 0.00070674 = 2.5718 BTC [-]
16:05 benkay actually, this might be a good time to subscribe to an MPOE bond issuance.
16:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2661 @ 0.0007058 = 1.8781 BTC [-]
16:05 benkay you if you're crazy and desire absurd returns and don't care about wacky principal writedowns...
16:09 thestringpuller benkay: actually mpoe bonds are sometimes good during volatility...
16:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.0152 = 0.1672 BTC [+]
16:10 thestringpuller it's only when the volatility is so extreme that insuring against price momvements is like trying to provide flood insurance during the great flood
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0144 = 0.0288 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [+]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01480001 = 2.96 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 109 @ 0.0148 = 1.6132 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01460001 = 2.92 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 161 @ 0.0146 = 2.3506 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.0145 = 1.015 BTC [-]
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 192 @ 0.01440001 = 2.7648 BTC [-]
16:11 mircea_popescu <benkay> b0n1: mp is running a a financial operation that makes money when the market stays flat. << this isn't actually right
16:12 mircea_popescu atm the market is flat and im making a ton because people shortsold.
16:12 thestringpuller why did people short sell?
16:12 mircea_popescu prolly in anticipation of big moves
16:12 thestringpuller I think people short sold because buying was too expensive.
16:13 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1056 = 0.3168 BTC [-]
16:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476999 BTC [-]
16:13 benkay mircea_popescu how would you describe the underwriting operation?
16:13 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 17 @ 0.1057 = 1.7969 BTC [+]
16:13 mircea_popescu bonds make money when the option traders are wrong
16:13 mircea_popescu option traders make money *(from the bonds) when they are right
16:13 mircea_popescu it doesn't matter if flat, up, down.
16:14 mircea_popescu it just matters if right or wrong
16:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.477 = 2.954 BTC [+]
16:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4788 BTC [+]
16:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.0007058 = 2.6115 BTC [-]
16:18 benkay thanks, mp
16:19 benkay hence why the bot takes it hard during months of huge moves
16:19 benkay makes some guesses about where price will end up based on whatever, and when those numbers are exceeded and there are options traders on the other side...
16:20 mircea_popescu yeah
16:20 mircea_popescu sometimes it makes a killing, like the 10k in jan or w./e it was
16:20 mircea_popescu sometimes it gets hammered, like the 15k in march
16:20 mircea_popescu such it goes.
16:20 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01799 BTC [+]
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.24 = 6.72 BTC [+]
16:21 mircea_popescu the value of the capital structure of course being that risk is correctly distributed so as to not generate the sort of problems irl banks have
16:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [-]
16:22 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0146 = 0.073 BTC [-]
16:22 benkay what is the structure of afk banks, and the risk distribution therein?
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.3 = 4.6 BTC [+]
16:23 thestringpuller benkay: MPOE bot doesn't hold capital
16:23 benkay I understand the MPEx/MPOE structure fairly well, tsp.
16:23 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.478 = 2.956 BTC [-]
16:23 benkay it's the contrast I'm lacking detail on.
16:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.0033 = 0.792 BTC [-]
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [-]
16:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00071189 = 0.3559 BTC [+]
16:24 benkay apologies for interrupting. please continue.
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [-]
16:27 thestringpuller nah i misread what you said lol
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.26 = 11.3 BTC [+]
16:28 mircea_popescu http://mpexcharts.com/mpsic/S.MPOE/
16:28 mircea_popescu pretty cool pizzaman1337 stuff!
16:30 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0146 = 0.0876 BTC [-]
16:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4285 @ 0.0007058 = 3.0244 BTC [-]
16:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4465 @ 0.00070254 = 3.1368 BTC [-]
16:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 2.0001 = 20.001 BTC [-]
16:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0148 = 0.0592 BTC [+]
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29999999 = 0.9 BTC [+]
16:37 benkay mircea_popescu: what is the risk distribution and capital structure of afk banks you avoided with the MPEx structuring?
16:37 mircea_popescu benkay irl you mean ?
16:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2.0001 = 12.0006 BTC [-]
16:38 benkay sure
16:38 benkay semantics
16:38 benkay (as if to imply these conversations and businesses are not real...)
16:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4769 = 5.9076 BTC [-]
16:38 mircea_popescu irl banks aspire to the vaunted "tbtf" status, which means their mpoe bondholders are the taxpayers, and the interest rate is fixed
16:38 mircea_popescu and very low.
16:38 benkay gotcha
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2998 = 0.8994 BTC [-]
16:39 kakobrekla hey you.
16:39 iz lol
16:39 thestringpuller LOL
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+]
16:40 kakobrekla !l m s.dice
16:40 assbot Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0033 BTC [-]
16:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4769 BTC [-]
16:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.0152 = 1.216 BTC [+]
16:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4769 BTC [-]
16:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.434001 BTC [-]
16:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.434 BTC [-]
16:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.431001 BTC [-]
16:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.431 BTC [-]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10885 @ 0.00070254 = 7.6471 BTC [-]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00070133 = 6.6626 BTC [-]
16:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4223 @ 0.00069905 = 2.9521 BTC [-]
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 358 @ 0.0152 = 5.4416 BTC [+]
16:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476499 BTC [+]
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0152 = 7.6 BTC [+]
17:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 512 @ 0.0152 = 7.7824 BTC [+]
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01525 = 1.525 BTC [+]
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 687 @ 0.01525 = 10.4768 BTC [+]
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 420 @ 0.0155 = 6.51 BTC [+]
17:11 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1057 = 0.2114 BTC [+]
17:12 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 45 @ 0.10597 = 4.7687 BTC [+]
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01525 = 0.3813 BTC [-]
17:15 topace__ !ticker h asicm
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK:ASICM] 1D: 0.01290000 / 0.01446685 / 0.01595000 (24785 shares, 358.56083442 BTC), 7D: 0.01290000 / 0.01446563 / 0.01595000 (24805 shares, 358.81983442 BTC), 30D: 0.01290000 / 0.01446563 / 0.01595000 (24805 shares, 358.81983442 BTC)
17:16 topace__ whoop
17:17 ThickAsThieves :)
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.01445 = 7.225 BTC [-]
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 225 @ 0.01440001 = 3.24 BTC [-]
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0144 BTC [-]
17:24 thestringpuller anyone here good with javascript?
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.015 = 0.375 BTC [+]
17:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476394 BTC [-]
17:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476395 BTC [+]
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [+]
17:28 WILLdude This is a really dumb question, but if more people buy ASICminer shares, would I get less dividends?
17:28 WILLdude Are more ASICminer shares constantly being introduced?
17:28 ThickAsThieves no
17:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4764 = 2.9528 BTC [+]
17:28 ThickAsThieves there are a fixed amount of shares
17:28 WILLdude Oh alright.
17:29 mircea_popescu welcome to assets, WILLdude
17:30 lyspooner what if he meant indirectly
17:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476 BTC [-]
17:32 ThickAsThieves every asicminer shares always gets equal payout
17:33 ThickAsThieves if you buy your shares from an exchange, some of the operators do take a % as a management fee
17:33 ThickAsThieves each operator has their own details for how they manage their asset
17:33 WILLdude Were the recent dividends unusually high?
17:33 ThickAsThieves yes and no
17:33 ThickAsThieves they were higher than normal
17:34 ThickAsThieves but because they have grown faster than normal
17:34 ThickAsThieves this growth may continue
17:34 ThickAsThieves if they stick to the plan
17:34 ThickAsThieves it may actually go up
17:34 ThickAsThieves but long term it could go down too
17:34 aneeshmehta hey I'm looking to potentially do some OTC exotic options, if anyone has any interest/input hit me up
17:34 ThickAsThieves it's all up to how they manage the business and profits
17:34 mircea_popescu we need blogs discussing these things ;/
17:35 mircea_popescu aneeshmehta nobody does "exostic options" for the sake of them being exotic.
17:35 ThickAsThieves there is an ASICMINER for dummies thread I think
17:35 ThickAsThieves that tries to sum things up
17:35 mircea_popescu blogs are so much better than threads tho
17:35 ThickAsThieves the official thread is a nightmare
17:35 ThickAsThieves liek 50000000 pages
17:35 mircea_popescu it is.
17:38 dub that furkinap(?) dude has a blog post about buing ma
17:38 dub buying*
17:40 aneeshmehta mircea_popescu thanks I get that, that's why I'm looking OTC
17:41 WILLdude Is there a reasonably good chance that I'd at least get my investment returned?
17:41 ThickAsThieves from dividends alone?
17:42 ThickAsThieves unlikely
17:42 ThickAsThieves but you could collect dividends
17:42 ThickAsThieves then sell your shares
17:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4764 BTC [+]
17:42 ThickAsThieves and possibly make profit
17:42 ThickAsThieves just depends on what the share price does
17:42 ThickAsThieves lately its going up still
17:42 ThickAsThieves if divs are even higher next week
17:42 ThickAsThieves itll keep going up
17:43 WILLdude I might buy into it soon.
17:43 ThickAsThieves you just have to be in front of the wave
17:43 ThickAsThieves to avoid a wipe out ;)
17:43 WILLdude Meaning?
17:43 dub you should keep in mind that nobody knows who AM are, they are operating an illegal business in a country with no real laws
17:43 WILLdude Really?
17:43 dub the risk is a lot higher than any conventional investment
17:43 mircea_popescu at current prices they'd have to mine ~500k btc in ordeer to pay you back from divs.
17:43 mircea_popescu that's about 20k blocks
17:43 ThickAsThieves dub is the devil on your shoulder, my role as angel is done
17:43 ThickAsThieves hehe
17:44 mircea_popescu they may make dough from selling gear, they may havenses,
17:44 mircea_popescu they may encounter problems of all sorts, it's a tossup
17:44 ThickAsThieves btc itself is a risk
17:44 benkay yo dawg i herd u liek risk
17:44 ThickAsThieves once you start investing
17:44 ThickAsThieves you start piling on risks
17:44 benkay so i incorporated some businesses in your bitcoin space to pile risk on your risk so you can invest while you invest
17:44 WILLdude I'm only planning on 0.5 btc worth of investement.
17:44 benkay gamble while you gable
17:45 WILLdude *investment
17:45 mircea_popescu well the worst hat can happen to .5 btc worth of investment
17:45 ThickAsThieves benkay, that's not risky enough for me
17:45 mircea_popescu is that you lose a nice meal
17:45 mircea_popescu (at like mendy's)
17:45 ThickAsThieves i want
17:45 ThickAsThieves riskception
17:46 dub for people like me that bought AM at <US$1 the risk is a lot less than those buying in now at >$150
17:46 ThickAsThieves if you say so...
17:46 ThickAsThieves you have justa s much to lose
17:47 dub how do you figure?
17:47 ThickAsThieves its worth what its worth 100% loss for you = the same total loss as anyone else
17:47 ThickAsThieves you are just losing "profit"
17:47 dub but I've already recouped many times over
17:47 mircea_popescu you two have a nice accounting dispute started
17:48 mircea_popescu the equivalent of semantics but with monyz
17:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4769 = 2.9538 BTC [+]
17:48 ThickAsThieves if you have a million bucks in the back
17:48 ThickAsThieves abank
17:48 ThickAsThieves and $50 falls out your pocket
17:48 ThickAsThieves you lost $50
17:48 ThickAsThieves if i have $100 in the bank
17:48 ThickAsThieves and $50 falls out my pocket
17:48 ThickAsThieves I lost $50
17:49 lyspooner is your pocket at the bank?
17:49 ThickAsThieves i made my point
17:49 ThickAsThieves not gonna belabor it
17:49 dub it makes no sense to me but you made it
17:49 ThickAsThieves you are just finding justifications for your loss
17:49 ThickAsThieves its still a oss
17:49 ThickAsThieves l
17:50 ThickAsThieves rather, rationalizations
17:50 dub its a loss of potential profit well over and above the profit I've already made
17:50 mircea_popescu lyspooner the other pocket is at the bank
17:51 ThickAsThieves mp, dont you have some sort of hooker analogy for this?
17:52 mircea_popescu lmao
17:52 mircea_popescu im all hookered out.
17:52 ThickAsThieves nuts
17:54 dub say I call and order two hookers but three show up, I bust a load on six titties
17:54 dub they havent left yet but they could at any time
17:54 ThickAsThieves these hookers charge up front
17:54 dub you're saying when they leave I lose?
17:54 ThickAsThieves dont they?
17:55 dub yes
17:55 ThickAsThieves which means if they leave before you bust your nut
17:55 ThickAsThieves youre fucked
17:55 ThickAsThieves :)
17:55 dub I've alreeady nutted three times
17:55 mircea_popescu this is a very bad analogy. very very bad analogy.
17:55 ThickAsThieves it matches his presumption
17:55 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0146 = 0.146 BTC [-]
17:55 dub make a blog about bad analogies
17:55 ThickAsThieves how did you nut?
17:56 ThickAsThieves you have to sell shares to nut
17:56 dub at the moment I'm up at least 1.5 jizzloads
17:56 ThickAsThieves lol
17:56 iz what happens if you re-invest the dividends that come out of your shares?
17:56 ThickAsThieves you get extra nut
17:57 ThickAsThieves your nut gets bigger
17:57 ThickAsThieves ...
17:57 ThickAsThieves i suspect i'm being trolled here
17:57 dub I srsly don't see your point
17:57 ThickAsThieves ok..
17:57 ThickAsThieves your shares are worth X dollars
17:58 ThickAsThieves you dont get that X
17:58 mircea_popescu dub it's like this : if you lose what you were merely promised or what you actually owned,
17:58 ThickAsThieves unless you sell
17:58 dub I have more BTC out (from divs) than I put in, I still have the shares that are worth many many more times what I bought for
17:58 mircea_popescu from a certain equitable perspective to present valuer you lose the same.
17:58 mircea_popescu this because the difference between ownership and promise is nil
17:59 mircea_popescu (they both being a promise of performance made by the world at large)
18:00 mircea_popescu this is why it's called equitable, because it equates
18:00 mircea_popescu this is the root of the word equity too
18:00 dub this does not change that if AM walk tomorrow, I have 150% of my investment
18:01 ThickAsThieves it also isnt related to that
18:02 ThickAsThieves that thinking will lead to you allowing yourself to lose money
18:02 ThickAsThieves it's a convenient rationale
18:03 ThickAsThieves for example
18:03 ThickAsThieves you say you want to wait for 2BTC
18:03 ThickAsThieves to sell your shares
18:03 ThickAsThieves but if they become worth 0 before then
18:03 ThickAsThieves you get 0 for them
18:03 ThickAsThieves but if you sell now
18:03 dub I still have 150% of what I put in
18:03 ThickAsThieves you get 1.4 or such
18:03 ThickAsThieves good for you
18:04 ThickAsThieves that is a past success
18:04 dub that is not a loss
18:04 ThickAsThieves no it is not
18:04 ThickAsThieves but your 1.4BTC shares becoming worth 0 certianly would be
18:04 dub my goodness
18:05 ThickAsThieves maybe you'd prefere to call it,
18:05 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.017 = 1.7 BTC [-]
18:05 ThickAsThieves and unrealized gain
18:05 ThickAsThieves :/
18:05 ThickAsThieves an*
18:06 ThickAsThieves that can be our channel motto:
18:06 ThickAsThieves "There are no losses, only unrealized gains."
18:10 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 93 @ 0.0165 = 1.5345 BTC [-]
18:12 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 52 @ 0.0146 = 0.7592 BTC [-]
18:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.014679 = 0.1908 BTC [+]
18:17 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.014679 = 0.367 BTC [+]
18:17 dub stupid internets
18:18 dub ThickAsThieves: what I was not understanding is that you were making a point too obvious for my point parser to identify
18:18 benkay "in any dispute, the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of issues at stake."
18:19 Willdude123 Urgh. I have no clue what to do. I'm not sure if I should invest in ASICminer or buy a BF
18:19 Willdude123 *BFL
18:19 Willdude123 For 280 pounds.
18:20 Bugpowder do not buy a bfl
18:20 jurov Just buy bitcoins and observe what happens.
18:20 benkay buy a bfl!
18:20 benkay nono
18:20 benkay don't buy bitcoins
18:20 benkay they're a scam
18:20 Bugpowder if you MUST be in the mining game, asicminer shares are the way to go
18:21 Bugpowder at least they are pretty liquid
18:21 thestringpuller Bugpowder or you can buy avalon chips
18:21 thestringpuller And build some shit
18:21 Bugpowder and denominated in bitcoins
18:21 Bugpowder thestringpuller: this guy is not looking for that level of commitment
18:21 Bugpowder you may never get the Jalapeno
18:21 thestringpuller It's not really that much commitment. You can attach the shiggity to a breadboard in a day easy
18:22 Bugpowder and when you do, it will be worthless
18:22 thestringpuller the data-in/data-out will work with cgminer
18:22 jurov um, 280 pounds.. that happens to fit current price of casascius first edition coin
18:22 Bugpowder mining sux
18:22 Bugpowder jurov: are you shitting me?
18:22 Bugpowder i have a bunch of those
18:22 Bugpowder well, a handful
18:23 jurov Bugpowder: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186198.0
18:23 jurov ended up 3btc/coin
18:23 Willdude123 That is after VAT and shipping,
18:24 Willdude123 Is pyramining good?
18:25 Bugpowder lol
18:25 Bugpowder just buy coins and sit on them
18:25 Willdude123 How does it compare with asicminer
18:26 Bugpowder asicminer is a real company
18:26 Bugpowder pyramining is a ponzi scheme
18:26 Bugpowder (I think)
18:27 Willdude123 The faq disagrees.
18:27 Bugpowder which faq?
18:27 Bugpowder I haven't looked into it really
18:27 Bugpowder but it sounds scammy
18:27 Bugpowder and given that 99% of all bitcoin ventures are scams
18:28 Bugpowder well… I wouldn't trust it
18:28 jurov yes, you're basically talking with scammers here
18:28 Willdude123 Lol
18:29 benkay don't get greedy man. enjoy the gravy train that are bitcoins
18:29 dub Will dude.. lurk moar
18:29 benkay "you cannot scam an honest man"
18:29 benkay searching for outsized returns will get you proper fucked.
18:29 Bugpowder buy some coins and sit on them
18:29 benkay better yet, come up with a business that generates coins.
18:29 Bugpowder buy more on the next big dip
18:29 Bugpowder probably a bad ideas benkay, most businesses fail
18:30 Namworld no, what benkay said
18:30 Bugpowder If you have no clue, just buy and hold
18:30 benkay here's the thing about businesses
18:30 benkay your first 10 fail
18:30 benkay hopefully you learn something
18:30 benkay and #11 doesn't blow up quite as hard
18:30 benkay repeat until you can actually make money
18:31 benkay thoughts?
18:31 Namworld ... yes
18:32 benkay you already agreed with me dude :P
18:32 Namworld But for web based businesses, which has less costs
18:32 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.014679 = 0.0294 BTC [+]
18:32 benkay oh duh
18:32 Namworld You'll get more who turn a profit, but less which succeed.
18:32 benkay don't start capital intensive businesses
18:33 Willdude123 Hmm.
18:33 jurov well...if i had to fail 10 times i'd forgot btc completely
18:33 Namworld It's easier to have a profit margin, but harder to get enough profit that it's worth the time.
18:33 benkay iterate to profit
18:33 benkay fire bad clients
18:33 Willdude123 I have a kinda job offer from someone willing to pay bitcoins.
18:33 benkay and cheap clients
18:33 benkay wat who
18:33 benkay they're scamming you send them to me
18:34 Willdude123 It's just a quick python program they want me to write.
18:34 Willdude123 I offered on /r/Jobs4Bitcoins
18:35 Willdude123 Someone has replied, and he'll let me know at some point the details.
18:35 Willdude123 Idc if I'm being scammed.
18:35 benkay you are send him to me
18:35 Willdude123 No.
18:35 benkay d'oh
18:36 jurov okay. after benkay does a short process with your wannabe employer
18:36 jurov then i'm interested too in your services
18:37 Willdude123 What?
18:37 Willdude123 I'll ask for identification and set out terms for it.
18:38 jurov ooh, so your employer shall be properly identified?
18:38 jurov as opposed to some scammy asset? :D
18:39 jurov sorry i'm in trollish mood a bit. just send me your Jobs4Bitcoins page to check up
18:40 Willdude123 http://www.reddit.com/r/Jobs4Bitcoins/comments/1dkaws/forhire_python_developer/
18:41 Willdude123 I didn't mention I'm 12
18:41 Willdude123 I think I'll leave that out,
18:41 benkay i am 12 and what is this
18:43 jurov dude, you'll learn, don't worry.
18:44 Bugpowder ha!
18:44 Bugpowder coding for bitcoins is a good plan
18:45 Bugpowder good luck
18:45 KRS1 Weed is getting stronger every two weeks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uLQOYtpZsA
18:46 jurov Willdude123: sent msg on reddit, as rini17
18:46 Willdude123 Sent me a message or him?
18:47 Willdude123 Oh ok.
18:47 Willdude123 I'm afraid I have nothing provable.
18:48 Willdude123 But I won't charge very much. Maybe not even at all if you aren't satisfied.
18:48 jurov np, i have some ideas for simpler tasks and we'll see.
18:49 jurov never mention free work! especially not in such scammer channel ;)
18:49 Bugpowder seriously dude
18:49 Bugpowder also don't tell people you are 12
18:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.0146 = 2.92 BTC [-]
18:50 kakobrekla thats like more than hashking
18:50 kakobrekla is fine
18:50 lyspooner 12 year olds could not have understood bitcoin when it was introduced in 2009
18:51 KRS1 <dub> you should keep in mind that nobody knows who AM are, they are operating an illegal business <Bugpowder> asicminer is a real company
18:52 KRS1 Makes you wonder, if its an illegal company, is it a real company?
18:52 KRS1 There is no spoon.
18:52 jurov it's really illegal
18:52 KRS1 ohhhh that makes sense!
18:52 KRS1 Can't be a real ESTATE company, thats not what they do.
18:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00071168 = 3.0602 BTC [+]
18:53 mircea_popescu ;p;
18:53 mircea_popescu lol*
18:54 KRS1 I was gambling last month in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida with my buddy and these hookers stopped by our blackjack table..If you've been around the block a few times as we have, they're obvious.
18:54 KRS1 They were getting wet and all over our chips.
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.015 = 0.375 BTC [+]
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01512 = 0.378 BTC [+]
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01525 = 0.7625 BTC [+]
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+]
18:59 KRS1 So they split and my buddy and I were talking..if they suck off 8 men per night, and the average penis size is what, 8" inches..thats 64" inches of dick per night..so lets say they work a 6-day work week. Thats 64 X 6 = 384 inches or about 32 feet of dick per week.. 32 X 4 weeks is 128 feet of dick per month..and 128 X 12 months is 1536 feet of dick per year. Over a quarter mile of
18:59 KRS1 dick to suck per year.
18:59 KRS1 Thats a lot of dick.
19:01 KRS1 If the average load is 2 oz..thats 36 US gallons of sperm..or 136.275 Liters.
19:02 KRS1 What is the average retirement age..
19:03 KRS1 After going through that exercise its obvious they need savings or retirement plans.
19:03 Willdude123 How much total power has the ASICminer chip farm got?
19:04 jurov Willdude123: http://www.asicminer.co/figures.html
19:05 jurov or is the "Harshrate" 15th already?
19:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01525 = 0.0763 BTC [+]
19:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 84 @ 0.01525 = 1.281 BTC [+]
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15368381 = 153.6838 BTC [-]
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16188182 = 161.8818 BTC [-]
19:19 Willdude123 Urgh.
19:19 Willdude123 I'm still deciding, ASICminer or BFL miner.
19:20 KRS1 MOAR trilema
19:24 assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.014679 BTC [+]
19:26 mircea_popescu im curious how many people read the whole thing
19:26 dub Willdude123: not trying to be rude but if this much consternation about a $50 investment, perhaps you should be looking at something lower risk?
19:26 mircea_popescu (the english part i mean, i don't thin the romanian part is doable)
19:27 Willdude123 Maybe not sure what.
19:27 mircea_popescu dub i was thinking "if the position you're in is deciding between am and bfl perhaps more fundamental endeavours need prioritizing"
19:27 dub well yes
19:29 dub I guess the simple analysis is that with AM there is a chance of getting in and out, grabbing a few dollars worth of divs in the middle
19:29 dub while purchasing from BFL is pretty much a certain loss
19:30 KRS1 According to this article BTC is dead..lets all go home and shutdown now guys..its over.
19:30 KRS1 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/55733b80-addf-11e2-a2c7-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2SqCmnivP
19:30 dub (unless you have free power and don't mind waiting a few years)
19:30 KRS1 Back to your day jobs.
19:30 mircea_popescu o wait, financial times knows shit ?
19:31 KRS1 haha yeah..jack shit.
19:31 KRS1 it was amusing..i'm off to read rags now because i'm all out of trilema
19:31 KRS1 i could use some pr0ns though.
19:33 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1053 = 1.053 BTC [-]
19:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.010067 = 0.0302 BTC [+]
19:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.010068 = 0.1007 BTC [+]
19:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01007 BTC [+]
19:34 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.010079 = 0.1109 BTC [+]
19:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7108 @ 0.00070973 = 5.0448 BTC [-]
19:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1942 @ 0.00071189 = 1.3825 BTC [+]
19:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01515 = 0.0909 BTC [-]
19:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.47689 BTC [-]
19:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.4769 = 16.2459 BTC [+]
19:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 17 @ 1.478 = 25.126 BTC [+]
19:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 1.4788 = 19.2244 BTC [+]
19:38 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 102 @ 0.003115 = 0.3177 BTC [+]
19:39 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 105 @ 0.00312 = 0.3276 BTC [+]
19:40 mircea_popescu KRS1 http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/4584.html
19:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.01515 = 0.1061 BTC [-]
19:46 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.002815 = 0.0563 BTC [-]
19:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 80 @ 0.0033 = 0.264 BTC [-]
19:48 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1051 BTC [-]
19:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 2.0001 = 8.0004 BTC [-]
19:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4788 BTC [+]
19:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00071189 = 5.7663 BTC [+]
19:55 thestringpuller ;;calc 1115/24
19:55 gribble 46.4583333333
19:55 thestringpuller cool
19:59 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.00312 = 0.936 BTC [+]
20:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.01515 = 0.0455 BTC [-]
20:04 KRS1 damn..what am i gonna do now I was kicked from #bitcoin-analysis..thanks copumpkin
20:04 KRS1 does he work for bfl or something
20:04 copumpkin I did nothing
20:04 KRS1 who then the other dude
20:04 KRS1 thats aight..i always have #bitcoin-anal
20:04 KRS1 i aint mad im just clownin
20:06 KRS1 sorry that i thought it was you but either way i didnt mean nothin by it
20:06 KRS1 i deserved it anyway..just bored..whats there to analyze with this flat fricken market
20:07 copumpkin :)
20:07 copumpkin it's not like you're banned anyway
20:07 copumpkin you can just rejoin
20:07 KRS1 yeh..true..maybe i'll go torture the troll box on btc-e for a while haha
20:08 KRS1 all you big buyers should fuck with the alt-coins while nothings going on
20:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4788 BTC [+]
20:10 mircea_popescu hm. i guess more ppl were following btc for entertainment than previously thought
20:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4845 BTC [+]
20:14 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15361736 = 153.6174 BTC [-]
20:14 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16182046 = 161.8205 BTC [-]
20:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 97 @ 0.01525 = 1.4793 BTC [+]
20:25 KRS1 Hi Luke-
20:25 KRS1 Bye Luke-
20:26 KRS1 I sent Jody from BFL an email days ago and haven't received a response. I was only replying to their email to verify my shipment from them.
20:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.01512 = 0.1058 BTC [-]
20:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00071189 = 5.8019 BTC [+]
20:44 mircea_popescu he does customer support too now ?!
20:45 dub lol was gonna ask the same thing
20:45 dub BFL_Luke-Jr
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21:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 425 @ 0.01452 = 6.171 BTC [-]
21:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01451 = 2.1765 BTC [-]
21:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.01450001 = 0.1305 BTC [-]
21:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0145 = 0.145 BTC [-]
21:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 68 @ 1.47 = 99.96 BTC [-]
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15379797 = 153.798 BTC [+]
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16201158 = 162.0116 BTC [+]
21:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.273 BTC [-]
21:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 18 @ 0.0151 = 0.2718 BTC [+]
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.40400081 BTC [+]
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.015055 = 0.7528 BTC [-]
21:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0146 = 1.46 BTC [-]
21:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 26 @ 0.015055 = 0.3914 BTC [+]
21:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 65 @ 0.015055 = 0.9786 BTC [+]
22:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2714 = 0.5428 BTC [-]
22:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.015055 = 0.4517 BTC [+]
22:06 Chaang-Noi bfl delay is good for AM however once we get over 505 it would be nice if they ship me my units
22:10 Chaang-Noi price is level, insane
22:13 copumpkin quick, build a butterfly
22:16 dub yours didnt ship yet chang?
22:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 67 @ 0.015055 = 1.0087 BTC [+]
22:17 dub got my minirigs on tuesday
22:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.015055 = 0.1054 BTC [+]
22:18 ThickAsThieves oh yeah ?
22:18 ThickAsThieves didnt know any minirigs went out
22:19 dub no
22:19 ThickAsThieves oh
22:19 ThickAsThieves i was excited fo ryou
22:19 dub if they had I'd be standing next to them slojacking
22:20 mod6 haha
22:20 dub of course I want stupid enough to actually order one
22:23 ThickAsThieves i tried confirming my cancelled order like they asked me too,
22:24 ThickAsThieves alas the mistake was only the email, my account had no BFLs in it
22:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00070955 = 10.5013 BTC [-]
22:30 ThickAsThieves hrm John K charging 1% for escrow of 655btc
22:30 ThickAsThieves for a few hours
22:30 ThickAsThieves kinda high no?
22:30 Chaang-Noi i thought he accepted donations?
22:30 ThickAsThieves he says to many pro bonos
22:30 Chaang-Noi i can be escrow if you want
22:30 ThickAsThieves depends on othe rparty
22:31 Chaang-Noi if the time is convienent
22:31 Chaang-Noi what is 655 btc?
22:31 Chaang-Noi i meant what is being sold?
22:32 ThickAsThieves pm'd
22:47 dub https://twitter.com/GSElevator/status/332679856007548928
22:47 Chaang-Noi lol
22:48 Chaang-Noi to be fair bjs are awesome
22:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.015055 = 0.0753 BTC [+]
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 128 @ 0.015055 = 1.927 BTC [+]
23:02 ThickAsThieves https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=14
23:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0147 = 0.0441 BTC [-]
23:10 Chaang-Noi http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22459815 lol " to end the persecution of old men".
23:10 Chaang-Noi i think the age of concent should be lowered from 18 but lol, not to protect "old men"
23:18 topace__ !ticker h vtx
23:18 assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.40340001 / 0.40539263 / 0.41010000 (27 shares, 10.94560096 BTC), 7D: 0.40340001 / 0.46056506 / 0.49200000 (211 shares, 97.17922710 BTC), 30D: 0.18000010 / 0.41152352 / 0.52000000 (4625 shares, 1903.29626800 BTC)
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.015 = 0.03 BTC [+]
~ 17 minutes ~
23:38 KRS1 Chaang-Noi: I don't think there is anything better on this earth or known to man than a bj. If I could have my way, I'd wake up every morning and get BJ, eat some breakfast and then have a damn good massage...every morning. Now thats a hell of a way to start the day.
23:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4811 BTC [+]
23:41 Chaang-Noi move to thailand
23:41 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.482 BTC [+]
23:41 Chaang-Noi you can do that for like 10$ a meal :)
23:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00070249 = 6.4629 BTC [-]
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0146 = 0.1022 BTC [-]
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01451 = 0.7255 BTC [-]
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.01440002 = 0.1008 BTC [-]
23:49 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.2201 BTC [-]
23:50 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.21 BTC [-]
23:52 leotreasure this looks like great news for bitcoin - http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/08/the-most-important-story-in-global-economics-nobody-is-paying-attention-to/
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