| 17:57 | signpost | joined the net directly with tempest. |
| 18:09 | signpost | http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2026-04-09#1036051 << needs a frontier imo |
| 18:09 | asciilifeform | wb signpost |
| 18:10 | asciilifeform | is 'tempest' on www sumwhwre ? |
| 18:10 | signpost | howdy asciilifeform |
| 18:10 | signpost | nope, I need to poast it somewheres. |
| 18:10 | asciilifeform | a ok |
| 18:11 | asciilifeform | signpost: iirc this was a pestron signpost milked outta a bot ? |
| 18:12 | * | asciilifeform would read, curious what this looked like (even if heavily massaged) |
| 18:14 | signpost | yep, I put the spec directly in the CLAUDE.md and barked at it, out came something which could be worse. |
| 18:16 | asciilifeform | re 'frontier' -- orig wot in our case (nanotube's) was powered simply by various folx wanting to trade various things to/from coinz . sumthing that aint happening much any moar afaik, at least not publicly (once you subtract the various reich goxen) |
| 18:18 | asciilifeform | and, contrary to the popular pov on subj, asciilifeform not thinks that this was on acct of gestapo dispatching gasenwagen until 0 remained who wanted to trade |
| 18:20 | asciilifeform | ( for 1 thing, there are still more than a few corners of planet3 where the proverbial 'bicycle courier' etc. and otherwise not 100% under the reich boot. ) |
| 18:23 | asciilifeform | the moar obvious boojum is that ~100% of coin is in the hands of 1 of : a) speculators who use it as 'casino chip' b) folx who loaded up 10-15y ago and only offloading to fiat ever since to keep in hookers & cocaine (tm) c) folx who are waiting for exchrate to grow the proverbial decimal place , aiming to turn into (b) |
| 18:24 | asciilifeform | notably missing afaik is (d) people interested in buying anyffin (other than fiatola, in qty not readily avail. to them anywhere but the goxen; or dope, by the milligram?) for coinz |
| 18:26 | asciilifeform | (d) arguably only sorta quasi-existed at any point. even mp wasn't much of a (d) except rather episodically and with creaking |
| 18:28 | asciilifeform | theoretically nothing prevents it. all that's req'd is for sumbody to actually want to ! |
| 18:31 | signpost | the people that would ^ are probably eating guns (by analogy or otherwise) before they mature at 1m:1 because the environment is that deranging, and it'll take either clearing a lot of space on the rock or leaving it before we exit this dark age. |
| 18:32 | asciilifeform | errybody seems to want 'errything, right-now, and all at once' eh |
| 18:35 | signpost | some that, some nothing at all. |
| 18:36 | signpost | anyway re: BTC, were I a rich guy in the gulf, I'd be getting into it |
| 18:40 | asciilifeform | that the 'gulf' folx are diagnosably, clinically retarded, imho no longer oughta be considered a controversial notion |
| 18:40 | asciilifeform | (tldr -- cousin-fuckers, so unsurprise?) |
| 18:43 | asciilifeform | errybody seems to be convinced 'environment is deranging' but to asciilifeform not clear that it's in any significant way 'different outside the window' nao than in 2010s |
| 18:46 | asciilifeform | ... except by inference there's clearly over9000 folx who loaded up then and got their 'new zero' or 2 or 3. what've they done with the moolah ? evidently whatever it was, not visible from asciilifeform's perch |
| 18:49 | signpost | it's sufficient explanation to me that the internet has produced a planet of compulsive masturbators. |
| 18:49 | asciilifeform | signpost: masturbators pre-date mechanization, clearly |
| 18:54 | asciilifeform | for that matter, they were clearly already the dominant species of fauna on the net in 2010s. (consider where good % of mp's phortune, per his own words, had come from) |