#ossasepia | 2020-05-21

00:26

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http://ztkfg.com/2020/05/guitar-practice-log-2/ << whaack -- Guitar Practice Log 2

~ 3 hours 52 minutes ~

04:18

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http://bimbo.club/2020/05/work-report-5202020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 5/20/2020

~ 56 minutes ~

05:14

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http://trilema.com/2020/the-omnistatement/ << Trilema -- The Omnistatement

~ 3 hours 27 minutes ~

08:42

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http://ossasepia.com/2020/05/21/illustrated-mirroring-and-collapsing-of-points/ << Ossa Sepia -- Illustrated Mirroring and Collapsing of Points

~ 4 hours 7 minutes ~

12:49

billymg

diana_coman (and others who were already using image upload scripts rather than wp's gui uploader): do you see any use for the "Media Library" at wp-admin/upload.php ?

12:51

billymg

because the way i understand it, if you're uploading your images via scp they won't show up in that list, unless you also have a script that generates the db entries for each image

12:55

00:26	feedbot	http://ztkfg.com/2020/05/guitar-practice-log-2/ << whaack -- Guitar Practice Log 2
		~ 3 hours 52 minutes ~
04:18	feedbot	http://bimbo.club/2020/05/work-report-5202020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 5/20/2020
		~ 56 minutes ~
05:14	feedbot	http://trilema.com/2020/the-omnistatement/ << Trilema -- The Omnistatement
		~ 3 hours 27 minutes ~
08:42	feedbot	http://ossasepia.com/2020/05/21/illustrated-mirroring-and-collapsing-of-points/ << Ossa Sepia -- Illustrated Mirroring and Collapsing of Points
		~ 4 hours 7 minutes ~
12:49	billymg	diana_coman (and others who were already using image upload scripts rather than wp's gui uploader): do you see any use for the "Media Library" at wp-admin/upload.php ?
12:51	billymg	because the way i understand it, if you're uploading your images via scp they won't show up in that list, unless you also have a script that generates the db entries for each image
12:55	diana_coman	billymg: I don't care about that media library, no
12:56	billymg	yeah, after seeing the light of bulk-processing images via scripts rather than using the gui i think even for those still using the gui it's a case of http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-09#1024027
12:56	ossabot	Logged on 2020-04-09 16:14:08 diana_coman: ie make the trunk of mpwp so that I'm 2x more productive using it than whatever entrenched habits I might have, and I'll change the darned habits already
13:03	billymg	at the moment i'm leaning towards just ripping the whole thing out and including a sample image processing script in a blog post
13:04	*	billymg doesn't see himself ever needing to navigate to "Media Library" tab again after adopting script-based image workflow
		~ 1 hours 53 minutes ~
14:57	diana_coman	billymg: the way this went was that previous to making scripts, I'd ~avoid publishing images, pretty much; and tbh given how many images I had to publish with this graphics work, I think I would have made the scripts now if I didn't have them already
14:58	diana_coman	so yeah, it's really a huge improvement, quite of the usual sort obtained when ditching the gui and actually using command line properly.
15:07	feedbot	http://trilema.com/2020/a-fost-sau-n-a-fost/ << Trilema -- A fost sau n-a fost ?
15:14	jfw	I'm not sure; if you remove the ability to do things except by local shell access to the server, does that mean sites like younghands where multiple authors can edit their own stuff with permissions managed by the php are out of spec?
15:19	diana_coman	jfw: there is that, basically risking a tree-branching on single vs multi-author support
15:29	jfw	although the part where 'media library' metadata has to be in database but media itself in filesystem, and scp uploading doesn't actually "add it to library", suggests the thing isn't done at all correctly, and cutting it would be strictly beneficial as losing something that never worked.
15:32	diana_coman	hence my above tree-branching - because it's more the sort of thing that needs not as much a not-cut but a re-work and that might be justified for the multi-author case but not that much for single author.
15:35	jfw	ah ok. At risk of re-treading old ground - I also wonder if the admin GUI as a whole is justified for the single-author case. I use it, but possibly as an entrenched habit where I'd be better off learning something else
15:36	diana_coman	that's pretty much where it goes, yes
15:40	diana_coman	jfw, billymg I guess the main part re gui that I can see needing some proper porting would be the preview
15:43	jfw	as in, a way to insert a row with draft flag set and derive a preview URL?
15:44	diana_coman	inserting it with draft flag is fine; the preview url creation is unclear to me currently - I never really looked into how that preview is done
15:44	jfw	hm, I also wonder if pingbacks work at all when manually inserting. though we know that whole mechanism needs a look
15:45	diana_coman	I suppose in a way the whole exercise actually turns around how much does one rely on php for admin basically.
15:46	diana_coman	jfw: heh, pingbacks work since basically this "manual inserting" is what sonofawitch does, after all.
15:46	diana_coman	and the log article does send pingbacks, I didn't specifically bother to do it or anything
15:46	diana_coman	though at the same time, the current pingback mechanism is "working" as in it sends about 1/4
15:46	diana_coman	so it actually needs a fix anyway
15:46	jfw	you're sure it wasn't just the once when you combined existing ones into May?
15:47	diana_coman	yeah, some of the others sent too
15:47	diana_coman	and moreover, added stuff to it also sent pingbacks
15:47	jfw	it's smarter than I thought apparently
15:48	diana_coman	logically speaking it should be a trigger simply, I did expect it to work; the trouble is that it doesn't seem to always trigger, even normally, lol.
15:48	jfw	I'd found that re-saving an existing article would send incrementally more pingbacks, lolz