| 13:09 |
unpx |
Since they are also thinkering with NAT punching, this could be useful to extend Pest https://tailscale.com/blog/nat-traversal-improvements-pt-1 asciilifeform |
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| 13:36 |
asciilifeform |
unpx: not seeing anyffin new in linked piece re subj |
| 13:37 |
asciilifeform |
( afaik all possible methods of prying open nat were discussed in the logs in detail ) |
| 13:39 |
asciilifeform |
( incl. the imho lulziest, where you have 1 or moar peers with public ipv4 but don't know the ip, and so run through all of ipv4 space to wake him up ) |
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| 14:47 |
awt_akris |
unpx: I just started testing out tailscale. It's nice for being able to use mosh to access my machines at home while at the cafe. |
| 14:48 |
awt_akris |
I suppose it could be used to run a pest network as well - of course everyone would have to be on the vpn. |
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| 15:10 |
awt_akris |
Conspicuously neither ngrok nor tailscale have implemented UDP tunnels. |
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| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2025-10-20#1035338 << this'd be in the running for 'backwards award' neh |
| 16:26 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2025-10-20 14:48:50 awt_akris[jonsykkel]: I suppose it could be used to run a pest network as well - of course everyone would have to be on the vpn. |
| 16:29 |
asciilifeform |
... or, illustrated. |
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| 16:52 |
awt_akris |
asciilifeform: yep |
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| 17:21 |
awt_akris |
Found some services that let you set up a UDP tunnel |
| 17:28 |
asciilifeform |
awt: asciilifeform's contention was that (ideally) it's the other udpisms that oughta pipe via a pest bridge, rather than the reverse |
| 17:29 |
asciilifeform |
(at least when they're between pre-config'd 2 machines, a la vpn etc) |
| 17:32 |
awt_akris |
asciilifeform: what is a udpism here? |
| 17:32 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. wireguard |
| 17:32 |
asciilifeform |
or various telephonic protocols |
| 17:35 |
awt_akris |
Got it. I was just thinking about how to (at least for now) run pest on my local box without having to connect to everyone through the station I have running on a machine with a public static IP. |
| 17:36 |
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asciilifeform recalls suggesting 'slave' feature for this, but not found its way into the docs |
| 17:38 |
* |
awt_akris vaguely recalls |
| 17:38 |
asciilifeform |
it has 1 obv down side -- a box (even behind nat, but perhaps could escape from it and be a reachable station?) instead is mastering a remote slave, and you've 1 station rather than 2 |
| 17:38 |
asciilifeform |
(and, nao you've 'personal' peering keys on a remote hosted box) |
| 17:39 |
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asciilifeform can see why awt & perhaps other folx would want the 'irc bouncer' variant tho |
| 17:41 |
asciilifeform |
ideally, the correct use for the would-be 'slave' box would be to broker nat piercing with your wot, is all |
| 17:43 |
awt_akris |
UDP tunnel seems to be working fine - but still can't directly connect to billymg and asciilifeform |
| 17:43 |
awt_akris |
signpost winking on and off |
| 17:43 |
asciilifeform |
for yr+ nao lol |
| 17:43 |
asciilifeform |
afaik still unknown precisely why |
| 17:45 |
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asciilifeform put the whole subj on back burner when seemed that errybody sailed off, but may pick back up |