| 02:28 |
jonsykkel |
main idea being to move "ground floor" (the line below which is the stuf u must alredy know to be able to run entire item manually on paper) down to just above english lang |
| 02:28 |
jonsykkel |
exact behavior is specified as long as meaning of english lang is agred on and none of specs contain undefined behveior |
| 02:28 |
jonsykkel |
etc |
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| 11:08 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: see also knuth's 'literate programming' |
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| 13:56 |
jonsykkel |
ill chek it |
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| 15:16 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: see also this apropos vintage crackpottery by asciilifeform . |
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| 15:48 |
jonsykkel |
ye seen that, i readed ur entire www |
| 15:55 |
jonsykkel |
my sigs would always be 0xFF |
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| 19:07 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
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| 21:18 |
signpost |
I liked this crackpottery. "I swear before Odin, this is contemptible shit." |
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| 22:36 |
jonsykkel |
agreed its good system |
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| 22:53 |
jonsykkel |
in others thought im would atempt something like this as a xperiment |
| 22:53 |
bitbot |
(asciilifeform) 2020-08-08 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: imho even an item written in ordinary amd64 asm (for starters) would fit the bill. so long as it is done correctly -- i.e. ONLY implement in asm what absolutely cannot be moved into the lispy 2nd layer of init. 'world'. |
| 22:53 |
dulapbot |
(asciilifeform) 2020-07-18 asciilifeform: trinque: since you mentioned script langs: considering, after ffa, to attempt a 'dethompsonizing' simple gc-less scheme in asm, in style of 'M' as a scripting lang. can't speak for erryone, but i've wanted a <32kB scripting lang that 'compiles wit |
| 22:53 |
dulapbot |
(asciilifeform) 2020-07-18 asciilifeform: historically it's been attempted before, but all the examples i know of made fundamental mistake (attempted to implement the reader in the proggy, rather than in the interp. bytecode. if you do the latter, whole thing is 100x simpler) |
| 22:53 |
jonsykkel |
alredy scoured logs for info re this kinda thing and readed kogge chapter on secd |
| 22:53 |
jonsykkel |
if anybudy has any bright ideas it would not be bad if these ideas could be placed in this chat at this point in time |
| 22:53 |
jonsykkel |
ty |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: a++ project and afaik you've errything you need. that sword's been stuck in the stone for long enuff imho. |
| 23:06 |
jonsykkel |
ok cool |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: btw this is good example of how ~not~ to do it. dun write the 'paren eater' (text to ast meatgrinder) in asm. do it in the bytecoad, keep the x86olade to a min. |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
ideally the latter oughta just eval, and elementary io, oughta fit in l0 cache. |
| 23:09 |
asciilifeform |
aa jonsykkel already even linked to the relevant line. |
| 23:09 |
jonsykkel |
yep, thats brilant idea |
| 23:09 |
jonsykkel |
thing can be ported to watever iron in 30min |
| 23:09 |
jonsykkel |
exactly wat got me intrested in it |
| 23:09 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: 'm' has errything you need in re: 'linux binturd w/out linker crapola' |
| 23:10 |
asciilifeform |
here an' here mostly. |
| 23:11 |
jonsykkel |
indeed, god stuff there |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
mmap and file io here. |