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01:47 BingoBoingo diana_coman: Comment on http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/29/the-young-hands-club-moving-forwards/ in your mod hopper or spam hopper.
01:52 BingoBoingo diana_coman: Review and plan delayed this week by notes I've got to keep chewing through and some rather sore feet from that pursuit.
02:06 * BingoBoingo lost time last week, now that I'm shaving again to the pursuit of a civilized apparatus (unavailable in the local market at present) that holds a doube edged blade (readily available in the local market in quantity) so my neck can finally stop being angry 18 out of every 24 hours.
02:18 * BingoBoingo has already split the most blocking set of notes into a blog post draft (object: the motochorro that circled me several times, too timid to ask the question that is his trade)
02:24 * BingoBoingo has not experienced anything with a remotely similar flavor since shortly after arriving, and that suspicion has faded in the retrospect
02:27 BingoBoingo Predator was looking for prey as I was seeing how many kilometers I could put on the odometer without leaving my barrio. Dude made 7 approaches between km 6 and km 18 of my lsd spider polygons, but never closed to within 3 meters,
02:31 feedbot http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/jfw-plan-week-of-30-mar-2020/ << Young Hands Club -- JFW plan, week of 30 Mar 2020
02:32 * BingoBoingo would have liked to get that damned interview, but... In a city where the police regularly get robbed of their sidearms, apparently I'm a tricolor neon octopus.
02:33 whaack diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023181 Yes I want to analyze them and publish them, but I would like advise on how to do both. For the later, do I just host the .sql file? Do I create a log viewer that allows one to filter by network + channel? (I can dig up old logs / discussions to answer these questions, I know that I was once advised against making any browser
02:33 whaack based text filter tool)
02:33 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 05:23:06 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-28#1023177 - weren't you going to analyse and publish them or what do you mean?
02:36 feedbot http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/wh-review-of-week-24-mar-23rd-mar-29th/ << Young Hands Club -- WH Review of Week 24 (Mar 23rd - Mar 29th)
02:39 whaack BingoBoingo: lsd spider polygons? tricolor neon octopus? would you call your odometer test a "walk" or a "trip"?
02:43 BingoBoingo whaack: I was doing roughly circles, but I did not archictect the steet layout in my hood. For the neon octopus comment, the motochorro was obviously looking for old biddies purses and in the lack of those available tried seeking other prey. I don't know any other model for the way he consistently broke attempts at contact other than the natural signalling of poisonousness through bright colors I was not wearing
02:44 BingoBoingo whaack: jfw can explain a bit the strange way my hood is laid out.
02:45 BingoBoingo But anything more than a single block isn't going to be a simple quadrilateral
02:48 whaack BingoBoingo: ah now I understand, I did not get "lsd spider polygons" was a description of your walking path.
02:48 BingoBoingo whaack: It's alright. I didn't plan the path so much as I went trying to find people and came up short.
02:49 BingoBoingo Not just short, 63% of the bipeds on the ticker were known pichis.
02:51 whaack BingoBoingo: Did you protect yourself with the imagine-stabbing-the-vulnerable-to-get-the-right-facial-muscles technique?
02:51 ossabot Logged on 2020-01-19 16:54:41 BingoBoingo: whaack: That isn't necessarily an error on its own. You left out the failure to keep a hand in your pocket while taking some time to think about who the most stabbable people in the crowd are.
02:52 BingoBoingo whaack: For all I know he can smell smokeless powder in well seated bullets
02:52 * BingoBoingo also very not used to being beardless
02:54 whaack BingoBoingo: Can't say I follow what you mean by him being able to "smell smokeless powder in well seated bullets"
02:58 BingoBoingo whaack: So, before gunshot residue can be a thing, there's this material called gunpowder. It is normally stuck between a bullet, casing, and primer with a bit of fatty lubricant. Generally the assembly is airtight. As I made that utterance in question, I'm absolutely stumped at the motochorro's approach and refusal to close
02:59 BingoBoingo Smokeless power refers to the propellant of all,but the most retro bullets
03:03 BingoBoingo whaack: The intention was saying the dude may have have a sort of "spidey sense" that triggered on a something that absolutely should have been unknowable to him
03:04 BingoBoingo If you take something a bit smelly and imprison it in brass, fat, and lead, the prospects of the smell escaping are poor.
03:06 whaack BingoBoingo: Ah, thank you for spelling it out for me.
03:08 BingoBoingo whaack: Np, anyways the point is if the cue that had him breaking off was not obvious to me. Even if I may or may not have had great reasons for him to do so in my pocket, that information was opaque to me.
03:08 BingoBoingo Yet he did it again and again and again.
03:15 whaack diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023189 I will give the article another reread and see if I have something more substantial to say tomorrow, but this is in line with how I forsaw younghands adapting to the closure of tmsr so for now all I have to say/give is a nod of agreement/acknowledgement.
03:15 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 16:21:20 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023184 - BingoBoingo, lobbes, jfw, dorion, whaack let me know what you think there.
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03:35 feedbot http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/wh-plan-for-week-25-mar-30th-april-5th/ << Young Hands Club -- WH Plan For Week 25 (Mar 30th - April 5th)
03:42 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023194 - ah, I had it just generically "Sunday evening from 7pm utc onwards" but yes, you are right there.
03:42 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 16:49:10 lobbes: diana_coman: I was planning for our 7:30 UTC time slot. I will be digesting your latest article though; it did indeed touch on some of my concerns with myself even
03:46 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023202 - iirc bachcentral.com used to have something reasonable, don't they have it anymore?
03:46 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 18:58:55 jfw: In sadness from my day off, I've been unable to find online any properly sourced plain-text (or even scanned) rendition of any particular edition of the Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis, even at the basic level of (number, title, categories)
03:46 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023203 - cool, I'll do it in a minute.
03:46 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 19:17:47 trinque: diana_coman: deedbot is ready to join. if you'll issue the following command, I'll have it do so: /msg ChanServ flags #ossasepia deedbot +oO
03:47 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023204 - sounds reasonable.
03:47 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 19:19:58 trinque: we'll let things run for a week and see if any issues arise, and then I'll invoice at the end.
03:51 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023211 - no problem at all there; that's the whole point - find what works best within the overall framework which is structured so you have something to lean on but is not set in concrete to suffocate anything.
03:51 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 22:49:31 lobbes: diana_coman: In any case, I would like to remain a full member of the YHC. I don't want to go back to a playing a losing game. I wanted to ask you though: would you be opposed if I change my review/plan writing frequency to once a month? It is hard to explain, but I like having the latitude to improvise on a da
03:52 diana_coman and for that matter, things are *supposed to evolve* and therefore change anyway.
03:53 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023213 - fwiw that sounds more like "need to digest/reflect/take a break"; it doesn't really have to come with "sick of it" though, lolz.
03:53 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 22:49:44 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023190 << Some days/weeks/months I'll be very productive and can reflect on myself quite easily. Then other days/weeks I'll just get sick of everything (myself included) and I'll just "shut off" for a while. While this might sound odd on paper, I swear when I "turn back on" again I have newfound perspective and energy. I'm not even sure if this is a problem tbh
03:53 ericbot Logged on 2020-03-29 22:09:57 trinque: lobbes: I'm curious what part of you has the maturity to see your own flaws, and how you separate that from the other.
03:55 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023217 - as for lobbes above, if you find a different frequency better, go with it; tricolor octopus sounds good though.
03:55 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 03:12:12 BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Review and plan delayed this week by notes I've got to keep chewing through and some rather sore feet from that pursuit.
03:57 BingoBoingo diana_coman: I'll give a different frequency some thought, but right now it is more wrestling with the WTF of the world than the scheduling that got me off track.
03:58 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023224 - the easiest "publish" is a dump indeed, not sure *why* would you think you need anything more than that? I guess you can provide both .sql and .csv if you want to really provide options but that is all really as far as data itself goes (well, with some sig/checksum at least)
03:58 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 03:52:49 whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023181 Yes I want to analyze them and publish them, but I would like advise on how to do both. For the later, do I just host the .sql file? Do I create a log viewer that allows one to filter by network + channel? (I can dig up old logs / discussions to answer these questions, I know that I was once advised against making any browser
03:58 diana_coman BingoBoingo: tbh that's how it usually always is, heh
03:59 diana_coman whaack: the more dubious otherwise overall issue there is what exactly IS that data of yours given that your process is not all that clear&reliable as far as I can tell; and you know, data needs context to mean anything.
04:00 BingoBoingo diana_coman: So it seems. Just the waves this past month really seem to be tossing the boat quite a bit more than I have come to know.
04:02 BingoBoingo I mean when 9/11 happened in high school that was one thing. This present hysteric terror gripping the world is something else.
04:04 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023247 - lolz, there's no need for nod or approval/disapproval; there's a concrete question for you to answer - do you still want the level of involvement at "members" level or would you prefer less of it ie "hopefuls" ?
04:04 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 04:34:53 whaack: diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023189 I will give the article another reread and see if I have something more substantial to say tomorrow, but this is in line with how I forsaw younghands adapting to the closure of tmsr so for now all I have to say/give is a nod of agreement/acknowledgement.
04:07 diana_coman BingoBoingo: you know, I kept reading from several of you re 9/11 and I recalled the 1989 Ro revolution but dunno, for all its magnitude and all that, I still don't see that *moment* itself as much - it was the buildup and there was a whole lot more later on (the ~'92 for instance) but there in the moment...dunno.
04:08 diana_coman it might be though that I have a weird lens for this sort of things; who knows, I might even get around to write it at some point.
04:09 BingoBoingo diana_coman: Well, revolutions are internal, the buildup shows. A decerebrating strike like 9/11 only really offers a richness to plumb in retrospect.
04:10 BingoBoingo The Trumpening was visible, the world shutting down over a cold because the Chinese wanted to run a war game is... a big bag of wtf
04:19 BingoBoingo As best as I can tell, what happened with the virus of the season is it was spotted in wuhan at just the right time to get the Chicoms suspecting a US placement (whether there was or wasn't seems irrelevant outside of the messaging). The Chicoms responded by being more Chinese than ever, but the rest of the world fucked up and entered into a stotting show over how much they can afford to waste on a warm-ish fire drill.
04:21 diana_coman BingoBoingo: hm, I don't think so really; there's a lot there and I have only ~5 minutes left now but in short, the way I see it the "world shutting down over a cold" was quite visible really; ie sure, "not visible over *what* specific silly thing" but very visible that it will; because it couldn't quite keep going on the way it was set, as simple as that, and so shut down it had to; it found this conveniently and matching but that's ...
04:21 diana_coman ... quite irrelevant really.
04:22 diana_coman anyways, I'll be back at the usual 7pm utc
04:23 BingoBoingo diana_coman: ty, maybe I was just expecting a completely different flavor of silly thing. As recently as January Trump was teasing a serious thing to shut down over.
04:31 * BingoBoingo would not have been around without the clarity of the US/fiatist system's immanent failure being immanent for a long time, but... damn this was sudden. And incredibly wrapped in pre-text
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13:14 whaack diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023270 I am not able to answer this question so easily. I cast a wide logging "fishing net" over 100 networks. About 40% escaped being logged for some reason or another. For the other networks it appears I was able to successfully log their most populated channels for sometime between 14 and 36 days.
13:14 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 05:18:50 diana_coman: whaack: the more dubious otherwise overall issue there is what exactly IS that data of yours given that your process is not all that clear&reliable as far as I can tell; and you know, data needs context to mean anything.
13:24 whaack http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023273 << I would like to stay at the members level, aware that without change I am going to be wasting your time. I suggest we see how I can do this week and if I come up short again then we can call a spade a spade and put me in the hopefules section and formalize the reduce interaction I've had w/ younghands/#o. Things have been quite good
13:24 whaack here for me, and I'm going to try to use the positives as fuel for motivation to get stuff done.
13:24 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 05:24:04 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023247 - lolz, there's no need for nod or approval/disapproval; there's a concrete question for you to answer - do you still want the level of involvement at "members" level or would you prefer less of it ie "hopefuls" ?
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14:30 whaack Some of my logs - especially those written in lanaguages other than English - from TheFleet are filled with escape sequences from some encoding, I believe utf-8. Example: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=H9tu How should I go about displaying the characters determined by the escape sequences when I publish the logs on my blog? Or should I just leave them as is?
14:44 jfw trinque, whaack: paste.deedbot.org throwing a 500
14:46 jfw whaack: the logs are pretty big right? how about just linking a .sql.gz in uploads
14:46 jfw nobody's going to read them straight through like an actual article
14:46 jfw stats, however, would be interesting for the article
14:49 whaack jfw: strange, no 500 over here
14:51 jfw ah, the IP changed from my hosts file.
14:51 jfw 96.43.130.234 now for (paste
14:51 whaack jfw: My plan is to link the .sql.gz and then post some excerpts. I wanted to format those excerpts properly.
14:51 jfw * {paste.,wot.,}deedbot.org
14:53 jfw ah ok. IRC doesn't specify a character encoding so it's kind of a jungle, but things seem to be mostly utf8 these days from my limited samples.
14:54 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023287 - all right.
14:54 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 14:44:14 whaack: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023273 << I would like to stay at the members level, aware that without change I am going to be wasting your time. I suggest we see how I can do this week and if I come up short again then we can call a spade a spade and put me in the hopefules section and formalize the reduce interaction I've had w/ younghands/#o. Things have been quite good
14:54 jfw whaack: I'd guess it's something in your pipeline that's adding the \x#### escapes
14:56 diana_coman whaack: it's analysis, not excerpts you need to put in an article, lol; the raw data .sql/.csv (archived, sure or split if huge etc) but otherwise analysis with supporting charts or stats not excerpts (unless you are planning some even-more-time-consuming analysis but I seriously doubt that)
14:58 diana_coman whaack: as a rule, raw data is raw data; if you do *any* filtering/cleaning/whatever, you can publish the result too but you need to clearly add to it the full description of what you did there.
14:59 diana_coman trinque: I did set the flags for deedbot with chanserv; do let me know if it didn't work/something else is needed.
15:01 trinque cool, lets see if it works
15:01 dorion http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023189 - thanks. I'm giving it a second read now and working on a comment.
15:01 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-29 16:21:20 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023184 - BingoBoingo, lobbes, jfw, dorion, whaack let me know what you think there.
15:02 trinque !!gettrust diana_coman trinque
15:02 deedbot L1: 9, L2: 36 by 11 connections.
15:02 trinque woohoo!
15:03 diana_coman trinque: yeee!
15:03 trinque looks good so far; if there are any problems just ping me and I'll fix.
15:03 diana_coman trinque: is the wallet still with deedbot too?
15:03 trinque yep, wallet works
15:03 trinque !!balance
15:03 deedbot http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=xURc
15:03 trinque can do !!invoice in here, etc
15:04 diana_coman cool; I take it, it's quite the same set of commands so the help is still up to date, correct?
15:05 whaack diana_coman: Okay. My article I was baking for today/tomorrow was "how many channels/networks mentioned 'coronavirus', what were the conversations about 'coronavirus', etc." Should I keep with this or abort and just post some more general stats?
15:05 trinque yep I've updated !!help. the only big change is the set of parameters to !!up and !!down
15:05 diana_coman ah, I'll read it then and give it a spin; thanks!
15:06 diana_coman whaack: uhm, what's the focus on coronavirus now? lolz
15:06 trinque yw
15:06 feedbot http://younghands.club/2020/03/30/ar-review-march-23rd-29th-and-plan-march-30th-april-5/ << Young Hands Club -- AR Review March 23rd - 29th And Plan March 30th - April 5
15:06 diana_coman are you planning to troll with "how many channels did coronavirus infect for lack of social-channel-isolation" or what?
15:07 whaack diana_coman: I wanted to pick some example keyword, and I figured since "coronavirus" is a new string that has entered human heads it would perhaps lead me to some active conversations
15:07 whaack ^ loll
15:08 diana_coman ahaha, it's most likely less a topic of discussion than one of news & automated stuff really
15:08 diana_coman and no, discussion is not defined by "keywords", lol
15:09 whaack of course discussion is not defined by keywords, but searching for certain words over others maybe leads one to rooms where discussions occur?
15:09 diana_coman do some proper stats first of all; how many users per logged chan; how many of those said how many lines per interval etc; start with the basic question which was "how much activity is where"
15:09 diana_coman whaack: I can't see any logic there.
15:10 diana_coman I mean maybe, sure, maybe anything; if you have the right incantation, it might lead you to where discussions occur, certainly.
15:11 diana_coman whaack: now I realise that hm; are you even aware of different chart types and which ones are useful for showing/visualising what?
15:13 diana_coman data visualisation is a huge domain in itself but hm, basics first; and in any case, start with the original question and aim first to have and publish a *summary of the data*; that being said, do mind if /how much rubbish your collection process might have inserted,ahem; data quality is yet another part of it,lolz.
15:14 diana_coman whaack: on a basic level understand that the whole point of systematic anything is precisely != pick a magic word at random as it might lead somewhere better than another, lol.
15:15 whaack diana_coman: ^ Hardly. Maybe this is just some excuse but I got so used to seeing charts of what I believed was biased data displayed by people I don't trust to make political arguments so I came to disregard the utility of graphs all together.
15:18 diana_coman whaack: ahaha, poor graphs; they are not at fault there!
15:18 diana_coman and yes, you can do lots of nonsense with pretty charts, certainly
15:19 diana_coman hm, I had an example of doing exactly that, quite purposefully , hm
15:20 diana_coman ah, it's in Ro sadly, here though: http://ossasepia.com/2010/09/01/ce-poti-face-cu-niste-date/
15:20 diana_coman basically an "analysis" of the ...length of titles on trilema.com , lolz
15:20 whaack I think more generally I became allergic to arguments that use data
15:20 diana_coman with perfect charts and everything else, it was quite some fun.
15:21 diana_coman whaack: lol; allergies are not that ..healthy
15:21 whaack haha, well maybe in a couple years after I get a little farther with Spanish I'll start tackling Romanian and then be able to read the article
15:22 jfw http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023230 - I recall it as a number of grids fused together at odd angles to follow the curve of the coast
15:22 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 04:04:19 BingoBoingo: whaack: jfw can explain a bit the strange way my hood is laid out.
15:22 BingoBoingo jfw: Aha, with the substantial danger in travel time of grids with many not-quite parallel streets
15:26 jfw http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023252 - they do, but their data is messier than their frontend bargains for. Eg: on http://bachcentral.com/BWV/index.html there's two different "28"s, that link to... the same detail page; and the #231 that was renamed at some unknown point to "28/2a" or some such, isn't shown at all. That was just the first thing I hit.
15:26 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 05:05:46 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023202 - iirc bachcentral.com used to have something reasonable, don't they have it anymore?
15:28 diana_coman jfw: heh, so ...genesis bach-werke-verzeichnis in the works?
15:29 jfw diana_coman: quite possible, maybe I find some unemployed waiters to transcribe from paper
15:30 diana_coman maybe I should even translate that illustration of nonsense through scientific method application, huh.
15:31 diana_coman jfw: and then some unemployed chefs to correct the transcription? lolz
15:32 bvt diana_coman: i've been updating vtools to bytewise keccak (for 2x perf improvement), and discovered a discrepancy between eucrypt.smg_keccak ch15 and ch16 behavior, the test case is at bvt-trace.net/pub/smg_keccak_test.tgz ; it seems that the transform at http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_ch16_bytestream_keccak#L146 is not necessary (removing it fixes the issue), but i believe you're in a better position
15:32 bvt to tell, as i did not do a deep dive into the impl and spec
15:33 diana_coman bvt: interesting, thank you; I'll have a look at it.
15:33 jfw diana_coman: I suppose it'd be inevitable.
15:34 diana_coman bvt: the spec was SUCH a pain with the bits/bytes and order that ~anything is possible; but I'll need to get back to it as it's been quite a while; I'll let you know.
15:36 bvt no problem
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17:07 diana_coman trinque: is the deposit amount in btc or in satoshis (ie float or int)?
17:07 diana_coman also, the help page still lists RSS - does deedbot still do/do you plan it to do rss as well?
17:08 diana_coman !!gettrust diana_coman
17:08 deedbot L1: 0, L2: 58 by 18 connections.
17:09 diana_coman ahaha, I don't trust myself AT ALL !
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17:35 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of ave1 from 9 to 2 << great gnat/ada work; can't quite talk; writes at ave1.org
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17:37 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of lobbes from 9 to 4 << YH member; long history; writes at blog.lobbesblog.com
17:37 diana_coman !!v 76D7198CCADC425E737787F10DF3C700DEC9C2745AC169738B7C0F4E82E13897
17:37 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of Mocky from 9 to 2 << went to qatar; made mockybot for eulora; met irl.
17:38 diana_coman !!v FE75EB2ACC47DCF96095BBD9CF0FA8474A65007CDA7E5053D144FE0AC605FDBB
17:38 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of mod6 from 9 to 4 << trb code work; writes at mod6.net
17:38 diana_coman !!v 42BB18CFAE085DC03FF9281300B98B7EAE2DA1E0D59E039F90D8D04B1FE643DB
17:38 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of spyked from 9 to 5 << met irl; long history; writes at thetarpit.org
17:38 diana_coman !!v 74E4305E7192C5D4F5F35A78561E06BAC82BC3E57A7720FD0601DDCFAAC46CD7
17:38 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of thimbronion from 2 to 2 << former YH member; writes for BingoBoingo's newspaper and at thimbron.com
17:38 diana_coman !!v 450FDF58A79F0E0F8AB24E37C17E2290A2A5020F67AFE2EBB2E16E3F371F7485
17:38 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of trinque from 9 to 4 << owns deedbot; long history; writes at trinque.org
17:39 diana_coman !!v 8B563FE59B238D8DB67B25EE0FCC24115A3410F9F20066C82CFEDA6A33CE57B7
17:39 deedbot diana_coman updated rating of whaack from 2 to 2 << YH member; writes at ztkfg.com
17:40 diana_coman !!up #ossasepia whaack
17:40 deedbot whaack voiced for 30 minutes.
17:41 diana_coman cool; I'll devoice everyone in my L1 - you should be able to !!up yourselves with deedbot ; if it doesn't work, pm me or trinque about it.
17:45 diana_coman !!up cruciform2
17:45 deedbot You may not !!up yourself.
17:45 diana_coman trinque: ^ ?
17:45 diana_coman !!up #ossasepia cruciform2
17:45 deedbot cruciform2 voiced for 30 minutes.
17:45 diana_coman ah, nm.
17:46 diana_coman !!key cruciform2
17:46 deedbot Not registered.
17:46 diana_coman !!key cruciform
17:46 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/4E18288CAA6A98F4C51066053B6F4A8387D54AC6.asc
17:50 diana_coman !!v 76EC35E7E4726FADE9C743B2D1097962734974B08E50572BAE9996C77BEAEC3C
17:50 deedbot diana_coman rated cruciform 1 << YH hopeful.
17:51 diana_coman cruciform2: you'll need to reconnect with the nick on which you registered the key and then try !!up with deedbot for voice.
17:53 * diana_coman will be back tomorrow.
17:55 trinque diana_coman: ah thanks, I've removed the reference to rss.
17:55 trinque feedbot handles that very well.
17:56 trinque incidentally spyked may I have feedbot in #trinque ?
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18:17 jfw !!v 237CEA2FADE8B436ADEA99C798C0E85B8DBC58377333ACAD05E2536DC7FDAD27
18:17 deedbot jfw rated jfw_unchecked 10 << Me, per http://welshcomputing.com/jfw_unchecked-cert.asc
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21:29 jfw I've been thinking it's high time for a genesis of the Gales Linux repository, and ideally to cut down on the inclusion of tarballs by reference. Post-TMSR-OS or no, JWRD's using Gales now so we need to keep it maintained. In theory, I'm seeing making a stronger division between base system and gports, where the former lives entirely in-tree and the latter remains tarballs on a mirror. In
21:29 jfw practice, another cut seems important, of importing the "almost-human-sized-if-you-squint" stuff (busybox, e2fsprogs, make, lilo, daemontools, gksh, ...), and leaving the truly massive ones that might benefit anyway from greater version flexibility namely linux and gcc.
21:31 * jfw savors the thought of some day ripping the Unicode tables out of musl, wondering what will break
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21:49 lobbes http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023258 << thank you (as usual I'm glad I asked!). Okay, in that case I'm going to aim to get my review for March + plan for April out by Wednesday.
21:49 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 05:10:51 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023211 - no problem at all there; that's the whole point - find what works best within the overall framework which is structured so you have something to lean on but is not set in concrete to suffocate anything.
21:49 lobbes http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-30#1023261 << lol, yeah that is true; I may have exaggerated a bit there. "Reflect/recharge/etc" is a more apt description indeed
21:49 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-30 05:12:33 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-29#1023213 - fwiw that sounds more like "need to digest/reflect/take a break"; it doesn't really have to come with "sick of it" though, lolz.
21:50 lobbes diana_coman: I also wanted to ask you: assuming that I get the mp-wp bot logger thing to the point where you'd want to try it for #ossasepia, would you want to host it on one of your existing boxes or would you want a fresh one?
21:50 lobbes I ask because I'm still renting that server in Brasil and don't mind holding it for a bit if you'd have a use for it. Otherwise, I'm gonna go ahead and cancel it and save some dubaloos
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