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02:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=10mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (151h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
02:00 auctionbot --- end of auction list, 10mn total bids ---
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02:53 BingoBoingo mod6: As you go through the statement think about how you would like the tangibles liquidated. Tomorrow I will propose a set of auctions. Think about how you want things priced, you are the majority shareholder.
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07:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=10mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (146h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
07:00 auctionbot --- end of auction list, 10mn total bids ---
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12:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=10mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (141h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
12:00 auctionbot --- end of auction list, 10mn total bids ---
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15:40 mod6 hey there
15:40 BingoBoingo Hello
15:41 mod6 Saw your message earlier this am. Been thinking about it.
15:41 mod6 So one of the troubles that I forsee, and maybe you do as well, is this whole shipping problem.
15:42 mod6 If someone were to win an auction, it looks like there's a definite high probability that the shit will just disappear.
15:42 mod6 Or am I worrying to much about that?
15:42 BingoBoingo mod6: Aite, I'll have the auction proposal ready in a few hours. But yes, the shipping is a problem. Disappearing is less of a problem when paying ~700-ish USD to ship
15:42 mod6 That too.
15:44 mod6 I don't believe that the shipping should be included in the auction price. It should be plainly stated that if one wins an aution, or maybe even serveral (?), they could bundle all of their items together and ship that way?
15:44 mod6 Basically, are you going to arrange shipping with each auction winner after the fact?
15:45 BingoBoingo mod6: Shipping can't be included in the auction price. Auction winners are going to have to work out how they pick things up or get them shipped with the knowledge of the 700-ish estimate per 1U server.
15:45 mod6 *nod*
15:45 mod6 Makes sense.
15:45 BingoBoingo FUCKGOATS however will very likely be cheap to ship
15:46 mod6 Now it sounds like... what you wanted from me was some pricing for the auction of unused SSDs, the one 'lightly used' SSD, and the FGs. Correct?
15:46 BingoBoingo I want to set the resere price the auctions open at, at a level that reflects what I think I could sell the things at locally in a hurry. Or what I am willing to pay to own thing.
15:46 BingoBoingo And the initial price of the particular auction will function as my bid.
15:47 mod6 This sounds fine. One sec. I'm trying to dig up some prices on these SSDs.
15:47 BingoBoingo Right now, I want you to be thinking about this so you can weigh in when the auctions with their batching of things and their prices are up.
15:49 mod6 Ok, hang tight. I've got about an hour to discuss here before I have to leave to a dr appt. Should be available most of the afternoon though.
15:50 BingoBoingo Aite, let the doctor check you up well.
15:51 BingoBoingo I just want to make sure you aren't surprised by the auction structure and possible outcomes.
15:53 mod6 Oh no, I appreciate that indeed BB.
15:54 BingoBoingo Such as, if no one beats my opening/reserve bid on an item of lot of items, I throw Bitcoin into the kitty you and asciilifeform are splitting and then I have the items in my pile.
15:54 mod6 Ok, so before we dive into some pricings... let's touch on the 'batching of things' a bit.
15:54 mod6 oh, i see.
15:54 mod6 So, we're the buyers of last resort 'eh.
15:55 mod6 ?
15:55 BingoBoingo Well, with the proposal... It'll be a proposal. You and asciilifeform can weigh in.
15:55 BingoBoingo <mod6> So, we're the buyers of last resort 'eh. << I'll be the buyer of last resort.
15:55 mod6 Well, ok, I mean alf and myself as it's our pile to split that'll be used? Or is that not correct?
15:56 BingoBoingo Most things, like the 1U servers I plan to price on the basis of "Holy shit, I have to be in Panama City by Sunday morning"
15:57 BingoBoingo mod6: I mean I'll be paying into that pile that you and asciilifeform get paid out of. Either of you can instead propose you'de prefer to back the reserve of an item's auction instead if you think the item is worth more to you. Or you can bid on the items.
15:57 BingoBoingo So things that don't sell will involve a tranfer of coin from me to you and asciilifeform.
15:57 * mod6 reads
15:58 mod6 Hmm. Are you ok with this in the event that nothing sells?
15:59 BingoBoingo mod6: It'll influence the way I price things.
15:59 mod6 Fair enough.
16:00 mod6 Here's another question for you, regarding the auctions: Since there are, for instance, 28 FGs to sell, are you going to sell all 28 in one auction? Or two groups of 14? Or eight individual auctions for 1 FG each, than say, two groups of ten?
16:01 mod6 (Just thinking that one may want to buy one, another guy might want 10. Kinda depends on the bidder. Might get more bites if we have some small groups, and some larger. Same thinking may apply to the disks.)
16:01 BingoBoingo That is something I am weighing. I am inclined to batch things like the FG into groups of 5 and then another auction for the remainder.
16:01 mod6 Ah, I see.
16:03 mod6 In interest of time, it might be good to start with two auctions there (initial reserve pricing might be a bit of a discount for buying more than one at a time): 1 FG for X, group of 5 for X-slight_discount_of_reserve_for_bulk ?
16:03 mod6 Then if those both have takers, can just do it again once auctions are closed out. *shrug* Just throwing some ideas out here.
16:04 mod6 *ahem* (X-slight_discount_of_reserve_for_bulk)*5
16:04 BingoBoingo ty, I'll weigh the idea as I'm putting things together. My big concern is structuring the auctions in a way that offers finality.
16:06 mod6 Well all auctions are final. If you have the winning bid, you get the stuff provided you can pay for the shipping. Which is a separate concern. Perhaps there's a disclaimer on these auctions. Something along the lines of: By participating in the Piz auction you will, on your honor, agree to the local shipping rates to where ever these need to be shipped.
16:06 mod6 And perhaps you can also provide some very rough estimates on those rates to several locations. i.e. Rate to US, EU, SA, RU... something.
16:08 mod6 Plz say if I'm not making sense.
16:08 mod6 (I do get that any shipping estimate is by weight, not only destination.)
16:08 BingoBoingo The problem with even very rough shipping estimates is the pricing of shipping providers is very opaque
16:09 mod6 This may get more complicated if someone wins an auction on a server, AND something ligher weight such as a disk and an fg that would be shipped ~together~.
16:11 mod6 Ok, I'm with you. Even if you can't provide 'very rough estimates'. Might just be worth stating somewhere that 'can very well be substancial depending on how much you need shipped and to where; you undertake this risk in participating in the acution.'
16:11 BingoBoingo Nah, they'd be shipped in different boxes. The 1U would kill the FUCKGOATS
16:11 mod6 *nod*
16:11 mod6 Ok.
16:12 mod6 So, one thing I did here quick is look up the costs of the ~new~ Samsung 1Tb SSDs... now I think we certainly paid more for these whenever we bought them. But now they sell for $120 ea. on shitazon.
16:13 BingoBoingo Right, new SSD prices fall quickly
16:13 mod6 Ya. I think we paid quite a lot more for them. I don't remember exactly how much, but I wanna say it might have even been $200.
16:14 mod6 But off the cuff, I'd like to think we could at least start the bidding at maybe even as much as 75% off.
16:14 BingoBoingo That's about where a TB of SSD had been sitting for a while.
16:14 mod6 Maybe that's a bit too deep of a discount, but we do want them to move.
16:15 BingoBoingo mod6: The thing about the unused SSDs is that those CAN be quickly moved in the local market.
16:15 mod6 Ah, ok, that's good to know. Are they selling for anywhere near the $120 rate locally?)
16:16 BingoBoingo More. I am inclined to open them at the Amazon prices and either myself or asciilifeform since he's planning a trip here will likely end up with some split of them.
16:17 mod6 Oooh. Alrighty then. I'd say use your best judgement on that then. I had no idea.
16:18 mod6 (Including on the used one, which, of course should be offered at some sort of discount to new ones.)
16:18 mod6 But moving on the FGs...
16:18 mod6 I do not exactly recall the pricing at which they were originally listed by nsl's store. That was quite some time ago, and the BTC/USD price was much different then.
16:19 BingoBoingo I know of little local market for such things. They will have a low reserve price.
16:19 mod6 I don't even recall how much I paid for one in USD terms either.
16:19 mod6 Let me see if I can dig quick here before I have to run. I'll try to find some old historical prices.
16:20 BingoBoingo ty, head to the doctor now in a leisurely way. This can wait.
16:24 mod6 Hmm, ok there is a bunch of references in the #t logs. Including this gem: http://qntra.net/2016/12/no-such-labs-unveils-fuckgoats/
16:24 mod6 So, just under 0.03 BTC back on dec 1st, 2016
16:25 mod6 This seems to be about what I had in my memory. For some reason I had 0.04... but that was quite some time ago.
16:28 BingoBoingo Well, memory does that to people
16:28 mod6 Quick peek at bitstamp prices (BTC/USD) from November 30th/December 1st 2016 seems to be ~775.00 USD per BTC.
16:28 mod6 775*0.03 = 23.25
16:29 mod6 Please see if you can find other places that support that quote of $775.00 from Dec. 1st, 2016.
16:30 mod6 If we used the same btc price today that'd be.. : $9300 * 0.03 = $279
16:31 mod6 Anyway, food for thought. But probably would get some bidders indeed for like $25 per each.
16:31 BingoBoingo mod6: I can't price FG reserve based on what they were new. I gotta base it on what I'd pay for them or be able to get out of the local market
16:32 mod6 Dang.. well we can't price them at zero. Is there more than 1 person in the whole of uy who would even know what it is, or why you'd want one?
16:33 BingoBoingo Well its an auction
16:33 mod6 Heck, maybe you have a point.
16:33 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i gotta point out, my trip to uy is unlikely because would have to actually buy enuff to fill the cases, and at prices that make trip +ev, ~and~ very, very quickly, given your dec. 15 deadline.
16:33 asciilifeform so under no circumstances must bank on it happening prior.
16:33 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I can work out a later pickup deadline
16:34 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i dun think this is necessary (and would be potentially very costly for BingoBoingo)
16:34 mod6 yeah, this is true with living situation, et. al.
16:35 BingoBoingo Well that shit all depends.
16:35 mod6 anyway, let's find a non-zero number that we can live with to start the bidding at on these fgs.
16:35 mod6 Anyway, I better run here. We'll continue this when I get back.
16:35 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The pricing I plan to open things at is likely to allow you to fill suitcases if you want
16:35 mod6 asciilifeform: feel free to through your 0.00000002 in on this too.
16:36 * mod6 bbl
16:36 * BingoBoingo doesn't particularly value sitting indefinitely on 1U servers in Uruguay very highly
16:50 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plox to initiate any piz auctions ~here~, as apparently lobbes's bot prints only where init'd.
16:51 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm seeing his auction announcements pop up in ~every channel
16:51 asciilifeform hm possibly he fixed.
16:51 asciilifeform then nm.
16:51 BingoBoingo At least the every five hours announcements
17:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=20mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (136h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
17:00 auctionbot --- end of auction list, 20mn total bids ---
17:03 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The outcome where things get very costly appears to not be a thing per the latest lawyer update.
17:03 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plox to elaborate ?
17:03 asciilifeform (or i can wait for article)
17:03 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It can wait.
17:03 asciilifeform aite
17:06 BingoBoingo Their lawyer talked to my lawyer, they aren't as bold as they were before is the short of it.
17:07 asciilifeform interesting. i'ma read the long ver when BingoBoingo posts.
17:09 BingoBoingo The MP method really seems to work.
17:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: which method was this ?
17:14 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Applying all of the pressure and not wanking around hoping they'll work it out, sweat, etc
17:15 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i wasn't aware that he had a patent on this method. but did expect that it would work, for some value of work.
17:17 BingoBoingo Well, the devil's in the details of determining what the pressure can be, where to start in this case, etc.
17:18 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: afaik you figured these out w/ own head, and did not require holy water to drink from vatican. but i'ma rather not take #p off topic, will let off.
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19:20 mod6 Alright.
19:22 mod6 So was thinking about the FGs as I was out and around. Perhaps, since the reserve price is going to be so low, maybe it's better to just do like one auction of all 28. Or perhaps two of 14 each.
19:22 BingoBoingo http://bingology.net/2019/pizarro-liquidation-auctions-proposal/
19:22 mod6 My guess is bidders will come in for those in efforts to re-sell them at a much higher rate. Especially since as far as I know, there are no others really available at this time.
19:23 BingoBoingo mod6: Two are trinque's. Four per this auction proposal are attached 2 each to the former S.MG machines. Then the used and unused are distinguished
19:23 mod6 Ah, ok
19:23 * mod6 reads the article
19:23 mod6 s/starting big/starting bid/
19:24 BingoBoingo ty, fxd
19:24 mod6 s/unbeated/unbeaten/
19:24 mod6 s/fron/from/
19:25 BingoBoingo ty, fxd
19:25 asciilifeform mod6: if you prefer : we could even split'em , 16 to mod6 ( who is 0.53630344 shareholder, would get 0.57+ of FG) and 12 then i'ma pick up ( 0.43 of'em )
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19:26 asciilifeform otherwise auction as detailed above, also worx.
19:26 asciilifeform this variant of course after absolutely all folx coin have been paid, naturally.
19:26 asciilifeform *folx owed coin
19:27 mod6 Right. Getting all of that square is my primary concern.
19:27 mod6 Let me think on it though.
19:27 * mod6 keeps reading
19:29 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: s/opening big/opening bid/
19:29 mod6 i think that one is fixed
19:29 asciilifeform aa nm then
19:29 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: reload page
19:31 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the part where you backstop the auction by offering to personally buy, is imho entirely ok. just make sure that you actually want.
19:31 mod6 BingoBoingo: you might want to add to the description of the "2 Unused and 1 lightly used Samsung SSDs;" they will be labeled as to which is which.
19:31 mod6 Maybe not, but I'm sure you'll do that anyway.
19:32 BingoBoingo mod6: They'll be labeled clearly if I'm not the buyer.
19:32 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I did the math. I do want what I want. Hence the Qntra server's price premium despite being inferior on strictly server criteria
19:35 mod6 Is "hammer time" on or before dec. 15th?
19:35 asciilifeform BingoBoingo, mod6 : i'd also suggest to sell the few piz FGs presently attached inside 1u's , separately.
19:36 BingoBoingo mod6: Before. Once I have prodecure lined up, hands to take photos/videos/etc
19:36 mod6 werd. thx
19:39 mod6 Let me make sure I understand the FG count correctly. There are 28 total in Piz's possession. 2 (trinque) + 2 (S.MG machine #1) + 2 (S.MG machine #2) + 18 new + 4 used ?
19:40 BingoBoingo mod6: Yes. The other 4 are S.NSA inside the dulaps
19:40 asciilifeform mod6: trinque's are owned by trinque. while 2 piz FGs are actually here in asciilifeform's safe .
19:40 mod6 Oh
19:40 asciilifeform ( the latter will be sent to whoever wins'em, unless mod6 wants to do the split thing; but at any rate buyer must pay postage )
19:41 mod6 So on hand, in .uy there are actually 16 new?
19:41 mod6 are those 2 new or used?
19:41 BingoBoingo mod6: 18 nre in Uruguay. The two in the alf safe were maybe molested in transit, maybe not.
19:42 asciilifeform mod6: see also here .
19:42 mod6 Ok, so winner of the 4 used fg auction will be sent 2 from .uy, and two from alfs bunker.
19:42 asciilifeform i'd classify those as 'refurbished' .
19:43 * mod6 looks @ link
19:43 asciilifeform prolly oughta be separate lot , for purpose of auction.
19:43 asciilifeform considering that e.g. someone considering going to uy, can't simply pick'em up w/ the others, would have to pay postage.
19:43 BingoBoingo mod6: Well, there's 4 used in uruguay outside of servers. I did not include the ones in alf's posession in my count. I spec'd the auction from things in my posession.
19:43 mod6 Oh.
19:44 mod6 Ok that makes sense. Do all of these have the RS232 cables to send as well?
19:44 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: they oughta be included in the auction.
19:44 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'll ship them with fuckgoats if the buyers want them.
19:44 asciilifeform mod6: no cables. they're very easy to obtain tho ( and if someone specifically would like me to include'em , we can agree on cost )
19:44 BingoBoingo I consider them part of the "grab bag" class of item
19:44 mod6 asciilifeform: if they are indeed on Piz's balance sheet, they should be auctioned off. maybe just separately though?
19:45 asciilifeform i did not transport their cables , mod6 , when flew'em back here at BingoBoingo's request ( he asked to have'em reflashed, on acct of when heathens pawed'em at customs )
19:45 mod6 ah.
19:45 asciilifeform mod6: separate auction imho .
19:45 mod6 sorry for all the q's.
19:45 asciilifeform mod6: np, these are good q's
19:46 BingoBoingo Seperate auction, ship to trinque if he wants that, or work something out among yourselves for the ones in the safe.
19:46 mod6 so trinque is going to get his two back, and s.mg is going to also get theirs sent back too?
19:46 asciilifeform who bids, will get
19:46 BingoBoingo mod6: Did S.MG buy theirs? If so that complicates shit
19:46 asciilifeform trinque's are to goto trinque tho, he paid already
19:46 mod6 Ok so there will be an added third auction for the 2 in alfs bunker, refurbished
19:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you'll want to walk the records and find out. afaik smg was leasing.
19:47 mod6 ?
19:47 asciilifeform mod6: would be the right thing imho.
19:47 BingoBoingo mod6 asciilifeform I will not handle auctions for anything not in my possesion!
19:47 asciilifeform buyers inside usa would , i suspect, prefer those 2 .
19:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i thought you were doing all the piz auctions.
19:47 mod6 ok, werd. just trying to get it all straight before we get to friday
19:47 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I can. mod6 if you can walk the records too that would be appreciated.
19:48 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I thought everything pizarro was in my possession.
19:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i'd be entirely ok to list the 2 fg w/ own hands tho, if you prefer.
19:48 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Or you and mod6 can work out some sort of handshake arrangement for the two in your hands.
19:48 mod6 BingoBoingo: ahh, i see, and that makes sense, espeically if you are going to personally buy anything not sold. you don't want to own two more things from 5000 miles away.
19:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you'd read my manifest article would have noticed , lol
19:49 * BingoBoingo can only juggle so many messes
19:49 mod6 asciilifeform: if you auction those two off, i'd say you can just keep whatever you can get for them.
19:50 mod6 sound good?
19:50 asciilifeform mod6: why ty. imho we oughta properly split the output then tho. ( or if mod6 would prefer, i can send him 1 w/ cabling, would make for a roughly correct split ) .
19:51 mod6 If you don't feel comfortable with just keeping proceeds, sure, we can split 50/50.
19:51 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: have all the owed-coin folx actually been paid, or notyet ?
19:52 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not yet, but the funds to do so are available
19:52 asciilifeform aite
19:52 asciilifeform mod6 do you want to split the 2 piz FG physically ? if so plox to gpg where you want yours postaged, i'ma then cover postage.
19:52 mod6 BingoBoingo: I know you've got about 238 fires going there. What's the timeline for people to accept the pre-closing statement?
19:52 mod6 asciilifeform: I'm game for that if you are, Sir.
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19:52 asciilifeform ( will do this after the rest is finalized )
19:53 asciilifeform mod6: a++. let's then do that.
19:53 mod6 That's fine, can totally wait until after the 15th or whatever you need to do.
19:53 BingoBoingo mod6: This is open, but open no later than end of day November 30th, 2019, UTC
19:53 mod6 (december 15th or whenever is fine.)
19:53 BingoBoingo I would like to pay out the non-contested claims sooner
19:53 mod6 Gotcha BingoBoingo.
19:53 mod6 And I totally agree. The sooner, the better.
19:54 * asciilifeform agrees
19:54 mod6 I'd say tomorrow would be a good start. But maybe give people until Monday to sound off about it just in case?
19:54 asciilifeform sounds good to me
19:54 mod6 (Just throwing it out there. Don't want to make it more of a hassle for you than it already is, you know.)
19:56 mod6 Btw, apparently I have some btc coming to me for my Rockchip and things. Can I get you a btc addy to send to outside of deedbot? Or are all payments only gonna be made via deedbot account?
19:56 BingoBoingo mod6: Monday's fine, but a number of the claims are uncontested and uncontestable. S.NSA for instance
19:56 BingoBoingo mod6: I am paying people out through deedbot unless that truly will not work for you for some reason.
19:57 mod6 BingoBoingo: as far as the S.NSA one, last I recalled, was there some checking with MP that you needed to do on the amount for september/october or something? If not, totally fine with sending what's due to them asap.
19:57 BingoBoingo mod6: Well S.NSA has negative customer equity, but a clear .9 BTC bond
19:57 mod6 BingoBoingo: ok, I'll check with trinque.
19:58 mod6 BingoBoingo: Ah, yes, that certainly can be paid asap. Same with the Foundation for as far as that goes.
19:58 mod6 Foundation can be paid directly to jurov. I'll give him a heads up.
20:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i rec to give explicit deadline for contesting the claims. after that, auction.
20:01 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The explicit deadline is Nov 30th 2019 end of day UTC
20:01 asciilifeform ok
20:01 BingoBoingo Auction before that, once I figure out whether S.MG bought their fuckgoats or not
20:02 mod6 BingoBoingo: alright, just don't pay me personally anything via deedbot until I let you know. I'll let you know after I figure things out with trinque.
20:03 asciilifeform trinque owns some irons, aha, oughta find out what he intends to do w/em
20:03 BingoBoingo Ideally everyone else will be paid out by the end of November, the fate of all materials will be determined, etc
20:04 mod6 *thumbsup*
20:04 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Yes, he has to decide what he wants to do. His most recent statement was to write them off as worthless, but I will give him time to decide otherwise if he wishes
20:04 BingoBoingo mod6: You have to decide what you want to do with the foundation server as well
20:06 mod6 So last we talked about it, yesteray? I thought you were going to try to sell it locally and charge me a fee.
20:06 BingoBoingo Ideally on December first I will be able to pay you two each your split of the coin, in a way you both agree to. Beyond there will be time for folks coming down to pick up machines. Otherwise, After November 30th, end of day UTC Pizarro is ended
20:06 BingoBoingo mod6: I presented ideas. You have to pick one.
20:07 mod6 We still ok with that? You can have 20% for sure. I mean, it seems like those are going for like $200 these days or something. ~$40 for your trouble to sell & convert to btc.
20:07 BingoBoingo mod6: Aite, are you sure you are set on 200 USD?
20:07 mod6 Umm... not 100% let me look again.
20:08 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 200 for the entire auction service ? sounds reasonable given the sweat imho
20:08 mod6 Oh shit, I also forgot to tell you the specs, which I did dig up yesterday. One sec.
20:08 BingoBoingo Give it some time. Do read and thing about it.
20:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That's what mod6 thinks his dell can sell for, nothing auction related
20:08 asciilifeform aaa
20:09 mod6 Here's what I found out: Dell PowerEdge R610, 2 x 2.67 Ghz E5640 Quad Core, 48 Gb Ram. Obviously we're selling them without the disks. The disks are to be smashed.
20:10 mod6 Going rate on that specific box these days ~with~ disks is $249.00.
20:10 mod6 Let's see if you can get $140 for it. Sound like that'll move quick?
20:10 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 5mn ecu ~= 500 usd atm ?
20:11 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: 5mn ecu is .005 BTC
20:11 asciilifeform aaa
20:11 BingoBoingo ~50 US
20:11 asciilifeform ok makes sense, i elbowed key lol
20:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: also what were the specs on 'uy1' ?
20:13 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I don't know the specs for any of the machines with certainty. Not without digging.
20:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: aite
20:15 mod6 BingoBoingo: Thoughts on $140?
20:16 mod6 Obviously the Foundation is not going to recover too much money on the server, but something is better than nothing. Selling it to recover ~something~ seems to be the prudent thing to do.
20:17 asciilifeform mod6: atm you're the only living crew member of tbf, so up to you .
20:17 mod6 Yerp.
20:25 BingoBoingo mod6: I am inclined to try higher.
20:25 * BingoBoingo back later
20:25 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i'm thinking to book flight for dec. 13 w / 'phree cancellation' (in case i dun win any auctions) , this wk
20:25 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Sounds like a plan.
20:25 mod6 BingoBoingo: ah, alright. That's fair. Throw out a number you think will move, and we'll discuss.
20:26 mod6 Doesn't have to be this minute either. I'll be around on and off today. :]
20:26 asciilifeform mod6: therefore, if there are any other items you'd prefer to physically retrieve & split, rather than auction, plz lemme know asap.
20:26 mod6 Cool, hang tight. Will try to answer shortly.
20:27 asciilifeform retrieval will cost (m / 50) * 1500 ( usd ) where m is mass of object in kg.
20:27 asciilifeform + postage from asciilifeform to mod6 .
20:28 asciilifeform if not need this, mod6 , plox to also lemme know asap, the answer will affect how much mass i want to purchase for self.
20:28 mod6 If anything, maybe just the FGs, but haven't decided just yet. The server just isn't worth the money, especially when you might be able to use that 1U cargo space for something bette.r
20:28 mod6 one sec, i'll dig it up
20:29 asciilifeform presently i intend to bid on the 2 smg boxen , switches, and possibly fg .
20:29 mod6 BingoBoingo: jurov is good for a deedbot repayment of the 1.0 BTC loan from the foundation.
20:29 mod6 asciilifeform: tight.
20:30 asciilifeform hence i intend to do a flight w/out the extra-cost 2nd 50kg.
20:30 jurov It can be sent to 1FundZy... or to my deedbot wallet either.
20:31 asciilifeform ( there aint much to fetch, given as mp put the snsa boxen up for sale in 1 batch w/ the pittance of FG i have here, i expect the buyer of his auction will jettison the 2 boxen in uy )
20:31 mod6 BingoBoingo: The full btc addy for The Bitcoin Foundation is: 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9
20:32 mod6 But since jurov says 'either', probably go with what is easist for you.
20:34 mod6 asciilifeform: ok docs say that the dell PE 610 is 39 lbs. Which is ~ 17.69kg.
20:34 mod6 (17.69 / 50) * 1500 = $530
20:36 mod6 Still seems a bit too rich for the effort.
20:36 mod6 But there's the numbers. Anyone disagree with that?
20:38 asciilifeform mod6: indeed i wouldn't bother that that 1
20:38 asciilifeform mod6: currently digging through logs to find spec for the smg boxen, but presently not found
20:40 asciilifeform atm it seems to me that it's only barely +ev to go, even if asciilifeform were to win all of the auctions he considered to bid on, and at the init price
20:40 mod6 that's fair.
20:41 mod6 If nothing else, a nice trip to the beach with BB, give him a pat on the back when this is all done and take him out to a few steak dinners (hell, I'll even chip in for that0
20:41 mod6 ) would be reason enough.
20:41 asciilifeform fwiw that's mainly why considering it
20:41 asciilifeform i'd like to see BingoBoingo , and some sunlight .
20:42 asciilifeform ( supposing BingoBoingo still wants to see asciilifeform )
20:42 mod6 werd. shit, we just got dumped last night. 1.5" of snow.
20:43 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I do. And I promise no unrequested mp metholdology discussion. Beaches, cheese, beef, and icecream.
20:43 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i dun even mind discuss, lol
20:44 BingoBoingo Every hour asciilifeform can be kept out of the toxic swamp is a small victory.
20:44 asciilifeform indeed, i haven't been out since last expedition.
20:45 asciilifeform might be my last chance for very long time, to get some oxygen.
20:45 BingoBoingo Depending how many days you take here, we can get you to the old city and maybe even do some favela tourism
20:45 * asciilifeform would enjoy.
20:46 BingoBoingo But this time, do camera your trip in a way that lets you blog it.
20:46 * BingoBoingo back in a bit
20:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: well i've a proper cam nao.
20:46 * asciilifeform also bbl:teatime.
~ 1 hours 13 minutes ~
22:00 auctionbot S#1063 O=1 LB=20mn E=2019-11-12 15:43:00.630180 (131h42) >>> selling items 1, 2 and 4 through 7 on http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bones/snsa_1_nov_2019.txt ; buyer to take possession at his own expense.
22:00 auctionbot --- end of auction list, 20mn total bids ---
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