#ossasepia | 2020-03-05

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http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-04#1020075 - and just 'cause diana_coman was running off didn't mean there was no point responding, so: seems it morphed in my head from what was written to the phrase "high-strung" as I'd heard it more. I think I get it; makes more sense as applied to the writing than to an instrument though, they don't seem to mind being tuned and in fact demand it

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Logged on 2020-03-04 17:59:29 diana_coman: jfw: ah, not at all stuffy/bombastic/pretentious, no; and not nervous either; and note that I use adverbs correctly, it's highly (not "high") strung for a reason! if you think of how you tighten/loosen up strings on a guitar, that's pretty much the analogy there - you kept stretching and tuning and fiddling with it that the result is a highly strung (and generally too tightly but not only that) text/string.

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00:25	jfw	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-04#1020075 - and just 'cause diana_coman was running off didn't mean there was no point responding, so: seems it morphed in my head from what was written to the phrase "high-strung" as I'd heard it more. I think I get it; makes more sense as applied to the writing than to an instrument though, they don't seem to mind being tuned and in fact demand it
00:25	ossabot	Logged on 2020-03-04 17:59:29 diana_coman: jfw: ah, not at all stuffy/bombastic/pretentious, no; and not nervous either; and note that I use adverbs correctly, it's highly (not "high") strung for a reason! if you think of how you tighten/loosen up strings on a guitar, that's pretty much the analogy there - you kept stretching and tuning and fiddling with it that the result is a highly strung (and generally too tightly but not only that) text/string.
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02:56	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-04#1020087 - ah, perfect then! say I want to see what was in the paste given there - how do I find the link to the bot's archived version?
02:56	ossabot	Logged on 2020-03-04 23:02:37 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-27#1019473 << I missed this earlier, but archiving should already be occurring in this channel. Currently lobbesbot is set to silently snarf urls-to-parse from all channels it sits in, so this channel ought to be covered
02:56	ossabot	Logged on 2020-03-04 16:47:26 BingoBoingo: This is the most recent 'churn3' I've produced http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=VxhL
02:56	ericbot	Logged on 2020-02-27 13:03:46 diana_coman: lobbes: how does that link-archiving work, can I have it in here too or what does it require?
02:58	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-05#1020089 - indeed there's point in responding! (and glad I didn't have to chase it up, too) ; re instrument - it's one thing to tune it, sure; it's another thing to tighten the string TOO much, that's the thing; it makes the very same sense for instrument as for writing - tuning is fine, but too much/incorrect "tuning" will sound rather poorly/break stuff.
02:58	ossabot	Logged on 2020-03-05 01:42:19 jfw: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-04#1020075 - and just 'cause diana_coman was running off didn't mean there was no point responding, so: seems it morphed in my head from what was written to the phrase "high-strung" as I'd heard it more. I think I get it; makes more sense as applied to the writing than to an instrument though, they don't seem to mind being tuned and in fact demand it
02:59	diana_coman	jfw: and I'd say the asking in #t re sigs was useful and productive, possibly not even as difficult as it seemed, was it?
03:03	diana_coman	speaking of which - dorion, did that point make full sense for you in the end? or is it still rather fuzzy in parts/overall/unsure?
03:05	ossabot	(trilema) 2020-03-04 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-02#1958772 << in retrospect, i suspect maybe you don't take my meaning.
03:05	diana_coman	one full minute for ossabot to act, sheesh
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10:38	dorion	diana_coman pretty sure it makes full sense.
10:44	jfw	diana_coman: ah ok. And yeah, the asking was useful & not too difficult.
10:49	jfw	diana_coman: are you familiar with Knuth's approach to literate programming (possibly he coined the term)? I took a peek down that rabbit hole, seems like there might be something to learn there before we go reinventing comment characters
10:56	jfw	in the interests of openness, mini-thread from across the river yesterday: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-03-04#1008422
10:56	snsabot	(asciilifeform) 2020-03-04 jfw: And since I was poked about it: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-02-05#1006048 - doesn't seem to describe what MP has in mind, though I could see it as the first guess from initial description.
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12:19	dorion	diana_coman in working on the history of main actors in Bitcoin article, I'm struggling most with the introduction in that it seems like I should put Bitcoin in context of other currencies/payment systems.
12:20	dorion	or at least I think doing so would build a stronger context for why the reader ought to care anything about Bitcoin in the first place.
12:21	dorion	In my own experience, the driving force that ultimately lead me to Bitcoin was the realization of the problems with first fiat, then the disadvantages of gold compared to Bitcoin.
12:21	dorion	It seems most people remain content with fiat because they've not looked at it critically.
12:27	dorion	one precursor article I have in mind would show how the fiat bureaucrats have been deliberately undermining currency. another would show how their system creates the bubbles they then blame on capitalism.
12:31	dorion	I can then also layer on what I learned about the centralization of the correspondent banking system while working with euro pacific bank.
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13:54	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-05#1020102 - cool then.
13:54	ossabot	Logged on 2020-03-05 11:55:45 dorion: diana_coman pretty sure it makes full sense.
13:57	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-05#1020104 - to some extent (though I esp recall his literate/illiterate vs structured/unstructured, heh); iirc he proposed in fact an even stricter separation of code from comments since his "language" (web was it called?) was meant to have then 2 processors, one for generating the code (aka for machine execution and so absolutely unreadable) and one for generating the book (aka for ...
13:57	ossabot	Logged on 2020-03-05 12:05:59 jfw: diana_coman: are you familiar with Knuth's approach to literate programming (possibly he coined the term)? I took a peek down that rabbit hole, seems like there might be something to learn there before we go reinventing comment characters
13:57	diana_coman	... human consumption and so meant literally as a "book of this program")
13:58	diana_coman	jfw: thinking of it now I think he just picked some "special chars" and the like, basically had two interpreters/processors and that was that; did you have something specific in mind from there?
14:03	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-05#1020105 - jfw, would you mind summarising that mini-thread for me? The snr there used to be so bad I had stopped reading it altogether (though kept logging it for a while merely for not getting around to cleanup time) but trying to read it now following your link I even fail to extract any signal at all.
14:03	ossabot	Logged on 2020-03-05 12:13:15 jfw: in the interests of openness, mini-thread from across the river yesterday: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-03-04#1008422