04:36 |
unpx |
asciilifeform: sure, but also heresay will be a thing to consider better |
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04:37 |
unpx |
shinohai neat |
04:40 |
unpx |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-09-21#1030882 <<< my comment was on bdl |
04:40 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2023-09-21 17:56:29 asciilifeform: re p2p warez, the notion is that you ask a set of peers to start fountaining at you, and they do so for a certain time, after which -- if you haven't the pieces you need -- you ask'em again, and so forth until you have'em |
04:44 |
unpx |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-09-21#1030887 <<< after reviewing it better, bdl is exactly what I said, a "spray and pray". And you even extend the message length in hope the receiver is able to solve the random jigsaw. At that point you just run a DHT as ascii explained above, without coding. |
04:44 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2023-09-21 18:01:27 signpost[asciilifeform]: iirc maymounkov et al came up with a more complicated scheme; I've forgotten now, but I don't see a need for something more complicated than the above. |
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07:41 |
unpx |
Moreover, digging around, the author is the same that proposed the current DHT stuff https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0005.html |
07:41 |
unpx |
>The protocol is based on Kademila [1] and is implemented over UDP. |
07:42 |
unpx |
>Peter Maymounkov, David Mazieres, "Kademlia: A Peer-to-peer Information System Based on the XOR Metric" |
07:44 |
unpx |
So, yeah, WTF signpost |
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11:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-09-22#1030387 << nope |
11:32 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-09-22 04:36:13 unpx[jonsykkel|signpost]: asciilifeform: sure, but also heresay will be a thing to consider better |
11:32 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-29 12:30:22 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|awt|deedbot]: 1 of the reasons why the luby transfer absolutely gotta be direct-only (tho can be from >1 peer in parallel, sending diff frags) |
11:33 |
asciilifeform |
^ key thread re subj |
11:39 |
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asciilifeform sad re phf walking off. the list of folx who actually have time & energy to do anyffin of interest is nao very short ( possibly just signpost ? ) |
11:40 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
11:40 |
busybot |
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