#ossasepia | 2020-02-15

05:42

Well, no reason I couldn't have had an article out today, besides this accursed inner force that apparently doesn't want me to get (certain) things done and holds me back; as it held me back from getting presentations prepared expeditiously. I ask it - why? So far it doesn't answer. I recall also the advice to ignore it.

05:48

jfw

Then on reading that back the thought flits by: "quit complaining about inner forces and just do things already!"

05:56

jfw

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-14#1018415 - good point, I could be a better Socrates, the point is to be helpful rather than to "win"

05:56

ossabot

Logged on 2020-02-14 03:41:46 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-14#1018408 - tsk; jfw, add simply the question(s) they never asked themselves properly before spewing the common nonsense; in this case: why do you want to increase mass adoption? (and then from there on, until they run into whatever walls they choose, sure).

05:57

jfw

g'night all; and the last of those holiday pics WILL be published!

06:04

whaack

diana_coman: EOD Report: G: Read and tested out your vcodectrl scripts. WTI: Take more advantage of tools written by folks around here (jfw your clocking tool comes to mind) B: Woke up late (10am) WTI: Follow my own advice I gave to lobbes. I made the mistake last night of doing late night trilema reading.

~ 2 hours 20 minutes ~

08:24

05:42	jfw	Well, no reason I couldn't have had an article out today, besides this accursed inner force that apparently doesn't want me to get (certain) things done and holds me back; as it held me back from getting presentations prepared expeditiously. I ask it - why? So far it doesn't answer. I recall also the advice to ignore it.
05:48	jfw	Then on reading that back the thought flits by: "quit complaining about inner forces and just do things already!"
05:56	jfw	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-14#1018415 - good point, I could be a better Socrates, the point is to be helpful rather than to "win"
05:56	ossabot	Logged on 2020-02-14 03:41:46 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-14#1018408 - tsk; jfw, add simply the question(s) they never asked themselves properly before spewing the common nonsense; in this case: why do you want to increase mass adoption? (and then from there on, until they run into whatever walls they choose, sure).
05:57	jfw	g'night all; and the last of those holiday pics WILL be published!
06:04	whaack	diana_coman: EOD Report: G: Read and tested out your vcodectrl scripts. WTI: Take more advantage of tools written by folks around here (jfw your clocking tool comes to mind) B: Woke up late (10am) WTI: Follow my own advice I gave to lobbes. I made the mistake last night of doing late night trilema reading.
		~ 2 hours 20 minutes ~
08:24	diana_coman	whaack: and sign vpatches, too!
08:29	diana_coman	jfw: the trouble with all this "holding back" is that it has some significant costs that also accumulate, even if it might not seem so in the moment; for one obvious thing, the way the work on the presentations went was quite bureaucratic in manner - you'll end up taking whatever time is available but not really making the most of it; and fwiw the wallet work seems to follow the same pattern.
08:33	diana_coman	if there's no "why" then it means it's "for no good reason" and so -> ignore it already; note also that if you ~always get to work only if/when under pressure, then the logical result is that you'll end up ~always under pressure.
08:34	diana_coman	it's not a healthy thing (although it can even feel good in an unsustainable way, sure).
		~ 10 hours 42 minutes ~
19:16	jfw	diana_coman: the bureaucratic manner of time usage hadn't occurred to me but seems apt, huh.
19:17	jfw	the ending up always under pressure makes complete sense
19:18	diana_coman	jfw: not to mention that management is by definition stuck with doing what works, so dunno, maybe you'd rather make sure there's something other than pressure that... works, you know?
19:20	jfw	being curious about or interested in something does work, though seemingly not on demand
19:21	diana_coman	jfw: also, what's wrong with/why don't you purposefully maximize benefits of any work you do?
19:22	jfw	Nothing wrong with. Maybe I'm not accustomed to thinking about how to do that
19:22	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-15#1018430 - how do you mean this?
19:22	ossabot	Logged on 2020-02-15 15:33:58 jfw: being curious about or interested in something does work, though seemingly not on demand
19:24	diana_coman	http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-02-15#1018432 - the way it looks from here is that you ~never quite consider that at all really.
19:24	ossabot	Logged on 2020-02-15 15:35:45 jfw: Nothing wrong with. Maybe I'm not accustomed to thinking about how to do that
19:25	jfw	I mean that I'm not too aware of when or why that kind of motivation comes or goes, or how to make it more useful for me
19:26	diana_coman	that sounds like you need to develop a healthier curiosity, heh.
19:27	jfw	exactly
19:28	jfw	well hm, healthier as in generally larger? or... better somehow?
19:28	diana_coman	jfw: of a better quality & substance, yes.
19:29	jfw	How might I go about that then?
19:29	diana_coman	the way you describe it there, it really sounds more like "whims" although I wouldn't have said those fit you very well otherwise/generally.
19:33	*	diana_coman curses not being able to find a ref that was exactly on this.
19:33	diana_coman	jfw: the core of it would be more... systematic curiosity, heh.
19:35	diana_coman	as with everything else related to yourself, it also starts with actually looking at what and how it currently does (not) work for you, exactly; so take an example of something where you started curious/interested and then it ..vanished - where/why/when
19:41	jfw	I was & still am having trouble thinking of an example there; perhaps I put it badly as "comes and goes". Certainly things can get more difficult as you go deeper & require re-dedication - the wallet's an example there - or get buried by more pressing needs
19:44	diana_coman	hm, do you mean that difficult stuff kills your curiosity or what?
19:44	jfw	examples for the second being my scheme interpreter and gports work, which I haven't touched in quite some time though they're a ways from where I'd like them to be
19:44	jfw	no, doesn't kill the curiosity
19:45	jfw	more of a, "huh, this mountain is taller than I realized, better decide if I still want it"
19:45	diana_coman	jfw: ahaha
19:45	diana_coman	~all mountains are taller than they seem at first.
19:45	jfw	that can be the fun of it too.