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01:49 whaack diana_coman: EOD Report: I spent most of my day working on my article. It took roughly 5-6 hours. I've only done about 2 hours of saltmines, and my neighbor stopped by and invited me to Christmas Eve dinner with her family, which I think is right to accept. I will consider that Spanish study again, and just go short on my saltmines hours for the week.
01:50 whaack diana_coman: and btw, Merry Christmas!
~ 7 hours ~
08:50 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-24#1013900 - nice find, works indeed!
08:50 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-24 18:59:12 whaack: I discovered today you can go to Appearance->Widgets and then click the "edit" button on Recent Posts under Current Widgets and change the title to, for example, "Recent Articles"
08:51 diana_coman and Merry Christmas everyone!
08:51 diana_coman whaack: EOD sounds good, I'll read the article later today too.
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09:55 diana_coman whaack: http://ztkfg.com/2019/12/thefleet-a-systematic-exploration-of-the-irc-space/#comment-136 - it's all in there really but in short, automated processing & filtering first.
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11:00 DKordic whaack: Check out https://tools.suckless.org/ii/ . I don't use it, C is a stupid joke. I found it interesting.
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14:33 diana_coman DKordic: suckless aka cat-v is not unknown around here; see http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-search?q=suckless&chan=trilema and http://trilema.com/2016/cat-vorg-adnotated/
14:37 diana_coman DKordic: why won't you register a key with deedbot anyway?
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15:12 whaack diana_coman: ack re not needing the interface. i'd much rather spend my time learning awk and/or R then making yet another webpage.
15:18 whaack diana_coman: My interaction with the pcgamingcr rep unfortunately makes me think that there is a possibility you were right about them scamming me and selling me a used part. The dishonesty began with the SD card reader. Not only did they not tell me that it was missing before I went to go pick up the package, but they never told me to begin with that it was backordered. I gather once they knew I would be waiting for the RAM they f
15:18 whaack igured they could pretend everything else was in stock. The other glaring missing item that I did not realize is the FUCKING MOUSE AND KEYBOARD. I messaged them about that and they were like 'oh yeah same problem - out of stock.' But I don't believe them because when I was ordering I said something like any cheap mouse/keyboard will do, so I don't see why they would pick one that would need to be ordered. I think they just forgot a
15:18 whaack nd are lying.
15:19 whaack diana_coman: on top of all this, the rep dodges any question that makes him culpable, refuses to answer my calls, and ignores my requests to set a time to talk
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15:58 whaack DKordic: If I can't find another way to get the channel data from the /list command, then this might come in handy. Other than that I don't see how it'd be useful for TheFleet. I would rather my data in an index'd postgres db than structured as a unix file tree. Thanks for the link
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16:49 BingoBoingo whaack: This looks like something where hanbot might have some useful insights into how you can effectively pursue some sort of remedy
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17:12 DKordic diana_coman: I have no idea what is a DeedBot :) .
17:12 DKordic Cryptography is SciFi for me.
17:25 whaack DKordic: deedbot is a tool of The Most Serene Republic that among other functions stores a set of gpg keys and provides a graph of ratings that owners of the keys have given to other keys. http://wot.deedbot.org/
17:27 whaack DKordic: Without a registered gpg key, you have no identity. Whose to say you are the same DKordic that was here a couple of weeks ago?
17:36 DKordic Good point. ATM DeedBot doesn't seem interesting to me at all.
17:37 DKordic Not in the foreseeable future.
17:40 DKordic Re: cat-v.org: Yes, they are C programmers.
17:42 whaack hanbot: ^ Here is the quick summary of what BingoBoingo believes you may be able to give insight into. I spoke with a rep from pcgamingcr through Whatsapp for a week or so to establish a list of computer parts + accessories to order. When I picked up the package there were problems. First, they took the parts I ordered out of their boxes and assembled 90% of a computer. As diana_coman mentioned I have no way to know if the parts th
17:42 whaack ey sold me are new. Second, there were items I ordered that were missing: an sd card reader, a mouse, and a keyboard. What I would like to do is (1) convince them to pay the extra to deliver to my door for the remaining parts OR get a speedy refund. (2) probe to see if the parts they sold me were new or used. (2) is albeit a bit silly because afaik all I can do is ask and use poker skills to see if they are lying. So far I have ask
17:42 whaack ed for an explanation as to why they did not inform me of the missing parts before i picked up the computer. They dodge every phrasing of the question, responding, "the parts are not there because they have not yet arrived from our manufacturer."
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18:33 diana_coman whaack: re data, if the bot spits it out directly to db, you might even get away with cleaning in sql directly or something; you'll still find R useful afterwards for processing.
18:34 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-25#1013918 - so why didn't you simply ask, you know? don't you *want* to find stuff out?
18:34 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-25 13:21:19 DKordic: diana_coman: I have no idea what is a DeedBot :) .
18:37 diana_coman DKordic: there's the guide written for Eulora - you may still find useful the key generation + registration part. But seriously, you are way better off asking for stuff to do than silently hanging around. What is *not* sci-fi to you?
18:39 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-25#1013922 - this is militant ignorance speaking; the fact that it's not "interesting to you" means simply that you are totally clueless atm; it is *important* and therefore you should *get interested*, not derp about that oh noez, not interesting to me atm, as if you were some measure of interestingness in this world.
18:39 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-25 13:45:23 DKordic: Good point. ATM DeedBot doesn't seem interesting to me at all.
18:41 diana_coman whaack: what a mess; apparently in cr you either go to the shop or otherwise have a ton of trouble; what do they say about the missing parts, are you meant to wait indefinitely or what?
18:45 whaack diana_coman: they did not give a status update on the missing parts, they only said they would refund me if they can't get them. as mentioned before I suspect they have the keyboard+mouse and are lying about them being backordered, and i bet they are having trouble finding the SD card reader altogether
18:46 diana_coman whaack: it does sound very hard to believe they don't have *any* mouse and keyboard, for sure.
18:47 whaack diana_coman: right, i asked them for any cheap mouse+keyboard, why would they pick something they don't have? and they didn't mention it when they admitted to not having the memory card reader. I think they simply forgot, and they have demonstrated by avoiding questions they will not admit their own fault
18:49 diana_coman whaack: did you ask them now to ship whatever kbd and mouse? their "backorder" or whatevers is not your problem after all.
18:50 whaack diana_coman: no, i can do that now
18:51 diana_coman iirc hanbot said she always picked the stuff up so possibly that's really ~the only way to avoid such mess in cr.
18:51 diana_coman whaack: it's up to you really ie what do you want exactly as resolution to this mess?
18:54 whaack diana_coman: The missing keyboard/mouse/memory card/ + preassembled computer bs, while quite annoying, is not so big a deal. I'll ask for a refund and have my mother whose visiting soon bring what I'm missing. I have a keyboard I should be able to use for now, and can otherwise go to Santa Cruz to get a keyboard/mouse.
18:56 diana_coman so then get the refund and be done with them; hurray for mothers everywhere otherwise :P
18:58 whaack diana_coman: the only issue I care about, is whether or not the parts I bought are used or new. The question then is if I knew they were used, which I should assume is the case, do I want to argue for a full refund? My answer is no, the hassle will be way too much and I will still learn from building my own machine. Also, I'd much rather use a machine I put together with AMD over intel running a linux distro than a mac.
18:59 diana_coman whaack: kind of hard to actually know now; you can still ask them to ship to you the manuals because they should have them if new.
19:00 diana_coman and I guess you can press with a "if not manuals then it's 2nd hand so you take it back and refund me" or similar.
19:00 diana_coman did you check in the end that all parts are at least precisely what you ordered?
19:01 whaack diana_coman: no, I'll do that today after I'm done with my article when I dissemble the machine
19:01 diana_coman ok.
19:13 DKordic diana_coman: Exactly, I am not a measure at all.
19:27 asciilifeform whaack, diana_coman : does cr have fascist customs, like e.g. BingoBoingostan ? cuz if not, i can eat coin & have any iron you like sent there
19:28 * asciilifeform sent a crate of FG, back when mp was there, an' it arrived w/ 0 wank. tho admittedly this could have been blind luck
19:39 diana_coman DKordic: so are you getting interested in what matters, then?
19:40 diana_coman asciilifeform: I suspect this was a local flavour of mess-up really, nothign to do with customs as such.
19:42 asciilifeform diana_coman: aite. but if fella is in the americas and wants irons that the aboriginals can't or won't stock, possibly can help.
19:43 diana_coman asciilifeform: noted and thank you!
19:46 * DKordic is looking at TMSR OS...
19:47 diana_coman DKordic: do you realise you *need* an identity as a pre-requisite for *everything* around here?
19:48 DKordic OK, I will be back one day.
19:48 diana_coman DKordic: and you know, if you are looking at tmsr-os, you are in the right place; however, if you want to do more than just look forever, you'll have to speak up, ask and learn.
19:48 diana_coman DKordic: what do you think that will do? why not do something now while you are here?
19:50 * DKordic thinks...
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20:22 hanbot http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-25#1013940 << indeed, and letting the sales end string you along for a week over chatting is the red flag to look out for in the future. i trust the chair people didn't hmm and haw and maybe they'll order an armrest here and glue it on plz wait an' see etc. sorry to hear you ran into such trouble tho'. i hope your box comes together soon, been an odyssey huh!
20:22 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-25 14:59:58 diana_coman: iirc hanbot said she always picked the stuff up so possibly that's really ~the only way to avoid such mess in cr.
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20:49 whaack asciilifeform: idk what is the criteria for facist customs. They charge a large impuesto but afaik everything makes it through. Unless it is biomatter, then the environmentalist squad confiscates and torches it.
20:49 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-23 18:22:07 whaack: diana_coman: I have a bad experience of going to Guatemala for a local artist to pick up four bags of Flor De Madera, a wood that is distorted through fungal growth. The customs agents took all four bags and torched the wood because we didn't have a paper saying that it was treated.
20:56 whaack hanbot: the chair people + cococo had some tiny quirks but relatively/retrospectively they were great to work with. especially cococo, they are the only business so far that has followed up on their offer to deliver to my door.
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21:34 dorion_road http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-24#1013883 << thanks for the recommendation, I've yet to read Popper so will start with him when I start.
21:34 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-24 13:09:22 diana_coman: dorion_road: btw, re Kant, if you just start reading philosophy, I recommend you start with Popper at least, it'll be both easier to follow and of more immediate interest to you I'd think.
~ 40 minutes ~
22:15 whaack before I take apart and put back together the machine assembled by the ticos, I'm trying to view the bios screen. Nothing is coming out of the display port cable, is there some basic trouble shooting I should do?
22:18 * whaack got it working by restarting the machine and switching to an hdmi cable.
22:30 whaack I'm going to start taking everything apart and putting it back together. Meanwhile I am downloading the centos 6.9 minimal iso found on the mirror here: http://archive.kernel.org/centos-vault/6.9/isos/x86_64/
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23:03 trinque some GPUs take their own power cable.
23:03 * trinque bbl
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