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05:08 diana_coman !o uptime
05:08 ossabot diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 22d 20h 48m
05:16 diana_coman !s help
05:16 sonofawitch !s is my prefix for commands: hi, help
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05:34 diana_coman !o uptime
05:34 ossabot diana_coman: time since my last reconnect : 22d 21h 14m
05:40 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/ossasepia-logs-for-26-apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #ossasepia Logs for 26 Apr 2020
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05:55 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/eulora-logs-for-26-apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #eulora Logs for 26 Apr 2020
05:58 diana_coman in advantages of publishing the logs like any other text on blog... backlinks ; might even make for more motivation to finally get to the bottom of missing trackbacks otherwise.
~ 4 hours 18 minutes ~
10:17 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/a-day-in-april/ << Ossa Sepia -- A Day in April
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11:43 billymg !!ratings
11:43 deedbot http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=co2w
11:44 billymg ^ finally got around to that bit of housekeeping
11:55 billymg thank you to everyone who responded to my mp-wp survey, it cleared up a lot in my head about the desired direction for the project
11:57 billymg i'll publish my interpretation of the results soon, but even reading the raw responses i think should be interesting to anyone who uses mp-wp
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12:12 diana_coman billymg: fwiw, after doing all the scripts to import logs and to get real-time logging into mpwp and all that, I realised that in the process I pretty much got also ~all I'd need to not even look at the web-based interface anymore
12:14 diana_coman sure, there'd be a bit more work to make stuff like comment moderation more convenient but otherwise it kind of boggles the mind why exactly did I put up with the web-based login for so long.
12:15 diana_coman (well: because I never took the time to really look at it; in turn, because there were bigger fires & more annoying things to sort out etc; as it always goes)
12:17 billymg diana_coman: yeah, one of the big takeaways for me is that JS can be removed entirely sooner than i had previously thought (the "libraries" of which are a big portion of the overall weight of the codebase)
12:18 diana_coman ah, that for sure.
12:22 diana_coman billymg: I'm curious though what you make of it given that from what I saw, the answers from non-mpwp users were ~all mainly "shall never use it on ideological grounds"
12:26 diana_coman maybe I should say even religious grounds by now, lol.
12:27 billymg diana_coman: my read from the non-mpwp users was not quite as pessimistic. two of the three responses seemed to indicate that if the codebase was trimmed enough and a CLI introduced they would not be opposed to running it
12:28 diana_coman I think you are very optimistic but I'll be very happy to be proved wrong in this as well as above.
12:29 * diana_coman shall be back later at the usual 7pm utc
12:35 billymg diana_coman: haha, it's the optimism that motivates. it also doesn't hurt that despite perhaps being in different ideological camps, both users and non-users alike have similar goals -- e.g. 1) run something with as small a footprint as possible that 2) doesn't require too much hassle and 3) allows for cli/script interaction to fit more efficiently into their preferred workflow
12:43 billymg diana_coman: i think you might be right about users already invested in another solution though. even if mp-wp becomes palatable to them there are switching costs. but getting to the point where, hypothetically, if they were starting fresh again mp-wp would be their first choice, would still be a win
12:44 * billymg bbl, breakfast is ready
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14:50 lobbes diana_comam: I have a massive log and blog debt to catch up on. Seems work on mpwp keeps moving forward and I'm still interested in lending a hand with any irc-to-blog work. The mp-wp-bot I was working on does indeed to real-time logging to mp-wp. I'll be spending today and early next week on getting back up to speed on things.
14:50 lobbes speaking of, auctionbot is MIA I see; I will fix
14:58 diana_coman oh hey, wb lobbes
14:58 diana_coman !!up #ossasepia LizTurner
14:58 deedbot LizTurner voiced for 30 minutes.
14:58 diana_coman LizTurner: hello
14:59 diana_coman lobbes: what happened to you this almost full April, anyway?
15:03 diana_coman http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/ossasepia-logs-for-26-apr-2020/#1025280 - this would be about the most generous interpretation indeed; to me there's a stark contrast between those answers and e.g. http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/22/ossasepia-logs-for-09-Apr-2020/#1024027
15:03 sonofawitch 2020-04-26 18:35:29 (#ossasepia) billymg: diana_coman: haha, it's the optimism that motivates. it also doesn't hurt that despite perhaps being in different ideological camps, both users and non-users alike have similar goals -- e.g. 1) run something with as small a footprint as possible that 2) doesn't require too much hassle and 3) allows for cli/script interaction to fit more efficiently into their preferred workflow
15:03 sonofawitch 2020-04-09 16:14:08 (#ossasepia) diana_coman: ie make the trunk of mpwp so that I'm 2x more productive using it than whatever entrenched habits I might have, and I'll change the darned habits already
15:05 diana_coman anyways, to my mind the benefit would be in reaching out to new people rather than trying to convince anyone who has already made their mind to not use it.
15:07 diana_coman huh, those join-and-leave, not even spewing out some spam, boggles the mind
15:07 diana_coman it's like children's games - ring at the door and run away sort of thing?
15:10 diana_coman cruciform: how's the Knuth & logs diet going for you?
15:10 sonofawitch 2020-04-22 16:58:06 (#ossasepia) cruciform: I've had enough Knuth for a bit, so gonna work on reading the logs; writing an article on "What is YH?"
15:21 cruciform !!up #ossasepia cruciform
15:21 deedbot You may not !!up yourself.
15:22 diana_coman trinque: ^ what's wrong there ?
15:23 diana_coman hm, I thought voice params were changed already.
15:23 sonofawitch 2020-04-18 18:15:44 (#ossasepia) trinque: diana_coman: sitting down to another round of deedbot tweaking now, will make sure the voice params are also changed.
15:23 cruciform diana_coman, I went from not-doing-a-lot-inside to not-doing-a-lot outside for the last few days; I'll have a post up by tomorrow eve http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-26#1025296
15:23 ossabot Logged on 2020-04-26 16:32:27 diana_coman: cruciform: how's the Knuth & logs diet going for you?
15:23 sonofawitch 2020-04-22 16:58:06 (#ossasepia) cruciform: I've had enough Knuth for a bit, so gonna work on reading the logs; writing an article on "What is YH?"
15:24 diana_coman cruciform: ahaha, at least a change of ...scenery!
15:25 cruciform speaking of, enjoyed http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/26/a-day-in-april/
15:25 diana_coman cruciform: oh hey, glad to hear it!
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15:51 jfw dorion: how's it going with the sales article revisions?
~ 3 hours 16 minutes ~
19:08 trinque lemme see, cruciform stick around a minute so we can sort this.
19:09 trinque ah crap, just noticed the timestamps.
19:11 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/27/ossasepia-logs-for-27-Apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #ossasepia Logs for 27 Apr 2020
19:13 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/27/eulora-logs-for-27-Apr-2020/ << Ossa Sepia -- #eulora Logs for 27 Apr 2020
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20:16 billymg http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-26#1025293 << noted, that makes sense
20:16 ossabot Logged on 2020-04-26 16:27:55 diana_coman: anyways, to my mind the benefit would be in reaching out to new people rather than trying to convince anyone who has already made their mind to not use it.
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21:05 feedbot http://bimbo.club/2020/04/work-report-4232020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 4/23/2020
21:05 feedbot http://bimbo.club/2020/04/work-report-4242020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 4/24/2020
21:05 feedbot http://bimbo.club/2020/04/work-report-4252020/ << Bimbo Club -- Work Report - 4/25/2020
21:17 feedbot http://trilema.com/2020/probably-the-best-personal-blog-of-the-moment/ << Trilema -- Probably the best personal blog of the moment
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