#pest | 2022-08-13

10:36

awt: so i kind of fouled the test, but ostensibly if i just come up from non operation, and start sending noise packets, i should get back a prod within some frequency?

10:39

phf

now that i sent a message i should definitely get a prod packet?

10:43

phf

http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-08-12#1113115 << how did it go, if your girl is trained to maintain your infrastructure while you're laid out, you're scum and your girl is useless? :}

10:43

bitbot

(asciilifeform) 2022-08-12 asciilifeform: apologizes to folx on pestnet for delay in replies; asciilifeform not uncrated pestron yet, on acct of several simultaenous (albeit uninteresting to audience) clusterfucks

10:43

phf

*isn't

↖

10:44

awt

phf: I don't see any prod messages from you in my log

10:46

awt

But yes, if you send a prod you should get an immediate reply prod

10:46

awt

No further prods are required to be sent past the reply afaict

10:47

phf

awt: oh i have to send one, before you send me one back? i haven't read the spec, i'm just running my mouth here

10:47

awt

Oh I see. If you just come up, you need to send a prod to get one. Blatta can be set to send prods periodially, but the default right now is just to blast them out on launch.

~ 20 minutes ~

11:07

phf

asciilifeform: your pest address encoding is funny, because port is le and ip address is accidentally be

11:10

phf

i say accidentally because you're just taking dot-decimal label and laying it out in memory, but if you were to convert ip address to number first and then write it to array as big endian you'd get the same layout

↖

11:10

phf

obviously if you were writing both ip and port as le, you'd get 57 5 4 3 2 1

~ 46 minutes ~

11:57

jonsykkel

u have same funny with sha257 u can intepret it as a aray of 8bit numbers where indian dosnt mater or one bigas 256bit number wher it dose

~ 20 minutes ~

12:18

phf

right, i forgot to mention that, because i also have a reader for bignums (really more like numbers where size is specified at runtime) and it exhibits similar inconsistency

12:20

phf

apropos it's more convenient to treat hashes as bignums in lisp, and oldschool lisps (genera and allegro common lisp come to mind) do just that. modern lispers prefer to sling around arrays of octets

12:23

phf

which is a dirty c-ism!

12:29

shinohai

Wow when you say it like that phf makes me wanna moan "fuck me like the C programming language" during sex.

12:34

awt

shinohai: C style involves too much anal

12:35

shinohai

I view that as a challenge I'm willing to accept.

~ 16 minutes ~

12:51

jonsykkel

thers other advanages also to thinkig of them as numbers, for exampel u get this implicit ordering by just doing simpel < or >, can be usful in p2p protocols

~ 1 hours 53 minutes ~

14:45

billymg

http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-08-13#1113126 << ty. i'll have to wait until it gets here to verify but armed with this information i was able to search the reviews and found one claiming to have done this check

14:45

bitbot

(asciilifeform) 2022-08-13 asciilifeform: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-08-12#1011162 << cut a small piece from end when buying, see that it's actually cu (rather than cu-plated al). and that the shields actually there.

~ 3 hours 34 minutes ~

18:19

crtdaydreams

shinohai you've forked for some reason, the four posts north of "fuck me like the C programming language" don't show up on bitdash.io either.

18:20

crtdaydreams

you're hearsay from that point on

18:28

crtdaydreams

er was a getdata, I'm not sure what's happened here

18:30

shinohai