| 15:12 |
PDogJr |
asciilifeform: yes I read the channel's subject and I said hello, what more do you want? |
| 15:12 |
PDogJr |
I'm not in front of my irc client 24/7 so I can't be around to respond to you the second you ask a question before banning because you think random verified people on freenode are logging your channel |
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| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: on what planet is this an adequate response to 'please introduce yourself' ? |
| 16:03 |
snsabot |
(asciilifeform) 2021-02-14 PDogJr: sup |
| 16:06 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: anyways i removed you from spamlist. plz give proper intro in #a ( example, e.g. http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-25#1020425 -- who, roughly, are you ? why interested in $chan ? where found it? etc ) at your leisure. |
| 16:06 |
snsabot |
(asciilifeform) 2020-08-25 cgra: hi all, i've been a reader of anything tmsr related, is why i knew of this channel. i came here, because i might have something useful to say re trb sync issue. |
| 16:07 |
asciilifeform |
( or not, as you wish ) |
| 16:09 |
asciilifeform |
ftr i don't give a fuck re 'people logging the channel'. the log is public, on www. and anyone who had read the chan subj, knows this. |
| 16:12 |
PDogJr |
why are you so concerned about who wanders into your public channel? obviously people find your blog and they might be curious so naturally they stop by |
| 16:12 |
PDogJr |
asking people to write their life story when joining an irc channel is a bit ridiculous |
| 16:12 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: spam problems in the past. incl. bots logging join/parts and targeted ddos. |
| 16:12 |
PDogJr |
so do spam bots normally join and ask what's up? |
| 16:13 |
asciilifeform |
they have. not so hard to plug an eliza into irc |
| 16:13 |
PDogJr |
when was this? 20 years ago when irc was still relevant or you do actually have a frequent issue with spam bots ddosing you? |
| 16:14 |
asciilifeform |
as recently as '19. |
| 16:14 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: i can't resist to ask: whatcha doing w/ irc, if 'last relevant 20y ago' ? |
| 16:15 |
PDogJr |
because I've been on here my whole life and I have a few friends on here with whom I keep in contact |
| 16:15 |
PDogJr |
but I also realize that it's a dying protocol and I don't take it seriously enough to ban verified people who stop by my channel out of curiosity |
| 16:16 |
PDogJr |
especially because they simply said hello instead of submitting an autobiography |
| 16:16 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: i'm satisfied that you aint a spambot. if you have comments meant for #a, yer welcome to join. (or if only want to lurk, can read log, it is public on www.) |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: don't need autobio. most recent visitor, for instance was 'i'm from finland, and i'm here via loper-os.org'. |
| 16:18 |
PDogJr |
some people prefer not broadcasting their personal information to the web especially when it's explicitly logged and put in the public domain |
| 16:19 |
asciilifeform |
above example contains 'personal info' ? |
| 16:19 |
PDogJr |
a human interaction is "hello," "hello and welcome, what brings you here?" and then giving more than 3 seconds for someone to respond, understanding that some of us use bouncers and aren't in front of a computer 24 hours a day |
| 16:20 |
PDogJr |
yeah unless your definition of personal info excludes geographic location |
| 16:20 |
asciilifeform |
that is not a human interaction. a 'hello' does not allow to distinguish the 'helloer' from simple bot. |
| 16:20 |
PDogJr |
right, which is why you respond and then give the other individual more than 3 seconds to respond back |
| 16:21 |
asciilifeform |
evidently we disagree re what satisfies 'are asked to introduce themselves'. |
| 16:23 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: outta curiosity, how would you react if some fellow in a mask knocked on your front door at night and in the morning still there, and when asked why, wouldn't answer ? |
| 16:25 |
PDogJr |
I would first consider the absolute stupidity in trying to draw an analogy between irc+the use of a bouncer and a real life intruder doing something socially unacceptable and threatening |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
for somebody who used irc 'whole life' and has whom 'keep in contact' w/ it, seem rather unfamiliar with the norms. or, PDogJr , didja hang out in those heathen pits where 9000 users and no one knows/gives a damn who is who |
| 16:26 |
PDogJr |
if I failed to realize the stupidity in drawing that kind of parallel, I would then consider that maybe I take my irc channel a bit too seriously |
| 16:30 |
asciilifeform |
anyways this is off-t. for #s, PDogJr if you have something of substance for me or the other folx in #a, plz go there. |