| 06:07 |
hapax |
hello! |
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~ 1 hours 41 minutes ~ |
| 07:49 |
hapax |
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| 07:51 |
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~ 1 hours 38 minutes ~ |
| 09:30 |
awt_akris |
Hello hapax. |
| 09:35 |
hapax |
hello, awt |
| 09:35 |
hapax |
there seems to be little to no traffic on weekends, huh? |
| 09:35 |
awt_akris |
Welcome. What/who brings you here? |
| 09:36 |
awt_akris |
These days yes |
| 09:37 |
hapax |
i'm the ffa dos guy |
| 09:37 |
hapax |
got an invitation from asciilifeform |
| 09:39 |
awt_akris |
Ah yes!. Neat. I notice your messages appear to be showing up as multiline. What station implementation are you using? |
| 09:43 |
hapax |
huh, they seem okay on my end. i'm using jonsykkel's smalpest and connecting to it via erc |
| 09:44 |
awt_akris |
Yeah they look fine in the weblog too. Must be something weird about how my station is handling them. Maybe some cr/lf issue. |
| 09:45 |
hapax |
first thing i thought of as well, suspected it might be on my end somewhere |
| 09:46 |
hapax |
but yeah, both weblogs seem fine |
| 09:48 |
hapax |
(unless erc messes something up and the bot conveniently ignores it) |
| 09:49 |
hapax |
probably not a smalpest problem, would've been caught earlier (i'm using the latest git version) |
| 09:51 |
awt_akris |
Yeah I don't think anyone else will see it, as I'm the only one using this particular station implementation, and it's the only one that does multiline display afaik. |
| 09:59 |
hapax |
you're using akris, right? (i mean, according to your handle) |
| 09:59 |
awt_akris |
correct. |
| 09:59 |
hapax |
i thought it was intended to replace blatta |
| 10:00 |
hapax |
(i might not be up to date, have only been lurking sporadically past few months) |
| 10:00 |
hapax |
the rest of the folks still on the old version? |
| 10:00 |
awt_akris |
It's kind of a re-write of blatta with bugfixes + a gui. |
| 10:02 |
awt_akris |
Yes I believe so. |
| 10:02 |
hapax |
got it |
| 10:03 |
hapax |
my peststation currently only has a text terminal i/o and unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) doesn't run python |
| 10:04 |
hapax |
so smalpest is the only way to go for me unless i write my own implementation |
| 10:04 |
awt_akris |
Is it running dos? |
| 10:04 |
hapax |
lol, not yet |
| 10:04 |
hapax |
but i thought about trying to run smalpest on dos |
| 10:05 |
hapax |
it's a static musl-based unix-like |
| 10:05 |
awt_akris |
Excellent |
| 10:07 |
hapax |
got the static smalpest at around 190k with musl-1.2.4 and gcc-4.9.4 |
| 10:09 |
hapax |
i actually miss something like musl for dos |
| 10:10 |
hapax |
right now if you wanna do posix-like on dos it's either glibc or various incompatible libcs bundled with c compilers (with incompatible versions of c) |
| 10:10 |
hapax |
you can get it to work (sometimes with effort), but it's not out of the box |
| 10:10 |
hapax |
i wanted to try the musl approach with my ada runtime for dos (ward) |
| 10:11 |
hapax |
should compile without any problems on a stock gcc with only a few modifications |
| 10:13 |
hapax |
and it talks directly to the kernel ave1-style (without going through libc like stdlibs for other languages) |
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~ 1 hours 32 minutes ~ |
| 11:46 |
asciilifeform |
welcome to pestnet, hapax |
| 11:48 |
asciilifeform |
re dos, a useful (but afaik not exists yet) item: 64bit extender, a la dos32a, dos4gw, etc ( dos not necessarily sits on 486... ) |
| 11:49 |
asciilifeform |
(would make for a faster ffa there, among other things) |
| 11:49 |
hapax |
hello, asciilifeform |
| 11:49 |
hapax |
thanks for having me here |
| 11:50 |
hapax |
i agree, i thought about how something like that could've worked |
| 11:50 |
hapax |
unfortunately stuck to 32 bits for now |
| 11:51 |
hapax |
i remember some of the freedos folks were once aiming for a "protected mode" dos |
| 11:51 |
hapax |
might go for a "long mode" one as well |
| 11:52 |
hapax |
identity mapping the entire available mem, ring 0 only, etc. |
| 11:52 |
hapax |
templeos-style |
| 11:54 |
asciilifeform |
the orig rationale for 'ffa on dos' was 'crypto on nicless/airgapped box, single-tasking, 0 extraneous softs, boot in <1s', roughly |
| 11:54 |
asciilifeform |
above would do the job a++ |
| 11:54 |
asciilifeform |
the iron not necessarily needs to be vintage/32b |
| 11:59 |
hapax |
i'd have to check how much work it would take to actually port dpmi to amd64 |
| 11:59 |
hapax |
some of the api can stay 32b, but all the memory references would have to be extended |
| 12:00 |
hapax |
i guess dos64a is not impossible, but it would take time |
| 12:00 |
hapax |
i actually never got to properly testing the speed of ffa on my opteron |
| 12:01 |
asciilifeform |
in variant where all i/o via uart, not even need the dos... bare iron would work just same |
| 12:01 |
hapax |
yeah, sure |
| 12:02 |
* |
asciilifeform on a break from commercial worx, and very recently picked ffa back up, there's several unreleased chapters from 2020 that need cleanup |
| 12:02 |
hapax |
i was thinking more of running the litmus.sh signature checker, etc. |
| 12:02 |
hapax |
definitely gonna read |
| 12:03 |
asciilifeform |
extended-gcd, in particular (can't generate rsa keys w/out it) |
| 12:03 |
hapax |
btw, i've managed to run litmus.sh on ash (busybox) |
| 12:03 |
hapax |
needed just a few changes to make it posix-compatible |
| 12:03 |
hapax |
guess the cat-v crowd is gonna be happy |
| 12:03 |
asciilifeform |
hapax: when you get a chance, plz post the patch, i'ma include it |
| 12:04 |
hapax |
got it |
| 12:04 |
asciilifeform |
btw hapax, do make peerings w/ other people, 1 of the major wins of pest net is resilience of links |
| 12:04 |
asciilifeform |
(vs dark age irc etc) |
| 12:05 |
* |
asciilifeform must bbl |
| 12:05 |
hapax |
sure thing, gonna hang out as much as i can |
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~ 1 hours 36 minutes ~ |
| 13:42 |
jonsykkel |
re crlf ur mesages hapax has a 0a in end (http://zzz.st/pest/), id gues the irc client sends a extra 0a and smalpest dosnt catch it (wander who wrote that pile of trasj) so just passes it on to pest mesage |