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03:44 diana_coman lobbes: it's been more of a not-try-the-idea-out but anyway, fine.
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04:14 feedbot http://younghands.club/2020/05/18/jfw-review-week-of-11-may-2020/ << Young Hands Club -- JFW review, week of 11 May 2020
04:16 diana_coman jfw: the night-time review!
04:17 jfw , the return of ~
04:17 diana_coman maybe I really should change the name thus, it will surely sound at least way more exciting
04:17 diana_coman so welcome back to the review then, indeed.
04:19 * jfw bows, goes to get some sleep, plan will have to come tomorrow
04:20 diana_coman sleep well
~ 4 hours 27 minutes ~
08:47 billymg http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-05-16#1026033 << i wouldn't mind taking a look, if anything just so i could try it out locally
08:47 ossabot Logged on 2020-05-16 19:44:38 trinque: at any rate, jfw I already did the postgres port if you or billymg want it
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09:17 billymg if no one objects, the next patch will rip out js and whatever features depend on it. this will be similar in absolute terms (LOCs/bytes) to the first major round of trimming
~ 5 hours 43 minutes ~
15:00 diana_coman billymg: from my point of view js can go without any trouble; the only possibly-useful feature requiring it and that I'm aware of was editing the url of an article from the gui; from my pov the main question though would be - how separate the js is from everything else in the code so as not to take out/break something entirely different, really.
15:13 jfw imo if there's to be a web editor anyway, it needs to be able to do all editing tasks (such as that permalink editing), and there shouldn't be any 'dead widgets' (as there are when JS is simply disabled client-side). That's where it might get tricky, but dunno how bad.
15:20 diana_coman http://ossasepia.com/2020/05/03/ossasepia-logs-for-may-2020/#1026044 - I do hope that pile of stuff glared back at you, jfw !
15:20 sonofawitch 2020-05-17 02:49:50 (#ossasepia) jfw: http://ossasepia.com/2020/05/03/ossasepia-logs-for-may-2020/#1026033 - I'd love to have it, if only for safe keeping; and why not publish anyway since you did the work. (/me glares at own pile of unsung code...) That said, I'm not likely to test it any time soon and will probably end up moving toward "mysql all the things" unless a strong reason turns up
15:29 jfw diana_coman: if it had eyes, it would have.
15:39 jfw ftr, jfw finally barfs, as the saying goes.
15:39 snsabot (therealbitcoin) 2020-05-18 jfw: Curious game, only way to win is...
15:42 * diana_coman goes to read latest dramaz
15:44 diana_coman lol, I didn't realise trb was alf-tech nao.
15:44 billymg diana_coman, jfw: yes, this will be a surgical snip, not a simple `find ./mp-wp/ -iname "*.js" | xargs rm`
15:45 jfw billymg: sounds good then!
15:47 jfw diana_coman: see, trb is this temple built by lazy ignoramus shitoshi, and it stinks, why doesn't he come back and clean it up for us!
15:47 diana_coman dorion: how's that balanced week/time going for you?
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16:11 trinque what happened to "there is no we, only V"
16:11 trinque who gives a fuck who likes whom? write patches, if folks sign, or not, what
16:16 diana_coman trinque: I don't think anyone proposed anywhere they would not do whatever code development they wanted to do anyway, or anything of the sort.
16:16 trinque sure, I just said that, but in Texan
16:16 trinque :D
16:18 diana_coman trinque: lolz; fwiw though, there are precious few people actually publishing whatever it is they are doing.
16:19 jfw 'Texan' - ah ok, I was scratching head. I certainly have no objections to anyone using or signing my patches!
16:19 diana_coman trinque: and out of curiosity, why do you ask if people want it? as above, publish it if you made it anyway and don't intend otherwise to keep it private, no?
16:19 sonofawitch 2020-05-17 00:20:31 (#ossasepia) trinque: at any rate, jfw I already did the postgres port if you or billymg want it
16:19 trinque I try not to do the open-source "code hucked over wall" thing, but otherwise have no objection.
16:21 diana_coman you mean you do code hucked within the walls but not over the walls? lol
16:21 diana_coman (I'm genuinely curious, nothing more)
16:21 trinque yeah, I have all manner of experiments laying here in there
16:21 trinque *and
16:23 trinque I published early on the cuntoo project, and that didn't seem to have worked.
16:23 diana_coman and what's the cost/downside to publishing them even signed with hucked-shit-key ? honestly, I never ever regretted documenting even shit attempts
16:23 diana_coman trinque: that sounds like you expected some specific "worked" and it wasn't that so "did not work"
16:24 diana_coman I certainly tried it out and provided feedback; others too; you have it there and used it to support talks eg re tmsros or even why "not that way" ; so dunno - how "not worked"?
16:25 trinque sure, got feedback, but it was too big an item to push by myself.
16:25 diana_coman sure; what's that to do with publish/not publish though?
16:27 trinque I suppose we differ on whether a person that publishes "wp ported to postgres" that doesn't actually work has done something useful?
16:27 trinque I personally would feel obligated to make it work if I published.
16:27 trinque which is the right pressure for the right item, but not that one.
16:28 trinque brb
16:28 diana_coman trinque: uhm, why; publish it as "this is my shit attempt that does not work; but I explored this and that and learnt *why* it's not worth it"; listen, there's way more to learn from a published stuff than the "will grab this and it works"
16:29 trinque so maybe there's also some narcissism in there too.
16:29 diana_coman and as for everything else there is that part where it's *not possible* to tell upfront in *what way* it will turn out useful.
16:30 diana_coman possibly; the thing is that the way it looks, you lock yourself into such a narrow thing that indeed, there's very, very little that can get out; honestly, it's not a problem in any possible way for me; I just fail to see how it's useful in the least for you, that's all.
16:31 trinque some works take a long time.
16:31 trinque for example the one I'm working on as a continuation of the OS thread
16:32 diana_coman yes; and there's no need to publish-only-at-the-end; (fwiw I was never naturally "write and publish"; hell, not even naturally "talk")
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