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00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4111 = 0.8222 BTC [+]
00:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.21000001 BTC [-]
00:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13990 @ 0.00069316 = 9.6973 BTC [-]
00:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7710 @ 0.00068557 = 5.2857 BTC [-]
00:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4111 = 0.8222 BTC [+]
00:12 pgp2 my phone just got stolen.. fuckin' blows...
00:12 mod6 :<
00:12 kakobrekla uh
00:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4111 = 1.2333 BTC [+]
00:13 kakobrekla but i dont feel so bad for trashing it last time anymore
00:22 dub lol
00:22 dub tiberiusiv vs. usagi
00:24 dub tiberiusiv way out of his depth on that one
00:27 tiberiusiv lol
00:27 usagi I thought u hated me :/
00:27 tiberiusiv usagi is scum
00:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.4421 = 6.6315 BTC [+]
00:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.44229999 = 4.423 BTC [+]
00:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.4424999 = 3.54 BTC [+]
00:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.443 = 2.215 BTC [+]
00:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.449 = 2.245 BTC [+]
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00:49 benkay ;;ticker
00:49 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.00000, Best ask: 136.26679, Bid-ask spread: 0.26679, Last trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 205306.28466866, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 141.46468
00:50 Diablo-D3 !icker
00:50 Diablo-D3 er heh
00:51 dub tiberiusiv: quote for you > i made like 50 dollars off that dice thing on blockchain today
00:51 tiberiusiv lol
00:57 benkay ;;goxlag
00:57 gribble MtGox lag is 1.415076 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00283579646002 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).
01:10 benkay is mircea_popescu around?
01:11 dub neg, sleepy|sexy tiem
01:11 orkaa :D
01:11 thestringpuller dub: no wub wub!!!!
01:11 thestringpuller STOP WITH TEH WUB WUB DUB
01:12 dub wat
01:12 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
01:12 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.52000, Best ask: 136.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.45999, Last trade: 136.52000, 24 hour volume: 207806.15950960, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 162.00000, 24 hour vwap: 141.32468
01:12 benkay watman
01:12 benkay nananananananananananana
01:12 benkay wat mat
01:12 benkay watman*
01:13 orkaa O_o
01:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.21000001 = 2.42 BTC [-]
01:15 benkay http://blog.mkasprzyk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/watman.jpg
01:15 orkaa makes sense
01:16 dub the watsign is a 3d projection of 2g1c onto a tall building
01:21 benkay *golf clap*
01:21 benkay +1 internet for you, sir.
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29989998 BTC [+]
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29989998 BTC [+]
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29989999 BTC [+]
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2999 = 1.4995 BTC [+]
01:29 ThickAsThieves random childhood flashback http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic327045_md.jpg
01:33 orkaa what's this?
01:35 ThickAsThieves they were toys
01:35 ThickAsThieves tops
01:35 ThickAsThieves they came with a little shooter
01:35 ThickAsThieves and they were all ninja themed
01:36 ThickAsThieves and there was a big arena
01:36 ThickAsThieves so you and a friend would launch your tops
01:36 ThickAsThieves to see who won
01:36 ThickAsThieves they'd bump into each other
01:36 ThickAsThieves til one stopped spinning
01:36 ThickAsThieves simple
01:36 ThickAsThieves but fun
01:38 orkaa never seen those
01:41 orkaa bah, sunrise :)
01:49 dub
01:49 dub in my day we made our own toys out of mud and sticks
01:50 dub at least until age 5 when we went to work in the mines
01:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999999 BTC [+]
01:52 orkaa i had to walk 20km to school, uphill both ways, usually in deep snow
01:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+]
01:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1002 BTC [-]
01:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1001 BTC [-]
01:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1 BTC [-]
01:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.085 BTC [-]
01:58 benkay you forgot the barbed wire sandals, orkaa
01:59 assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.198 = 1.782 BTC [-]
01:59 orkaa yeah, and wolves
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02:17 benkay is kakobrekla's socket up?
02:17 benkay i gather not.
02:20 benkay hey orkaa
02:21 orkaa m?
02:21 benkay what is the timestamp that comes off of the wire from kakobrekla's socket?
02:22 orkaa hm, not sure
02:22 orkaa probably unix time?
02:22 benkay that's what i'm thinking
02:23 benkay yup.
02:23 dub orkaa: LUXURY
02:23 benkay apologies for wasting your time on something googleable.
02:26 orkaa np
02:26 orkaa gotta go to sleep
02:36 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.01 = 0.15 BTC [+]
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02:55 benkay here's a fun piece of data
02:55 benkay by my calculations, mpex has had over 300k of BTC wagered on options alone
02:57 benkay and may have broken through 1M contracts traded total this month
02:57 benkay that latter's pretty likely, actually.
02:57 benkay i could get better numbers, but kako's socket's not responding :(
02:57 benkay and i don't feel like debugging a socket connection over code i didn't write myself tonight
~ 1 hours 55 minutes ~
04:53 jurov i supplied some data to kakobrekla and he found ISO format dates YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS+TZ unwieldy lol
05:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.15 = 2.3 BTC [+]
05:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.155 BTC [+]
05:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.16 BTC [+]
05:03 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [+]
05:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1722 = 2.3444 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1725 BTC [+]
05:11 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.1725 = 10.5525 BTC [+]
05:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1744 BTC [+]
05:18 KRS1 u know whats unweildy? epoch time...I mean..why..
05:19 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.09 = 13.08 BTC [-]
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05:51 Chaang-Noi hey all
05:53 KRS1 t'sup man
05:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 45 @ 0.482 = 21.69 BTC [+]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.482 = 2.41 BTC [+]
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.48249899 = 3.3775 BTC [+]
05:58 Chaang-Noi back from a week on the islands
05:58 Chaang-Noi yesterday had a big jump in ltc AM and btc, pretty crazy... these a crqazy ass swings to my portfolio...
05:59 Chaang-Noi id liek some stability...
06:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6174 @ 0.00070057 = 4.3253 BTC [+]
06:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7343 @ 0.00070059 = 5.1444 BTC [+]
06:07 dub bitcointalk, all is not completely lost https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187698.msg1945197#msg1945197
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06:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28000001 = 0.56 BTC [-]
06:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4824 BTC [-]
06:42 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400001 BTC [-]
06:46 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [+]
06:52 truffles massive gamble not paying that 75 dollars a year
06:53 Chaang-Noi ?
06:53 truffles in that thread about taxes
06:53 truffles http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/12/07/9272989-firefighters-let-home-burn-over-75-fee-again#comments
06:53 Chaang-Noi ahh
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07:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00068747 = 3.8155 BTC [-]
07:45 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00302 BTC [-]
07:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you'll have to one day sit down and write a full explanation as to why a. you think the us government matters at all and b. you think anyone other than you gives a shit.
07:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.7051 = 6.8204 BTC [-]
07:47 mircea_popescu but i mean, a serious, explicit, inquisitive piece like if you were writing a physics paper.
07:48 kakobrekla what is it down
07:50 thestringpuller i thought mp said "like writing a physics engine"
07:54 mircea_popescu lol
07:55 mircea_popescu it's kinda funny tho because unique among literate people americans have spent a century or maybe even two in the firm belief that their government is like... good etc. paying their taxes, trying to do what policeman says etc.
07:55 mircea_popescu this is a strictly american phenomenon, unheard of anywhere else, from france to morocco and from russia to iran
07:59 kakobrekla ;;later tell benkay is ok now
07:59 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:04 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134295962723.jpg
08:06 kakobrekla jurov i dont remember what i found it
08:06 kakobrekla but unix timestamp ftw
08:14 MJR_ what the fuck is wrong with people who make public policy?
08:15 MJR_ instead of actually just letting them pay the price that they say they would pay, we take the word for it and set a rate? how does that make any sense
08:15 MJR_ apparently the swaps market is also rigged like LIBOR
08:15 mircea_popescu duh.
08:15 MJR_ well, that is not surprising
08:16 MJR_ but i just can't believe that no one actually does anything about it
08:16 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/329/btc-network-difficulty-tops-10-million-by-end/ funny how disputed this one ended up being.
08:16 mircea_popescu somehow magically the bet submitter picked the exact spot where it'd be contentious.
08:16 MJR_ like...if i went to the supermarket, and they did a survey asking everyone there how much an orange would cost me...instead of letting us just bid on the orange or w/e
08:16 mircea_popescu but this is more democratic.
08:17 mircea_popescu and less capitalistic.
08:17 mircea_popescu both these are good things. especially for people who need beatings, know they need beatings, want to get their ass beaten raw.
08:17 MJR_ lol
08:18 MJR_ its also funny cuz they are really DP'ing everyone
08:18 MJR_ let's cheat and fix the interest rate...
08:18 MJR_ and then let's cheat and fix the price it takes to switch from variable to fixed rate
08:18 mircea_popescu then people want banks to like bitcoin
08:18 MJR_ how many other ways can you add corruption to a loan
08:19 mircea_popescu yes dude, totally. they'll love bitcoin, where they have to come to me with that nonsense and be shown the door
08:19 mircea_popescu they love this idea, pls moar.
08:19 MJR_ well..."banks" is not a great word...there are banks and then there are banks
08:19 MJR_ its not a monolithic structure...
08:20 mircea_popescu this is very true.
08:20 MJR_ but, once you are in the club, then you have no worries
08:20 mircea_popescu on the other hand, i'm already buffing my cameras and mics for that glorious moment five or maybe three years down the road
08:20 MJR_ hehehe
08:20 MJR_ gonna be fun
08:20 mircea_popescu when random anon bank ceo/vp/etc comes to bitcoin assets to start w/e project
08:20 mircea_popescu and i go are you in the wot ? gtfo.
08:21 mircea_popescu come back 1 yr.
08:21 kakobrekla hehe
08:21 kakobrekla we all dreamin.
08:21 mircea_popescu and he's gonna be all whiny and i'm gonna be all dude, we've had this interdweeb nonsense for 3 or 5 years by now.
08:21 mircea_popescu stfu and do whart you're told.
08:21 mircea_popescu and so he's going to dig up the old protest threads on btctalk and bitch about how im a gypsy racist
08:22 mircea_popescu and then our victory will have been complete.
08:22 kakobrekla lol
08:22 mircea_popescu now don't any of you trolls quote this discussion then until after i'm done making teh banker my cockpuppet.
08:22 MJR_ hehehe
08:22 MJR_ ewwww, you want a banker for a cockpuppet?
08:22 mircea_popescu metaphorically speaking.
08:22 MJR_ lol
08:22 MJR_ i know of course
08:22 mircea_popescu i have a 10 foot cock, i can stick it into banker
08:23 mircea_popescu a little
08:23 mircea_popescu at the tip
08:23 mircea_popescu speaking of bankers, anyone have any favorite burlesque performers ?
08:23 mircea_popescu i'm going to do like l'oreal etc and have a mpex image chick.
08:25 pizzaman1337 this is why I have logging turned on
08:25 MJR_ HAHAHA
08:25 kakobrekla :D
08:25 MJR_ yes
08:26 MJR_ are we going to have the website to archive all of this?
08:26 kakobrekla yep
08:26 MJR_ hmmm...what if we put everything from bitcoin-assets into the blockchain?
08:26 pizzaman1337 no, bad idea
08:26 pizzaman1337 blockchain is too big already
08:26 MJR_ how future generations will judge us...
08:26 kakobrekla i was trying to add it like yesterday or something but i got distracted
08:26 mircea_popescu in fact this chan is growing faster than the blockchain
08:26 pizzaman1337 we don't want everyone dropping their crap in the blockchain
08:27 kakobrekla irc is to blame
08:27 mircea_popescu scam.
08:27 MJR_ i think it'd be hilarious, kinda like putting up posters of miley cyrus in the smithsonian
08:27 MJR_ or doodling on the constitution
08:27 mircea_popescu MJR_ they've put seinfeld.
08:28 MJR_ lol
08:28 mircea_popescu and in fairness, the blockchain isn't as bad as either miley cyrus or doodling.
08:28 mircea_popescu we could tolerate it on our chan
08:28 MJR_ i just think that the whole idea of posterity is going away rather quickly
08:28 MJR_ we still have the illusion (some of us anyway) that the older generations were respectable
08:28 MJR_ our children will prob not have that illusion at all
08:29 kakobrekla loool
08:29 kakobrekla MJR_ is worried.
08:30 MJR_ srsly
08:30 MJR_ when your kids can google the things you tweeted as a teenager yourself...
08:30 mircea_popescu o hey, twitter delivers! >> @PaulFish This is what a CEO / founder needs to focus on. This is it. http://t.co/KopwO3Udpy
08:30 MJR_ or even worse, if they see the pics you've posted of yourself
08:30 mircea_popescu then people wonder why i have the time to irc and chase skirts.
08:31 mircea_popescu MJR_ i think all future children will have to learn to be comfortable with the fact that their mother's goodies are public record.
08:31 MJR_ yep
08:38 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny tho because unique among literate people americans have spent a century or maybe even two in the firm belief that their government is like... good etc. paying their taxes, trying to do what policeman says etc. << I would attribute that to the general populace being brainwashed into believing revolution is bad
08:38 mircea_popescu are you kidding ?
08:38 mircea_popescu it all started with revolution.
08:38 mircea_popescu pretty much the only people who believe revolution is good, other than romanians and who knows who else.
08:38 thestringpuller isn't that funny though?!?!?
08:38 mircea_popescu kinda
08:39 thestringpuller Sure we protest, and "get uppity", but in general you're taught all through childhood "do as your told", "don't question authority".
08:40 thestringpuller Maybe if everyone were more poor? Or perhaps there was truly a need to revolt? American's are very apathetic, and actually seem to "enjoy" the lethargy that arises from it.
08:40 mircea_popescu that's normal, good and common.
08:40 mircea_popescu people should do what they're told and not question authority in most cases.
08:41 thestringpuller People should not be lazy and educate themselves :P
08:41 mircea_popescu that's also
08:41 mircea_popescu but the society where people don't do what they're told and question authority a lot ends up something like france
08:41 mircea_popescu can't get a fucking train on schedule, even if the schedule lists hours only, no minutes.
08:42 thestringpuller Yea, or you get Detroit.
08:42 thestringpuller Have you ever been to Detroit?
08:43 MJR_ i've been to detroit
08:43 mircea_popescu i avoided it.
08:43 thestringpuller I think mircea_popescu would very well enjoy Detroit.
08:43 thestringpuller You may need quite a few goons, and maybe a couple of drones...
08:45 mircea_popescu you think ?
08:45 mircea_popescu why ?
08:45 thestringpuller Dude you survive in Bitcoin land which is like the virtual Detroit.
08:45 thestringpuller Not only survive but thrive off it.
08:45 thestringpuller Detroit is yours for the taking I'd think.
08:46 thestringpuller You lived through the 90's Romanian revolution no?
08:46 mircea_popescu yea...
08:46 mircea_popescu what, i'm not affraid of "bad neighbourhoods" lol.
08:47 mircea_popescu heck, i took teh coindelberg group through one here, it was funnay.
08:47 thestringpuller is that like a pun?
08:48 mircea_popescu which one ?
08:48 thestringpuller coindelberg
08:48 thestringpuller lol
08:48 mircea_popescu lol.
08:48 mircea_popescu the endlessly hacked frenchie guy came up with it
08:48 thestringpuller Aw. And you were rooting for him.
08:49 mircea_popescu myeah.
08:49 mircea_popescu he has the luck of the irishman in reverse.
08:50 thestringpuller I wonder how they keep getting in...
08:51 jurov *that* was bad neighborhood? i failed to notice. no smell, hens or pigs
08:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00069657 = 4.2491 BTC [+]
08:51 thestringpuller jurov's been to detroit?
08:51 jurov no, in bratislava
08:51 mircea_popescu jurov didja notice the gagle of 20 kids threatening to knife each other ?
08:52 jurov yes i noticed, just joking a bit
08:53 mircea_popescu was kinda funny, they were all "you ciocksucker, i bet you don't have 10 euros on you" "dude, if i do you suck my cock ???" "fuck you, show me"
08:53 mircea_popescu i was like, hey, cool, nobody here is worth less than a million or some shit like that, you people are arguing about who has ten euros.
08:54 mircea_popescu inequality ftw.
08:54 jurov srsly, we need them in -otc. complete with knives
08:56 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
08:56 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 129.98000, Best ask: 130.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 130.00000, 24 hour volume: 240970.80932549, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 159.66165, 24 hour vwap: 137.00610
08:57 kakobrekla 50 here we come!
08:57 mircea_popescu lol
08:57 thestringpuller ;;bids 125
08:57 gribble There are currently 3217.5402 bitcoins demanded at or over 125.0 USD, worth 406095.036857 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds
08:57 thestringpuller ;;asks 140
08:57 gribble There are currently 7155.5675 bitcoins offered at or under 140.0 USD, worth 974221.764505 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.8159 seconds
08:58 thestringpuller ;;bids 120
08:58 gribble There are currently 18144.077 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2216699.76409 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.3246 seconds
08:59 MJR_ lol coindelberg?
09:02 mircea_popescu totally.
09:02 truffles top of the morning MJR
09:03 jurov all hail our Lord deCrypto
09:03 jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/ (nsfw)
09:04 jurov yay "This subreddit has been slow, as have my mining operations. I thought I'd freshen it up a bit!"
09:04 mircea_popescu kinda old this neh ?
09:04 jurov old but good
09:04 truffles any penis pics on reddit?
09:05 truffles oh its there
09:06 truffles scary looking ones
09:06 MJR_ lol good morning truffles
09:06 truffles one looks like an eel omg
09:07 truffles this has go to be photo shop
09:07 truffles should i link?
09:08 truffles and its a redhead, spidey senses going off
09:11 truffles http://www.reddit.com/r/penis/comments/p7cme/not_mine_but_jesus_fuck/ top comment agrees with me
09:15 jurov trrrrrrufflesss?
09:15 truffles yes?
09:16 jurov *wink*
09:16 truffles we were getting nsfw in here so...
09:16 jurov so you had to be helpful.
09:16 MJR_ lol, have you guys heard of rebecca martinson
09:16 kakobrekla truffles your kids will see that.
09:16 truffles i like to give a helping hand
09:17 jurov i need help, too
09:17 truffles well if i had kids penis wont be a bother
09:17 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188178.0
09:17 mircea_popescu seems btc-e was actuyally hacked last week ?
09:18 Chaang-Noi and we are back on topic
09:18 mircea_popescu what, is truffles posting nudes ?
09:18 MJR_ http://gawker.com/5994974/the-most-deranged-sorority-girl-email-you-will-ever-read?popular=true
09:18 MJR_ this is why i love american colleges
09:19 mircea_popescu [UPDATE 4/25: The sorority sister who authored the email has now resigned. Click here to read the sorority's official statement.]
09:19 mircea_popescu see, this sorty of shit...
09:19 truffles ofc mp wants nudes when a sea them are on the net
09:19 mircea_popescu i would have made her chapter queen for a week, and everyone had to serve her in the nude.
09:20 truffles "Last week, bitches got told. " wow
09:21 MJR_ she is awesome
09:21 MJR_ she basically is implying that the other girls should have put out more for social status
09:21 mircea_popescu yep
09:21 mircea_popescu do you know a name or anything ?
09:21 mircea_popescu i'm inviting her over.
09:22 truffles ofc she will want to go to Romania
09:24 MJR_ rebecca martinson
09:24 MJR_ my friend sent me that, i just asked one question...is she single
09:25 mircea_popescu http://www.betcheslovethis.com/article/50-shades-of-just-okay
09:25 mircea_popescu i dojn't give a flying fuck if she;s single. and tyvm.
09:26 ThickAsThieves the email doesnt seem that controversial, i expected worse from the hype
09:27 truffles lol
09:28 truffles that letter is long tldr
09:28 MJR_ http://www.betcheslovethis.com/article/Themed-Parties
09:28 MJR_ this one is great, sororities hobos and hoes theme parties
09:28 MJR_ and people say america doesn't have a great educational system...
09:29 kakobrekla some dumb parents right there
09:33 MJR_ lol, but...skateboards?
09:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+]
09:38 MJR_ ;;ud betch
09:38 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=betch | A betch is another way of saying "Bitch" except it sounds a million times better and makes you feel cool!
09:39 truffles makes me think of Beth
09:42 mircea_popescu http://www.studentorg.umd.edu/
09:42 mircea_popescu check that out lol
09:43 Scrat are college sororities/fraternities only a murcan thing? or do other western countries have them
09:44 mircea_popescu pretty much american
09:44 truffles
09:44 kakobrekla ;;bc,stats
09:45 gribble Current Blocks: 233241 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9956757.41042 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.9475
09:45 kakobrekla so close to 10mil
09:46 truffles how many millioins is your share kakobrekla
09:46 kakobrekla 21
09:46 truffles way over the stated amount
09:46 truffles baller
09:46 kakobrekla ya well its a scam!
09:47 truffles bitcoin is a scam, heard it here 1st
09:47 KRS1 lol
09:54 MJR_ ;;ud cuntpunt
09:54 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cunt-punt | if a bitch/ minion gets wise with you, you kick and or punch them in their pussy. gets em everytime. If you talk back to me one more time, ill give ya a cunt punt, ...
09:55 truffles learning so much itc
09:57 truffles MJR_ which minion is getting out of line?
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10:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 309 @ 0.00278789 = 0.8615 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.28000001 = 0.56 BTC [-]
10:20 mircea_popescu "And how do you know that none of the content was written by people behind it? (And even if it was not written, it was perfectly collected together.)The organization is 100% anonymous with bitcoin early developers and great programmers behind it. Satoshi Nakamoto, before he vanished, in the last interview in April said that he had "moved on to other things," how do you know that GBBG and their software is not that oth
10:20 mircea_popescu er thing."
10:20 mircea_popescu comedy gold.
10:23 pgp2 mp: what is that in reference to?
10:24 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154089.msg1949434#msg1949434
10:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4754 @ 0.00069657 = 3.3115 BTC [+]
10:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15996 @ 0.00069481 = 11.1142 BTC [-]
10:36 ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1950787#msg1950787 friedcat update
10:40 Chaang-Noi thanks
10:40 Chaang-Noi doubling in a week is pretty good
10:40 Chaang-Noi wish it was more however
10:42 Chaang-Noi 138 again on btc, fucking all over the place
10:42 Chaang-Noi 120 to 166 range is nuts...
10:42 Chaang-Noi ;;bids 120
10:42 gribble There are currently 22399.07 bitcoins demanded at or over 120.0 USD, worth 2772336.48921 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0060 seconds
10:42 Chaang-Noi ;;asks 166
10:42 gribble There are currently 33114.795 bitcoins offered at or under 166.0 USD, worth 5071504.2059 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3661 seconds
10:43 Chaang-Noi hmm
10:43 Chaang-Noi ;;bids 0
10:43 gribble There are currently 33503993 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19202524.8757 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.8066 seconds
10:43 Chaang-Noi down a bit...
10:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00070059 = 6.7607 BTC [+]
10:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00278789 = 2.7879 BTC [-]
10:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.28 = 2.8 BTC [-]
10:54 error4733 ;;next
10:54 gribble \*AWAY UNTIL April 28\* resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 4 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes, and 28 seconds ago
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11:16 Cylta where I can read more about what exactly mean for example O.USD.C152N?
11:17 ThickAsThieves oddly i dont think there is a good description faq for mpex options on the mpex website
11:17 ThickAsThieves but i know full explanations exists in the forums
11:18 mircea_popescu Cylta call struck at 152 expiring next month
11:20 error4733 MP blog no ? for a good description
11:26 mircea_popescu error4733 i thought they're explained to death everywhere, forum, blog etc.
11:27 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1629 BTC [+]
11:28 assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00303 BTC [+]
11:28 error4733 yes but not on MPEX #irony
11:30 mircea_popescu lol
11:32 KRS-1 Very funny mircea popescu..Can I have my anal room back please
11:32 KRS-1 why would you want bitcoin anal
11:32 KRS-1 I'm not trying to be an ass
11:33 KRS-1 Thats ok..I'll get it in the end
11:33 truffles #bitcoin-anal exists heh
11:33 mircea_popescu wait what ?!
11:33 KRS-1 Says you registered my anal chat
11:34 KRS-1 Can I have my anal chat room back pls
11:34 truffles i like that prank lol
11:34 KRS-1 lol
11:34 mircea_popescu i have ?!
11:34 KRS-1 [Notice] -ChanServ- #bitcoin-anal is already registered to mircea_popescu.
11:34 truffles rofl
11:34 KRS-1 Isnt anything sacred anymore
11:34 pgp2 lol
11:34 mircea_popescu whoa
11:34 mircea_popescu kickass.
11:35 truffles he really likes ass
11:36 KRS-1 haha its a nice channel though
11:36 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.163 = 2.326 BTC [+]
11:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.1638 = 8.1466 BTC [+]
11:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1635 BTC [-]
11:40 MJR_ you jacked #bitcoin-anal??
11:40 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+]
11:42 Cylta If I understand correctly, asset "O.USD.C086T" is a call option from price of 86 usd per btc that will expire this month. Why people sell it, if price is already significally higher? and for what amount is this option?
11:43 ThickAsThieves Cylta, you need to wait until new options are created tonight/tomorrow
11:43 ThickAsThieves current prices are "glitched"
11:43 ThickAsThieves (not actually quoting anyone)
11:43 mircea_popescu Cylta you understand how options work, do you ?
11:44 ThickAsThieves he was looking for a full guide earlier
11:44 ThickAsThieves i dont have the link saved tho
11:44 ThickAsThieves you should post that shit at mpex.com
11:45 ThickAsThieves .co*
11:45 Cylta mircea_popescu: I did not expect, that you can buy\sell options with different price than current price. that's looks strange for me.
11:46 error4733 http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-btc-usd-options-denomination-change/
11:46 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+]
11:47 error4733 http://daytrading.about.com/od/daytradingglossary/g/OptionsCallPut.htm
11:47 Cylta error4733: thanks!
11:48 ThickAsThieves neither of those links will help you enough
11:48 mircea_popescu Cylta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67302.0
11:48 error4733 the price is not different, it's a like a bet !
11:48 mircea_popescu prolly should start there.
11:48 ThickAsThieves thats the good one!
11:49 ThickAsThieves would you consider adding that link to the mpex faq?
11:50 mircea_popescu well the idea kinda is that the mpex faq is about mpex, and people should be learning about options other places.
11:50 deadweasel $acg
11:50 deadweasel $avg
11:50 mpexbot deadweasel: 135.85
11:51 deadweasel crap. hey mp, does the bot come online to buy back my calls at a fraction of the price I bought them for?
11:52 ThickAsThieves asking mp for something = always asking too much
11:52 deadweasel answers are usually rec'd.
11:52 deadweasel which is something.
11:52 ThickAsThieves "for"
11:52 ThickAsThieves he will speak to you, just not act for you
11:53 deadweasel we'll see.
11:53 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1637 BTC [+]
11:53 deadweasel all i want is an answer
11:53 deadweasel unless you want to buy some calls at 215 ThickAsThieves ! :
11:53 deadweasel :D
11:54 ThickAsThieves already burdened with Put at 89
11:54 ThickAsThieves Puts*
11:54 deadweasel ouchie, should exercised them demons... i did the avg ever come down that far?
11:54 ThickAsThieves and calls the mysteriously excercised at 0
11:54 deadweasel or was the 50 bounce too quick?
11:54 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000641 = 0.0962 BTC [-]
11:54 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00064 = 0.064 BTC [-]
11:55 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00983 = 0.0492 BTC [-]
11:55 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00983 BTC [-]
11:55 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.00982 = 0.0786 BTC [-]
11:55 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 9 @ 0.000639 = 0.0058 BTC [-]
11:55 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.00981 = 0.1472 BTC [-]
11:55 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000635 = 0.0191 BTC [-]
11:56 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.000631 = 0.0063 BTC [-]
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 30 @ 0.00281 = 0.0843 BTC [+]
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00281 BTC [+]
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 97 @ 0.0028 = 0.2716 BTC [-]
11:57 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0028 BTC [-]
11:57 ThickAsThieves my MPOE PT shares seem to be being held hostage by DeadTerra, who is disinclined to trasnfer them to Jurov for me.
11:58 deadweasel lol, i sold EVERYTHING. I don't want to hold of any of that crap right now.
11:58 jurov did he said as much? or is he just silent?
11:58 ThickAsThieves silent
11:58 ThickAsThieves after several messages
11:58 ThickAsThieves and sign-ons by him
11:58 ThickAsThieves in forum
11:59 ThickAsThieves maybe he's busy playing Starcraft or sumth
11:59 kakobrekla i wouldnt trust a guy who plays xbox
12:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.1638 = 3.4914 BTC [+]
12:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1649 BTC [+]
12:00 ThickAsThieves AM is gonna rally again
12:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.165 = 11.65 BTC [+]
12:00 ThickAsThieves friedcat confirmed 15TH will be online within a week
12:01 mircea_popescu ok so who wants to or knows anyone wanting to model tits for a new project of mine ?
12:02 ThickAsThieves MPOE-PR seems to be equipped
12:02 mircea_popescu im trying to spread bitcoin incomes to poor girls.
12:03 mircea_popescu she ain't poor.
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.01629 = 0.4887 BTC [+]
12:03 assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000679 = 0.1019 BTC [+]
12:05 ThickAsThieves Maybe reddit wants to help
12:05 Cylta mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin ? i think many of them may help you
12:05 KRS-1 I'm a poor girls.
12:05 mircea_popescu a ty
12:05 mircea_popescu KRS-1 you female ?
12:05 KRS-1 i can be
12:06 KRS-1 how much btc we talkin here
12:06 mircea_popescu talk to goat, i don't do ladyboiz
12:06 KRS-1 lulz
12:06 KRS-1 ok i'll settle for ltc ...?
12:06 KRS-1 nmc?
12:07 Cylta KRS-1: may be xrp =)
12:07 KRS-1 whats a xrp
12:08 tiberiusiv ;;bids 50
12:08 gribble There are currently 165183.38 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14103182.0003 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0086 seconds
12:08 tiberiusiv ;;asks 200
12:08 gribble There are currently 69668.083 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 11769976.7017 USD in total. | Data vintage: 9.4491 seconds
12:08 Cylta KRS-1: premined, centrelised, low-value, with-no-future coin =)
12:08 davout mircea_popescu: you could organize orgies in romania, get bitcoins spent, and poor girls richer
12:08 mircea_popescu o look who's back
12:09 mircea_popescu i think ima organise lockable cages webhosting first, frenchie :D
12:09 kakobrekla lol
12:09 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.41 = 5.74 BTC [+]
12:09 davout mircea_popescu: where do i sign?
12:09 mircea_popescu ovh.com/suckers-apply-here
12:10 davout yeah well
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1978 BTC [+]
12:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1979 BTC [+]
12:10 mircea_popescu so how's paris ?
12:10 davout being hit by the very thing you were discussing a couple of hours ago on #bitcoin-assets OH THE IRONY
12:11 davout dirty as usual
12:11 MJR_ lol
12:11 MJR_ hi davout
12:11 davout MJR_: hello
12:11 MJR_ whats new
12:11 KRS-1 whats up MJR-
12:12 davout MJR_: well. https://bitcoin-central.net pretty much sums it all up
12:12 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1979 BTC [+]
12:13 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.198 = 14.376 BTC [+]
12:14 mircea_popescu i do think the idea to reaudit the entire thing leisurely is best.
12:14 mircea_popescu who came up with it ?
12:15 davout mircea_popescu: the idea of re-auditing ?
12:15 mircea_popescu you know, take service down, check everything, no rush
12:15 davout i did
12:15 mircea_popescu good call.
12:16 davout my intelligence is limited, but i do have enough to see when taking a step back is needed
12:16 davout :-)
12:18 mircea_popescu ;;getrating davout
12:18 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User davout, rated since Thu Jan 27 14:22:24 2011. Cumulative rating 14, from 4 total ratings. Received ratings: 4 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=davout
12:19 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188353.0 here we go
12:19 jurov replied
12:21 MJR_ lol
12:21 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.003071 = 0.0154 BTC [-]
12:21 MJR_ how much resemblance necessary?
12:21 jurov but dunno how many topless models frequent irc.. maybe usagi will volunteer?
12:21 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1950361#msg1950361
12:21 MJR_ lol yeah
12:21 kakobrekla also scroll up wtf?
12:22 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00307 = 0.0246 BTC [-]
12:22 kakobrekla who is the attention whore now
12:22 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.17603 BTC [-]
12:23 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00981 = 0.0589 BTC [-]
12:23 assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 4 @ 0.0098 = 0.0392 BTC [-]
12:23 ThickAsThieves nice pic, rivals even MP's pics
12:23 jurov My burn rate is currently about $200,000 per month if I continue at this level
12:23 jurov mpoe-pr should comment how much women if mp's burn rate
12:24 jurov *is
12:25 kakobrekla omg that thread
12:25 kakobrekla it continiues into total retarded noobishness
12:25 bitcoin_lady Hello :p
12:25 mircea_popescu heya bitcoin_lady
12:26 j0w :)
12:26 ThickAsThieves this should be fun
12:26 kakobrekla it it apropriate to say "tits or gtfo" ?
12:27 bitcoin_lady This is not /b/, faggot.
12:27 kakobrekla its a meta question, lady.
12:27 mircea_popescu haha cool.
12:27 mircea_popescu so this rpietila guy is trying to be me two years later basically ?
12:27 mircea_popescu bitcoin_lady to read your private messages click on the tab
12:28 kakobrekla mircea_popescu i think he is a liar ... saying he was 'around' first bubbl
12:28 kakobrekla e
12:28 mircea_popescu ya well.
12:28 kakobrekla dunno
12:28 mircea_popescu people love pumping themselves up for w/e reason.
12:30 kakobrekla i mean the guy sent 13 btc to some other guy
12:30 kakobrekla to prove he is rich
12:30 kakobrekla that only proves he is an idiot
12:30 mircea_popescu pretty much.
12:30 error4733 ?
12:30 error4733 i check the address on blockchain
12:30 error4733 he didnt sent
12:31 kakobrekla apparently was internal tx of easywallet
12:31 kakobrekla i mean its that or he has two accounts
12:31 kakobrekla and is self trolling
12:31 mircea_popescu lmao
12:31 kakobrekla and so incapable
12:31 mircea_popescu what idiot.
12:31 kakobrekla that he doesnt even do blockchain tx
12:31 error4733 self trolling imo
12:31 mircea_popescu somebody drop a link to mpex's public addy, see what he says
12:37 Cylta why people sell options above 1btc? looks like profit may not break the edge of 1btc per option.
12:38 Cylta at lest for calls
12:38 mircea_popescu Cylta the bot is a little crazy currently.
12:39 mircea_popescu you can sell them for whatever you want tho.
12:39 Cylta but by math, any calls that are sold for more, than 1 btc is just waiting of buyers money :P kind of math exam?
12:40 Chaang-Noi kakobrekla that guy.. wtf was he thinking?
12:40 kakobrekla he wasnt
12:40 kakobrekla and isnt
12:40 Chaang-Noi you know he has a party or gathering or something in finland?
12:40 kakobrekla and wont be
12:41 Chaang-Noi he asked me to go, and then asked for btc :/
12:41 kakobrekla omg
12:41 kakobrekla how much
12:41 Chaang-Noi i dont know, it goes up the longer i wait. but i guess there is hotel or something involved
12:41 Chaang-Noi but there are no details that i can find
12:42 Chaang-Noi im not going so i just sorta ignored it but then i saw this and was like wtf??
12:42 kakobrekla lol
12:42 kakobrekla well this is bitcoin, everyone and their sister is the biggest expert
12:42 jurov and their dog
12:43 jurov yes, this is a dog.
12:44 Chaang-Noi kako i cant tell if he is some silver hot shot invester who made money in the run up and now did well in btc in the last 4 months or is just a full scammer
12:44 Chaang-Noi btw is he claiming to have 2.4k btc or 24k btc?
12:44 truffles u jelly?
12:45 kakobrekla i dont know
12:45 kakobrekla he was buying at ~100
12:45 jurov 2.4k mbtc
12:45 Chaang-Noi no i did very well in silver and then i did very well in btc/ltc and asicminer
12:45 jurov he's givind errythign in mbtc
12:45 kakobrekla yes retarded
12:45 Chaang-Noi yeah buying at over 100 is not something id brag about
12:45 truffles new money gets the stern look from everyone huh
12:45 Chaang-Noi we are not even sure if he has money or is just a troll
12:46 Chaang-Noi he tried to prove he had money by moving 13 btc and it never showed up on the block chain....
12:46 Chaang-Noi he might not have any btc
12:46 kakobrekla dunno
12:47 kakobrekla strange he is not aware that he cant sign an addy
12:47 kakobrekla i mean
12:47 kakobrekla sign something with priv key of an addy
12:48 Chaang-Noi he sent from a fucking web wallet
12:48 Troic_ perhaps his web wallet, nm says it all
12:48 kakobrekla you can sign from blockchain.info wallet
12:48 Chaang-Noi who the fuck uses a web wallet? i understand maybe the troll had one but a guy with 24k or 2.4k lol
12:49 kakobrekla o looky
12:49 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188304.0
12:49 Chaang-Noi what is easywallet? iv never used it
12:49 kakobrekla it must have rained recently
12:49 kakobrekla "its time to make a change" cause you defo wont be "making a bank"
12:50 truffles new channel for me
12:51 truffles so many people in here
12:51 truffles its buzzin
12:52 deadweasel http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425
12:52 truffles slow pony?
12:53 truffles hi
12:53 deadweasel howdy truf
12:53 truffles are your panties in a bunch about new money too?
12:54 Chaang-Noi what happened to tiberslav?
12:54 deadweasel i was just impressed that rolling stone changed their position. my panties are in the laundry.
12:54 truffles chaang he's in -offtopic
12:54 deadweasel he's nowhere with /ignore!
12:55 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=187469.0
12:55 kakobrekla yes
12:55 truffles ignore is for pussies
12:55 kakobrekla i think they are that retarded.
12:55 truffles toughen up
12:57 Chaang-Noi 1 btc = 1000 nBTC?
12:57 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.198 = 2.396 BTC [+]
12:57 Chaang-Noi mBTC?
12:57 Cylta Chaang-Noi: mBTC
12:58 Cylta Chaang-Noi: 1 btc = 1 000 000 nBTC
12:58 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.198 = 3.594 BTC [+]
12:58 mircea_popescu you know he has a party or gathering or something in finland? <<< Ahahahah
12:58 Cylta oh, no.. 1 btc = 1 000 mBTC = 1 000 000 uBTC = 1 000 000 000 nBTC
12:58 Chaang-Noi mp did you not get the invite?
12:58 mircea_popescu dude this is so ridiculous
12:58 Chaang-Noi its like in 2 weeks as well
12:58 ThickAsThieves i am fond of the ignore function
12:59 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.400001 = 1.2 BTC [-]
12:59 mircea_popescu so did he hear about my thing and is trying to copy retardedly
12:59 mircea_popescu or just natural retard ?
12:59 assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.3 BTC [-]
12:59 Chaang-Noi i want to post in public is pm to me but i dont want to violate privacy issues
13:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.198 = 3.594 BTC [+]
13:00 truffles good call
13:01 mircea_popescu kinda worth it for the lulz,
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 44 @ 0.00307 = 0.1351 BTC [-]
13:01 mircea_popescu kinda not worth it dfor the drama
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 98 @ 0.00306 = 0.2999 BTC [-]
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 570 @ 0.00306 = 1.7442 BTC [-]
13:01 Chaang-Noi he said he was going to make it public somewhere
13:01 assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 130 @ 0.00301 = 0.3913 BTC [-]
13:01 Chaang-Noi but i never saw that
13:01 ThickAsThieves sharing pms violates privacy issues?
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4244 = 2.5464 BTC [-]
13:02 ThickAsThieves violates trust only, i thought
13:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.1999 = 2.3998 BTC [+]
13:02 Chaang-Noi it is a personal invite to his party, i dont think i should share it word for word
13:02 Chaang-Noi fine its a trust issue,
13:02 ThickAsThieves oh i get it
13:02 ThickAsThieves like it has personal info in it
13:02 Chaang-Noi it has info he said he would make public
13:03 Chaang-Noi but i dont know where or if he has
13:04 truffles post the stuff he said he would make public
13:04 truffles with him saying so
13:04 Chaang-Noi hey kako that thread is self moderated
13:04 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/xQE0Tgsl.jpg
13:04 Chaang-Noi he is going to get rid of all of that
13:04 mircea_popescu ajhahaha dude bought a $5 ad in an ad paper
13:04 mircea_popescu bwahahaha
13:04 mircea_popescu dude never has so much been attempted with so little.
13:05 Girlfawkesy I understand MP was looking for me?
13:05 Chaang-Noi its a scam mp?
13:05 Girlfawkesy I dunno, I got a message on reddit
13:05 Girlfawkesy not much info was given, and I was curious
13:06 mircea_popescu Girlfawkesy hey there.
13:06 jcpham what is #bitcoin-assets?
13:06 jcpham bitcoin-asshats?
13:06 imsaguy gypsy bazaar
13:06 Troic_ its a virtual lobby for mp ?
13:06 Cylta jcpham: temple of mircea_popescu =)
13:06 truffles recruitment grounds
13:06 Technologov__ what is traded on this bazaar ?
13:06 mircea_popescu imsaguy is alive ?!
13:06 kakobrekla slaves
13:06 jcpham mp has a following?
13:06 Chaang-Noi tears
13:06 jcpham sadness
13:06 Scrat dreams
13:06 imsaguy mircea_popescu: I was on a trip
13:06 mircea_popescu Technologov__ its the place where bitcoin securities get discussed.
13:07 Technologov__ such as ?
13:07 Technologov__ Are there any ? ^^
13:07 jcpham these guys in otc are selling an ASIC startup
13:07 mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe
13:07 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067399 / 0.00069538 / 0.000703 (298127 shares, 207.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00064141 / 0.0006982 / 0.00073891 (2649171 shares, 1,849.67 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068714 / 0.00073891 (10288649 shares, 7,069.75 BTC)
13:07 mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice
13:07 jcpham telling people 200% returns
13:07 assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00278789 / 0.00278789 / 0.00278789 (1309 shares, 3.65 BTC), 7D: 0.0023263 / 0.00295308 / 0.00349995 (32043 shares, 94.63 BTC), 30D: 0.0012 / 0.00317689 / 0.00448 (1524631 shares, 4,843.59 BTC)
13:07 mircea_popescu !ticker m s.bbet
13:07 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00050015 / 0.00177875 / 0.00201395 (137670 shares, 244.88 BTC)
13:07 mircea_popescu etc.
13:07 jcpham i told 'em to come here!
13:07 imsaguy I think asicminer needs a passthrough on mpex
13:07 imsaguy they're everywhere else
13:07 Chaang-Noi lol
13:08 jcpham think asicminer needs to send me some blades
13:08 imsaguy better yet
13:08 jcpham so i can erupt some shit
13:08 Chaang-Noi AM does not need it, mpex might need it
13:08 imsaguy a passthrough for the passthroughs
13:08 imsaguy make a synthetic
13:08 jcpham we could proxy all the proxies
13:08 imsaguy exactly
13:08 mircea_popescu imsaguy the day they sign a contract.
13:08 Chaang-Noi AM has all the funding they need, they dont need shit
13:08 jcpham
13:08 Chaang-Noi mp, friedcat will never sign a contract
13:08 imsaguy mircea_popescu: AM needs to sign if its a passthrough?
13:09 imsaguy mircea_popescu: can you read chinese?
13:09 mircea_popescu they need to sign if its on mpex.
13:09 Chaang-Noi they wont sign
13:09 Chaang-Noi why take a risk with no gain?
13:09 imsaguy those chinese won't sign anything unless its in chinese
13:09 mircea_popescu
13:09 imsaguy stupid china
13:10 ThickAsThieves its a moot point, like Chaang says, they don't need anything
13:10 jcpham forget about asicminer
13:10 mircea_popescu i can't be stonewalled. he won't sign, he won't exist pretty much.
13:10 BTCOxygen imsaguy: lol
13:10 jcpham get in on the ground floor of peachMining
13:10 BTCOxygen imsaguy: Use google translate..
13:10 BTCOxygen :P
13:10 Chaang-Noi haha AM wont exist :) hahahah
13:10 imsaguy jcpham, I'm goign to form my own asic company
13:10 jcpham tell me more BTCOxygen
13:10 Chaang-Noi 10% of the network and soon to be 20%
13:10 Technologov__ There is an opportunity to Invest in Avalon ASIC chips.
13:10 Technologov__ Run by .
13:10 Technologov__ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
13:10 jcpham -otc is a terrible place to sell the idea
13:10 imsaguy Chaang-Noi, they've been promising for a while
13:10 imsaguy they're starting to sound like bfl
13:10 Scrat imsaguy: cant help but misread your nick as imsogay :'(
13:11 imsaguy always delays
13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999997 BTC [+]
13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29999998 BTC [+]
13:11 mircea_popescu Scrat for good reason.
13:11 Chaang-Noi they ahve the chips, they dont have the power
13:11 imsaguy Scrat: it happens to those with a reading level below the american fourth grade
13:11 jcpham imsogay
13:11 Chaang-Noi did you read his update today?
13:11 jcpham so funny
13:11 Chaang-Noi and anyway they have 7.7 TH
13:11 Chaang-Noi that is much more than not existing
13:11 imsaguy they're supposed to have like 12 TH
13:11 imsaguy like 3 months ago
13:11 ThickAsThieves ^
13:11 imsaguy how are they going to add 50 more if they can't get teh original going?
13:11 ThickAsThieves they did, they just didnt share
13:12 Chaang-Noi my point was, MP claim of them not existing if they are not on his eschagne is lulz
13:12 imsaguy ThickAsThieves, most likely
13:12 jcpham so 2.8TH/s for 3500BTC?
13:12 imsaguy Chaang-Noi: he meant they won't exist on the exchange, derp
13:12 jcpham ;;genrate 28000000
13:12 gribble The expected generation output, at 28000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 1569.07933912 BTC per day and 65.3783057965 BTC per hour.
13:12 Cylta Can I create options? and do I have to keep a balance to cover them? (and what do I have to do with puts, because they may cost ~inf in case if price will go to 0)?
13:12 mircea_popescu Cylta yes, you can create options. you need to cover them.
13:12 BTCOxygen jcpham: 3TH/s.
13:12 Chaang-Noi imsaguy and that is what i told you
13:12 BTCOxygen Will update OP in few hours.
13:12 jcpham ;;calc 3500*[ticker --avg]
13:12 gribble 476259.42
13:12 Chaang-Noi they dont need anything.
13:13 jcpham ;;bc,stats
13:13 gribble Current Blocks: 233265 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 590 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 6 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9964156.51421 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.02995
13:13 imsaguy THey need content shareholders.
13:13 jcpham what's the timeline until deployed BTCOxygen
13:13 imsaguy Well, technically, they don't even need that.
13:13 ThickAsThieves they have content shareholders
13:13 imsaguy At this point, asicminer has the shareholders by the balls.
13:13 BTCOxygen jcpham: ~July.
13:13 Scrat jcpham thats one zero too many
13:13 jcpham ;;genrate 2800000
13:13 gribble The expected generation output, at 2800000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 156.907933912 BTC per day and 6.53783057965 BTC per hour.
13:13 jcpham ?
13:13 BTCOxygen ;;generate 3000000
13:13 gribble Error: "generate" is not a valid command.
13:14 BTCOxygen ;;genrate 3000000
13:14 gribble The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8974296.01489, is 168.115643477 BTC per day and 7.00481847819 BTC per hour.
13:14 jcpham i'm betting we're way way over 20mil by july in diff
13:14 mircea_popescu there's this crazy gbet about 10mn diff by end of month
13:14 mircea_popescu im so curious which way it neds
13:14 mircea_popescu like 10-20k riding on it
13:14 jcpham ;;genrate 3000000 20000000
13:14 gribble The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 20000000.0, is 75.4359774646 BTC per day and 3.14316572769 BTC per hour.
13:14 imsaguy mircea_popescu, which side are you on?
13:15 mircea_popescu neither actually
13:15 BTCOxygen jcpham: Even if difficulty hit 35mil you are still safe.
13:15 jcpham ;;calc 75*[ticker --avg]*30
13:15 gribble 306166.77
13:15 imsaguy anyone saying a 10x diff hike is nbd is crazy
13:15 jcpham at 20 mil difficulty who is selling the $306k in coins you mine in july
13:16 BTCOxygen imsaguy: So you are saying that the difficulty will not hit 100m ?
13:16 jcpham ;;genrate 3000000 40000000
13:16 gribble The expected generation output, at 3000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 40000000.0, is 37.7179887323 BTC per day and 1.57158286385 BTC per hour.
13:16 jcpham follow up question
13:16 BTCOxygen jcpham: Profits will be paid out to investors in Bitcoins.
13:16 jcpham ;;calc 37*[ticker --avg]*30
13:16 gribble 151040.4084
13:16 imsaguy I know difficuilty will hit much higher than that
13:16 jcpham who sel the 150k in coins the new month at 40 mil
13:16 jcpham it difficult for me to trust
13:17 BTCOxygen jcpham: Why sell the coins ?
13:17 jcpham ic
13:17 jcpham you are right
13:17 jcpham but you want btc upfront?
13:17 BTCOxygen jcpham: Dividends will be paid in Bitcoins.
13:18 BTCOxygen jcpham: Yes we need funding for the project.
13:18 jcpham name "we"
13:18 jcpham publicly
13:19 BTCOxygen Our team
13:19 BTCOxygen Our = I and my partner.
13:19 imsaguy This interview is going well.
13:19 imsaguy <.<
13:19 BTCOxygen team = The people working for us.
13:19 imsaguy >.>
13:19 jcpham you should get used to saying "me John Q Whatever and my partner Steven X> whocares"
13:19 Technologov__
13:19 Scrat the chinese
13:20 Scrat BTCOxygen: are they chinese?
13:20 Technologov__ http://btcoxygen.com/
13:20 jcpham it's half mil in BTC up front
13:20 imsaguy Technologov__: mining pool software is prepackaged these days. it doesn't take rocket science to run it.
13:20 jcpham it's a great idea but you'll need more of a following
13:22 BTCOxygen imsaguy: Yeah it does not need rocket science, Also we built our custom poolserver, Plus we have paid users without troubles.
13:22 BTCOxygen Thats what brings the trust.
13:22 BTCOxygen Paying users = trust.
13:22 imsaguy you're right
13:22 imsaguy I apologize
13:22 truffles i dont like the name btcoxygen..
13:23 imsaguy http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4868208981114978&pid=1.7
13:24 BTCOxygen imsaguy: heh.
13:24 BTCOxygen If anyone is interested please PM me.
13:24 Technologov__ jcpham, read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
13:26 jcpham i'm not going to jump on the tread and be mean but like those guys are saying
13:26 jcpham 3500 btc upfront and AT BEST you'll generate 150BTC/monthly
13:26 jcpham ;;calc 3500/150
13:26 gribble 23.3333333333
13:26 jcpham 23 month roi
13:26 jcpham assuming rainbows
13:26 jcpham and there are no rainbows here
13:27 Scrat it is 150 btc daily
13:27 jcpham oh shit
13:27 jcpham u right my maths is so bad
13:27 Scrat but that doesn't make it anymore viable
13:27 jcpham where do i sign up? I have 1 btc to contrtibute
13:27 Scrat as you said it's a lot of dough upfront
13:28 jcpham i'd like one share please.
13:28 jborkl You owe Topace 20 btc right?
13:28 jborkl that you have not paid in how long
13:28 jborkl ?
13:29 truffles public shaming ftw
13:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+]
13:30 KRS-1 wow price of btc looks higer for once on btc-e
13:31 kakobrekla its not
13:31 kakobrekla http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
13:31 KRS-1 my bad cached
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 17 @ 0.09749 = 1.6573 BTC [-]
13:31 KRS-1 you're right
13:31 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09749 BTC [-]
13:32 BTCOxygen jcpham: Pm me if interested.
13:32 BTCOxygen jborkl: I have been paing him from my profits.
13:32 BTCOxygen ;;calc 3500/(150 * 30)
13:32 gribble 0.777777777778
13:32 BTCOxygen jcpham: ^^^
13:35 BTCOxygen truffles: It sounds cool to me.
13:37 truffles oprah already has oxygen network though
13:37 truffles it would take getting used to
13:38 truffles i just like bold names
13:39 Chilca Nice site: http://www.satoshiplay.com/
13:40 mircea_popescu Proudly powered by WordPress. GamePress ?
13:44 mircea_popescu "I think rpietila is very close to establishing cult of personality. What MP achieves with mental coercion, rpietila does using humour, and with ease."
13:45 MJR_ lol
13:45 MJR_ who is that guy?
13:45 mircea_popescu no srlsy, the bitcointalk forum is like... seinfeld.
13:45 mircea_popescu MJR_ i totally have no idea.
13:45 MJR_ hmmm i think i am going to do an otc transaction
13:45 mircea_popescu "some douche" is the best i got out of mpoe-pr
13:45 MJR_ or at least try
13:46 Technologov__ So what kind of assets are here?
13:46 Technologov__ Any good Bitcoins companies traded ?
13:46 Technologov__ start-ups ?
13:46 truffles *crickets*
13:47 mircea_popescu yes.
13:49 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 46 @ 0.0975 = 4.485 BTC [+]
13:50 MJR_ hmmm
13:50 MJR_ anyone here know of a quick cash option?
13:51 jborkl I feel dumb for reading part of that reptelia thread
13:51 jborkl reminds me why I do not read the forum
13:51 mircea_popescu MJR_ what do you mean quick cash option ?
13:52 cylta MJR_: pirate? but unfortunately he temporarly suspended his project =)
13:52 BTCOxygen cylta: FYI, He permenently suspended his project.
13:52 mircea_popescu stop spreading fud
13:52 cylta BTCOxygen: <\irony>
13:53 Technologov__ who is "he" ?
13:53 Technologov__ And which project ?
13:57 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136699181151.jpg check out the cat.
13:57 inhies mircea_popescu: wat cat
13:58 jurov yes a cat is there, zoom moar
13:58 mircea_popescu jurov has immunity.
13:59 inhies slightly intoxicated
13:59 inhies i see no cat
13:59 inhies not even in teh slightest bit
13:59 Cylta I see two cats =)
13:59 mircea_popescu maybe if upside down ?
13:59 jurov two cats at 10 o'clock
13:59 davout i smell pussy
13:59 mircea_popescu so wash.
13:59 davout :3
13:59 mircea_popescu lol
14:00 inhies ˙ɹǝʇʇǝq ɥɔnɯ s,ʇɐɥʇ ˙ʍou ʇı ǝǝs ı 'ʞo ɥɐ :nɔsǝdod‾ɐǝɔɹıɯ
14:00 mircea_popescu haha
14:00 topace [11:27:57] You owe Topace 20 btc right?
14:01 topace ^ indeed he does
14:01 inhies i read that as Tupac
14:01 inhies =/
14:02 mircea_popescu that's intentional
14:02 mircea_popescu he's trying to start a personality cult
14:03 truffles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0 one of my favorite songs
14:03 truffles thanks to CM Punk..
14:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4244 = 2.122 BTC [-]
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.21 = 4.84 BTC [-]
~ 27 minutes ~
14:36 hellohello can someone help me?))
14:37 kakobrekla hello hellohello
14:39 BTCOxygen Technologov__: pirateat40 was a scammer.
14:40 BTCOxygen He ran away with the bitcoins.
14:40 Technologov__ ??? I never ever heard of him.
14:40 Technologov__ How an investor be a scammer ?
14:40 BTCOxygen Technologov__: Yeah because he ran away long ago.
14:40 Technologov__ Either he invests or he does not.
14:40 BTCOxygen He is not an Investor.
14:40 BTCOxygen He was running the project.
14:41 Technologov__ then what ? Which project ?
14:41 BTCOxygen Technologov__: He was paying a high interest rate to users who invested with him.
14:41 Technologov__ aha. Typical ponzi.
14:42 BTCOxygen yep.
14:42 Technologov__ There is no risk-free interest above government bonds. Really.
14:42 Technologov__ maybe 3% at most.
14:42 Technologov__ As a small investor, I know it for sure.
14:43 Technologov__ Anything above that takes risk (and time).
14:43 BTCOxygen Technologov__: FYI, He ran away with 100,000 Bitcoins.
14:43 Technologov__ YAY !
14:43 Technologov__ huge amount
14:43 Cylta Technologov__: goverment bonds are not risk-free.
14:43 BTCOxygen I don't want to do the math its painfull.
14:43 Technologov__ Cylta, why not ? gvmt can simply print money to return cash.
14:43 Technologov__ so it is risk-free.
14:44 mircea_popescu heya hellohello
14:44 Technologov__ gvmt has no reason to default on own obligations.
14:44 hellohello hi
14:44 Cylta Technologov__: ahhh, in this meaning... yes. but money can default (or start to huperinflate)
14:44 BTCOxygen ;;calc 100000*[ticker --avg]
14:44 gribble 13572660.0
14:44 BTCOxygen Technologov__: ^^^ Here is the math.
14:45 Technologov__ (only if they use someone else's money, like in Spain... those PIGS - pirtugal, italy, greece, spain)
14:45 Cylta BTCOxygen: for such amount you should take 30d avg...
14:46 BTCOxygen Also IIRC he converted bitcoins to USD as soon as he recieved them.
14:46 BTCOxygen So hes not that rich.
14:47 Technologov__ converting 100,000 BTC takes time...
14:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1791 @ 0.00278789 = 4.9931 BTC [-]
14:47 BTCOxygen Technologov__: He recieved in small chunks with a total of 100,000 before he ran away.
14:47 mircea_popescu not if you're in the wot. took him all of a day oir w./e
14:48 jcpham http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/butterfly/
14:48 jcpham 2 more weeks!
14:48 jcpham Meanwhile, Butterfly Labs is nowhere near full production capacity. The company says that its systems will continue to trickle out, with another 75 to 150 shipping in the next few weeks.
14:48 jcpham In the meantime, if you have an questions about the Butterfly Labs machine, send us an email.
14:48 mircea_popescu ahaha noway
14:49 Cylta jcpham: i think I heared it somewhere already...
14:49 jcpham wired says fuck you
14:49 jcpham if you think it's fake
14:49 Technologov__ BTCOxygen, and I have a fear about similar fate with Avalon ASICs
14:49 Technologov__ that's why I wanna wait until ppl will start receiving first batch units
14:49 Technologov__ + dev boards
14:49 Technologov__ I _do_ believe the ASICs are real
14:49 Technologov__ because of this: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
14:49 mircea_popescu so when it turens out to be actually fakwe
14:49 Technologov__ But I highly doubt, that they will ship any.
14:50 mircea_popescu i guess we all sue wired. this is good news.
14:50 mircea_popescu conde nast actually has money, so...
14:50 mircea_popescu i'm tickled pink over here.
14:50 Cylta first batch of avalon already reached their customers, no?
14:50 mircea_popescu yea.
14:50 Technologov__ More probably they will keep to themselves. (so their accepted BTC might be a scam)
14:51 jcpham these guys at BFL are masters of hype
14:51 jcpham i give them credit where it is due
14:51 mircea_popescu jcpham its literally not that hard to do. get a journo dood to post nonsense ? 100 bux or w/e
14:51 BTCOxygen Technologov__: There are 300 working units.
14:51 jcpham but i mean like the company name is unassuming and disarming even "butterfly"
14:52 jcpham wtf
14:52 BTCOxygen I know 5-6 people personally who recieved their Avalon.
14:52 jcpham it's all smoke and mirrors
14:52 jcpham but they have produced a product
14:52 Technologov__ no. Only 3 developers IMO.
14:52 Technologov__ 1st batch Avalons did *not* reach end-users (buyers).
14:52 Technologov__ jcpham, I doubt if Avalon are better
14:52 Technologov__ where? At their company ?
14:52 jcpham so i digress for now until it collapses
14:52 Technologov__ Show me 20 users, whom actually _received_ any ASICs.
14:52 Technologov__ I could not find not on forums and not in chat
14:52 Technologov__ But this graph: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
14:53 Technologov__ Clearly says that ASICs are for real.
14:53 jcpham i know of 3 actual avalons
14:53 jcpham and the owners and i've spoken with them
14:53 jcpham that's it
14:53 jcpham my world is small though
14:53 BTCOxygen Technologov__: I mean I know end-users.
14:54 BTCOxygen There are 5 Avalons mining at my pool tho.
14:54 Technologov__ but the risk-reward is potentially so high, that it is worth the (limited) risk.
14:54 BTCOxygen I think even imsaguy has an Avalon.
14:54 Technologov__ hmm, good to know.
14:55 mircea_popescu BTCOxygen which pool is that again ?
14:55 Technologov__ BTCOxygen :)
14:55 BTCOxygen http://btcoxygen.com
14:56 mircea_popescu http://blockchain.info/pools ?
14:56 mircea_popescu you telling me 5 avalons doesn't get you in the list ?
14:56 BTCOxygen yes.
14:56 mircea_popescu what's an avalon, 60gh ?
14:56 jcpham 300GH/s barely gets blocks
14:57 jcpham need moar
14:57 BTCOxygen Also they don't list blocks properly.
14:57 BTCOxygen 500GH/s
14:57 jcpham how is 500 GH/s regular blocks?
14:57 jcpham daily?
14:57 mircea_popescu mk, otherwise : Top Hashers 63gh/s
14:57 mircea_popescu seems there's one avalon there, and it does 80% or so of the pool ?
14:58 BTCOxygen
14:58 BTCOxygen check*
14:58 jcpham 100-400GH/s was struggling to keep up a few months back
14:58 jcpham from talking with pool ops
14:58 jcpham be interesting to see how it paces now
14:59 Technologov__ Now, the hash rate:
14:59 Technologov__ <-- Cylta has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
14:59 Technologov__ http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate
14:59 Technologov__ If this graph would be flat, I would buy a GPU, and not believe into ASIC lore.
15:00 Technologov__ But due to huge spike, I believe, that ASICs actually exist.
15:00 BTCOxygen mircea_popescu: I see 3 Avalons.
15:00 mircea_popescu where ?
15:00 BTCOxygen 2 users pointing 1/3 Avalon.
15:00 MJR_ otc is too stressful
15:01 KRS-1 must be BFL
15:01 error4733 testing for 4 month
15:01 KRS-1 my friend has some of their fpga stuff
15:01 mircea_popescu #1 1510 62186
15:01 mircea_popescu #2 1160 14981
15:01 mircea_popescu #3 1210 14272
15:01 KRS-1 nice hardware
15:01 mircea_popescu seems to me only 1st can be an avalon. right ?
15:01 BTCOxygen imsaguy: you here?
15:02 jcpham he has one BTCOxygen
15:02 BTCOxygen mircea_popescu: 1st is full Avalon.
15:02 BTCOxygen The other 2 are 1/3 Avalon.
15:02 jcpham imsogay owns an avalon
15:03 Technologov__ 1/3 avalon ? hmm... 20 GH/s ?
15:03 BTCOxygen Also there a many users posting about their Avalon on bitcointalk.
15:03 Technologov__ hmm...
15:03 mircea_popescu 1/3 avalon ?!
15:03 imsaguy wut
15:03 mircea_popescu who dioes this lol
15:03 BTCOxygen Its a cgminer feature.
15:03 imsaguy load balancing of cgminer
15:04 BTCOxygen imsaguy: Yeah.
15:04 imsaguy why did you highlight me?
15:05 mircea_popescu he would like to have your babies.
15:05 BTCOxygen imsaguy: How many Avalon users do you know?
15:05 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.2 = 4.8 BTC [+]
15:07 imsaguy mircea_popescu: that is quite impossible
15:07 imsaguy BTCOxygen: a few.
15:07 jurov you have been accues of having onw yourself
15:07 jurov *accused
15:08 ezdiy owning an asic is accusation now
15:08 ezdiy hmm
15:08 jcpham my bad
15:09 jcpham i tell lies on the internet for fun
15:09 jcpham no one owns asic
15:09 Technologov__ some ppl do. proof ?
15:09 jcpham facedesk.
15:09 Technologov__ jcpham, http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate
15:09 jcpham that's just a chart
15:10 jcpham those numbers could be made up
15:10 BTCOxygen Anyone who clains that there are no Avalons in the wild should read this whole thread.
15:10 BTCOxygen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137534.0
15:10 ezdiy jurov: i think the rational explanation would be: give impression you want to get asics "out there so people dont lose trust" but in fact keep it private for as long as possible :)
15:10 Technologov__ going from 20 to 80 GH/s (in a MONTH !!!) can not be done via GPU.
15:10 BTCOxygen Technologov__: yes.
15:10 jcpham cpu mining botnet probably Technologov__
15:10 BTCOxygen lol
15:10 jcpham ;)
15:10 Technologov__ jcpham, LOL ! How u tried mining on CPU ?
15:10 BTCOxygen Technologov__: rpcminr :P
15:10 jcpham nah pool won't accept a share for shit
15:11 Technologov__ it is 100 times slower than GPU and 100,000 times slower than ASIC
15:11 jcpham hurrrrrr
15:11 mircea_popescu the conspiracy is strong in here.
15:11 Technologov__ CPU mining will cost you x100 more in electricity than Bitcoins you produce...
15:11 BTCOxygen Technologov__: +100 for having that knowledge.
15:11 jcpham i bet it's confusing talking to me.
15:12 jcpham i believe asic exists. yes.
15:12 jurov but really, i see it like either many asic users want to stay secret, or they are chinese not on btctalk
15:12 ezdiy seeing is believing
15:12 jurov or manufacturers mine themselves instead
15:12 jcpham yeah the technology has made it like this
15:12 Technologov__ I would invest in ASIC company yes, but I dunno any.
15:13 jcpham a device that makes thousands of bucks a day potentially is a security risk
15:13 ezdiy jurov: even chinese guys reported selective vip treatment in regards to shipments from avalon
15:13 Technologov__ if BTCOxygen can find any, I might invest (@_@)
15:14 jcpham http://mobile.news.com.au/national-news/killer-escaped-prison-after-being-issued-picture-of-master-key-to-all-locks
15:14 ezdiy 404
15:14 ezdiy but title sounds interesting
15:15 jcpham damnit
15:15 jcpham http://mobile.news.com.au/national-news/killer-escaped-prison-after-being-issued-picture-of-master-key-to-all-locks/story-fncynjr2-1226629878591
15:15 jcpham i cut off the numbers
15:15 error4733 saw that before !! some ppl make key with picture on flicker !!
15:15 jcpham pretty dumb for a prison
15:16 ezdiy maybe it was recruitment practice of mossad
15:16 jcpham not sure a single master key falls under byzantine failover
15:16 ezdiy you know, sieve through thousands of retarded criminals to find one smart enough
15:17 jcpham perfect storm, a jeweler, a criminal, and a book
15:19 BTCOxygen Technologov__: Oh I found a very interesting thread for you.
15:19 BTCOxygen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.0
15:19 error4733 oz story lol
15:20 truffles oz is goat prison show
15:20 BTCOxygen Here one user posted pictures of his Avalon.
15:20 BTCOxygen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.msg1699573#msg1699573
15:21 BTCOxygen Anyone who is not sure if Avalon will ship should read this thread from page 1 to 11.
15:21 BTCOxygen https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141154.0
15:21 truffles "This bird has flown" such a boss
15:21 Technologov__
15:22 truffles knew theyd ship em, not rich enough to buy em
15:22 Technologov__ truffles, u can invest in Avalon here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184305.0
15:24 truffles dont have any bitcoins
15:24 Technologov__ I did not had either until a week ago ^^
15:24 Technologov__ I bought them via Western Union.
15:24 Technologov__ at #bitcoin-otc
15:25 Technologov__ because my $3000 Rig PC generates only 0.001 BTC per day.
15:25 Technologov__ (on dual GPUs)
15:25 benkay just two?
15:25 benkay ;)
15:26 Technologov__ yeah, only 2.
15:26 truffles those avalons remind me of this http://www.recipeapart.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/550x420xEniac-1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.BnzZ_VJDGR.jpg
15:26 Technologov__ and what ? I worked at Cisco Systems. There are *much* more cables there. I assure you.
15:27 Technologov__ any large company has a data-center those days.
15:27 truffles knew ppl who just gushed over cisco systems..
15:27 benkay ew gross owning your own data centers
15:28 benkay great way to keep your sysadmin costs high
15:28 benkay <-- cloud ops
15:28 truffles say no to skynet?
15:29 benkay meh
15:29 benkay depends on how we code it
15:29 benkay if we write it to minimize entropy, that would be cool
15:32 jcpham You rated user diatonic on Mon Mar 11 14:26:46 2013, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Attempted and pre-paid for 24 hour mining lease. Unforseeable circumstances changed our plans..
15:32 jcpham wtf
15:32 jcpham my paste is just doing it's own thing today
15:33 truffles copy paste fail?
15:33 Scrat ;;slap jcpham
15:33 gribble
15:33 jcpham mmmmhmmmm'
15:33 Technologov__ truffles, what I'm trying to say, is that you can invest even without having Bitcoins. Just must buy them.
15:34 Technologov__ And as any start-up investments, it brings you a certain amount of risk-reward.
15:34 truffles if i were a rich person id have no problems investing ofc, alas im not
15:35 Technologov__ come on... it is all about mind-set. Don't needs to be rich ^^
15:35 truffles isnt that why i would invest though
15:35 truffles pile up my stacks
15:36 Technologov__ with what ?
15:36 truffles stacks
15:36 Technologov__ That investment is a new company.
15:36 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
15:36 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 137.02000, Best ask: 137.21000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 137.02000, 24 hour volume: 255394.07450224, 24 hour low: 120.08900, 24 hour high: 157.00000, 24 hour vwap: 135.59396
15:36 Technologov__ that will purchase and run Avalons for you
15:36 Technologov__ and send you proceeds
15:37 truffles im not a potential investor sorry
15:37 Technologov__ so you don't need to waste time/lectricity/head-ache, customs bureaucracy and so forth
15:37 truffles im here to discuss anything else if u wish
15:37 Technologov__ OK
15:37 truffles even local dominatrix's if u wish
15:37 Technologov__ But isn't bitcoin-assets all about investing ?
15:38 truffles not rly
15:38 mircea_popescu investing != throwing money.
15:38 truffles bunch of penis waving
15:38 Technologov__ about what ?
15:38 Technologov__ mircea_popescu, no one is throwing money. Just taking risks.
15:38 Technologov__ which is not the same
15:38 Cylta mircea_popescu: is it illigal to buy\sell mpex accounts?
15:38 mircea_popescu Cylta nope.
15:39 mircea_popescu dubious from a security pov maybe
15:40 jcpham i love it when doms throw money at me
15:40 Technologov__ I can take risk, but I like to be paid for it.
15:40 Guest00001 mp no way to change pgp key ?
15:40 Guest00001 if asked ?
15:42 truffles i love it when doms throw money at me >>> go on
15:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18 BTC [-]
15:42 jcpham freak
15:42 truffles haha
15:42 mircea_popescu well you can register a new one and push to it.
15:44 error4733 just 30 btc
15:44 error4733 :)
15:44 truffles whats the fee supposed to cover cost wise?
15:45 truffles 30 seems extreme
15:48 benkay truffles, how much does a seat on the NYSE cost?
15:49 benkay and truffles, how is that related to their operating costs?
15:49 benkay rhetorical questions. too much for you to afford, and it's not.
15:49 truffles lol
15:49 truffles i guess one must pay for a seat ..
15:50 truffles seeing that this is bitcoin i thought things would be a bit different
15:50 benkay they are different
15:50 benkay you encrypt orders with gpg
15:50 benkay print them out
15:50 benkay fly them to romania on a carrier pigeon
15:51 asciilifeform benkay: may as well ask how the cost of a NYC taxi medallion relates to the cost of the bureaucrat's pen that signs the paperwork.
15:52 mircea_popescu fucking unfair comparison of the century. i hate taxi medallions.
15:52 benkay except that the bureaucrat doesn't own the medallion organization, the mob does
15:53 ezdiy truffles: vipcoin is confusing, but otherwise legit
15:53 benkay but i think we're making the same points.
15:53 ezdiy truffles: here is exact process how 30 bitcoins are turned into vipcoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQBOw88ksXA
15:53 mircea_popescu what's vipcoin even ?!
15:53 benkay and yet vipcoin doesn't break top page google
15:54 truffles sounded like a legit altcoin
15:54 Technologov__ BTCOxygen, ping
15:54 truffles hope this song is good
15:54 asciilifeform IMHO taxi medallions are a fair comparison. They, just as the MPEx fee, exist to keep the riffraff out.
15:55 ezdiy truffles: seek 1:40 for teenage girl
15:55 truffles assuming i like girls
15:55 asciilifeform Were it not for medallions, NYC would probably look like Shanghai (rickshaws, etc.) I'm fine with that, but the rulers of the place evidently aren't
15:55 ezdiy teenage is the important part
15:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're neglecting the entire geographical monopoly angle.
15:56 asciilifeform MP has said, in essence, that he doesn't want MPEx to become a Shanghai crawling with the equivalent of rickshaws.
15:56 asciilifeform If I understand correctly
15:57 truffles exclusive club
15:57 ezdiy yet payola is the realm of criminal forums
15:57 ezdiy so which is it?
15:57 ezdiy :)
15:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't have a problem with rickshaws per se.
15:58 mircea_popescu there's historically been small corps listed, it's not that.
15:58 truffles i enjoyed it
15:59 ezdiy well
15:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we were talking about the 30 BTC user account fee, right? rather than listings
15:59 ezdiy thats what vip is about
15:59 ezdiy teenage girls, database management and company lunches
15:59 truffles i just want the lunches
15:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's easy access for someone even with 0.1 btc. there's pts, there's brokers.
16:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.4248 = 5.0976 BTC [+]
16:00 ezdiy truffles: no soup for you
16:00 ezdiy i think mircea_popescu plays the soupnazi part well
16:00 benkay no no no, the role of taxi medallions is to reduce the number of taxis on the street
16:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that's like saying that "eTrade" with its $x/trade fees is a perfectly good alternative to a seat on the NYSE
16:01 mircea_popescu well... would you say seat on nyse = london cab medallion ?
16:01 mircea_popescu ezdiy ty
16:01 truffles truffles: no soup for you >> soup nazi!
16:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sure
16:01 benkay mircea_popescu would be only too happy to have more traders on his exchange, he just doesn't want to deal with the riffraff. he wants others to aggregate riffraff orders and place them on MPEx.
16:02 benkay at least I think that's what he wants. open to correction on that count.
16:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well then everything's everything and wtf.
16:02 mircea_popescu benkay there was some pretty good discussion with pgp on this, lemme d ig
16:02 benkay thanks mircea_popescu, feel free to pm it over
16:02 truffles wants more money and people to agree with whatever he says
16:02 asciilifeform benkay: riffraff interested in automated trading are more or less written out of the script. MP runs his own house how he likes, I'm fine with that. But why not call things by their real names.
16:03 benkay asciilifeform what's the real name, then? medallions are a competition inhibitor, the exchange seat fee is just an "are you serious" check
16:03 benkay it's not even that much money
16:03 ezdiy asciilifeform: real names are bad for pr
16:04 truffles its working
16:04 orkaa http://i.imgur.com/Haw7Qy4.jpg
16:04 orkaa haha
16:05 mircea_popescu lmao
16:05 asciilifeform benkay: the bureaucrats (in practice) own NYC, and charge whatever the hell they want for taxi licenses. a bar can charge for entrance. nothing wrong with that. what I'm unclear on is why the MP fee is a different kind of animal.
16:05 truffles omg what is that orkaa!!!
16:05 ezdiy orkaa: +1 for underage, -1 not naked
16:05 ezdiy asciilifeform: thats how it works
16:05 orkaa i saw this on tv some time ago, it's real :)
16:05 ezdiy asciilifeform: in general its called vendor lock-in
16:06 truffles orkaa add metzitzah b'peh and its complete
16:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform is there a way i can run a cab in london just for a day ?
16:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: I imagine you could buy a medallion and sell it the next day, if you wanted to
16:07 asciilifeform just like an MPEx account
16:08 mircea_popescu can you actually sell those ?
16:08 benkay probably
16:08 mircea_popescu maybe the disagreement is borne out of me not understanding taxi medallions too well.
16:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: IDK about London, but in most places you can
16:08 mircea_popescu afaik it's just this nonsense to keep people who would like to work off
16:08 mircea_popescu sorta like a union
16:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: If I recall, most NYC drivers take out monstrous loans to buy medallions.
16:08 benkay most don't even buy the medallions
16:08 benkay others do
16:08 benkay ibankers and whatnot
16:09 mircea_popescu meh.
16:09 ezdiy why people who dont understand basic market forces (if you have little competition, it makes sense to introduce artificial scarcity) want to trade on mpex?
16:09 mircea_popescu ezdiy that absolutely isn't the rationale.
16:09 truffles back him into a corner here
16:09 ezdiy mircea_popescu: occam is cutting his veins though :)
16:09 mircea_popescu i know.
16:09 ezdiy mircea_popescu: i'm not dismissing it, whatever the reason its totally legit
16:10 mircea_popescu the problem with cheapo/clueless investors is that they follow trends
16:10 mircea_popescu this induces huge volatility which then wrecks assets.
16:10 asciilifeform ezdiy: I'm not clamouring to buy an MPEx account for a penny, just objecting to the notion that the fee is somehow different from taxi medallions
16:10 mircea_popescu i still think it is.
16:10 benkay I agree.
16:10 benkay not all customers are good customers.
16:11 benkay and when money is involved as a core part of the business, many of your customers will in fact be bad customers without quality control.
16:11 ezdiy mircea_popescu: you do that at the cost of huge spreads though
16:11 ezdiy as long people are content with those, well why not
16:11 ezdiy your idea of rate limiting the market holds water
16:11 mircea_popescu well the problem with the "as long as people are content" argument
16:12 mircea_popescu is that it's how we ended up with shit on tv.
16:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: How would you personally explain the apparent lack of competition to MPEx? Is it simply the fact that no one else has the "reputation capital" ?
16:12 mircea_popescu people have this incredible ability to "be content" with anything. frog in boiling water experiment if you know it.
16:12 ezdiy mircea_popescu: yup
16:12 ezdiy boil em slow :)
16:12 truffles reputation hhaha
16:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a complicated web. no one has the competence, or the capital, or the reputation, or the connections, etc etc
16:12 mircea_popescu they just feed into each other.
16:13 asciilifeform truffles: I meant the banal fact that MPEx works as it says on the box, and none of the vaguely similar services proved to do the same
16:13 jborkl Mp, has a stellar reputation. Unless you beleive asshole trolls and other people that are poor
16:13 mircea_popescu i think people grossly misrepresent what all is involved.
16:14 ezdiy clouds can be cleared up only if youre open about it
16:15 ezdiy heck even bitcoinica eventually became opensource :)
16:15 mircea_popescu lmao
16:15 ezdiy so people are ok w/ bitfinex because its obvious what theyre dealing with
16:16 ezdiy black boxes give room to a lot of speculation
16:16 asciilifeform Ok, let's see if I understand: the 30 BTC is for keeping MPEx a market full of people who measure 1000 times "before cutting once." No trendoids, etc. Now let's say Warren Buffet (or somesuch) opens WBEx, charging 1 BTC.
16:16 ezdiy as well as affiliate marketing schemes for vipcoin
16:16 asciilifeform it fills up with trendoids
16:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform problem with your let's suppose is that it's nonsensical.
16:17 mircea_popescu last thing he'd do is that.
16:17 mircea_popescu he'd open a 1000 btc one first, he'd partner with me 2nd.
16:17 asciilifeform ok, someone else with a bag full of BTC and a resonably good meatspace reputation, then.
16:17 mircea_popescu but do you understand your own example ?
16:18 mircea_popescu buffy is famous for having told his bh specialist
16:18 mircea_popescu "if the next trade happens a year or so from now i'll be very happy"
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7051 = 3.4102 BTC [-]
16:19 asciilifeform what I'm rather hazy on is how well MPEx would hold up against a "good enough" clone that meets the basic criterion of "not being an outright scam" (AFAIK none of the MPEx competitors have met this standard)
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16:19 ezdiy it holds pretty well
16:19 truffles make em sweat
16:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im not sure what the incentive is exactly. you'd finance a clone rather than buy shares because ... ?
16:20 jborkl Wait, I trust MP - so who is this you are proposing? Just some random asshole with a website?
16:20 mircea_popescu s.dice competition never materialised EXACTLY because s.dice listed.
16:20 mircea_popescu once that happened it's impossible to finance a clone anymore.
16:20 truffles impossible nice word
16:20 asciilifeform jborkl: no, not a random arse, someone with a good reputation, hypothetically
16:20 ezdiy people really underestimate network effects
16:20 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2 = 2.4 BTC [+]
16:21 jborkl there is no one with enough sense and enough money currently
16:21 ezdiy sdice, mtgox and mpex are examples of such
16:21 jborkl strike one and two
16:21 mircea_popescu so srsly asciilifeform, let's say your reputation is enoug, and you have 10k btc to burn.
16:21 mircea_popescu you decide it has to burn in this space.
16:21 asciilifeform jborkl: true, just as there is no semiconductor plant owner with the good sense to drop some of his pocket change on building a million ASIC miners and running them in his own mansion.
16:21 ezdiy jborkl: competition eventually overcomes the network effect resistance
16:21 ezdiy jborkl: inb4 bitvegas ipo
16:21 mircea_popescu a. you buy s.mpoe shares b. you try and make a competitor.
16:22 mircea_popescu which is your pick ?
16:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: By this logic Pepsi ought not to exist, they should just re-sell Coke?
16:23 mircea_popescu they do.
16:23 ezdiy they do? :)
16:23 jborkl a shitty clone of it
16:23 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=188177.0
16:23 ezdiy mircea_popescu: how do i buy cola in kfc :)
16:24 ezdiy what if bitvegas started kfc
16:24 ezdiy and bundled their cola with it?
16:24 ezdiy would it make sense to invest in mpex then?
16:24 mircea_popescu im unsure wtf bitvegas is.
16:25 mircea_popescu o the team fortress thing ?
16:25 ezdiy mircea_popescu: :)
16:25 ezdiy its easy to measure growth
16:25 ezdiy where it is stalled and where it is not
16:25 jborkl anyway, what time exactly do options expire MP? in UTC?
16:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there could be logical reasons for starting one's own "MPEx, with blackjack and hookers." Say I want to use evil altchains. And, AFAIK MPEx shares are non-voting, so it isn't that I could buy enough of them to make MP do this deed.
16:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform now you're talking angles.
16:26 mircea_popescu originally discussion was straight clone.
16:26 mircea_popescu if you mean start a competitor with an angle, it all boils down to whether the angle a. actually helps you and b. is good enouigh to push you
16:26 ezdiy mircea_popescu: copycats work perfectly good
16:26 ezdiy be the underdog and wait for the uber dogs demise
16:27 ezdiy lets see ... gblse?
16:27 ezdiy :)
16:27 truffles thats impossible
16:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ok, let's stick to clones. Picture Bill Gates, a hypothetical BGEx with a 5 BTC fee.
16:27 mircea_popescu ezdiy again people underestimate what goes on in the background.
16:27 ezdiy truffles: not by market forces, but by something stupid
16:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform and he's doing this on pgp ?
16:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7513 @ 0.00070108 = 5.2672 BTC [+]
16:27 truffles was being silly :)
16:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sure, I agree, this is a stretch of the imagination. but let's imagine.
16:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, pgp.
16:28 mircea_popescu ok this i wish to see.
16:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: AFAIK you don't have a monopoly on PGP
16:28 ezdiy asciilifeform: you're wasting your time, btw
16:28 mircea_popescu so bill gates is making a mpex clone complete with pgp and everything.
16:29 mircea_popescu +1000 points for me for being so cool. will any of the big people switch to him ? maybe so. maybe not.
16:29 mircea_popescu i can probably exit to jpm for a billion at that point anyway.
16:29 ezdiy mp stands, but might possibly fall, because mircea_popescu is uber consistent in everything
16:29 ezdiy which also means you cant convince him by make believe arguments
16:29 mircea_popescu at which poin tyhe deal becomes jpmpex vs bgex
16:29 mircea_popescu and i gues jpmpex wins
16:29 mircea_popescu i won't be there to see it likely, but anyway.
16:30 ezdiy asciilifeform: the general term is jerk irl :)
16:30 truffles i think he'll last a while, he has minions
16:30 ezdiy yep
16:30 ezdiy the bitch army is impressive
16:30 ezdiy :)
16:30 asciilifeform ezdiy: I think you misunderstand. I'm not trying to convince MP of anything in particular. Just playing out a thought experiment: what would happen if MPEx actually had competition.
16:30 ezdiy jurov: ohai!
16:30 truffles yep im impressed
16:31 ezdiy truffles: rpietila took it from the other end
16:31 ezdiy mp first build something tangible, then the bitch army
16:31 asciilifeform kakobrekla: what on earth is a Bitcoin Supernode?
16:31 kakobrekla yes!
16:31 ezdiy rpietila is apparently starting with the bitch army and maybe turn out to be not elaborate troll and come up with something
16:32 mircea_popescu ezdiy it's kinda funny to compare "pic of mp with people" vs "pic of foreveralone btctalk dud"
16:32 truffles do u know he put mircea_popescu on ignore right after we were going to "debate" something he posted our comments on his blog then i refused to subscribe, right around the time he paid people to troll SomthingAwful forums
16:32 ezdiy mircea_popescu: indeed :)
16:32 truffles he =mp
16:32 kakobrekla rpietila had too much cocaine
16:34 ezdiy so much shame goat burned the cover
16:34 ezdiy that thread was so full of gold
16:34 mircea_popescu totally.
16:34 truffles link?
16:34 mircea_popescu goat gets confused in troll gold threads.
16:35 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.0;all
16:36 truffles thanks kakobrekla
16:36 ezdiy still
16:36 ezdiy interesting phenomena
16:36 ezdiy bitch armies, whiteknighting and all
16:36 ezdiy because those are irrelevant
16:36 kakobrekla i quote
16:36 kakobrekla Think of this as a book, or at least as a quality blog, to be enjoyed with quality wine and cigars in candle light.
16:36 ezdiy important is only network effect
16:36 kakobrekla comedy central in that setting?
16:36 ezdiy take mtgox, fe, everyone agrees their stuff is sub-par
16:37 ezdiy no bitch army, everybody hates magicaltux's guts
16:37 ezdiy yet its the biggest
16:37 mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol candlelight and screen. sounds legit
16:37 ezdiy kakobrekla: yup, thats how i understood it
16:38 ezdiy i mean, the guy clearly stated to be not taken seriously
16:38 ezdiy so hey
16:38 ezdiy and then gives free advice of mid-range silver vendor
16:38 ezdiy i'm ok with that
16:39 kakobrekla oooo
16:39 kakobrekla http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/13549021_uu.jpg
16:39 kakobrekla this delivers
16:39 jcpham silver stackin
16:39 kakobrekla imma gona print a shitload of qr codes
16:39 mircea_popescu lmao
16:39 kakobrekla stick it allover me
16:39 jcpham i'll take pics of your qr codes and baby giraffe
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4781 = 0.9562 BTC [+]
16:40 jcpham oppulence
16:41 truffles important is only network effect >> i dunno hypocrisy is annoying
16:41 ezdiy truffles: what do you mean?
16:42 truffles one set of behavior is okay for some people and diff rules apply for others
16:42 ezdiy
16:42 ezdiy no, still nothing
16:43 ezdiy truffles: world is full of hypocrisy
16:44 truffles to be feigned a bit in "polite society" id hope :)
16:45 ezdiy well, there is that thing
16:47 truffles i have no quality wine and cigars in candle light maybe i should stop reading
16:47 ColdHardMetal https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApraDvGtZTsbdGxTZGxreXhHUTRCM0pmakNpU3NkQmc#gid=0
16:47 ezdiy truffles: being a bitch means you strongly defend your cult figure while youre subject ot heir will
16:48 mircea_popescu i thought it just meant being annoying.
16:48 ezdiy truffles: being polite just means not giving a crap about things you cant change
16:48 ezdiy for example, opionons
16:48 truffles hehe
16:48 ezdiy mircea_popescu: from the pov of dictator, it is :)
16:48 truffles i like to hear them though
16:48 mircea_popescu lolwut
16:48 ezdiy subjects are always annyoing
16:48 ezdiy you know
16:48 truffles i think those ppl have tunnel vision, they wont get it
16:49 ezdiy they have their stupid feelings and such
16:49 mircea_popescu i dunno what dictators you've been hanging out with...
16:49 truffles although mp certainly wont if he's got me on ignore hehe
16:49 ezdiy cognitive dissonance is to be cherished
16:49 ezdiy to manipulate
16:49 ezdiy but its uber annoying at the same time
16:50 ezdiy truffles: i think mp is strongwilled enough to just feign ignore
16:51 ezdiy curiosity and strong will results just not responding :)
16:51 truffles i doubt that
16:51 truffles im just annoyed we couldnt "debate" before the ignore ...
16:52 ezdiy truffles: better come up with some plot
16:53 ezdiy to ignite the nuclear war again
16:53 truffles haha
16:53 ezdiy between soupnazi and kim jong un of finland
16:53 truffles im focused on other times so its not a big deal
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16:54 mircea_popescu this is making so little sense...
16:54 truffles im not a schemer or scammer
16:54 saulimus why finland?
16:54 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134491269729.jpg have some water buffalo.
16:54 ezdiy its the new bitcoin supernode
16:56 ezdiy mircea_popescu: i'm yuzhe, btw
16:56 kakobrekla i wish reptil dude would come around
16:56 ezdiy "some douche", pfft
16:56 ezdiy tell her shes fugly
16:56 ezdiy kakobrekla: the circle would be complete!
16:56 mircea_popescu man... i have no idea what's going on.
16:56 truffles wow
16:56 truffles ezdiy ure an interesting dude
16:57 kakobrekla mircea_popescu, truffles is speaking
16:57 truffles bet they still dont get it
16:57 mircea_popescu so who's yuhzer
16:57 mircea_popescu so i
16:58 SlipperySlope mircea_popescu, can you say when the April MOPE statement will be published?
16:58 ezdiy mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aURG-o7O-I
16:58 ezdiy this is yuzhe :)
16:58 mircea_popescu SlipperySlope yes, in a few hours
16:59 SlipperySlope many thanks!
16:59 mircea_popescu usually within a little of the last friday of the month ending
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
17:02 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+]
17:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.246999 BTC [+]
17:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.4649 = 6.0437 BTC [-]
17:04 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.101736 = 0.6104 BTC [+]
17:05 topace incase anyone is curious, i solved the IP address leak from emails problem i was talking about yesterday
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7899 BTC [+]
17:06 topace the soluttion, is, essentially to run your own mailserver, on a separate ip (that will be revealed publicly) and have it strip the appropriate headers out of the messages as they fly thorugh
17:06 topace i followed this post: http://www.stardothosting.com/blog/2010/07/remove-mail-headers-in-postfix-outgoing-mail/
17:06 topace worked like a c harm
17:06 topace charm
17:07 mircea_popescu sounds like a winner.
17:08 MJR_ ugh, otc is just such a scam fest
17:08 mircea_popescu kinda.
17:09 MJR_ its not worth the hassle
17:09 mircea_popescu i've not been there since
17:09 mircea_popescu o hey. since last april.
17:09 MJR_ birthday cake!
17:09 mircea_popescu 1 yr
17:10 kakobrekla hehe
17:10 kakobrekla
17:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.246999 = 2.494 BTC [+]
17:16 jcpham http://i.imgur.com/c5q3yfc.jpg
17:16 jcpham LOOK AT MY JEFE
17:17 jcpham he has the optional laser thermal vision
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7051 = 3.4102 BTC [-]
17:33 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1954004#msg1954004
17:33 kakobrekla O_o
17:34 kakobrekla all the fun happens on forums :(
17:36 MJR_ the coolest guys in Bitcoin Universe
17:37 jborkl when we start talking about mB?
17:37 MJR_ i don't know
17:37 MJR_ so far he is the only one i've seen do that
17:37 kakobrekla thats in the other room #bitcoin-massets
17:38 kakobrekla or #mbitcoin-assets
17:38 kakobrekla whatever is it.
17:38 jborkl or w\e it is- MPEX membership 30 milliion billion
17:38 KRS-1 #bitcoin-anal
17:38 kakobrekla im reading reptilas posts and numbers but i still cant figure out is he rich or poor?
17:39 KRS-1 EL JEFE
17:39 kakobrekla numbers are big
17:39 kakobrekla but the units are kinda small
17:39 kakobrekla %confused%
17:39 jborkl too confusing for me, I think he has 2.4 Bitcoins
17:39 jcpham what is this thread
17:39 jcpham i'm readin kakobrekla
17:39 kakobrekla hehe
17:39 jcpham i don't even
17:42 jcpham HOLY SHIT that guys running a 1.5 Class Supernode!
17:42 jborkl wtf does that even mean?
17:43 jcpham it's pretty badass
17:43 jcpham if you haven't been paying attention
17:43 jborkl I know what a class 1A Supernova is
17:43 jcpham i know you want to be better than him but you can't
17:43 jborkl but not a class 1.5 supernode
17:44 jcpham shrug
17:44 jborkl so is a class 1.2 supernode better or a class 1.7?
17:44 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1911371#msg1911371
17:45 ThickAsThieves i'm not sure if that helps explain or makes it worse
17:45 kakobrekla how did you not know this
17:45 kakobrekla are you completley uneducated?
17:45 kakobrekla its like.. basic stuff!
17:45 ThickAsThieves my impression is the guy is a car salesman
17:45 jcpham ahahaha
17:45 jcpham this is so good
17:45 jcpham where did you find this
17:45 ThickAsThieves he says all kindsa fancy things to impress idiots
17:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9176 @ 0.00070108 = 6.4331 BTC [+]
17:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10775 @ 0.00070158 = 7.5595 BTC [+]
17:46 ThickAsThieves in the hopes of selling them a lemon
17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7149 @ 0.00070497 = 5.0398 BTC [+]
17:46 jborkl That made it worse, made no sense
17:46 jborkl lol
17:46 jcpham and he donated to the forum
17:46 jcpham !
17:47 jcpham President etc. of Silvervault, Hopea.fi, EIH among others.
17:47 jcpham seriously "among others" is vain
17:47 jcpham i can pick apart a sentence
17:47 jcpham i like this guy
17:48 jborkl badge of scammer, donated to forum
17:48 MJR_ badge of scammer among others
17:49 jborkl Seeing $115 ever again seems unlikely to me.
17:49 jcpham could just be cultural differences
17:49 jborkl his quote
17:49 lippoper ;;bids 115
17:49 jborkl it hit that yesterday
17:49 gribble There are currently 33575.454 bitcoins demanded at or over 115.0 USD, worth 4106373.85398 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0059 seconds
17:49 jborkl lol
17:49 jcpham yeah we're one trade from $115 at all times
17:49 lippoper if you sell $4 million worht, it'll come up
17:49 jcpham one trade that sets off the rest of them
17:50 lippoper ;;market sell 33575
17:50 jcpham then gox gets ddosed
17:50 gribble A market order to sell 33575 bitcoins right now would net 4106321.6274 USD and would take the last price down to 115.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 122.3030 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 42.8787 seconds
17:50 jcpham then bitstamp closes
17:50 jborkl lets see if I have this correct
17:50 jcpham then bitinstant gets ddosd
17:50 jcpham easy $115
17:50 lippoper then another exchange shuts down
17:50 jcpham that's more like $50
17:50 jborkl sell a little at MTGOX, ddos MTGOX, then use the trollbox on btce
17:50 jcpham but whatever
17:50 jborkl $50 drop
17:51 jcpham yeah 6 of us can make 115 happen
17:51 jcpham if we put our heads together
17:51 lippoper you mean coins together
17:51 jcpham or that
17:51 jcpham he doesn't understand yet
17:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.4549 = 2.7294 BTC [-]
17:52 jborkl his class 1.5 superchoad does not rely on the network for price though..
17:53 kakobrekla supertoad is disqualified.
17:53 kakobrekla withdrawals depricated.
17:54 jborkl better upgrade to aa class 1.4 superchoad just to be sure
18:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4499 = 1.3497 BTC [-]
~ 15 minutes ~
18:18 jurov am back, had another interesting btc-related discussion irl with a forex trader... so hard to explain how things work there
18:18 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.247 = 2.494 BTC [+]
18:18 jurov hi ezdiy
18:19 jurov he was like "you should haste, large players will come and make mp do their bidding"
18:20 jurov when i explained my problems with mpex interface, why the development is so slow
18:21 jurov btw, expect options on coinbr to be frozen on opex for a while
18:21 ThickAsThieves k
~ 24 minutes ~
18:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2201 @ 0.00070497 = 1.5516 BTC [+]
18:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7 @ 0.00299999 = 0.021 BTC [+]
18:55 mircea_popescu my impression is the guy is a car salesman <<< lol that makes us 2
18:56 kakobrekla aww jurov you should send him to me
18:57 jurov i will. but he's also webdesigner, willing to help me
18:58 mircea_popescu forex trader slash web designer ?
18:58 mod6 ok wtf: https://twitter.com/maxkeiser/status/327879387292770305
18:59 mircea_popescu i got "sorry, this tweet is too retarded for you to read. twitter does not allow very retarded tweets be read."
18:59 mircea_popescu should i worry ?
18:59 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.246 = 2.492 BTC [-]
18:59 mod6 Price pegs never work -- why is that not clear to people, especially Max!?
18:59 Girlfawkesy I love the reply to him though.
19:00 mircea_popescu mod6 he's jealous that i pegged the bitcoin to the dollar at ~100
19:01 mod6 Heheheh.
19:01 mircea_popescu apparently went out of his "omg 400 500 1546975867"
19:01 jurov hes just trolling
19:02 mircea_popescu course the retards that follow him can't remember 15 days ago so it's all good.
19:02 mod6 I liked him better when he only mentioned Bitcoin once in a while.. when he got all "bitcoin jesus" on everyone I'm like, you're not helping, you're just pushing people into something they don't understand yet.
19:03 mod6 And now, price pegs for bitcoin???! Eff no. Bitcoin is the last bastion of economic freedom in the world.
19:03 jurov besides, it was already pegged to $5 some 9-10 months ago. but then pirate vanished.
19:03 jurov dunno if fed can do a better job than pirate
19:03 mod6 there isn't any reason that there should be a price peg for such a thing. And besides what would be the point of options on bitcoins if the price was pegged?
19:04 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1927 BTC [-]
19:04 mod6 i dont see the $5 level as a peg, it certainly wasn't stated anywhere, it was just suppression, and undervalued
19:05 jurov jkjk
19:05 kakobrekla you know that scam movie 'the secret'
19:05 kakobrekla let me tell you, its the other way around
19:05 mod6 haha, no. but, lol
19:05 mod6 smh
19:05 jurov but it would be really fanny for bernanke to have to calm markets when gox lag happens
19:05 kakobrekla when you want fiat there is none, but when you got too much they throw it in your face
19:07 jurov btw, did oprah endorse btc already?
19:07 kakobrekla no, that was dr. phil
19:08 ThickAsThieves she's still waiting for blockchain sync
19:08 jurov i heard she has serious whales in audience
19:08 kakobrekla lol
19:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45199 @ 0.00070749 = 31.9778 BTC [+]
19:09 mircea_popescu im holding out for roger and cunty lee
19:10 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [+]
19:11 Girlfawkesy lol @ thick
19:11 mod6 anyway, just had to come in here and vent a bit about this stuff.
19:11 mircea_popescu lol jurov
19:12 mircea_popescu btw, if anyone doesn't know Girlfawkesy, she's an actual girl. send her all your btc.
19:12 ThickAsThieves what does she pay in in divs?
19:12 mod6 I mean, if anything, why not just peg like 1 satoshi to a certain unit of gold? Then it would have a sudo-peg via gold, correct?
19:12 jurov did she qualify in topless?
19:12 ThickAsThieves the peg idea is so moronic I bet we couldnt have come up with it if we were trying to be morons
19:12 kakobrekla im wondering why is there no MaxCoin yet
19:13 mircea_popescu kakobrekla he hasn't figured out the fork yet.
19:13 mircea_popescu still working on spoon
19:13 kakobrekla lol
19:13 mod6 ThickAsThieves: ok thank you. I was feeling pretty stupified for a few minutes there.
19:13 Girlfawkesy <~~~ actual vagina
19:13 mircea_popescu ;;google pegging
19:13 mod6 lol still working on spoon
19:13 gribble Pegging (sexual practice) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Pegging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; If You Want a More Thoughtful Boyfriend, Try Pegging Him - Jezebel:
19:13 mircea_popescu there. pegging. a sexual practice.
19:13 mircea_popescu ginger up max's ass
19:14 Girlfawkesy Actually, I was thinking about making a pegging set, but I dunno how thrilling that would be for you boys
19:14 jurov mod6 satoshi's already practically pegged to some miliwatt or microwatt anyway
19:14 mod6 jurov: ahh, hmm.
19:14 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2466 BTC [+]
19:15 ThickAsThieves but elec cost is variable too
19:15 mod6 I like the idea of only supply/demand governing the price, btc needs natural price signals.
19:15 ThickAsThieves maybe we can peg it to untapped vagina inches?
19:16 ThickAsThieves or centimters if you prefer
19:16 jurov stfu ThickAsThieves with your imperial units
19:16 ThickAsThieves ^
19:16 ThickAsThieves :)
19:16 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00281 BTC [+]
19:16 GirlfawkesyBTC Use black vaginas and not asian vaginas
19:16 GirlfawkesyBTC they're deeper
19:16 jurov mp already presciently did the calculations on trilema
19:17 jurov he'll prolly announce derivatives any moment
19:17 GirlfawkesyBTC And MP, you were right, I forgot how much better a proper irc client is than the stupid webchat.
19:17 mircea_popescu you're welcum
19:17 ThickAsThieves [17:16] Use black vaginas and not asian vaginas <--- no one likes colored coins tho
19:17 mircea_popescu bwahaha
19:17 GirlfawkesyBTC lol
19:18 kakobrekla connection overload
19:18 mircea_popescu pff selfowned
19:20 ThickAsThieves i tell my rackspace cloud manager to fix permissions on one folder and i get a wall of text about FACLs :(
19:24 mod6 (14:01) < jurov> hes just trolling << i guess this could be true.
19:25 mod6 people are so clueless about finance though, that you'd think that he'd try to stay more serious about the subject.
19:25 mircea_popescu ;;tcker
19:25 gribble Error: "tcker" is not a valid command.
19:25 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
19:25 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 136.30001, Best ask: 136.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29999, Last trade: 136.60000, 24 hour volume: 168982.74808586, 24 hour low: 121.45164, 24 hour high: 149.87970, 24 hour vwap: 134.31450
19:26 mod6 ;;bc,stats
19:26 gribble Current Blocks: 233309 | Current Difficulty: 8974296.01488785 | Next Difficulty At Block: 233855 | Next Difficulty In: 546 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 2 hours, 52 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9981977.43545 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.22853
19:26 mod6 wow 11.22853
19:27 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
19:27 gribble 76784.2992817
19:27 ThickAsThieves not bad
19:28 ThickAsThieves mp, will options be a lil less timid to volatility next session?
19:29 mircea_popescu indeed.
19:29 ThickAsThieves cool cool
19:29 mircea_popescu actually pilot new model should be coming online soonish
19:30 kakobrekla but now btc will be 137 foreva
19:31 kakobrekla pegged.
19:32 jurov like "what if 137 is the new 5?"
19:33 GirlfawkesyBTC until the next major country to undergo economic collapse...
19:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1925 BTC [-]
19:33 kakobrekla who is next on the list, somalia?
19:34 GirlfawkesyBTC Spain isnt looking well these days
19:34 jurov how can somalia further collapse?
19:34 kakobrekla jurov my somalia.
19:35 jurov oh at least slovakia can't collapse. cuz slovak banks all collapsed long ago, all we have are foreign subsidiaries
19:36 jurov no stock market in bratislava, either
19:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4257 = 1.7028 BTC [-]
19:36 kakobrekla ;;ticker h vtx
19:36 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
19:36 kakobrekla !ticker h vtx
19:36 assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.40070002 / 0.4458272 / 0.48249899 (224 shares, 99.86529265 BTC), 7D: 0.36100100 / 0.45177942 / 0.49750000 (1178 shares, 532.19615862 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.40389269 / 0.61488800 (6234 shares, 2517.86702390 BTC)
19:37 mircea_popescu
19:37 kakobrekla vtx is kinda funny
19:37 kakobrekla trading allover the place
19:38 jurov and MPBPT closed at 0.098 (nominal value is 0.1) and no bids anymore... quite chilling mkt anticipation
19:38 KRS1 slovakia is NOT somalia
19:38 kakobrekla too late nao!
19:38 mircea_popescu KRS1 stop scamming us. we know.
19:38 KRS1 ok..
19:39 jurov krs1 is not scammer, just being anal
19:40 jurov dunno, should i try to place 0.07 bid for mpbpt and cause panic?
19:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4261 BTC [+]
19:43 mod6 (14:32) < jurov> like "what if 137 is the new 5?" << http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u499x/
19:43 mod6 :D
19:44 jurov mod6 thx had exactly that in mind...throwing it to -otc
19:45 jurov should have thought about that mpbpt panic yesterday...i'm so slow recently
19:46 jurov also vat report was due yesterday, fck that...
19:46 mod6 (14:44) < jurov> mod6 thx had exactly that in mind...throwing it to -otc << haha nice.
19:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4599 BTC [+]
19:47 jurov so, you can expect coinbr to get seized by slovak tax office over vat not due in time :/
19:47 mod6 no wai?
19:47 mod6 wtf is vat?
19:48 mircea_popescu drama added taxc
19:48 jurov ^ yea. socialist yurp stuff
19:48 GirlfawkesyBTC value added tax
19:48 mod6 oh value added ta
19:48 mod6 *tax
19:49 GirlfawkesyBTC bullshit compound tax
19:49 jurov i'm gonna have llc with external accounting, looking forward to it
19:49 jurov then, blow & hookers
19:49 GirlfawkesyBTC sigh...when am I going to get all my hookers?
19:50 mod6 hopefully soon.
19:50 mod6 jurov: but coinbr will live on, just a different structure 'eh
19:51 thestringpuller wait coinbr is down?
19:51 thestringpuller waaaat?
19:51 jurov no, i'm jking
19:51 jurov you can't access it?
19:52 thestringpuller no I misunderstood
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4499 = 1.7996 BTC [-]
19:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7051 BTC [-]
19:55 jurov it's normal to be a bit late with tax declaration, no criminal stuff
19:55 jurov plus i don't have anything to declare recently anyway
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.7997 = 5.3991 BTC [+]
19:57 mod6 well good deal. Sail strong Coinbr!
19:59 jurov i should kick myself every time i'm thinking of such dangerous jokes
20:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4449 BTC [-]
20:06 GirlfawkesyBTC As a side note, thank you to everyone who has been politely educating me today. I've been away from btc for awhile, and before I throw myself into coinbr or other trading I'd like to feel rather competent.
20:08 jurov "Before I throw myself into ... I'd like to feel rather competent." <<< I'm gonna to use this, thx
20:08 tiberiusiv ;;bids 50
20:08 gribble There are currently 168990.8 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 14632147.5237 USD in total. | Data vintage: 70.0259 seconds
20:08 tiberiusiv ;;asks 200
20:08 gribble There are currently 69365.632 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 11722826.2462 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.9878 seconds
20:15 GirlfawkesyBTC I'm guessing thats something not many people do?
20:18 benkay GirlfawkesyBTC do you plan to trade actively?
20:21 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+]
20:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.7051 BTC [-]
20:24 kakobrekla take that as a no.
20:26 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.237 BTC [+]
20:27 mircea_popescu GBBG is MUCH MORE then the fund. The fund was started exclusively for members to give them something extra before the core GBBG product is released. The core product has been in development for more than 10 years.
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.24 = 12.4 BTC [+]
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24699 BTC [+]
20:28 kakobrekla the what
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.247 = 3.741 BTC [+]
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2479 BTC [+]
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.248 = 3.744 BTC [+]
20:28 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.249 BTC [+]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.25 = 3.75 BTC [+]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.258 = 12.58 BTC [+]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2879 BTC [+]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.288 = 6.44 BTC [+]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.289 BTC [+]
20:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.29 = 12.9 BTC [+]
20:32 mircea_popescu yes.
20:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.299 = 9.093 BTC [+]
20:33 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.299 BTC [+]
20:34 ThickAsThieves when asicminer said they would put 12-15TH online some month(s) ago, the price rose from .6 to .9, now that they are actually doing it, it goes from .9 to 1.3
20:34 mircea_popescu cool story huh.
20:35 ThickAsThieves i wonder how much a truly pro btc co would fetch
20:36 ThickAsThieves at 1.3, isn't it gonna take like a year or something to get that much in divs?
20:37 mircea_popescu shhhh
20:37 ThickAsThieves price will keep going up, no worries!
20:38 ThickAsThieves in 3mos we'll have people saying "yeah but in USD we're still up!"
20:38 mircea_popescu i'm sorta preparing a bucket of lulz for the first contractual dispute which won't be resolvable for lack of an actual contract.
20:39 ThickAsThieves like how some of the shares were unsold?
20:39 ThickAsThieves are*
20:39 mircea_popescu i have no idea what'll it be, but...
20:39 mircea_popescu the entire thing has a lot of promise baked in
20:47 mircea_popescu http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/26/technology/security/livingsocial-hack/index.html lol
20:48 joecool they are very fucked lol
20:48 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
20:48 joecool http://www.businessinsider.com/livingsocial-may-have-taken-debt-2013-2
20:50 mircea_popescu o wow had no idea
20:51 jurov $avg
20:51 mpexbot jurov: 132.26
~ 15 minutes ~
21:07 SlipperySlope mircea_popescu, will you please mention something here when the April MPOE statement is posted on Trilema?
21:07 mircea_popescu i always do.
21:09 jurov please also mention the vwap used. i always forget to check it at the opex time :/
21:10 mircea_popescu you'll have to be dilligent :D
21:11 troc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1955352#msg1955352
21:12 jcpham yeah mircea_popescu
21:12 mircea_popescu yeah yeah. everyone wants mpex to be an information platform
21:13 troc 3FTE on SD now !
21:13 mircea_popescu because blogs forums and news sites + email skype and whatever aren't enough
21:13 mircea_popescu i should compete with twitter and facebook, since this is what you do on the internet.
21:13 jcpham it's funny coming froma guy who basically doesn't run a site with any rel backend
21:13 jcpham asking you to run one so he can send messages
21:14 jcpham amirite cuz SD could you know register accounts and run a db and NOT USE the blockchain
21:14 mircea_popescu i think they're planning to have sessions next.
21:14 jcpham
21:19 jurov i have posted better solution for erik
21:19 jcpham https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=174620.msg1955543#msg1955543
21:19 jcpham mostly that though
21:23 assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]
21:24 mircea_popescu i'm currently only operating a sub-level sector 8.3 bitcoin meganode.
21:24 mircea_popescu lmao
21:25 mircea_popescu jurov i srsly don'ty understand why that forum thread isn't good.
21:25 mircea_popescu everyone already knows to watch it
21:26 jurov ? no i was talking about s.dice thread
21:27 troc aren't sessions are too late to benefit of blockchain spam. SD proportion of transactions is going down. perhaps sessions to increase site stickyness
21:29 taub Max Keiser gone full clown mode when sugggesting to peg bitcoin to dollar
21:29 taub he doesnt know how the currency works at all
21:30 jurov trying furiously to increase stickyness
21:30 troc ok good
21:45 jurov $avg
21:45 mpexbot jurov: 131.83
~ 15 minutes ~
22:00 jurov $avg
22:00 mpexbot jurov: 131.83
22:01 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2689 BTC [+]
22:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.478 = 0.956 BTC [+]
22:09 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.269 = 2.538 BTC [+]
22:11 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00326 BTC [+]
22:12 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00327 = 0.1962 BTC [+]
22:13 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003332 = 0.1666 BTC [+]
22:18 assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.003333 = 0.0833 BTC [+]
22:29 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.281 BTC [+]
22:37 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.248 BTC [-]
22:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2401 BTC [-]
22:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
22:39 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
~ 15 minutes ~
22:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [-]
22:59 jurov $avg
22:59 mpexbot jurov: 131.69
22:59 mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpoe-april-2013-statement/
22:59 mircea_popescu there we go.
22:59 mircea_popescu SlipperySlope ^
23:01 jurov *sigh* -36%
23:03 mircea_popescu myeah.
23:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4501 = 1.3503 BTC [-]
23:05 tiberiusiv lol.
23:05 tiberiusiv another loss for mpoe
23:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00070663 = 8.4796 BTC [-]
23:13 pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: I had some BTC deposited as surety for some old options contracts at $75, but it doesn't seem like I got it back
23:14 pizzaman1337 for O.BTCUSD.P750T options (old ones)
23:15 mircea_popescu well ?
23:15 mircea_popescu p750t is way underwater.
23:15 mircea_popescu $avg
23:15 mpexbot mircea_popescu: 131.45
23:15 pizzaman1337 ah, yeah
23:15 pizzaman1337 nvm
23:15 pizzaman1337 duh
23:22 mircea_popescu ;;ident pizzaman1337
23:22 gribble Nick 'pizzaman1337', with hostmask 'pizzaman1337!~pizzaman1@unaffiliated/pizzaman1337', is not identified.
23:23 pizzaman1337 ;;gpg eauth pizzaman1337
23:23 gribble Request successful for user pizzaman1337, hostmask pizzaman1337!~pizzaman1@unaffiliated/pizzaman1337. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/48BBF68A41783DF8
23:24 pizzaman1337 gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7e3f4363cef5553236faced3a80f1cbaefc58c06ccd1cb0fd70516d1
23:24 pizzaman1337 ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7e3f4363cef5553236faced3a80f1cbaefc58c06ccd1cb0fd70516d1
23:24 gribble You are now authenticated for user pizzaman1337 with key 48BBF68A41783DF8
23:28 jurov mpoe bot not online yet?
23:28 mircea_popescu was a second ago
23:29 jurov it's perhaps more timid now :)
23:31 mircea_popescu lol
23:31 mircea_popescu perhaps connectivity issues to blockcharts
23:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4619 = 1.8476 BTC [+]
23:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2797 BTC [+]
23:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2798 BTC [+]
23:39 pizzaman1337 ah yeah, looks like the spread for the bot dropped a ton: http://i.imgur.com/P5aQ53K.png
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.4619 = 1.8476 BTC [+]
21:34 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2797 BTC [+]
21:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2798 BTC [+]
21:39 pizzaman1337 ah yeah, looks like the spread for the bot dropped a ton: http://i.imgur.com/P5aQ53K.png
21:40 mircea_popescu nice graph pizzaman1337
21:40 pizzaman1337 thanks, I need to make a public site for these
21:41 mircea_popescu srsly.
21:41 mircea_popescu i find it pretty incredible that nobody moved into the midmarket during these ~2 weeks
21:42 jurov they had better things to do with bitcoins than having them stuck as cover?
21:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2797 BTC [-]
21:42 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.28 = 5.12 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.287 = 2.574 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.288 = 2.576 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.288 = 3.864 BTC [+]
21:48 Diablo-D3 ;;ticker
21:48 gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 135.45606, Best ask: 136.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.54394, Last trade: 136.00000, 24 hour volume: 122987.25837791, 24 hour low: 121.45164, 24 hour high: 139.49743, 24 hour vwap: 131.92260
21:49 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.288 BTC [+]
21:53 assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.198299 BTC [+]
21:54 jurov bitcoincharts down indeed
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2471 BTC [-]
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.247 BTC [-]
21:55 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.245 BTC [-]
22:00 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.26 BTC [+]
22:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
22:03 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.24 = 3.72 BTC [-]
22:07 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.28799 BTC [+]
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4571 BTC [-]
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4571 BTC [-]
22:18 assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.40603 BTC [+]
22:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4581 BTC [+]
22:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2401 BTC [-]
22:30 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-]
22:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231 BTC [-]
22:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
22:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [-]
22:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21 BTC [-]
22:31 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-]
~ 16 minutes ~
22:47 KRS1 whats your prediction diablo
22:54 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+]
22:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 94% of MPEx April revenue from reg fees?
22:56 mircea_popescu something like that
22:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: raise it to 1000 BTC, you could be in the black!
22:56 mircea_popescu lol
22:56 mircea_popescu after march a lot of people perked up.
22:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps your sales fee is too low?
23:00 ThickAsThieves that might be shortsighted
23:00 joecool mircea_popescu: dare i ask? do you give mpex registration discounts to OTC members?
23:00 mircea_popescu joecool you mean wot ?
23:00 joecool yes
23:01 mircea_popescu i do, if you mention someone;'s key that's already registered you each get 5btc
23:02 joecool regged on both mpex and wot?
23:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4364 @ 0.0007011 = 3.0596 BTC [-]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2779 BTC [+]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.278 = 2.556 BTC [+]
23:02 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.28 = 2.56 BTC [+]
23:03 mircea_popescu just mpex.
23:03 joecool oh, then mircea_popescu
~ 17 minutes ~
23:21 jcpham basically the guy revealed his postion on bitcoinica
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.468 = 2.34 BTC [+]
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.47 = 2.35 BTC [+]
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.477999 = 1.434 BTC [+]
23:21 jcpham and several people just went the other way with sufficient funding and he was force liquidated
23:21 ThickAsThieves mp, link?
23:21 jcpham because that's how bitcoinica worked
23:21 asciilifeform jcpham: ok, that makes sense
23:22 mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/27/technology/internet-sales-tax-coming-too-late-for-some-stores.html?_r=0
23:22 jcpham yeah a channel full of guys playing games on bitcoinica is not someone you wanna share info like this with
23:23 jcpham somewhere
23:23 jcpham damn 10:1 leverage at that
23:24 joeykrim mircea_popescu, i wrote my congress ppl to not pass that :x
23:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: The linked article suggests that the tax only applies to ebay sellers who gross over $1M
23:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but yeah, the buraucrats "do what they must, because they can."
23:25 asciilifeform *bureaucrats
23:26 ThickAsThieves amazon is also having trouble eeking out good profits no?
23:28 joecool it did take them like a decade to become profitable though
23:31 asciilifeform speaking of idiot passwords, it looks like people have taken to "mining" brainwallets - with results.
23:31 jcpham seems like i've seen that on reddit and elsewhere
23:32 jcpham doesn't surprise me
23:32 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2718 BTC [-]
23:32 asciilifeform wonder what the biggest brainmining find so far was
23:35 jcpham https://sites.google.com/site/hannahlogo/screen-shots-4
23:35 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no., they grew 22%
23:35 jcpham lots of gold on that site about bitcoinica
23:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the mining brainwallets is real old news.
23:36 mircea_popescu joeykrim they don't listen so well do they.
23:37 jcpham that guys entire holding are detailed there jeez
23:37 ThickAsThieves personally, i feel that amazon does to little branding
23:37 ThickAsThieves too*
23:38 ThickAsThieves they are not properly protecting what they are forgoing so much profit for
23:38 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
23:38 jcpham https://plus.google.com/100386605739064901646/posts/FSb5J3m9rxz
23:39 jcpham i'm so boss
23:39 jcpham http://i.imgur.com/mbAEE.png
23:40 jcpham https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=59969.0;all
23:40 jcpham boom
23:41 mircea_popescu haha wd
23:41 jcpham this is exactly where the phrase zhoutonged originated
23:41 jcpham know your bitcoin
23:41 jcpham all of this lore laid out for you
23:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: I missed the brainmining thing when it started, and found out about it by sheer accident - ran across some published code which lets even idiots try their hand at it, while looking for something else
23:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i recall someone pointing out hashing god yields some btc years ago
23:43 mircea_popescu jcpham totally.
23:45 joeykrim mircea_popescu, lol .. no they sure dont
23:45 jcpham also realize some of those thread commenters are pirate lenders
23:45 jcpham oooh plot thickens
23:45 jcpham let's write a novel
23:46 mircea_popescu he thinks he can get away from this crime!!!!
23:47 jcpham Who were interested in this liquidation? nobody would buy 20 000BTC just for fun, and nobody could get profit from this trade except..... right.. bitcoinica.
23:47 jcpham epic last words
23:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4601 BTC [-]
23:48 jcpham except he goes on to say "I am 7 years in trading, I know who make profits and how."
23:48 mircea_popescu jcpham his argument that zhou was bucketshopping is convincing on the face
23:49 mircea_popescu it's also supported by ulterior email leaks etc.
23:49 jcpham oh i'm not saying he wasn't
23:49 jcpham it's awesome how zhoutong chimes in after his customer just got force liquidated like nothing happened
23:50 jcpham when at the tim 85% of mtgox's volume was bitcoinica
23:50 jcpham so a trade gox is all it took
23:50 jcpham isn't that wild?
23:50 joecool it was that high from bitcoinica?
23:51 jcpham right?
23:51 jcpham know your bitcoin
23:51 mircea_popescu A crime how, exactly? You do know what a bucket shop is, right? And you know why they aren't allowed in a regulated market?
23:51 mircea_popescu Will the internet investigate? Where will he be jailed, or do you plan to have him digitized and encrypted in a flash drive?
23:51 mircea_popescu totally.
23:51 joecool jcpham: i know the bitcoin i lost in bitcoinica
23:51 joecool that i never actually traded with
23:51 jcpham dawww
23:51 joecool lol
23:51 joecool i put coin in like 2 days before shit went to hell
23:51 jcpham i lost some usd i think but not enough to care about
23:51 joecool i lost enough to sting a pretty good bit
23:52 jcpham my condolences. bitcoinica and gox ran each other for a time
23:53 mircea_popescu ACHTUNG! Alles touristen und non-technischen looken peepers!
23:53 mircea_popescu Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is allowed for die experts only!
23:53 mircea_popescu So relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights!
23:54 jcpham i remember now why i remember that event
23:54 jcpham tis a memorable one
23:54 ThickAsThieves so many scammer tags in that thread
23:54 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: I once heard of a mutilated-English version of this warning, that hung in German machine rooms.
23:54 jcpham it's like a who's who
23:55 jcpham even the JRO ringcoin guy
23:55 jcpham where is kronos.io
23:55 jcpham there's more scandal
23:55 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves noticeably jrowens doesn't have one
23:55 jcpham that whole thread exposes a seedy core
23:55 mircea_popescu about half the scammers in there are tagged.
23:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.3 = 3.6 BTC [-]
23:56 assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [-]
23:56 jcpham because for me it happened realtime in #bitcoin and #bitcoin-otc
23:57 thestringpuller ;;asks 138
23:57 gribble There are currently 326.79324 bitcoins offered at or under 138.0 USD, worth 45081.833772 USD in total. | Data vintage: 61.8149 seconds
23:58 thestringpuller ;;bids 135
23:58 gribble There are currently 1524.0918 bitcoins demanded at or over 135.0 USD, worth 206359.098706 USD in total. | Data vintage: 69.7801 seconds
23:58 mircea_popescu "Trading what? Most traders I know don't know shit about trading something as volatile as this. Reading through, people appear to not understand how futures and options work, and now they are learning, are annoyed at their own ignorance."
23:58 mircea_popescu this from... wait for it... harnett.
23:58 mircea_popescu indeed lulzmine that thread jcpham
23:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 636 @ 0.0007011 = 0.4459 BTC [-]
23:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00069846 = 2.0954 BTC [-]
23:58 thestringpuller lol harnett
23:58 thestringpuller How many coins did Harnett lose?
23:58 thestringpuller "Starfish Bank" lolol
23:59 jcpham just document and wait for the right moment to link someone to it
23:59 thestringpuller ;;asks 139
23:59 gribble There are currently 2311.797 bitcoins offered at or under 139.0 USD, worth 320766.335481 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0035 seconds
23:59 jcpham there's people out there that need ot read it i'm sure
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