| 05:49 |
feedbot |
http://thetarpit.org/2020/on-computers << The Tar Pit -- On computers |
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~ 6 hours 1 minutes ~ |
| 11:50 |
feedbot |
http://ossasepia.com/2020/04/11/the-velvety-bloodsucker-the-twinheaded-dandy-and-other-euloran-hopefuls/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Velvety Bloodsucker, the Twinheaded Dandy and Other Euloran Hopefuls |
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~ 57 minutes ~ |
| 12:48 |
feedbot |
http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2020/preliminary-report-on-the-bitcoind-hex-conversion-mess/ << Fixpoint -- Preliminary report on the bitcoind hex conversion mess |
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~ 1 hours 24 minutes ~ |
| 14:12 |
diana_coman |
!!up cruciform |
| 14:12 |
deedbot |
You may not !!up yourself. |
| 14:12 |
diana_coman |
!!up #ossasepia cruciform |
| 14:12 |
deedbot |
cruciform voiced for 30 minutes. |
| 14:12 |
cruciform |
diana_coman, hi! couldn't !!up via deedbot |
| 14:13 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: did you go !!up #ossasepia ? |
| 14:13 |
diana_coman |
it needs the chan name now |
| 14:13 |
cruciform |
ah, that'll be it |
| 14:13 |
diana_coman |
try it again |
| 14:13 |
diana_coman |
!!down #ossasepia cruciform |
| 14:13 |
diana_coman |
hm, no? |
| 14:13 |
diana_coman |
lolz |
| 14:13 |
diana_coman |
!!help |
| 14:13 |
deedbot |
http://deedbot.org/help.html |
| 14:14 |
diana_coman |
trinque: the !!down seems to not work? |
| 14:16 |
cruciform |
diana_coman, are you well? I finally started feeling better yesterday - just waiting on my sense of smell to return :p |
| 14:17 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: I'm all right, thank you; and glad to hear you got better then, I gather you caught the virus in fashion there |
| 14:19 |
cruciform |
diana_coman, yea - not the most pleasant thing, but not sure why the whole economy needs shutting down over it |
| 14:19 |
diana_coman |
eh, the "over it" is because there had to be a reason given, lol. |
| 14:20 |
cruciform |
I suppose ya gotta have a pretext to run the money printers |
| 14:22 |
cruciform |
at any rate, olfaction isn't necessary for getting work done, so I guess I'll get to it starting tomorrow |
| 14:23 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: sounds reasonable; who wants to sniff work all that much anyway |
| 14:25 |
cruciform |
diana_coman, lol, yes - making my way through all the bad coffee and nasty tinned stuff I stockpiled, before I can taste it |
| 14:27 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: lol! did they run otherwise out of nasty stuff? or why stockpile on the nasty stuff in the first place? sounds rather masochistic to me |
| 14:28 |
diana_coman |
how does the thinking go - what if I don't get the chance of tasting nasty tinned stuff anymore? lolz |
| 14:32 |
cruciform |
yea, all they had left was nasty tomatoed mackerel - I'd figured it best to be safe after reading Taleb's twitter |
| 14:33 |
diana_coman |
o.O what did taleb twitter? |
| 14:33 |
* |
diana_coman admits to not follow twitter at all. |
| 14:33 |
cruciform |
he seems to think the virus is worth taking seriously - precautionary principle, and all that |
| 14:34 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: perhaps for him it's worth taking seriously (or at least twitting to take it seriously); that doesn't directly translate to much for you/someone else like that though |
| 14:36 |
diana_coman |
anyways, you have now a great article you could write - on the tomatoed mackerel effect (or similar). |
| 14:38 |
cruciform |
what do you mean that it doesn't translate to me? |
| 14:39 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: if A says that B is worth taking seriously, that comes with "for A, B is worth taking seriously"; now whether it's ALSO worth taking seriously by a C is a matter for C to decide and it's not always "if for A, then for C too" |
| 14:41 |
* |
diana_coman kind of doubts Taleb ended up eating nasty tinned tomatoed mackerel too, lolz. |
| 14:41 |
cruciform |
ah, Wittgenstein's Ruler - Taleb'd approve :) |
| 14:42 |
cruciform |
diana_coman, it's also very possible I caught the damn thing while shopping for said tomatoed nastiness, too |
| 14:42 |
diana_coman |
eh, approvals and disapprovals - I have a full collection of both and they both do still 0 for me. |
| 14:43 |
diana_coman |
ahahaha, now that is basically perfect lesson |
| 14:43 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: try !!up yourself and complain in pm if it's still not working |
| 14:45 |
diana_coman |
!!reputation cruciform |
| 14:45 |
deedbot |
http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=ZCNF |
| 14:45 |
diana_coman |
!!up #ossasepia cruciform |
| 14:45 |
deedbot |
cruciform voiced for 30 minutes. |
| 14:46 |
diana_coman |
trinque: can you clarify the rules that deedbot follows currently when deciding whether someone can !!up themselves or not? |
| 14:46 |
cruciform |
diana_coman, regarding dis/approvals - isn't that essentially the WoT? I suppose I've built up an implied trust for Taleb |
| 14:48 |
diana_coman |
cruciform: there are at least two layers to it at the very least, first of all trust is one thing, seeking approval is an entirely different thing; second, trusting what one says does *not* mean that you don't reason what the implications of it are *in your own context*. |
| 14:51 |
cruciform |
to the second point: that's something I frequently derp over |
| 14:54 |
diana_coman |
what can I say, I kind of always erred on the side of - might make my own mistakes but at least they are my OWN ffs. |
| 14:55 |
trinque |
diana_coman: not sure why !!down didn't work. I'll take a look. |
| 14:56 |
trinque |
http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=He3f << here's the good-standing-p func, which I altered with the thresholds we discussed previously |
| 14:56 |
trinque |
"lord" here means folks in your l1 |
| 14:57 |
trinque |
did somebody have trouble using !!up ? |
| 14:58 |
diana_coman |
trinque: cruciform says he tried !!up #ossasepia cruciform and deedbot still said he could not up himself; he has a rating of 1 from me; is that not enough for him to up himself? |
| 14:58 |
trinque |
yes, not enough per lemme find the thread |
| 15:00 |
diana_coman |
trinque: ah, I thought !!up self is different from !!up others, hm. |
| 15:00 |
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diana_coman goes to re-read the orig spec on trilema too |
| 15:01 |
trinque |
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-25#1022832 |
| 15:01 |
ossabot |
Logged on 2020-03-25 11:11:16 diana_coman: trinque: all right; I'll take your word for it then and therefore subscribe to your deedbot service; can it be made so that it allows self-voice in #ossasepia to those in my L1 with ratings > 2? |
| 15:01 |
diana_coman |
ah, right you are |
| 15:02 |
trinque |
at any rate, if you'd like to let folks with a 1 self-voice, I have no problem with that either. |
| 15:03 |
trinque |
and I did find the problem with !!down already, so that'll be fixed sometime this afternoon. |
| 15:05 |
diana_coman |
trinque: yeah, self-voice for folks with a 1 is good; sorry for messing you about there. |
| 15:05 |
trinque |
nbd |
| 15:08 |
jfw |
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-04-10#1024077 - sounds good, and indeed like very little needs to move, merely web-admin UI dropped. I seem to recall seeing cases where a bunch of settings were crammed into one record by serialization; would make sense to fix those for the sanity of manipulation through SQL. |
| 15:08 |
ossabot |
Logged on 2020-04-10 06:35:43 diana_coman: jfw: in short, no, I am not pushing for some db-extremism, everything lives in the db, db config itself and circular definitions be damned; I am however pushing for keeping configs to a minimum, for moving indeed ALL content (that includes the blog title and the tagline(s), ffs!) and for NOT carrying blindly over "knobs and settings" just because "users are used to them". |