| 01:10 |
phf |
!!help |
| 01:10 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/help.html |
| 01:11 |
deedbot |
!!help |
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| 01:11 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/help.html |
| 01:13 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018950 << lolwat |
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| 01:13 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 01:11:55 deedbot[awt]: !!help |
| 01:15 |
phf |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018952 << i also have no idea :> |
| 01:15 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 01:13:10 asciilifeform[jonsykkel|deedbot|awt]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018950 << lolwat |
| 01:21 |
phf |
unfortunately i also hosed my instance, si somebody else will have to dig it out from their database |
| 01:25 |
jesus |
i am the way, the truth, and the life. |
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| 01:26 |
phf |
hearsay machinery is funny that way |
| 01:26 |
phf |
!!help |
| 01:26 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/help.html |
| 01:41 |
phf |
!!help |
| 01:41 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/help.html |
| 01:43 |
phf |
sorry about all the noise :/ |
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~ 9 hours 11 minutes ~ |
| 10:54 |
signpost |
omg, deedbot's first act of volition |
| 10:54 |
signpost |
wtf? |
| 10:58 |
signpost |
looks like a blatta hearsay relay bug eh? http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=1jWo |
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| 10:58 |
signpost |
deedbot only has a record of receving it, not sending |
| 10:58 |
signpost |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018957 << a ok, it was a night of miracles :D |
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| 10:58 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 01:25:24 jesus[awt]: i am the way, the truth, and the life. |
| 11:06 |
phf |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018968 << deedbot was probably my bug, but i can't figure out from code what sequence of events could've led to it |
| 11:06 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 10:58:58 signpost: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018957 << a ok, it was a night of miracles :D |
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~ 2 hours 28 minutes ~ |
| 13:35 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018966 << there is defo some brokenness of the 'thinks $peer's packet is own' type remaining in blatta -- iirc seen befoar (tho can't find in log) |
| 13:35 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 10:58:15 signpost: looks like a blatta hearsay relay bug eh? http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=1jWo |
| 13:36 |
asciilifeform |
( the seal, recall, does not allow to distinguish which side sent. so is theoretically possible to misattribute, unless pestron -- as per new spec -- hashes ~every~ emitted packet and keeps hash in dedupe cache, ~prior~ to sending it) |
| 13:39 |
asciilifeform |
( fwiw could be different sort of bug (i.e. alters speaker somehow during processing), asciilifeform not read enuff src to be certain ) |
| 13:41 |
asciilifeform |
fwiw the '!!help' did in fact come outta deedbot's station, per asciilifeform's log (rather than hearsay with mutated speaker or the like) |
| 13:42 |
signpost |
maybe so, but did not hit the bot sitting behind the station |
| 13:42 |
signpost |
so looks like yep, station bug of some kind |
| 13:43 |
signpost |
rather, was not emitted by the bot |
| 13:43 |
* |
signpost has record of all comings and goings independently of blatta |
| 13:55 |
asciilifeform |
right, seems unlikely that irc side had anyffin to do with it |
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~ 2 hours 16 minutes ~ |
| 16:12 |
phf |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-18#1018947 << dear sirs madams, please do the dutyfull |
| 16:12 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-18 23:53:09 phf[awt]: can someone well connected please post their AT |
| 16:13 |
signpost |
phf: 75.81.94.66:7778 |
| 16:14 |
signpost |
and deedbot is 96.43.130.234:7779 |
| 16:14 |
phf |
i mean the whole thing, so i don't need to ask everyone individually for their updated ips |
| 16:14 |
signpost |
ah ok, sec will gpggram |
| 16:15 |
signpost |
http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=R0Rg |
| 16:16 |
phf |
what is this, protection from ze germans! |
| 16:17 |
signpost |
hey man, asciilifeform insisted network details oughta be least disclosure necessary |
| 16:17 |
* |
signpost doesn't give a shit if his IP's in logs, clearly |
| 16:18 |
phf |
ah shit i forgot my gpg password |
| 16:18 |
phf |
i mean it's the same one i had for like 10 years, but i once went two weeks unable to remember what it was |
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| 16:20 |
phf |
also, in somewhat unrelated. i discovered a kind of multipeer "receipt" confirmation. if you have a roster of live stations, can send you broadcast only to a subset of them, the packets will propagate, and the live ones will send you your packet back |
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| 16:20 |
* |
signpost has this happen with zip codes, pin codes, etc., time to time. |
| 16:21 |
signpost |
where suddenly my brain has rearranged indices such that one of these is what it was a decade ago |
| 16:23 |
phf |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018994 << which is also a kind of impersonation protection. if you get a packet from yourself, can check own backlog to see if you sent it, and then send it back to the station that you got the packet from. this way you also complete the "broadcast is sent to all peers" requirement. |
| 16:23 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 16:20:22 phf[awt]: also, in somewhat unrelated. i discovered a kind of multipeer "receipt" confirmation. if you have a roster of live stations, can send you broadcast only to a subset of them, the packets will propagate, and the live ones will send you your packet back |
| 16:24 |
phf |
well, peering will have to wait i guess. i can't remember the damn password |
| 16:25 |
phf |
i would say "send it to me dm", but we don't have peering! |
| 16:27 |
signpost |
well sheeit |
| 16:29 |
asciilifeform |
phf: mine is still as shown here |
| 16:29 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-09-14 11:42:14 asciilifeform[6]: PeterL: 100.15.116.69:1337 |
| 16:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018993 << asciilifeform one time thought 'that's it, brain damage' when 'couldn't remember pw', turned out to be boojum afflicting keyboard ('model f' with imperfect retrofit controller, key 'bounced') |
| 16:31 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 16:18:50 phf[awt]: i mean it's the same one i had for like 10 years, but i once went two weeks unable to remember what it was |
| 16:31 |
phf |
brain damage in my case |
| 16:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-12-19#1018994 << this'll work, obv. if they're all peered in such a way that the path dun max out bounce (or get deduped) anywhere on the way back |
| 16:33 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-12-19 16:20:22 phf[awt]: also, in somewhat unrelated. i discovered a kind of multipeer "receipt" confirmation. if you have a roster of live stations, can send you broadcast only to a subset of them, the packets will propagate, and the live ones will send you your packet back |
| 16:34 |
asciilifeform |
( 1 of the reasons why dedupe and cap bounce is so that packets dun waste bw going in circles ) |
| 16:35 |
phf |
well, as of right now i'm still only sending one broadcast packet to a handchosen counterparty (awt specifically) and get all my packets back |
| 16:35 |
phf |
2 bounce from deedbot and 3 bounce from dulapbot specifically |
| 16:35 |
asciilifeform |
phf: dulapbot: 205.134.172.3:13337 ( iirc was in the log, but can't find readily ), i dun expect it'll ever change |
| 16:36 |
asciilifeform |
phf: right, atm net is small enuff that you'll prolly get'em all back |
| 16:36 |
phf |
yeah i have peering with deedbot and dulapbot, but your station dun work ._. you maybe refreshed your key at some point? |
| 16:37 |
asciilifeform |
phf: nope, but suspect firewall misconfig'd, and not yet had time to fix properly |
| 16:37 |
phf |
#<STATION (#(100 15 116 69) 1337)/asciilifeform NIL {700A927953}> |
| 16:37 |
phf |
that nil ought to be last packet receipt time |
| 16:37 |
asciilifeform |
phf: hence wai asciilifeform has been handing out dulapbot peerings to folx who iirc also in a nat |
| 16:38 |
* |
asciilifeform found that currently is only able to peer, from desk station, to stations that aint in nat |
| 16:39 |
* |
asciilifeform must bbl |
| 16:39 |
phf |
there's no way to manually prod from blatta? |
| 16:39 |
phf |
(prod) |
| 16:39 |
phf |
err |
| 16:41 |
phf |
hmm, oddly prod to awt gives me correct ip address, but port is 7779. considering that my nat is not configured in any special way that seems like mostly like a bug |
| 16:43 |
phf |
but then i'm obv getting packets back, so somewhere deep on the connection level it's sending to the correct ephemeral port |
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~ 3 hours 30 minutes ~ |
| 20:13 |
* |
billymg waves from texas |
| 20:14 |
billymg |
signpost: still on for this week at the same time/place? |
| 20:14 |
signpost |
yessir, sec and I'll provide meatspace contact info |
| 20:16 |
signpost |
billymg: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=Z30_ |
| 20:16 |
signpost |
looking forward to it |
| 20:18 |
billymg |
signpost: excellent, likewise. see you then |
| 20:22 |
billymg |
signpost: err, actually, forgot i don't have my key with me. here's my irl info: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=tAoM |
| 20:30 |
phf |
and that's how they got to signpost |
| 20:30 |
billymg |
whaack or awt can vouch that it's actually me, both have my irl contact info |
| 20:31 |
billymg |
phf: lol |
| 20:31 |
signpost |
tell them I died as I lived, gorging on assorted smoked meats |
| 20:32 |
signpost |
billymg got it |
| 20:32 |
phf |
we'll keep the details from your wife |
| 20:32 |
signpost |
secret mission, dead drop, intercepted, nothing at all to do with brisket. |