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00:01 taub hm
00:01 taub price action looking kinda strange and choppy
00:01 louong there's a storm a'brewin
00:02 taub yea, still some way to go downwards imo
00:04 taub or wait, we're prolly still in that big range 120-140
00:05 taub eh what the hell do i know
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00071681 = 2.4372 BTC [-]
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4341 @ 0.00071564 = 3.1066 BTC [-]
~ 27 minutes ~
00:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.228 = 2.456 BTC [+]
00:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5909 @ 0.00071564 = 4.2287 BTC [-]
00:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00071352 = 1.7124 BTC [-]
00:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2399 @ 0.00070768 = 1.6977 BTC [-]
00:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7692 @ 0.00070511 = 5.4237 BTC [-]
00:52 jurov ;;ticker
00:52 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 134.40000, Best ask: 134.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 134.51999, 24 hour volume: 85736.85762934, 24 hour low: 127.30000, 24 hour high: 146.93000, 24 hour vwap: 137.23806
00:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.228 BTC [+]
01:06 zebedee_ mircea_popescu: From the bitbet FAQ: How are winnings calculated? Every bet has two sides. Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by the winning side total weight and divided by his bet's total weight.
01:06 mircea_popescu yes ?
01:06 zebedee_ I think that's wrong.
01:07 zebedee_ Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by his bet's total weight and divided by the winning side total weight.
01:07 zebedee_ Should be the correct thing no?
01:07 mircea_popescu yes.
01:07 mircea_popescu kakobrekla was going to fix it last time someone pointed this out
01:07 zebedee_ Ah
01:07 mircea_popescu ty tho
01:07 zebedee_ np
01:08 zebedee_ I thought your formula was similar to BoB's but yours is totally decided by weight, not by whether you're on the winning side (they do a 50-50 thing). I kinda prefer yours I guess; it discourages late bettors even more.
01:17 mircea_popescu yeah
01:19 zebedee_ I also like that you resolve your bets promptly; always seem to wait ages for BoB. :)
01:19 mircea_popescu people do complain but most are actually handled within hours.
01:29 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.219 BTC [+]
01:29 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.22 = 1.1 BTC [+]
01:42 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 83 @ 0.003289 = 0.273 BTC [+]
01:56 mircea_popescu Top headline on DPRK radio news today: "International society admires Kim Jong Un as a man of iron will with a lot of guts."
01:56 Diablo-D3 its true
01:56 Diablo-D3 pissing off the US takes huge balls
01:58 mircea_popescu im pretty sure nobody admires a fat twerp who inherited daddy's fortune.
01:58 Diablo-D3 well no
01:58 Diablo-D3 obviously not
01:58 Diablo-D3 Im talking about the iron will and lots of guts part
01:59 ThickAsThieves lots of guts, as in he's a fatty
02:00 ThickAsThieves i wouldnt call his actions brave
02:01 Diablo-D3 brave? no
02:01 Diablo-D3 crazy as fuck? yes
02:01 ThickAsThieves crazy, maybe
02:01 ThickAsThieves more likely its strategy
02:02 ThickAsThieves his behavior isnt new
02:02 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10484 = 0.2097 BTC [+]
02:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8370 @ 0.00070702 = 5.9178 BTC [+]
02:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00164 BTC [+]
02:16 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 25 @ 0.00165 = 0.0413 BTC [+]
02:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19080 @ 0.00070702 = 13.4899 BTC [+]
02:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4520 @ 0.00071453 = 3.2297 BTC [+]
02:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00169 BTC [+]
02:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 15 @ 0.0017 = 0.0255 BTC [+]
02:27 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.0017 = 0.17 BTC [+]
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02:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17446 @ 0.00071453 = 12.4657 BTC [+]
02:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00071663 = 10.3553 BTC [+]
02:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9554 @ 0.00071847 = 6.8643 BTC [+]
02:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.228 = 7.368 BTC [+]
02:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.228 BTC [+]
03:07 taub wow
03:07 taub gox
03:07 taub 1.2*10^-7 volume orders
03:07 toffoo ddos trading bot?
03:09 saulimus that shouldn't be possible
03:14 thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX
03:14 assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 61.36322635 / 189.69683035 / 197.76214913 (643 shares, 155.29 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
03:16 dub ;;goxlag
03:16 gribble Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
03:16 dub ;;goxlag
03:16 gribble MtGox lag is 1.642618 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00329178808033 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
03:17 taub back to normal
03:19 taub how did they even enter that order
03:19 taub must've been over the api
03:19 taub J O K E exchange
03:19 taub run by an autist
~ 24 minutes ~
03:44 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.229 BTC [+]
03:45 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
03:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2508 @ 0.00070511 = 1.7684 BTC [-]
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00070102 = 10.3751 BTC [-]
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12628 @ 0.00069963 = 8.8349 BTC [-]
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6214 @ 0.00069909 = 4.3441 BTC [-]
04:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
04:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17796 @ 0.00071847 = 12.7859 BTC [+]
04:07 thestringpuller kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192122.0
04:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
04:10 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [-]
04:23 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.010099 = 1.0099 BTC [-]
04:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.25 = 6.25 BTC [+]
04:39 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24999 BTC [+]
04:40 Chaang-Noi wow go gognitive
04:40 Chaang-Noi cog
04:41 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00363 = 0.0363 BTC [+]
~ 16 minutes ~
04:57 KRS-1 is market price only going up from here? this seems like the new resistance low?
04:58 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
04:58 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.30000, Best ask: 129.67000, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 129.67000, 24 hour volume: 93680.59746181, 24 hour low: 127.30000, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 136.27703
~ 20 minutes ~
05:19 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 4 @ 0.0054 = 0.0216 BTC [+]
05:20 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
05:21 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010099 BTC [-]
05:24 thestringpuller Diablo-D3: how old are you?
05:24 thestringpuller if you don't mind my asking?
05:25 Diablo-D3 29
05:25 thestringpuller that's a good age
05:25 thestringpuller age is earned
05:25 thestringpuller lol
05:25 thestringpuller so you were 25 when bitcoin started
05:25 Scrat you could have it aaaalll
05:26 Scrat have had*
05:26 thestringpuller Well Mr. Diablo-D3 could you build hardware if someone gave you ASIC chips?
05:26 Diablo-D3 no, Im not an ee
05:27 Diablo-D3 I understand how its done, but Im not one
05:27 thestringpuller "WAAAH. I don't like to solder. I don't want to burn my hands"
05:27 thestringpuller is all I'm hearing
05:27 thestringpuller jkjk
05:27 Diablo-D3 hurr no
05:27 Diablo-D3 you dont solder those anyhow
05:28 Diablo-D3 you use no flow IR soldering
05:28 Diablo-D3 which requires expensive equipment
05:28 Diablo-D3 pcb manufacturing and parts mounting is largely an automated process
05:29 Scrat why buy robots when you can buy chinese
05:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00072857 = 14.28 BTC [+]
05:30 Diablo-D3 Scrat: not robots, although parts I think are still placed by hand
05:31 Diablo-D3 its just that humans have no place in some parts of the pipeline
05:31 Diablo-D3 they lower the product quality
05:31 thestringpuller Scrat is right yo. Dude I build computers all the time from random shit, if it works then add robots. You kids waste so much money. "ROBOTS"
05:32 thestringpuller I wanna see what the instruction set/data flow of the chip is ultimately then a computer can be designed from it.
05:33 thestringpuller awk. sentence sorry
05:33 taub < KRS-1> is market price only going up from here? this seems like the new resistance low?
05:33 taub don't count on it
05:33 thestringpuller ;;next
05:33 gribble targets: 120-123 | resistance: 142, 143-145| support: 137-139, 131-133, 120-123 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 30 2013, 16:01 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 17 hours, 32 minutes, and 16 seconds ago
05:33 thestringpuller lol
05:33 taub see how price is pushing down on it? and 15m doesnt show any sort of uptrend
05:33 thestringpuller I'd buy at 123 though
05:34 taub http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
05:34 thestringpuller that seems reasonable
05:34 taub ratio is below price
05:34 Scrat ;;bids 0
05:34 gribble There are currently 26807604 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 17655511.1269 USD in total. | Data vintage: 75.1327 seconds
05:35 thestringpuller dude it blew through 128 hahaha
05:36 taub i left #bitcoin-analysis
05:36 taub trying to give opinion on the market publicly is just another stumbling block for your ego in trading
05:36 taub as well as seeing the chatter of others, just confusing
05:39 taub not that anyone cares, but if you're in that channel you might want to consider if it really helps you or just confuses u
05:41 thestringpuller ;;calc (320 - 120)/120
05:41 gribble 1.66666666667
05:41 thestringpuller ;;calc (320 - 140)/140
05:41 gribble 1.28571428571
05:41 thestringpuller ;;calc (320 - 150)/150
05:41 gribble 1.13333333333
05:41 thestringpuller wtf.
05:41 thestringpuller is up with these puts
05:42 thestringpuller someone just donated money to the bot...
05:42 Chaang-Noi iv kinda wondered if we will go down too
05:42 Chaang-Noi glad i baited that finish guy into buying 700 coins from me
05:43 thestringpuller so everyone is bearish right now?
05:43 Chaang-Noi no
05:43 Chaang-Noi im cautious
05:43 Chaang-Noi i sold a few percent of my crypto wealth so i can live comfertablly if it goes down
05:43 thestringpuller no I meant position wise
05:43 thestringpuller I'm pretty much 80% bearish on trades
05:43 Chaang-Noi after the last peak we saw a few months of slow downness
05:43 thestringpuller right now
05:44 thestringpuller I'm waiting to buy
05:44 thestringpuller to go bull
05:44 Chaang-Noi oh, i was like 98% of wealth in crypto
05:44 Chaang-Noi im trying to make it like 80%
05:44 Chaang-Noi 10% cash 10% gold/silver
05:44 Chaang-Noi just to be safe and balanced
05:44 thestringpuller wait, do you know what I mean by bearish?
05:44 thestringpuller As in a short position facing down
05:44 thestringpuller like buying puts/selling calls
05:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00302256 = 0.136 BTC [-]
05:44 thestringpuller selling coin
05:44 thestringpuller etc
05:44 Chaang-Noi yeah i sold for cash to get out of the market, i wont buy back in
05:45 Chaang-Noi im not shorting btc
05:45 thestringpuller The price is hovering around 130 so I mean, I bought in at 10 BTC
05:45 thestringpuller err
05:45 thestringpuller 10 USD/BTC
05:45 Chaang-Noi that 100k usd wil never ever go back into crypto (unless we see single digets again)
05:45 thestringpuller and I thought that was high
05:45 Chaang-Noi i think we will hit 1000$ usd btc
05:46 Chaang-Noi but not for 2 years or more
05:46 Chaang-Noi so i want to take that 100k and well hookers and blow
05:46 chmod755 100k BTC?
05:46 Chaang-Noi usd
05:46 thestringpuller I don't want to buy back in until volatility goes down, I don't have time to trade, I just want more coin via work, and options
05:46 Chaang-Noi most of my btc is locked away for life
05:47 chmod755 ohh
05:47 chmod755 :D
05:47 thestringpuller chmoda+x
05:47 thestringpuller lol
05:47 thestringpuller jk
05:47 Chaang-Noi sell 100k btc for hookers and blow? oh lol
05:47 chmod755 lmao
05:47 Chaang-Noi 100k usd for hookers and blow will last me two years
05:47 Chaang-Noi that is if that finnish guy really sends
05:48 thestringpuller Chaang-Noi: So you have liquidity?
05:48 thestringpuller As in you can buy shit straight from BTC?
05:48 Chaang-Noi what?
05:48 Chaang-Noi i sold btc to a guy he is giving me cash
05:48 thestringpuller When I buy shit I'd buy on newegg or some other random site, I look for a BTC alternative first, and buy through btc
05:49 Chaang-Noi you know, i just dont buy much :/
05:49 thestringpuller I is in America
05:49 thestringpuller that's all we do
05:49 Chaang-Noi i really live on like 1k usd a month :/
05:49 Chaang-Noi to support a family
05:49 Chaang-Noi that 100k is litterly for hookers and blow...
05:50 Chaang-Noi i own every thing i want to own, and i think i have too much shit the way it is
05:50 Chaang-Noi i might get a 7990 but doubt it
05:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00072857 = 5.9014 BTC [+]
05:51 Chaang-Noi why did cognitive go up so fast?
05:51 Chaang-Noi people ahve hope in bfl, did they anounce something?
05:52 thestringpuller did you not hear they shipped?
05:52 Chaang-Noi only the small ones
05:52 Chaang-Noi cognitive has the 60 ghs ones
05:52 Chaang-Noi so as far as i know they are still waiting
05:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00072772 = 3.4203 BTC [-]
05:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104 @ 0.00071908 = 0.0748 BTC [-]
06:00 KRS-1 I'm waiting on a 60 ghash
06:01 KRS-1 lol chaang noi
06:01 KRS-1 its like that for a lot of my friends
06:03 Chaang-Noi they are waiting for bfl?
06:03 Chaang-Noi i really dont understand why so many ordred from them :/
06:10 KRS-1 their website had an "order" button
06:22 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.24999 = 2.2499 BTC [+]
06:22 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
06:23 Diablo-D3 so is BFL really shipoing now?
06:23 Diablo-D3 or is it just another ploy?
06:24 BitHub jus more lies
06:27 Chaang-Noi d3 seems they are shipping a few of the 5 ghs ones
06:27 Chaang-Noi none of the 30 or 60
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10532 @ 0.00069909 = 7.3628 BTC [-]
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18383 @ 0.00069419 = 12.7613 BTC [-]
06:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 335 @ 0.00069156 = 0.2317 BTC [-]
06:38 KRS-1 damnit
06:38 KRS-1 it will almost be a year since i ordered
06:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.213001 BTC [-]
06:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [+]
06:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
06:51 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+]
06:57 thestringpuller ;;ticker
06:57 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.26995, Best ask: 131.49900, Bid-ask spread: 0.22905, Last trade: 131.26995, 24 hour volume: 99188.06456120, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 135.60081
06:57 thestringpuller fuck
06:57 thestringpuller I missed the reversal?
06:57 thestringpuller too busy on reddit
06:57 Chaang-Noi well
06:57 Chaang-Noi its too early to call it eh?
06:58 thestringpuller 130 is the actual price bro
06:58 thestringpuller I wanted to get lower :(
06:58 thestringpuller at 127
06:59 Chaang-Noi you still might be able to
06:59 thestringpuller Looks like the bulls are assembling
06:59 thestringpuller it's morning in america deposits likely getting filled
07:00 thestringpuller I think the sell off for the moment is done.
07:10 thestringpuller ;;market sell 1000
07:10 gribble A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 129908.5788 USD and would take the last price down to 129.2600 USD, resulting in an average price of 129.9086 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 5.6609 seconds
07:10 thestringpuller ;;market buy 150
07:10 gribble A market order to buy 150 bitcoins right now would take 19889.7560 USD and would take the last price up to 132.8000 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.5984 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 14.5020 seconds
07:10 thestringpuller ;;market buy 300
07:10 gribble A market order to buy 300 bitcoins right now would take 39842.3059 USD and would take the last price up to 133.1900 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.8077 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 20.3122 seconds
07:10 thestringpuller ;;market buy 50
07:10 gribble A market order to buy 50 bitcoins right now would take 6624.9998 USD and would take the last price up to 132.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.5000 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 24.4355 seconds
07:10 thestringpuller ;;market buy 500
07:10 gribble A market order to buy 500 bitcoins right now would take 66549.4899 USD and would take the last price up to 133.9000 USD, resulting in an average price of 133.0990 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 27.6082 seconds
07:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26899 BTC [-]
07:20 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
07:20 gribble 135.14
07:25 error4733 ;;ticker
07:25 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 131.40001, Best ask: 131.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.59998, Last trade: 131.99999, 24 hour volume: 99565.86081847, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 135.56474
07:26 error4733 ;;bids 101
07:26 gribble There are currently 43521.888 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 5052515.48118 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0067 seconds
07:29 error4733 ;;eightball $115 today ?
07:29 gribble The answer is certainly yes.
07:30 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 36 @ 0.00328 = 0.1181 BTC [-]
07:32 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.003289 = 0.0329 BTC [+]
07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7350 @ 0.00291 = 21.3885 BTC [-]
~ 24 minutes ~
07:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00070522 = 8.6742 BTC [+]
08:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22601 BTC [-]
08:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00069285 = 6.9285 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.226 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2201 = 3.6603 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2201 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.213 = 2.426 BTC [-]
08:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10622 @ 0.00072857 = 7.7389 BTC [+]
08:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6728 @ 0.00073356 = 4.9354 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26499 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26999 BTC [+]
08:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [+]
08:25 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
08:25 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 132.10000, Best ask: 132.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.26000, Last trade: 132.10000, 24 hour volume: 100278.05955454, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 146.50000, 24 hour vwap: 135.48832
08:33 error4733 See you @ $110 http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
08:35 mircea_popescu heh
~ 15 minutes ~
08:50 deadweasel mornin
08:50 kakobrekla can anyone play this
08:50 kakobrekla http://www.nasdaq.com/video/unravelling-the-mysteries-of-bitcoin-517763955
08:51 deadweasel ya
08:51 deadweasel can't watch tho, at work already
08:51 kakobrekla what are they sayin
08:51 kakobrekla a
08:51 Scrat unavailable due to location
08:51 kakobrekla same here
08:52 Scrat nasdaq too cool for yurop
08:52 kakobrekla being in somalia takes its toll
08:53 deadweasel can't use a proxy or vpn?
08:55 mircea_popescu kakobrekla is not that asdvanced
08:55 mircea_popescu that's like... camwhore technologies.
08:55 kakobrekla :))
08:57 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-am-the-best-customer-rep-in-the-world/
08:57 mircea_popescu let it be entered into record.
09:03 Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191472.msg1993270#msg1993270
09:03 Chaang-Noi maybe this guy is just high all the time?
09:03 Chaang-Noi first time i see him talking about weed
09:03 Chaang-Noi and mp yeah THB is thai baht
09:04 Chaang-Noi he is calling for 1 millioin usd per btc by christmas
09:04 mircea_popescu what can i buy for 1000 thb ?
09:04 Chaang-Noi he must be high
09:04 Chaang-Noi mp 2 hours with a hot 18 year old girl
09:04 Chaang-Noi thats tourist prices
09:05 Chaang-Noi you can get tow girls for 2 hours for 1000 baht if you speak thai
09:05 Chaang-Noi two*
09:05 Chaang-Noi why do you ask?
09:07 Chaang-Noi hmm just did the math, i could get two girls every day for 7.26 years with the money he is wiring me...
09:08 Chaang-Noi however no blow...
09:08 mircea_popescu just curious
09:08 mircea_popescu and i dont buy girls, tbh.
09:08 Chaang-Noi this is the rate for renting
09:09 Chaang-Noi buying is much more
09:10 Chaang-Noi i think the cheapest to buy is like $2,000 usd but start to go up if you want anything but the lowest class
09:10 Chaang-Noi some girls are in the millions of baht so like 100kusd plus
09:12 kakobrekla ;;bc,convert thb
09:12 gribble 1 BTC = 131.43204 U.S. dollars = 3 845.74087 Thai baht
09:12 kakobrekla wtf
09:12 Chaang-Noi that is right
09:12 kakobrekla 1 btc = 3.845 girls for an hour?
09:12 kakobrekla 2 hours
09:12 Chaang-Noi yeah
09:13 kakobrekla so
09:13 kakobrekla ;;calc 3.845*2
09:13 gribble 7.69
09:13 Chaang-Noi keep in mind the average wage here for a month is just over $200
09:13 kakobrekla 7.69 of a girl for an hour
09:13 kakobrekla ill take 20
09:13 Chaang-Noi kako if you did you would not be the first
09:13 kakobrekla id imagine
09:14 Chaang-Noi but its hard to find 20 hot 18 year olds in one spot willing
09:14 Chaang-Noi if you can go 18 to 24 or so yopu are going to be golden
09:14 kakobrekla lolk
09:15 Chaang-Noi hot girls realize they can make like $1000 a month sleeping around so they do it. parents after 20 years only make $200 a month
09:15 Chaang-Noi wages really suck here
09:15 kakobrekla i doubt ill ever go for that really, but hey it doesnt hurt to know the prices
09:15 Chaang-Noi skilled westerners in demand only get about $1,000 usd a month here, unless they are in some super needed speical feild
09:15 kakobrekla lol
09:15 error4733 yes but food is cheap
09:15 error4733 rent is cheap
09:15 error4733 girl are cheap
09:16 Chaang-Noi thats not why i went. yeah rent, and food is fuck all
09:16 Chaang-Noi everything is cheap
09:16 error4733 boze same
09:16 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi> keep in mind the average wage here for a month is just over $200 << romania is about the same.
09:16 mircea_popescu of course girls here are tall, with big tits and normal eyes.
09:16 kakobrekla uh that low?
09:16 Chaang-Noi everything but luxary cars and high end electronics is cheap here
09:16 mircea_popescu yeah.
09:16 mircea_popescu kakobrekla minimum wage is actually 120 usd.
09:16 Chaang-Noi mp what is the going rate for 2 hours wiht an 18 year old there?
09:16 kakobrekla a coin.
09:16 mircea_popescu i have literally no idea, i've never paid.
09:17 mircea_popescu probably a fiddy bux i guess
09:17 Chaang-Noi 1000 baht is about 20 buck
09:17 Chaang-Noi sorry 30
09:17 mircea_popescu ya well, tell you what, if i were to pay i don't think i'd ask for change.
09:17 Chaang-Noi seems about right i guess
09:18 Chaang-Noi if you speak thai there is no need to pay, and im assuming the same for romania
09:18 Chaang-Noi however i doubt a thai guy in romaina would get it for free with out a bit of luck
09:18 mircea_popescu in my experience so far if you're not an idiot you don't need to pay. us or romania, mexico or egypt even
09:19 Chaang-Noi yeah, but at times it is faster and just easyer to pay
09:19 kakobrekla lol
09:19 Chaang-Noi most guys would pay $30 not to have the date/foreplay and just do what they want
09:20 mircea_popescu but i enjoy talking with women
09:20 Chaang-Noi time is money...
09:20 Chaang-Noi oh
09:20 Chaang-Noi well...
09:20 Chaang-Noi then i guess that works for you. id rather not in most cases
09:20 deadweasel but they won't make you dinner and wash your clothes, which saves time
09:20 mircea_popescu who am i going to talk to, dudes ?
09:20 Scrat dudes intellectually challenge you
09:20 Chaang-Noi you talk to me
09:20 mircea_popescu half the time i'm thinking "why am i even talking to this guy, he doesn't even have tits"
09:20 Scrat :/
09:21 Scrat only 0.1% of women do
09:21 Chaang-Noi lol if im talking to a girl im like, why the fuck am i talking to her, she has tits...
09:21 mircea_popescu Scrat no they don't. once you are one with the inner woman dudes are too easy.
09:21 Scrat hard to find
09:21 mircea_popescu Scrat super easy to find. you know why ? they tend to know each other.
09:21 Chaang-Noi deadweasel wife is not same as renting a girl for a few hours. you can do both
09:21 mircea_popescu before you know it i's like "hey i have this friend i want you to meet"
09:21 deadweasel not wife
09:22 Chaang-Noi well i have a wife and a maid, maid costs $200 a month, wife a bit more...
09:22 deadweasel she's my fucking ladyfriend
09:23 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi don't you ever get bored ?
09:23 Chaang-Noi im bored right now
09:23 KRS1 "just stay away from my fucking lady friend"
09:24 Scrat Chaang-Noi how much do ladyboys go for
09:24 Chaang-Noi i think the same or less
09:24 KRS1 mircea_popescu?
09:24 mircea_popescu hm ?
09:24 KRS1 isn't the proper nomenclature "ladyboi"
09:25 KRS1 in BTC
09:25 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23003 BTC [-]
09:25 KRS1 Does anyone know if any of the BFL units will play leet games like Crysis..I'm expecting mine soon and want to see what that sumbitch can do
09:26 deadweasel nope
09:26 deadweasel nothing but hash
09:26 deadweasel btw, rikur is in a tizzy
09:26 Chaang-Noi Am is up to 10 th
09:27 Chaang-Noi i doubt they will hit their goal of 15 th this week if they dont speed it up
09:27 deadweasel and technically, I do pay her. I rent out her basement, then a month lady started sleeping with her. now I pay my girlfriend rent! shit..
09:27 deadweasel s/lady/later
09:27 Chaang-Noi http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/willardfoxton2/100009112/the-online-drug-marketplace-silk-road-is-collapsing-did-hackers-government-or-bitcoin-kill-it/ love it when the media trollz
09:27 ThickAsThieves ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192498.0
09:27 gribble [ANNOUNCEMENT] [Bitfunder] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough!
09:27 Scrat well MP, maybe I need to get out more. or become a millionaire. or both
09:27 ThickAsThieves ;;title https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192499.0
09:27 gribble [ANNOUNCEMENT] [BTC-TC] TAT.ASICMINER New Micro-share Passthrough!
09:28 ThickAsThieves Please show your support!
09:28 mircea_popescu <deadweasel> and technically, I do pay her. I rent out her basement, then a month lady started sleeping with her. now I pay my girlfriend rent! shit.. <<< bwahahah
09:28 mircea_popescu you basement dweller you.
09:28 Chaang-Noi :)
09:28 mircea_popescu anyway, this is ripe for humiliation games, next time you pay her rent give her a dollah and make her suck your cock for it.
09:28 deadweasel it's true :(
09:29 Chaang-Noi Thick where is this being listed?
09:29 deadweasel she gives me more good sex than i can handle. she's a fucking animal. literally.
09:29 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves o is that yours ? what's the idea ?
09:29 ThickAsThieves yes
09:29 ThickAsThieves it wil;l be listed on both BTCT and BF
09:29 Scrat A “dead man’s switch” will be implemented in order to pass control of this asset to a safe secondary operator in the case of the issuer’s untimely demise or hospitalization.
09:29 Scrat :D
09:29 ThickAsThieves it's essentially 1/100 shares
09:29 ThickAsThieves also another venue to obtain board seat benefits
09:30 mircea_popescu Scrat http://imgur.com/7SIRY0f
09:30 ThickAsThieves (should they ever appear)
09:30 Scrat nice
09:30 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so you bought how many shares ? on PTs or direct ?
09:30 ThickAsThieves I've got about 500 or so
09:31 mircea_popescu and you split them up into 50k ?
09:31 ThickAsThieves yes
09:31 ThickAsThieves will use IPO to reinvest as needed
09:31 mircea_popescu so people can buy for 1 dollar. i get it
09:31 mircea_popescu a pt to the pts, because people refused to implement the mpex standard
09:32 ThickAsThieves this probly wouldve happened even if AM did IPO on mpex
09:32 Chaang-Noi well, the main pass thoughs or at least the one on btct is already talking about a 1/100 split in the price
09:32 Chaang-Noi i think they had a motion on it
09:32 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i just mean the small share price.
09:32 Chaang-Noi im pretty sure i voted yess on it
09:32 ThickAsThieves yeah,
09:32 mircea_popescu as in make shares be 10k-100k satoshi sort of thing
09:33 mircea_popescu "This is because of the fact that I am cool, and most of you are not. If I spend bitcoins, the universe is busy giving them back to me."
09:33 ThickAsThieves he posted his forum thread as I was formatting mine
09:33 mircea_popescu "coolness is a trait that one can develop. One of the ways to develop it, is to spend time with cool people, such as me."
09:33 ThickAsThieves my BTCT app is submitted
09:33 mircea_popescu basically uppitty tortilla is offering friend services ?
09:33 ThickAsThieves I spoke with Burnside about it beforehand
09:33 mircea_popescu that's overpriced.
09:33 ThickAsThieves and he said go for it
09:33 Chaang-Noi okay well im pretty srue i voted on the motion to do a split to 1/100 2 days ago but not 1005 sure
09:33 Chaang-Noi okay
09:33 ThickAsThieves yeah Burnside made no mention to me of this...
09:34 mircea_popescu http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Screen-Shot-2013-05-01-at-8.25.46-AM-620x426.png
09:34 ThickAsThieves I do think mine is better than ryan's ofc
09:34 mircea_popescu that dude got worked on in the venezuela parliament.
09:34 mircea_popescu apparently they had a row :D
09:34 ThickAsThieves particularly since it will appear on both exxchanges
09:34 ThickAsThieves making uptake better
09:35 ThickAsThieves mine also doesn't have a bunch of silly games with mgmt fees
09:35 ThickAsThieves mine does not allow import/export of shares
09:35 ThickAsThieves I am sole manager
09:35 ThickAsThieves etc
09:36 ThickAsThieves i tried to make it different enough to, well, be different than the existing PTs
09:36 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves cool.
09:37 mircea_popescu "To MP:
09:37 mircea_popescu I cannot understand why you continue to bully your inferiors and not speak kindly (as I do), towards all who want to understand. You only posted me a proof this week that you actually have a PR lady, until that I had thought you are a schizophrenic. Your PR is not doing a good job, if I were you I would think again how to present yourself to the world. I do not believe your business is worth 700,000,000mBTC and mine is
09:37 mircea_popescu only 400,000mBTC. As I speak the truth in kindness, and you don't, the valuation of your business will decline and mine will increase. You understand all this, so I await for a change in strategy or the continued decline of your importance."
09:37 mircea_popescu hum, where can i see my importance graph ?
09:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26489 BTC [+]
09:42 Chaang-Noi mp you showed it to me
09:42 Chaang-Noi its the the capitalazation of s.dice vs mpoe
09:42 Chaang-Noi you remember that one? :)
09:43 mircea_popescu yeh
09:43 mircea_popescu atm im at the peak tho,
09:43 mircea_popescu !t m s.dice
09:43 assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00291 / 0.00292345 / 0.00319322 (7745 shares, 22.64 BTC), 7D: 0.00278789 / 0.00304025 / 0.00349938 (39765 shares, 120.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00310069 / 0.00439999 (940382 shares, 2,915.83 BTC)
09:43 mircea_popescu !t m s.mpoe
09:43 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069156 / 0.00071665 / 0.00073864 (408216 shares, 292.55 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00070504 / 0.00076528 (2569174 shares, 1,811.39 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069719 / 0.00076528 (10160766 shares, 7,084.08 BTC)
09:43 Chaang-Noi well there you go:)
09:43 mircea_popescu like 2.x whatever
09:45 deadweasel who's letter was that, mp?
09:45 mircea_popescu the ever ebullient petrilla guy
09:46 mircea_popescu deadweasel or you mean the bitbet letter ?
09:48 KRS1 mp you seem to be a popular guy so far today
09:48 Chaang-Noi mp is pretty popular for never posting on the forum
09:48 Chaang-Noi i think its cuz most people think his pr guy is him
09:48 Chaang-Noi or girl if she is one
09:49 KRS1 im reading what this guy is saying in #bitcoin-analysis
09:49 Chaang-Noi did not even know that was a chan
09:50 KRS1 Yes, and there is also #bitcoin-anal which is also a lovely channel.
09:50 deadweasel lol, rikur and petriella are srsly butthurt
09:51 KRS1 Is it true mp wont accept any critics or feedback?
09:51 mircea_popescu aww whart nao.
09:51 mircea_popescu KRS1 try it and see.
09:51 KRS1 I kind of thought he was a pretty amicable fellow.
09:52 KRS1 I'll have to come up with something.
~ 15 minutes ~
10:07 deadweasel i hated mircea_popescu when i got here... I thought "what an arrogant twat". I still think that, but also I think you are correct most of the time.... your delivery is usually lacking grace, but you are generally correct.
10:08 mircea_popescu what, seriously ?
10:08 mircea_popescu i had no idea you hated me.
10:08 mircea_popescu when was this ?
10:08 deadweasel srsly :) the first few weeks I was here.
10:09 deadweasel but as I slowly discovered, your points were correct if ill-delivered.
10:09 BitHub i want to smother the guy with a pillow in his sleep
10:09 mircea_popescu i guess i
10:09 mircea_popescu 'm arrogantly twatty enough to not notice
10:09 deadweasel which is way more important in my mind, I have a thick skin
10:09 mircea_popescu or maybe you had the sense to stfu and lurk
10:09 deadweasel lol bithub, we've all felt that
10:09 deadweasel i tend not to react
10:09 BitHub hehe so hostile
10:09 deadweasel and I tend to do exactly that
10:10 mircea_popescu good strategy.
10:10 mircea_popescu BitHub if you're a girl some pillow stuff may be arranged :D
10:10 ThickAsThieves candor is an acquired taste
10:10 BitHub not pillow biting :B
10:10 deadweasel but no worries, mp, I enjoy your sparky attitude these days, it necessary.
10:10 mircea_popescu deadweasel contrary to what they say, i don't mind criticism etc.
10:10 BitHub don't do it, your bitcoi rep is on teh line
10:10 mircea_popescu actually...
10:10 Chaang-Noi mp if you have not seen it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1994500#msg1994500
10:11 deadweasel i know you don't mp
10:11 ThickAsThieves i think mp knows exactly how some people will receive him, and does indeed of enough of a narcissistic bent to be okay with it
10:11 mircea_popescu Apr 15 15:45:21 <jcpham>nah unbalanced_ he likes criticism
10:11 mircea_popescu Apr 15 15:45:28 <jcpham>loves it
10:11 ThickAsThieves this does not make him a bad person
10:11 ThickAsThieves or someone to hate
10:12 deadweasel i don't, I quite enjoy mircea_popescu these days, i just had to get over my own ignorant butt hurt pride. it takes a minute or two... :)
10:12 ThickAsThieves the thing that actually caught my attention most about mp wasnt the arrogance, that always comes with intelligent internet chatters,
10:13 ThickAsThieves it's his paternal effect on the room
10:13 ThickAsThieves mp is somehow our daddy
10:13 deadweasel when you come in here ignorant, and MP laws down the fucking law, and you don't like or don't agree, it's hard on the old self-importance gland.
10:13 Scrat no homo?
10:13 ThickAsThieves it's evident constantly
10:13 deadweasel no doubt ThickAsThieves
10:13 deadweasel no
10:13 mircea_popescu no homo
10:13 deadweasel no homo
10:13 mircea_popescu deadweasel some people are way better at coping than others.
10:13 ThickAsThieves no homo
10:13 mircea_popescu to me it connotes intelligence.
10:15 ThickAsThieves is mp old?
10:15 ThickAsThieves maybe thats why
10:15 mircea_popescu im very old.
10:15 ThickAsThieves like 55+?
10:15 mircea_popescu like almost 35
10:15 ThickAsThieves lol
10:15 mircea_popescu what. that's way old. all you 20something young cocks!!1
10:16 ThickAsThieves 34
10:16 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi lol
10:16 BitHub 14/f
10:17 mircea_popescu http://ctrlq.org/files/screenshots/6a630eefd44705f3ead4d3e81658fa9b.png
10:17 Scrat you an abo BitHub?
10:17 mircea_popescu here's a ss just in case.
10:17 BitHub haha an abo, christ
10:18 mircea_popescu what;s an abo ?
10:19 BitHub oh mircea
10:19 BitHub pic time
10:19 Scrat abo = indigenous aus
10:19 mircea_popescu o o
10:20 BitHub been with a few half abs before scrat, not bad
10:20 ThickAsThieves apparently SR is being extorted?
10:20 ThickAsThieves ;;title http://au.businessinsider.com/silkroad-attack-hyperdeflation-2013-5
10:20 gribble REPORT: Infamous Bitcoin Marketplace SilkRoad Is On The Verge Of Collapse Abd Suffering Massive Hyperdeflation | Business Insider Australia
10:20 mircea_popescu lolright.
10:21 BitHub the australian media reports have been lulz
10:21 ThickAsThieves Abd
10:23 deadweasel ^? what is abd?
10:23 deadweasel aboriginal?
10:25 ThickAsThieves it's "and" for hack au journalists
10:27 deadweasel apparently so. thx
10:27 thestringpuller lol
10:28 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I bought a ticket to romania
10:28 thestringpuller I will post pics
10:28 thestringpuller WE HANG OUT YES?
10:28 thestringpuller lol
10:28 Scrat so, mid-week downwards trend?
10:28 BitHub tits
10:28 Scrat sup
10:28 mircea_popescu hang out with the cocks out
10:29 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/trilema/meet-trilema/
10:30 mircea_popescu haven't had those since 2010 i think
10:30 thestringpuller Hahaha
10:30 thestringpuller Deceiving.
10:30 ThickAsThieves i welcome the price dip, for now
10:31 ThickAsThieves AM is at 10,000
10:32 thestringpuller Yea but it's gonna have that whiplash from yesterday
10:32 thestringpuller 130 is a good buy target
10:32 deadweasel https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1994500#msg1994500
10:33 deadweasel ^lol mpoe-pr
10:34 ThickAsThieves itll fo below 230
10:34 ThickAsThieves 130*
10:34 ThickAsThieves i'm thinking mor elike 120
10:35 mircea_popescu deadweasel apparently he deleted it once.
10:35 lippoper2 ;;next
10:35 gribble targets: 120-123 | resistance: 142, 143-145| support: 137-139, 131-133, 120-123 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 30 2013, 16:01 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 22 hours, 34 minutes, and 58 seconds ago
10:36 lippoper2 ;;ticker
10:36 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.60001, Best ask: 128.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.29998, Last trade: 128.60001, 24 hour volume: 93594.34085401, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 142.88667, 24 hour vwap: 134.39986
10:36 lippoper2 ;;ticker --vo
10:36 gribble 93594.34085401
10:36 thestringpuller ThickAsThieves: I think you're overestimating current speculators
10:36 deadweasel mircea_popescu: I would too if my faux conference was being taken apart.
10:36 deadweasel it's wildy entertaining though.
10:36 mircea_popescu whoa that guy with the puts
10:36 mircea_popescu 128, srsly ?
10:37 thestringpuller how many outstanding puts went to the bot?
10:37 mircea_popescu deadweasel it is.
10:37 thestringpuller 4000 right?
10:37 mircea_popescu 4k
10:37 error4733 told you :) see you @ 110$
10:37 thestringpuller ;;calc (320 - 120)/120 * 4000
10:37 gribble 6666.66666667
10:37 thestringpuller So like 1000 BTC...
10:38 thestringpuller Why are people giving the bot free money?
10:38 ThickAsThieves for the good of bitcoin stability, like all things bot related
10:38 ThickAsThieves ;)
10:39 thestringpuller Good way to start off the month if it truly does hit 120
10:39 mircea_popescu um
10:39 mircea_popescu afaik it was sold for like 1.25
10:39 mircea_popescu now like 1.4 or so
10:39 mircea_popescu so like 600 maybe
10:39 thestringpuller but at 120 it'll exercise for
10:39 thestringpuller ;;calc (320 - 120)/120
10:39 gribble 1.66666666667
10:39 ThickAsThieves is this a vacation week in Japan?
10:40 thestringpuller so .4 per put?
10:40 ThickAsThieves that results in lack of cash into Gox from Japan?
10:40 thestringpuller ;;calc 4000 * .4
10:40 gribble 1600
10:40 mircea_popescu like .15
10:40 thestringpuller yea we're talking 1k earned @ bc,24hprc = 120
10:40 thestringpuller I thought all 4000 were sold < 1.3
10:41 mircea_popescu like 1.25 iirc
10:41 mircea_popescu o o nm
10:41 mircea_popescu i see what you mean
10:41 thestringpuller yea so the bot is getting free money pretty much lol
10:41 thestringpuller if it hits 120 bc,24hprc
10:41 mircea_popescu yeah. well... obviously they guy was expecting price uptrend
10:42 ThickAsThieves not free money
10:42 ThickAsThieves bot paid dearly last 2 mos
10:43 mircea_popescu yeah, sometimes it goes one way, sometimes it goes the other wya.
10:46 thestringpuller the last 2 mos were a perfect storm, I don't think it was nearly as bad as Augush 2012
10:46 thestringpuller August*
10:46 ThickAsThieves http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stam
10:46 ThickAsThieves "I just witnessed Brad stam his girlfriend. It was terrifying."
10:47 mircea_popescu august was like 45% or somthing
10:47 thestringpuller Last month was ~22% no?
10:48 mircea_popescu yea
10:48 mircea_popescu http://nsnbc.me/2013/04/18/federal-reserve-refuses-to-submit-to-an-audit-of-germanys-gold-held-in-u-s-vaults-2/
10:48 mircea_popescu this stuff is wicked
10:48 mircea_popescu The FED came to all countries in Asia, Latin America and Africa and told them their gold holdings might not be safe because of the war, and they should permit the FED to take all of it to the US for safekeeping. Many countries obliged, receiving FED gold certificates in exchange, but when they later tried to cash in those certificates and reclaim their gold, they were told the certificates were fake, that they containe
10:48 mircea_popescu d spelling and other mistakes which the FED would never have made, and that the serial numbers were wrong. And the FED still has all that gold.
10:48 mircea_popescu They even did that to Chiang Kai-Shek, taking all of Taiwan’s gold – that had been looted from China – and never returning it. The last I heard, Chiang’s wife was still trying to recover her gold from the FED.
10:48 mircea_popescu Apparently a few people have been successful in presenting their certificates to the FED, with documentation that was irrefutable, but even in those cases the owners were forced to settle for only 1% or 2% of the actual value. And most other people or nations who attempt to redeem these certificates are arrested by the FBI for fraud – at the request of the FED.
10:48 mircea_popescu i wonder how much of that is true ?!
10:50 thestringpuller War never changes
10:50 Chaang-Noi nsnbc,me is that a real media site???
10:50 deadweasel i read that yesterday MP, i've been following the gold scandals for about 7 years
10:50 damientrog wtf
10:50 deadweasel the tungsten plated bars?
10:51 deadweasel http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-24/get-your-fake-tungsten-filled-gold-coins-here
10:51 mircea_popescu the tungsten stuff is kinda old.
10:51 damientrog Germans have invaded countries for far less
10:51 deadweasel the FED, i believe, has been hollowing out all their 'protective custody' gold and filling with tungsten.
10:51 deadweasel thing is, nobody has been able to check any of the gold hoards, so could all be that way
10:52 Chaang-Noi nsnbc.me ? i have never ever heard of that site? are they a real site or just trollin?
10:52 deadweasel no doubt damientrog
10:52 damientrog yeah they visited us twice in the last century :)
10:52 SatoshiPoker logout
10:53 mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i hacve no idea
10:53 bpvanoort ;;gpg eregister bpvanoort F8E8339C9B5A8C17
10:53 gribble Request successful for user bpvanoort, hostmask bpvanoort!329a06b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.154.6.177. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F8E8339C9B5A8C17
10:53 Chaang-Noi yeah, i kinda question the source
10:57 bpvanoort gpg --decrypt
10:58 Scrat deadweasel: why even do that? it would be much easier and controllable to just restrict access to select few people
10:58 bpvanoort ;;gpg eauth bpvanoort
10:58 gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
10:59 mircea_popescu "MPOE-PR did reply with insult"
10:59 bpvanoort ;;gpg eregister bpvanoort F8E8339C9B5A8C17
10:59 mircea_popescu it replied with insult!!
10:59 gribble Request successful for user bpvanoort, hostmask bpvanoort!329a06b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.154.6.177. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F8E8339C9B5A8C17
10:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.010001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
10:59 mircea_popescu bpvanoort you need to decript the text on your own system,
10:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1500 @ 0.01 = 15 BTC [-]
10:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00995 = 0.0498 BTC [-]
10:59 mircea_popescu if you're on linux just run gpg
10:59 mircea_popescu if on windows probably have to install something.
10:59 bpvanoort i run windows 7
10:59 bpvanoort i have installed gpg
11:00 mircea_popescu so then open a terminal and go gpg
11:00 bpvanoort i follow http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication
11:00 mircea_popescu paste the text in there
11:00 bpvanoort ok
11:00 bpvanoort thank you :)
11:00 mircea_popescu http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/F8E8339C9B5A8C17 << copy text from there
11:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26599 BTC [+]
11:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.266 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.267 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.268 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.269 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26997 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.26998 = 2.54 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27 BTC [+]
11:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.27988 = 2.5598 BTC [+]
11:05 Chaang-Noi still too cheap
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27988 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.27989 BTC [+]
11:05 bpvanoort i do that, then i decrypt in pgp but i dont get the freenode: line
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.2799 = 8.9593 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2799 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.27991 = 3.8397 BTC [+]
11:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.279911 BTC [+]
11:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.279912 = 12.7991 BTC [+]
11:09 Scrat bpvanoort: ctrl + D
11:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23018 BTC [-]
11:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23017 BTC [-]
11:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
11:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.226001 BTC [-]
11:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.226 = 6.13 BTC [-]
11:09 Chaang-Noi lol sell right before dividends, lulz
11:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.225 = 4.9 BTC [-]
11:11 bpvanoort ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:532f2b9857b627dd4b3c092e22b575afc72094b9ff08fd22ba231c06
11:11 gribble Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user bpvanoort with key F8E8339C9B5A8C17
11:11 thestringpuller lol
11:11 thestringpuller a new gpg user?
11:11 thestringpuller :)
11:11 bpvanoort :)
11:11 deadweasel Scrat, isn't that what they are doing? Nobody has audited the gold since 1947 or something.. those that have come close get 1 little piece to check out.
11:11 thestringpuller ;;getrating bpvanoort
11:11 gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask bpvanoort!329a06b1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.154.6.177 .
11:11 thestringpuller welcome aboard
11:11 bpvanoort I apologize if i spammed in any way
11:11 deadweasel no worries, it's a requirement of getting OTC working.
11:11 bpvanoort ok
11:12 bpvanoort do i neet to everify every time i come in here?
11:12 thestringpuller As a man wiser than myself once said, "We all started as a novice once".
11:12 thestringpuller bpvanoort: no
11:12 thestringpuller bpvanoort: only if you leave irc
11:12 thestringpuller or gribble goes down
11:12 bpvanoort great
11:13 mircea_popescu basically each time gribble loses sight of you
11:13 mircea_popescu but you only really need to be logged in if you rate somebody or if you're writing a contract
11:13 mircea_popescu so it's not too bad.
11:13 thestringpuller for instance
11:14 thestringpuller ;;ident mircea_popescu
11:14 gribble Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.
11:14 thestringpuller but we still believe it's him
11:14 bpvanoort haha okay
11:14 thestringpuller Or are you reall kakobrekla in disguise?
11:14 bpvanoort all i need to identify on other machines is the passphrase righ?
11:14 bpvanoort right?
11:14 thestringpuller you need key
11:14 thestringpuller private key
11:15 mircea_popescu you need the key, on gpg.
11:15 bpvanoort the 16 character one?
11:15 mircea_popescu no, the private key.
11:15 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/pgp/
11:16 mircea_popescu the long gibberish thing there is my public key
11:16 mircea_popescu the private key is similar but longer, and secret.
11:16 mircea_popescu you have to keep it safe, take good care of it.
11:16 bpvanoort this one i didnt get yet
11:16 mircea_popescu this is serious business, losing your keys can cause damage
11:17 mircea_popescu as anyone can sign for you. think of it exactly as your irl signature
11:17 bpvanoort alright
11:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6890 @ 0.00072889 = 5.0221 BTC [-]
11:17 mircea_popescu except if someone signs with yours NOBODY will believe it wasn't you
11:17 bpvanoort should it be in my pgp folder?
11:17 mircea_popescu gpg encrypts it in its keyring.
11:17 mircea_popescu to extract it there's a special command.
11:17 mircea_popescu but be safe with it.
11:18 Framedragger (for those who manually auth each time - there are scripts to automate gribble auth fyi!)
11:18 bpvanoort thanks for the advice. I can't have Satoshi Poker being compromised because of being a newb in gpg
11:18 mircea_popescu yes.
11:18 mircea_popescu best advice is let the key be,
11:19 mircea_popescu copy the keyring file somewhere in a truecrypt volume
11:19 mircea_popescu for backup
11:19 Framedragger (indeed - i keep my truecrypt volume file in dropbox and consider it a sane and safe choice. i keep ultraimportant backups on that truecrypt volume.)
11:20 bpvanoort alright, i will do that as I switch notebooks all the time
11:21 mircea_popescu it's not a disaster if you have only one notebook than can sign
11:21 mircea_popescu and keep it locked up
11:21 mircea_popescu you will never need this like INSTA and unexpectedly anwyay
11:21 Troic_ doubts/questions on truecrypt been resolved now ?
11:22 bpvanoort yes
11:22 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.222 BTC [-]
11:23 bpvanoort thanks a lot for all the help
11:23 Framedragger Troic_, which ones? i'm probably in the dark, would be interested to hear (links?)
11:23 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.221 = 0.884 BTC [-]
11:24 Troic_ I seem to remember there where a whole bunch of issues regarding its closed source nature (at the time ? )
11:24 Framedragger oh, must have been a long time ago
11:25 Framedragger k, thanks. yeah, as i take it, it's currently well-regarded in underground / security circles (afaik)
11:25 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4211 BTC [+]
11:26 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.42101 = 2.1051 BTC [-]
11:33 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @ 0.22 = 2.2 BTC [-]
11:35 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42101 BTC [-]
11:36 mircea_popescu afaik its open source now
11:37 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.20101 BTC [-]
11:37 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.201 BTC [-]
11:40 error4733 ;;asks 999999999999
11:40 gribble There are currently 165283.72 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.43638396996e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 101.3467 seconds
11:40 mircea_popescu ;;goxlag
11:40 gribble MtGox lag is 0.251057 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000503115417026 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
11:40 error4733 ;;bids 0
11:41 gribble There are currently 26807424 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 18109311.7963 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0120 seconds
11:41 mircea_popescu why is the vintage 101 and the lag .2 ?
11:41 mircea_popescu nanotube any idea ?
11:41 nanotube mircea_popescu: vintage means "how long ago was the order book data retrieved"
11:42 jcpham http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1dglil/popular_competitive_gaming_league_esea_admins/
11:42 nanotube gribble caches the book data for 120 seconds
11:42 nanotube to avoid flooding mtgox
11:42 mircea_popescu a cache aha
11:42 mircea_popescu ty
11:42 nanotube np :)
11:43 mircea_popescu whoa jcpham
11:43 jcpham just a little bit, right
11:43 jcpham and that's a small gaming company
11:44 jcpham well CS isn't small
11:46 assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 6 @ 0.689 = 4.134 BTC [+]
11:53 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4275 BTC [+]
11:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264979 BTC [+]
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26497 BTC [-]
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264979 BTC [+]
12:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26899 BTC [+]
12:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15950 @ 0.00072787 = 11.6095 BTC [-]
12:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00071204 = 7.8324 BTC [-]
12:15 deadweasel ;;ticker
12:15 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 128.30001, Best ask: 128.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.69998, Last trade: 128.30001, 24 hour volume: 88882.60688582, 24 hour low: 127.19900, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 133.53842
12:15 Technologov any assets on sale? stocks ?
12:15 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.265 = 2.53 BTC [-]
12:16 mircea_popescu plenty.
12:16 Technologov which ones ?
12:16 Technologov list plz.
12:16 ThickAsThieves lol
12:16 mircea_popescu !t m s.mpoe
12:16 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00069156 / 0.00071695 / 0.00073864 (432507 shares, 310.09 BTC), 7D: 0.00064 / 0.00070566 / 0.00076528 (2580745 shares, 1,821.14 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069776 / 0.00076528 (10143106 shares, 7,077.47 BTC)
12:16 mircea_popescu !t m s.dice
12:16 assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00291 / 0.00291068 / 0.00302256 (7395 shares, 21.52 BTC), 7D: 0.00278789 / 0.00304025 / 0.00349938 (39765 shares, 120.90 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00308812 / 0.00439999 (886602 shares, 2,737.94 BTC)
12:16 thestringpuller I'll sell 5mn shares of Ziggap for 1 btc each
12:16 mircea_popescu !t m s.bbet
12:16 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00100005 / 0.00105714 / 0.00199994 (16200 shares, 17.13 BTC), 7D: 0.00099999 / 0.0014621 / 0.00199994 (135310 shares, 197.84 BTC), 30D: 0.0007531 / 0.00160815 / 0.00201394 (262680 shares, 422.43 BTC)
12:16 mircea_popescu !t b asicminer-pt
12:16 assbot It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.
12:17 mircea_popescu hum
12:17 thestringpuller !t btctc asicminer-pt
12:17 assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1.20602 / 1.25733 / 1.30999 (270 shares, 339.5 BTC), 7D: 1.0711 / 1.24101 / 1.34698 (1682 shares, 2087.4 BTC), 30D: 0.6269 / 0.98436 / 1.75 (7143 shares, 7031.3 BTC)
12:17 mircea_popescu there's maybe 500 other pinksheets stuff.
12:18 Technologov s.bbet = ??
12:19 Technologov hmm BBET = Bitcoin casino.
12:19 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/
12:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 40 @ 0.31000001 = 12.4 BTC [-]
12:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.31 = 10.23 BTC [-]
12:21 thestringpuller bitbet is lame
12:21 thestringpuller they scam their customers
12:22 thestringpuller by reversing the outcome of bets
12:22 thestringpuller lol jk
12:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.00296589 = 12.0119 BTC [+]
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 41 @ 0.31 = 12.71 BTC [-]
12:26 mircea_popescu http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2013/04/antibiotic-protects-men-from-attractive-women.html
12:26 mircea_popescu ahem.
12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00296589 = 0.1483 BTC [+]
12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4050 @ 0.00302256 = 12.2414 BTC [+]
12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 655 @ 0.00302256 = 1.9798 BTC [+]
12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 345 @ 0.00311776 = 1.0756 BTC [+]
12:27 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
12:27 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.67379, Best ask: 125.69999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02620, Last trade: 125.70000, 24 hour volume: 91477.79763376, 24 hour low: 125.89000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 133.27199
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 51 @ 0.31 = 15.81 BTC [-]
12:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.265 BTC [-]
12:28 ThickAsThieves big dump
12:28 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
12:28 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 124.87616, Best ask: 124.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00384, Last trade: 124.90000, 24 hour volume: 92760.18820961, 24 hour low: 125.10000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 133.16109
12:29 error4733 ;;goxlag
12:29 gribble MtGox lag is 29.035313 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0581864421564 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU).
12:29 thestringpuller oh wow plummeting
12:29 joecool quality
12:30 thestringpuller If it breaks through to 120 it's gonna cause whiplash
12:30 thestringpuller ;;next
12:30 gribble targets: 120-123 to go 50/50 cash/btc and re-evaluate situation | updated by OneFixt at May 1 2013, 15:52 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 38 minutes and 46 seconds ago
12:31 error4733 http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
12:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00069572 = 10.5402 BTC [-]
12:33 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
12:33 gribble 132.93
12:33 thestringpuller ;;calc (134 - 120) / 120
12:33 gribble 0.116666666667
12:38 jcpham http://www.pophams.com/blog/bitcoinmining-conclusions
12:38 jcpham that's a funny blog post from october 2011
12:39 mircea_popescu davout so how's reading code coming along ?
12:39 mircea_popescu found any new gerbils yet ?
12:40 davout mircea_popescu: wut
12:40 mircea_popescu you're supposed to be working on bitcoin-central, what
12:40 mircea_popescu you thought it's vacation time ?
12:40 mircea_popescu jcpham http://www.pophams.com/_/rsrc/1261591123886/072906025Large-custom-size-170-128.jpg is that miss popham ?
12:41 jcpham sexual predator
12:41 jcpham yes :)
12:41 jcpham there's like 20k USD in that screenshot
12:42 mircea_popescu haha cool
12:43 mircea_popescu btw, you win https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192206.msg1991060#msg1991060
12:43 mircea_popescu go draw your dongs nao
12:47 truffles kakobrekla didnt know u -otc'ed also
12:48 kakobrekla O_o
12:48 truffles oh u left..
12:49 kakobrekla i go in that shithole to auth only
12:49 kakobrekla cause the script does it for me
12:49 kakobrekla and im too lazy to change it to some other chan
12:50 kakobrekla mircea_popescu that bus thingy... i like
12:50 truffles some shit in here as there
12:50 kakobrekla truffles not my fault
12:50 Technologov any quality shares, that looks like a real thing ?
12:50 thestringpuller nope
12:50 thestringpuller not even mpoe is real
12:51 thestringpuller MPOE as tiberiusiv says is a scam too
12:51 truffles i can point to ppl to blame kakobrekla
12:51 thestringpuller so leave your money with the FED
12:51 Technologov (only one seems real is ASICminer, but IMO too expensive)
12:51 mircea_popescu kakobrekla you know you can auth here now
12:52 kakobrekla ya
12:52 kakobrekla the script doesnt though
12:53 ThickAsThieves <Technologov> (only one seems real is ASICminer, but IMO too expensive) <--- I am opening a fractional version of ASICMINER shares, pm for link
12:53 Technologov "fractional version" ?
12:53 Technologov i.e. divided into smaller units ?
12:53 ThickAsThieves shares will be split 1/100
12:53 Technologov This won't make them any cheaper ^^ Only smaller...
12:53 ThickAsThieves maybe so
12:54 Technologov The problem is market cap of $65 mil, which I'm not ready to pay
12:54 Technologov and by dividing further it will not suddenly make them any cheaper
12:54 ThickAsThieves you probly aren't ready to pay for any crypto stock worth buying then
12:54 mircea_popescu well i don't imagine anyone outside of mpex has any shorting capabilities still,
12:54 mircea_popescu as i was trying to short them last month with no success.
12:54 mircea_popescu so i guess you're stuck.
12:54 Technologov I'm evaluating options.
12:55 Technologov I may reject 100 companies before I accept 1.
12:55 mircea_popescu good strategy.
12:55 ThickAsThieves it'll end up boiling down to 4
12:55 mircea_popescu a better idea would be to start a blog and publish your analysus there
12:55 ThickAsThieves MPOE, AM, SDICE, BBET
12:55 mircea_popescu this way community benefits from your work and you benefit from any comments etc
12:56 ThickAsThieves AM has highest divs, MPOE has deepest liquidity, SDICE is in between, BBET is possible longer term bet
12:56 Technologov ASICminer rejected on market cap basis. (but not on quality)
12:57 ThickAsThieves all of them will likely fail that metric with you
12:57 ThickAsThieves there are also some decent bonds
12:57 ThickAsThieves one is run by Namworld, the other Deprived
12:59 mircea_popescu ya trhis is a point.
13:00 BTCOxygen ;;voiceme
13:00 gribble Error: You already have voice in #bitcoin-otc.
13:01 truffles <ThickAsThieves> one is run by Namworld, the other Deprived>> is that a zing
13:01 ThickAsThieves no, why?
13:01 ThickAsThieves did i miss someone?
13:02 truffles no just wondering if they werent up for the job
13:02 ThickAsThieves no they both run their bonds like champs
13:02 truffles ok
13:03 ThickAsThieves Deprived's has better payout
13:03 ThickAsThieves but is in LTC
13:03 ThickAsThieves but stil denominated in BTC
13:03 ThickAsThieves Nam's pays daily
13:04 ThickAsThieves so compunded interest is easier if reinvesting
13:04 ThickAsThieves compounded*
13:04 ThickAsThieves well not easier, but more compounded
13:04 ThickAsThieves :)
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [-]
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21803 BTC [-]
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.21802 = 8.5261 BTC [-]
13:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.21802 = 2.436 BTC [-]
13:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.218 = 3.654 BTC [-]
13:06 Technologov MPOE = MPEX ?
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 91 @ 0.0031 = 0.2821 BTC [-]
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.003021 = 0.3021 BTC [-]
13:07 joecool Technologov: MPOE = mircea's popsicle empire
13:07 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 66 @ 0.003021 = 0.1994 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.003011 = 0.3011 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.003001 = 0.015 BTC [-]
13:08 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [-]
13:08 mircea_popescu ono, the jig ?
13:08 Technologov Are there any mining shares, like ASIC miner? (but cheaper?)
13:08 ThickAsThieves is ^
13:09 ThickAsThieves there are many mining operations
13:09 ThickAsThieves all are much more risky than AM
13:09 ThickAsThieves usually losing propositions
13:09 ThickAsThieves because mining diff is going up up up
13:09 ThickAsThieves and liquidity goes down down down
13:10 mircea_popescu the notion of investing by cheapness is usually self defeating.
13:10 Technologov The notion of ASICminer share prices makes no sense whatsoever.
13:10 Technologov $65,000,000 (dollars worth) / 8076. (GH/s) = $8048 per GH/s.
13:10 Technologov This is their price. A bit extreme, don't you think ?
13:10 ThickAsThieves they are at about 10,5000
13:11 mircea_popescu i mean, don't like netflix cause it's too expensive ? try gtrl. http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gtrl-or-gtfo/
13:11 ThickAsThieves 10,500*
13:11 ThickAsThieves and will be at 15k in a few days
13:11 mircea_popescu Technologov as i said i have been looking to short them months ago.
13:11 ThickAsThieves is an ipad worth $600?
13:11 ThickAsThieves yet people buy
13:11 mircea_popescu the theory is that they have more product in the pipeline etc.
13:11 mircea_popescu their auction to sell blades yielded what, 1.5k for 50 chips
13:12 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1500 * 130 / 50 / 10
13:12 gribble 390
13:12 mircea_popescu $390 per gh
13:12 Technologov mircea_popescu, but only if you have Bitcoin as hedge (not with dollar LOL)
13:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
13:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24999 BTC [+]
13:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]
13:12 ThickAsThieves techno, you also have to factor liquidity
13:13 ThickAsThieves its a big factor
13:13 ThickAsThieves something can make sense today
13:13 mircea_popescu kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192122.msg1995961#msg1995961
13:13 mircea_popescu wonder if that goes to 500 pages.
13:13 ThickAsThieves fall in price and lock you in tomorrow
13:13 kakobrekla hardly cause the bitch keeps deleting my trollings
13:13 Technologov think i.e. you can't buy or sell ?
13:13 kakobrekla like that fuckin conversion table wasnt good enough?
13:14 Technologov or just big spread?
13:14 ThickAsThieves shallow bid orderbook
13:14 kakobrekla i spet like serious amounts of seconds on that
13:14 kakobrekla oh
13:14 kakobrekla shit
13:14 kakobrekla wrong thread
13:14 mircea_popescu lol which were you thinking
13:14 kakobrekla i thought you linked reptil dude
13:14 mircea_popescu o
13:14 kakobrekla my bad
13:15 kakobrekla shot first ask later.
13:15 mircea_popescu conversion table got deleted ?!
13:15 kakobrekla yes
13:15 mircea_popescu asshat.
13:15 kakobrekla :(
13:15 mircea_popescu was pretty good i thought.
13:15 kakobrekla well twas useful for me
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.47939789 = 1.9176 BTC [+]
13:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.479 BTC [-]
13:19 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192434.msg1993540#msg1993540
13:20 mircea_popescu lol
13:26 jcpham that dude deleted both of my posts from his diary
13:27 jcpham sector 8 sublevel 9 meganodes not alowed
13:30 mircea_popescu aww
13:30 kakobrekla yes yes
13:30 kakobrekla we were all de-leeted
13:30 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192434.msg1996135#msg1996135 gotta love de butthurt
13:31 mircea_popescu kakobrekla if you feel like more epic trolling, start a thread, post your stuff, mpoe-pr etc.
13:31 mircea_popescu thread battle.
13:31 mircea_popescu on the other hand, shouldn't you be busy doing stuff!
13:32 kakobrekla myea, this forum is un-doing
13:46 error4733 ;;ticker
13:46 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.50000, Best ask: 122.51000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 122.51000, 24 hour volume: 100036.15054850, 24 hour low: 122.28200, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 131.69547
13:47 thestringpuller Oh wow
13:47 error4733 ;;bids 120
13:47 gribble There are currently 9594.3663 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 1159798.60505 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0068 seconds
13:47 Bugpowder looking pretty nasty. http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png
13:48 Bugpowder I just picked up a bunch.
13:48 ThickAsThieves me too
13:48 ThickAsThieves a lil worried its not done though
13:48 error4733 sold yesterday
13:49 error4733 first time ever i see something in all those chart
14:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.25 = 10 BTC [+]
14:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.264 BTC [+]
14:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.264999 = 3.795 BTC [+]
14:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.265 = 3.795 BTC [+]
14:07 inhies hrm
14:07 inhies was there any discussion on http://bitbet.us/bet/337/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-may-1st/
14:07 inhies since the outcome is no
14:11 inhies_ blah
14:11 inhies_ did i miss any resposnes? :-/
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.32999999 = 0.99 BTC [+]
14:12 ThickAsThieves no
14:12 ThickAsThieves theres no discussion either
14:12 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/internet-story/
14:12 mircea_popescu for total lulz.
14:12 ThickAsThieves bet results are privately decided by mods
14:12 jcpham JUST TWO MOAR WEEKS!!!!!!
14:13 ThickAsThieves not likely theyll be justifying themselves in forums
14:14 mircea_popescu inhies_ there's a forum thread
14:14 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192122.msg1995961#msg1995961
14:15 ThickAsThieves nice links
14:16 ThickAsThieves will camgirl be starting a fund
14:17 inhies_ mircea_popescu: thanks
14:18 jcpham i'm taking the action in the money mayweather match
14:19 mircea_popescu lol
14:19 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves in romanian fund is how you say butt.
14:19 inhies_ lol
14:19 inhies_ nice blog post
14:20 mircea_popescu i hope it will collect good qty of butthurt and drama to prop btc with
14:25 jcpham i've got people taking odds on mayweather in skype
14:25 jcpham http://bitbet.us/bet/396/floyd-mayweather-will-win-his-boxing-match-against/
14:25 jcpham step up and get your money taken
14:26 mircea_popescu jcpham use your referal dawg
14:26 jcpham what's that
14:26 jcpham nah i don't like doing that
14:26 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
14:27 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.98095, Best ask: 120.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01905, Last trade: 120.00000, 24 hour volume: 106062.78660435, 24 hour low: 120.10000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 130.56934
14:27 error4733 !bids 0
14:27 error4733 ;;bids 0
14:27 gribble There are currently 1.8694388e+08 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16736350.5685 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.9164 seconds
14:27 error4733 $23M last week :/
14:27 ThickAsThieves ;;bids 1
14:27 gribble There are currently 589534.58 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 16621516.048 USD in total. | Data vintage: 43.1612 seconds
14:28 ThickAsThieves this is gonna get ugly
14:29 mircea_popescu ;;tricker
14:29 gribble Error: "tricker" is not a valid command.
14:29 mircea_popescu lies
14:29 Scrat ;;goxlag
14:29 gribble MtGox lag is 57.429796 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.115088668168 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
14:29 Scrat here we go
14:30 error4733 ;;eightball 99 today ?
14:30 gribble I doubt it very much.
14:30 pgp2 oh boy... time for some excitement!
14:32 mircea_popescu le wow.
14:32 ThickAsThieves motherfucker! I just locked myself outta gox
14:32 ThickAsThieves caps lock on
14:32 error4733 epic fail :D
14:33 Scrat get a password manager
14:33 error4733 its lock after 1 wrong try ?
14:33 ThickAsThieves 3 maybe?
14:33 Scrat ;;ticker --last
14:33 gribble 114.77854
14:34 ThickAsThieves i have mas bids up under 100 too
14:34 ThickAsThieves hopefully it doesnt crash too far...
14:34 damientrog any idea why it's going down like that?
14:35 damientrog mass selloffs?
14:35 louong I would be a buyer under 100
14:35 Bugpowder I want to pick up 2100 at the bottom
14:35 Bugpowder 100 will be tough to get thru
14:35 Bugpowder obviously
14:35 pgp2 holy crap
14:36 error4733 +100% supply -25% order, do the math
14:36 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
14:36 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.30000, Best ask: 114.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.70000, Last trade: 114.00000, 24 hour volume: 114867.53833811, 24 hour low: 113.28767, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 129.33034
14:36 ThickAsThieves lalala
14:36 thestringpuller Bugpowder 2100 at 100?
14:36 damientrog damn you laws of supply and demand
14:37 error4733 ;;goxlag
14:37 gribble Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
14:37 ThickAsThieves 108
14:37 truffles its going downnnn
14:37 kakobrekla theres your lag http://bit.ly/ZA8krl
14:38 thestringpuller ThickAsThieves: your theory was right
14:38 pgp2 back to 50
14:38 kakobrekla it was fixed
14:38 kakobrekla its sub 1h
14:38 damientrog damn it, always happens just after I transfer my fiat back to my bank account
14:38 pgp2 lol
14:38 Scrat is this like 12 day low?
14:38 thestringpuller ;;next
14:38 gribble target: 135 | updated by OneFixt at May 1 2013, 18:07 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 31 minutes and 28 seconds ago
14:38 ThickAsThieves too bad i didnt listen to my own theory
14:39 ThickAsThieves what did i say, if 108 didnt happen before thursday it wasnt gonna happen
14:39 ThickAsThieves welp it happened
14:39 thestringpuller It'll whiplash hard though
14:39 thestringpuller that's the next part of your theory
14:39 ThickAsThieves 104
14:39 thestringpuller whatever it bounces off of it's gonna bounce...hard
14:40 thestringpuller cause people like Bugpowder will start buying
14:40 thestringpuller SEE
14:40 thestringpuller I just saw it
14:40 thestringpuller 2704 @ 105
14:40 Scrat was that 2202 bugpowder?
14:40 Bugpowder I actually placed a bid at 110
14:40 Bugpowder but cancelled it before execution
14:41 thestringpuller oh God this is gonna get messy
14:42 Bugpowder Replaced the bid
14:42 ThickAsThieves at?
14:42 Bugpowder 110
14:42 Bugpowder I should not have cancelled
14:42 thestringpuller you should have gotten at 105
14:42 ThickAsThieves nice
14:42 thestringpuller you were right in your rationale
14:42 Bugpowder fucking missed it
14:42 Bugpowder FUCK
14:43 thestringpuller because you're using THE FUCKING WEBSITE
14:43 thestringpuller trying to out click bots?
14:43 thestringpuller Didn't we all learn our lesson via Diablo 2?
14:44 thestringpuller ;;ticker
14:44 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.00001, Best ask: 115.78702, Bid-ask spread: 5.78701, Last trade: 116.99900, 24 hour volume: 130746.14941506, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 126.33049
14:44 thestringpuller ;;ticker
14:45 thestringpuller this is a wicked spread...
14:45 gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.
14:45 pgp2 the days of monster spreads are but it seems...
14:45 kakobrekla lag at 120
14:46 kakobrekla change that to 150
14:46 ThickAsThieves if i were using a chromebook, i'd be playing on gox right now
14:46 ThickAsThieves no caps lock key
14:47 thestringpuller oh man that spread is closing like a mofo
14:47 kakobrekla o wonder what btc.sx says
14:48 kakobrekla hm 4$ only
14:48 mircea_popescu lol
14:48 kakobrekla damn i only have some pocket change in there
14:48 kakobrekla a few dessert spoons if you will
14:50 thestringpuller that's some wicked whiplash
14:50 benkay ;;ticker
14:50 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.50000, Best ask: 113.53478, Bid-ask spread: 1.03478, Last trade: 113.53478, 24 hour volume: 132756.85538487, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 125.65024
14:50 kakobrekla first pullback in lag
14:50 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
14:50 gribble 126.54
14:51 benkay ;;goxlag
14:51 gribble Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
14:51 benkay ahahahahaha
14:51 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.1 = 3 BTC [-]
14:51 benkay what's the mpex python client called?
14:51 error4733 ;;bids 0
14:51 gribble There are currently 26774400 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 14729685.3373 USD in total. | Data vintage: 60.9113 seconds
14:51 benkay nvm
14:52 ThickAsThieves btw
14:52 ThickAsThieves this was my prediction
14:52 ThickAsThieves http://i.imgur.com/8yshAXK.jpg
14:52 ThickAsThieves create 4/27
14:52 benkay what is m2?
14:52 ThickAsThieves created
14:53 benkay ThickAsThieves what is m2?
14:53 damientrog magic number 2
14:53 thestringpuller ThickAsThieves: where are we now?
14:53 error4733 H2
14:53 ThickAsThieves we're in the H2 valley
14:54 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140654
14:54 mircea_popescu so this guy is actually trying to dig himself out of the hoel ?
14:55 ThickAsThieves benkay, M@ corresponded to M1
14:55 ThickAsThieves M2* not M@
14:55 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what did he do?
14:55 mircea_popescu you know the pirate bet
14:55 ThickAsThieves the chart shows how we're in a compressed recreation of the most recent bubble
14:55 thestringpuller that he would pay?
14:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.274 BTC [+]
14:55 thestringpuller I think this is before my time
14:55 thestringpuller !ticker H HIM
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.79000000 / 1.84053889 / 1.85010000 (18 shares, 33.12970000 BTC), 7D: 1.46040000 / 1.84566645 / 1.96000000 (158 shares, 291.61529974 BTC), 30D: 0.75000001 / 1.6547747 / 2.05990000 (737 shares, 1219.56895360 BTC)
14:56 ThickAsThieves meta oscillation or such
14:56 benkay ThickAsTHieves I totally didn't read the labels on the graph. hungover.
14:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2749 = 2.5498 BTC [+]
14:56 damientrog pirate is the guy who pulled the ponzi scheme right?
14:57 damientrog also before my time
14:57 mircea_popescu yeah.
14:57 mircea_popescu this guy made an open offer bet to anyyone on the forum that pirate pays out
14:57 mircea_popescu he ended up with 10's of k's of btc bet (at the time price was under 10)
14:57 mircea_popescu so he just made a post saying "i give x 48957349859 btc" etc.
14:58 mircea_popescu supposedly it was a joke, ppl were pretty pissed.
14:58 damientrog ooh a meta-scam
14:58 damientrog lovely
14:58 mircea_popescu sorta kinda
14:59 benkay remind me again why I bother pursuing legal remuneration for things?
14:59 benkay people are so dumb.
14:59 pgp2 i dont understand - how were people financial hurt?
14:59 thestringpuller probably hedging it as insurance?
14:59 pgp2 ah
14:59 mircea_popescu pgp2 well supposedly some used it as a hedge on pirate.
15:00 mircea_popescu but genberally at the time situation was very tense.
15:00 mircea_popescu incidentally rthe original "mpoe-pr is bad pr" and/or "mp is evil" started because the girl called the entire thing a scam last april
15:00 mircea_popescu or was it march
15:00 damientrog Bitcoin history is better than any movie
15:00 mircea_popescu this at the time was serious cognitive dissonance, as pretty much everyone was on the bandwagon
15:01 mircea_popescu so people were truely furious when the thing did in fact keel
15:01 pgp2 i see
15:01 mircea_popescu as in "i can't believe i've been this stupid and it totally can't be my fault"
15:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4950 @ 0.00307414 = 15.217 BTC [-]
15:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.003 = 15 BTC [-]
15:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00290011 = 2.9001 BTC [-]
15:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00290001 = 2.9 BTC [-]
15:02 pgp2 how many BTC did pirate make off with?
15:02 damientrog no SDICE, up you must go!
15:02 mircea_popescu pgp2 at most half a mil
15:02 mircea_popescu tho that's really the upper bound of outstanding obligations
15:02 benkay have those been spent yet?
15:03 mircea_popescu he probably sold most of his loot at around 7 usd per
15:03 mircea_popescu and that means about 100k or so i'd guess (dollars)
15:03 benkay "probably"? can't we verify this?
15:03 mircea_popescu nope.
15:04 pgp2 put it through a mixer, i presume..
15:04 benkay we can verify that it hit a mixer.
15:04 jcpham i can give you an address
15:04 mircea_popescu he had the original miner haspower exchange thing
15:04 damientrog MP, how long have you been into BTC now? Since 2011 or earlier?
15:04 jcpham if you want to see what mixing loooks like
15:04 mircea_popescu pretty much for the purpose of buying newly minted coins
15:04 jcpham under the pirate ship
15:04 mircea_popescu because in btc you can't really run a ponzi
15:04 mircea_popescu as if you pay investors with investor money this is obvious in the bliockchain
15:04 jcpham yes, yes it is
15:04 mircea_popescu damientrog july 2011
15:05 pgp2 hmmm
15:05 damientrog nice, that's quick to establish the exchange
15:06 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.msg854918#msg854918
15:06 mircea_popescu that's, if you're curious, how the entire kraken meme got started.
15:06 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [+]
15:08 jcpham 1AsKbn1xD5QieiS6dpaC6kKmg3EjW22qup
15:08 jcpham http://blockchain.info/tx/20899fd84a52b3d8862c50c9e145e8b443157bf9f770be04de6fed214337784a
15:09 jcpham has ponzi written all over it
15:09 benkay does anyone have a moment to debug jurov's mpex client with me?
15:09 benkay or, more likely, debug my setup for running it?
15:10 damientrog what language is it written in?
15:10 mircea_popescu jcpham also from belgium, so child porn
15:11 damientrog you prejudiced gypsy
15:11 damientrog :)
15:12 mircea_popescu jesus fuck these people.
15:12 mircea_popescu "yes we advertise. no we only do banners. here's our media kit"
15:12 benkay python, damientrog
15:12 mircea_popescu "media kit" is this $40 CPM bullshit.
15:13 damientrog hmm that's been many years ago for me
15:13 mircea_popescu as if i am EVER paying 4 cents per page refresh, what am i, bernanke ?
15:13 damientrog by debugging, you mean bug fixing?
15:14 ThickAsThieves just use google adwords
15:14 pgp2 ;;goxlag
15:14 damientrog always willing to take a look
15:14 gribble Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.
15:17 jurov just came in. looks like python3-related problem (isn't supported yet)
15:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.275 BTC [+]
15:26 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
15:26 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.01000, Best ask: 116.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.99000, Last trade: 114.01000, 24 hour volume: 145094.43438432, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 124.34100
15:27 ThickAsThieves $avg
15:27 mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 124.39
15:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+]
15:29 benkay damientrog it was a python 3 thing
15:29 taub http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2012/04/Bryan%20YES%20Article%20IMAGE.jpg bitcoin crashing
15:29 benkay idiots are all "USE ALL THE PYTHON 3 PACKAGES BY DEFAULT ALL THE TIME WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR NOT EVEN OLD DEPENDENCIES"
15:29 benkay excuse me.
15:30 jurov ThickAsThieves, will you also offer options on TAT.ASICMINER in any significant quantity?
15:30 damientrog well that always sucks when it's such a low level problem
15:30 jurov there's very serious interest in them. or in shorting.
15:31 ThickAsThieves anyone that owns shares/btc can write options
15:31 benkay one can write options on the assets on the exchange?
15:31 benkay whoa.
15:31 jurov benkay, both bf and btct has this
15:31 ThickAsThieves I do have intentions of starting an options-oriented fund after these assets are off the ground
15:32 jurov but usually no one is market making yet
15:32 ThickAsThieves which will likely involve playing on all exchanges that offer options features
15:32 ThickAsThieves including writing and buying
15:32 ThickAsThieves so maybe that can be your market maker
15:33 ThickAsThieves of course itd be tricky to get involved in too many assets
15:33 ThickAsThieves so might just be USD/BTC to start
15:33 jurov no just do asicminer and do it right
15:34 mircea_popescu he prolly has a point.
15:34 mircea_popescu focus is valuable
15:34 jurov usd/btc is quite risky, as we all know :)
15:34 ThickAsThieves indeed
15:35 ThickAsThieves maybe if i end up with piles of AM shares i'll consider it
15:35 ThickAsThieves one thing at a time for now tho
15:36 benkay would someone remind me of the calculation of the breakeven point for puts and calls?
15:37 jurov benkay https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/call-option-calculation/msg2445/#msg2445
15:37 jurov ;;slap deadweasel
15:37 benkay thanks jurov
15:37 ThickAsThieves benkay
15:37 ThickAsThieves also, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157232.0
15:38 jurov ^that weasely dude was hired to write a manual... a month ago or so
15:38 ThickAsThieves note that google updates are unpredictable
15:38 ThickAsThieves so you need to make a copy of the doc
15:38 ThickAsThieves to instigate an update
15:38 jurov i think we can consider this position vacant
15:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.275 = 8.925 BTC [+]
15:39 benkay lol braw clip
15:41 tk993 Wow, those options are pricing in massive moves. Are you able to sell them like normal options or just buy them?
15:41 tk993 and by sell I mean write.
15:41 deadweasel jurov, i'll send you what i have
15:41 deadweasel but I just don't care enought to finish
15:41 jurov how so?
15:43 jurov bitcoiners are so incredibly lazy :/
15:43 benkay what's the status of the thing?
15:44 deadweasel i have full time job, plus full time lady friend, plus full time martial arts training and instructing... i can barely keep up with bitcoin as is
15:44 truffles full time martial arts training and instructing...>>> i want
15:45 deadweasel come get
15:45 jurov don't believe him... sprained his wrist from fapping actually
15:45 truffles would if i could
15:45 jurov :D
15:45 deadweasel ^ martial art fapping is intense!
15:45 benkay is there a word for the spread between options breakeven?
15:45 truffles haha
15:46 deadweasel benkay, I call that the great divide
15:46 deadweasel but it's colloquial to me
15:47 deadweasel what's that jurov?
15:47 deadweasel i borked my MSGS
15:47 jurov deadweasel thanks anyway
15:47 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitbet-april-2013-statement/
15:47 jurov just that
15:47 deadweasel no worries, take it from there... i was gonna make it pretty, but meh.
15:47 mircea_popescu tk993 yes you can both write and buy
15:48 jurov premature optimization, eh?
15:48 deadweasel no doubt
15:48 deadweasel went everywhere
15:49 deadweasel was gonna do examples and everything
15:49 truffles sounds very....
15:50 benkay $avg
15:50 mpexbot benkay: 124.01
15:51 deadweasel is this a possible vector of attack on mpex? = they'd buy 4000 puts then ddos and dump their btc for 24 hrs then exercise....
15:51 jurov mircea_popescu: the x axis are days in april?
15:51 jurov in bbet graph
15:51 mircea_popescu deadweasel if you sell the puts you can't exercise them
15:51 mircea_popescu jurov should be yea
15:51 mircea_popescu deadweasel o nm. yes, in theory this is possible.
15:52 deadweasel but they would have to have huge resources and motivation
15:52 jurov no, it's not unlikely something like that happened already
15:52 jurov but it's hard to pick up from all the noise
15:52 deadweasel well i saw those 4k puts bought and started wondering
15:52 mircea_popescu they were sold.
15:53 mircea_popescu that position is currently well underwater.
15:53 deadweasel awesome
15:54 jborkl long way till the end of the month, but bondholders are happy in one way -
15:54 mircea_popescu i guess that practically answers tk993 's question. yes, someone wrote 4k puts yest
15:54 jborkl 10k bitcoins to the winner
15:55 jborkl well wait, no 5000
15:55 mircea_popescu nah it's not that bad. -0.2 per or w/e
15:55 mircea_popescu and if the same person also sold the 4k calls, then .1 from there
15:56 jborkl oh , yeah I forgot about the settlement value
15:56 jborkl and the calls ofsetting
15:56 jborkl off
15:57 jcpham so a 40 dollar dip
15:57 jcpham seems nomral to me
15:57 benkay ;;ticker
15:57 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 108.30000, Best ask: 109.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 109.00000, 24 hour volume: 153906.50061501, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 123.43449
15:57 jcpham ;;ticker --high
15:57 gribble 141.90000
15:57 jcpham ;;ticker --low
15:57 gribble 104.00000
15:57 jcpham ;;calc 104/141.9
15:57 gribble 0.732910500352
15:58 jcpham so legit
15:58 benkay what are you calculating there?
15:58 jcpham how many times 141 goes into 104
15:58 benkay derpface
15:58 benkay what's the intel you glean from that?
15:58 jcpham i think it is a fraction
15:59 jcpham how do imath percents from fractions?
15:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4200 @ 0.00311776 = 13.0946 BTC [+]
15:59 benkay loss factor, then?
15:59 jcpham maybe
15:59 benkay or inverse or something
16:00 jcpham looks like 73% loss
16:00 jcpham but that can't be right
16:00 mircea_popescu 27% spread noob
16:00 jcpham those maths are no good
16:00 jurov lmao
16:00 benkay i am so wat
16:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00311776 = 0.0156 BTC [+]
16:02 jcpham hurrr
16:05 taub daily reminder that mtgox is run by amateures
16:05 taub http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.33 = 1.32 BTC [+]
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.33449996 = 1.6725 BTC [+]
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.33449997 = 3.0105 BTC [+]
16:23 upsandowns ;;ticker
16:23 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 112.24197, Best ask: 112.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45803, Last trade: 112.70000, 24 hour volume: 160741.58524685, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.75478
16:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.33449999 = 2.676 BTC [+]
16:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00069425 = 2.1522 BTC [-]
16:35 kakobrekla http://memolition.com/2013/02/02/the-best-examples-of-street-art-in-2012-48-pictures/#!prettyPhoto-1794/0/
16:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.28 = 3.84 BTC [+]
16:37 deadweasel holy crap... eat your heart out banksy!
16:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2822 BTC [+]
16:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2825 BTC [+]
16:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.29 = 9.03 BTC [+]
16:46 mod6 ;;goxlag
16:46 gribble MtGox lag is 12.167562 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0243836580132 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).
16:47 mod6 lagtastic
16:49 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C086T] 1 @ 0.47723241 BTC [+]
16:51 deadweasel http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/05/game-king/
16:51 deadweasel ;;title http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/05/game-king/
16:51 gribble Use a Software Bug to Win Video Poker? That’s a Federal Hacking Case | Threat Level | Wired.com
16:52 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25101 BTC [-]
16:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31000002 BTC [-]
16:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.31000001 = 4.03 BTC [-]
16:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 56 @ 0.31 = 17.36 BTC [-]
16:57 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C092T] 1 @ 0.44240036 BTC [-]
16:57 upsandowns ;;ticker
16:57 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.75200, Best ask: 117.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54800, Last trade: 116.75200, 24 hour volume: 165498.55399948, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.28374
16:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4573 = 2.2865 BTC [-]
17:04 benkay $avg
17:04 mpexbot benkay: 122.14
17:06 benkay ;;calc 125/160
17:06 gribble 0.78125
17:09 benkay ;;calc 125/.7
17:09 gribble 178.571428571
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33459979 BTC [+]
17:20 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.12138642 BTC [-]
17:21 upsandowns ;;ticker
17:21 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.50000, Best ask: 119.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29000, Last trade: 119.50000, 24 hour volume: 168525.01604357, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.04069
17:24 jborkl Dear jason,
17:24 jborkl Shipping of our BitForce SC ASIC miners has begun!
17:24 kakobrekla :o
17:26 assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C125T] 1 @ 0.29224174 BTC [+]
17:27 upsandowns ;;ticker
17:27 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 119.20000, Best ask: 119.41938, Bid-ask spread: 0.21938, Last trade: 119.41938, 24 hour volume: 168525.01604357, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 122.04069
17:28 deadweasel do y'all trust or use bitfinex?
17:32 deadweasel jborkl:
17:32 deadweasel Please be advised that due to the adjustments described above, we need your confirmation prior to release of your order into the final build queue and on to final delivery. It may also be a good time to review your purchase altogether relative to the bitcoin market as this is the last opportunity to do so. If your order is not confirmed, it will be canceled and your money will be refunded.
17:32 deadweasel do you still have an order jborkl ?
17:42 upsandowns ;;ticker
17:42 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 116.85655, Best ask: 118.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.14345, Last trade: 116.85655, 24 hour volume: 171832.50565117, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 121.95394
17:47 dub can anyone login to bfl?
17:47 dub I get a coudflare unavailable page
17:48 dub (fucking idiots)
17:48 dub ((ultraredundant statement))
17:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26001 BTC [+]
17:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [-]
17:56 they're a bunch of twits
17:56 seriously
17:57 ThickAsThieves i got an email from bfl asking me to confirm my order
17:58 ThickAsThieves i cancelled mos ago
17:59 kakobrekla doo it
18:00 you got refunded months ago?
18:00 sounds like you should confirm your order ;-)
18:01 dub good luck
18:01 dub The Website Is Down
18:01 damientrog just extremely slow
18:01 kakobrekla The Bitcoin Website Got Hacked?
18:01 damientrog and sometimes down
18:02 dub I just get cloudflare page
18:02 damientrog I got through a couple of times
18:02 damientrog but dumbass me forgot his password
18:02 damientrog frustrating :)
18:02 dub I never had a password
18:03 damientrog well I can't find a reference to any either, nor do any of my common passwords work
18:03 damientrog maybe another delay tactic of BFL :)
18:03 damientrog you didn't confirm your orders suckers
18:03 damientrog so no shippin
18:04 jborkl already confirmed mine
18:04 damientrog ah :)
18:05 jborkl just be really patient, it is loading but very slow
18:05 damientrog indeed
18:05 jborkl took like 2 minutes
18:05 damientrog would some asshole be DDOSing? or is cloudflare oversensitve for the high load of people trying to confirm
18:06 jborkl 5000 people hitting f5 at the same time does that
18:06 benkay what is IMMcover in the MPEx STAT response?
18:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4792 = 2.396 BTC [+]
18:07 damientrog it probably does
18:10 upsandowns ;;ticker
18:10 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 117.00000, Best ask: 117.86699, Bid-ask spread: 0.86699, Last trade: 117.86700, 24 hour volume: 174900.35834808, 24 hour low: 104.00000, 24 hour high: 141.90000, 24 hour vwap: 121.80829
18:13 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25899 BTC [+]
18:16 upsandowns is there a list of calls for gribble somewhere?
18:16 KRS-1 define asshole..not sure what or who to look for
18:28 dub look for a rusty bullet hole
18:28 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.428 = 0.856 BTC [+]
18:31 dub jborkl: where do you confirm?
18:31 assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.4999 BTC [+]
18:34 jborkl it just pops up
18:35 arij i pressed accept
18:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00069571 = 1.7045 BTC [+]
18:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00069722 = 4.0787 BTC [+]
18:37 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 189 @ 0.010098 = 1.9085 BTC [+]
18:37 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.010098 = 0.2222 BTC [+]
18:39 dub jborkl: did you get any positive feedback that acceptance worked?
18:39 jborkl order changed from pending acceptance to processing
18:40 dub thanks
18:41 jborkl sure np
18:41 damientrog guess I will just need to have some patience, resetting my password and then trying to log in is taking ages
18:41 damientrog ah my bitching helped, I managed to log in
18:44 deadweasel ;;title http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/05/01/living-on-bitcoin-for-a-week-the-journey-begins/
18:44 gribble Living On Bitcoin For A Week: The Journey Begins - Forbes
18:44 damientrog damn it, nothing pops up here to confirm
18:45 damientrog BFL sure is a test of a man's patience
18:46 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.013889 = 0.0556 BTC [-]
18:49 damientrog ah it pops up in chrome, safari didn't do it for me
18:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5551 @ 0.00069425 = 3.8538 BTC [-]
18:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9349 @ 0.00069197 = 6.4692 BTC [-]
18:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-]
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.9199 = 19.199 BTC [+]
19:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.33449999 BTC [+]
19:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28999 BTC [+]
19:14 truffles <deadweasel> it was a good read
19:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.9199 BTC [+]
19:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.92 = 3.84 BTC [+]
19:18 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.259 = 1.295 BTC [+]
19:21 deadweasel o/ high five truffles
19:24 Framedragger asciilifeform, how's Loper going? :P
19:25 asciilifeform Framedragger: slowly.
19:27 Framedragger asciilifeform: i'm genuinely glad to hear it is still on-going, godspeed mate. :)
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4201 @ 0.00069197 = 2.907 BTC [-]
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3599 @ 0.00068342 = 2.4596 BTC [-]
~ 33 minutes ~
20:03 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
~ 25 minutes ~
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.428 BTC [+]
20:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28999 BTC [+]
20:36 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.010098 = 0.0707 BTC [+]
~ 24 minutes ~
21:01 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 11 @ 0.428 = 4.708 BTC [+]
21:01 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [+]
21:03 kakobrekla kinda funny http://shrani.si/f/2i/Bo/1LDehiq7/cnc.png
21:04 kakobrekla could beat mtgox execution speed in some cases though
21:05 thestringpuller kakobrekla pm
21:14 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42101 BTC [-]
21:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.411002 = 0.822 BTC [-]
21:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.41001 = 1.23 BTC [-]
21:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]
21:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.400001 = 2 BTC [-]
21:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2899 BTC [-]
21:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
21:17 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
21:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
21:19 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.0985 = 0.197 BTC [-]
21:20 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.0985 BTC [-]
21:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [+]
21:28 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00108 BTC [-]
21:28 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00107 = 0.0107 BTC [-]
21:29 assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 189 @ 0.00107 = 0.2022 BTC [-]
~ 33 minutes ~
22:02 oh hey
22:03 asicminer is paying dividends I hear
22:13 dub I only got the fucking satoshis
22:16 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 38 @ 0.00286 = 0.1087 BTC [-]
22:18 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00285 = 0.0428 BTC [-]
22:19 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 71 @ 0.00282 = 0.2002 BTC [-]
22:19 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 12 @ 0.00281 = 0.0337 BTC [-]
22:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2899 BTC [-]
~ 53 minutes ~
23:13 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 32 @ 0.010098 = 0.3231 BTC [+]
23:15 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.010099 = 0.101 BTC [+]
~ 26 minutes ~
23:41 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 227 @ 0.003289 = 0.7466 BTC [+]
23:42 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.003322 BTC [+]
23:43 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 464 @ 0.003322 = 1.5414 BTC [+]
23:43 grubles ;;seen mircea_popsecu
23:43 gribble I have not seen mircea_popsecu.
23:43 grubles ;;seen mircea_popescu
23:43 gribble mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 43 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> 27% spread noob
23:44 grubles ;;later tell mircea_popescu hey id like to ask you some questions about my mpex account, thanks.
23:44 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:48 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0142 BTC [+]
23:49 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10478 = 0.2096 BTC [+]
23:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21493 @ 0.00068748 = 14.776 BTC [+]
23:59 taub are you a bassline junkie?
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