| 03:55 |
whaack |
diana_coman: EOD report : I fixed the crontab issue and setup apache/php on my toliet box + wrote a script that takes the the backup data and recreates my blog locally. I can confirm now with much more confidence that my blog is being backed up safely. I spent the rest of the day editing/finishing my Conrad post. That took much longer than the predicted 3hr - I spent closer to 6.5 hours. I will use extra time during my saltmine day |
| 03:55 |
whaack |
s to tackle the 2h journaling block I had scheduled for today. |
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~ 4 hours 21 minutes ~ |
| 08:16 |
diana_coman |
whaack: the backup sounds finally fine; re writing heh, keep that in mind at next "estimate" of timing, you know? |
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~ 1 hours 18 minutes ~ |
| 09:35 |
diana_coman |
whaack: do apply that mp-wp fix to keep trackbacks out of comments |
| 09:37 |
diana_coman |
whaack dorion_road you might want to increase the number of comments and posts shown in the sidebar, as 5 is rather little when there's quite the discussion going on; it's an easy change too. |
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~ 4 hours 52 minutes ~ |
| 14:29 |
whaack |
diana_coman: mhm I thought 3h was generous because I thought my article was already completed - but on reread I saw it needed major restructuring. I will apply the mp-wp fix within the next two days, for now I increased the number of comments/posts (btw dorion_road that's just a setting on the dashboard under appearances->widgets) |
| 14:32 |
whaack |
diana_coman: I'm going to go surf for a bit, not an escape I swear, the waves look great and I hardly left the house once yesterday / could use some exercise. |
| 14:33 |
diana_coman |
whaack: enjoy! |
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~ 4 hours 44 minutes ~ |
| 19:18 |
diana_coman |
jfw: is this keccak background the result of 1.5 hours + 0.5hrs planning? |
| 19:22 |
jfw |
diana_coman: closer to 4 hours :( |
| 19:25 |
jfw |
in part I ended up doing some digging despite having initially wanted to keep scope to what I could do right then without it |
| 19:25 |
jfw |
...so I guess I can't really be said to have decided on scope after all |
| 19:27 |
diana_coman |
jfw: aha; it even read a bit like "he's not FULLY decided on which way to go and which way to not go"; hence my question; hmm. |
| 19:27 |
diana_coman |
what was that digging for/in/about? |
| 19:28 |
jfw |
footnotes i-iv mainly |
| 19:30 |
diana_coman |
ah, do you mean it was time consuming finding the exact references there? (ie you knew what you wanted /that they existed but just had to spend time to find them?) |
| 19:31 |
jfw |
yes, though I didn't know exactly what I was looking for |
| 19:31 |
jfw |
had vague recollections. |
| 19:34 |
diana_coman |
were the recollections enough to write the text though? ie could have written it first and then time the reference-digging separately; and yes, it's an ever growing pain to find refs around here though I expect in your cases here you had it even harder as it wasn't all that fresh in memory, hm. |
| 19:36 |
jfw |
I didn't remember the year or the context so couldn't have written that second sentence at least |
| 19:37 |
jfw |
I could have left it a 'todo' and then timed the rest separately |
| 19:38 |
jfw |
Which would have given me the choice of whether to then do it on this pass |
| 19:41 |
diana_coman |
jfw: yes; other than that, the added trouble you are having there is the silence-gap that you are effectively trying to bridge while writing but inevitably retro-actively and so you get both the split and the resulting tension between "I'm talking of my work that I did alone" vs "but I *was* reading the logs and informed by it" |
| 19:43 |
jfw |
I felt such tension indeed. |
| 19:44 |
jfw |
That and the lack of freshness of refs would be among the debts of not writing mentioned in yesterday's |
| 19:45 |
diana_coman |
eh, the debt there has also the lack of your own writings to rely on otherwise; but more to the point, why not simply write it as what it was aka "I worked on this on my own (but reading the logs/this/that)"? |
| 19:47 |
diana_coman |
you don't *have to* write it as if it was already part of the forum or anything; you are bringing it forwards now and people want to see it, yes, but the history is what it is, what. |
| 19:47 |
jfw |
gah sorry, phone call distraction. |
| 19:47 |
diana_coman |
k. |
| 19:58 |
jfw |
back. |
| 19:59 |
jfw |
Re debt also meaning lack of ready context - yep. |
| 20:00 |
jfw |
hm, I wanted to include the context from the forum since it was to some degree informing my actions, though I was not a part of it |
| 20:00 |
diana_coman |
jfw: yes, include it but precisely as what it was - a reference only. |
| 20:01 |
diana_coman |
ie focus on your actions ie tell it from your perspective since that's how it was developed anyway + simply add footnotes/references when/where you used the logs/blogs/whatevers since that's how they played in anyway, isn't it? |
| 20:02 |
jfw |
as in stating that more explicitly? yeah I guess that's what you said. |
| 20:03 |
diana_coman |
as in keeping to the one perspective that matches anyway; for one thing it helps by reducing (or getting rid of) that tension anyway. |
| 20:04 |
jfw |
the freshness problem would come up again in that I'm not certain when/where/how I read what things; I have some notes and chat but that'd be a dig as well |
| 20:04 |
jfw |
but I think I get it as far as keeping to the one perspective. |
| 20:04 |
diana_coman |
heh, you are there your own historian so you get the double pleasure of cursing those imbecilles who didn't document properly + being cursed :D |
| 20:05 |
jfw |
aha. |
| 20:06 |
diana_coman |
alternatively, you can of course just... admit and live with that, as "not worth recovering" or something, I suppose; your call, either way. |
| 20:09 |
jfw |
I'm rather prefering to recover what I reasonably can, as I go, but yes. |
| 20:10 |
diana_coman |
well then, if it helps, I'd rather read the recovered history than no history too, certainly. |
| 20:12 |
jfw |
thanks. |
| 20:17 |
diana_coman |
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-03#1011822 - ahem, did you do the re-read properly before this stage that was supposed to be just final review? |
| 20:17 |
ossabot |
Logged on 2019-12-03 10:36:59 whaack: diana_coman: mhm I thought 3h was generous because I thought my article was already completed - but on reread I saw it needed major restructuring. I will apply the mp-wp fix within the next two days, for now I increased the number of comments/posts (btw dorion_road that's just a setting on the dashboard under appearances->widgets) |
| 20:22 |
whaack |
diana_coman: Yes on Sunday I finished the rough draft, and then without having a time gap I reread and revised it. Then the next day I went for the final review. For this final review I had planned to make only word choice revisions / small edits. But I believed that the article needed a structural revision. So I did some major edits, and then I took a break and did another final revision. |
| 20:24 |
diana_coman |
whaack: for starters, it needs a time gap because otherwise you won't see as much as you could after a break. |
| 20:25 |
diana_coman |
for the other, if you end up with major revision, then yes, it will need another pass, it's a sort of back-to-step-2 indeed. |
| 20:26 |
diana_coman |
basically your "final review" was more like first revision really. |
| 20:29 |
whaack |
diana_coman: Yes I knew that it needed another "take break then revise" yesterday since I started with a major revision and not just some edits. My rough draft on Saturday was a completion of the steps up to '...obvious mistakes, mispellings, etc' http://ztkfg.com/2019/10/v-study-part-1-vpatches-and-vdiff/comment-page-1/#comment-47 (point 2) . |
| 20:30 |
diana_coman |
all right. |
| 20:35 |
whaack |
diana_coman: For now it may be best to assume I need to do two break + revisions as I build up my writing muscles. This was also not my first rough draft I first tossed out some completely different articles as well. |
| 20:36 |
whaack |
s/some completely different articles/a draft of a different article <--- sorry there was only one and it was not complete. |
| 20:38 |
diana_coman |
whaack: plan it like that then, with 2 passes and see how it goes, sure. |
| 20:47 |
whaack |
diana_coman: ^ Updated my plan for the week to take this into account for my next article. |
| 20:48 |
diana_coman |
good. |
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| 21:16 |
dorion_road |
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-12-03#1011821 << thanks, I made articles 10 and comments 15. |
| 21:16 |
ossabot |
Logged on 2019-12-03 05:44:48 diana_coman: whaack dorion_road you might want to increase the number of comments and posts shown in the sidebar, as 5 is rather little when there's quite the discussion going on; it's an easy change too. |
| 21:16 |
diana_coman |
works. |
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~ 32 minutes ~ |
| 21:49 |
dorion_road |
diana_coman thanks for the nudge and also the trackback fix. |
| 21:50 |
dorion_road |
I'd appreciate an !!up in #t |